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Speaker 2: Doctor Scott. Let's jump back into your book, Aliens in
Speaker 2: the Apocalypse. The meaning of alien messages. I've talked about
Speaker 2: it on this program before. I kind of call them
Speaker 2: sort of alien editorials where they lecture us, and these,
Speaker 2: you know, the limited encounters where we have specific information
Speaker 2: from them. They're sharing a fairly consistent message that we
Speaker 2: need to quit messing with nukes, we need to quit
Speaker 2: messing up our planet, we need to get our act together.
Speaker 2: Can you give me a sense of how far back
Speaker 2: those kind of messages go when we started hearing those
Speaker 2: kind of themes.
Speaker 3: Well, I think so far as messing up our planet,
Speaker 3: that's something that we've started doing recently. I don't think
Speaker 3: we were really as disastrous before as we are now.
Speaker 3: And well, since we've viewed UFOs of spaceships, some people
Speaker 3: have some people have said they received messages, but such
Speaker 3: as getting along peacefully and saving our planet. The UFO
Speaker 3: phenomenon may have gone way way back as far as
Speaker 3: recorded history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the message is about blowing ourselves up.
Speaker 2: Didn't didn't really pop up until we started building nuclear weapons. Though. Correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think our first bomb went off in nineteen
Speaker 3: forty five, and what we view as UFOs began in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven, although this might have been other ones
Speaker 3: that nobody interpreted that way too.
Speaker 2: You make the point that these messages that are shared
Speaker 2: with contact ees abductees, it's sort of a democratic in
Speaker 2: a sense that they don't land on the White House
Speaker 2: lawn and make some announcement done mass media. They tell
Speaker 2: this story, the same message over and over to individuals,
Speaker 2: one at a time, or sometimes in small groups. Correct. Yes,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: They're not going through our hierarchy. I mean usually, I
Speaker 3: mean right now we have kind of a male archy
Speaker 3: with the males on top of the White House and
Speaker 3: Putin and everybody. And if they want to be officially
Speaker 3: recognized by us, they need to sort of recognize our
Speaker 3: social setup, and they don't appear to be doing that.
Speaker 2: And you think one reason for that might be that
Speaker 2: they are female centric civilizations that they developed through female
Speaker 2: dominated societies or civilizations. You make the case that for humans,
Speaker 2: may be the most important building blocks of our current
Speaker 2: civilizations were done by women and not by men.
Speaker 3: Yes, the we have the Conquistador attitude of alpha males
Speaker 3: and all that of males being in charge, and they
Speaker 3: are in charge by violence and brutality and swords and
Speaker 3: all that. Well, our alien appearances often are skinny little females,
Speaker 3: and often who they appear to our females and children.
Speaker 3: They're not necessarily to our top leaders. And that's sole
Speaker 3: that's ignoring our hierarchy. But they're giving the impression that
Speaker 3: we should pay more attention to our females instead of
Speaker 3: our males, and we're solving our problems, such as it
Speaker 3: aggression by being more aggressive. I mean, like you're not
Speaker 3: hearing messages from the UFOs that say, make bigger bombs
Speaker 3: and kill more people, just the opposite. And so I
Speaker 3: was saying that maybe they're asking us to pay attention
Speaker 3: to other ideas of how we were founded. So I
Speaker 3: was giving a lot of information about human and animal
Speaker 3: females and their importance and giving suggestions that may be
Speaker 3: our civilization was founded in groups of females rather than
Speaker 3: killer eights, which is a standard explanation. The standard explanation
Speaker 3: is that we became cognivores and started killing animals and
Speaker 3: that's how we became successful. Well, that's an old theory,
Speaker 3: but it's very widespread, but there's not a whole lot
Speaker 3: of evidence for it.
Speaker 2: Well, you do present evidence that backs up a lot
Speaker 2: of your central contentions and that in human civilization it's
Speaker 2: the female contributions that are most important, for example, language, writing, communication,
Speaker 2: So much of the fundamental commun medications that are documented
Speaker 2: through history happened from mother to child. Correct.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I was the people that wrote about the
Speaker 3: killer eight, which is the standard explanation and the most widespread,
Speaker 3: and what everybody views doesn't have a lot to back
Speaker 3: it up because the people that were writing that didn't
Speaker 3: know anything about mammal behavior and were mammals. And most
Speaker 3: mammals that form groups form female groups that are presented
Speaker 3: often as male harems, and the males like the females,
Speaker 3: but actually most mammal groups of females that related females
Speaker 3: like grandmothers and mothers and so on down the line,
Speaker 3: and the males are usually kind of temporary and fight
Speaker 3: each other and one is there for a while and
Speaker 3: goes out. But if we are like the other mammals,
Speaker 3: we probably started out as female groups, and for most
Speaker 3: of the time we probably were. And what it's good
Speaker 3: evidence is that the first art in the first cave
Speaker 3: drawings and everything else, mainly emphasized females. And if you
Speaker 3: go back far enough to where they find the very
Speaker 3: first carving, it's a female. If you go during most
Speaker 3: of the time humans have been here, we've been here
Speaker 3: about two hundred thousand years. During most of the time
Speaker 3: except very recently, most of the artists featured females. They're
Speaker 3: just statues of females. And they've also looked at cave
Speaker 3: drawings and oftentimes these have handprints on them and looked
Speaker 3: at those, and usually they're the handprints of the size
Speaker 3: of women and children, sort of the comparative finger lengths
Speaker 3: of females, And so they have that standard picture of
Speaker 3: the males drewing, making drawings on the caves, or they're
Speaker 3: hunting and everything. But I was saying that it's more
Speaker 3: likely that they were females and children, and the females
Speaker 3: are doing the same thing females do today and all
Speaker 3: through time, is tell their children about the world and
Speaker 3: tell them about animals and draw animals and things. And
Speaker 3: I was saying that if you can draw a picture
Speaker 3: of an animal, you have an idea of what it
Speaker 3: is and if you have that idea, you can use it.
Speaker 3: You can think in symbols, and you can not only
Speaker 3: draw it, which you can have. Language tells you this
Speaker 3: is a this is a cow, this is a sheep,
Speaker 3: and so on, and that our ability to think in
Speaker 3: symbols might be a lot more reason for our success.
Speaker 3: And men sharpening up rocks and attacking animals.
Speaker 2: Well, I think probably there are parts of your book
Speaker 2: that won't make make you real popular among some males
Speaker 2: in the society, but you make a persuasive argument in
Speaker 2: that you know males are physically dominant, stronger, tougher. A
Speaker 2: lot of what the drives civilization is the warlike impulses
Speaker 2: and building bigger and better machines to dominate not only
Speaker 2: other humans other civilizations, but the natural environment and animals.
Speaker 2: But it's the when men are competing against other men,
Speaker 2: it's largely to impress women. Correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they usually say the epic high part of evolution
Speaker 3: is the weapon or the big fangs and all that. Well,
Speaker 3: that's not the most importance. The animals have these big
Speaker 3: fangs and everything to site of other males and impressed females,
Speaker 3: but they never say what the female does and the
Speaker 3: female probably has a lot more to do with survival
Speaker 3: than the males do, because what's left out is what
Speaker 3: the female does well. The males make all this big
Speaker 3: app ratus, fighting other males for dominance and everything for
Speaker 3: each other, but they're fighting for the females, and usually
Speaker 3: after mating, that that's the end of the male input. Well,
Speaker 3: the female does everything else, such as the mating, the pregnancy,
Speaker 3: the lactation, raising the young, and showing the young around,
Speaker 3: and that may take many, many, many years. And that's
Speaker 3: why that's probably a lot more important to the survival
Speaker 3: than the male's fighting.
Speaker 2: Back to the part about the visitors of the aliens,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess most of us never even think
Speaker 2: about gender or sex of aliens. The common image of aliens,
Speaker 2: what they look like, these spindly little humanoids. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't come up because there are no obvious gender physical
Speaker 2: characteristics that we would associate with the gender sex.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, they don't have big muscles, and if you
Speaker 3: look at the moldings and like Roswell, they're females and
Speaker 3: you don't see very many of them that show male
Speaker 3: anatomical features.
Speaker 2: So your guests would be that these alien civilizations wherever
Speaker 2: they're from, that they develop in a lot of ways
Speaker 2: as humans have with female centric influences.
Speaker 3: Well, we're setting up to blow ourselves up, and I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know if we will, but they may be
Speaker 3: emphasizing to us that we should have a more females.
Speaker 3: Usually in mammals their cooperative, The males are fighting each other,
Speaker 3: the females get along fine. Usually there's no wars with
Speaker 3: females in the animal world. So they may be telling
Speaker 3: us that we need to understand our own females and
Speaker 3: our own evolution better than the picture we have now,
Speaker 3: which is encouraging us to build bigger weapons and kill
Speaker 3: more people and build up our competitive military and spend
Speaker 3: time on.
Speaker 2: That cold you share with us some of the messages
Speaker 2: that have been conveyed to humans by them, whoever they are,
Speaker 2: wherever they're from, that illustrate the point that you know,
Speaker 2: we're getting these messages that are not necessarily predictions of apocalypse,
Speaker 2: but they're warnings and sort of lessons that they hope
Speaker 2: we will learn. What are some examples of the ones
Speaker 2: that stand out to you that you mentioned in your book.
Speaker 3: Well, one I mentioned in particular was Fatima and this
Speaker 3: was where around seventy thousand people experience the event. It
Speaker 3: started out with three children who were taking care of
Speaker 3: sheep shepherd people, and they had this experience of seeing
Speaker 3: this man who said, who said there will be some
Speaker 3: more experiences. Well, there were every thirteenth of the month
Speaker 3: from then until I think it was October the thirteenth.
Speaker 3: And their parents didn't believe them and told them they
Speaker 3: were crazy and all that, but they kept on talking
Speaker 3: about it, and especially the younger kids that didn't know
Speaker 3: that they were supposed to shut up. They were using
Speaker 3: sophisticated language and things that caused the adults to wonder
Speaker 3: what was going on. But anyway, they were supposed to
Speaker 3: have a big showing on the thirteenth I think it
Speaker 3: was October, and a vast amount of people had heard
Speaker 3: about it, came to see it, photographers and everything, and
Speaker 3: the person they were talking to had the appearance of
Speaker 3: a female, and you'd think, you know, God's supposed to
Speaker 3: be a deity, is supposed to be a male in
Speaker 3: all these religions that a male would appear. Once that
Speaker 3: was a female, and it was called a miracle where
Speaker 3: the sun disappeared. It was it was raining, the sun disappeared.
Speaker 3: Then this thing that looked like the sun came down
Speaker 3: from the sky and moved around and dried up people
Speaker 3: and then went back up. It was a miracle of
Speaker 3: the sun. And they also gave predictions, and one of
Speaker 3: them has been a secret from the Catholic Church, but
Speaker 3: it sounded like it was like apocalypse or the end
Speaker 3: of the world or something. And a number of other
Speaker 3: predictions and things like that have also said that that's
Speaker 3: where we're headed for. And there may be are letting
Speaker 3: us know that our social setup of male aggration and
Speaker 3: the idea that it solves all the problems may be wrong,
Speaker 3: and maybe we should look at the other half, which
Speaker 3: actually is dominant, and females usually show cooperative behavior and
Speaker 3: help each other out rather than the antagonistic male behavior.
Speaker 3: And I was saying that maybe, I mean, that's a
Speaker 3: lot of the messages that are spoken, but there's also
Speaker 3: the messages in vision, and they're not showing big, threatening
Speaker 3: men with weapons like we often do. When we when
Speaker 3: more I hate to say advanced, when society was more
Speaker 3: aggress introduces self to a society that's less aggressive. For example,
Speaker 3: when the Europeans came to the New World. They have
Speaker 3: pressed the Indians and a lot of that sort of
Speaker 3: thing has happened.
Speaker 2: Back to Fatima. For a second, you're saying flat out
Speaker 2: you think that that was a UFO event, not some
Speaker 2: spiritual religious phenomena, right.
Speaker 3: No, I think it could be interpreted as religious or UFO,
Speaker 3: either one or even asta. I think it's a message,
Speaker 3: but it's given in visions and words both.
Speaker 2: We don't know what that third message was, or do
Speaker 2: we do you have an idea?
Speaker 3: I well, one of the messages, this was during World
Speaker 3: War One, and one of the messages is or would end,
Speaker 3: but there'd be another war and then which came true.
Speaker 3: They predicted that two of the kids would die, and
Speaker 3: that came true. But there was a third one that
Speaker 3: people are guessing it was the end of the world
Speaker 3: or something, but I don't know for sure if they
Speaker 3: know what it is.
Speaker 2: The messages apocalyptic sort of messages from them, whoever they are.
Speaker 2: They're not really predictions that we're going to blow ourselves up.
Speaker 2: They're more like warnings, hey, get your act together or
Speaker 2: else kind of a thing, right.
Speaker 3: Right, We hope we don't boil ourselves up. And it
Speaker 3: seemed to be pretty interested in what we do too.
Speaker 2: Does that make you think that they live here, that
Speaker 2: there is interested in us, but they're more interested in
Speaker 2: maybe the planet because they're here.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think that probably we don't take their
Speaker 3: everything in with our senses. I mean, the universe, according
Speaker 3: to what there you go by, might be like twenty
Speaker 3: six billion years old. Earth is only four billion years old.
Speaker 3: There may be lots of entities in the universe, there
Speaker 3: are nothing like us and way way beyond us, so
Speaker 3: that we wouldn't even be able to sense them unless
Speaker 3: they project into our minds. And so I think that
Speaker 3: there's probably a lot more recognition of what Earth is
Speaker 3: around the universe, and we think there is because we're
Speaker 3: not receiving signals that we know of.
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