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Speaker 1: Chris Ballace said team is not trading Anthony Richardson. It

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Speaker 1: is easy to say, Okay, he's done. I don't agree.

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Speaker 1: I've said numerous times I don't agree with that. I

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Speaker 1: think overcoming challenges and obstacles along the way are good

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Speaker 1: for anybody, For for anybody, I do. I'm proud of

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Speaker 1: Anthony of where he's at and how far he's come.

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Speaker 1: He's come miles is tough on any young quarterback in

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Speaker 1: this league. But for him to keep taking the growth

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Speaker 1: the goals for himself all right now, continue to do that,

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Speaker 1: that's when we've got a chance to see real growth.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: You like that, old Joe, You like what he had

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Speaker 4: to say.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Also also from a business from a business side

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Speaker 3: of things, we know we don't we don't. We know

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Speaker 3: that the long term answer is not Daniel Jones. We've

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Speaker 3: seen the small sum beside of what Daniel Jones was

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Speaker 3: the New York Giants. So all of a sudden, okay,

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Speaker 3: my bad, But to think that Daniel Jones to answer

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Speaker 3: long term, that's not it. So why would you trade

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson? He's only twenty three years old. He's probably

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Speaker 3: going to continue to grow, continue to get better. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: other quarterbacks reach their potential much sooner than others.

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Speaker 2: Maybe gonna take Anthony Richardson a little bit longer.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the benching now again and losing this spot is

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Speaker 3: a blessing in disguise for him to.

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Speaker 2: Continue to grow, to continue to get better.

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Speaker 3: And at some point if things aren't going well in

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Speaker 3: Annapolis with Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback, do you

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Speaker 3: know who's not gonna have to come in and be

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Speaker 3: that savor for the rest of the season, Brother Anthony Richardson. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: they would not let him go or trade him somewhere

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Speaker 4: There is no backup, No, of course not. I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's trading him now. Now we might

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's different. Now, that's depending. That's depending if.

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Speaker 3: Things right with Daniel Jones and what he shows us,

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Speaker 3: what type of growth maturity from the quarter that position,

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Speaker 3: the turnovers, without the mental lapses that he has from

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Speaker 2: Now that can save not just in job, but his future.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so if he gets an opportunity, he's gonna have

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Speaker 4: So Joe, he gets back.

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Speaker 1: In there, and he doesn't, he doesn't take advantage of

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Speaker 1: this opportunity, they're gonna move on because it becomes cost prohibitive.

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Speaker 4: For them to keep him on the roster.

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Speaker 1: So and you're never gonna get the value for I mean,

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Speaker 1: you took it with the fourth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: The fourth pick in the draft, O Joe, you do realize,

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Speaker 1: like that's supposed to be at the fourth pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft. You're supposed to be franchise altering, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're a quarterback. Yeah, I mean, any player that you're

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Speaker 4: And and normally you hope, Ojo, you have to bench

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Speaker 1: Now, we'll see how he took to the benching, because

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Speaker 1: we saw what he did for Bryce Young.

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Speaker 5: Have the same kind of impact on Richardson. Yeah, I hope, so,

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Speaker 5: I hope so too, I hope. So he's a talent.

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Speaker 5: He's a he's a phenomenal talent man. Once he puts

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, oh, Joe, but you look at it.

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Speaker 1: A guy started he started thirteen games in college, hearted

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Speaker 1: Most of the really good, really good quarterbacks you'll get,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he started more than twenty five games.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, but most of the time, these

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Speaker 4: Do you know how mental letalented you must be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But the bad thing about it is the NFL

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, the Texans did it. Hell, the Commanders

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Speaker 4: So not understanding look at me, look at any games?

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Speaker 1: How many games Daniel started though, he started that gamn

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, yeah, yeah, And that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously there needs to be a little patience on

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Speaker 1: Patient for the simple fact in three years, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: Now, it's not something like, you know, once upoint of time.

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Speaker 1: See, o Joe, if it's like if I got ten cars,

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Speaker 4: I can sit that way to the side.

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Speaker 1: I can't sit my man, because growing up on Yo,

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Speaker 1: I can't stash Anthony Richardson because I need him to play.

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Speaker 1: about to get a contract for four hundred million, O Joe,

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Speaker 1: be patient now it used to be. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: I just being honest with you, Oh Joe. I'm just look,

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Speaker 1: We've been around the league. That's how it is now.

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody waiting, nobody waiting on you.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: Most of the time, honestly, you think about owners. Think

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Speaker 2: Of the time what businessmen do.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't work like that in the NFL. Don't worry,

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Speaker 3: So the frustration piles up because in other areas of

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Speaker 4: Something right away, I get results.

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Speaker 3: But it just doesn't work that way when it comes

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Speaker 1: You and I talk about, is that all of a

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Speaker 1: See it, They don't have patience because I'm looking around

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Speaker 1: Stroud did. So now hold on, wait, you went higher

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Speaker 1: than than Bold? Why why you not player like that?

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Speaker 1: Why can't you be Why can't you be CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud? Why can't you be Jade Daniels?

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Speaker 1: So now you're basing your guy's success on someone else's success.

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Speaker 1: And so now it's almost like, oh, Joe, you looking

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Speaker 1: don't know what how their coaching said. Player, you don't

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Speaker 1: now I got there, like okay, Like you said, okay,

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Speaker 1: be patient. Well that's where you do your homework and

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Speaker 1: You can't expect him to be like a Jane Daniels.

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Speaker 1: You can't expect him to be like Caleb Williams, a

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Speaker 1: You can't expect that that man got thirty plus stars

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Speaker 1: like damn fifty starts. You don't have that. So if

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Speaker 4: It's gonna take them years. But the problem.

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Speaker 1: Is is that I have other cars I can drive,

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Speaker 1: take my tag, Oh Joe, bro this pro sports. They

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Speaker 1: not waiting. Yeah, they're not waiting those days of oh

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Speaker 1: if two or three years, man, look here, I might

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have too many guys that you selecting

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Speaker 1: the top five and they don't.

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Speaker 4: Pan out, Oh Joe. The Commanders signed.

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin to a three year deal worth up the

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Speaker 1: ninety six million. He receives thirty million dollar bonus and

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Speaker 1: the new deal with Terry back the Commanders are true

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Speaker 1: Trooper old contenders.

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Speaker 4: We got the list up there. You can see right

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Speaker 1: Average salary where guys are are based at ojo, I

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Speaker 1: I said, I don't see him going north of DK.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, O Joe.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't take that long.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, O Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I tell people all the time, O Joe,

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Speaker 4: Let me build up to that. Brother. Hey, don't push

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Speaker 1: Because growings, hamstring, quads, adductors, adductors. But I'm glad Scarytary

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Speaker 1: If you took care of your money, this right here,

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Speaker 1: I always like that, O Joe. I like when teams

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, and I hate.

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Speaker 2: Well that's crazy. I'm like, bro, who dang, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But it's nice to know y'all got some money. So

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to have no excuses.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear nothing.

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Speaker 2: O yo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Jamar Chase is the highest paid at forty

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Speaker 4: Whok in the cool?

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Speaker 3: No, No, it's gonna be a minute, it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: Uh, you got neighbors. You got Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 3: But the next who I say, neighbors might get maybe

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Speaker 1: And I'll see, Chase had the perfect storm because he

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Speaker 4: So he got the triple crown in a contract year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Listen, they bet they bet against him, the better what

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Speaker 4: Hey he gonna feed it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get it to him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Nico Collins already got paid.

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Speaker 1: So hey, so, but I'm glad Terry gets it. He's

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Speaker 1: I still don't believe this man, Bill O'Brien traded d

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, you traded him for a running back.

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Speaker 2: That's always the problem.

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Speaker 4: But hell, who is who is at here? Twelve?

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Speaker 3: they'll say.

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00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh where you lost your step?

441
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 4: I ain't lose nothing.

442
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Don't play with me.

443
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 4: They did him too.

444
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: They drafted JJ Stokes and the next year who they

445
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: draft O Joe your boy. Oh yeah, so it ain't

446
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: happen to everybody. Hey, don't think. Don't think we got

447
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: oh you Jai. No no no, no, no, no no no.

448
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: They look at the replace you they looking Yeah. And

449
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: then to put together that a monster season. And they

450
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: put together the monster season to had that game against

451
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: the Bear where he had two sixty five and twenty catchers.

452
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 4: On Jared Rice's day.

453
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: M hmm.

454
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: The Bear said, nah, if somebody else can came for

455
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: three hundred yards, get thirty.

456
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 2: Passes, but you ain't touching it.

457
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 1: And guess what, TiO Wig went crazy.

458
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 4: T went crazy.

459
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: And as they say, the rest is history.

460
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

461
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: It seems to me, o yo, if we're going to

462
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit with the Bengals, is

463
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: that the team has all the leverage. Guys are not

464
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: willing to miss a million dollars. Guys are not willing

465
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: to wins miss eight hundred thousand, two million dollars. Guys

466
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: are not willing to miss that kind of money.

467
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 4: Oh yo.

468
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: So although they might be in the right, I have

469
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: great I have a great foundation to stand on. I

470
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: need to be compensated because I've outperformed the contract.

471
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: I know this. You know this.

472
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: If I had underperformed the contract, you would have released me.

473
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: So I've outperformed the contract. Compensate me. But very few

474
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: guys are willing to risk.

475
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 4: Now.

476
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't miss the whole season, probably because I would

477
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 1: come back eight games because I want to get a credit.

478
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: Because if you missed the whole season, you lose a creditation.

479
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: You don't get credit for that season. So you KNOWY

480
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: got to get at least the eight games, Oh Joe,

481
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: in order to get credit for the season. But O Joe,

482
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: guys ain't really trying to miss No. Nine, ten, twelve

483
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: million dollars, No so and and and So that's the

484
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 1: leverage that the the teams have. And they know it.

485
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: They know you're not gonna miss that money. See Jerry knows.

486
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: Jerry said all that are Jerry gonna go to the

487
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: bank and say, hey, check this out. I'm gonna be

488
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: a little I'm gonna i'mnna be a little slow this month.

489
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: So I'll probably catch you all in October, okay, mister Jones,

490
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: Because they saw Jerry just got a check for four

491
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: thirty two in March. Absolutely, so they'll they'll put that

492
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: down the road. I can't go to my kids school, say,

493
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little behind this month, can y'all? No, no, no,

494
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: mister charge we're gonna need that three thousand dollars childcare.

495
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna need that fifteen thousand dollars for a school

496
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: private tuition. They they'll give those guys the benefit of

497
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Speaker 1: the doubt.

498
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like us.

499
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: We'd situations though, show that we get things from financial

500
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: institutions that normal people couldn't go do.

501
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Right.

502
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 4: I understand.

503
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm not here trying to tell you know, I'm just

504
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: saying there's certain things that they'll allow us to do.

505
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: Knowing who we are, knowing the financial situation that we're in,

506
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a little bit more relaxed.

507
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 4: Right.

508
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: But guys are just they just can't They just can't

509
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: afford to leave that kind of money on the table.

510
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: And it's been going on for so long. Guys like

511
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: they fight it as long as they can. Yeah, but

512
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: you hold in. But you know, at the end of

513
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: the day, like I said, I just can't see a

514
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: situation where Michael Parson is gonna leave one point three

515
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: million on the table.

516
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: Hey, just can't.

517
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know, Hey, because.

518
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: Think about it, one point three million and Texas.

519
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but still I don't know, because you're

520
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: gonna if you if you fold here, if you fold here.

521
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: Then that at your leverage. Then you know, you don't hear,

522
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: you don't get in.

523
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: Jerry Tall you we got him in the contract for

524
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: three more years.

525
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: He has no leverage.

526
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: He's not gonna play with him like that.

527
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 4: What did you do?

528
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Did you see Jerry slide to the front of his

529
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: chair when he talked to stephen A. Yeah, when somebody

530
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: slide to the front of their chair, Oh.

531
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Joe, they mean they meaness. Ok, Hey, they mean business.

532
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: Listen, in a conversation like that, when it comes to

533
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: money and you slide forward, or when you're playing video games.

534
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: This is very important. I know you don't play video game, but.

535
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: The check and the test of this when stuff is

536
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: getting serious and it's in the fourth quarter.

537
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: And you slide up in your chair and get closer

538
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: to the monitor.

539
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's go time, it's go time, and you mean

540
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: nothing but business at that point.

541
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: So I know, I know Jerry was serious. I knew

542
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: he was serious.

543
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Any minute he was saying he wanted to make sure

544
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: stephen A understood right the seriousness of what he was saying.

545
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got him on the contract for three more years.

546
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: So he's telling you, I got this fifthyr option, and

547
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 1: I got two franchise tags.

548
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to use them.

549
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: That's nasty work too, though. That's nasty work.

550
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I even mention that to even say that,

551
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't surprise me based on some of

552
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: the comments he said previously. Yes when talking about it, Well, Jesse,

553
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: if I pay him not doesn't mean he's gonna be

554
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: available because.

555
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: He got hurt. What that that just?

556
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: Did you watch? Have you been watching the documentary? No?

557
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: I still I still Okay?

558
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: In nineteen and I think it was ninety six when

559
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: he did the deal outside of the NFL because the

560
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: NFL with Nike, he did a deal with Phil Knight

561
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: and Nike.

562
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 4: And the league suiting for two hundred and fifty million.

563
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: Who won hold on, come on for two hundred and

564
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: fifty million.

565
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: Jerry turned around and counter sued them for seven hundred million,

566
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: talking about they had a monopoly. So they was at

567
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: the owners meeting, they had their Norman call, Okay, now

568
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: they asked Jerry to leave because they're about to talk

569
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: about him, right, So Jerry tells the story that he

570
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: got up. He gets up, and he starts to walk

571
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: out because he knows he can't be a part of

572
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: the meeting. He said, I know, guys, you guys are

573
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: suing it for three hundred million, and you're gonna try

574
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: to take my ball club.

575
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 4: He said.

576
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: I know that's what y'all gonna do. He said, but

577
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I'm suing you for seven hundred million,

578
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: and if I win, I'm gonna collect every effing.

579
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: Sent Wait he talked, he talked, Wait, hold.

580
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 4: On, he got, he got, he got Cojones like that.

581
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: He says, I know what y'all trying to do, he said,

582
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: but if I win, I'm gonna collect every I don't

583
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: care how long it takes. I'm gonna collect every reffing

584
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: set time out?

585
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: What what is?

586
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: What's the Cowboy documentary on Netflix?

587
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna watch this tonight. Bright how many? How many?

588
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 4: It's like eight episode? Eight episodes?

589
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh I got to see that.

590
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hold on past Paul Tagla who went for that.

591
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: What you're gonna do? Because at the end of the day.

592
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Look them owners, legal fees are coming out of their pockets.

593
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: Right.

594
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: That's why every time they're like, hey, the long as

595
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: something goes on, litigation goes on. Those billable hours. I

596
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: know a little something about billable hours. When you start

597
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: getting up there, oh show you start getting up there

598
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: one thousand, fifteen hundred two thousand dollars an hour, and

599
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: everything is a charge. You call a how's it going?

600
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: That's a charge? Right, we go down there in file,

601
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: that's a charge. They answer emotion, that's a charge. Jesus

602
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: you in court, that's a charge. M But that's a

603
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: different ballgame too.

604
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: See Jared was saying, hold on.

605
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: Jerry said, hold on, I'm doing four times what anybody

606
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: else is doing, but I'm getting one thirtieth of it.

607
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: No more.

608
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy, No more. Oh that's crazy.

609
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: Look.

610
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: The one thing that the NFL don't like get to

611
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: that's why they kind of let this this left all alone.

612
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Al said, Al said, I'm going to La Nah, you

613
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: can't do that.

614
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: I'll sue you going back to Oakland. Al, you can't

615
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: do that, I sue you. I'm excited.

616
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: Now, how did yeah, and how does the story end

617
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: with with with with the NFL and and Jerry.

618
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: Jerry is the only one that's not a part of

619
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: the revenue sharing when it comes to merchandise, when it

620
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: comes to that stuff, so he pockets everything. Everything that's

621
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. He the NFL said they owned the logo.

622
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: I said, you don't. I believe that.

623
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: Long All Pro Safety Kyle Hamilton and the Ravens have

624
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: reached an agreement, a four year extension worth one hundred

625
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: point four million dollars is the largest deal for safety

626
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL history, and the deal includes eighty two

627
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed.

628
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

629
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: However, they got a bigger deal looming. Lamar Jackson, Yeah,

630
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: satur captain number is forty three point five million and

631
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: twenty five seventy four and a half million in twenty

632
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: six with Lamar continued, he still represents him off here

633
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: and his mom. Are we headed for a long drawn

634
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: out negotiation or it is going to be simple and painless.

635
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be simple and plain. It's simply the fact,

636
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: this is quarterback number one. This is the future of

637
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: your organization, probably for the next ten years. Obviously, we

638
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: saw we saw young Bull down there in Buffalo get

639
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: his deal. I forgot what the numbers were, but I

640
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: know I think it was in North was maybe.

641
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 4: Three hundred something like that.

642
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Three hundred with two fifty two fifty guaranteed.

643
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, guaranteed.

644
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: So obviously Lamar is going to be somewhere, probably going

645
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: to leap frog that in some way shape form or fashion,

646
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: representation being his mom, them having the right people in

647
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: their corner understanding how everything works, being that they've already

648
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: worked one deal, so it's pretty easy where the numbers

649
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: are going to be, and they're going to work it out.

650
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: And I'm not maybe I wouldn't be surprised if if

651
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: it happens maybe before the season or maybe in the

652
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: middle of the season, but it's probably going to get done.

653
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: It's simply when it comes to certain certain players. When

654
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: it come to certain especially this position, you.

655
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: Don't play no games. You don't play games of that position.

656
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: So the quarterbacks have nothing to worry about except just

657
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: football year.

658
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: I like them going ahead and getting this deal with

659
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyle Hamilton out of the way.

660
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: They tied up.

661
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: The Ravens are normally very very good about this their

662
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: homegrown talent. They take care of those guys they always have.

663
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I believe they're as they always will. You go back

664
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Speaker 1: and look at the Jonathan arguments, the ray Lewis's, the

665
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Tarrell Subgs, the Ed Reids, those guys. They take care

666
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: of their guys. They've always done that. They took care

667
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: of Lamar. That they did make Lamar play, you know,

668
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: or the franchise tag one year of surprised, well, he

669
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: didn't play on a franchise tag. Nobody even put money

670
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: down when so how many guys needed a quarterback and

671
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: could have given up easily two first round draft picks.

672
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that's the Gordon rate for

673
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback of Lamar. Two first rounders. You'd have been

674
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: gladly giving those guys up, because you hell, you feel

675
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: that when you give those guys up that you're gonna

676
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: be so far down in the draft it's not going

677
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: to harm you. You don't think you get Lamar Jackson, you're

678
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: gonna be picking in the top ten.

679
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: Again.

680
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: What that's being said, They took care of Kyle Hamilton.

681
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Now they can put their attention on Lamar Jackson. I

682
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: agree with you, at some point in time, this deal

683
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: is gonna get done. They're not going into the season

684
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: next year with a seventy five million dollar cap hit

685
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Could I potentially see them doing something done?

686
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: Getting something done? It all depends on him because at

687
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Oho, you said it best.

688
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: He and his mom are their representation. They do have

689
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: an NFLPA attorney, I think to help them read over

690
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: language and probably pay an hourly rate or something like that.

691
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: That's better than giving up three to four percent. I'll

692
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: pay you hourly. I'll give you, you know, fifty whatever

693
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the case will be. Let's just say a round number.

694
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Let's just say a thousand dollars an hour for you

695
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: to read over the contract to make sure everything's going

696
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: to up and up. All the languages is what it

697
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: needs to be. But with that being said, he's not

698
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: going in the next season with no seventy five million

699
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: dollar cap HiT's that's for damn sure.

700
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be.

701
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen sooner rather than later that he's gonna

702
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: get something done.

703
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: I can see. I agree with you.

704
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: I can see them somewhere at some point in time

705
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: getting a deal done. If he wants to get it done,

706
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: he might say, well, if we don't get this thing

707
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: done by the first game.

708
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: I've done talking contracts until l after the season.

709
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, when you think about someone like Lamar, someone

710
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: like Lamar that I.

711
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Know personally, he's strictly football.

712
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 3: When it comes to the business side of things, obviously

713
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: has mom right there to handle those issues. But Lamar

714
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: is one that just wants to play football, and we

715
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: understand the nature of the business and you don't want

716
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: to get yourself in any type of distract your situations.

717
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: That can take you from said game of football.

718
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: But obviously his his eye is on the prize, and

719
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: the eyes on the prize had nothing to do with

720
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: money because he's already been paid. So his focus is

721
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: on doing what we need to do to dominate in

722
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: the AFC North and contend and get ourselves to for

723
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: wann the playoffs and to get get over the hump

724
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: of getting out the playoffs and having a chance that God.

725
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 4: Damn, you're absolutely right. Look, the guy is a two

726
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: time MVP. You're not gonna pay no, no, no.

727
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: No no no no no no no no no no no.

728
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: I can't do that. We gotta give it what he got.

729
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: I don't care what the numbers say he's a three

730
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 4: time MVP.

731
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: Now they took one of those.

732
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: He's from him based on one of the best statistical

733
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: seasons from a quarterback in the history of the game.

734
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: So it was that I love Josh Allen, but last

735
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: year's MVP was a damn.

736
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: Here, That's what that was.

737
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm just being I'm just I'm just being realistic.

738
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: That's what I Damn here, that's what that was.

739
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: But you're paying You're gonna pay Lamar Jackson, the guy

740
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: that's not even thirty years of age yet you're gonna

741
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: pay him. You believe the next five or seven years

742
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: he'll still put up the kind of numbers that he's

743
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: been putting up the last three to four years. Thirty

744
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: forty past touchdowns still can give you somewhere between five

745
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: and eight hundred rush yards, low turnover rate. Like you said,

746
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: he just needs to get over that hunt. He just

747
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: needs to get that one time to play like Lamar

748
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: in the regular season, because so many times we've seen him.

749
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: He went like a stretch where he had eight nine games.

750
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, he ain't turned the ball over, he didn't

751
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: fumble the ball for a pick. He did none of

752
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: that and then he got I think in the playoff game,

753
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: the Divisional round against Baltimore, he ended up having two turnovers.

754
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: Look, he still had him in position.

755
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: If the tight end, if he catches that Mark Andrews,

756
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: if he catches that two point play, now we were

757
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: possibly in the overtime or or I mean the defense

758
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: is gonna have to stand to keep Josh Allen out

759
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: a field goal range and then we go to overtime.

760
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: We'll never know. But we have yet to see Lamar.

761
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Jackson play in a in a big time game come postseason,

762
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: like the Lamar Jackson that we thought should have won

763
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: the MVP. See, because if that guy showed up, they

764
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: go into the super Bowl. And that's and that's what

765
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what we keep expecting, O Joe.

766
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: That's what we keep wanting to see because we know

767
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: it have we had, he has it in him because

768
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: we've seen it. It's not like we're asking we're not

769
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: asking Lamar Jackson to do anything. He has not put

770
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: on tape in the regular season. That's the only thing,

771
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: because we've seen him put on tape. He throw for

772
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: three hundred, he a rush for sixty, seventy eighty yards.

773
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: We've seen him have three touchdown passes two touchdown Russian,

774
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: So we're not asking him to do anything that we

775
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: have not already seen with our own eyes. It's just

776
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: that in the playoffs more times than not he's turned

777
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: the ball over and yeah, once he gets that out

778
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: of his way, you know, and sometimes it takes others

779
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: longer to live.

780
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: We've gotten spoiled. Tom Brady went his first second your

781
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: first year starting, he win Patrick Mahomes. This first year starting,

782
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 4: he goes to the FC Championship Game.

783
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: The next year, a second year starting, he wars the

784
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he wins the regular season MVP. And that

785
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: same thing with Lamar. Think about it. Lamar his first

786
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: year starting, he won Super he won the MVP. So

787
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: we know who what he can capable of. We just

788
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: need him to be that person come playoff time. And

789
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: if he does that, the Raven's gonna be hell because

790
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: the Ravens they got a heck of a four football team.

791
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: They got a heck of a football team. I think

792
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: John Harbor is an unbelievable coach. Defensively, they got guys

793
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: that fly around to the football. They got Jahie Alexander.

794
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: They got Wiggins outside, they got Marlon Hump in the slot.

795
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: They got Hamilton. They took a safe. I think they

796
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: took another safety in the first round.

797
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 4: They're good. Ro Kwan Smith. People, look that loaded. They're loaded.

798
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: They got ham They got the otherwise of Zay Flowers,

799
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: the running back. Look, Ricard is back. They got dead Henry.

800
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: They got a Stalian's back. Lamar, they are loaded. Now

801
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: like Lovely is going to be out a little whitecause

802
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: I think you got dealing with a foot injury. But

803
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: they got Matt Andrews, who's been an All Pro, who's

804
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: gone to multiple Pro Bowls. This team is loaded. This

805
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: team is equipped, and they should. You'd be thinking, hey,

806
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: we got to take care of it. We got to

807
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: take care of business and went out the vision. But

808
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: they should have loftier expectations based on the personnel that

809
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: they have on the team and based on the coach

810
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the coaching staff.

811
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: That they have. But uh, yeah, Lamar, they're gonna get

812
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: something done.

813
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: Forty three point five million, that's not excessive as far

814
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: as the cap oh joke.

815
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: But seventy five yeah, that's excessive.

816
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's waiting.

817
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: During Terry mccarrn's push for a new contract. Age was

818
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: cited as a big factor in the reluctance Terry turns

819
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: thirty in miss September that ultimately didn't stop the team

820
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: from mcgreen on a three year deal with the Wide Out.

821
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: At the PRENS conference today, McLaurin was asked about his

822
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: response to the concerns that neither he nor the deal

823
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: will age. Well, the data is the data, but I

824
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: think people they're outliers. There are people who may not

825
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: necessarily fit into that set of data. Only time will tell,

826
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: But I feel like where things are in my ability.

827
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: In January, I ran like sixty yard screen for a touchdown.

828
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: My speed hasn't diminished at all. My toughness is there.

829
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: If anything, my sadness of playing receiver has grown.

830
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: Hey listen, honestly, I'm just listening.

831
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: All the analytics and data and stuff that they have

832
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: based on age and wear and tear and my amount

833
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: of moules on your legs.

834
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: None of that really matters.

835
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter us, don't matter us.

836
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: It just matters those you can cut those check Yeah,

837
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: that's all.

838
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: That's all.

839
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: And so they look at it from a business standpoint,

840
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: maybe I won't get another Terry McLaurin.

841
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: I can get.

842
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: Somebody that can give me half the production and I

843
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: can put that money elsewhere.

844
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: That's the way they think.

845
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: But when it comes to a team that is on

846
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: the verge of being able to go to a Super Bowl,

847
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: that has a young quarterback that you haven't had to

848
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: pay yet, you want to make a deal like this happen,

849
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: which I don't understand why they were waiting from a

850
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: business standpoint.

851
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: While we waiting, are you serious about winning?

852
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: Them?

853
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: Getting that deal done for Terry.

854
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: Mc lauren lets me know that they're serious about winning,

855
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: and the quarterback not having the power or leverage to

856
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: be able to go upstairs and say, listen, we need

857
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: to get this done. We need to get it done

858
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: because we have a small window opportunity.

859
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Good.

860
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: We have an okay defense, but I understand we can

861
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: do offensively if we have number seventeen.

862
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: In this room for us to make that run. For Lombardy.

863
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: Hell, we got to the NFC Championship with him. He

864
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: was I'm not sure what percentage, but he was. He

865
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: was responsible for a high percentage of that offense, especially

866
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: when to come to throw on the ball.

867
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: In the air.

868
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: So what is that a play about. I don't care

869
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: what data, I don't care what analytics say. I know

870
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: what happens. I know what he does when you put

871
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: when you turn that goddamn film on in seventeen, he

872
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: gonna show up every time.

873
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: The question is, OJO, what we don't know. We're not

874
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: privy to these conversations. Did he lower the ceiling or

875
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: did they raise the floor? That's good, that's that's what you.

876
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: You and not not privy to those conversations. So and

877
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: what I mean by that chat did he lower his

878
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: price or did they raise their did they raise their offer?

879
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: And so that's what we don't know. All we know

880
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: is that the deal got done. You and I both

881
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: think maybe it took a little longer than probably what

882
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: it should. But in any negotiation there needs to be

883
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: a give and take, because you don't want someone to

884
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: begrudgingly give you something and then you guys become resentful

885
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: of each other. But by the same token, you don't

886
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: want to, like man, feel like you got screwed over,

887
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: because now you're gonna feel like you you know, they tried,

888
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: they took advantage of you. So I think at this

889
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: at the number that he ended up getting. I think

890
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: everybody can live. I think everybody can live with that.

891
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to go in and play on that

892
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: fifthier option. Now he gets to cut. Now he gets

893
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: the I think he gets to come in and get

894
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: a good number.

895
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 4: Like I said, O, Joe.

896
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: What what what can he do with thirty two million

897
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: that he only needed thirty four million.

898
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 4: To be able to do it? Right? Right?

899
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, he comes in fair. It's a respectful, respectful offer. Obviously,

900
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: it's not the highest. It's not as high as you want,

901
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: obviously because you are thirty. But they found a happy medium,

902
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: a happy media for him, his family.

903
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 2: Wife, kids, they can be happy. The team is happy.

904
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: Jamie Daniels gets his core j James dan gets a

905
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: receiver on a nice piece sound mindset. Now all you

906
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: can do the business side of is over.

907
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: Let's go play football.

908
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: Let's play football and prepare, prepare for week one with

909
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 3: no distractions.

910
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know they're don't have to do something

911
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: with Laramie Tunso they're gonna have to do something with Louvu.

912
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: They you know, they what are they gonna do anything

913
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: with Marshon Lattimore that's the question. Jane Daniels is coming

914
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: up and after next year. Uh so, you know they

915
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: can have some other pieces and they needed to get

916
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: this out of the way so they don't have this,

917
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, going into a next season with Tunso and

918
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: Lovu and those other and a few other guys. Joe,

919
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and piece by piece because in two years.

920
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: You don't have to go see five. I think you

921
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 4: ain't Jane Daniels five.

922
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to see it, and it's gonna

923
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: cost you to change.

924
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 4: Now.

925
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna hey yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to do

926
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: something strange for a little bit. You have to do

927
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: something strange to prey that for you change.

928
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: You got to understand, you got you got three quarterbacks, right,

929
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: that's gonna come up and it's gonna break the bank

930
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: for their team. So you want to take advantage of

931
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: those situations now over there in Houston, boy, you better

932
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 3: back the brink truck up. Down in Washington, you better

933
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: be able to back the brink truck up at some point.

934
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: I think after the season, No, Caleb William got one more,

935
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: uh O, Nicks, They're.

936
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: Gonna have to back the brink a year too.

937
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, him and Caleb him and be at the

938
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: same oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Come on

939
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: to talk to me now, talk to me nice too.

940
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: Let me know, show me how much you love me. Uh,

941
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna be, yeah, I'll be.

942
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: Look.

943
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: The thing else, you try to win as much as

944
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: you can because when these quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks, when

945
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: it's time to dance now, it kind of inhibits what

946
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: you're able to do. You can't just arbitrarily go okay,

947
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: I'll just go get that because when you have him

948
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: on this rookie contract, you can do that. You can

949
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: go get a guy and think about just one year. Okay,

950
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: I think about just the now, just to here. But

951
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: once you once you pay that guy and you talk

952
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: about you're paying a guy fifty sixty and you're looking

953
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: at this case, you're probably talking about somewhere between sixty

954
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: three and sixty sixty seven, sixty eight million dollars, who knows,

955
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: maybe even you take seventy yeah, at a quarter of

956
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: a bill, a quarter of you know, a quart of

957
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: a billy guaranteed. So that's that's that's that's that's kind

958
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: of where you're headed now.

959
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 4: So with that being said, I think.

960
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, these guys are these general managers, and the

961
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: teams are trying to link the lock, lock these guys up,

962
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: so we don't want to have to do I'm trying

963
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: to do Larrymy Tumsel, I'm trying to do Lovu. I'm

964
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: trying to do Jane Daniels. I'm trying to do whomever else.

965
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and get Doe. I deal with

966
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: one thing. I can fight one battle of a time.

967
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to spread myself to fam. Let me

968
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: fight one battlelet of time. Okay, I gotta fight Jane Daniels.

969
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and get this take care of.

970
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: Okay. I need to deal with Tunsul. I need to

971
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: deal with Lovu. I did it whomever.

972
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Let me deal with one individual at a time, and

973
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: I think that they'll be better served with that. But

974
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 1: it was it was good that McLaurin got got his money.

975
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: And you know, look, whether we like it or not,

976
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 1: don't you know everybody is losing analytics analytics because guess

977
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: what else A everybody use it AI. Pretty Soon they

978
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: gonna come with AI. Did you be using AI to determine?

979
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, listen the game. The game of football

980
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: is still football at the end of the day.

981
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 3: I don't care what technology, what data, what analytics that

982
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: that teams try to go off of. Certain type of

983
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: players win you championships. You're going to need your dogs

984
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: in there. There's certain things that analytics and data can't measure.

985
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: They can't measure skill, they can't measure hard Sometimes you

986
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: got to use your eyes and goddamn common sense.

987
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: The Panthers trade Adam Feeling to the vic is that

988
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: the veteran receiver returns home he is from.

989
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: I'm in Minnesota. The teams agreed to park to squat pick.

990
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: The Vikings gave up a fifth round pick in twenty

991
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: six and a fourth round pick in twenty seven. Carolina

992
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: yields a conditional sefth round pick in twenty six and

993
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: a fifth round in twenty seven.

994
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: Oh Joe, Did the Vikings get better bringing them back?

995
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: I think they got better, just the veteran presidence in general,

996
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: just veteran president general having obviously Jordan Madison's going to

997
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: be out, so you have Adam Thinton that can come

998
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: in right now and play. And if you think about it,

999
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: I'm sure people probably don't see it. Probably don't know.

1000
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: But Adam Thineling and JJ McCarthy, they worked out an

1001
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 3: offseason together.

1002
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: They were getting even though that's not his quarterback, they

1003
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: were getting some robson. So there's a little bit.

1004
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: Of chemmission familiarity in that area in that sense. So

1005
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: really Adam Thineln coming back being a being able to

1006
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: acclimate right back to that offense, right back at home.

1007
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be fine. It's a great

1008
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: addition for them and obviously them the Panthers letting them go.

1009
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: Let you know how good and how much they believe

1010
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: in that.

1011
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: Jimmie Horn made the actor rosson Jimmy one junr MA.

1012
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: But you.

1013
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: You got damn right, Jimmy Hormen, We're gonna make it.

1014
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Jimmy Horn is one of the better rookies in the NFL,

1015
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to rock running and being able

1016
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: to create separation and get open.

1017
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: So I understood that.

1018
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: Hell, Jimmy was so goddamn good.

1019
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: They let brother Hunter winfro brothern winfro Go and winfrow

1020
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: is one, if considered one of the better rock runners

1021
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 3: and also a creating separation to be able to get open.

1022
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: But that's how good that's how good they are.

1023
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: Obviously, I'm very very high, very very high, And I've

1024
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: spoke highly of that receiving Corps over there in Carolina,

1025
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: and if they're to have a year and want to

1026
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: compete not only in that division, but have a successful season,

1027
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: is going to be upun that receiving Corps leading brother Bryce.

1028
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: Young to the Promised Land.

1029
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: So outside of that, I'm happy for Adam Thielen. He's

1030
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: gonna be just fine back in Minnesota. JJ McCarthy, justin Jefferson,

1031
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: Adam Thielen, and when Jordan Madison comes back, that's a

1032
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: nice trio to have.

1033
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: Kins who's another year removed from that ANDREI Aaron Jones

1034
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Yeah, I liked I like the move.

1035
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: Uh this is a Carolina's opportunity. I mean, I would

1036
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: have liked for him to stay there and help mentor

1037
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: those some of those young receivers ono that they have

1038
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: in Carolina, but that Carolina's look like, it's our guys.

1039
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: It's time for them to grow up. It's time for

1040
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: them to grow up. We're counting on these young guys.

1041
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: You got mc millan, you got looked at, you got

1042
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: uh cochat Jimmy Horn Jr. Like you said, so they

1043
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: got some young talent. Now it's just time for them.

1044
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: They don't have a what you call a veteran presence

1045
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: in that locker room with you at the receiver position.

1046
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: They have veterans on the team, but I like, I

1047
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: like to move what. I've been disappointed if Carolina said no.

1048
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: But they said, you know what for a fourth round

1049
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: pick in twenty seven? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we go ahead.

1050
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: We let y'all have we, let y'all have this.

1051
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: And I understand Minnesota because, like you said, Jordan Adimson

1052
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be gone for three games. So now we

1053
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: got somebody to come in that a veteran presence that

1054
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: understands the gravity and the magnitude of these games that

1055
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: they can't. They're in a very tough division, O Joe.

1056
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: That Green Bay is in that division, Detroit's in that division.

1057
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: We believe Chicago will be better than in that division.

1058
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: So Detroit's like, nah, we don't really have any excuses,

1059
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: We don't have any slippage. We want to get off

1060
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: hit the ground running, and I think Adam Thieling gives

1061
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: them a great opportunity to do that.

1062
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: So I like the trade for both.

1063
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: But if Carolina said nah, to keep Adam feeling and

1064
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: to help him groom some of these young guys, I

1065
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been upset at that either.

1066
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to understand why they let them go.

1067
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: I think people in the chest need to understand when

1068
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: it comes to veteran players that are on teams and

1069
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: you have a young receiving corps that is impressed not

1070
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: only in the preseason but in training camp, that's the

1071
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 3: only time you let a visitan predence presence of a

1072
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: player like Adam Thielen go.

1073
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: Because you trust what you've already seen.

1074
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: You trust with those young those young bulls are put

1075
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 3: on film, so now we know, you know what, we're

1076
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: gonna be okay, We're gonna be okay, and we're gonna

1077
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: let them boys take the torch.

1078
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: And that's your feeling. Look, a part of us all

1079
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: want to go back home. You know, Dorothy Darthy wanted

1080
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: to go back to Kansas.

1081
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: That was.

1082
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: A part of us o jo, A part of us

1083
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: want to go back to where it started from. And

1084
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, if you think about it, what a normally

1085
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: tip when a lot of people escape where the first

1086
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: place they go.

1087
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: They catch them at home. They go go back, go

1088
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 4: hold familiar surroundings.

1089
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: And so I think for Adam, Adam, you know, he's like, man,

1090
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm from Minnesota.

1091
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: I spent the first ten years of my career in Minnesota.

1092
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: You know what, my family, he's probably Minnesota's probably going

1093
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: to be home for him.

1094
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1095
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably thinking it didn't know if it

1096
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: would ever come to fruition.

1097
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: He's probably thinking, man, I should I would like to

1098
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: get home. I showed would like to.

1099
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: You know, phenish player last year or two in Minnesota,

1100
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: and here it is, he's going home, and Minnesota pull

1101
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: off a swap to give him a fifth round pick

1102
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: in twenty six and a fourth round in twenty seventh.

1103
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: Carolina get gets say seventh round pick in twenty sixth

1104
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: and a fifth round in twenty six of it.

1105
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: So I think everybody's happy on Joe.

1106
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: But like you said, those young receivers in Carolina, they

1107
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: did they impressed enough that Carolina was willing to move

1108
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: off a veteran presence, a guy that's steady, dependable, you

1109
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're gonna get.

1110
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: He's hard working, he's he's a.

1111
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: Guy that can minder the young guys, but they say,

1112
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: you know what, these young guys are ready

1113
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: H