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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease. Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here

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Speaker 1: today is special edition with me a man we all

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Speaker 1: know and respect. IRV Brandt, Senior Inspector US Marshall Service

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Speaker 1: with International Investigations, Chief Inspector DOJ, Office of International Affairs.

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Speaker 1: Has worked at embassies all across the country. But you

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Speaker 1: may not know this about IRV Brandt. He is the

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Speaker 1: author of a series of books about Jack Solo, and

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Speaker 1: you can find him on Twitter at Jack Solo Author.

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Speaker 1: All of these books are on Amazon, but the one

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about today is Solo shot Curse

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Speaker 1: of the Blue Stone. You know, the first thing that

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Speaker 1: grabbed me when I saw this V is the front

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Speaker 1: of the book. I'm pretty sure that's Big Ben and Parliament.

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Speaker 2: It is Nancy and uh I specifically had that shot

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Speaker 1: I love that shot. And I'm not going to dwell

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Speaker 1: on the front of your book because what's inside of

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Speaker 1: the book is so much greater than the front. But

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Speaker 1: I love that you pigged that and then on the

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Speaker 1: back side, you know, it stretches around. It just really

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Speaker 1: puts me right there where everything happened. Okay, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I love Jack Solo. I love that he's a poker player,

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Speaker 1: and I love that he reminds me of this guy

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's see who if it it's IRV Brant,

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Speaker 1: because this guy is, as you say, a wise, cracking,

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Speaker 1: cheek inspector. That would be you with the US Marshall Service,

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Speaker 1: and you know the US Marshals. I got a soft

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Speaker 1: spot in my heart for the US Marshall's and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. My first investigator slash bodyguard in the

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Speaker 1: District Attorney's office was a former nfler, Robert McPherson. Everybody

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Speaker 1: called him Mac. This guy had to be six ' eight,

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Speaker 1: he's built like a fridge, and we went everywhere together.

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Speaker 1: He had been assigned to the elected district Attorney, mister Slayton,

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Speaker 1: and mister Slayton loaned him out to me and he

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Speaker 1: went on to become the US Marshal for the Northern

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Speaker 1: District of Georgia. And I just thought so much of him,

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Speaker 1: and that was really my first contact with the US

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Speaker 1: Marshall's Office. You could have picked a better character than

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Speaker 1: Jack Solo. So tell me how did you come up?

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Speaker 1: Because he's kind of like you, yet he's so different

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Speaker 1: as well. He's kind of like Indiana Jones. He's kind

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Speaker 1: of like James Bond, He's kind of like Brant and

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Speaker 1: intertwine the US Marshall Service throughout the book to open

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Speaker 1: up doors and avenues and little nunspots across the world

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Speaker 1: that only a US Marshall would know about unless you're

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Speaker 1: Indiana Jones. So I had to come up with Jack Solo.

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Speaker 2: Well, Nancy. I started writing the Jack Solo series when

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Speaker 2: I was with the US Marshall Service before I retired,

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Speaker 2: and since I worked for the Department of Justice, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't publish the novels, and so it was when I

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Speaker 2: retired in twenty seventeen that I started publishing my books.

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Speaker 2: But how I came up with Jack Solo. He's a

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Speaker 2: fictional character, but he is based on my experiences, and

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Speaker 2: there's a little of me in him, of course, But

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Speaker 2: he's also the character. His genre, his attitude, his characteristics

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Speaker 2: are based on some of my favorite authors and their

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Speaker 2: Myron Bolletar, and particularly Robert Kraft his detective Elvis Cole.

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Speaker 2: I think Jack Solo gets a lot of his sense

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Speaker 1: I love and he conjures up Indiana Jones but a

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Speaker 1: This new book solo shot, which has you know, a

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Speaker 1: secret meaning to itself, solo shot which I don't want

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Speaker 1: to give away, but the Curse of the Bluestone. How

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Speaker 1: many Jack solos have you written?

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, I'm deep into book eight right now. I've

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Speaker 2: published four. The next one should be out next year.

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Speaker 2: It's called Forever Solo Society's Dragon Eastrom which is Latin

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Speaker 2: for Order of the Dragon. And this one you're going

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Speaker 2: to love because it's okay.

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Speaker 1: All of us that don't speak Latin, which is everybody

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Speaker 2: You think everyone doesn't speak Latin, Really.

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Speaker 1: No one speaks Latin. Actually, remember it's a dead language.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Okay, Nancy, I think you're really going

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Speaker 2: the Origins of the Hope Diamond. Well, in Forever Solo,

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Speaker 1: Family Where what where? Which museum house is the Hope Diamond.

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Speaker 1: Because I've taken the twins to the Museum of Natural

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Speaker 1: But yes, that's where. So of course I was going

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Speaker 1: back to Jack's solo, how did you get the idea

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Speaker 2: Well, it was when I was working at Interpol Washington, DC,

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Speaker 2: someone possibly feel it from the British Museum. And that's

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Speaker 2: was going to be sent out on loan and Jack

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Speaker 2: So that's that's how the idea first formed, was just

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Speaker 1: So I guess wandering those halls, which one would you

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Speaker 2: But I always made time to go to the Vangu Museum.

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Speaker 2: And Nancy, I got to tell you, when you walk

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Speaker 2: because it just spoke to me so much that once

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Speaker 2: why they put the little couches out there for you

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Speaker 1: You might because I was thinking of the self portrait

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Speaker 1: his paintings from Arles. Now, you know, what's another interesting

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Speaker 2: Well, Nancy, I was born in a different time. I'm

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Speaker 2: a child of the Cold War, and when I was

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Speaker 1: So is that where you get the idea for the

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Speaker 2: It is, and I added a you know, few twists

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Speaker 2: to that. All the books, the first four novels, which

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Speaker 2: selfless plug are available on Amazon. You can get the

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Speaker 2: books a four of them for ten dollars.

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Speaker 1: But have you voiced them? Are they audio books?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you would read them for me, that would

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Speaker 1: You know, though it adds a lot is when people

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Speaker 1: Dolls to the Twins and voicing remember the witches. I

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Speaker 1: He did Matilda, he did Oh gosh. I read them

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Speaker 1: all the Witches to the Twins, oh, even the short stories,

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Speaker 1: terrible at it. Of course, they were only like two

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Speaker 2: of Collie Maw. And that's my fictionalization of the historical

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Speaker 2: facts of the Hope Dimon. But my fictional.

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Speaker 1: Suggy t h U G G E E. Did you

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Speaker 2: No? No, the they're ron. It is real. He was

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Speaker 1: And Thuggies are real.

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Speaker 2: The Thuggies were real. They were stamped out by the

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Speaker 2: or over one hundred without it doubt they make the

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Speaker 2: perfect bad guys. But I fictionalized that that the Thugyes

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Speaker 2: still exists as a secret crime syndicate.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good twist. And of course Solo gets

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Speaker 1: the keys of stealing Hope.

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Speaker 2: Diamond Jack just has some bad luck sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Man, he really does. You know, if he didn't have

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Speaker 1: bad luck, hedn't have no luck at all. I got

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Speaker 1: to say something. I love Curse of the Blue Stone.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and you're how far are you on

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Speaker 1: the next.

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Speaker 2: One on book number eight or the one that I'm

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Speaker 2: getting ready to.

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Speaker 1: Publish, Well, the one in book number eight. I thought

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Speaker 2: Oh I am, And you're really going to like this

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Speaker 2: one because it's mostly a Western that takes place in

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Speaker 2: San Francisco in eighteen eighty one, then also Tombstone, Arizona

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Speaker 2: and capture of Apache tribes, but fictionalize and give my

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Speaker 2: fictionalization twist that these Apache tribes don't want to give

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Speaker 1: Because I spend so much time in your head.

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Speaker 2: People ask me about that a lot, and I tell

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Speaker 2: them it's usually that it's because I'm from the state

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Speaker 2: of intoxication. That's where most of these ideas come. But

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Speaker 2: I also have dual residency because I'm also from the

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Speaker 1: I hear you on that completely After investigating Calm all

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Speaker 1: day on, I'm completely confused. Guys, you were hearing the

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Speaker 1: voice of my longtime colleague and friend, IRV Brand. Many

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Speaker 1: of you already know that he has been with the

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Speaker 1: US Marshall Service and International Investigations Chief Inspector DOJ's Office

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Speaker 1: International Affairs, working in multiple embassies, but also a best

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Speaker 1: selling author of the Jack Solo series. His latest Curse

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Speaker 1: of the Blue Stone, a Jack Solo mystery novel. It's

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Speaker 1: on Amazon. I love it and I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with US. Indiana Jones slash James Bond

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Speaker 1: slash Jack Solo slash IRV Brandt. Goodbye, friends, I'll see

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Speaker 1: you at the bookstore.