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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Plenty of OTA takes

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Speaker 1: along the way, as John Harris and I will evaluate

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Speaker 1: what we saw at the Houston Methodist Training Center on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We begin the show with a conversation with case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: who tells us how his off season is going, among

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Speaker 1: many other things.

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Yeah, I appreciate you asking. It's been been

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Speaker 2: really good. Travel a little bit getting back in the

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Speaker 2: swingy things with OTAs week one here with practice. Always

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Speaker 2: good to get back and do a little bit of

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Speaker 2: football stuff. But man, it's it's been good. Pretty pretty hectic.

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Speaker 2: You know, the storm that came in last week. Here,

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Speaker 2: we're right in the middle of no power at our house,

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Speaker 2: but we're making a work. We got through. It could

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Speaker 2: have been a lot worse. We're very thankful. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's all. It's all good. Family's good, football is good.

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Speaker 3: Favorite moment of travel during your season, where'd you go?

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Speaker 3: It was your favorite?

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Speaker 2: M We went up to the mountains for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, Yeah, we were all of my wife's family

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Speaker 2: went up and ged and so I went up and

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Speaker 2: just kind of watched and hung out at the you know,

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Speaker 2: made sure that the you know, the bar at the

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Speaker 2: at the base of the mountain, didn't go anywhere yet,

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Speaker 2: so I got to watch some Cougar basketball. It was

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Speaker 2: right in the middle of March madness, so watched a

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Speaker 2: few good games there. Yeah, that was probably it. See

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Speaker 2: my son get on the little slopes. There was pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: Part of a busy offseason. We know you have your

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Speaker 1: camp coming up. We'll talk about that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: But ot as, what do you get out of ot as?

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Speaker 1: What are you working on individually and with the team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you studied last year's film, you know, and and

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Speaker 2: I had a little bit of film, which is nice

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Speaker 2: to study game film, not just practice film. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you improve in areas that you need to improve in, uh,

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Speaker 2: and then you continue to work work at things that

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Speaker 2: you're good at. And I mean that's football, that's life,

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Speaker 2: that's uh what we do in the off season, and

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Speaker 2: you just keep training yourself. You're never happy with where

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Speaker 2: you're at. You never content. You know, you're you know,

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Speaker 2: I think you're comfortable and you're confident, but you're not

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Speaker 2: content with where you're at. And even even the good plays,

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Speaker 2: what could I have done better and made it more efficient?

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Speaker 2: Because you know, sometimes the rush is not always perfect.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes protection is not perfect. Okay, let's work

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Speaker 2: on you know, a little bit of mechanics here, a

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Speaker 2: little bit of decision making here. And then it's nice

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Speaker 2: being in the second year of an offense and you know,

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Speaker 2: not starting on page one. Uh, you know, we go

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Speaker 2: back to the basics and and you know, we do

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Speaker 2: go to page one, but we can get through it

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Speaker 2: a lot faster than we were when we were all learning.

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Speaker 2: You know what a blank route is, you know, whatever

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Speaker 2: that is, whatever this route is, we're teaching it, and

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Speaker 2: it's just reteaching ourselves. And so okay, yuh, let's not

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Speaker 2: watch other people do it. Let's watch our own film

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I ask your question based on knowledge of

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Speaker 3: the game and especially the run game quick stories last year.

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Speaker 3: Turning Tennessee game, I'm kind of looking at Tennessee's defense.

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Speaker 3: I look over and I don't see you. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: where the hell a case go? Where do you go?

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Speaker 3: And then really, you were in between LT and whoever

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Speaker 3: and I thought, okay, and then you went to a

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Speaker 3: run play I think you checked to a run play

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Speaker 3: You were over there talking to them. It got me

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Speaker 3: thinking about knowledge because you've been in a passing game forever.

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Speaker 3: You understand a passing game. When did your knowledge of

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Speaker 3: the run game and went to check to certain things

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Speaker 3: in the run game really developed for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's evolved in different offenses. Uh, there's there's obviously

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Speaker 2: a lot of philosophies running the football, different different schemes

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Speaker 2: that the teams like to run. And I've been in

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Speaker 2: quite a few. You know, I like this offense and

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Speaker 2: this I prefer this scheme, and having some experience in

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Speaker 2: it was you know, we don't do a lot of

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Speaker 2: what the center's doing. So in that instance, I think

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Speaker 2: get into this certain play, and so we had to,

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Speaker 2: you know, push the mic point a little bit further

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Speaker 2: out than we normally did. Luckily, everybody was you know,

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Speaker 2: and it worked out for a pretty big play on

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Speaker 1: Yes, we had so many mind blowing games last year case,

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Speaker 1: but I'll never forget the Texans going up to Nashville

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Speaker 1: and beating the former Oilers and you quarterbacking that game.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be one you'll always take with you

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Speaker 1: no matter what you do in your career.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt, you know. And I enjoyed that week.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed getting to play, to strap on the Texans

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Speaker 2: helmet again and to go, you know, play some snaps

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Speaker 2: that really mattered. I don't know if I really understood

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Speaker 2: some of the gravity of that moment till after the

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Speaker 2: season and what it meant to get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: what it meant to so many Houstonians seeing those those

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Speaker 2: baby blue jerseys on the other sideline side. Note, I

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Speaker 2: love that you have HS just rolling right, so you know,

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Speaker 2: I love you Blue there. But man, I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think this whole offseason and running into people and

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Speaker 2: talking about that game, it's been really special to me

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Speaker 2: being around town and seeing the feedback I've gotten from

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Speaker 2: that everybody that watched that game got to be a

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Speaker 3: Case, when did you realize last year's team had something

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Speaker 3: a little different. Obviously you weren't here in twenty one,

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Speaker 3: twenty two, but you've been around some teams that have

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Speaker 3: done some things, gone to playoffs, done some of that.

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Speaker 3: When did you know that last year's team had a

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Speaker 3: little something maybe different than what previous iterations of the

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Speaker 2: And it's so hard to point to a moment, especially

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Speaker 2: of ball from last year. Yeah, and man, there was

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Speaker 2: some really good offensive stuff that we put on tape

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Speaker 2: seven played some absolutely astounding football. It's really fun to

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Speaker 2: just just kind of as as it grew. You know,

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Speaker 2: and any one of those games could have gone either way.

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Speaker 2: You know, there were so many one possession, one play

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Speaker 2: and we do it, you know, and then do it

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Speaker 2: again the next week and we won more than we

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Speaker 2: went up to Indian did it? You know? CJ made

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Speaker 2: some incredible plays, Nico. I mean across the board, there

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Speaker 2: were incredible plays. And I'm obviously offensive minded and little

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Speaker 2: jad because we're watching a lot of that film, but

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Speaker 2: I know there were some huge plays on the other

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Speaker 2: side too. Yeah. Right now, we're just competing against the defense.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give any credit, of course, but

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Speaker 2: that's the that's the off season mode when we're going

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Speaker 2: against the the uh you know the Texans right now.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, there were so many cool moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're going to a former workplace this year, Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: and you happen to make the greatest play in the

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Speaker 3: It's been voted that.

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Speaker 1: And Stefan Diggs was on the other end of that play,

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Speaker 1: and he's here. Now, what about him and the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the pass catchers?

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Speaker 1: Because you have a lot of good guys back, you

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Speaker 1: have some new guys as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. I mean you look across the board

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Speaker 2: and there's there's some really good bass catchers and some

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Speaker 2: out of the backfield. You know that we got to

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Speaker 2: add too. So I love our offensive weapons right now.

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Speaker 2: I think those guys getting on the same page. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of history with Steph. This would

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Speaker 2: he's gonna fit in this offense so well. Such an

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Speaker 2: any situation. And with this offense, with the aggressiveness of

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Speaker 2: you know, Okay, let's look over here, Nico. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: look over here. Okay, Well there's Steph. Oh well, okay,

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Speaker 2: there's Tank in the slot. All right, there's Dalton. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll get I mean, it's it's a lot of really good,

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Speaker 2: And I think we're all we're all here for one reason,

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Speaker 2: all working extremely hard. I love what I'm seeing and

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be a Texan case.

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Speaker 3: It felt like we're close enough to you guys, but

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Speaker 3: we're not in the locker room every day. But we

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Speaker 3: felt like as we saw you guys, that there was

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Speaker 3: a level of camaraderie at seemingly every position. You guys

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Speaker 3: seem to have that with the quarterbacks, you guys go

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Speaker 3: and have your dinners or whatever you guys were able

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Speaker 3: to do. But it felt like last year's team had

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Speaker 3: kind of a kind of a special camaraderie and that

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Speaker 3: seemingly helped you in those tough situations. Is that the

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Speaker 3: way you look at it is this team have a

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Speaker 3: little bit of different sort of camaraderie in togetherness.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt all the best teams I've been on

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Speaker 2: many they really loved each other. We may not always

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Speaker 2: like each other. I think we like each other most

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Speaker 2: of the time here, but man, there's so much love

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Speaker 2: and respect on this team, across offense, defense, across position, rooms,

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Speaker 2: across backgrounds, you know, racist religions. I really that's why

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Speaker 2: I love locker rooms in general, but this one in particular.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that care about each other

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Speaker 2: and and want each other to succeed, want each other

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Speaker 2: to be better, And yeah, we like hanging out with

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Speaker 2: each other. So I think quarterbacks we have a really

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Speaker 2: good rapport in there. We've built, we built a good

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Speaker 2: reputation of of accountability, competition, you know, and just honesty

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Speaker 2: I think we can just keep continue to build on,

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Speaker 2: you know, the foundation we set last year.

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Speaker 1: Case tell us about your camp June twelfth at U

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Speaker 1: of H again.

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Speaker 2: You know, the second year, first year is at U

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Speaker 2: of H. This year, we're actually moved to camp out

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Speaker 2: to Cyprus out where I work out actually all in athletics,

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Speaker 2: doctor Lou out there. I've been going to see doctor

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Speaker 2: Lou over at all in for I guess now thirteen

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Speaker 2: fourteen years. I've been working with him. He has basically

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Speaker 2: put me back together in the off seasons and ship

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Speaker 3: That is easy stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more for you. You're still the all

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Speaker 3: They got to go out and execute. Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: The guy got shot. I don't know how many weeks

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Speaker 3: Like you've said a million times. I hate I hate

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Speaker 1: he had catches. It just didn't seem like that was

431
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Speaker 1: the Mechi. They felt like they were getting, and it

432
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: felt like he wanted to be coming out of Alabama. Obviously,

433
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Speaker 1: going through what he went through takes a big toll

434
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: coming back from an injury anyway, on top of that

435
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: or underneath that big deal. So maybe it takes a while.

436
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Remember CJ. Strad when the off season program began, was

437
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 1: talking about Metchi looking really sharp. I saw what he

438
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: was talking about. Mehi looked really sharp. Metchi is don't

439
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: forget about me, guy. When you have digs, Tank Nico, etc.

440
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: Mechi is here to say I want to play too,

441
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: give me the rock. I'm gonna be able to make

442
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Speaker 1: plays for this football team. We'll see how it all goes.

443
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: But I was really encouraged, if not excited, about what

444
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Speaker 1: I saw from John Metschi.

445
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Speaker 3: Okay, I mentioned it kind of in passing a little bit.

446
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: I want to expand on it a little bit. Joe

447
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: Mixon yep. First of all, I remember when he came

448
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: in here for an interview and shook his hand. I'm like,

449
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 3: his idol is Adrian Peterson. Like that's why he went

450
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma, That's why he were twenty eight because that's

451
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 3: what Adrian Peterson wore. Like, Adrian Peterson is his guy. Yeah,

452
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: he's got Adrian Peterson's handshake. I mean, his hands are strong.

453
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: He's a I mean he is put together like a

454
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: Greek of Donnas. And so he's been in the league

455
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 3: a little bit and so you're like, okay, what kind

456
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 3: of juice does you have. He took the first handoff

457
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: and he shot through the line of scrimmage and took off,

458
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Speaker 3: and I was like, I mean I was almost taken aback,

459
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Speaker 3: Like what And I've seen I've been on the sidelines

460
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Speaker 3: for a Joe Like I've seen Joe Mixon in action.

461
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: I think it's just seeing him now for us, it's like, whoa,

462
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: that seems so out of place compared to what we've

463
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Speaker 3: had at the running back position lately. Yeah, we haven't

464
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Speaker 3: had guys with that kind of juice. Well like that,

465
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Speaker 3: think about this.

466
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Speaker 1: As good as Devin was, I don't want to take

467
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Speaker 1: away from anything we've seen over the last few years.

468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Here's his twenty twenty two season, and even Lamar Miller

469
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: and Carlos Hyde, this is the best back they've had

470
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Speaker 1: in the house since Arian Right, Yes, the best back

471
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Speaker 1: they've had in house. Now, how it all goes, we'll

472
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Speaker 1: find out, sure, But you're looking at a guy who's

473
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Speaker 1: approven VET. Now, you didn't get Barkley, you didn't get Derek.

474
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: Henry got Joe Mixon, who's outstanding and was part of

475
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team and all of that and a

476
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: really great offense in this league and now he's with you,

477
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Speaker 1: so you should get excited about that.

478
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Speaker 3: He's just different. He's different from what you've had because

479
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 3: there's no that's the right way I can say this

480
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 3: on the radio. There's no half step in with him.

481
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 3: Like he took every handoff and it was like it

482
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Speaker 3: was the third quarter of the Super Bowl. I mean,

483
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: he is downhill in a hurry, and I think that

484
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Speaker 3: more than anything, will help this offensive line no matter

485
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: how it's configured. And obviously today we looked out there like, okay,

486
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Speaker 3: there's no Titus, is no layer on me. There was

487
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Speaker 3: no shocks, so there were you know, they were the

488
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Speaker 3: combinations of which you think the starting offense line is

489
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: gonna be wasn't really there. But still you saw mix

490
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: and take the ball and just go. There was no dancing,

491
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: there was no hesitation. There was I will read this

492
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Speaker 3: on the run, and man, it was fun to watch

493
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: thinking about what he can actually bring to this offense

494
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 3: and the way that he can get downhill. But I'll

495
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: make sure I say this clearly too. Damian Pierson and

496
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: Demika Ryans talked about Damien Damian Pierce looks much more

497
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: comfortable in this offense and just how he's moving around.

498
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: Had caught probably two or three passes during eleven on

499
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Speaker 3: eleven and a couple and seven on seven, and Demico

500
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Speaker 3: talked about it. Hey, what if you get essentially a

501
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Speaker 3: one two combination, a one two punch with Mixon and

502
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Speaker 3: Pierce and Damien can get back to what he looks

503
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Speaker 3: like in twenty twenty two and Mixon stays healthy. Man, Wow,

504
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: holy smokes.

505
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Speaker 1: Not only can you do it, you need to do it.

506
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Speaker 1: You absolutely have to have a two in the one

507
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Speaker 1: to two punch. Mixon's one, Pierce has to be two.

508
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: Or Jawar Jordan or Dare or somebody else is gonna

509
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Speaker 1: have to step up and be the two. You need

510
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Speaker 1: to backs minimum to make noise here. And I'd love

511
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: to see three or four for that matter, just Jordan,

512
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Speaker 1: like you would say, not so much on the hoof,

513
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: but out there at OTAs running with the football. He

514
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: looked fast. Ye look it's Ota is not padded whatever.

515
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: But it was fun. It was fun to see him.

516
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him when they get in

517
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Speaker 1: pads at training camp and in these preseason games. Could

518
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: because the preseason games are must see TV. You know,

519
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna end up playing. It always happens

520
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: in this league. So you're gonna rest a lot of

521
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: these starters or they're gonna get minimal reps at best.

522
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Speaker 1: You have four preseason games because you have the Hall

523
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Speaker 1: of Fame Game August first. They have not released an

524
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Speaker 1: official training camp start date. I would put it seventeenth, eighteenth,

525
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Speaker 1: nineteen something around there. That Thursday Friday, two weeks prior

526
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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame game. But you're gonna see

527
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Speaker 1: a lot of those young players, and I cannot wait.

528
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Speaker 1: Jerard Jordan's somebody to get really enthusiastic about heading into

529
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. All Right, I've got some hidden, so

530
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: hidden but important things to point out. I think they're important.

531
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Speaker 1: Andrew Beck didn't practice today for whatever reason. Troy Harriston's

532
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Speaker 1: back missed last year with the injury. This is a

533
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Speaker 1: hammerhead full back who has pass catching skills, who transferred transferred,

534
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: who switched from the D line to a full back position.

535
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: He came out of transferred its in the position portal

536
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and became a full back after playing on the D

537
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Speaker 1: line at Central Michigan. And he's he looks physically built

538
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: and he was like tanks. He was here all last

539
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Speaker 1: year working on his body rehab, getting ready for his

540
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Well, here it is, and I'm really

541
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Speaker 1: really interested to see what he can do in this offense.

542
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Speaker 1: How well he picks it up, can he embrace the

543
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: pass catching part of it. How much of a threat

544
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Speaker 1: or competition counterpart he is to Andrew Beck. This is

545
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Speaker 1: going to be one of those storylines in training camp.

546
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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of looking you know good body types, Mike

547
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: you Banks has done some work with with these group.

548
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: I mean they have developed one player in particular. A

549
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: lot of people have asked me about it. I've asked

550
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: you about it, killing questions about is Kenyan Green? Yeah,

551
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: and there's there's you see him today. He's wearing number

552
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: seventy six. Yeah, he's got the white long sleeves and

553
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 3: he's got the black wrist braces. And it's a dead

554
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 3: ringer for Dwayne Brown. I mean I was like, whoa.

555
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: But what stood out to me the most is he

556
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: got the message. He got the message. He's like, go

557
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: get rehabbed, go get it right, and then once you're

558
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: done rehabbing, build the body.

559
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Speaker 1: I think your message was their message because this is

560
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: what you were saying, since you have to sit, get

561
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Speaker 1: the body right, feel everything, everything a reset button in

562
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Speaker 1: your career.

563
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Speaker 3: Now does that translate to play on the field. We'll

564
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Speaker 3: find out. Yeah. I always felt like Kenyan Green was

565
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: a really, really, really good football player. Really liked him

566
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Speaker 3: at A and M I wasn't the only one. I

567
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: thought that there were a lot of people. If Kenny

568
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: Green would have been around two more picks, the Chargers

569
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Speaker 3: were going to take him. You know, there were a

570
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Speaker 3: lot of people that loved Kenyan Green. But he had

571
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Speaker 3: to get his body right, and I think he's I

572
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: only get into a point year three. Remember Jevion Clowney

573
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: year three, Jevian Clowney first year. Obviously all his injuries,

574
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: there was maybe some things he'd had in the past.

575
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: Get those all fixed, come back in fifteen. Wasn't quite ready,

576
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: still miss some time since at the end of fifteen,

577
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back in sixteen and wreck just wrecked

578
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: the league and he did twenty sixteen. He was like, oh, man, okay,

579
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Speaker 3: this is why we drafted this guy number one. And

580
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: I think that could be the same case for Kenyan

581
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: Young dude had to get his body right, had to

582
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: rehab everything that ailed him, and if he can stay

583
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: healthy now and stack days one after the other, Kenyan

584
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: Green's gonna end up being that first round pick and

585
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: play at that level that we expected a couple of

586
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: years ago. So to see him today, and we've seen

587
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: him at different points, but to see him in his

588
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: uniform today, I was like, ooh, okay, yeah, got the message.

589
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: Now it's just a scent. Can continue to ascend from

590
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: here and be that guy. Because if if Kenyan Green

591
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: solves the left guard problem, just as simple as former

592
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: first rounder Light goes on, he goes into left guard,

593
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: oh boy, oh yeah, Now all of a sudden, the

594
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: pieces start to fall into place and you're like, okay,

595
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: let's rock.

596
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Speaker 1: Well, you have such valuable depth if you can get

597
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: that to happen. And that's that's written in the script

598
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: based on where you drafted him. You want him to

599
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: be there and we'll see if he can make that

600
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: happen for himself. You know, with no Titus and Laramie

601
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: out there, it's great to see Blake Fisher getting all

602
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: those starting reps with the right tackle position, Charlie hex

603
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: manning things that left tackle because he's the swing guy,

604
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: anyway as it's written right now, and why not work

605
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: out Fisher at right tackle because that's probably an It's

606
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: going to be interesting. Titus is a tackle correct, Yes, yes,

607
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: but yes, everybody's not great. I don't know what you do,

608
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: but you know, like you said, let the pieces fall

609
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: into place. It'll all take shape during training camp somehow,

610
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: some way. All right, coming up, we're going to talk

611
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Speaker 1: about the rookies. We talked about Jaar Jordan a bit,

612
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: but let's get it some of the other guys who

613
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: were drafted higher. That is coming up here on Texans Radio.

614
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Speaker 1: Keep it a going here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermain

615
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: and John Harris with you. All right, Johnny, right back

616
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Speaker 1: to it. There was a TV show in seventy in

617
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: the seventies called the Rookies. Let's talk about the rookies.

618
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Speaker 1: We mentioned a lot of the events. We talked about

619
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Speaker 1: how good Tank looked, how great CJ looked, seven on

620
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Speaker 1: seven stuff, who wasn't there. We mentioned a few of

621
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Speaker 1: those items, but let's get to this. We mentioned Jawar

622
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Speaker 1: Jordan looking spry. I'll use that word again. But let's

623
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Speaker 1: talk about Kamari Lassiter. Because Lassiter was out there and

624
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Speaker 1: one of those impossible not to notice guys where they

625
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Speaker 1: put him, how he looked. Give me your assessment of

626
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Speaker 1: what you saw day one for us of OTA's day

627
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Speaker 1: two for them.

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Speaker 3: So last time we saw this team play game right,

629
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Speaker 3: it was the playoff game right, And who scored the

630
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: only touchdown for the Texans that day? That was Steven Simms.

631
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Speaker 3: That was Steven Simms. Now Steve's pretty fast, right, m

632
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: hm for four ish, maybe faster for four. So Steven

633
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: Simms ran a deep rout on Kamara Lassiter, and Kamara

634
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: Lasser was hip to hip step for step all the

635
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Speaker 3: way with Steven Simms all the way down the field.

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Speaker 1: That's a great observation. So you know it's football speed. Yeah,

637
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: it's football speed.

638
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: He knew what he had to do. He knew what

639
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: he had to do to get into hip pocket of

640
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: Stephen Simms. And and stay with him. Now, is Steven

641
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: Simms dk metcalf or DeVante Smith or you know, one

642
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Speaker 3: of the great receivers in the league. You know, Stephen

643
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: knows that he's not, and he's not. But Steven Simms

644
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: is pretty darn fast. And the whole point with Kamari

645
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: Laster was, well, I don't know if you can play

646
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: any outside. I don't know if he can. Man, I'm

647
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: telling you, I said it. Draft Knight, I said Draft Knight,

648
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: I said, I watched him. I don't know how many

649
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: times I never saw Kamari Lasser get beat because he

650
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: didn't have the speed down the field, not at all,

651
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: not at all. So let's will he Yeah, he's a

652
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: corner in the NFL. Derek Stingley's gotten beat down the field.

653
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: Derek's one of the fastest DB's in the league. Sauce

654
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: Gardner's gotten beat deep down it happens to DB's, it's

655
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: gonna happen, But that's not gonna be the Achilles hero.

656
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: Kamara Laster. One thing I always look for rookies. Do

657
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: you look like a rookie? Or if you took the

658
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: names and the numbers off the jersey and you just

659
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: were playing football, would you go, is that a rookie?

660
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: Is that not a rookie? Kamaria Laster, It felt that way.

661
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: Kate Stover, if you taken Stover in eighty seven off

662
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: his jersey, you would go, wait, which tight end is that?

663
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: Who do we sign? Is that? You would not think

664
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Speaker 3: that was a rookie Kate Stover saw a ton of targets,

665
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: a ton and he looks really good. Now again, he's

666
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: with the twos and the threes, so you still got

667
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: to say, but does he fit in with them? Oh? Yeah,

668
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Not only is he fitting with them, he stands out.

669
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Speaker 3: And when your rookie is doing that right now and

670
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: they could just stay healthy and build one after the next,

671
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: you know what's gonna happen. And that guy's coming off

672
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: an MCL issue that he had at Ohio State to

673
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: end his career, so not in his career, but that

674
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: plagued him throughout the last few games of his career

675
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: Ohio State. That was really noticeable to me how much

676
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Speaker 3: not only he fit in, but how much he stood out.

677
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: And then you go, wait, that's over. That's a rookie. Wow.

678
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the same thing. It looked like he

679
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: belonged at the very least. In fact, I don't know

680
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: if that's praise enough for him, because that's kind of

681
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Speaker 1: a category for me when we talk about OTAs in

682
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: training camp. He looks like he belongs. Stover looks like

683
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: he belongs in the league as a productive pass catching

684
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Speaker 1: tight end, if not more so I enjoyed watching that.

685
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: Now.

686
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Speaker 1: My one word review for Kalyn Bullock was big. He's

687
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: he towers over guys out He's tall. I mean, what

688
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: are the dimensions here?

689
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me get you what they're

690
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Speaker 3: I'm going six five? Yeah, what's his number again? Forty one?

691
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: Forty one?

692
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Speaker 1: Right now, it's six three. You know, it's funny, all right,

693
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: all right, he's six three, which for a dB is

694
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: pretty tall.

695
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: It's tall. Yeah, And how tall was Lonnie Balentine at safety?

696
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: He was like sixty two? Yeah, Lonnie was like six

697
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: to two, but Lonnie was like two fifteen.

698
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lonnie was built like Andre Johnson almost right. Not quite, sorry, Ray,

699
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: not quite. He just kind of reminded me of a

700
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: dB version of him. Yeah, but one ninety is the

701
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: listed weight for Bullocks, so he's kind of He's not

702
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: really lanky, wiry.

703
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: He's wire's probably probably a pretty good word. That's the

704
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: word I like. But I'm eager to see more of him,

705
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: just based on.

706
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: That's a tall safety out there. What can he do?

707
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: You know, they drafted him relatively high. They like him

708
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: a lot.

709
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: Mark Wait till you see him in games and see

710
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: he made a play and I want, I want to

711
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: say Utah, but I don't know if it's Utah. But

712
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: he was the middle of the field safety and it's

713
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: a it's covered three. It was either cover three cover one,

714
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: and so he's in the middle of the field, but

715
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: the quarterback is looking outside the numbers and launches throws

716
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: one towards the sideline and Bullock takes off And I'm

717
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: watching this play and I'm like, oh my god, look

718
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: at how fast he is. He gets to the ball,

719
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 3: makes it an interception all the way on their sidelande.

720
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: It was Kyle Hamilton like that play because Kyle Hamilton

721
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: did that against Florida State his last year at Notre Dame,

722
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 3: and the opener I saw Bullock do that, I was like, Wow,

723
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: he's got range, He's got speed, There's no doubt about that.

724
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: I think in games, we're gonna see him get comfortable

725
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: playing kind of that middle of the field and just

726
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: playing in coverage with some range, and I think it's

727
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to watch him. Now.

728
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: The one thing I think for secondary guys that they've

729
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: got they got to get up to speed with the

730
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 3: defense and what the defense asked them and how different

731
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: that is than what they were. I mean, look at

732
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Pechrie last year. You know, Jalen was in his

733
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: second year. He's kind of put in a position where

734
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: he was playing a little different role than he had

735
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: played the year before, and then different than what he

736
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: was doing at Baylor, and so it took a while.

737
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: But speaking of bodies, he looks like he's slimmed down.

738
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: He looks like he's moving pretty well. And he spent

739
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: some time with the media today and talked about that

740
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: and talked about just following his process and bouncing back.

741
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: You know, Peetrie's able to bounce back. And then you

742
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: get Bullock learning the game. You know, Jimmy ward not

743
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: look like he was thirty two or whatever the program

744
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: says is out there is. He looks like he's moving

745
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: extremely well. Now we all know what happened last year.

746
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: A lot older, you get banged up, you miss some games.

747
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: But I know what Jimmy Warden was on the field.

748
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: This defense played pretty well, and not only that, it

749
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: played really really smart together. And Bullock's got to fit in,

750
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: so he's got to learn everything. They can't have busts

751
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: and I think one of those catches by Hutchinson may

752
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 3: potentially have been a bust in the secondary and when

753
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: we'll see whether you know that's something that continues. Get

754
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: those things clean up. That's why I love about OTAs.

755
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: You get a chance, with no pressure go in fix

756
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: your mistakes. Oh, y is what this defense asked you

757
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: to do. Hey, this is where your eyes should have been,

758
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: and you coach him through it. And this coaching staff,

759
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: I think, led Bydimiko Ryans, is gonna be one that

760
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: can coach those mistakes out of him.

761
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Well, I'll point out one of those mistakes but was

762
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: a good thing for the defense in just a moment here.

763
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: But back to the safety position, and there are numerous

764
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: players like this on this team where I just say, oh,

765
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm just so glad they're here for depth, for spots,

766
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: starting for whatever they are needed for. And that would

767
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: be MJ. Stewart and Merrick Murray. See those two guys

768
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: out there, thought you know what those guys would have

769
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: been starting in twenty twenty one. Yep, And here they

770
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: are and they're helping you be deep, make plays anyway.

771
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: They'll be available to start if necessary. You know, Murray

772
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: can play Murray made one of the bigger plays of

773
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: last year.

774
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: If you remember playing at Jacksonville in Week three in

775
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: jamal agn you caught that ball across the middle and thought,

776
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: oh man, this is gonna be a big first down

777
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: and Murray popped him, popped the ball loose. Cashman got

778
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: on it and that let a drive go in the

779
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 3: other direction in the first half. Beautiful. He's come in

780
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: and made some big places for this organization.

781
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of takeaways, Derek Stingley Junior, I can't believe we've

782
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: gotten this deep in the sho without talking about him.

783
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: And he's not one to be taken for granted. This

784
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: guy is an elite level defensive back and he had

785
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: a pick today where you just you knew the ball

786
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly where they wanted it to be. But he

787
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: comes from out of nowhere and he makes a pick

788
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: sliding and you know, I'd love to see a replay.

789
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: It's semi one handed, and I just thought the ball

790
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: skills on Derek Stingley Junior are ridiculous. You know, his

791
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: grandfather was a receiver. He could be a receiver. He

792
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: could be a receiver.

793
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 3: You know, going into twenty trying to do the math

794
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: on my years here. Going into twenty twenty one, there

795
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: was some talk about playing him at receiver a little bit,

796
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: kind of playing a kind of a pseudo champ Bailey.

797
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: Champ Bailly back in the late nineties at Georgia played

798
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: both ways and and kind of doing it the same way,

799
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: maybe a few less offensive reps. Champ Bailly got to

800
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: the point by the end of the year he's playing

801
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: thirty thirty five reps offense and every down on defense.

802
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: But there was talking about him playing some at wide

803
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: receiver because they had a young receiver group. They had

804
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: just lost Jamar Chase and and Justin Jefferson, and so

805
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: there was a thought that, well, maybe Stingley they could

806
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: use him on offense. And then Stanton got hurt early

807
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: in the year and they didn't do it. Then he

808
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: had the foot surgery and missed the rest of the year,

809
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: but there was talk about putting him on offense for

810
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: that reason. I know Tank and Nico the rest of

811
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: the guys may not want to hear this. The best

812
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: hands on the team are number two or number twenty four.

813
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 3: What Derek sting has got the best hands on the team. What, Yes,

814
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: he's got the best hands on the team. Yeah. Absolutely,

815
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: he's got the best hands last the corner and he's

816
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: got the best He's got the best hands on his team.

817
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: Oh my, did you see? Okay, there are some great

818
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: catches last year. Yeah, who made the best catch of

819
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: all year? Here? Here ketch? He You could say he

820
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: made two of the five. The one on Marquis Brown

821
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: that he went up against the Cardinals where he went

822
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 3: up down the field going in the north, going south

823
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: to north and he makes that catch. And then the

824
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: other one he has against the Broncos going with sudden,

825
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: you could make you can make a case that those

826
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: two were the more difficult catches now, partially because c. J.

827
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Stroup throws to our guys, so he doesn't make the

828
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: catches all that difficult. You know, Kyler Murray and Russell

829
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: Wilson make the catches a little bit more difficult. So

830
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: Stingley had to have a couple. I'm telling you right now,

831
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: Derek Stingley's got the best hands on this team, best

832
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: hands on his team.

833
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I am interested in more information on this.

834
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop when we get guys in for media

835
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: days of the receivers of the DBS I'm gonna drop

836
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: that line. Derek Stingley has the best hands of anybody

837
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: in this building. And if sting were sitting in here,

838
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: he would not yes, but he wouldn't say whole lot.

839
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 3: He just not does.

840
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs has called and with like a word okay,

841
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: all right, okay, But.

842
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how we prove this, but I just

843
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: know that Derek Stingley has got tremendous hands because and

844
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: he can make plays on the ball. What about the

845
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: interest of the first reception to get Denver that will

846
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: tipped and the balls going a different direction? Is sting

847
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 3: catches like six inches from the ground.

848
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: You know who can settle this? Demko, He'll be honest

849
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: about it.

850
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 3: He'll be honest.

851
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: We'll ask him, all right, Well that's the head coach

852
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: of ask him. And we'll also fire up the lie

853
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: detector on at least one item that occurred in the

854
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours around the National Football League and

855
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: then some here on Texans All Access, Mark Vandermir John Harris,

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Speaker 1: We're back at it OTA's underway organized team activities, boys

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Speaker 1: and girls. There will be a quiz on this later,

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Speaker 1: all right, Johnny, The Texans Radio lie detector. I've got

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Speaker 1: one item today. This involves a Texans opponent, and you

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Speaker 1: have to tell me if the coach or the person

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Speaker 1: in question is lying or not.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, I love light detector. Love. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, who's the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: We all know what happened to him at Denver as

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Speaker 1: the head coach, and it all went belly up out there.

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Speaker 1: Then he comes to the New York Jets because Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is there and Rogers loves him, and they did

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Speaker 1: make some good offensive music together in Green Bay, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't go so well for the Jets offensively after

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Speaker 1: Rodgers got hurt following four plays in. But anyway, Hackett says,

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Speaker 1: and I paraphrase, I believe Robert Sala has full confidence

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Speaker 1: in me.

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Speaker 3: That's a lie. Okay, that's a lie. Yeah. Now I

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Speaker 3: should say, from this perspective, what he said I don't

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Speaker 3: think is true. I think he might believe it. I

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Speaker 3: think Robert Sala does not have a ton of confidence

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Speaker 3: in uh Nathaniel Hackett. In fact, he a ban There

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Speaker 3: was a rumor that the Jets were trying to bring

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Speaker 3: in somebody that would replace that Daniel Hackett, maybe not

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Speaker 3: the name offensive coordinator, but would run the offense.

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Speaker 1: It's New York and you know they're going right to

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Speaker 1: that story. They don't care about anything else other than

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Speaker 1: Rodgers being healthy. Okay, now let's focus on this.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Okay, Now, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: flip it on you. Okay, I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 3: hot take. I mean, this is a fireus. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: gets hurt this year, Nathaniel Hackett is out immediately.

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Speaker 1: Maybe out as a play caller. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: else is on staff there who can possibly call play,

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Speaker 1: but out of the play caller, out as a play caller, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think almost immediately.

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Speaker 3: I can't say that's like a one or two cizzl fires.

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Speaker 3: That's not a high. That's not high.

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Speaker 2: I know it's three.

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Speaker 1: I think it's three, three and a half. It's because, look,

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Speaker 1: this is unusual. When you change play callers in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a season or during a season, it's not

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Speaker 1: a good thing. I was here for two thousand and five,

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Joe penbry Over, Chris Palm or anybody,

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Speaker 1: and it happens other places. As well, it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: go as well as you wanted to because it wasn't

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Speaker 1: going well in the first place, and very often changing

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Speaker 1: the play caller is not going to make the difference.

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Speaker 3: Now it has worked in some instances. I just think that.

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Speaker 1: If Salah, let's say Rogers was not the quarterback going

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Speaker 1: into last year, they did somebody else other than Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: They decided to make a move, they get somebody.

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Speaker 3: Else, Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way that Robert Sala hires

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett for the offensive court.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely one thousand percent agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Now, he brought little Lafloor, baby Lafleur with him to

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Speaker 1: New York.

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Speaker 3: That didn't work out. He had to fire him.

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Speaker 1: So that kind of sucked for Robert Sala because he's

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Speaker 1: the head coach and he wants everything to work out

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Speaker 1: as far as his hires go.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what direction he would have.

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Speaker 1: Gone in had he not had to hire Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's an interesting story. It's a fascinating story, really, yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and it's the Jets, so it's gonna garner all the headlines.

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Speaker 3: I'll ask you this. If Joe Flacco had been the

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Speaker 3: Jets quarterback for seventeen games last year, you think the

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Speaker 3: Jets end up making a playoffs. They were seven and

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Speaker 3: ten with essentially Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle's out Texan. I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to think if they had anybody else that played

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Speaker 3: in there, they went seven to ten. If Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: had been the quarterback, would they have made the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: No, Because Nathaniel Hackett is their offensive coordinator. In Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: you have Kevin Stefans.

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Speaker 3: It kind of I think proves the point, and that

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Speaker 3: is Robert Salid does not have the confidence in Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 1: I think Stefanski is a very good offensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people like Gary Kobe I think is

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Speaker 1: very highly of Kevin stefanskip and obviously they worked together

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Speaker 1: at Minnesota. Stefanski made it all work with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: They were winning games with whoever at quarterback. That's why

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Speaker 1: Watson should be thanking as lucky stars that Stefanski is

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Speaker 1: there to help him become whoever he can become at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 3: Of his career.

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Speaker 1: And Goodluck's selling not Yeah, I know, really, we don't

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Speaker 1: play them this year.

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Speaker 3: Do that's over? That little chapter is over? Is it

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Speaker 3: not done? Sea? Yeah, that's definitely a lot, there's no

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Speaker 3: question about that. I'm curious we play them week ten

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Speaker 3: Thursday night. If Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback, is he

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Speaker 3: going to stay healthy? How? You know's what's he got?

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Speaker 3: Basically an achilles tear for forty year old. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We'll see and what that then does to the Jets,

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Speaker 3: what it does then to Robert Solar going forward?

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Speaker 1: You know, talking to Case Keenum earlier about the game

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Speaker 1: at Tennessee, I mean that was an epic game obviously

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Speaker 1: in a season with so many and this season we

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Speaker 1: are going to have many more.

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Speaker 3: You think about that one.

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Speaker 1: That's just one of so many marquee busting games week

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those blockbusters season.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna do it for the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: This will be available in podcast forms soon enough, and

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Speaker 1: you can catch the case Keenum interview in video form

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Speaker 1: on YouTube as well. Area forty five is coming up next.

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Speaker 1: They will dissect the Texans, the Astros, all of it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to listen to. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss it. We'll be back tomorrow with another show

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Speaker 1: in McLean on Thursday, among other things that will happen

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Speaker 1: along the way here. Have a great night, Go Texans.