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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: This is almost In this podcast, we have one of

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Speaker 2: my favorites and Bachelor Nations, Susie here with us. Susie,

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Speaker 2: I just listened to your podcast and I was telling

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Speaker 2: you this about scamming. For all the listeners out there

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Speaker 2: of the Almost Famous podcast, I think they should listen

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Speaker 2: to your podcast.

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Speaker 3: And give it a try.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and scamming was one that I listened to

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Speaker 2: because I have been attempted.

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Speaker 3: Bob, I don't know if you feel this way. I

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Speaker 3: think I get.

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Speaker 2: I think people attempt to scam me once a day.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so what do we talking?

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Speaker 2: How do you mean scam like emails or phone calls?

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Speaker 2: So I have two and and Susie, we're going to

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Speaker 2: dive into you.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear. No, I want to hear your

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Speaker 4: scam story because we didn't get to finish it.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole.

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Speaker 2: Podcast on this with an expert. It's incredible. You should

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Speaker 2: listen to it.

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Speaker 3: But there was one moment where Capital One called me.

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Speaker 2: I went through the whole thing. They asked me a

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Speaker 2: bunch of questions. All of a sudden, I realized it

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Speaker 2: wasn't capital one. I already given them a bunch of

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Speaker 2: information and it scared me. The second was last week

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Speaker 2: my business generous almost got scammed for close to fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Wow, crazy, crazy, And luckily we have some

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Speaker 2: checks and balances in place where our accountant can't write

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Speaker 2: the check and if it's over a certain amount. And

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I said, I didn't just sign

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Speaker 2: up for leadership training for fifty grand I don't know

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Speaker 2: where this is coming from.

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Speaker 5: And so I know so many so I have so

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Speaker 5: many friends. I'll just use a couple real quick. The

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Speaker 5: Kentucky Derby, for example, Yeah, which I go to every

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Speaker 5: year for the last twenty years, which I'm so proud

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Speaker 5: to be associated with it. I started bringing some friends

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Speaker 5: into it and two of them got scammed where they

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Speaker 5: were told, oh, you need to pay right now in full.

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Speaker 3: And it was called it was.

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Speaker 5: A thing called ghosting, where they ghost an email that

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Speaker 5: you've already been oh my god, I'm getting in and

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Speaker 5: you think you're responding to the same person, but it's

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Speaker 5: a different person. That person doesn't see any of that email.

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Speaker 3: They sent the check, they.

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Speaker 5: Sent the cash twenty thousand dollars, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: And they're like, we never got that money.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine being seventy plus years old and not

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Speaker 2: familiar with this new world.

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Speaker 3: It breaks my heart, honestly so hard.

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Speaker 2: So Susie, tell everybody as we start out here about

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Speaker 2: your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we talked about.

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Speaker 2: It what three months ago on this show as it

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Speaker 2: was getting launched.

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Speaker 3: But it's launched.

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Speaker 2: You have some great episodes, a new one with Wells

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Speaker 2: Adams out there that's really funny and really lighthearted and

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Speaker 2: it's Wells and it's weird shock Well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super deep and.

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Speaker 4: Heavy and really emotional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Susie, tell everybody out there listening where they can

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Speaker 2: kind of listen to your latest project.

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Speaker 4: So you can listen anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's

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Speaker 4: called Live Laugh Lies. And we do really fun graphics

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Speaker 4: as well, so we do video, but then we also

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Speaker 4: like to overlay fun stuff on the screen, so if

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Speaker 4: you like to watch, you can watch on YouTube and

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Speaker 4: it's it's a bit more fun. But yeah, we do

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Speaker 4: some serious topics, like we have people on that have

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Speaker 4: the most bizarre stories of like one woman married a

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Speaker 4: guy who lied about everything including his social security number,

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Speaker 4: including his bank account numbers, like everything like scammed her

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Speaker 4: they were fully married, And then we had experts on

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Speaker 4: that talked about people that were scammed. I was scammed recently,

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Speaker 4: so that's kind of what piqued my interest with having

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Speaker 4: her on, And we talked about safety online and like

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Speaker 4: episode once a month called Tell Me Lies, which is

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Speaker 4: like more lighthearted, so it's like less intense, less like

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Speaker 4: cheating scandals, cults, and more like let's have fun and

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Speaker 4: like shoot this shit.

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Speaker 3: Who would be a better cult leader, Bob or myself?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I.

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Speaker 2: Think you would be because I and I could give

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Speaker 2: a reason why I want Susie to answer who follow

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I followed Ben.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, here's the deal. I think you might. You

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Speaker 4: both bring a lot to the table when it comes

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Speaker 4: to a cult. Let me start with your Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think that, Like I don't know, this is so hard

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Speaker 4: to say, because I actually could see you like maybe

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Speaker 4: accidentally starting a cult. You are very like charismatic and

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Speaker 4: like I feel like people like I could hear anything

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Speaker 4: you say right now and I would believe exactly what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a company, and I don't know that, ye,

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Speaker 3: like I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: That's like good. But then I could see you maybe

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Speaker 4: like intentionally yea intentionally being like let me let me

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Speaker 4: do Yeah, like I could see you and Wells being

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Speaker 4: let's get some white linen pants and like start a

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Speaker 4: cult where I feel like.

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Speaker 5: With you that.

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Speaker 2: You both bring a lot to the give both Like

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Speaker 2: I think I I think you could wake up one

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Speaker 2: and be like, I don't know how, but let's guide

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Speaker 2: them in a direct let's go this way, and Wells

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Speaker 2: and I'd be like, you know what, we plan this,

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Speaker 2: but let's get four million this we know exactly what

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's probably true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, true.

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Speaker 4: And there's beauty in both of that, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like I see it and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: In both of you guys, and I can see Susie

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Speaker 3: in both of those. You're so sweet. You guys have

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Speaker 3: seen a movie Beekeeper.

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Speaker 5: No, Oh my gosh, So what you were just saying

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Speaker 5: about scamming just resonated with me, only because my mom's

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Speaker 5: seventy eight. She got early on side dementia, right, and

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Speaker 5: we're we're doing all these things we can help take

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what your computer?

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Speaker 3: Who's talking? And the computer saying, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, oh, you have downloaded the trojan virus?

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Speaker 3: Go to this and call this number. And I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what's that over to call for Microsoft if

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Speaker 5: you have a virus? And it wasn't the same number

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Speaker 3: And there's a movie called.

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Speaker 5: Beekeeper with Jason Statham and it's crazy and if you

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Speaker 5: for me, you'll probably cry, which I always do. And

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Speaker 5: it was basically about someone who got taken advantage of

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Speaker 3: I mean you should, I mean, is that what we're

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Speaker 5: It was like it was insane to because I hadn't

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Speaker 5: it's kind of Baniana's.

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Speaker 4: It's becoming really uh, they're getting really good at it.

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Speaker 4: It's becoming really prevalent. And that's only not like all

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Speaker 4: of what we talk about on the podcast, but that's

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Speaker 4: been Mary Bonnet from selling Sunset. She had someone hack

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Speaker 4: Everyone thought she was like going crazy because nobody else

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Speaker 4: them literally like taunted her for nine months and then

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no Wi Fi, that's what my wife is

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Speaker 5: Sister's best friend had a horrible Wi Fi experience where

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Speaker 5: who's now ten, and he would go, you know, mommy,

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Speaker 5: so and so said that I should you know, stay

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Speaker 5: And sure enough, a dude comes on the monitor voice,

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Speaker 3: A thing I didn't know. It's a thing I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: There was weirdos out there that would even try this.

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Speaker 4: Who has time to go talk to a baby?

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Speaker 3: Can't we do something cooler?

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Speaker 4: Can't we hack like some bad guy in another country

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Speaker 4: that needs to be taken down?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So stupid?

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well this is a great podcast though, Susie.

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Speaker 2: You're crushing it. And since the launch that we talked

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Speaker 2: about on the almost in his podcast. It's been not

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Speaker 2: only entertaining, it's been uh comedy. It's been a mix

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Speaker 2: of comedy and real life experience and emotion. And it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: You're doing a great job. Thank you, So you should

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Speaker 2: know that manybody should listen to it. Bob has a

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Speaker 2: game for you though. Okay about the baby shower.

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Speaker 5: Now, guys, this is going to be interesting because it's

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Speaker 5: called guess who, all, right, mommy or daddy? And I

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Speaker 5: know I know some of these answers into I actually

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Speaker 5: really do, and I think that if life experience will

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Speaker 5: know the right answers to these.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna let you guys go through this.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, It's called guess who mommy or daddy? Right,

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Speaker 5: So it's it's a simple answer. You'll say mommy or daddy, okay,

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Speaker 5: and you will say mommy or daddy. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: I think that it's going to change over time, especially

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Speaker 5: this first one. So if you had to take a

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Speaker 5: mommy or daddy.

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Speaker 3: So, Susie, I'm gonna go to you first.

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Speaker 4: Oh, answer, and I think Mommy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Mommy, All right, now, I'm gonna give you guys

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Speaker 5: a little sub context here. In the first six months,

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Speaker 5: mom will change more diapers.

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Speaker 5: And if it's the answer is not daddy, I might

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Speaker 5: But the truth be told, the answer better be daddy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, who will be more patient mommy or daddy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that like that, Like I will be the one

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Speaker 5: Well, and I'm gonna tell you you have never slept

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want so many more? Really, Yeah, pregnancy is

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Speaker 3: Been. You want to impregnate me five times?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, so Canyon and I are our first child

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Speaker 4: Carrying the pregnancy ye yourself.

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Speaker 5: She it wasn't morning sickness.

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Speaker 3: It was morning. It was sickness all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and people get that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a happy accident. She was done.

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Speaker 5: who will spoil the baby the most? I think I

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Speaker 4: Maybe Daddy. I don't know. It's so it's so hard

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Speaker 5: You guys are such a sweet mix of kindness.

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Speaker 4: You guys are both so sweet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a baby girl, and I know she's gonna

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Speaker 2: I think it's going I honestly think this, and this

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Speaker 3: It would be a fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: I think she'll spoil her more because my parents were

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to spoil.

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Speaker 2: And I think I have that implemented in me, of like,

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Speaker 3: Life is expected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that she doesn't get the wrong idea here

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get the role. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 5: Last question, Okay, the movie Clueless notwithstanding right, no one

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Speaker 5: Who will be the fun parent?

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Speaker 3: Who will be the fun one? Is it gonna be jazz?

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna be beat?

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Speaker 5: I already know the answer in my family, and I'll

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, this stay mom my moment and they're like

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Speaker 5: I'm like, why is this allowed here? I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: I just adopt the role. So what do you think

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is I feel like this goes

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Speaker 4: But then I also think sometimes like this was kind

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to depend on age.

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Speaker 2: Jessica is gonna thrive from birth till like honestly, like

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Speaker 2: been there. Yeah, Jessica hasn't been there. My wife is

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Speaker 3: She is.

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Speaker 2: She's done so well keeping like her values and her

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Speaker 2: I've been there.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I don't like to hear this from you,

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Speaker 2: But I can handle it and let's talk this through.

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Speaker 2: And so I think it's going to change. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be great. I think Jessica's gonna be great

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Speaker 2: at both stages. But we're going to switch off. And

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Speaker 2: I think when when my baby girl comes home and

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Speaker 3: You're gonna kill that guy though. Yeah, oh, in my back,

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Speaker 3: I could be a dad. I could be a dad

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Speaker 3: it's tough for me to think about right now.

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Speaker 2: I just think that there's a moment where I'll sit

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Speaker 2: Have you guys seen Shrinking yet?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I love that Shrinking a great show on TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 5: But it's like that's he's such a great actor because

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Speaker 3: Like, no, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Very love Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Can I ask one more question that's on the list here?

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Speaker 5: It's not the list. But I so we've not talked

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 3: So but have you guys decided on one yet? Yes?

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Speaker 3: So may I ask.

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Speaker 3: Who chose it?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 5: Were you the guy that chose the name? Or was

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Speaker 2: She chose the name, but she chose it knowing it's

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Speaker 5: Okay, So Stubby Stebbie Stebbie.

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Speaker 3: Oh Susan, well, I would it not be?

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Speaker 5: I mean, honest, Scott, you love Susie, Susie, I mean

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Speaker 3: Susie.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you for.

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Speaker 2: Having men of the podcast and what anything else that

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Speaker 4: No, Honestly, the podcast is where I would love to

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Speaker 5: I feel like I have It's like an indigestion for me.

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Speaker 5: Vlogging like I should take a pill for that.

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Speaker 3: Watch it.

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Speaker 4: It's fun. It's like right now, I'm doing it in

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