WEBVTT - Ep. 141 - Tom Coyne

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your

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<v Speaker 1>post Shane Bacon and this week's guest, Tom Coin, joins

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<v Speaker 1>a program again. Tom is traveling America writing another book

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<v Speaker 1>about travel, this time state side. He did one in Ireland,

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<v Speaker 1>he did one in Scotland. Now he's doing one of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. And we actually played a hundred holes

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<v Speaker 1>of golf about a week and a half ago for

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<v Speaker 1>a charity youth on course, so we talked a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that, But then of course we dove into

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening with the book and the travels and the

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<v Speaker 1>golf courses and if he wants to throw his golf

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<v Speaker 1>clubs in a lake or an ocean yet, how tough

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<v Speaker 1>that can be. As golfers, we all know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>times where you love it and you can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>get back out there, and there's times when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to look at your golf clubs. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great conversation. I love the guy. He is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the more interesting people you will ever find

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<v Speaker 1>in and around this game. So you'll enjoy the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. This week's Clubhouse podcast, as all of them are,

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<v Speaker 1>In Phoenix there's no golf because every golf course is

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<v Speaker 1>under the knife and being overseated, which is a huge bumber.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am actually headed to Oregon this weekend to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Bandon Dunes. I'm going to play a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of golf with a couple of buddies of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited about that. I'm also excited about this. I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Tom Coin is on the program. Tom is a

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<v Speaker 1>senior writer for The Golfers Journal. I've loved the Golfers

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<v Speaker 1>Journal since it first came out. I have a new

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<v Speaker 1>story coming out and the next issue that hits in November.

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<v Speaker 1>And something cool that they're doing for us is if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard, I have this hole in one fund basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you've seen this if you follow me

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<v Speaker 1>on social media at all. I've never made an ace

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. I'm thirty five years old. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty six in November. And I started this a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, just a jar, and I throw

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar in the jar every time I play around

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<v Speaker 1>a off without an ace. The jar now is over

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars. Now, I haven't played five hundred rounds

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<v Speaker 1>of golf in a couple of years. I have had

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<v Speaker 1>people donate, I've had friends send money in. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned this on Twitter last week and UH followers

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Rice and Nicole Montenez both donated on Venmo some

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<v Speaker 1>money to throw in there. Once I make an ace,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just take the jar to the Phoenix Children's

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<v Speaker 1>Hospital and give it to them. And I've also had

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<v Speaker 1>some friends of mine. I've got professional golfer buddies that

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<v Speaker 1>have promised to pledge some money once it happens, if

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<v Speaker 1>it ever happens. They said they'll pledge more money if

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually playing with me in the round that it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So a little extra pressure. But what the Golfers journal

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna do and what why this matters is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a specific subscription link I'm gonna send out

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. I will have it on my on

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<v Speaker 1>my Twitter feed and on my Instagram profile, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you click through that link and you sign up and

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the Golfer's Journal, they're going to donate a

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the money you send them to my Hole

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<v Speaker 1>in one jar for charity. So it really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a win win. You get the Golfers Journal, which is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Any golf fan that just likes to read interesting stories

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<v Speaker 1>that are evergreen and never go old, we'll love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, I have them all. I read them every

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<v Speaker 1>time I get them. Within the first couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Every story is interesting and different, and that's really what

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<v Speaker 1>they've been doing and changing really golf journalism in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll donate some money to charity, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>win win. It helps us out. Our idea is to

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<v Speaker 1>make the jar so overflowed that we have to get

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<v Speaker 1>another jar, which is kind of depressing because that means

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't made an ace. But hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, I can be seventy years old and

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<v Speaker 1>sit here with a few thousand dollars and know that

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<v Speaker 1>I can donate it somewhere or once I croaked, because

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<v Speaker 1>my iron plate is that that bad, I'm gonna make one.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, I'm gonna make one. I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are having a great week. As I said, I know

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<v Speaker 1>winner is approaching for people in the Northeast and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and parts of the country, and golf is basically dwindling down.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's you know, there's golf on TV. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna roll out some more podcast throughout the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have a little bit of a recap about Banded

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<v Speaker 1>Dunes and my opportunity to get to play nineholes on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sheeper Inches I'm very excited about. But for now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to our guest and we welcome back into

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<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse one of my favorite people in all of golf,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Cone. You can follow him on Instagram and Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at coin Writer, c O y in E Writer. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a senior writer at The Golfers Journal. He also hosts

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<v Speaker 1>The Golfer's Journal podcast, which I highly recommend, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is working on his fifth book. And I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Coin, this might be the biggest, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>planned event you've done thus far. A course called America.

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<v Speaker 1>Last I checked. America, a slightly larger place than both

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland and Scotland. It's the biggest undertaking of my life, Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. Yeah. I uh, I knew it was bigger

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<v Speaker 1>obviously than Ireland and Scotland, but it's proven to be

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<v Speaker 1>a beast. I'm I'm here in Massachusetts talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>right now. You're you're not. I'm talking to you from Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been wild, man. So I'm doing all fifty states.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing every US Open venue. I've been on the

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<v Speaker 1>road since April. You'll notice it's October and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be on the road through December. So by that

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<v Speaker 1>point I will have done you know, gold, I will

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<v Speaker 1>have golf in every state and it will probably about

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<v Speaker 1>be about two courses. Um. So, Yeah, there's just been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to see, uh, a lot to take in

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<v Speaker 1>and but it's been awesome, man, I mean it's just

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been really cool to get to know my

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<v Speaker 1>own country, which was the whole point to do in

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<v Speaker 1>this project, is that I knew sort of Ireland and Scotland.

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<v Speaker 1>I had traveled and researched there more than I had

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<v Speaker 1>in America. You know, I certainly knew Philadelphia. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been it's been awesome to get out and

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<v Speaker 1>be a tourist in in my own country. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when you when you first did the travel version

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<v Speaker 1>of your books and you started in Ireland, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine you ever envisioned that it would

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<v Speaker 1>become this. I mean, this is really it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>your stick. I mean, you traveled Ireland, you walked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the country, You played all these golf courses

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<v Speaker 1>nobody had ever heard of. And what I love about

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<v Speaker 1>your journey is I feel like you kind of jumped

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<v Speaker 1>into this basically focus on travel and focus on fighting

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<v Speaker 1>hidden gems right about the time that became popular. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we used to have a top of a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred board on our wall, and we look at the

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<v Speaker 1>top one hundreds by every golf publication out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>those were the courses we wanted to play. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I find so fascinated about what you've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do and uncover with your with your words in your

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<v Speaker 1>novels is you're showcasing a lot of places that once

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<v Speaker 1>you read about it, you want to go play there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has to be cool to finally get to

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<v Speaker 1>do that exact thing in America, because as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's your backyard and you know in reality, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's definitely the goal and it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>the best part of of all the books is to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of bring some light to lesser known places that

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<v Speaker 1>are deserving of visitors. You know. Um, yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea when you know, when I pitched the Ireland Book.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, I think I want to write a

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<v Speaker 1>book about golf in Ireland and this is like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll walk it. That'll be crazy, right, And then a

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<v Speaker 1>publisher says yes, and you're like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it. And and so you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>becomes the Scotland Book and yeah, and that and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of takes me to hear where I am, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to. I am visiting very

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<v Speaker 1>well known places, um, and I'm telling some of their

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<v Speaker 1>unknown history, which is cool. But I definitely it's always

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<v Speaker 1>about like the find the the you know, the hidden gems,

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<v Speaker 1>the places that people don't go. Um. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>was something that you know, the Ireland Book comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and and people and more people started going to carn

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<v Speaker 1>Or two Crouch Island. Um. With the Scotland books, some

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to Macrone that might not have known

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<v Speaker 1>about it, or to Shiskin, or to Murker. Um. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying the only reason that the people go there

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<v Speaker 1>is because of the books. But if it gets even

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<v Speaker 1>a few dozen people to go there in some of

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<v Speaker 1>these little places, that has a real impact. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been definitely the most gratifying experience of those

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<v Speaker 1>two books. So if I can sense more folks to

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<v Speaker 1>some of these places that I've found, um, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not just finding cool places. I'm finding like cool golf

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<v Speaker 1>trips in America, you know, like that where you could say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like who whatever, they can go in to Mississippi for

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<v Speaker 1>a buddy trip. But here's an idea for like a

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<v Speaker 1>really cool, you know, four day awesome golf trip in

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado and Mississippi or in Alabama or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's been you know, yeah, So I'm always on

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<v Speaker 1>the lookout for for fine stuff that's off the radar.

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<v Speaker 1>And how is how has it been juggling the social

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<v Speaker 1>media aspect of this, because really Scotland, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of led into Instagram and Twitter and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>really something I feel like you walk alongside I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you showcase where you're at and where you're playing, who

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing with. I know you have given ways with

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<v Speaker 1>some of your sponsors, like titlists where you can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can invite people to come out and play with

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<v Speaker 1>you and they get a chance to to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>be involved in the book. How has social media helped

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<v Speaker 1>both helped and in a way maybe even heard a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit giving away some of the stuff that you

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<v Speaker 1>know is going to be in the book. Yeah, it's true. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean social media, right with the other books, is

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<v Speaker 1>just like every couple of days, Hey look at this

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<v Speaker 1>cool picture. Um, It's it's a huge part of this

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<v Speaker 1>adventure though. Right from the start, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>announced the project, it was via Instagram and Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter that I got most of the course recommendations and

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<v Speaker 1>and also got most of the invitations, um from folks

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<v Speaker 1>to come play at them. You know. So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>hugely helpful in finding spots and in getting on them

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, obviously the challenge in America versus

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<v Speaker 1>Ireland in Scotland is that most of our golf courses

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<v Speaker 1>are private, so so it's been very helpful that way. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What's been cool about it is that this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>community is growing up around the trip um and that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know I didn't have with the Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>book and uh. And so right, like you said, when

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<v Speaker 1>I have an open tea time or have a spot somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I throw it out on on Instagram or Twitter and

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<v Speaker 1>and three dudes show up, um or sometimes more. And

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been pretty amazing. Uh. And that's been great

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<v Speaker 1>for the story. And then I'm getting to meet a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different people and get their stories, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just added a lot to you know, what will

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<v Speaker 1>be the larger narrative. Uh. You know in the Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>and Ireland books, like I invited a lot of friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still have friends coming on this trip. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like I'm inviting strangers. So like every day

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<v Speaker 1>I invite I'm playing with three or six usually you know,

0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.400
<v Speaker 1>people I've never met before. Um, the Instagram world and

0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.240
<v Speaker 1>in this listen, you and I are kind of in this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are people that that I can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that that are way bigger than us, that get

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<v Speaker 1>these invites all the time. But a part and and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm sure people know this, but a part

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<v Speaker 1>of quote unquote golf media is you do get invitations

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<v Speaker 1>a lot from people that are members of these really

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<v Speaker 1>knives golf courses, and it isn't in a way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting dynamic because you do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go play here with these people I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you go and you have an unbelievable experience, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the person is a little weird, or they might

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<v Speaker 1>ask a whole bunch of questions that you get asked

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. So it is I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a balanced you have, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>something that's helping you with the book. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>literally can can reach out and go I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just say, let's just say Birmingham. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in the Birmingham area this date, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>four invites to certain golf clubs that you're looking to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's, uh, yeah, it is funny how it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of mirrored now compared to maybe some of the other books.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you have to go, Okay, today, I'm gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>with these random people that have been following me on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram for two years. Totally. Yeah, it's and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really good. I it's you know, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>folks who have been kind enough and generous enough to

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<v Speaker 1>invite me places. But you, like you said, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>more than not. It's it's a matter of having to

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<v Speaker 1>say no because there's only so many days and so

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<v Speaker 1>many courses. It's a very good problem to have to

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<v Speaker 1>have more invitations than than you can actually fit into

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<v Speaker 1>your into your calendar. And you know my attitude, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's with the Scotland book and where I did play

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<v Speaker 1>with just a handful of strangers who came over to

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<v Speaker 1>play with uh to to join me um and and

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<v Speaker 1>had really good results with that UM in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>friendships and stories. I thought, you know, with this book,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell, I'm just gonna be totally open to

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<v Speaker 1>it and be happy to play with random people. And

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<v Speaker 1>and and from a storytelling point of view that if

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<v Speaker 1>I get weirdos, you know, that's actually really useful. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had enough weirdos, to be honest, I was

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<v Speaker 1>still looking for some. UM. This story needs some more villains.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a real jerk, um reach out at

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<v Speaker 1>a writer on Instagram, send him all of the mesas yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bring all your weird things, your iron head covers, your trinkets,

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<v Speaker 1>playing all of it, and he'll he'll definitely make the book. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you did get a chance to play with a weirdo

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. You played with me, and you played

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<v Speaker 1>with me at Olympic Club. You invited me to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of this thing with Youth on Course, which

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<v Speaker 1>they do an unbelievable job. And I'll let you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dive a little deeper into that. But about a

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half ago, we played a hundred holes

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<v Speaker 1>of golf in one day, something I've never done, something

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<v Speaker 1>you've never done, considering how much golf you play. To

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the most golf you've played in

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<v Speaker 1>one day, I have really felt like a big honor.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Yeah, by far the most golf I've ever played.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was so you were like, I can't, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe you said yes. And you were very quickly

0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.120
<v Speaker 1>said yes. Once you got the green light, um from

0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.320
<v Speaker 1>your better half. You you were in and uh, which

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it because I needed a friend to

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<v Speaker 1>do this with me and um, and you brought some

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<v Speaker 1>great attention to the to the cause as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Youth Phone Course. I met them at the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>show last year and they basically they're based out of

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<v Speaker 1>Monterey and they make it possible for junior golfers to

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<v Speaker 1>play um proper golf courses for five dollars, and they

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<v Speaker 1>underwrite their tea times. So it sort of picks up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the first tea, you know, that introduction to golf,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get to this point that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they saw this sort of void there of like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well where can they play now? They now they want

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<v Speaker 1>to golf and now what and and that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>barrier for for so many junior golfers. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is is really great. It's really smart.

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<v Speaker 1>They have mentoring even you know, beyond the golf for

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<v Speaker 1>for um kids that are involved with youthhone course and

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<v Speaker 1>um so they're a big fundraisers LL hikes. So even

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<v Speaker 1>back then I was like, yeah, I'd be into that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>This was by the way, the p g A show,

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<v Speaker 1>if people they don't know, is the very first month

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. So Tom was you know, he's Brian

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<v Speaker 1>eyed and she tailed for the year season. Oh that

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<v Speaker 1>would be great, not knowing that you know, five six,

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<v Speaker 1>seven months later he's gonna have to go play a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred holes after he's played thirty six a day for goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five months straight. Yeah, I mean it's January.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't played golf in there like you can plays golf.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, let's go do it right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, and then after the trip comes around, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been on the road, you know for months.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in I was in Bend, Oregon, the day before,

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia, the day before that land in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>We get to the golf course that you know, six fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty in the morning and uh, you know, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>in the dark, team off at seven o'clock. Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just another one of those great moments that golf

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<v Speaker 1>has given me, a lot of them that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I look around and I go, how the hell did

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<v Speaker 1>I get a here doing this? You know? And uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and there we were playing the Olympic Club. UM

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<v Speaker 1>a lot around and around and around, kept playing. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check out everything they do. It's Youth on Course

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<v Speaker 1>dot Org. They do an unbelievable job. We're big fans

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And uh. And if you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>donate or do whatever you can to help out or

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the Hunter whole hike going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it. What were you feeling like? What

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<v Speaker 1>what was your whole number where you were thinking, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>how many more do we have left? Um? Like four?

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<v Speaker 1>I think because I saw and everything, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can go chill over there and have snacks and

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<v Speaker 1>in water. Um no, I think there. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that initial excitement. You know, we go around the first nine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you're feeling good. Obviously you're still you're not tired yet. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it was probably after we stopped for lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>which you insisted on chowing down, and I'm glad you did,

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<v Speaker 1>um because the Hokies well subs whatever, they were delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>But after that, it was like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to golf. Yeah, fifty we stopped for

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<v Speaker 1>lunch at fifty two holes. We we we got to

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<v Speaker 1>we got the fifty and for some reason, so that

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<v Speaker 1>let's play two more. So you know, just because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're against us, we're against the establishment. We were playing

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two, not fifty and uh and I my golf

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<v Speaker 1>I brought golf shoes that are really comfortable golf shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't realize that they weren't waterproof. They're more

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<v Speaker 1>like the casual, non spike golf shoes, and I brought them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really dewey in the morning, so part of

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<v Speaker 1>my lunch break was to take my shoes and socks

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<v Speaker 1>off and let him dry out, which was the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing I did the entire day. But yeah, the the

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<v Speaker 1>going back after lunch knowing you had basically the entire

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<v Speaker 1>what you've just done already to do it again. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that was that was a wall. We both hit.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a wall. And and seeing the other golfers

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<v Speaker 1>finish like way ahead of us. Um. So for the

0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 1>folks who are listening, they were like, I don't know,

0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe twelve people at this site doing um the hundred

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<v Speaker 1>all like, and we were just spread around the property

0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.880
<v Speaker 1>trying not to bum like get each other's way. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like like during a marathon when there's

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<v Speaker 1>also a half marathon going on, and like the half

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<v Speaker 1>marathon is like split off to the finished line, and

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<v Speaker 1>like the marathon people have to keep going. Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it felt like, you know, watching these guys like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wrapped it up, and I'm like, jeez, because

0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and they were like and they these were veterans as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know they were playing with one club.

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<v Speaker 1>The most impressive thing was I mean they were so savvy.

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<v Speaker 1>They had those bald suction cup things like on their

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<v Speaker 1>seven iron so they didn't have to bend over to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the ball. I mean, talk about hundred whole

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 1>pros that was. That was a classy move. So they

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 1>were flying and you know they finish it whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're having lunch. They're wrapping it up and we've got

0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.239
<v Speaker 1>fifty holes to go. Um. It kind of breaks your

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<v Speaker 1>heart a little bit. I just want to take a

0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>quick break to remind you. Do me a favorite go

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<v Speaker 1>few years. And I think you're seeing that professionally. You're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it out on the driving ranges. You're seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends, the guys that always love to get

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing it all over the place and The reason

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<v Speaker 1>visiting titlist dot com. Back to top. Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>My number was. We were like at six eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like doing the math in my head because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not very smart, so it always had to do

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<v Speaker 1>the math to figure out how many more we had

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<v Speaker 1>left and away on sixty threes next and then sixty four.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know we were we were we were shooting

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff for you, and so we had some other

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<v Speaker 1>people around us, and we were all trying to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with the numbers. By the way, I am, I

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>am so bad at at counting when I need to count,

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<v Speaker 1>So like if I'm jump roping, I I never know

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<v Speaker 1>what number I'm on. If I'm trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred, I'll forget what number I'm on at about twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So playing a hundred holes, I knew I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to struggle with that and we might have played a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five holes, we might have played nine holes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chance that we could be at least five

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<v Speaker 1>holes off. But I remember we had thirty thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>holes left, and I was thinking to myself, this is

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<v Speaker 1>basically two rounds of golf we have left, and we've

0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 1>already played so much already. And uh, and that was

0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 1>about the wall I hit. But I made you, I

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<v Speaker 1>made you start yelling out how many holes we had

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<v Speaker 1>left when we got to play about fifteen and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and I think is excited to yell it out as

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that that was one less we had to play.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, yeah, it was a final funny And I

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<v Speaker 1>was just screaming them out, you know, and you could

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.119
<v Speaker 1>hear it all over the golf course. I think I

0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.199
<v Speaker 1>put a little pep in my step for sure. It

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>made it feel like we were approaching the finish line,

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.120
<v Speaker 1>even though it was still you know, tylds away. Yeah,

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>will you do a hundred holes again in your lifetime?

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You think? I don't know. I don't know, Shane. It's

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to sit for a while. It's not gonna

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>happen this year. You know. It's one of those things

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like the recall of the uh, the experiences. It's too

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it's too immediate. But and like with the marathon, you know,

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you do a marathon, you know, I'll never do that again,

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.399
<v Speaker 1>and then like six months later, sitting around and you

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.640
<v Speaker 1>sign up for another one. Um, I feel like that

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.919
<v Speaker 1>could happen. I've learned and having learned things from the

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>experience as well. I mean the people the one club thing,

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 1>which we did for a while for I think we

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>did that for likes or something we're going to do.

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>We're going to do it, and we were really big

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>fans of it. It was it was our face every

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>part of the day. That was smart. And we also

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>made up holes too. I think that was smart to

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>keep it interesting, like going from to tease to different

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>greens and stuff, because you know, just going around in

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>loop after you know, loop after loop, it gets really monotonous.

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.159
<v Speaker 1>So I have learned some things from doing it the

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>first time, I'd be more efficient the second time around. Um,

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to close the door on it forever.

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.919
<v Speaker 1>So would you do it? I'm I'm with you. I

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>said no. I was like, you know, that was great.

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we did it. It's a great cause. We

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>love youth. On course, you know, we hope we raised

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>him some some good money. And then I was flying

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>home the next morning. I was like, I'll never do

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that again ever the rest of my life. And then yeah,

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>now we're talking not even two weeks ago, and you're like,

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I could probably do it again. I could be convinced.

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>How many of you done doing these books? I mean,

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you've done this is your third one. What's the most

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you've played in one day? So I've never even done

0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the seventy two which some people do, like at the

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>summer Solstice stuff. Um so fifty four holes, but that's

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>at three different courses. Um in like Scottish Wind And

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I did fifty four holes in the Scotland book. I

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>did it like five days in a row. That was borderline.

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 1>That was that was the most depressing part of the

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>book when you were literally yeah, I was depressed doing it.

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I was depressed. I got depressed again writing it. It

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 1>was horrible. But um I got to slay all those

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>courses and cross them off my list, and and it's

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just, you know, the thing is with these stories,

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>like if you're not doing something unreasonable or pushing yourself

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>or like and and pushing yourself into weird, dark, uncomfortable

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>wild places or corners. Then you know that's where the

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>stories are. You know, nobody wants to hear about, Oh,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I played another great golf course today and then you

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>know I hung out on the patio. Lunch was delicious.

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>You know that's no one wants to hear about your

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>wonderful vacation. There's gotta be struggle, um, and I've definitely

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>built myself from struggle on the America trip um and

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>laying hundred holes was was a good addition to that.

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So describe to me your relationship with golf, Like right

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>now as you're in the midst of this and it's

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>your job. I mean, you're you're writing a book for

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>your family and for your living and for your livelihood,

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing a podcast based around golf, and you've

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>got some video series that you're that you're using and

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>putting out on social media. Golf is a big part

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>of what you are currently doing in your life, and

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it has been for a few years. So what's your

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 1>relationship with golf? Do you love it still? Is it

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>still a huge passion to yours? It's it's probably unhealthy

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>in that it is such a huge part of my

0:25:55.119 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>life and that I am still obsessed with it like

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>that there is still like um, because I don't know

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>if that's it's if that's like a healthy balance. It's

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of probably dysfunctional. Yeah, like golf is with And

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>when I say that, I mean like if you took

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>golf away, like I don't know exactly who I would

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>who I would be? Um, That's wow, that was that

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>was heavy man. Um. But it's it is such a

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>big part of it's a part of my my work,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's really the only thing that I do for

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>fun is well, and and sometimes they cross over in

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>in great ways and sometimes an unpleasant ways, and in

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a sense that like it's not always fun, you know,

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not hitting it like that. That's the frustrating

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>thing on this trip, Like three days ago, I couldn't

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>miss um and was just int a grade I had

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>had they answered to golf and I was just gonna,

0:26:56.560 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, drop dirties for the next three months and

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and today I like I couldn't find it. And so

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>like when golf kind of abandoned you like that, And

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it's so it's not like I can turn it off.

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a tomorrow go fishing. You know, I'm going golf

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>in tomorrow, and I'm a little nervous about it because

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I was hitting everything off the planet today. So um,

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's the relationship is is a deep one.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a very deep one. I was thinking

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>about that the other night. You know, this is just

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>some game I started playing when I was a kid

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>because my dad played, you know, and how it's basically become, um,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>my my life, you know, aside from my kids and

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>my wife, it's it's my life. Yeah, it's it's funny.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's I I feel like I battle, And

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I think battle is the right word, because at times

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I do wonder why I still love playing so much,

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 1>because it is what I do for a living, and

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I do feel very surrounded and sometimes a little suffocated

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>by golf because you know, it's it's posting pictures on

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>social media, and it's talking about it, and it's watching

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>on TV, and then it's broadcasting it and podcasting about it.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>And yet you know, on Saturday, I'm going to Bannon

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Dunes to play thirty six a day with my buddies

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and why I want to do that is interesting. And

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I went through something. I don't know if you've gone

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>through this, I'm sure you have. But a few months

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>ago I was I just said, I gotta I've got

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to find another hobby. I mean, I can, I can

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>always play golf, and I love the sport, but I've

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>got to find something else. Is it gonna be guitar?

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna? You know? Am I gonna? I don't know,

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>become a person that that works closely with his garden.

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't know what I wanted to do, but

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I needed to do something else. Yet

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I come back to this and again, I'm I've been

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>playing golf, you know, once a week since our hundred

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.959
<v Speaker 1>old hike, and I and I still go out there

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and grind and want to play my best I've ever played,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's it's an interesting relationship. It's it's set.

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like every day wake up and think like, this

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the day I'm gonna play my my

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>best game, you know, the one I've been waiting for

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>for forty for freaking years. You know that today is

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be the day that it's gonna happen. And

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and that is you know, that's not healthy thinking. It's

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>not saying thinking, but maybe it will be, you know.

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So there is the pursuit of par or pursuit of birdies,

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>or pursuit of holing ones or your your best round.

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>But really for me, it's just like things I'm trying

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to do in my swing. I just want to hit

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>real solid shots now. Um, that is still so alluring.

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and it pulls you right out of the

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>house or debandoned dunes or or wherever it's it's wild.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Did you find another hobby? He's something too. I started.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I started juggling, which my wife thinks is massively dorky. Um,

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>but Brad Faxson told me that it's really good for

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the gray matter in your brain. Juggling is he's one

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of those guys that that he's got a new theory

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>about life and physicality and how you can get in

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>better shape and rube everything basically weekly, if not daily.

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>So he was giving me this whole thing about juggling. Uh,

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the last summer and jew Linkster can juggle, and so

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I gotta learn how to juggle. So

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I was actually youtubing juggling the other day and I

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>had these juggling balls and my puppy was looking at

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>me like those are mine, right, those are mine? Like

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>now these are actually nice Actually for me, this is

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a part of my life now. But that's it. That's

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>all I do. This is it's terrible to say. It's

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>embarrassing to say. I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>have other hobbies. I gotta figure something out. But I

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>still love this damn game. It's so annoying. You were

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about and I asked you this on the golf course,

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think you touched a little on it, you know,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in kind of in kind of your last point about

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the love of golf. But you're a competitive guy. I

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>knew you were going to be a competitive guy before

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I played with you. I knew. I mean, if you've

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>read Paper Tiger, for goodness sakes, you know Tom wants

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to play well, wants to get better, wants to go

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>out there, and if you're playing a twenty dollar again,

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>he wants to win. And I asked you what happens

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>when you go through those stretches when you're doing these

0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:00.479
<v Speaker 1>books where you're playing terrible, because I, for one, when

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing terrible, don't want to play golf. I mean

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to put the clubs away for a week

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or two. You don't have you you can't do that.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not something you're able to do as

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you're writing these journey books. How do you get through that? Yeah,

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the hard part when when your golf is sort

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of abandoned you because it probably wasn't that long ago

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that you know you had your finger right on it,

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um, So it's been kind of cool on

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>this trip and that going back to the social media

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and the posting and stuff, is I had my swing

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>on video like four million times um on my phone.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So what I'll do at night, um, this is I'll

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>screwed up. I am. You know I should be doing

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>anything else. But I'll be going through I know where

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going with this, and it's awesome, and I'll be

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>looking frame by frame what's going on, and I'll compare

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it to like a day when I was striping it

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>to like oh this video from today where I couldn't

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, find the clubs days and I'll come up

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>with just okay, this is my swing thought for tomorrow,

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and I swear to God, I'll get excited again like

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>if I can, just like like today, it was like,

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm gonna post on my left hip and

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>really fire my right side or you know, that was

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>like two days ago, and it just totally worked, and

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.479
<v Speaker 1>I was so excited to go out and just have

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that one swing thought and use it. So I look

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>at stuff and then I try to get um one

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm going to try to accomplish in my

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>swing and then go out and do it. And that

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of gets me fired up. Well, and I'm sure

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure seeing and play in different places get you

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>fired up as well, because if you if you don't,

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>if you don't gloss over the sign you're pulling into

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>every golf course and membership is really it's the most

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>fun part. I can only imagine of doing these books.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked you this when we were playing together, But

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>has there been a golf course And I know you've

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>got you know, months left, but has there been a

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>golf course throughout the journey that has shocked you, surprised

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you one you maybe you didn't hear about or knew

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>about before you got there. Gosh, just been like so

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>many and that Yeah, that's of course definitely the part

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that that pulls me out of bed and gets me

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>down the road is is that I get to play

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>these new and wonderful play They're all new to me,

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. So Um playing uh Yeaman's Hall was um,

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>totally like a trip back in time and I knew

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing about that place. Um that was just a super

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>interesting the history there of it sort of being this

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>stop for the Rockefellers and the Catogs, et cetera on

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>their way to Florida and they'd hang out there for

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a bit and have this beautiful, amazing, untouched you know.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Rarely playing golf course, Um, that was super cool. Uh,

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Lawsonian in Wisconsin was like an eye opener for like

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>a municipal course. I'm like, this is just as good

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>as it gets. Um, gosh, just so many. I played

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>one yesterday yesterday Northeast Harbor in um up here in Maine.

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh five thousand yards and the course record is mine

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>for it was so damn hard and so cool up

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in the granite. Um, the granite of Maine. Uh, just

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 1>stunningly beautiful with incredible history to like seeing mcdonaldy staying

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>out there and stuff. Man, I could bore your listeners

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>for hours with all my fines. Or against Silver Valley

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Ranch where they had the goats. I mean people know

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it for the goats, but the goat caddies. But um,

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>getting there was just such challenge and then being rewarded

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>for being there with this incredible reversible golf course that

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>just blew me away. Um, oh my gosh. That the

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>they're the surprises are they're endless? Yeah, I mean it's

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. I can so are you adding like are

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you adding courses? When you get to a place and

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>somebody says to you, oh my goodness, you've got to

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>go play here? Were you add a course or do

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you have your basically your schedule and the agenda where

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna play it? How much time you can spend

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>their set? Yeah? Sometimes I can and sometimes I can't.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of it is. I mean, the ainerary

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>for all intents and purposes is completely fill out. But

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>if there's something that I really have to do, I

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I can swap out. Of course, Um, trying not

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to hurt anyone's feelings and and and head elsewhere, and

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>that happens once in a while. Um, I have a spot. Yeah,

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like I have a spot next week that I'm trying

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 1>to have one spot and I'm trying to fill So

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>there is just a tiny bit of flexibility. But all

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>that stuff general really happened before I took off. You know,

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>while I was building the itinerary, all the sort of

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you have to play here, you know, they all went

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>on the map. Um. And then I started looking at

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the map and plotting routes, and then I started breaking

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>those down into days and weeks and putting those onto

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the calendar. So um, it was just the logistics of

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>organizing the whole thing. Um. I mean that was a

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>year of work and now six months out here doing it.

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I was I was reading Zach Low has

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>this piece where he basically ranks the league pass NBA

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 1>teams for the year and the most watchable and has

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you know this basically these these this number system he

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>made up and and of course you know it's it's

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>arbitrary to him, but you know that's how he ranks

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the teams. Do you have any sort of a system,

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not points, obviously, but do you have

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>a checklist of things you're looking for in a golf

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>course you're looking for, in a club, you're looking for

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in the playing partners you're with. Are there things as

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you enter the gate of a place you've never been

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>before that that will make it a great experience, a

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>good experience, a decent experience, or even a bad experience. Yeah,

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a good question because I was thinking about that, like,

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of little things when you're going to

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>so many different courses and you know, what's the you know,

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>is all right? Is there a gate? Is the guy

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be cool? Because that can set things the

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>tone right there can be absolutely be really nice or

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of today is gonna be weird? Or I'm already

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit afraid. Um, you know, can I just

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>chill and change my shoes in the parking lot? Or

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 1>is that going to get some member kicked out? Um? So,

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, is there is to dude? Do I have

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to go to the back drop? Is there dude at

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the back drop? Do I tip the dude at the

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>back drop? Like all these little things And not that

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid to to people, but sometimes there's clubs where

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>you're not allowed to tip, and then there's places where

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>if you if you forgot to tip, then you embarrass somebody.

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's like navigating that sort of language that sort

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>of under these unspoken rules at all these different places

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit um is a little challenging. But

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I know it's gonna be well. I know it's gonna

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>be a good day. Like today, I went to Cape

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>a Rundel in Maine and walked right up saw the

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>parking lot. It had just a real quaint, small clubhouse,

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was obviously like, all right, I can change

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>my shoes here in the parking lot, no problem, walk in,

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>say hey here for some golf, you know, like that

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of attitude. I'm like, this is good. I like

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>this place, like no fuss, no bullshit, I don't have

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to kill anybody's but um. And then it was even

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 1>better when the system pro was like hey paper tiger, right,

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, all right, cool, now I don't

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>have to like beg for golf. Um. And it sound

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>like what he didn't happen with them, but to say,

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's really handy when that happens, because it's

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>not and not not because of my ego, just because

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna have to like convince them that um,

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not some dude who's just looking for free golf, um,

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>which is actually what I am, but that I have

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate purpose behind it. Um. But yeah, I mean

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>it all starts, I think, really with the with the

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>welcome that you get, which is it seems sort of obvious,

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but you get all sorts of different welcomes, and some

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, you're lucky to be here, and

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>some feel like, you know, we're lucky to have it here.

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And obviously, um, the ladder is it's quite nice and

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 1>and really for me like the less fussy and less

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>fancy the better. I sometimes have a hard time like

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 1>summoning the energy to um get all excited about um,

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, just worrying about the locker room and this

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>done and the other. I just I just want to golf.

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And any place that's just like this is built just

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>so you can golf. I'm always excited about that. Yeah,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm imagining that there will be parts of the book,

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>if not a part of the book, that will speak

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>on this. Considering it was Ireland, Scotland and now the

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>United States of America, which is a place with some

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of the most incredible golf courses in the world, but

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, as you mentioned, have gates and

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.879
<v Speaker 1>they're closed and they're not that excited to have you there.

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>And so that'll be an interesting kind of theme of

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>the book if it's in there, about the difference in

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that because you had a chance to play. You know,

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>when you think about Scotland, you can play any golf

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>course in Scotland outside of one that everybody's heard of,

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and you can go walk up and if you pay

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 1>your and you have a tea time you pay, they'll

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>let you out there and you're good to go and here,

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>even with your connections, I'm sure sometimes, as you said,

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 1>you show up at these places and you feel like

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 1>they are just ready for you to leave, and that

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't always the best feeling, especially when you're excited about him.

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are the top twenty, top thirty, top

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>on whatever you want to call them, golf courses in

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the country, and uh, and sometimes you know, you you

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you definitely aren't gonna be changing your shoes in the

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>park a lot, I know, And I have some of

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>those coming up this week and and that's great and

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited for it. Um, but that's absolutely a

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>big theme that I hope that I don't hit it

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>too hard in the book. Actually, you know, I'll definitely

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>make the point so that you know that the golf

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.439
<v Speaker 1>has this accessibility over there versus our sort of close

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>country club model. Um which one is better? I mean,

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and there are good things about both, um and And

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if their system would totally work over here.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>And I understand why the private club exists in America. Um,

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, in this country of sort of like mobile

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>class structure, etcetera. Like that's the year golf club was

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a way to sort of distinguish yourself. Um And I

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.959
<v Speaker 1>get it. And and that's all. That's all fine and well,

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>um but yeah, there there are those that that that

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>sense of you know, when I leave the property, I

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>get to exhale, like I get that at some places.

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Um And and that's not the best um and And

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a shame because it's just the place

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to play a game, right, Um. We lump all this

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 1>other stuff onto it and attach all this other sort

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of meaning to it as well. Um And And on

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one side of it, that adds to the excitement and

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the lure. Uh And on the other side of it,

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like kind of like a hot air,

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, you always there. There are flip

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>sides to it, though, you know. I played Towel Club

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the day before our hundredhole High count in San Francisco,

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and I knew nothing about what to expect when I arrived,

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and the membership from the start were unbelievable. I mean

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>they were they These guys were getting up and introducing themselves,

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and somebody bought me a beer at the bar as

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the football was on because it was a Sunday, and

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>they got me a locker and I could throw my

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>travel bag in there because I hadn't gone to the

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>hotel yet. And when we got done, it was like

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>hanging around after it was. It was just one of

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>those environments that you felt like you were a part

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of it. You felt like you almost that they were

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>excited to have you there, that you belonged, and that

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to see you go. And that again,

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 1>for a very nice private club, is a great feeling

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to have. So there are some out there that are

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the complete opposite, and those are the ones when you

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>leave you're like, I cannot wait to get back to

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>this place and play here. Again because the experience is

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>better than the golf course, and the golf course is

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>damn good as well. I'm gonna ask you a couple

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of questions and i'll let you go. First question, somebody's

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>about to play golf with Tom coyn during either this

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>ex variance or otherwise. What's the one question they should

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 1>not ask you while if you're playing eighteen holes? It's

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 1>a long list. Um. Uh, they ask me why I'm

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>not walking this one? That that that I get? What

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>do they say? But so you're not walking this one?

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, because I walked to Ireland and I'm in America,

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not for not walking. That annoys me on

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:35.240
<v Speaker 1>numerous levels. Um, because it's like, well, you're first belittling

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>what I'm actually trying to accomplish, and to um, you

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 1>just wasted your breath because that was a stupid question.

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, alright, that's that's a good one. Um. Second

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>question and then you get to go, you're gonna be

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix. Are we playing golf while you're in Phoenix, Arizona?

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>For the book? Hell? Yeah we are. Where are you

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>paying while you're here? Jeez? Looking life, I can't find

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>my phone? Um, where's what's in Phoenix. I think you're

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>playing I think you said you're playing Papago, which is

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a great municipal golf course in the center of town.

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's a place that I would say might

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>have one of the best money games early in the

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>week every week, and you'll see many tour guys go

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>out there and even PGA tour players at times. Corn

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Ferry guys will play in it. And it's a it's

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a desert golf course where you can find your

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>golf ball. So two thumbs up for Papaga. Yeah, I

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>love Papago, and let's get some of that money game

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>actually going. I think I think it's Monday. I get

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 1>my shots. Ah, you don't. You don't get shots in

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the in the Pavago money game.

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.720
<v Speaker 1>You gotta play them straight up. But their skins involved.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>There's closest to involved. And uh, there's about seventeen ways

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you can win and or lose money in those games

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.399
<v Speaker 1>because they're really well designed. But even if you're playing terrible,

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>they have a final five game where it's the final

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>five whole score and that's it. And if you play

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<v Speaker 1>the final five a couple under you, you tend to

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<v Speaker 1>win your money back. Dig it all right, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do that Papago and then hopefully I can take

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<v Speaker 1>you out to Phoenix Country Club if it works, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the time, and thanks again for the invite

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<v Speaker 1>for the Hunter Old Hike was like so much. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being a part of it. I could not have

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<v Speaker 1>made it through without your following me through your optimism

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<v Speaker 1>and your and you're good golf too. It's great to

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<v Speaker 1>see a play. It was awesome. You can follow Tom

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<v Speaker 1>at coin writer on Instagram and Twitter. Follow along by

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<v Speaker 1>all his books. They're worth the read. I've read them

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<v Speaker 1>all well before I knew who he was, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>as good a guy after you meet him as I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he'd be when I was reading his books. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like I'm a Well that'll do it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys enjoyed this episode with Tom Coin.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you follow all of his travels coin Writer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's great. His Instagram is awesome, He's got a digital

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<v Speaker 1>of course in book for him coming out you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a year, year and a half or so, when

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<v Speaker 1>this book hits, this is gonna be I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll be probably the best one. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think American golf and everything that goes into it, and

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<v Speaker 1>how expand so of it is, and the places that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I have never heard of that he's gonna

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