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Speaker 2: Good morning, swee and welcome to the Not Dumps podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, November sixth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I'm J. E. Skeith. Here in the Classic Factory. To

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby Heil, hey you, and over yonder the man

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Speaker 2: and here we are. Fantastic cold open there to start

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Speaker 2: the week. JD, thank you. I was a banger. Shout coffee,

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Speaker 2: be focusing on James Harden's Clippers debut in Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 2: But there are twelve games on total, so we'll be

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Speaker 2: bouncing around quite a bit, hopefully get some great endings

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Speaker 2: at least to those seven o'clock starts. And yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: see how James plays. Let's say James Blue.

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Speaker 1: The system early starts tonight, though we have one game Denver,

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Speaker 2: Yes, going to get you into bed early here tonight,

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Speaker 2: So join us on playback. It's a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: just hanging out watching these games. Okay, it's Monday here

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Speaker 2: in the Classic Factory. We do our weekend winners and losers.

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Speaker 2: We start with the winners and I'll get us go

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Speaker 2: in here TK interest to see interested to see if

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Speaker 2: you agree with me? Winter the weekend, the start of

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Speaker 2: the ist Baby the n season tournament on Friday night

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Speaker 2: got underway, seven games in total. And yeah, the courts

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Speaker 2: were wild. Yes, some of them were absolutely insane, you know,

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Speaker 2: looking like Boise State out there or the red wedding

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Speaker 1: Just quickly if you're choosing, because I feel like there

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Speaker 2: Which do you prefer? I think I incredibly prefer the

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Speaker 2: blue courts over the red courts. Well, I'm a red man. Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 2: They were wild, eric extreme, they were very extreme. But

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Speaker 2: but here's why it's a winner of the weekend. The

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Speaker 1: I got the Atlanta Hawks as a winner. I got

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Speaker 2: I love about the Hawks winning these games well two things. One,

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Speaker 1: The Hawks, indeed, because you're right, rough, rough.

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Speaker 2: Start when it came to that, but they've got it

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Speaker 1: com slash no Dunks, talking about the evolution of Jason

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter on Saturday because Goga Bataz was balling.

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Speaker 2: to miss anything, so I keep doing the check in

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Speaker 2: on the phone. Oh okay, it's getting a little cold.

431
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Speaker 2: It was still a fifteen point deficit the start of

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, that's right, so it wasn't looking great

433
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Speaker 2: for the Raptors' chances. And then as it gets closer

434
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Speaker 2: and closer, I'm like, okay, I got to get the

435
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Speaker 2: league pass on. But I got yelling at. You know,

436
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Speaker 2: I was like, come on more, king here it said

437
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Speaker 2: it's work. I did say they got it done. It's

438
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Speaker 2: all Scotty Barnes man. I mean I had to get

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Speaker 2: in the A block. I paid off. I think at

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Speaker 2: some point this week, though we may want to like

441
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Speaker 2: do a deep dive on the the idea of training

442
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Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, who could use them? What the deal would

443
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Speaker 2: look like should the Raptors do it?

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Speaker 1: Is us?

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Speaker 2: Is that us overreacting or not? I think that's a

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Speaker 2: topic for later this week.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good to me.

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Speaker 2: Any other weekend winners? Yeah, there was a.

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Speaker 1: Bucks fan who had a half court shot one ten

450
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, just ran off the court. Damn, that's pretty

451
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Speaker 1: good reaction.

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Speaker 2: I did not see this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a little payout for being honest. Ten

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Speaker 1: k Well better than a TV. Better better than a TV.

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Speaker 1: You can buy several TVs for ten g's. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a great celebration. Just ran through

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Speaker 1: the tunnel. See you later, guy.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, another one I would get Dylan Brooks a winner

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Speaker 1: of the weekend. The Rockets got their first dub. Oh wait,

461
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Speaker 1: that's their second win. That was their second one. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: they won, they won last week. But twenty six points

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Speaker 1: nine rebounds for Dylan Brooks. He was blowing kisses to

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Speaker 1: the King's bench. That's another guy to put on your MIP.

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Speaker 2: Shortlist early in the season. Wow, really, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: on fire.

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Speaker 1: That's my top three candidates right now, Dylan Brooks, Jalen Johnson,

468
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Speaker 1: and Scotty bar Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Woh wow wow. I got a few other weekend winners,

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Speaker 2: some honorable mentions. The Wolves, they only played one game

471
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Speaker 2: over the weekend, but they spanked the Jazz one, twenty

472
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Speaker 2: three to ninety five. You know, we talked about it

473
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Speaker 2: when we said Boston's going to play them tonight, but

474
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Speaker 2: they have the number one ranked defense in the league

475
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: by a significant margin the Timberwolves do. They've held opponents

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Speaker 2: under one hundred points in four of their five games

477
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Speaker 2: this season, so that is that's sort of what we

478
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Speaker 2: were expecting last season with you know, Go Bear and

479
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: that crew there. But they got to go in here,

480
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Speaker 2: so a little love to them. Kelly Hubray Junior and

481
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Speaker 2: the Sixers. On Saturday, the Sixers picked up your fourth

482
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Speaker 2: straight win after losing to the Bucks in the season opener.

483
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Speaker 2: They pulled away in the fourth quarter beat the Suns.

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Speaker 2: You know, mattin a game there. Kelly Hubray Junior twenty

485
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Speaker 2: five points, ten of eighteen shooting, and they have four

486
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Speaker 2: guys scoring over twenty points per game. It's it's the

487
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Speaker 2: first team in NBA history to have four players average

488
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Speaker 2: twenty points plus per game over the team's first five

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Speaker 2: games of the season. Embd twenty nine point four, Maxi

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Speaker 2: twenty six point two, Kelly Hubrey Junior twenty one, and

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Speaker 2: then Tobias Harris at exactly twenty. It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm gonna be taking an L on that.

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Speaker 1: Under a head for the Philadelphia seventy six ers, I

494
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Speaker 1: think it was forty eight and a half. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if Embiid misses time at some point, they got

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Speaker 1: enough scoring, yeah right now to win some games. Even

497
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Speaker 1: if he happens the this time, which he hasn't yet,

498
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Speaker 1: they could easily be five and out like they had.

499
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Speaker 1: They had the Bucks beat until Dame went crazy in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So yeah, incredible start for the Sixers.

501
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Speaker 2: And then finally Piston's rookie Asar Thompson with a wild

502
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Speaker 2: line there on Sunday. It came in a loss, but

503
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Speaker 2: listen to this for the rook fourteen points, nine boards

504
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Speaker 2: for Cis, four steals and four blocks, flirting with the

505
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Speaker 2: five by five, which we love here on No Doug

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Speaker 2: Ry And we actually had a debate going at this

507
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Speaker 2: very same din where I got yelled at for watching

508
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Speaker 2: the Raptors game on play on leap pass. Is that

509
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Speaker 2: closer to achieving a five by five fourteen nine, four,

510
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Speaker 2: four and four that Thompson had as a rook again

511
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Speaker 2: really impressive? Is that closer to the five by five?

512
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Speaker 2: Or is going hitting four categories let's say whatever you

513
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Speaker 2: want to call them, like twelve, eleven, ten has five

514
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Speaker 2: steals and then only has two blocks. So point is

515
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Speaker 2: you still need three three things in the box score

516
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Speaker 2: to get to the five by five. One of them

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Speaker 2: is a category that you need three blocks, just as

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Speaker 2: a hypothetical, and then Thompson needs one from a Cistelen block.

519
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Speaker 2: And we were debating which one is closer, which one

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Speaker 2: is actually closer to the five by five. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a fun debate that is you were on the

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Speaker 2: well you go ahead? Which side are you on? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm a simpleton skeet, So for me, when I see

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Speaker 1: four categories that have at least five, that's closer to me.

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's a child's thing.

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Speaker 2: I think it is. You know, no matter what they're

527
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Speaker 2: gonna think.

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Speaker 1: The taller glass is the one that has more volume

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Speaker 1: in it. That's me, like all that one's bigger so

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's three discrete events that

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Speaker 1: still need to happen. Three steals is really tough to

532
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Speaker 1: get one steal one block. That's only two possessions and

533
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Speaker 1: assists that's easy.

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Speaker 2: And it assists on assists exactly.

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Speaker 1: So maybe it is the fourteen nine four. I think

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Speaker 1: it is, Yeah, but before you learn object permanent, it's

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Speaker 1: got to be the five to five to five, five

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Speaker 1: to two.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a I don't even know how we

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Speaker 2: would word that in a poll type, but let us

541
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Speaker 2: know when the stream team podcast listeners tweet on us

542
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Speaker 2: at no Dunk's ink, which one is actually closer?

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Speaker 1: Just one?

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Speaker 2: You need the one category gory, but you had need three,

545
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Speaker 2: let's say blocks, or what Thompson did just needing one assist,

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Speaker 2: one steal in one block. He was He was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's watched the defensive highlights are really fun

548
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Speaker 2: guys all over the place, and Monty Williams recognizes as such,

549
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: and like is given this guy a lot of minutes.

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Speaker 2: He played thirty eight minutes in that game and all

551
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Speaker 2: well deserved. So there's our NBA Weekend winners. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: take a break. But when we come back. NBA weekend

553
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Speaker 2: losers don't go anywhere, all right, NBA weekend losers. It's

554
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: always more difficult to find the losers than it is

555
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Speaker 2: the winners. Is that us just being positive peats?

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Speaker 1: Maybe so, But I feel like there weren't a lot

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Speaker 1: of notable losers this week. This weekend, nobody was a

558
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Speaker 1: total disaster. For instance, my loser here, the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 1: It could have been way worse. They lost three straight

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Speaker 1: games after losing to the seventy six ers on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: but they avoided crisis mode by beating Detroit yesterday forty

562
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Speaker 1: one points from Kevin Durant. Still, though not an ideal start,

563
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Speaker 1: and they're really getting their loser here because their stars

564
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Speaker 1: aren't playing. Kevin Durant's played every minute so far the season,

565
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Speaker 1: every single game, which is good and bad, perhaps, you know,

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Speaker 1: considering he's the one who is the longest injury history

567
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Speaker 1: behind him. But Bradley Beal has yet to take the

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Speaker 1: court for the Suns in the regular season. He's been

569
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Speaker 1: out every single game with back spasms, and Devin Booker

570
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: has only played twice. He played on opening night, sprained

571
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Speaker 1: his ankle, then came back. Perhaps a little early, played

572
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Speaker 1: Thursday against the Spurs, and after that game he missed

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Speaker 1: both games this weekend due to a calf strain. The

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Speaker 1: team originally said it was because there was a quick

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Speaker 1: turnaround from their Thursday night game and their Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 1: game with Philadelphia. I think they played at like one

577
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Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern or something like that, so they said only

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Speaker 1: thirty six hours. But they had him down on the

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Speaker 1: injury report as an ankle injury, and then suddenly it

580
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Speaker 1: turned out to be a calf strain. They said maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll play on their next game Sunday against the Pistons,

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Speaker 1: but that didn't happen. So now Devin Booker has missed

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Speaker 1: games with a toe injury, a foot injury, an ankle injury,

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Speaker 1: and a calf injury, the first three on his left leg,

585
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Speaker 1: the other one on his right leg. He's missed five

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Speaker 1: games this season. If you missed seventeen games, if you

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Speaker 1: miss eighteen games, I suppose you're out of the running

588
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: for awards at the end of the season. And these

589
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: are all injuries ankles and calfs specifically that if you

590
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: don't rest them for a long time, they can reoccur.

591
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: So that could definitely happen. But depth was always going

592
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: to be a question mark for the Suns. But I

593
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: don't think anybody was thinking that we would be asking

594
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: these questions the first month of the season. That's generally

595
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: one of the healthiest times for an NBA team. But yeah,

596
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: luckily they won on Sunday. They would have been a

597
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: big time loser. I think today if they'd gone zero

598
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Speaker 1: to two over the weekend, had a four game losing streak,

599
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: so crisis averted. But just isn't looking great for Phoenix

600
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: right now. They're not clicking the way a team like

601
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: Boston is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, but they get the incomplete sort of

603
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: grade here because yeah, the three guys haven't played. But

604
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: a good point, like, if we had lined up their

605
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: three stars obviously after they acquired Beal in the off season,

606
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: and you go, Okay, of these three guys, which one's

607
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: the most likely to miss time, we'd probably all go Durant, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because of his injury history. And instead it's not him,

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00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: and he's sort of carrying them to you know, a

610
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Speaker 2: close to a five hundred record. They're a little under

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Speaker 2: right now, and it's yeah, no deal with backspasm. You

612
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Speaker 2: never want to hear. I never want to see back

613
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Speaker 2: as the injury for an NBA player because man, that

614
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: can that can linger. It can flare up, so you

615
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: can be okay, then you're suddenly back out again. Got

616
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Speaker 2: to be painful. And then, yeah, Booker, with all of

617
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: these injuries, whether they're connected or not, you start to

618
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: think they are a little bit that, yeah, did he

619
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Speaker 2: come back a little too soon and that then triggered this.

620
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Speaker 2: It can happen, there's no doubt, but yeah, not a

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Speaker 2: not a great start, and my my over for them

622
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Speaker 2: fifty one and a half. Oh geez, I mean, I

623
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Speaker 2: was assuming that it would at least have two of

624
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: their three guys always playing, and they can't even get

625
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: that right now. But yeah, he's just like trying to

626
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: like just keep them afloat here, keep them like a

627
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Speaker 2: round five hundred and then maybe these guys come back.

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Speaker 1: He's all they got right now. And you know, he's

629
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Speaker 1: able to put the team on his back at this

630
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: stage in his career, which is pretty impressive still, but

631
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Speaker 1: he's not getting much help, especially from a guy like

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Speaker 1: Usseuf Nurkic, who's shooting thirty seven percent through the first

633
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: seven games. This season. Nurkica lost a lot of athleticism

634
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Speaker 1: after he broke his leg. That was like what twenty

635
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: nineteen or something like that. But it's a problem him

636
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: finishing inside. He's got to hit more so from the

637
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: perimeter or just get a huge head of steam without

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Speaker 1: anybody in the way, because if he's got to make

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00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: some sort of an adjustment, that ball is going off

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Speaker 1: the rim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Even on Sunday, they sort of went away from

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Speaker 2: nurk He didn't play a whole lot of minutes. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he was in foul trouble. No, I'm looking

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00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: at the box score. Only played twenty seven minutes. So yeah,

645
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Vogel went to a couple other guys off the bench

646
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: to help them get that victory. I mean, yeah, you're right.

647
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: If they had lost that, oh that would have been

648
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: very bad. But Durant forty one. Eric Gordon was good

649
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: in that game twenty one. He hit through threes, and

650
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: you know, Watson, Abie and good Win, they were like

651
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: contributing off the bench. So took care of business in Detroit,

652
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: all right, loser the weekend, all of us trying to

653
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: figure out the ending of the Warriors Thunder game on

654
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Friday Night with the ist there, Steph Curry hit a

655
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: last second layup to lift the Warriors over the Thunder

656
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: one nine. But then uh oh, hold on, they're calling

657
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 2: it off. We're looking at it. What's going on here?

658
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: They're saying basket interference from Draymond Green because as Curry

659
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: like sort of lofted an incredible shot like I don't know,

660
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: he was like eight feet away with the finger roll

661
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: over ched Olngren with er point two seconds remaining. As

662
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: it bounced in, we then see Draymond Green and Josh

663
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: Giddy had appeared to touch the net and excuse me,

664
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: the rim and the net respectively, those two guys, Green

665
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: and Giddy. So the game winner initially waved off because

666
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: of Draymond Green because of offensive goaltending, but then the

667
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: calls overturned after they look at it because it showed

668
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: that Giddy touched the net first, which would be defensive goaltending.

669
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: But then we learned that that wasn't really the call

670
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: at all. Crew Chief Mitchell Irvin said after the game quote,

671
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: it was clear and conclusive evidence that Draymond does not

672
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: touch the ball. Although Draymond does touch the rim, he

673
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: does not touch the ball, nor does him touching the

674
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: rim cause the ball to take an unnatural bounce. Therefore,

675
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: a basketball violation does not occur on the play. This

676
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: did spark sort of mass confusion online and with basketball fans,

677
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: because you know, you have to go into the rule

678
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: book rulebook to really look at it. But we we

679
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: have always sort of been under the assumption, correct me

680
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong that players can't touch the rim at all.

681
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: Can't touch the rim or the net at all, yep,

682
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: because then that's you know, an offense or a defensive

683
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: sort of interference or goaltending or whatever. But that's not

684
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: really the rule. Like when you start looking at it,

685
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like that's the actual rule. Within the

686
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: NBA rule book, you know, there are quotes like, a

687
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: player shall not touch the ball or the basket ring

688
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: when the ball is sitting on or rolling on the ring. Well,

689
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: the ball wasn't doing that off Curry shot. Yeah, it

690
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: was dropping through. A player shall shall not vibrate the rim,

691
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: net or backboard as to cause the ball to make

692
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: an unnatural bounce. Now that would I guess you could

693
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: try and convince yourself. Oh no, they they vibrated it

694
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: either one of them, but they vibrated. The ref said

695
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: not enough or didn't and then a player shall not

696
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: touch the rim, net or ball while the ball is

697
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: in the net. Of course the ball was not yet

698
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: in the net. So yeah, this was just a very

699
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: weird ending. And even after the ending, people were like, well,

700
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: what was the call or what was overturned? Did they

701
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: negate it because Giddy touched it first and then Draymond

702
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: touched it? Did it actually not have anything to do

703
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: with it? Because within the rule book, if it didn't

704
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: change the shot, then it doesn't really matter. Just fascinating

705
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: stuff here for the siccos.

706
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like at one point Draymond was

707
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: even credited with the basket.

708
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: Well yeah, right, what's right because of the Giddy in interference. Yeah,

709
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: and then he would have been closest, but I think

710
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: that was not Yeah, if that wasn't true.

711
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Now it's down in the in the record books as

712
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: a Steph Curry game winner, perhaps the most anticlimactric game

713
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: winner we've ever seen. It was like twenty minutes for

714
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: them to actually figure this out. But uh, has this

715
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: never happened before that there was such a gentle touch

716
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: on the rim. That's it didn't come up.

717
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 2: That's what I don't get.

718
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I thought if you touched it at all,

719
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: they were calling that thing off.

720
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: But okay, apparently if the ball is above the cylinder, yeah,

721
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be on the rim. That's what

722
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: we always thought.

723
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, apparently the right call as written, and

724
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: it felt like the right call as well, Like it

725
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: did feel like neither Giddy or Draymond affected the shot

726
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: going in at all, so play on. Unfortunately it wasn't

727
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: actually a play on. You know, it probably would have

728
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: been thirty years ago before instant replay, but or I

729
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: guess they would have called it off and that wouldn't

730
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: have gotten it back because they did call basket interference. Right,

731
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: this is the way it should be. Not that you

732
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: should be able to touch the rim. You should be

733
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: able to touch the rim feb style, but at least

734
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: if the SHOT's going in, let's enjoy a made shot

735
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: rather than ref mode.

736
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really really strange, but I'm with you. I think

737
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: in the end the correct result. It was just really perplexing.

738
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't think they did that great a job of

739
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: explaining it, nor like I just went through I don't

740
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: think even us sort of hold on, that's not the rule.

741
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: I thought as soon as you touched it it was,

742
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: you know, interference, But I guess not, and I'm okay

743
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: with it. If you don't change the shot, now you

744
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: do get in. So the problem where it's like subjective,

745
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: it's like, well, how much was vibrating? Yeah, exactly. We

746
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: gotta put some uh yeah, I don't know, some sort

747
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: of thing on the rim to see how much it's vibrating.

748
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Like that's what I'm looking for. Yeah, what they use

749
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: for earthquakes. Yeah, but not enough, not a lot. And

750
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: what a shot from Curry. Okay, So let us know

751
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: of whether you agree or disagree that that was a

752
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: loser of the weekend.

753
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Pretty high scoring game there though. Buckets were had, Yeah,

754
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: buckets were had.

755
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: What do you got for another loser?

756
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Loser of the weekend goes to whoever painted the Denver

757
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: Nuggets court. I don't think I've ever seen this before.

758
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: The Nuggets had a misplaced three point line ahead of

759
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: their matchup with the Dallas Mavericks. This is the Nuggets

760
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: five to eight zero ist court, which had its three

761
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: point line painted what it looks about.

762
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: A foot too far.

763
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah from the who Apparently Grant Williams noticed this and

764
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: shoot around. Of course he was willing to tell somebody

765
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: about it, the perfect guy to find it. They repainted

766
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: this line in time for the game, but as you

767
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: can see, still some remnants of the line. The two teams, though,

768
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: apparently we're fine with the repainted line combined to shoot

769
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: seventy or thirty for seventy two from three combined forty

770
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: one shot six percent from outside. But yeah, this is

771
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: weird that they botched the painting of the court.

772
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the.

773
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: First thing I thought was I read that zach Low

774
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: article and there was a lot of talk about how

775
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: fast they got these things done.

776
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well there was even too fast. Buried within

777
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: that article, there was something like two of the teams

778
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: had yet to do their courts. Remember that. It was

779
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: something like that two or three teams were like right

780
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: up against it was this one of the courts.

781
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm imagining we've had a lot of double

782
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: checking going on over the weekend, because, like we'd said earlier,

783
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: we still got another twenty something courts to see and

784
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: see how far their lines are. The other thing I

785
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: thought of was, remember Denver had like massive rim problems

786
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: last year when they had to it's like forty five

787
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: minutes to fix their slightly tilted rims. What's going on

788
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: in paull Arina.

789
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: It's a mile high altitude.

790
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I get fat villa here. Yeah, that was a measure twice.

791
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: I paint once. I do love like like these guys,

792
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: these athletes as NBA players, like they're so in tune

793
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: with everything, Like Grant Williams can step out there and

794
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: probably take three shots and go, now, something's wrong. This

795
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: is too far. Yeah. But then but it was funny

796
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: because like I saw the comments. He's like, well, I

797
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe it's like the weird color of the

798
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: court now, the sight lines now because of like he

799
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: was like trying to figure out, like what's going on here?

800
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel right until they I guess measured and like,

801
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: oh yeah it's a foot too long. Yeah, good call, man,

802
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: thanks for catching that.

803
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, it probably hasn't happened at any

804
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: other of the arenas that have at least had their

805
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: courts out because somebody would notice. Somebody always notices if

806
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: it's like a the rim is off a quarter of

807
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: a centimeter. Yeah, they know right away, but I didn't

808
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: see Tyrese Halliburton was complaining that he thought the Pacers

809
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: court was slipperar.

810
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: That because of the paint.

811
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, also does paint dry that fast? Paint and lacquer

812
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I heard the coaches were worrying that

813
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: there's gonna be blue footprint, yes, which would about awesome.

814
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: I was immediately reminded with this Nuggets misplaced three point

815
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: line of the Was it a Snicker's commercial where the

816
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: guy paints chefs in the Kansas City chefs?

817
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

818
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: I love that commercial. Classic forgets the eye. It's the

819
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chefs. But they got it fixed and like

820
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: you said, it didn't have an effect on it.

821
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: Maybe they moved it closer. They're like, we'll give them,

822
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: We'll give them a few more inches.

823
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: Wow wow, I thought about that all right. And final

824
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: one here loser of the weekend. This one is unfortunate,

825
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: but I'm giving it to the New Orleans Pelicans because

826
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: this team, man, they can't catch a break. On Sunday,

827
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: the Pelicans announced that guard C. J. McCollum has been

828
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: diagnosed with a small collapse.

829
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: Long.

830
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: Wow, we were showing you right away that McCollum taking

831
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: it in stride in good spirits, commenting on the choice

832
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: of photo for some Twitter aggregation. That's an insane pick

833
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: to post me grabbing my chest there because yeah, small

834
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: collapsed lung. He will undergo additional examination in the next

835
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: forty eight hours here to determine the progress of healing.

836
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: This is the second time in McCollum's NBA career that

837
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: he has suffered this collapsed lung. Happened in twenty twenty

838
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: one when he was part of the Blazers. He missed

839
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: seventeen games over five or six weeks there due to

840
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: the same injury. But man, like, I say the Pelicans

841
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: as a loser here because it's like they can't they

842
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: can't get their three guys all playing at the same time,

843
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: Zion Brandon Ingram and McCollum and CJ was having a

844
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: great year basically twenty two points per game, five boards,

845
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: six assists, forty four percent shooting from the floor, thirty

846
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: eight percent from deep. And now, I mean, I hope

847
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: it's a quick recovery. I don't think it's I don't

848
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: think it's super super severe, even though it sounds like

849
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: one of those crazy things like small collapse long. Oh

850
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: my god, but he should be able to come back,

851
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: but how long will it take? Just sucks for the Pels.

852
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks for the Pels and they're going to

853
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: start having some serious math problems here because I saw

854
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Will Gillery at The Athletic mentioned that with CJ going

855
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: out with his collapse lung, the Pelicans are now going

856
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: to be missing their top five players in three pointers

857
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: made from last season, McCollums out, Trey Murphy's out, Jose Alvarado,

858
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: Naji Marshall, and then Devonte Graham has left the team since,

859
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: so it's going to be a lot of twos. You know,

860
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram lives in the mid range, Zion lives at

861
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: the rim. Valentunas is a post up guy. That's a

862
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: tough way to play in the NBA these days, just

863
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: because the other teams are probably gonna make fifteen threes

864
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: and it's quite likely New Orleans doesn't get there. You

865
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: also wonder who's playing point guard for this team. CJ

866
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: was kind of handling the ball the most for him.

867
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's like Dyson Daniels, who's an unproven guy. Kyra

868
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: Lewis junior, also unproven. Maybe point Zion is what we're

869
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: going to be seeing here for a little bit.

870
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pelicans ranked twenty fourth in the league and

871
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: three pointers made per game twenty third in percentage. That's

872
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: with CJ playing, So yeah, now you take him out,

873
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: that's a lot of three point attempts gone makes. Obviously

874
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: percentage Poaly dips. They're sort of lucky. Matt Ryan's been

875
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: a nice addition for them, Like that's like, that's by

876
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: far their best shooter sort of in the lineup now

877
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: with all of the injuries. But yeah, it sucks. And again,

878
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: nice to see McCallum in good spirits there with that

879
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: photo we showed you was in basketball forever, I think,

880
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: with him grabbing literally his chest and he's like, what

881
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: the hell, man, come on, there's like a million photos

882
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: of me. You had to use that the headshot would

883
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: be fine. Yeah, totally, totally, but in good spirits. It

884
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: seems like anyone else on the short list for Losers

885
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 2: of the Weekend.

886
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Julius Randall had a stinker on Friday against the Bucks,

887
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: five for twenty. He's shooting twenty seven percent from the

888
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: field this season, and the Grizzlies. They did beat the

889
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers on Sunday to get their first win this season,

890
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: but they also lost to him in the IST on Friday,

891
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: so they get docked as minor losers. They would have

892
00:40:59,360 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: been major loser.

893
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: They needed that. Desmond Bayne was big. He's actually balling

894
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: this year and he's putting up a lot of points.

895
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, they finally got their first w. So everybody

896
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: in the league has at least one win, and the

897
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: only team undefeated, as we said off the top, Boston Celtics.

898
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from you guys. Who do we

899
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: miss when it comes to winners and losers of the

900
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: NBA Weekend. Let us know they're in the stream team,

901
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: tweet at us at no dunk sink or let them

902
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: or at least tweet what am I trying to say?

903
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Comment there under our YouTube bid Okay, one more break

904
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: when we come back TK with a very interesting tweet

905
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: of the night. Don't go anywhere all right here in

906
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: the Classic Factory, I asked for some more winners and

907
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 2: losers of the weekend stream team coming through with some losers. Leo,

908
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: the number one hater the ist is bad. So that's

909
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: a loser of the weekend, he says. Leo, Zach Zarba

910
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: gets a loser of the weekend. Nod the official just

911
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: for being Zach Sarba.

912
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: Was he the official for the rim touching game?

913
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: I believe so. Yes. I'm trying to picture who was

914
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: talking to me, trying to picture soul. I think it

915
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: was Zach. The Bulls sucks, as Steven my dad.

916
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no different, Stephen, h Yeah, I mean they

917
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: they look we just talked about the Pelicans math problem.

918
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: The Bulls have a big time mass. They lost that

919
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: game in the clutch against the Nets, but they lost

920
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: it because the Nets made so many more threes and

921
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: then they lost to the Nuggets because of their nugets.

922
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh, Sean that Zach was maybe for the Pascal siakam

923
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: foul at the end of the okay, okay, trying to

924
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: keep track of where Zarba is?

925
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

926
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 2: And uh who else we got? Doesn't look good for time? Lord,

927
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 2: he might have another eat knee injury here. That's not fun.

928
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: And well there was one more. Uh Andrew Wiggins. It's

929
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: off to a very slow start.

930
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he has not had a great start to

931
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: the season and disappointing performance from the Warriors for the

932
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: first time, I think against the Cats yesterday. Yeah, cats

933
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 1: looked like big boys.

934
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah it's good point. All right, let's get to tweet

935
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: of the night. Tweet of the night.

936
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Wow oh tweeted the Knights more court talk. If we

937
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: had enough court talk. I don't think so, Skeets. This

938
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: one comes to us from at Ira heat Beat. That's

939
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: Ira Winderman, who tweeted a picture of the lane of

940
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: the Heat's new Culture Court that they're going to be debuting.

941
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: I do believe tonight. Okay, it matches their Heat Culture

942
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: City edition jerseys that they're wearing. And if you're not

943
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: joining us right now on YouTube, Basically, they got a

944
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: black lane there in Miami and written in red. Hardest working,

945
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: best conditioned, most professional, unselfish, unselfish, toughest, meanest, nastiest team

946
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Shout out to our guy, Alex Wong.

947
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: This is the live laugh love of quarts literally word

948
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: art in the middle of the lane.

949
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you though,

950
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: or sorry that happens.

951
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: Not sure.

952
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: That's a lot of words, A lot of words. Yeah,

953
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: I can't say I like it. It's uh, you know,

954
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: I saw other people comparing it to h It was

955
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: a while ago now, but remember somebody showed up to

956
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: an NBA game with like the most words ever on

957
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: a sign. I think it was about Lebron like being

958
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: a crybaby, had like thousand words on this thing. So

959
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: similar to that. But yeah, they are Hey, look they

960
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: ran with the Heat Culture, didn't they? I guess Yeah.

961
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: Their jerseys are the T L d R. Yes, you

962
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: want the full definition check the floorboards.

963
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. People also joking that the Thunder should do the same,

964
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: but with all of their first round draft picks, just

965
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: list them all there in the paint. I saw that

966
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 2: going around Twitters, people having fun with this, and people

967
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: were like, where did this come from? Like is this

968
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: a like is this an actual quote? Like do they is?

969
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: You know what? And what have you found out? We

970
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: went deep into the archives. We searched for this quote

971
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: in many different forms. We found it in a Heat

972
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: Culture fan video that we filmed outside of the Cassea

973
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: Center last year. We thought, wow, did we create this court? No,

974
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: we did, because then we also found a clip of

975
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: Keith Askins saying basically this exact court talking about the

976
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: Miami heat Oh wait, it wasn't Keith Askins either. Turns

977
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: out it was pat Riley talking about the nineteen nineties

978
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: New York Knicks. This mantra for pat Riley, and he's

979
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: taking it with him everywhere. Right now.

980
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: This was about the painted but it's of course about

981
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: the heat motes. And now it's in the paint.

982
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, now it's in the paint. Yeah. You

983
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: think we'll see like a shot of somebody at the

984
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: free throw line looking down and reading it, you know,

985
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: like you always see guys looking up at the scoreboard,

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: up at the jumbo trying to see the call. Somebody's

987
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna be curious. Yeah, well, hey, wait a second, that's us.

988
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, JDQ, throw it back up because I want to

989
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: see first off, if we get charge just outside the circle,

990
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: like they're gonna be like no, no, I was on

991
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: nastiest I.

992
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Have my feet on the I E.

993
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: And we were just, you know, in Losers of the

994
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: Weekend talking about the poor guy that you know, incorrectly

995
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: painted the three point line for Denver mentioned the pressure

996
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 2: painting this. Oh my god, I would like go over

997
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: every word like a hundred times, and then you look

998
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: at the words so many times you're like, is that

999
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: how you spelled? Professional? You know where you start doing that,

1000
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: You're like, I've spelled it a million times correctly in

1001
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: my life. But now because I'm putting it, you know,

1002
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: to paint in the in the paint?

1003
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: Is it one?

1004
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: F is it too?

1005
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

1006
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: Boy? And like your triple quadruple checking. But I don't

1007
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: see any spelling mistake.

1008
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: I think they nailed it. Yeah, okay, looks grammatically correct

1009
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: as well.

1010
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: Man, so much court talk. Yeah, it's wild.

1011
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: He got a lot of quarts because they had they

1012
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: had a red one over the weekend and that was

1013
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. They got a gray middle maybe something like that.

1014
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I got it all man, and all the words in

1015
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: the world. All right, I'm glad we got that in.

1016
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: Are you a fan of that? And uh? I mean

1017
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: that's a whole segment right there. Come up with other mottos,

1018
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: I guess, mantras that other teams could put in to

1019
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: their paint. What's in your paint?

1020
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: Capital one? What's in your paint?

1021
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: Brought to you? But what about Sherwin Williams? That's it?

1022
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah?

1023
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: Is there a Benjamin Moore? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Bear Bear paints,

1024
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: bear paints. Well, we know a lot about paints, are

1025
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: you don't. I don't know.

1026
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: Sherwin Williams.

1027
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: That's a classic.

1028
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sherwin Williams got a sick logo. I'd like to

1029
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: see that one paint covering the earth.

1030
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that is cool. Hopefully they still have it.

1031
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: All right, let's call it there. Make sure you check

1032
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: out the brand new episode of Is This Good? Mattie

1033
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 2: O and JD talking to Maggie Sirota of Spin.

1034
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

1035
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 2: They talked about a lot of things, not that court,

1036
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't believe. They talked about poorly engineered pizza singers

1037
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: forcing crowds to belt out the chorus reading a lot,

1038
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: owning a bar, a whole lot. More on Is This Good?

1039
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: So go check that out. Itg with its own podcast

1040
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: feeds on YouTube feed and then tonight final reminder join

1041
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: us at around seven to thirty pm Eastern Time on

1042
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: playback James Harden's Clippers debut, I Am the System and

1043
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: a bunch of other games. Twelve games on a Monday night,

1044
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: so we'll be bouncing around on playback. Clever bro Sure,

1045
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: JD you heard it here first. Have a great time,

1046
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: turn up.

1047
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: Love you guys.

1048
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: Awesome JD. Let's to get the hell out of here. Eh,

1049
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: you're really rushing through things today. I respect it. You

1050
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: got a lot of shows this week.

1051
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: I keep it tight.

1052
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll try and keep it tight. Thanks for joining us.

1053
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: Smash that light button, leave you boys a five star

1054
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: rating and review for your podcast listener, and we will

1055
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: see you tonight, hopefully on playback or here in the

1056
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: Classic Factory tomorrow. Final words.

1057
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: You hear a lot about yesterday and yesteryear, but never

1058
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Yester week or Yester month. The Hawks are zero and two.

1059
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: Yester week sounds dope. There's a reason we asked, really,

1060
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: don't I got it in though.

1061
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people, m