1 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey. So that was my attempt at a 2 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: somber Hey hey hey. 3 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: I was gonna go like, hey, guys, we're here again. 4 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: It's America, America, America. We're actually gonna go on. I'm 5 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: just speaking for the country now. We're just gonna go 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: on like a six week vacation. We're gonna go to 7 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: like France or something like. 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot is happening. I'm like what. Like I 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: was in Atlanta. I was speaking at like on a 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: panel in Atlanta, and my publicis, Drina, was like what 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: she was showing me? Like, I just I wasn't fully focused, 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: but she's showing me pictures of these men with tiki torches, 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what, what's going on? She kept saying, 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe what's happening in Charlotte. So I can't 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: believe what's happening in Charlotte. But so I didn't. I 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: wasn't fully uh focused until like I looked for myself 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, what this was just the night 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: that they that they went on to. What's the campus 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: of the college. What's the college? 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: I actually don't know. It's the University of Virginia. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: I think, so but I was like, wait, so, how 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: are they allowed on college campuses with like, you know, 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: it was weird because you know, it was kind of 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: like this juxtaposing like they've got like citronella Tigi torches, 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: but their faces were very serious with anger and I 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: guess rage or whatever. 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a college campus, I 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: think they were. They were there protesting. I don't know, 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: they were just protesting their removal of some civil War statue. 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was It's well, they said they marched 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: through the University of Virginia. I'm Friday Night, okay, yeah, 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: chanting you will not replace us. There's one guy in particular, 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: like everyone seeing his feel like if you see his face, 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: I guess you know, he was not expecting to be 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: kind of like the poster boy for this, but his 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: face was like a photographer took his picture, and I 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: think the New York Post kind of like ran the 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: story and it was like three guys, but his face 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: was the one that was kind of contorted with the 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: most rage. And after I guess they must have found 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: him and reached out to him. He was like, oh, no, 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, that was not my intention. We're not hateful. 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: We're not racist. We just and it was just so 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: strange because you could tell that he was now that 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: he was like being outed. You know, it was like 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it was always backtracking of like oh, no, no, no, 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: we don't we don't hate anyone. We just want to 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: preserve our culture as well. We think everyone should have 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: a culture. I'm like, really, cuz that's not what it 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: looked like. 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: I read they were chanting white lives matter, Jews will 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: not replace us, you will not make I mean to 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: backtrack like that. There's some they had some balls though. 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean, if they go home to jobs and their 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: jobs aren't firing them right now. I also want to 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: know what I haven't gotten a good sense of is 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: exactly how many people there were this on their side 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: at this rally. I think that's important too. But someone 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: someone I was talking to about it said, well, you know, 60 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: it's really just a small group of people, and I 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: and I and I agree that we need to like 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: be we need to be getting the full picture, you know, 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: was it. I think it's hard in this situation because 64 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: it's it's it's easy to for the media to sort 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: of make it look like there's just so so so 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: many people. I wouldn't be surprised if they were outnumbered 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: by counter protesters. But at the same time, yeah, the. 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: Next day, what you mean the next day, I don't think. 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: I think that evening it was kind of took everyone 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: by surprise, so they were like, wait what. And then 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: the next day, I guess, I don't know if there 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: was it was the same group, but the next day 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: there was like, a guess, a bigger display, like a rally, 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: and that's when the counter protesters kind of you're right, 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: it seems like they outnumbered them. But it was well, I. 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: Finished real quick because I didn't want to belittle it 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: by saying there weren't that many, But I just what 78 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to say was there aren't. It is a 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: small It probably is a very small group of people, 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: but it's still The issue is that they feel like 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: they're in a safe place right now, where it's okay 82 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: to be out in the streets without even with you know, 83 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: completely with these stupid tiki torches. Yeah, they feel like 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: this is their time, you know, And there's only one 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: reason they feel like this is our time. It's because 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: because of our president. Yeah, it's because of their president 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: and the fact that he was limited by this al 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: right movement. 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: And they said it liked David Duke, right, wasn't he 90 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: like the former president of the KKK or whatever. He said, 91 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is we're fulfilling the promises that forty 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: five put before us and why we elected him. We are, 93 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: you know here because you know, we're taking back what 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: you know is quote unquote ours And there was a 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: letter solid that O'Brien tweeted this letter. She was like, 96 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: if you think this is not connected to the president anyway, 97 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: let's be clear. She was like, so, I guess the 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: letter went out like to the their whatever, socialist nationalist 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: group whatever, saying hey, brother's like, you know, don't because 100 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Donald the president said basically like oh, we have to 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: all come together as one or whatever. Some people were 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: on the alt right were angry with him, and they 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: were like, no, don't be angry. If you notice he 104 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't condemn us, it's very clear he's letting us know secretly. Hey, 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Like it was so scary, and I 106 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, he's right, he didn't condemn Like, 107 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy times. 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: There's hatred and bigotry on all sides, he said, on many, 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: many sides, many sides, but in this specific instant, mister dufis, 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: there's there's one type of hatred and bickering bigotry from 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: one side. It's very, very apparent they're literally waving signs 112 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: that say who they are and what they stand for. 113 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: And the fact that he was in the fact that 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: this statement came from his private golf course in New 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: Jersey and doesn't even have the kohones to call it 116 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: what it is, to call racism racism, And then the 117 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: next day when that car crash happened and what three 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: people died, to call terrorism terrorism? 119 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 120 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: It just like but I mean I want to we're 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: not crazy. We all have eyes now, we all have 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: eyes phones, we can call it. I think it's important 123 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: that we're all calling it what it is, yeah, and 124 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: not shying a wht shying away from it. I mean, 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: even some of his supporters are like, come on, dude, 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: let's just call I think Ivanka even tweeted that it 127 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: was that, you know, against the white supremacy. 128 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 129 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: I haven't seen anyone though, call it terrorism. What happened 130 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: the next day when a white man, and it's still 131 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: not clearly exactly who he is, but there was there's 132 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: one headline saying that he was definitely a neo Nazi sympathizer. 133 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: But because he's a white man, it's like, oh, let's 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: just you know, let's wait till the facts are in 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: before we call it terrorism. 136 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: You know, of course, because you know, we don't. We 137 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: can't jump to the gun, like that would be totally unfair. 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: Like can you imagine if that was replace all those 139 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: white men with black men with torches? Can you imagine? 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we would have Ferguson, Like I there was this 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: awesome repost that I reposted. It was like, so we're 142 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: all the riot gear. Where's all the tear gas and 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: rubber bullets and and and and you know, scary police 144 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: dressed to the nines and they're right, you're asking for 145 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: a friend and standing rock and Ferguson like, because when 146 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: brown folks were protesting, and you know, it was a 147 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: total completely different energy that you brought. There were there 148 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: were videos where I saw the terrorists, white supremacists pushing 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: the police line back. Where where could that happen? In Ferguson, 150 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: that a bunch of brown folks could push the police 151 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: line back and it's and nothing happened. I couldn't even 152 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: believe it. I was like wow, Like for people who 153 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: want to be like like purposefully obtuse and pretend as 154 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: if there is no difference, I'm like, there's like whatever, 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: do like I it just really you know, it's like 156 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I remember when the president when when President Barack Obama 157 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: was elected and folks were just like, oh, you brown, 158 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: you could finally stop complaining there's no more racism. Now 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: there's a black president, and we're like, are you kidding me? 160 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that there's no more Racist's not how 161 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: racism works, you know that, Like just because a black 162 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: man is elected president, it doesn't mean that there's still 163 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: not systematic racism and there's still not racism out there. 164 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: And now we see that it's I mean just because 165 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: it's not it wasn't flagrantly obvious. Then now we see 166 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: like none of that has none of that went away. 167 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: If anything, it seemed like it increased it. Did you 168 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: see the interview when they interviewed the young man who 169 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the terrorists that ran into the people, They interviewed his mother. No, yeah, Yahoo, 170 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Actually you're an ex employee, if you're They interviewed his 171 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: mother and was it Katie? She was is that her name? 172 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: No, Katie, I know she's down there right now. 173 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, I think it was. I didn't see video. 174 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: I just saw, like you know, it's like a picture. 175 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, he told me that he was 176 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: going to go protest. I told him to be careful 177 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and to like not be super political. And she was like, 178 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, I don't think he's racist. I 179 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: mean he had a black friend. I was like, are 180 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: you yah, are you kidding me? And so I was 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: just like yeah, so yeah, well you're We'll see what 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: happens to him. That's what I'm going to be curious about, 183 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: not that you've killed three people. Oh. 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll have a fair trial. I'm sure it'll 185 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: be a whole question. Are they going to indict him? 186 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: Are they going to maybe he just you know, had 187 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: road rage or like maybe his hit, maybe his foot 188 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: slipped on the pedal, who knows. I was reading some 189 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: of the things that they were saying about how you know, 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: we're not racist, We're just trying to, you know, better 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: our lives, and we just want to we were more 192 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: about protecting ours our place, not bringing others down. And 193 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, but that's the very definition of racism, when 194 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: you're preservation is more important than someone else's. 195 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: Like what, Yo, It's so crazy to me because I'm like, 196 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: do you realize that the times that you quote unquote 197 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: want to go back to were bad times for everyone 198 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: else that was not white? Like? And they're like really 199 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: not even really, but yes, So you're saying, I want 200 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: to go back to the times when black people can't vote, 201 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: when you know brown people couldn't you know, didn't have 202 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: the same rights. I mean, you want to go back 203 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: to that time and preserve that part of history. And 204 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: you're saying, why can't we just go back to having less? 205 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: And like what are you really? Like? What what are 206 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: you really marching for? I'm sorry, are you not getting 207 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: certain jobs? Are you being followed in stores? So? Like, 208 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: what what is the harm that's being done to you? 209 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm just like, you couldn't 210 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: live one day as brown one day because someone is 211 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: taking out a statue. 212 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: Well, you know the only way that the lever I mean, 213 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: they're never going to get it. I mean, the people 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: of this are gone. I have to say again, it's 215 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: a small group of people, but I think it's the 216 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,359 Speaker 2: ones in the who aren't out there. It's necessarily protesting, 217 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: but they're doing it in their own small ways every day. 218 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: You know. 219 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: I think I'm reading the most perfect book for this 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: moment at the perfect time. I've been reading Americana for 221 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: the last month, trying to get through it. Have you 222 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: read it? If you haven't read it. 223 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Now, I've read her book before that Half a Yellow Sez. 224 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so good. 225 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: It's funny. I haven't read it. It's a big book, 226 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: not big, but it's like, you know, it's not a 227 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: quick read, but it's really good, and it's about it's 228 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: partially about a woman's experience coming from Nigeria to America 229 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: and acclin becoming you know. I think I spends like 230 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: over a decade here and just her story of immigrating 231 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: and then the challenges she went through and like establishing 232 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: a life for her here. But then she also starts 233 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: this blog while she's here, which is about the non 234 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: black experience in America, and it's sort of and it's 235 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: but anyway, it feels like it was. I think this 236 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: book came in twenty thirteen. It feels like the Solange 237 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: album of books right now. Some of her blog posts, 238 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: you know, there was one specifical way about oppression and 239 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: like can you imagine or not oppression, but about how 240 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: when someone's telling you something is racist to a person 241 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: who's non black, when someone's telling you who is black 242 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 2: or brown, if they're telling you something is racist, don't 243 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: deny them. Why would you deny them. It's not like 244 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: they're I mean, it's almost like that they they they 245 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: don't want to they don't want to admit to themselves 246 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: that it's real. So they tell you what you're seeing 247 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: isn't real, or you're overreacting, van dramatic, and I think 248 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: right now, it's just it's just what's been beautiful to 249 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: me is to see everyone sort of rally together and 250 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: be like to affirm what we're all seeing and to 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: affirm that what we're all feeling and that it's it's valid. 252 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: We're not crazy. 253 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: And you can't tell us, you can't convince this we're crazy. 254 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: It ain't. 255 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: Yah. 256 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Finally, it ain't. That's changed, right because I remember, like 257 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: the only like refuse you used to have were your 258 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: other brown friends. Like we I'm not I'm not crazy, right, 259 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: like she was following me right cause there would be times. 260 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: I can remember when we first moved to Westfield, which 261 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: is largely white, a huge Jewish population, and like I 262 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: remember we moved there. When you moved there, you get 263 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: like a welcome kid. I didn't know this until I 264 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: got a little older, but my mom had gotten like 265 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: all these coupons and like, you know, coming because basically 266 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: they wanted you to come down down Westfield and get 267 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: acclimated and spend money. So she'd gone. And when she'd 268 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: gone downtown when she brought the coupons, people acted like, 269 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: where do you where'd you get these from? We're not 270 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: honoring these. And I didn't know that. It wasn't until 271 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I was like in sixth grade and I was like 272 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: going downtown like for the first time. It was like 273 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I had been he had lived there for a year 274 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: and I'd gone downtown with one of my friends and 275 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: she I was walking in a store and the lady 276 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: followed me like asle by Aisle. At first, it took 277 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: me a while to recognize it. I'm like, she followed me. 278 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, but asle by Aisle, she's following me, 279 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: and I just assumed because I was still really young. 280 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, because I'm a kid, she thinks 281 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to steal. And then my friends came in 282 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: and they were loud and obnoxious and like running through 283 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: the aisles, and she continued my friends were all white, 284 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: and she continued to follow me. And it took me 285 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: a moment and I'm just looking like wait, and I 286 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: walked up to her and I said, why are you 287 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: following me? She just looked at me and she's like, 288 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: why are you in my store? And I was like 289 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: and then like the realization kind of came over me, 290 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, are you following me? Cause I'm black? 291 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: And she just said get out of my store. And 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: I was like, i was heartbroken because that never happened. 293 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm like a kid, you know. So I go home 294 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and I'm crying. I tell my mother and she told 295 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: me about her experiences with the coupons, and do you know, 296 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: to this day, my mother has never shot downtown Westfield ever. 297 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: She said, I will never. And I just thought, like, 298 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: but then if you were to tell that someone, oh, 299 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: well girl, that's because no, that's not why, Like, don't 300 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: tell me I'm crazy, like this is what's that's this 301 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: is what's happening. And so that's the part that's really 302 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: disheartening is when you know you're checking yourself like am 303 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: I overreacting? Am I? You know, and even telling yourself 304 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: like maybe I am, but really seeing it and seeing 305 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: it over and over and over again, where now I'm 306 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: just like whatever. Like to me, the small group of 307 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: men that were there, that's not what worries me. It's 308 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: the big group behind them that supports that but wouldn't 309 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: carry a torch probably exactly. You know. It's their wives, 310 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: their girlfriends, is their friends who don't say anything, you know. 311 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like if. 312 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: You can't sit, if you can't watch that footage or 313 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: read what the story about what's happening in Charlotte's Fell 314 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: and say, of course that's racism, of course that's a terrorism, 315 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: then you're complicit and what's going on. I mean, love, 316 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: what is it? In Action is just as bad as 317 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: action in some ways. There's some quote about that which 318 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: I can't remember right now, but that's essentially the gist 319 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, group, Yeah, another wins a moment. 320 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Seven, Speaking of brown folks getting shafted. So did you 321 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: see the video I posted? So a friend of mine lovey. 322 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Y'all know her. We've had her on as again. She's awesome. 323 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: She has a New York Times bestseller. 324 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: So I'm judging. 325 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm really yes, I'm judging you, which you should go read. 326 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: But so, right before the book came out. 327 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: We did. I think it was like last year's time. Yeah, 328 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: so her book from almost the very beginning became a 329 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller, and her publishers have been obviously 330 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: printing copies, and she's been telling them like, hey, where's 331 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: my where's my New York Times bestseller? Like stamp stick 332 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: or whatever on my book? Because you could put you 333 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: reprint them. Obviously you want to say that, because it's 334 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: like a proven statistic that books that say New York 335 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Times bestsellers sell more, right, And so I think she 336 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: she she her first run or whatever, she sold like 337 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: sixty six thousand copies something like that, and so they 338 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: just recently, just recently, like less than a week ago 339 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, reprinted fifty thousand copies without without the New 340 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: York Times bestseller. She was like, what the hell? And 341 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: she she did a Facebook live talking about like, what's 342 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: really going on? Because even when her first I remember 343 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: when her book came out, she was writing cryptic messages like, 344 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: y'all really have to support me because I'm not getting 345 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: support with my publisher as far as marketing and this 346 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: and that. Because typically publishers, when they have books that 347 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: come out, they usually have one book that they really 348 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: put their energy behind and the other one's kind of 349 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: fair fend for themselves. So hers was not the suspective. 350 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 1: They didn't expect her book to do as well. But 351 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: her book did very well, and so but she never 352 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: felt like she kind of had the support and then 353 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: for them to reprint. So if you sold sixty six 354 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: thousand in your prime, do you know how long to 355 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: tell her to sell through fifty thousand? How long does 356 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: it take her to sell through fifty thousand before they 357 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: can reprint another cover that says New York Time's bestsellers, 358 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: And how much money she's missing out on Because seeing 359 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: that on a book, if you don't know the author, 360 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: would make you at least pick it up to read 361 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: the back of it, right, And so, so she you know, 362 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: she expressed her frustrations because she's already spoken to them, 363 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: and went to Facebook to express her frustrations and some 364 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: other writers and older woman and a few other writers 365 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I think, like kind of like clack back, and they're like, oh, 366 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: you're so entitled and you should just be happy that 367 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: you had a New York Times bestseller and you know 368 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: that's what they tell you. But she's like, so entitled 369 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: means wanting something I did not earn. I earned my 370 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: spot on the New York Times bestsellers. So all I'm 371 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: asking is that my book reflects what I earned. I'm 372 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: not asking for more. I'm not, you know. And I 373 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: just thought like, it's just so curious that when women 374 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: stand up for themselves, cause I'm sure it was not 375 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: easy to demand and say, what the hell this is 376 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: not okay? 377 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: Don't they want her book to sell? Isn't it in 378 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: their interests? The publishers make like ninety five percent of 379 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: the money when I'm. 380 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: So honestly exactly. And that's why she's like, I don't 381 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: understand what's going on here. They're like, this has never 382 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: happened before. You know, we've you know, this is I'm sorry, 383 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: this is a huge mistake. We've ever made this mistake before. 384 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: And she's like yeah, but we've been like I've been 385 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller. This is our this is 386 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: her seventh. They're in her seventh reprint, So this is 387 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: not like how many times can that mistake be made 388 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: before you're like, something intentional is happening. This is not 389 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: reprint number one, two, three, four, five, it's reprint. 390 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: Seven, so nine actually, so it's even worse. 391 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow wow, So it's like, what's really happening when 392 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I don't honestly, I 393 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I could not tell you why a publisher 394 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: would not put that on there after they've been requested, 395 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: but she's had issues with them before, and so I 396 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: don't know honestly. But it's it's important, and it's not 397 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: easy because you know, people will call you a troublemaker. 398 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: People will say that, you know, like how dare you 399 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: speak up for yourself? People you know, will say you're entitled? 400 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: Can you imagine entitled? Basically, it's like saying, hey, I 401 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: bought a hamburger. I gave you five dollars and you 402 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't give me a hamburger, and I'm like, hey, where's 403 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: my hamburger? And someone saying, well, gird. Just be glad 404 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: that you're even able to eat, Like, but no, but 405 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: I but I bought a hamburger. Why can't I expect 406 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: to eat that? And Yeah, So I'm just proud of 407 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: her for standing up because I know it's not easy, 408 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are still people who are rolling 409 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: their eyes, like, oh boy, you're complaining. But at least 410 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: you got New York Times bestseller. Yeah, but that's a huge, 411 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: huge accomplishment that I'm sure ninety nine percent of authors 412 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: never get. Why shouldn't her book reflect that? And then too, 413 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: it's a monetary loss that she's losing. 414 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: And they're losing it. Just I mean, I understand all 415 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: everything she's saying, but I mean, like I feel like, 416 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: one thing that you can one thing that that over 417 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: that that outweighs sexism and racism in any industry is money. 418 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 2: And if they seem to make more money, why are 419 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: like they're idiots, They're dumb, dumb, dumb. I don't know. 420 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it seems mutually beneficial to have a book. 421 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: They should be proud of publishing a New York Times 422 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: bestseller book. They are shooting themselves in the foot. But 423 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: I hope she gets. I hope maybe Shonda Rhimes will 424 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: buy all fifty thousand copies and then she'll get to 425 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: print another cop another round with stickers. I don't know, yeah, 426 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: I know, she said in the video she can't just 427 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: go buy stickers and stick them on the books herself. 428 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: So then I was I was immediately imagining like a 429 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: group effort, like why. 430 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: A human chain of stickering on books because I was 431 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: thinking that, yeah, but I just and it's hard to 432 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: stand up for yourself because it's women, you know, Like 433 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: when she first went live about it, I was cringing 434 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: because the. 435 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Good girl in me was like no, because you know, 436 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: that's what you're taught. You don't make waves, you don't 437 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: ask for what you deserve. You take what people give you. 438 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: And then the other part of the warrior in me 439 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: was like go because like at the you know, it's 440 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: like if you have to learn to say something, it's 441 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: it's not easy. Like I was telling my sister because 442 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: she was having trouble where she's working, and I said, 443 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna wait until you have a nervous breakdown? 444 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: Like is that what you're is that what you're waiting for? 445 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Are you gonna wait until you're so overwhelmed that you 446 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: literally cannot move. And so I said, or are you 447 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: going to say something? But what can they do? I 448 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I told her, I don't know what they 449 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: can do. But I know that saying nothing gets you nothing, 450 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: and it's so hard for It's like good girl syndrome. Well, 451 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to say I could do it. I 452 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: figure it out. No, you have to learn to speak 453 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: up for yourself and say something. There's nothing wrong with that. 454 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: I give my dad a lot of credit. I mean 455 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: his his He always taught me it's okay to complain 456 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 2: when something isn't right, or something that you something you 457 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: worked for or bought or whatever wasn't to your standards. Now, okay, 458 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I should I should clarify that by saying 459 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: this usually has to do with like Wendy's hamburgers, like 460 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: if there weren't enough guys or if the burger was 461 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: too cold, he would eat about half of it and 462 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: then have no problem going but to the calendar and 463 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: asking for the rest of it, or asking for like 464 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: a brand new one. But I've taken that and I 465 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: and I have become the person in my life who 466 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: is the first one, you know, after my wedding, even 467 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: when I wasn't happy with the flowers and I wasn't 468 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: happy with some things that that uh the DJ I mean, 469 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: I had a gorgeous, perfect wedding and a lot of 470 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: people made me feel like I was acting out of 471 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: line by going back and telling them what I felt 472 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: could have been better. And I was like, why should 473 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: I've I spent thousands? Why should I feel bad for 474 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: telling them? They must stu Yes, in the whole picture, 475 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: it was beautiful, and I'm very grateful, but don't they 476 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: want to be better in service? And don't they need 477 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: to know what I what I thought could have been 478 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 2: better and wasn't up to standards with what I and 479 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean as I was typing and even I felt 480 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: guilty even after, and I was like, but why why 481 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: do I feel this way? And I just I you know, 482 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: I do it anyway. 483 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Now and I'm practically and I think that's where I 484 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: have like I always have like like I always have 485 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: a type of friend so like you, Drina, there's a 486 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: few other friends in my life that have like the 487 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: hood sput like that, And I know I purposefully have 488 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: friends like that because that's how my like my natural nature. 489 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh, that's okay, I just suffer. I 490 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: just suffered sound and I hate that I'm like that. 491 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: So I have folks around me who are like a girl, no, 492 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: because it emboldens me to say, you know what, no, 493 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Like look at Manny, didn't she just say, hey, this 494 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: is not what I ordered? Like I remember one time 495 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I ordered food and I got the wrong food and 496 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: I was going to eat it, and my friend's like, 497 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: are you kidding me too? For me? Are you kidding 498 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: me about what you've ordered? I was like, I know, 499 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: but I don't mind salmon. And she was like, girl, 500 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: if you don't call the waitress over, she's you don't 501 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: have to be rude. You just say, Hi, this is 502 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: not what I ordered. I don't know what it is. 503 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: I just and it's it's a habit that I want 504 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: to break. And so I surround myself with people who 505 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: are not afraid to say something. 506 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: It's just we've seen the damage. What can happen when 507 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: you don't stand up and tell people what's going even 508 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: if it's the smallest saying that's happened to you that 509 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: seems unjust or I know, it's we're talking about food again, 510 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: which seems like a small thing, but it's it's like 511 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: knowing when it matters enough to speak up and choosing 512 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: the right moments. But then I don't know. Yeah, I 513 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: think that the more you do it, the easier it gets. 514 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: I used to be so embarrassed by my dad, so 515 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: embarrassed by my dad, and I and my brother reminds 516 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: me every day how much more I'm starting to sound 517 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: like him. And uh, I'm okay with that as long 518 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 2: as I'm using it for you know, like I'm not 519 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: going to complain if I'm not going to eat half 520 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: my Windy's fries and then tell them it was cold 521 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: and can I get another one? One that's a little 522 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: shady pops. But I will, you know, if I get 523 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: the wrong word, I will speak up. Or when I 524 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: pay for service and it's not done to my to 525 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: the level of service that I was promised. Yeah, you know, 526 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: speak up. 527 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: It's a lesson for us all that you have to 528 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: say something. There's nothing wrong with saying something. There's somebody 529 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: in her comments, I forget what they said. She said, 530 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: it's called lost cool. That's what she calls it. So 531 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: she said that. So she has this theory or this 532 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: like strategy what she calls lost cool, that she always 533 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: gives people the opportunity to fix something. So if say, 534 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: you know, you go to a hotel and they're like, 535 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, your room's not ready, 536 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: but you know it's it's supposed to be ready, but 537 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: it's not. But can you allow us. We're going to 538 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: give you an upgrade and it will be ready at four, 539 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: even though it's supposed to be in your room by 540 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: you know. And she said from eleven, when she jumps 541 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: to when she was supposed to check in to four, 542 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: she'll go eat and if back four she goes, and 543 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: she's cool until then because this is what you've set 544 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: before her, that here's the solution. But after four she 545 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: calls it lost cool. That she was like, I'm no 546 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: longer cool after four because that was a timeline you 547 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: had to fix the initial mistake. And I thought, Okay, 548 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: I kind of like that, not that she's gonna wile out, 549 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: but like, now I don't have to be oh super comminating. No, 550 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: you said at this time it's gonna be done. Now 551 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: it's not done. Now this has to escalate up. Where's 552 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: your manager, right, you know? And so she calls it 553 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: lost cool, and I said, you know what, I like that? 554 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: She said, you give people the opportunity to fix things, 555 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: and they give you the timeline of when it's going 556 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: to be fixed, and after that you don't have to 557 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: be cool about it anymore. You can escalate up, you 558 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: can send a letter, you can reach out to the 559 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: next level. And I said, okay, lost cool, I'm gonna 560 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: try that. 561 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: Give them a chance, yeah, give them a chance to 562 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: fix it. Yes, oh, go ahead. 563 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, yeah, I was just agreeing with you. 564 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: I hope that if there's one industry where you have 565 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: to advocate for yourself, though, it's publishing. Everyone I know 566 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: who's everyone I know who's published books has had to 567 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: do their own pr their own She literally, like Lovey said, 568 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: she had to hire her own publicist outside of the 569 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: place Blushing House. Everyone I know who's had a book 570 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: that hasn't. I mean, I don't know any super famous authors, 571 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: but the ones, especially in the in the business world 572 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: that I know who've written books, have had to hire 573 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: their own little teams to go out there and promote 574 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: the book and tweet about it and whatnot. And so 575 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: I think that, you know, I think she shouldn't. I mean, 576 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: it's it's the way it is in a lot of ways. 577 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: I just I still can't believe that her own publisher 578 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to do the thing. I can see how 579 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to hire a publicist, because what if 580 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: you waste money on a publicist and you don't sell 581 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: the books, But by putting a sticker, you're almost guaranteed 582 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: to sell more books. Yeah, I don't hopefully she can 583 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: choose another one for book number two or you know right, 584 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: I mean that's what I would do. These people don't 585 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: want to make money, don't want to make her money, Okay. 586 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Exactly At the end of the day, I'm sure, I'm 587 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: sure there's lots of publishers that would like a New 588 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: York Times bestseller under their roster. 589 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: And I feel like she wouldn't have made that public 590 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 2: speech if they if she hadn't already taken it to them. 591 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it's all be a surprise to them 592 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: at all, Like she's probably given them the and the 593 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: lost question. 594 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: She did, Yeah, she certainly did, ye. 595 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: And still didn't And so I feel that frustration for sure, well, 596 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: we love you, Lovey. Go out and get her book. 597 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: It's called I'm Judging You Shanda Rhimes what she optioned 598 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: it for a television series. 599 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Right, yep, m hm. 600 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: It's a good read. It's a funny read. It's a 601 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: good summer read too. 602 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, funny. I like summer funny books for the summer. 603 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: Or go check out her blog if you have an 604 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: awesomely lovey. Actually I need to read her take on Charlottesville. 605 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: She's one of She's like, yeah, I love her for 606 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: the hot Yeah. 607 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is definitely good for that. 608 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: It's finely humor in it. Exactly should we boost and break? 609 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I have a unique boost Well this is 610 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm the this is on the 611 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: fed boost break. This is like a boost break. So 612 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: we'll see how how well is that? So fast? I 613 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: love that? So you know everybody has watched that documentary 614 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: on Netflix What the Health? 615 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh I haven't. 616 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh well I have not either. 617 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: Not everyone's read it, but I'm just saying. 618 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: Everyone was posting about like it's been like this huge 619 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: Facebook like wave of like, oh we should watch What's 620 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: the Health? And as a result, so What the Health 621 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: is a documentary like an expose on the meat industry 622 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: in the United States, which you know basically you know, yeah, 623 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: you don't want to know, like puffs and cows eating 624 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: other cows and dead chickens with each other. It's just 625 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: it's just a mess. So anyway, as a result, a 626 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: lot of people turn vegan, like a huge bricing veganism, 627 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: and and I know some of you guys who are 628 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: really vegan are gonna be like, Tiffany, get out of 629 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: my vegan face. I decided I was going to try 630 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: it out for three weeks. I'm not gonna lie. Not 631 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: for the political reasons, even though I'm like, I know 632 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: some vegans are rolling their eyes right now, I don't care. 633 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying it out more so for the health reasons. Aka, 634 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I want to lose ten pounds, so what, I don't care. 635 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: Don't judge me because a lot of being so I'm 636 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: in this vegan group. Child, it's like really political. I 637 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are vegan because they're like, 638 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: and I agree that, you know, I don't believe in 639 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: cruelty to animals, but I had not seen what, you know, what, 640 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: how our meat was produced basically, and so it's very 641 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: cruel to animals. But I'm not gonna lie. That was 642 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: not the reason why I decided to to try out this, 643 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: this vegan lifestyle. I'm just over this ten pounds and 644 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe this will help to jump start a 645 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: healthier life. Not that I can't see myself being vegan 646 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: for life. Honestly, I think that I definitely would would 647 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: have a more plant based diet. But I will say 648 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: on the positive side, like, so I don't drink any 649 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: I haven't looked in the last two weeks I took out. 650 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't drink much soda anyway, but no juice, no soda, 651 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: just water. If I need some bubbles, sparkling water, if 652 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: I need some flavor, lemon water. And then I've been 653 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: taking apple sided vinegar in the morning, which I'm like, 654 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: it's not my favorite, but whatever, It's tolerable. Water with 655 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: a little splash of honey, I know, because vegans are 656 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: like what honey's I vegean? Oh gosh, I know. 657 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: And then you gotta be careful with that whole vegan 658 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: thing because everything I has animal in it. 659 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: I know. 660 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: I felt my eggs. I just can't do it. 661 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: You know what the hard part for me is not 662 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: because the truth is, I'm not a huge like I 663 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: don't really eat I was not a big red eat 664 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: meat eater. It's very rare that I would eat red meat. 665 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm not huge. I'm not a big, big meat eater, 666 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: even chicken and fish. So the mornings are super easy, 667 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I have to say, because I'm usually like I'm lactose 668 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: in tolerant anyway, So giving up dairy is not super huge, 669 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: except for sour cream because I love sour cream. And 670 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: cheese wasn't a huge give up because I was I 671 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: had given up on like ninety percent of cheese anyway 672 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: because of my lactose some tolerance, and I haven't been 673 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: able to eat ice cream, so it wasn't. The transition 674 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: is not super crazy. Lunchtime is easy because I just 675 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: have a salad and I'll use like like I like 676 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: veggie burgers, and I always like veggie burgers anyway, like 677 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: outside of like trying this out, so now like typically 678 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: now for lunch, it's only been like four days, I'm 679 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: like typically but whatever, typically now for lunch, I'll have 680 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: like a veggie burger. Whatever. It's the night time that's 681 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: hard because I'm used to like a dinner, dinner. So 682 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out, you know, I have 683 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: to figure out some recipes that I can try out 684 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: where I feel like I'm eating, like, you know, a 685 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: decent dinner, where I'm not just having like a salad 686 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: and I'm starving by like eight. So that's where I 687 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: am right now. I'm like, I'm hungry. So I find 688 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: myself doing a lot of like fruit snacking, which you 689 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: know you don't want to have too much, even though 690 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: fruit is better than normal sugar. But I will say 691 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: in last four days, I mean I worked out for 692 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: six weeks and lost nothing. I will sit in last 693 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: four days, I lost two pounds, which I was shocked. 694 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: This is all based on a documentary you didn't watch 695 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: exactly look at My Life. That must have been some 696 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: damn good uh tweets or reviews about this documentary. 697 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't want to watch it. I didn't want 698 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: to see the pus and the dying cows. You can 699 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: get it. I've watched it. 700 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: I watched like Fat Second Second Nearly Dead, and there's 701 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: a couple of other ones that I've watched. I feel 702 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: like it's probably similar. I saw that That's the reason 703 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: I spent eight dollars on eggs last night, because they 704 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: were like they literally had printed pictures inside the egg 705 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: carton of the happy chickens, and I was like, Okay, 706 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: these are gonna be great. And they did taste better 707 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: than regular eggs, but yeah, because I mean, if I 708 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: can't give up eggs, but I do spend I feel 709 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: like eggs are the most economical food. I mean, you 710 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: get a dozen eggs, it's like a dozen meals or 711 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: at least six meals out of one cart. And like, yeah, 712 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: I'll spend eight dollars with some eggs, you know, I 713 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: don't mind doing that, and it's still cheaper than spending 714 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: four dollars every day for like an egg muffin whatever, 715 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: like what I get at my cafe for breakfast. But 716 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: I do little things. We don't eat a ton of meat. 717 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: I like people do like a meatless Monday, Like if 718 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: you want to just feel like meat free for one 719 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: day a week, yes, I'm with you. Though a meal 720 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: I grew up with, like you had to be a 721 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: protein or had to be like like a meat protein. 722 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: But I will say we tried, you know, we do 723 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: the Green Chef or like the the food delivery, the 724 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: meal kit thing, and we did a vegan week or 725 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: two and they're really good recipes. Like there was one 726 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: time we had these sweet potato tacos dull delicious and 727 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: they were so filling. 728 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: So that was my my boost break. It's like I 729 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: enjoying it, but it's hard. So you know, you gotkedhoes. 730 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Whether it's a boost to break, what about you, Mandy. 731 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: And do have a boost? I was thinking I was. 732 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: I had some friends over yesterday. Actually, uh, one of 733 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: their one of my friends, Wan Lee, He did the 734 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: logo for our show, So hey won Lee, Hey thanks 735 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: for the logo. Uh. Anyway, he and he and his 736 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: wife came over and they have a little girl, Laila, 737 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: who just turned one, and they I don't know we 738 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: were talking about we were First of all, we were 739 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: watching Sesame Street because she was like running around or 740 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: not running, but you know, she was just being a 741 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: little hyper. So they turned on Sesame Street. I didn't 742 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 2: I had no idea how woke Sesame Street is if 743 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: you want to teach children, uh, inclusiveness and and just humanity. 744 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean, Sesame Street is where it's at. Like they 745 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: my uh, his wife was talking about how they have 746 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: a lot of they've always had in their audience, a 747 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: lot of children with disabilities like down syndrome. And I 748 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 2: think they introduced their first autistic muppet not so long ago, 749 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: and I don't know it just I was like, what, 750 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: this is amazing. They had Romate, they had always Latin 751 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: characters on the show. They had like Gina Rodriguez and 752 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: Romeo Santos, which was kind of funny, like on the 753 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: show speaking in Spanish, and it's just so multicultural. And 754 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: I had no idea what I've been missing out on. 755 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: And I'm like, hell, yeah, my kids are gonna watch. 756 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: I just thought it was Big Bird and Elmo. And 757 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: then we got in the subject of Doc mcstuffans. Do 758 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: you know Doc mcstuffans, she's. 759 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: The Yes, I do. 760 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew her because I think Michelle Obama like 761 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: did something with her or the voice of her or whatever. 762 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: But anyway, so if you don't know, I'm sure all 763 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: of you do. But it's a little she's a little 764 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: black girl who's a doctor, right or not a black girl? 765 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: A woman? Is she a little kid? 766 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: No? No, she's a little kid. But she liked yeah 767 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: to her little stuffed animals. 768 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I was, that's so cute. But anyway, apparently there 769 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: was a lesbian couple on doc MC stuffins like a 770 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: a by an interracial lesbian couple on doc mcstuffans, and 771 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: I was like, what are childhood cartoons? They're amazing, They're 772 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 2: so woke. But apparently there's a lot of controversy over 773 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: this lesbian couple. But I'm fine with that. So I'm 774 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 2: just happy with where I'm happy with where media is going. 775 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: But in terms of like the images that are kids, 776 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: like little kids are seeing these days, I don't know 777 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: if it feels like it feels like that is that's 778 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: how you raise people who grow up. Where Obama tweeted 779 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: or instagram something after everything that was happening in Charlottesville, 780 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: and it's him looking at these little children outside of 781 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: the inside of a window, and he was the quote 782 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: was something like children aren't born noticing color and race 783 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: and being racist and bigots. They aren't born that way. 784 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: It's society who who and there and people in their 785 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: social lives who prime them for that. And and I 786 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: feel like it's just so important the images that we 787 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: better we show our children. And so shout out to 788 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: sesame Street Doc mcstuffians, and I got to give a 789 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: special shout out to my mother in law, Segunda Madre 790 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: for having a brown Mother Mary statue in her house. 791 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: Now I don't know where she got it, but I 792 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, he is brown. We'll still talk about 793 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: the giant portrait of white Jesus in the bedroom. But 794 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: she's getting places. 795 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: I thought. I was like, Okay, what's step at the time? 796 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: What's that? Better time at a time? So now it's time. 797 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: Can we have time for a quick question? 798 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: No, we do. Actually, this one is tailor fit for you. 799 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull it up. It has to do with 800 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: the ear. So we all know Tiffany has a literature academy, 801 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: which you can do at any time of the year. 802 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: Right, yep, it's open. Just go to join l R 803 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: for Literature Academy. Join LRA dot com and you can join. 804 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: We actually just lowered the price because I just wanted 805 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: to be I wanted to make sure that price was 806 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: not a hindrance for folks who wanted to join, And 807 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: a few people reached out to me, They're like, I 808 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: want to join, but I honestly I can't afford it. It 809 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: was like almost eighteen bucks a month, and we had 810 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: gotten it up to because honestly, the value is more 811 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: than worth that. But I kind of work with my 812 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: CFO and my accountant. I was like, what can we 813 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: bring it down to and not like have to close 814 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: doors and make sure we can pay everyone and make 815 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: sure that it makes sense for me financially. And it 816 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: was nine ninety nine a month. So we're keeping it 817 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: there for as long as we can. We probably have 818 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe a few hundred more people that we can, you know, 819 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: kind of take on at that price. So yep, join 820 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: LRA dot com. It's nine ninety nine a month, and 821 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: you lock yourself in for that for life. It's once 822 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: you lock yourself in for that. 823 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: So clutch okay, And this is like a weekly you 824 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: you do it throughout the year or do you have 825 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: you already sawny things and then you rerun them? 826 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: No? So I well, the teacher of me is like 827 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: differentiated learning. Some people like to work on their own. 828 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: So every Sunday we do a live lesson for those 829 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: folks who are like, hey, I want to you know, 830 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: work with the instructors that is there. So it's typically 831 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: not me teaching the courses. I reach out to people 832 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: who are way smarter than me in a particular topic. 833 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: Like you're a tax lawyer, let's talk about taxes. You're 834 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: you're I don't know, an accountant, so we're gonna do, 835 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, well, taxes. But that's not a great example. 836 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: But so I get experts to basically volunteer an hour 837 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: on Sundays and we do a live lesson with that expert, 838 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: and then we also have pre recorded lessons that are 839 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: inside the academy for those folks who like to work 840 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: at their own pace. And then we have longer extended 841 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: lessons that are about three weeks long that we pre record, 842 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: and we do those about twice a year. So the 843 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: last one we just did was a home buying intensive, 844 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: and so you could take that at any time. Anything 845 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: that's ever live is always then placed inside the Academy, 846 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: so you could take it at any time. But it's 847 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: a mix of pre recorded and live just in case. 848 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: And we also have a private Facebook group, which I 849 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: really love because I make all the instructors go in 850 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: there and like, you know, be a part of the group. 851 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: So if you have bottle up questions, you know, you 852 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: would normally have to pay to work with them individually, 853 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: but they're usually pretty open and about sharing and giving 854 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: you more additional information in the Facebook group. 855 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well here's our question. It's from listener V and 856 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: she has questions about So she is. Look, she is entrepreneur, 857 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 2: she's about to start a podcast, and she's interested in 858 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 2: giving online academies because she's seen how popular they're becoming 859 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 2: and a lot of people have their own academy. So 860 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: she has a couple of questions about what it takes 861 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: to start an academy. 862 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: OCHA, I know. 863 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 2: So she says, where do you find the people to 864 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: work with? So that's one I'm just going to summarize 865 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: her question. One she wants to know where do you 866 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 2: find people to support you assistance in turns, people to 867 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 2: help you figure out how to launch an academy? And 868 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 2: how do you pay if you do it all instructors 869 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: from the academy, do they receive all the profits from 870 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: that course or do you receive a percentage since you're 871 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: the founder. 872 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: So the way I do it is so I started 873 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: with anyone if you're looking for help, if you can't 874 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: afford to pay them, I started with interns. I went 875 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: to internships dot com and cause these are college students 876 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: who are like looking for legit internships. And so when 877 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: I first started out, that's where I found most of them. 878 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: And I also did social media posts where I was like, hey, 879 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: looking for an intern, email me. So I got a 880 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: good team in the beginning. I'm now, of course I pay, 881 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: I pay my staff, but in the beginning it was 882 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: all interns. And even when I'm looking for staff, I 883 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: look at social media, like I'll reach out to family 884 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: and friends and say, do you know someone who'd be 885 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: good at this? And then I'll post on social media saying, hey, 886 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: looking to hire a you know, and use the word 887 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: higher because people always say everything's free, you know, Like, 888 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 1: so looking at the hire and you know, an executive 889 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: assistant or whatever. Here the skill sets that you need. 890 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: Here's how you can contact me. So those are two 891 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: ways that you can look for help. And as far 892 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: as launching, I didn't know how. So a friend of 893 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: mine had done a couple of launches, so he suggested 894 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: this book, which is everything. It's called Launch by Jeff 895 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: oh Man. What's Jeff's last name, Uh, Jeff Launch. Sorry 896 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm typing it in because I'm like by Jeff Jeff Walker. 897 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: It's a great book. Oh my good. It walks you 898 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: step by step through like how to create a launch, 899 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: and it was it was my launch Bible, like step one, 900 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: do this step too, And I did all the steps 901 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: and I had a successful launch. I launched the Academy 902 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: about three different times because every time we would open 903 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: the Academy, we would relaunch it because we would come 904 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: back better. So that definitely use that. But then you 905 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: also want to join a Facebook group that will help. 906 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: So there's a Facebook group by RSHA. Let me see, 907 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: this is RSHA. It's called Brand Build and Launch with 908 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: Rsha Jones. And so it's all of these other small 909 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: business owners, mostly women who are like growing a business 910 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: or some of them are super successful, some of them 911 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: are middle some of them are just starting. But it's 912 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: just a great space to ask questions. So I would 913 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: definitely suggest you you you uh become a part of 914 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: Brand Build and Launch with RSHA Jones. That's it's a great, 915 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: really helpful group. And get that launch book by Jeff, 916 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: read it through and then take tons of notes and 917 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: just do a small launch. But in the beginning, like 918 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: building the Academy, at first you have to find a 919 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: good platform because they are like a few. There's Kujabi, 920 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: there's teachable. We use think Ethic, so think Ific. I 921 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: like it because it's fairly easy to use, and Kajabi's 922 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: really expensive and it was not very easy to use Teachable. 923 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: I've heard good things about Teachable used to be called 924 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: something else, and I used it when it was something 925 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: else and it wasn't that great. But I've heard it's better. 926 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: So I would look at Thinkific or Teachable as the 927 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: actual platform for the school and what happens is for me. 928 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,479 Speaker 1: The Academy wasn't the first thing. I had already had 929 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: a community, I had deliverature, challenges, all of the stuff 930 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: that I was doing for free, and so the Academy 931 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: was like, after years of doing so much stuff for 932 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: free and not really getting paid for anything, I said, okay, 933 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: so how can I create some solid income outside of 934 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: my speaking and my books, you know? And so I 935 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: started the academy and it was a little easier for 936 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: me to get folks to instructors because they wanted access, 937 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: so they exchanged Typically people are not going to exchange 938 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: their services for access to your community. But because I 939 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: had already built a really robust, active community instructors. Because 940 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: I don't really ask much. I'm like, hey, are you 941 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: free on Sunday? It's an hour Q and A with 942 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: me the DreamCatcher or the folks who are the Academy 943 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: members who are watching, get to type in and ask 944 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: questions live and in exchange. If you have a book 945 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: or a course or whatever, I allow you to freely 946 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: upsell because in mind, I have a private Facebook group 947 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,479 Speaker 1: called Dreamcatchers. We have about two hundred fifty thousand women. 948 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't let anyone sell in there. That's not the 949 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: purpose of the group. It's a giving group, not a 950 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: taking group. So no one really gets a chance to 951 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: sell to my audience. But if you come and you 952 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: donate basically an hour of your time and do a 953 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: Q and A with my audience with me kind of hosting, 954 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: then you get to sell to not the larger audience, 955 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: but to the to my academy members, which is about 956 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: eight thousand people. But these are people who buy. Like 957 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: just the other day, Tila Hulcum came on and she 958 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: teaches uh like uh, she teaches how to how to 959 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: buy stocks, how to trade your nine to five by 960 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: trading like stocks, and she had she had a course 961 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: that was two thousand dollars. Somebody bought one from the academy, 962 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: and so that's the exchange. It's like, hey, an hour 963 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: to forty five minutes of my time with Tiffany's audience. 964 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: That buys, and you know they will likely buy for me. 965 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: And so but I'm warning you that most people are 966 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: not willing to do that. It's only because I already 967 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: had the audience in place, so it takes a little time. 968 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: I would just start with figuring out what you're going 969 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: to create a you can't afford to pay teachers like, 970 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: look to see if you have any like friends who 971 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: would like, you know, kind of donate some of their time, 972 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: because it can be really expensive you if you have 973 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: to pay every individual teacher. There's no way I can 974 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: offer the academy for nine ninety nine. If I had 975 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: to pay every individual teacher, there's just no way. We 976 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: would not be able to make it. We would not 977 00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: be able to say, sustain ourselves. 978 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 2: So I would try and find experts who are just 979 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: at the beginning stages too, Like they may have all 980 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 2: the knowledge, but they may not have the clout or 981 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: the like the brand of their own built yet so 982 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: you can benefit from each other, and then they may 983 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 2: be more willing to do something for free or just 984 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 2: for clicks or like or just like to promote their 985 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 2: brand and not for straight up money or a percentage 986 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: of whatever profits you. 987 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: Have exactly, so you didn't cause in the beginning, I 988 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: should think I had to offer that. Like the first 989 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: couple of instructors, I did offer them that, and it 990 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: almost broke the business because I actually was making negative 991 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: At one point, I was carrying the budgeteath of my 992 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: speaking engagements were carrying the academy because I wasn't making 993 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: any money. And I was like, Ti, this doesn't make 994 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 1: any sense. You have to rethink your business model because 995 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: I didn't want to charge more and I didn't want 996 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: to you know, and I was like, so I had 997 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, something has to go. And paying the 998 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: instructors every single time got to be so expensive and 999 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: so instead I just paid them through access, and you know, 1000 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: like they've said, it's worth it because so many struggles, 1001 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: Like I'll give an example, one instructor told me she 1002 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: came on she had like a free newsletter, so it 1003 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: was kind of like her option to get on her 1004 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: email list, and so she had sixty people on her 1005 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: on her email list. After that one hour that night 1006 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: she had six hundred. So it's you know, so. 1007 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: Just nowhere, audience is very it's very like, you know, 1008 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what the word is for that, but 1009 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: when Tiff says jump jump, no. 1010 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: Well, they're interactive. You know what it is is because 1011 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: of you. 1012 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 2: They trust you. They trust you. 1013 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it's because of years of giving. So what I 1014 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: would suggest is that, like, you know, start your figure 1015 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: out what you want to teach, start making connections now 1016 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: with people that you think would want to teach with you. 1017 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: And the number one thing that I almost closed the 1018 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: Academy when we were losing so much money last year 1019 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: because I was just like, I'm paying everything like if 1020 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to charge people more money, but at 1021 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: the same time, this doesn't make sense. I'm losing money. 1022 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: So finally I stopped making decisions on my own. I 1023 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: started to saying, hey, academy members, what do you want? 1024 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: And then when they told me, I started only creating 1025 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: what they asked for because I was spending so much 1026 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: money creating these new things and they were like, well, 1027 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: that's cute, but I didn't ask for that, and so 1028 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: that helped significantly. So I was able to kind of 1029 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: get rid of things that I was paying for that 1030 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: they didn't really care about and really only focused on 1031 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: what was really bringing value. And then even now, because 1032 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: we've done so well, we've been able to reduce the price, 1033 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: which honestly, I'm really proud of because I know that 1034 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: what double the amount of women are going to be 1035 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: able to have access, Like I can't afford eighteen bucks 1036 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: a month, but I can do nine ninety nine. And 1037 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: so I'm really proud of being able because my biggest 1038 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: thing is always access for women of color, access to 1039 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: financial education for women of color. And at eighteen ninety nine, 1040 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: I was leaving a lot of folks out and that 1041 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 1: didn't seem fair to me. And so yeah, a lot 1042 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: of my friends are like, yo, you're creat like a 1043 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: lot of the color for money people. They hit me 1044 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,959 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they're like, girl, are you crazy? Because 1045 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: people were, people were buying at eighteen bucks a month. 1046 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: They were, But it just didn't sit right with me, 1047 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, because I was thinking to myself when I 1048 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: was a preschool teacher and that after I lost my job, 1049 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: would I be able to afford eighteen bucks consistently a month, 1050 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: and honestly I would not have been and it just 1051 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: didn't feel right. I was like, well, if your old 1052 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: Tiffany couldn't afford it, then what are you doing? And 1053 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, so we're proud of it. So yeah, join 1054 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: LRA dot com so hopefully and if not, I have 1055 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: so much free stuff. I tell people that's just for 1056 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: if you really want to take your finances to the 1057 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: next level, Like if you if you've already done the 1058 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: budgeting and the debt and the credit and the because 1059 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: all that stuff, the basic stuff I give away for free. 1060 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: So if you haven't done that, then do that. The 1061 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: academy really is for folks who want to start businesses, 1062 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: who want to invest, who want to buy homes, who 1063 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: really want to the next level after you've done the basics. 1064 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: Awesome, welvie, I hope you found those tips. So internships 1065 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: dot com for interns and then recap the name of 1066 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 2: the branding and launching launching. 1067 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: So the book is started launch by Jeff Walker. And 1068 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: I would look into these platforms teachable and think if 1069 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: for the platforms where you're going to house, the house, your. 1070 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 2: School, FANTASTICO you guys. If you have questions, you can 1071 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 2: go to Briannambission podcast dot com. Are newly well not 1072 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: so newly now, but if you haven't seen it the 1073 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 2: last few months, we redesigned the site. It looks fabulous. 1074 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 2: Thank you to our designer Terry for hooking us up. 1075 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: Go check out Brianimission podcast dot com. Click on ask 1076 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: us anything to send us an email and hopefully you'll 1077 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: hear your question answered on the show. 1078 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: Come so, what is your win? 1079 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a real quick win because it's the 1080 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 2: only bright spot, well not the only bright spot, but 1081 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 2: the bright spot after this weekend of darkness is that 1082 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down at ten o'clock tonight and watch 1083 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 2: Insecure and watch my girl Lisa Ray tell the truth 1084 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 2: about life in your late twenties for pocs. That's what 1085 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do tonight. I love the show. And you know, 1086 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 2: Facebook reminded me today like I had a Facebook memory. Well, 1087 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 2: my friend, I give her credit. Juliette Obodo, also of 1088 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: New Jersey Fame, hooked turned me onto awkward black girl 1089 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,959 Speaker 2: on YouTube way back in the day, and we yeah, 1090 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 2: we got no work done. At work. We were at 1091 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 2: low three sixty dot com. She was in sales. I 1092 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 2: was supposed to be doing I don't even know what, 1093 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 2: re writing or reading the legal documents, and we're just 1094 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 2: sitting there just tihihi and over over Isa Ray and 1095 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 2: her and her awkward Black Girls series, and so it's 1096 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 2: just I just love her show so much. I feel 1097 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: like it's so relevant, and it was just renewed for 1098 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 2: a third season. So that's my win. 1099 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 1: My win is, oh man, I was at the tip 1100 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: of my tongue turn it. 1101 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: It was good. I'm just saying broken pussy, broken pussy 1102 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 2: until you think of it. 1103 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I got it because you said Easter Ray. 1104 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: My win is so I was able. I was really fortunate. 1105 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: And then I spoke at Black Girl's Lead. That's Black 1106 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: Girl's Rock, you know, it's this Black Girl's Rock. Is 1107 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: this awesome like a what is it like a OD 1108 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: Award show for black women that rock? And so they 1109 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: tape it live in Newark every year, which is awesome, 1110 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: like around the corner from my house, and they have 1111 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: a summer camp for young women called Black Girls Leads. 1112 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: So I spoke at in one of the perks are 1113 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: speaking at the summer camp. Is that you get a 1114 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: ticket to the taping? So I went and let me 1115 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: just say, because I know I don't know by the 1116 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: time the show on airs, it won't have aired yet. 1117 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: So I'll just tell you, Auntie Maxine goes all the 1118 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: way in. It is amazing. She is amazing. She's the 1119 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: definition of lits okay, and she just goes all the 1120 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 1: way in on forty five on our role to make 1121 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: this world a better place. Aunty Maxine is everything, And 1122 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: so she is my win because she is amazing and 1123 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: you know she just deserves to be honored. 1124 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, who's making her T shirts? I need to get 1125 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 2: one of those. 1126 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 1: Reclaiming my Time, Reclaiming my. 1127 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 2: Time, Reclaiming my Time on the front, brand Ambish on 1128 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 2: the back. How about that. That's a winner. 1129 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: I love it.