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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. I am back from France and

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Speaker 1: very happy to be here with all of you. Still

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent on the voice. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: Got a little sick when I was abroad. No shot there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this Miami situation, Clay, my immune

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Speaker 1: system is not what it used to be. If I

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Speaker 1: don't have perfect weather and the beach nearby that.

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Speaker 2: All the time, anytime you leave and go anywhere. Now

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Speaker 2: that you're in perfect weather all the time around a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a subtle shock. You got to get

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Speaker 2: back to the New York City, got it back to

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Speaker 2: eaton and you know, rat infested pizza parlors in New

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Speaker 2: York City, to get the immune system back up and running.

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Speaker 1: You know, communism one of the things you wouldn't expect.

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Speaker 1: Maybe good for the immune system. Speaking of New York,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of stories. Obviously, the Iran situation

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Speaker 1: will dive into I haven't had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to about it yet. I'm gone just about a week.

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Speaker 1: And you know, sure enough, Clay almost gets us into

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Speaker 1: World War three? Who knew, Clay? What are you doing buddy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought you might throw a party. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think you might start a global conflict. But we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get into with Iran and the

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Speaker 1: strikes there over the weekend. As you know, President Trump

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Speaker 1: ordered the bunker busters to be used and substantial damage

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Speaker 1: done to the three main nuclear facilities in Iran. In Iran,

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Speaker 1: We've got also some live updates on that one coming

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Speaker 1: from the news wires here. In just a moment I

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Speaker 1: mentioned New York City though. This guy's Zoran Mamadani, who

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Speaker 1: is really a shocking socialist, I mean, is a straight

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Speaker 1: out of He's actually even crazier I think than Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders in some ways. He is surging ahead in the

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Speaker 1: Democrat primary polling in my old hometown of New York,

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Speaker 1: which is just going to be disastrous if he ends

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Speaker 1: up as much as I I don't know. I despise

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Speaker 1: Cuoma because of what he did during COVID, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think he is a complete lunatic. I think this

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Speaker 1: guy is a total lunatic politically speaking. He's out of

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Speaker 1: his mind Mamdani. So we'll get into that. We've also

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Speaker 1: got gosh, so much as is generally the case on

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Speaker 1: a Monday, the President weighing in on what will happen

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Speaker 1: if anybody decides to mess with us. The Iran strikes

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Speaker 1: obviously occurred over the weekend the US involved. Last I remember,

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Speaker 1: Clay and I were in the Oval Office a few

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Speaker 1: hours later these strikes on Ironica by the Israeli Air Force.

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Speaker 1: That was last not this Thursday, the Thursday before, right

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Speaker 1: two weeks into this conflict, and over this weekend, President

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Speaker 1: Trump ordered the deployment of our two point four billion

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Speaker 1: dollars apiece, when you add the full scope of the program,

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Speaker 1: in B two bombers, also Tomahawk missiles fired from our

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Speaker 1: nuclear subs. So two of the three parts of the

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Speaker 1: nuclear triad involved in the strikes are nuclear triad involved

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Speaker 1: in the strikes on these reactors and these research facilities

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Speaker 1: that the Iranians had been operating and refused to negotiate

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Speaker 1: their way out of this story right now. And look

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Speaker 1: my assessment, some of you were asking, and it was

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Speaker 1: really because I was overseas and I was six hours ahead,

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Speaker 1: I was paying attention to world events while also representing

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Speaker 1: US abroad for our wonderful advertisers or possible advertisers. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of what you've shared on

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Speaker 1: the strikes I would agree with in terms of its

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Speaker 1: incredible military precision. Tactically, both the Israeli and American components

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Speaker 1: of this have been remarkable, and the Iranian response has

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Speaker 1: been far more inept and weak than I would have

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Speaker 1: even anticipated. We could have witnessed what I would call

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Speaker 1: the greatest aerial strike success, certainly in this century and

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Speaker 1: perhaps even going back a century. Now we are waiting

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Speaker 1: to see what comes of this, Clay. We've got the

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Speaker 1: imminent threat. This is the big headline across Fox News

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Speaker 1: and other sites right now. This look, this is the concern.

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Speaker 1: Right The concern is what is the the blowback? What

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Speaker 1: are the consequences of these strikes? We worry about terrorist cells.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the highest likelihood threat, but also the

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Speaker 1: some lunatic somewhere, you know, God forbid, but he shoots

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Speaker 1: the trajectory of the war of the Middle East. It's

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Speaker 1: just a spie act of a terrorist or spiteful act

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Speaker 1: of a terrorist. But you have something here where you

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Speaker 1: regime firing at bases in our US base and Cutter,

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Speaker 1: so striking obviously Katari soil and going after or rather

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Speaker 1: And I think that this is the concern a lot

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Speaker 1: a remarkable success. What happens next is the big question.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think welcome back and glad to have you

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Speaker 2: back stateside. And I think that Trump had to make

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Speaker 2: the most consequential decision of his presidency so far, and

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Speaker 2: I think he made the right one. And so Saturday

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Speaker 2: evening we attacked the B two bomber pilots, all of

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Speaker 2: the individuals who fired the shots from our submarines. It's

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Speaker 2: an incredible statement for American no how and I think

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Speaker 2: you also have to extend it. We have talked a

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Speaker 2: lot about this. There were no leaks. Trump one point

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Speaker 2: zero was a sieve. Everything immediately got out Trump two

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Speaker 2: point zero, Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Jade Vance, obviously Trump himself,

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Speaker 2: everybody in the National Security team, Tulca Gabbard. They delivered

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Speaker 2: a magisterial plan and performance in terms of the attacks.

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Speaker 3: Now you went through this once before.

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Speaker 2: To me, the question that we are monitoring, as we

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Speaker 2: are speaking to all of you, is how will Iran respond?

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Speaker 2: And there seems to be an expectation that they will

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East, which is not dissimilar to what happened.

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Speaker 2: And you could probably speak to this very well. After

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Speaker 2: Trump killed Cassim Solimani and so many people out there said, oh, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you remember World War III was trending. Everybody lost their minds.

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Speaker 2: There were injuries to American troops, thankfully no deaths, and

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Speaker 2: then it was like, okay, Iran got to have their

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Speaker 2: public reprisal against the Great Satan, but it was not

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Speaker 2: a substantial response in terms of its devastating impact by

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Speaker 3: And we moved on.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what the decision is going to be of

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Speaker 2: the Ayah tolas from a face saving perspective, what will

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Speaker 2: that lingers. I think you would sign off with me

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Speaker 2: on Trump's decision to wipe out much of the nuclear

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Speaker 2: capabilities of Iran sent an important message. It was necessary

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Speaker 2: since Iran seemed to have no interest in actually negotiating.

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Speaker 2: We kind of forecast that this would be likely the outcome.

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Speaker 2: I think the vast majority of the Trump supporters, voters,

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Speaker 2: all of you out there listening, agree, Some disagree, and

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Speaker 2: that's okay. It's healthy to disagree. We should have big

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Speaker 2: the question is what's next.

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Speaker 1: Thing that it's not a finished situation by any means,

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Speaker 1: and so for anyone to come to a conclusion on this, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have to remember everyone I worked in

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Speaker 1: that Office of Iraq Analysis, it was called actually OIA,

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Speaker 1: It's very different. I understand this, and one of the

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Speaker 1: you know, is this is this World War two and

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Speaker 1: a way to fit this in. This is a no surprise,

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Speaker 1: exactly what we are seeing here. Meaning you can draw

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Speaker 1: some lessons from others, but nothing else. Is a roadmap

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Speaker 1: different from everything else that we have seen. Can the

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Speaker 1: government lie to you? Yes? Absolutely? Is mission creeper real thing? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Should there be concerns about you know, those as well

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Speaker 1: as other aspects of this, Yes there should. However, so far,

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Speaker 1: what we've seen is the Irani nuclear program brought to

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Speaker 1: the response from the Iranians has been almost nothing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's just call up what it is. The Iranians have been,

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Speaker 1: your entire military leadership get wiped out in the first

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Speaker 1: hour of the war. Okay, that's the truth. There's no

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Speaker 1: playing possible, there's no oh wait, we we're lulling them

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about a largely defanged Iranian military. Certainly

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Speaker 1: know ruin a much larger armory. We've we've learned that lesson,

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Speaker 1: clearly that's not true. The notion that the Iranian that

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Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people saying that. Unfortunately, that's

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Speaker 1: because there's no interest in those countries in doing that.

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Speaker 1: Why would they do that? Doesn't make any sense. But

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Speaker 1: I think Trump made the right call. I think the

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Speaker 1: israelis so far were far more successful than most people

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Speaker 1: happens next. Now we see what the next phase is.

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Speaker 1: So we'll take calls on this and dive into it

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Speaker 1: more here and Clay's watching closely on the monitors as

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Speaker 2: I think what you hit as we go to break here,

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Speaker 2: Buck is super significant. Iran is isolated, and pay attention

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Speaker 2: to what people do, not always what they say. There's

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Speaker 1: And anybody who was in Afghanistan then, and remember I

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Speaker 1: So I would take the stuff to the ambassador, I

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Speaker 1: would take the stuff to the four star general, and

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Speaker 1: I mean I mean hand carry like you know, hard

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Speaker 1: copy stuff, and I just remember any of these and

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Speaker 1: I had to read the assessments. I had to be

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Speaker 1: familiar with what was going on. If you knew what

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Speaker 1: was going on in I Rock, I mean in Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: in twenty ten, you knew that the policy was failing

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Speaker 1: and had no chance of success. But what happens is

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Speaker 1: that at all everything gets cleaned up when you get

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Speaker 1: to the I wasn't in the military, but the guys

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Speaker 1: would say, when it gets to like the brigade or sorry,

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Speaker 1: it gets to the division level, and then the command level,

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Speaker 1: all the assessments from brigade and battalion and company, all

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Speaker 1: this stuff that the guys who are actually seeing it

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Speaker 1: gets cleaned up to, Yeah, we're doing great, it's working

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Speaker 1: really well, because the four star doesn't want to tell

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Speaker 1: the president your ideas suck and this is never going

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Speaker 1: to work, or you know, our ideas suck and this

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Speaker 1: is never gonna work. So, yeah, that is a lesson

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Speaker 1: that I think was learned very painfully by us in

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Speaker 1: both The Rock and Afghanistan. And so that's something that

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Speaker 1: we have to keep in mind here. But I think

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Speaker 1: that right now we're not there, not everything is, you know,

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Speaker 1: just like not everything is Vietnam, that everything is World

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Speaker 1: War two. This is its own situation and so far,

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Speaker 1: what do you do? You have an update on that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just got breaking news reports of explosions in

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Speaker 2: Qatar and this is from Baraka Revd I believe who's

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Speaker 2: a reporter at Axios.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt.

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Speaker 2: An Israeli official says Iran has launched six missiles towards

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Speaker 2: US bases in Qatar. So as we were telling you

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Speaker 2: that it was likely to happen.

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Speaker 3: We will keep you.

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Speaker 2: Updated on the absolute latest there. But that report just

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Speaker 2: coming down in the last two minutes or so.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so to your question though, so there's the regime

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Speaker 1: change conversation that factors in now to everything that comes

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Speaker 1: from this, you know, the aftermath of the US strikes

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Speaker 1: and the nuclear facilities. How do we avoid getting drawn

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Speaker 1: into that? I think there's pretty clear and I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: say universal or clear agreement, but there's pretty widespread agreement

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Speaker 1: among maga. I'm not even Democrats just hate Trump and

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Speaker 1: they hate every I can't even you know what do

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Speaker 1: they They just need to figure out why they exist

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Speaker 1: other than hating Trump. And that's their own problem in

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Speaker 1: terms of Republicans, in terms of the Trump Trump voters

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Speaker 1: out there, there's a I think, a broad rejection of

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Speaker 1: any intervention that would require US boots on the ground

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. But that's that's one thing that

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Speaker 1: we have now though we look at the escalator or

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Speaker 1: the escalation and back and forth that would happen after

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Speaker 1: something like this clay. If Iran hits military bases that

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Speaker 1: is a proportion response in some way to what we did.

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Speaker 1: That would not It doesn't mean that we're gonna like

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Speaker 1: allow them to do it. It doesn't mean that we

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily exact a price for them doing it, but

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't result and I think in escalation where we go, okay,

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Speaker 1: now we're really gonna make things more painful for Iran,

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Speaker 1: substantially more so than we already have, and then the

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Speaker 1: Israelis already had if they do something horrific, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it, but something al

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Speaker 1: Qaeda style, which is really the concern here. The concern

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Speaker 1: is that the Iranian regime a IRGC who's every bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the bombing of the well that

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Speaker 1: was a military target, but you look at the bombing

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Speaker 1: Marine barracks. They've been involved in mass casualty terrorism in

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Speaker 1: the past. If they do that against the civilian target,

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Speaker 1: then I think the question turns to or the likelihood

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Speaker 1: is that the Trump administration goes and takes out the

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Speaker 1: remnants of senior Iranian leadership. That's I think Trump has

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Speaker 1: intimated that essentially. Okay, if you order, if the iatola

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Speaker 1: orders mass casualties murder anywhere in the world, you know,

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Speaker 1: against Americans, israelis your net like, then you are mulla omar.

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Speaker 1: We've bin laden in the Taliban, then we're in a

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Speaker 1: whole different world of how we're going to handle this.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I think remains to be seen. If

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Speaker 1: they just strike our military bases, I don't think not

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Speaker 1: that that's we told them not to do that. We

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Speaker 1: may hit their bases more in retaliation and say are

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Speaker 1: you done yet? Are you done yet? But if they

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Speaker 1: do something against civilians, then I think that you might

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Speaker 1: just decide, we might decide to decapitate what's left of

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Speaker 1: the regime. That's what I think could happen.

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Speaker 2: Trump is in the situation room, by the way, which

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Speaker 2: suggests we'll give you the latest on this again, reports

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Speaker 2: that six different missiles fired by Iran at Qatar and

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Speaker 2: our military base presumably there.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: This is we will give you the latest. There's video

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Speaker 2: out there showing those missiles coming in. It's night in

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Speaker 2: the in the Middle East right now, at least in Qatar,

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Speaker 2: and we'll give you the absolute latest on that. But

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Speaker 2: the reason why it suggests that we were very well

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Speaker 2: aware that this was coming is because the President was

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Speaker 2: already in the situation room, and I'm sure they are

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Speaker 2: monitoring in real time what exactly happens there.

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Speaker 3: So we will give you the absolute latest. We come back.

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Speaker 2: But Israeli citizens certainly appreciate solidarity our nation has shown

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Speaker 2: them over the past six hundred and thirty days since

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Speaker 2: the October seventh Hamas Terra attacks. Bill Ward's on display

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Speaker 2: today in Israel with the words thank you, mister President,

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Speaker 2: along with the picture of President Trump. Just twelve hours

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Speaker 2: after our nation's military targeted strikes in Iran. Iran has

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Speaker 2: fired back at Israel. This has been going on for

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Speaker 2: several days now, over a week, and the Fellowship is

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Speaker 2: doing everything they can to make room and make hay

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Speaker 2: for as many people as they possibly can, to make

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Speaker 2: sure that emergency rooms and shelters are fully stocked with

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Speaker 2: critical life saving supplies. That's why the Fellowship needs your

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Speaker 2: most generous gifts today to help make their work possible

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Speaker 2: in this incredible time of need in Israel. Now's your

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Speaker 4: Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.

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Speaker 4: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 4: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Iran has responded so far, it appears that they telegraphed

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Speaker 2: their actions. They are seeking to dial back after we

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Speaker 2: kicked their ass on Saturday night. Either they don't have

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Speaker 2: the ability to actually do anything to us, which is

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Speaker 2: probably true, and or they are afraid of what we

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Speaker 2: might do in response to them and Buck I loved

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night, when Trump came out about ten pm Eastern, Marco, Rubio,

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Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth, and jd Vance all arrayed behind him, spoke

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Speaker 2: top spokespeople Rubio Vance and Heg seth All spoke Sunday publicly,

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Speaker 2: and I thought did phenomenally well. But this, sorry, this

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio versus Margaret Brennan on I think it's faced

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Speaker 2: the Nation or CBS News or wherever the heck she works.

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Speaker 2: Every time that it occurs, it just is an absolutely

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Speaker 2: epic beat down. And let's just play a couple of

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Speaker 2: a couple of these cuts. This is Rubio against Margaret

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Speaker 2: Brennan about cut twelve. Here, just to give you a

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Speaker 2: sense of the intellectual evisceration that took place on CBS

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning.

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Speaker 3: This is what it sounded like.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if the order was given. They have

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Speaker 6: everything they need to build nuclear weapons. Why would you

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Speaker 6: Why would you bury things in a mountain three hundred

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Speaker 6: feet under the ground, Why would you bury six Why

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Speaker 6: do they have sixty percent in rich uranium? You don't

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Speaker 6: need sixty percent in rich urrea. The only countries in

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Speaker 6: the world that have uranium at sixty percent are countries

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Speaker 6: that have nuclear weapons, because it can quickly make it

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Speaker 6: ninety They have all the elements they have. Why are

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Speaker 6: they why do they have a space program? Is Aran

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Speaker 6: going to go to the moon. No, they're trying to

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Speaker 6: build an ICBM.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 3: But that's a question.

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Speaker 8: That's a question, that's a question of intent. And you

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Speaker 8: know in the intelligence assessment that it was that Iran

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Speaker 8: wanted to be a threshold. See you use those I'm

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Speaker 8: talking about what the intelligence March assessment. And that's why

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Speaker 8: I was asking you if you know something more from it.

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Speaker 6: That's also an inaccurate representation of it. That's inaccurate representation

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Speaker 6: of it. That's not how intelligence is read. That's not

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Speaker 6: how intelligence is used. Here's what the whole world knows.

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Speaker 6: Forget about intelligence, but the IAEA knows they are enriching

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Speaker 6: uranium well beyond anything you need for a for a

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Speaker 6: for a civil nuclear program.

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Speaker 2: Uh okay, that's point one you want to play. Let's

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Speaker 2: play point two here, because I do think it goes

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Speaker 2: into the essence of the attacks that are being levied

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Speaker 2: here by left wing media, which it should be mentioned

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Speaker 2: many people out there said, oh my goodness, if we

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Speaker 2: do this, thousands of American troops are going to die.

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Speaker 3: It's early, but we eviscerated.

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Speaker 2: It appears the Iranian nuclear opportunity going forward, and Iran

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Speaker 2: basically rolled over and played dead. To your point, Buck,

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Speaker 2: they are effectively, after forty six years of Ayatola rule,

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Speaker 2: a third third world country that's being frankly passed rapidly

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Speaker 2: in their own region by the Saudi Arabia, the uae Qatar.

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Speaker 2: Countries that they used to look down on for generations

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Speaker 2: and way more success as a country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Iran is an ancient and proud civilization that for

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Speaker 1: the last fifty years has in brought low by moron

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Speaker 1: theocrats who make everything worse for everybody in the country.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happened. You know. It's a bit like you

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Speaker 1: talked to Cuban Americans down here in South Florida about Cuba,

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Speaker 1: a beautiful island with great people who have been emmiserated

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Speaker 1: and enslaved by communist imbeciles since the Castro regime took power. Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is unfortunately what it can happen in

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Speaker 1: some of these places. But here we've got Marco Rubio

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Speaker 1: cut two. You want to play this one, right, he

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Speaker 1: continues on dealing with Margaret bretton play it.

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Speaker 6: Why would you enrich uranium at sixty percent. If you

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Speaker 6: don't intend to one day use it to take it

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Speaker 6: to ninety and build a weapon. Why are you developing ICBMs.

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Speaker 6: Why do you have eight thousand short range missiles in

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Speaker 6: two to three thousand long mid range missiles that you

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Speaker 6: continue to develop. Why do you do all these things

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Speaker 6: and have everything they need for a nuclear weapon. They

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Speaker 6: have the delivery mechanisms, they have the enrichment capability, they

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Speaker 6: have the highly enriched uranium that is stored. That's all

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Speaker 6: we need to see right hand. The regime that's already

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Speaker 6: in all than terrorism and proxies and all kinds of

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Speaker 6: things are on. They are the source of all.

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Speaker 8: Yes, and no one's disputing, no one's disputing that I'm

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Speaker 8: not doing that here. And they were censured at the

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Speaker 8: IAEA for that enrichment and for violating their non proliferation agreements.

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Speaker 8: I was simply asking if we had intelligence that there

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Speaker 8: was an order to weaponize, because you said weaponization ambitions.

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Speaker 6: An intelligence that they need to build a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 6: and that's more than enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, here's a question for you, Buck.

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Speaker 2: If Iran has no interest in having nuclear weapons, why

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Speaker 2: do they need to enrich uranium and be pursuing nuclear

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Speaker 2: energy in any way. They sit on one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest oil fields in the world. They have more energy

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Speaker 2: access than almost any country, well anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're asking, you're asking the basic and obvious

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Speaker 1: questions that people that oppose this have to just refusee

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Speaker 1: that you can't address, can't deal with that.

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Speaker 2: Why, that's my question, Like what would be the reason

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Speaker 2: they would be burying uranium enrichment minds basically, for lack

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Speaker 2: of a better way of characterizing it, beneath mountains while

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Speaker 2: being on top of oil fields. If they weren't trying

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Speaker 2: to create nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: It's even worse than that. Like if they were willing

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Speaker 1: to play ball with the international community. Remember the their

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Speaker 1: signatories to the Non Nuclear Proliferation Treaty, which they just

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Speaker 1: violate this but put that aside. You know, treaties, right,

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Speaker 1: you know this is like Pompey Magnus of ancient Rome.

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Speaker 1: Don't quote laws to men with swords like okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: we're in a power dynamics based world, not a treaty

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Speaker 1: and obligations based world. Okay. If they were willing to

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Speaker 1: work with the international community such as it is, if

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Speaker 1: they were willing to play ball with America, Europe, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: and stop doing the things that they're doing that are

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Speaker 1: destabilizing and that make the region so miserable quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: and so much violence. I mean, the French would build

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Speaker 1: their reactors for them, and people would help them if

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Speaker 1: the regime was willing to have real inspections, playball and

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Speaker 1: do what has been asked here for a long time,

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Speaker 1: civilian nuclear power, that there are ways that that could

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Speaker 1: be achieved and done. Of course, you asked the question,

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Speaker 1: which is maybe even more important, well, why would they

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Speaker 1: even want that considering how much oil they have, which

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Speaker 1: is just easy, you know, easier for them, And the

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Speaker 1: answer is that they want to have a nuclear weapons capability.

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Speaker 1: Do you see this? If you are a regime of

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Speaker 1: bad actors for the last fifty years or so, if

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Speaker 1: you have nukes, you don't have to worry really about

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Speaker 1: external overthrow. That's that's the lesson that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people take from this, and that's which is why North

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Speaker 1: Korea gets to North Korea do it right. North Korea

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Speaker 1: is a perfect example. You can be a religious zelot

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Speaker 1: run theocracy that has held it, but well, it's basically

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Speaker 1: what North Korea. Is they just worship the Kim dynasty

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Speaker 1: instead of you know, Islam. But it actually, it really

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Speaker 1: is kind of a theocracy, and in a sense it's

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Speaker 1: a netcrocracy because the founder, Kim Il sung, still kind

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Speaker 1: of worshiped as the head of the Communist Party.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, again from a international affairs response,

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Speaker 2: I have actually seen some of the members of the

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Speaker 2: Clinton administration saying publicly, now we blew it with North Korea.

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Speaker 2: In retrospect, we should have had attacks on their nuclear capabilities.

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton considered it in nineteen ninety four. I even

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Speaker 2: saw Rama Manuel come out and say it. And I

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Speaker 2: think most people out there would say, hey, it'd be

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Speaker 2: better if this crazy North Korean dictatorship didn't have nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 2: But because they have them, they basically have power and

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Speaker 2: perpetuity because the risk of attacking them is nuclear war.

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Speaker 2: And that is the lesson that I think Iran has

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Speaker 2: taken now by attacking this regime, we are trying to

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Speaker 2: prevent another North Korea, but we're also sending the message

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Speaker 2: to other countries that may make the rational choice, hey,

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Speaker 2: we need to have nuclear weapons to their consequences for

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Speaker 2: pursuing these and also buck. This is why I think

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Speaker 2: the response from China and from Russia has been muted

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Speaker 2: because deep down they don't want Iran to have nuclear

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Speaker 2: weapons either.

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course, they can't trust Iran. These countries do

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Speaker 1: not align countries or whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 1: that will work together. These are places, you know, Putin's

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Speaker 1: right hand man. Can't trust Vladimir Putin. You think the Iranians,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these people will only These are countries that

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Speaker 1: only will work together insofar as it is caught, zero

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Speaker 1: cost to them and in their immediate interests, no interest,

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Speaker 1: as long as the oil flows. These countries don't give

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Speaker 1: a They don't care who's in charge in Iran. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Chinese get a lot of oil from Iran because

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Speaker 1: of the sanctions, and you know they want that oil

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Speaker 1: to keep flowing. And you know the Russians. I know

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Speaker 1: this seem strange people, but the Russians actually buy a

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Speaker 1: lot of Iranian oil too, even though the Russians have

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Speaker 1: a lot of oil our own, right, because it has

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Speaker 1: to do with refining and the global markets. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: there's no The World War II thing never made any

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Speaker 1: sense because there's no countries that are going to come

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Speaker 1: to the aid of Iran that want to lose their

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Speaker 1: own soldiers in some conflict with Israel and or with

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Speaker 1: the United States. So that's not going to happen. The

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Speaker 1: thing for me, that's the biggest open question right now

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Speaker 1: is what do we want if we're going to take

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Speaker 1: this forward beyond what we are. It is possible, folks,

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Speaker 1: we wake up tomorrow and Iran has managed to do

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Speaker 1: something horrible and kill a lot of people somewhere, and

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Speaker 1: that will change, That will change the dynamics in this

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Speaker 1: conflict overnight. I mean, that is possible. So far, we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen that in what we've seen from Iran has

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Speaker 1: been pretty contained and pretty predictable. Right, So what do

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Speaker 1: we want? Meaning what do we truly the American people

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Speaker 1: want now? The first thing is we want this to

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Speaker 1: not be our problem and for us not to be involved.

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Speaker 1: I get that. That's like first principle, that's numeral un

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Speaker 1: here is okay, we don't want to make this our problem.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of if we can foresee a future

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Speaker 1: where we don't have to, wouldn't it be nice? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how often do we sit around talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the future of Kazakhstan, which by the way, has a

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Speaker 1: lot of natural resources. People think of Borot. It's actually

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Speaker 1: a very large country, a lot of natural resources. I

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Speaker 1: think a tremendous amount of not the potassium is what

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Speaker 1: Borat always says. I think it has a lot of

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Speaker 1: natural gas. Someone checked me on that. But my point

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Speaker 1: is we don't care about that. You know, Kazakhstan does

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Speaker 1: its thing. Yeah, they don't have free speech, and but whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's not our problem. We don't have to worry about this.

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Speaker 1: We really want Iran to be in that category. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just not our problem. And so if not our

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Speaker 1: problem is what we want from Iran? What does that

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Speaker 1: look like? How do we get there? And is that

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Speaker 1: the Iranian regime just kind of sputtering along as it

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Speaker 1: is defanged, as I've said, or do we really want

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Speaker 1: to see what happens if people start dragging the you know,

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Speaker 1: the IRGC and the besiege which is there. Really they're

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Speaker 1: brown shirts, and I mean they're street militia if you will,

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Speaker 1: of the regime. If we start, if they start getting

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Speaker 1: dragged out in the streets and beaten by you know,

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Speaker 1: the civilians with pitchforks and torches, so to speak, is

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Speaker 1: that what we want, you know, I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is where we get into the I don't know again,

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Speaker 1: not us doing it. I'm just saying, what do we

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Speaker 1: really want in Iran?

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Speaker 2: I think that's the question at this point going forward,

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Speaker 2: and we could spend some time on it in this

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Speaker 2: third hour because to me, the question that and by

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Speaker 2: the way, Elon Musk.

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Speaker 3: Turn on Starlink.

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Speaker 2: Let the Iranians actually see what's going on in the

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Speaker 2: rest of the world, because Buck, what they're going to

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Speaker 2: say internally is we responded in cut and force and

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Speaker 2: wiped out the United States forces in the Middle East. Right,

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Speaker 2: this is what Iranian state television is gonna say. But

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Speaker 2: bigger picture, what a lot of these young people in

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Speaker 2: Iran are saying. When I say young, I mean people

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Speaker 2: thirty five and younger. Either you're a you know, having kids,

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Speaker 2: or you are.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are now in life, Clay, We're like,

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Speaker 1: we're in all these whippers snow pres in their thirties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all these young guys. But they are looking around now.

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Speaker 2: At some point embarrassment and anger starts to set in

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Speaker 2: and Iran because you see people in Saudi Arabia having

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Speaker 2: a better life than you Bahrain Qatars having the freakin

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Speaker 2: World Cup. Saudi Arabia is gonna have the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: They love soccer. Why is Iran getting left behind? It's

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Speaker 2: one thing if the US and Israel are better off, okay,

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Speaker 2: But when your fellow Arab and Muslim countries are leaving

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Speaker 2: you behind and you to your point, Buck used to

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Speaker 2: be a proud member of the Persian Empire. Go study

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Speaker 2: world history. They ancient history. They were ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 2: They were long ahead of much of even Europe back

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Speaker 2: in the day. And now they're falling behind quality of life.

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Speaker 2: They can't even keep the power on so they can

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Speaker 2: take elevators in buildings. These are real questions that I

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Speaker 2: think are going to start getting asked by the Iranian people.

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Speaker 3: And where does it lead? That's the question.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're taking

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Speaker 1: a look at the now aftermath of the Iranian retaliatory

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Speaker 1: missile strikes on a US base and Cutter and so

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Speaker 1: far it was pretty much a non event. I mean

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Speaker 1: so far as no casualties, no major destruction in the

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Speaker 1: missiles were intercepted and the Iranians it is now reported

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Speaker 1: coordinated like Toll of America. We're firing, So that really

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Speaker 1: is done, clay Ass, I mean that's all true. It

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Speaker 1: is like a stage managed response from the Mullahs, and

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Speaker 1: so we should continue to keep an eye on this,

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Speaker 1: but it looks pretty pretty contained for now. I want

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Speaker 1: to take some of your commentary thoughts into consideration here.

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Speaker 1: The lines are open eight hundred and two eighty two

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Speaker 1: two eight eight two we have I thought this is

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Speaker 1: funny v IP email from Brian. Liberals are against anyone

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Speaker 1: having nuclear power anywhere except for Iran. It is funny.

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Speaker 1: Very Iranian nuclear ambitions are sacred. Anybody else nuclear power

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Speaker 1: is scary, right, but Irani and nuclear stuff is sacred,

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Speaker 1: according to the Libs.

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Speaker 2: I saw this and I thought this was kind of

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Speaker 2: a checkmate on the argument against nuclear strikes, strikes to

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Speaker 2: prevent nuclear weapons on our behalf by Trump. They said, oh,

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Speaker 2: now we're really in danger. There's no telling what Iran's

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Speaker 2: going to do now. And my argument was, well, if

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Speaker 2: you think that Iran is a huge threat, now, weren't

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Speaker 2: they a way bigger threat with nuclear weapons? In other words,

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Speaker 2: I would rather than if they're going to attack us

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Speaker 2: have less effective weapons than more effective weapons. I thought

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Speaker 2: that was kind of they were checkmating themselves with their

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Speaker 2: own logic, and they would say, well, now they're more

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Speaker 2: likely to strike ius. I actually think we have insured

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Speaker 2: and we're now seeing this that they don't have the

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Speaker 2: ability to hit us with anything.

867
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Speaker 3: Is the essence of this. And I mentioned it earlier.

868
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Speaker 2: If we could go back in time and Bill Clinton

869
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four, I saw Rama manual say this

870
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: could have a do over. He would have tried to

871
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: wipe out North Korea. They said, Jimmy Carter got over there.

872
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: Miss missile program, not the country, the missile program.

873
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so yeah, yeah, we don't want to kill

874
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Speaker 2: in North Korea.

875
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Speaker 1: But yeah, well he's like, hey, we bomb them, and

876
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Speaker 1: we bomb them again, and we bomb them some more.

877
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, buddy, it's a lot of bombing. Uh.

878
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: North Korea nuclear weapons back in the nineties, if we

879
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: could have restricted their access to them, that would have

880
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: been a really good thing. And I think the lesson

881
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Speaker 2: that we learned from that is we cannot allow these

882
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: rogue dictator states to have access to nuclear weapons because

883
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: it's logical for them to want them, because it preserves

884
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Speaker 2: their power because once you have them, can Jong Noon

885
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: your point, basically has created a theocracy built around his

886
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: father and uh, and then you have to bow down

887
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: and worship him.

888
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Speaker 3: We don't.

889
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: It's not a good thing that they at some point

890
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: could have a guy just decide to bomb a nuclear

891
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: weapon there. But we don't have the ability to take

892
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: him out now and to take out their nuclear weapons.

893
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Speaker 2: We can't allow Iron to be the equivalent of North

894
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Speaker 2: Korea in the decades to come.

895
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Speaker 1: Let's do a talk back here from Brian in Worcester, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: This is talkback d d.

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Speaker 9: Hi Buck Brian from Wister, mass I just wanted to

898
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 9: get your take on you have these leftist journals out

899
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 9: there this weekend saying that, oh, Iran, because Trump telegraphed

900
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 9: it so soon, Iran actually moved most of their enriched

901
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 9: uranium out of those sites and they still all have it.

902
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't believe that, But I'm just wondering

903
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 9: what your analysis is on where they're getting that intel

904
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 9: quote unquote from and what you think a truthful of

905
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Speaker 9: it is excellence.

906
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't buy that. And here here's why the

907
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: Israelis have this whole place mic Up. Okay, this is

908
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: one thing that we know. If they know where to

909
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: put the tactical missile strike in an apartment building so

910
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: that it only kills the nuclear scientists, you are not

911
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: about to believe. I don't think anyone should believe that

912
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: they would allow the evacuation of the most sensitive material

913
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Speaker 1: from the sites that are going to be completely saturated

914
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Speaker 1: with intel, surveillance coverage, all of that, right, So I

915
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: do not buy. Yeah, did they try to get some

916
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: stuff out of there, I'm sure, but I do not

917
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Speaker 1: buy that they were able to salvage their nuclear program

918
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Speaker 1: with some last minute trucks, and that the Israelis who

919
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: are flying constant air strikes. Let that that's the key.

920
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: That's the key.

921
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: Just logically think through this. If you know that's a

922
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Speaker 2: nuclear site and suddenly you bring the nuclear site out

923
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Speaker 2: of the bunkers to put it onto trucks and Israel

924
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: has complete air superiority, you're actually making their job easier.

925
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Speaker 2: So the logic of that argument doesn't stand up to

926
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Speaker 2: your point, Buck, because Israel would just wipe out the

927
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Speaker 2: trucks filled with the nuclear armaments, and it would be

928
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: way easier to do that than have to go into

929
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: the side of a mountain like we had to do

930
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Speaker 2: with the bunker busting bombs.

931
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Speaker 1: Also, imagine that's your job. It's like you you have

932
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Speaker 1: to move the enriched uranium.

933
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Speaker 2: I had last week, Buck, I was saying, I don't

934
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Speaker 2: know whether Orran had pulled all their guys out, but

935
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Speaker 2: can you imagine going into the ford down the side

936
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Speaker 2: of the mountain for the last few weeks, when in

937
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: any moment you know that the US could decide to

938
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Speaker 2: just wipe you out. That's like the worst job in

939
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Speaker 2: the world. And I hope for those guys credit or safety.

940
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Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to get killed who doesn't have

941
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Speaker 2: to get killed. I hope Iran didn't have them still

942
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Speaker 2: going into the mountain just waiting for the bunker busting

943
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Speaker 2: bomb to come in and wipe them out. I mean,

944
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: that's a kind of a that's a tough that's a

945
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: tough gig.

946
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Speaker 1: Some some folks on the right are gonna, I think,

947
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: have to take a take a little bit of of

948
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: a moment to collect themselves, maybe even take a chill

949
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: pill and and calm down about some of this stuff.

950
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: I've seen some really bad analysis of this from some

951
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: You're like, well, why uh, you know, why don't I name?

952
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: It's not about naming individuals, and people can see what

953
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: others have said, and I know I'm not I'm not

954
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: about uh. And neither is Clay taking shots that are

955
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: undermining anybody on on the right. Certainly in the commentary sphere. Politicians,

956
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: we have to hold du accounts. So sometimes we're gonna

957
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: get a little salty about what a Republican center is

958
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: voting for whatever. But other people that are commenting, they

959
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: have their audiences and they have what they do. And

960
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: but that's all the way of saying. You know, Marjorie

961
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Taylor Green here saying that we are entering World War three,

962
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: in nuclear war, she she needs to calm down. That's

963
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: actually not that's actually not what we are doing right now.

964
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: Play thirty seven six.

965
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 7: Months in six months in seed, and here we are

966
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 7: turning back on the campaign promises, and we bombed Iran

967
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 7: on behalf of Israel. Yes it was on behalf of Israel.

968
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 7: We are entering a nuclear war, the World War three,

969
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 7: because the entire world is going to erupt. And you

970
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 7: want to know, the people that are cheering it on

971
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 7: right now, their tune is going to drastically change the

972
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 7: minute we start seeing flag. Drake Coffins on the Nightly

973
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 7: News on Fox News that brainwashes all the baby boomers,

974
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 7: and on CNN that brainwashes all the Democrat baby boomers.

975
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 8: And that is exactly how this is going.

976
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 7: To go down.

977
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: That is not how this is going to go down.

978
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, Look, we've left open. I said that

979
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: this thing could change overnight. There could be something that

980
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: happens and there's an issue and we have to handle it.

981
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: But what she's saying is that somehow Donald Trump would

982
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: have to be so inept, poor decision making, blacking and

983
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: strategic vision that as commander in chief, you would allow

984
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: us to get drawn into a situation where the entire

985
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: world at some level, right, I mean not every country,

986
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: but where many countries are at war or of this

987
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: or that's crazy town stuff. And I can say that

988
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: very confidently, and if I end up being wrong, well

989
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: who will care because it'll be the middle of World

990
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: War three. It's reckless to say this stuff. It's okay

991
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: to say we shouldn't strike aram what we already have.

992
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: So that's you know, I don't begrudge anybody there. I

993
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: don't agree with the strike out, don't you know, because

994
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: bad things are going to happen. But when you're claiming

995
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: that we're in the midst now, or rather we're entering

996
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: World War three and nuclear war, you're saying crazy stuff

997
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: that is scaring people and preventing sober assessment of what's

998
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: going on and adult conversation about what should happen now.

999
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: So I very much disagree with Congresswoman Taylor Green's assessment

1000
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: here to the point where I think she sounds like

1001
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: a jackass and it's not a good thing to be doing.

1002
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: I would just say, pretty straightforwardly, world War III requires

1003
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: that Iran have an ally. Can you name one country

1004
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: that has lined up behind Iran? This is where I

1005
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: think that there has not been enough pointing this out.

1006
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: The Middle Eastern countries want Israel to do this.

1007
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: Right, they may say again publicly, oh, Israel's like what

1008
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia wants Iran to not.

1009
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 3: Have nuclear weapons?

1010
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: The uae Qatar, all of them agree with what we

1011
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: did and what.

1012
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: Israel is doing.

1013
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: They're even China and Russia haven't said a word hardly

1014
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: in defendi.

1015
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: This is also like, think about this, do you think

1016
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: the Chinese give a crap about what happens to Iran.

1017
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: They do not. Okay, the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party

1018
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: doesn't care about what's happening to Chinese people for the

1019
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: most part. Okay, they definitely don't care about a few

1020
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: nuclear sites getting hit in Iran. Whatever their diplomats say,

1021
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: No one's even gonna remember tomorrow, and their diplomats are

1022
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: just hoping they don't get thrown into some dark selling

1023
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: portrait to death by Sujin Ping. So yeah, it's not

1024
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: this is not some There's no way. It's just crazy.

1025
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: If anything, China is looking at this and saying, oh,

1026
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: maybe we need to reconsider invading Taiwan.

1027
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: I know he's going to go Taiwan.

1028
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't know what would happen because

1029
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: we have the strategic ambiguity perspective as it pertains to

1030
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: what we would do if China tried to take Taiwan.

1031
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: But I definitely think that the Chinese noticed, Holy crap,

1032
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: the US flew all around the world, wrecked the nuclear

1033
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: capabilities of Iran, and the Iranians didn't even know we

1034
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: were in their airspace. Maybe the US has got military

1035
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: capabilities that would be a threat, and maybe they would

1036
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: stand up for Taiwan.

1037
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: Well maybe all so, just bring it back to Trump

1038
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: and the World War three and all these conversations that

1039
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: are going on right now. By the way, I think

1040
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: very few people are actually making the case. There's some

1041
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: big voices that are saying it, but we're not. We're

1042
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: not in the World War three or you know, a

1043
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: long way from from anything that would require or that

1044
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: should involve that level of it's hysterio. Okay, that's hysteria.

1045
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: That's not that's not what's going on here. Maybe Trump

1046
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: has learned the lesson though, you know, it's amazing to

1047
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: me some of the people that have turned And again

1048
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: MTG is a member of Congress, so I've a little more.

1049
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: But some of the people on the right that I'm seeing,

1050
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: and including some that honestly look I like and think

1051
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: are really good on a lot of stuff, they're not

1052
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: good on this. And I think in part it's, you know,

1053
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: they they've gone too far in the direction of you know,

1054
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: everything everything now is the Iraq War and WMD lies

1055
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: everything is is a twenty year war in Afghanistan that

1056
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: ends up with the Taliman coming back into power. It's like, well,

1057
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen that. There are plenty of things

1058
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: that happened that don't result in this, and just because

1059
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, air strikes in Syria, which by

1060
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: the way, Trump did in the first Trump administration, nobody

1061
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: even remembers them. That's all you have to know about

1062
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: how much mission creep there was. There No one even

1063
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: remembers these missile strikes that we did remember this, and

1064
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: there was talk about chemical weapons usage, which now there's

1065
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: a lot of debate over whether that even happened. Put

1066
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: that aside, I think Trump maybe did learn the lesson

1067
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: though Clay, and the lesson is you could hit people

1068
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: and then use hitting them as part of the framework

1069
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: of understanding of you want to get hit again or

1070
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: not behave you don't actually have to remember the Colin

1071
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Powell thing of you know, if you break it, you

1072
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: buy it or whatever. I mean, that was his that

1073
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: was his witticism that caught on with so many people. No, actually,

1074
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: just because you bomb nuclear reactors doesn't mean you have

1075
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: to have eighty second airborne landing on the outskirts of

1076
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: Tehran season the airfields and being in charge of like

1077
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Iranian's plumbing for the next ten years, like we don't

1078
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: actually have to do that. Trump's not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I see from all this. I

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Speaker 2: The other thing I would say here, some of you

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Speaker 2: are saying, Okay, how does this impact my pocket book?

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Speaker 2: Price of oil down seven and a half percent as

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Speaker 2: I am talking to you, down five dollars and fifty cents.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about this with Buck off Air. If

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Speaker 2: the big concern had been, oh, the straight of hor moves,

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Speaker 2: how is this going to impact the overall price of oil?

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Speaker 2: You know where most of Iran's oil goes, China. So

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Speaker 2: the last thing that China wants is Iranian oil fields

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Speaker 2: getting attacked because it increases the cost of their oil

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Speaker 2: and gas, which is about two percent of the overall

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Speaker 2: population overall supply. But overwhelmingly China benefits from discounted Iranian

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Speaker 2: oil and gas because of the sanctions that are in place.

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Speaker 2: So again, a lot of the analysis here has not

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Speaker 2: been sophisticated, and I think it builds on this Buck.

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Speaker 2: It's just an overall expectation of catastrophe everywhere. Sometimes catastrophe happens,

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Speaker 2: but if you expect all the time for everything to

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Speaker 2: to be wrong. And again, I think what we are

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Speaker 2: seeing in the reaction from Iran is it's very muted.

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Speaker 2: It's nowhere near World War three. And I would just say,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's even one of them. Just FYI, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean you think.

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Speaker 1: The Russians have a lot of extra manpower to throw

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