Speaker 1: Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your
Speaker 1: post Shane Bacon and this week's guest, Tom Coin, joins
Speaker 1: a program again. Tom is traveling America writing another book
Speaker 1: about travel, this time state side. He did one in Ireland,
Speaker 1: he did one in Scotland. Now he's doing one of
Speaker 1: the United States. And we actually played a hundred holes
Speaker 1: of golf about a week and a half ago for
Speaker 1: a charity youth on course, so we talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about that, But then of course we dove into
Speaker 1: what's happening with the book and the travels and the
Speaker 1: golf courses and if he wants to throw his golf
Speaker 1: clubs in a lake or an ocean yet, how tough
Speaker 1: that can be. As golfers, we all know that there's
Speaker 1: times where you love it and you can't wait to
Speaker 1: get back out there, and there's times when you don't
Speaker 1: even want to look at your golf clubs. So it
Speaker 1: was a great conversation. I love the guy. He is
Speaker 1: one of the more interesting people you will ever find
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Speaker 1: In Phoenix there's no golf because every golf course is
Speaker 1: under the knife and being overseated, which is a huge bumber.
Speaker 1: But I am actually headed to Oregon this weekend to
Speaker 1: go to Bandon Dunes. I'm going to play a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of golf with a couple of buddies of mine.
Speaker 1: Very excited about that. I'm also excited about this. I
Speaker 1: mentioned Tom Coin is on the program. Tom is a
Speaker 1: senior writer for The Golfers Journal. I've loved the Golfers
Speaker 1: Journal since it first came out. I have a new
Speaker 1: story coming out and the next issue that hits in November.
Speaker 1: And something cool that they're doing for us is if
Speaker 1: you haven't heard, I have this hole in one fund basically,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've seen this if you follow me
Speaker 1: on social media at all. I've never made an ace
Speaker 1: in my life. I'm thirty five years old. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be thirty six in November. And I started this a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, just a jar, and I throw
Speaker 1: a dollar in the jar every time I play around
Speaker 1: a off without an ace. The jar now is over
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. Now, I haven't played five hundred rounds
Speaker 1: of golf in a couple of years. I have had
Speaker 1: people donate, I've had friends send money in. I actually
Speaker 1: just mentioned this on Twitter last week and UH followers
Speaker 1: Mike Rice and Nicole Montenez both donated on Venmo some
Speaker 1: money to throw in there. Once I make an ace,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just take the jar to the Phoenix Children's
Speaker 1: Hospital and give it to them. And I've also had
Speaker 1: some friends of mine. I've got professional golfer buddies that
Speaker 1: have promised to pledge some money once it happens, if
Speaker 1: it ever happens. They said they'll pledge more money if
Speaker 1: they're actually playing with me in the round that it happens.
Speaker 1: So a little extra pressure. But what the Golfers journal
Speaker 1: is gonna do and what why this matters is I'm
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Speaker 1: you click through that link and you sign up and
Speaker 1: subscribe to the Golfer's Journal, they're going to donate a
Speaker 1: portion of the money you send them to my Hole
Speaker 1: in one jar for charity. So it really kind of
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Speaker 1: Any golf fan that just likes to read interesting stories
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Speaker 1: Trust me, I have them all. I read them every
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Speaker 1: Every story is interesting and different, and that's really what
Speaker 1: they've been doing and changing really golf journalism in that regard.
Speaker 1: And you'll donate some money to charity, so it's a
Speaker 1: win win. It helps us out. Our idea is to
Speaker 1: make the jar so overflowed that we have to get
Speaker 1: another jar, which is kind of depressing because that means
Speaker 1: I haven't made an ace. But hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, I can be seventy years old and
Speaker 1: sit here with a few thousand dollars and know that
Speaker 1: I can donate it somewhere or once I croaked, because
Speaker 1: my iron plate is that that bad, I'm gonna make one.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm gonna make one. I hope you guys
Speaker 1: are having a great week. As I said, I know
Speaker 1: winner is approaching for people in the Northeast and uh
Speaker 1: and parts of the country, and golf is basically dwindling down.
Speaker 1: But there's you know, there's golf on TV. And we're
Speaker 1: gonna roll out some more podcast throughout the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: I'll have a little bit of a recap about Banded
Speaker 1: Dunes and my opportunity to get to play nineholes on
Speaker 1: the Sheeper Inches I'm very excited about. But for now,
Speaker 1: let's get to our guest and we welcome back into
Speaker 1: the clubhouse one of my favorite people in all of golf,
Speaker 1: Tom Cone. You can follow him on Instagram and Twitter
Speaker 1: at coin Writer, c O y in E Writer. He's
Speaker 1: a senior writer at The Golfers Journal. He also hosts
Speaker 1: The Golfer's Journal podcast, which I highly recommend, and he
Speaker 1: is working on his fifth book. And I would say,
Speaker 1: Tom Coin, this might be the biggest, I would say,
Speaker 1: planned event you've done thus far. A course called America.
Speaker 1: Last I checked. America, a slightly larger place than both
Speaker 1: Ireland and Scotland. It's the biggest undertaking of my life, Shane.
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah. I uh, I knew it was bigger
Speaker 1: obviously than Ireland and Scotland, but it's proven to be
Speaker 1: a beast. I'm I'm here in Massachusetts talking to you
Speaker 1: right now. You're you're not. I'm talking to you from Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: And it's been wild, man. So I'm doing all fifty states.
Speaker 1: I'm doing every US Open venue. I've been on the
Speaker 1: road since April. You'll notice it's October and uh, and
Speaker 1: I'll be on the road through December. So by that
Speaker 1: point I will have done you know, gold, I will
Speaker 1: have golf in every state and it will probably about
Speaker 1: be about two courses. Um. So, Yeah, there's just been
Speaker 1: a lot to see, uh, a lot to take in
Speaker 1: and but it's been awesome, man, I mean it's just
Speaker 1: been it's been really cool to get to know my
Speaker 1: own country, which was the whole point to do in
Speaker 1: this project, is that I knew sort of Ireland and Scotland.
Speaker 1: I had traveled and researched there more than I had
Speaker 1: in America. You know, I certainly knew Philadelphia. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's just been it's been awesome to get out and
Speaker 1: be a tourist in in my own country. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean when you when you first did the travel version
Speaker 1: of your books and you started in Ireland, I mean,
Speaker 1: I can only imagine you ever envisioned that it would
Speaker 1: become this. I mean, this is really it's kind of
Speaker 1: your stick. I mean, you traveled Ireland, you walked a
Speaker 1: lot of the country, You played all these golf courses
Speaker 1: nobody had ever heard of. And what I love about
Speaker 1: your journey is I feel like you kind of jumped
Speaker 1: into this basically focus on travel and focus on fighting
Speaker 1: hidden gems right about the time that became popular. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we used to have a top of a
Speaker 1: hundred board on our wall, and we look at the
Speaker 1: top one hundreds by every golf publication out there, and
Speaker 1: those were the courses we wanted to play. And what
Speaker 1: I find so fascinated about what you've been able to
Speaker 1: do and uncover with your with your words in your
Speaker 1: novels is you're showcasing a lot of places that once
Speaker 1: you read about it, you want to go play there.
Speaker 1: And it has to be cool to finally get to
Speaker 1: do that exact thing in America, because as you said,
Speaker 1: it's it's your backyard and you know in reality, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean that's definitely the goal and it's it's been
Speaker 1: the best part of of all the books is to
Speaker 1: sort of bring some light to lesser known places that
Speaker 1: are deserving of visitors. You know. Um, yeah, I had
Speaker 1: no idea when you know, when I pitched the Ireland Book.
Speaker 1: It was like, I think I want to write a
Speaker 1: book about golf in Ireland and this is like, and
Speaker 1: I'll walk it. That'll be crazy, right, And then a
Speaker 1: publisher says yes, and you're like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: have to do it. And and so you know, that
Speaker 1: becomes the Scotland Book and yeah, and that and that
Speaker 1: sort of takes me to hear where I am, but
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to. I am visiting very
Speaker 1: well known places, um, and I'm telling some of their
Speaker 1: unknown history, which is cool. But I definitely it's always
Speaker 1: about like the find the the you know, the hidden gems,
Speaker 1: the places that people don't go. Um. You know, that
Speaker 1: was something that you know, the Ireland Book comes out
Speaker 1: and and people and more people started going to carn
Speaker 1: Or two Crouch Island. Um. With the Scotland books, some
Speaker 1: people are going to Macrone that might not have known
Speaker 1: about it, or to Shiskin, or to Murker. Um. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the only reason that the people go there
Speaker 1: is because of the books. But if it gets even
Speaker 1: a few dozen people to go there in some of
Speaker 1: these little places, that has a real impact. And um,
Speaker 1: and that's been definitely the most gratifying experience of those
Speaker 1: two books. So if I can sense more folks to
Speaker 1: some of these places that I've found, um, And I'm
Speaker 1: not just finding cool places. I'm finding like cool golf
Speaker 1: trips in America, you know, like that where you could say, hey,
Speaker 1: like who whatever, they can go in to Mississippi for
Speaker 1: a buddy trip. But here's an idea for like a
Speaker 1: really cool, you know, four day awesome golf trip in
Speaker 1: Colorado and Mississippi or in Alabama or something like that.
Speaker 1: So that's been you know, yeah, So I'm always on
Speaker 1: the lookout for for fine stuff that's off the radar.
Speaker 1: And how is how has it been juggling the social
Speaker 1: media aspect of this, because really Scotland, you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of led into Instagram and Twitter and now it's
Speaker 1: really something I feel like you walk alongside I mean,
Speaker 1: you showcase where you're at and where you're playing, who
Speaker 1: you're playing with. I know you have given ways with
Speaker 1: some of your sponsors, like titlists where you can you know,
Speaker 1: you can invite people to come out and play with
Speaker 1: you and they get a chance to to kind of
Speaker 1: be involved in the book. How has social media helped
Speaker 1: both helped and in a way maybe even heard a
Speaker 1: little bit giving away some of the stuff that you
Speaker 1: know is going to be in the book. Yeah, it's true. So,
Speaker 1: I mean social media, right with the other books, is
Speaker 1: just like every couple of days, Hey look at this
Speaker 1: cool picture. Um, It's it's a huge part of this
Speaker 1: adventure though. Right from the start, you know, when I
Speaker 1: announced the project, it was via Instagram and Facebook and
Speaker 1: Twitter that I got most of the course recommendations and
Speaker 1: and also got most of the invitations, um from folks
Speaker 1: to come play at them. You know. So it's been
Speaker 1: hugely helpful in finding spots and in getting on them
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, obviously the challenge in America versus
Speaker 1: Ireland in Scotland is that most of our golf courses
Speaker 1: are private, so so it's been very helpful that way. Um.
Speaker 1: What's been cool about it is that this sort of
Speaker 1: community is growing up around the trip um and that's
Speaker 1: something that you know I didn't have with the Scotland
Speaker 1: book and uh. And so right, like you said, when
Speaker 1: I have an open tea time or have a spot somewhere,
Speaker 1: I throw it out on on Instagram or Twitter and
Speaker 1: and three dudes show up, um or sometimes more. And
Speaker 1: and that's been pretty amazing. Uh. And that's been great
Speaker 1: for the story. And then I'm getting to meet a
Speaker 1: lot of different people and get their stories, and um,
Speaker 1: it's just added a lot to you know, what will
Speaker 1: be the larger narrative. Uh. You know in the Scotland
Speaker 1: and Ireland books, like I invited a lot of friends,
Speaker 1: and I still have friends coming on this trip. But
Speaker 1: now it's like I'm inviting strangers. So like every day
Speaker 1: I invite I'm playing with three or six usually you know,
Speaker 1: people I've never met before. Um, the Instagram world and
Speaker 1: in this listen, you and I are kind of in this.
Speaker 1: I mean there are people that that I can only
Speaker 1: imagine that that are way bigger than us, that get
Speaker 1: these invites all the time. But a part and and
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure people know this, but a part
Speaker 1: of quote unquote golf media is you do get invitations
Speaker 1: a lot from people that are members of these really
Speaker 1: knives golf courses, and it isn't in a way, it's
Speaker 1: it's an interesting dynamic because you do I want to
Speaker 1: go play here with these people I don't know, and
Speaker 1: then you go and you have an unbelievable experience, or
Speaker 1: maybe the person is a little weird, or they might
Speaker 1: ask a whole bunch of questions that you get asked
Speaker 1: all the time. So it is I can only imagine
Speaker 1: it's a it's a balanced you have, but it's also
Speaker 1: something that's helping you with the book. I mean, you
Speaker 1: literally can can reach out and go I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: and let's just say, let's just say Birmingham. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in the Birmingham area this date, and you get
Speaker 1: four invites to certain golf clubs that you're looking to play.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, yeah, it is funny how it's kind
Speaker 1: of mirrored now compared to maybe some of the other books.
Speaker 1: Is you have to go, Okay, today, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: with these random people that have been following me on
Speaker 1: Instagram for two years. Totally. Yeah, it's and it's really
Speaker 1: and it's really good. I it's you know, yeah, the
Speaker 1: folks who have been kind enough and generous enough to
Speaker 1: invite me places. But you, like you said, I mean
Speaker 1: more than not. It's it's a matter of having to
Speaker 1: say no because there's only so many days and so
Speaker 1: many courses. It's a very good problem to have to
Speaker 1: have more invitations than than you can actually fit into
Speaker 1: your into your calendar. And you know my attitude, you know,
Speaker 1: it's with the Scotland book and where I did play
Speaker 1: with just a handful of strangers who came over to
Speaker 1: play with uh to to join me um and and
Speaker 1: had really good results with that UM in terms of
Speaker 1: friendships and stories. I thought, you know, with this book,
Speaker 1: what the hell, I'm just gonna be totally open to
Speaker 1: it and be happy to play with random people. And
Speaker 1: and and from a storytelling point of view that if
Speaker 1: I get weirdos, you know, that's actually really useful. UM.
Speaker 1: I haven't had enough weirdos, to be honest, I was
Speaker 1: still looking for some. UM. This story needs some more villains.
Speaker 1: So if you're a real jerk, um reach out at
Speaker 1: a writer on Instagram, send him all of the mesas yeah,
Speaker 1: bring all your weird things, your iron head covers, your trinkets,
Speaker 1: playing all of it, and he'll he'll definitely make the book. Well,
Speaker 1: you did get a chance to play with a weirdo
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. You played with me, and you played
Speaker 1: with me at Olympic Club. You invited me to be
Speaker 1: a part of this thing with Youth on Course, which
Speaker 1: they do an unbelievable job. And I'll let you kind
Speaker 1: of dive a little deeper into that. But about a
Speaker 1: week and a half ago, we played a hundred holes
Speaker 1: of golf in one day, something I've never done, something
Speaker 1: you've never done, considering how much golf you play. To
Speaker 1: be a part of the most golf you've played in
Speaker 1: one day, I have really felt like a big honor.
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, by far the most golf I've ever played.
Speaker 1: And I was so you were like, I can't, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you said yes. And you were very quickly
Speaker 1: said yes. Once you got the green light, um from
Speaker 1: your better half. You you were in and uh, which
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it because I needed a friend to
Speaker 1: do this with me and um, and you brought some
Speaker 1: great attention to the to the cause as well. I
Speaker 1: mean Youth Phone Course. I met them at the PGA
Speaker 1: show last year and they basically they're based out of
Speaker 1: Monterey and they make it possible for junior golfers to
Speaker 1: play um proper golf courses for five dollars, and they
Speaker 1: underwrite their tea times. So it sort of picks up,
Speaker 1: you know, the first tea, you know, that introduction to golf,
Speaker 1: and then you get to this point that you know,
Speaker 1: they saw this sort of void there of like okay,
Speaker 1: well where can they play now? They now they want
Speaker 1: to golf and now what and and that's a big
Speaker 1: barrier for for so many junior golfers. So I think
Speaker 1: what they're doing is is really great. It's really smart.
Speaker 1: They have mentoring even you know, beyond the golf for
Speaker 1: for um kids that are involved with youthhone course and
Speaker 1: um so they're a big fundraisers LL hikes. So even
Speaker 1: back then I was like, yeah, I'd be into that. Um.
Speaker 1: This was by the way, the p g A show,
Speaker 1: if people they don't know, is the very first month
Speaker 1: of the year. So Tom was you know, he's Brian
Speaker 1: eyed and she tailed for the year season. Oh that
Speaker 1: would be great, not knowing that you know, five six,
Speaker 1: seven months later he's gonna have to go play a
Speaker 1: hundred holes after he's played thirty six a day for goodness,
Speaker 1: four or five months straight. Yeah, I mean it's January.
Speaker 1: I haven't played golf in there like you can plays golf.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, let's go do it right now. And
Speaker 1: but yeah, and then after the trip comes around, you know,
Speaker 1: and I've been on the road, you know for months.
Speaker 1: I've been in I was in Bend, Oregon, the day before,
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, the day before that land in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: We get to the golf course that you know, six fifteen,
Speaker 1: six thirty in the morning and uh, you know, leaving
Speaker 1: in the dark, team off at seven o'clock. Um, it
Speaker 1: was just another one of those great moments that golf
Speaker 1: has given me, a lot of them that, you know,
Speaker 1: I look around and I go, how the hell did
Speaker 1: I get a here doing this? You know? And uh
Speaker 1: and and there we were playing the Olympic Club. UM
Speaker 1: a lot around and around and around, kept playing. You
Speaker 1: can check out everything they do. It's Youth on Course
Speaker 1: dot Org. They do an unbelievable job. We're big fans
Speaker 1: of them. And uh. And if you want to go
Speaker 1: donate or do whatever you can to help out or
Speaker 1: be a part of the Hunter whole hike going forward,
Speaker 1: you can do it. What were you feeling like? What
Speaker 1: what was your whole number where you were thinking, my goodness,
Speaker 1: how many more do we have left? Um? Like four?
Speaker 1: I think because I saw and everything, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can go chill over there and have snacks and
Speaker 1: in water. Um no, I think there. You know, there's
Speaker 1: that initial excitement. You know, we go around the first nine,
Speaker 1: it's you're feeling good. Obviously you're still you're not tired yet. Um.
Speaker 1: You know what it was probably after we stopped for lunch,
Speaker 1: which you insisted on chowing down, and I'm glad you did,
Speaker 1: um because the Hokies well subs whatever, they were delicious.
Speaker 1: But after that, it was like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't want to golf. Yeah, fifty we stopped for
Speaker 1: lunch at fifty two holes. We we we got to
Speaker 1: we got the fifty and for some reason, so that
Speaker 1: let's play two more. So you know, just because listen,
Speaker 1: we're against us, we're against the establishment. We were playing
Speaker 1: fifty two, not fifty and uh and I my golf
Speaker 1: I brought golf shoes that are really comfortable golf shoes,
Speaker 1: but I didn't realize that they weren't waterproof. They're more
Speaker 1: like the casual, non spike golf shoes, and I brought them. Well,
Speaker 1: it was really dewey in the morning, so part of
Speaker 1: my lunch break was to take my shoes and socks
Speaker 1: off and let him dry out, which was the best
Speaker 1: thing I did the entire day. But yeah, the the
Speaker 1: going back after lunch knowing you had basically the entire
Speaker 1: what you've just done already to do it again. I
Speaker 1: felt like that was that was a wall. We both hit.
Speaker 1: That was a wall. And and seeing the other golfers
Speaker 1: finish like way ahead of us. Um. So for the
Speaker 1: folks who are listening, they were like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe twelve people at this site doing um the hundred
Speaker 1: all like, and we were just spread around the property
Speaker 1: trying not to bum like get each other's way. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's like like during a marathon when there's
Speaker 1: also a half marathon going on, and like the half
Speaker 1: marathon is like split off to the finished line, and
Speaker 1: like the marathon people have to keep going. Like that's
Speaker 1: what it felt like, you know, watching these guys like
Speaker 1: kind of wrapped it up, and I'm like, jeez, because
Speaker 1: and they were like and they these were veterans as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they were playing with one club.
Speaker 1: The most impressive thing was I mean they were so savvy.
Speaker 1: They had those bald suction cup things like on their
Speaker 1: seven iron so they didn't have to bend over to
Speaker 1: pick up the ball. I mean, talk about hundred whole
Speaker 1: pros that was. That was a classy move. So they
Speaker 1: were flying and you know they finish it whatever, like
Speaker 1: we're having lunch. They're wrapping it up and we've got
Speaker 1: fifty holes to go. Um. It kind of breaks your
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Speaker 1: My number was. We were like at six eight, and
Speaker 1: I was like doing the math in my head because
Speaker 1: I'm not very smart, so it always had to do
Speaker 1: the math to figure out how many more we had
Speaker 1: left and away on sixty threes next and then sixty four.
Speaker 1: But you know we were we were we were shooting
Speaker 1: some stuff for you, and so we had some other
Speaker 1: people around us, and we were all trying to keep
Speaker 1: up with the numbers. By the way, I am, I
Speaker 1: am so bad at at counting when I need to count,
Speaker 1: So like if I'm jump roping, I I never know
Speaker 1: what number I'm on. If I'm trying to get to
Speaker 1: a hundred, I'll forget what number I'm on at about twenty.
Speaker 1: So playing a hundred holes, I knew I was going
Speaker 1: to struggle with that and we might have played a
Speaker 1: hundred and five holes, we might have played nine holes.
Speaker 1: There's a chance that we could be at least five
Speaker 1: holes off. But I remember we had thirty thirty two
Speaker 1: holes left, and I was thinking to myself, this is
Speaker 1: basically two rounds of golf we have left, and we've
Speaker 1: already played so much already. And uh, and that was
Speaker 1: about the wall I hit. But I made you, I
Speaker 1: made you start yelling out how many holes we had
Speaker 1: left when we got to play about fifteen and uh
Speaker 1: and I think is excited to yell it out as
Speaker 1: knowing that that was one less we had to play.
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, it was a final funny And I
Speaker 1: was just screaming them out, you know, and you could
Speaker 1: hear it all over the golf course. I think I
Speaker 1: put a little pep in my step for sure. It
Speaker 1: made it feel like we were approaching the finish line,
Speaker 1: even though it was still you know, tylds away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: will you do a hundred holes again in your lifetime?
Speaker 1: You think? I don't know. I don't know, Shane. It's
Speaker 1: gonna have to sit for a while. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: happen this year. You know. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: like the recall of the uh, the experiences. It's too
Speaker 1: it's too immediate. But and like with the marathon, you know,
Speaker 1: you do a marathon, you know, I'll never do that again,
Speaker 1: and then like six months later, sitting around and you
Speaker 1: sign up for another one. Um, I feel like that
Speaker 1: could happen. I've learned and having learned things from the
Speaker 1: experience as well. I mean the people the one club thing,
Speaker 1: which we did for a while for I think we
Speaker 1: did that for likes or something we're going to do.
Speaker 1: We're going to do it, and we were really big
Speaker 1: fans of it. It was it was our face every
Speaker 1: part of the day. That was smart. And we also
Speaker 1: made up holes too. I think that was smart to
Speaker 1: keep it interesting, like going from to tease to different
Speaker 1: greens and stuff, because you know, just going around in
Speaker 1: loop after you know, loop after loop, it gets really monotonous.
Speaker 1: So I have learned some things from doing it the
Speaker 1: first time, I'd be more efficient the second time around. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to close the door on it forever.
Speaker 1: So would you do it? I'm I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: said no. I was like, you know, that was great.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we did it. It's a great cause. We
Speaker 1: love youth. On course, you know, we hope we raised
Speaker 1: him some some good money. And then I was flying
Speaker 1: home the next morning. I was like, I'll never do
Speaker 1: that again ever the rest of my life. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: now we're talking not even two weeks ago, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I could probably do it again. I could be convinced.
Speaker 1: How many of you done doing these books? I mean,
Speaker 1: you've done this is your third one. What's the most
Speaker 1: you've played in one day? So I've never even done
Speaker 1: the seventy two which some people do, like at the
Speaker 1: summer Solstice stuff. Um so fifty four holes, but that's
Speaker 1: at three different courses. Um in like Scottish Wind And
Speaker 1: I did fifty four holes in the Scotland book. I
Speaker 1: did it like five days in a row. That was borderline.
Speaker 1: That was that was the most depressing part of the
Speaker 1: book when you were literally yeah, I was depressed doing it.
Speaker 1: I was depressed. I got depressed again writing it. It
Speaker 1: was horrible. But um I got to slay all those
Speaker 1: courses and cross them off my list, and and it's
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, the thing is with these stories,
Speaker 1: like if you're not doing something unreasonable or pushing yourself
Speaker 1: or like and and pushing yourself into weird, dark, uncomfortable
Speaker 1: wild places or corners. Then you know that's where the
Speaker 1: stories are. You know, nobody wants to hear about, Oh,
Speaker 1: I played another great golf course today and then you
Speaker 1: know I hung out on the patio. Lunch was delicious.
Speaker 1: You know that's no one wants to hear about your
Speaker 1: wonderful vacation. There's gotta be struggle, um, and I've definitely
Speaker 1: built myself from struggle on the America trip um and
Speaker 1: laying hundred holes was was a good addition to that.
Speaker 1: So describe to me your relationship with golf, Like right
Speaker 1: now as you're in the midst of this and it's
Speaker 1: your job. I mean, you're you're writing a book for
Speaker 1: your family and for your living and for your livelihood,
Speaker 1: and you're doing a podcast based around golf, and you've
Speaker 1: got some video series that you're that you're using and
Speaker 1: putting out on social media. Golf is a big part
Speaker 1: of what you are currently doing in your life, and
Speaker 1: it has been for a few years. So what's your
Speaker 1: relationship with golf? Do you love it still? Is it
Speaker 1: still a huge passion to yours? It's it's probably unhealthy
Speaker 1: in that it is such a huge part of my
Speaker 1: life and that I am still obsessed with it like
Speaker 1: that there is still like um, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's it's if that's like a healthy balance. It's
Speaker 1: sort of probably dysfunctional. Yeah, like golf is with And
Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean like if you took
Speaker 1: golf away, like I don't know exactly who I would
Speaker 1: who I would be? Um, That's wow, that was that
Speaker 1: was heavy man. Um. But it's it is such a
Speaker 1: big part of it's a part of my my work,
Speaker 1: and it's really the only thing that I do for
Speaker 1: fun is well, and and sometimes they cross over in
Speaker 1: in great ways and sometimes an unpleasant ways, and in
Speaker 1: a sense that like it's not always fun, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm not hitting it like that. That's the frustrating
Speaker 1: thing on this trip, Like three days ago, I couldn't
Speaker 1: miss um and was just int a grade I had
Speaker 1: had they answered to golf and I was just gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, drop dirties for the next three months and
Speaker 1: and today I like I couldn't find it. And so
Speaker 1: like when golf kind of abandoned you like that, And
Speaker 1: it's so it's not like I can turn it off.
Speaker 1: It's a tomorrow go fishing. You know, I'm going golf
Speaker 1: in tomorrow, and I'm a little nervous about it because
Speaker 1: I was hitting everything off the planet today. So um,
Speaker 1: it's a it's the relationship is is a deep one.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a very deep one. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about that the other night. You know, this is just
Speaker 1: some game I started playing when I was a kid
Speaker 1: because my dad played, you know, and how it's basically become, um,
Speaker 1: my my life, you know, aside from my kids and
Speaker 1: my wife, it's it's my life. Yeah, it's it's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I I feel like I battle, And
Speaker 1: I think battle is the right word, because at times
Speaker 1: I do wonder why I still love playing so much,
Speaker 1: because it is what I do for a living, and
Speaker 1: I do feel very surrounded and sometimes a little suffocated
Speaker 1: by golf because you know, it's it's posting pictures on
Speaker 1: social media, and it's talking about it, and it's watching
Speaker 1: on TV, and then it's broadcasting it and podcasting about it.
Speaker 1: And yet you know, on Saturday, I'm going to Bannon
Speaker 1: Dunes to play thirty six a day with my buddies
Speaker 1: and why I want to do that is interesting. And
Speaker 1: I went through something. I don't know if you've gone
Speaker 1: through this, I'm sure you have. But a few months
Speaker 1: ago I was I just said, I gotta I've got
Speaker 1: to find another hobby. I mean, I can, I can
Speaker 1: always play golf, and I love the sport, but I've
Speaker 1: got to find something else. Is it gonna be guitar?
Speaker 1: Am I gonna? You know? Am I gonna? I don't know,
Speaker 1: become a person that that works closely with his garden.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what I wanted to do, but
Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to do something else. Yet
Speaker 1: I come back to this and again, I'm I've been
Speaker 1: playing golf, you know, once a week since our hundred
Speaker 1: old hike, and I and I still go out there
Speaker 1: and grind and want to play my best I've ever played,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's an interesting relationship. It's it's set.
Speaker 1: It's like every day wake up and think like, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the day I'm gonna play my my
Speaker 1: best game, you know, the one I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: for forty for freaking years. You know that today is
Speaker 1: going to be the day that it's gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: and that is you know, that's not healthy thinking. It's
Speaker 1: not saying thinking, but maybe it will be, you know.
Speaker 1: So there is the pursuit of par or pursuit of birdies,
Speaker 1: or pursuit of holing ones or your your best round.
Speaker 1: But really for me, it's just like things I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do in my swing. I just want to hit
Speaker 1: real solid shots now. Um, that is still so alluring.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and it pulls you right out of the
Speaker 1: house or debandoned dunes or or wherever it's it's wild.
Speaker 1: Did you find another hobby? He's something too. I started.
Speaker 1: I started juggling, which my wife thinks is massively dorky. Um,
Speaker 1: but Brad Faxson told me that it's really good for
Speaker 1: the gray matter in your brain. Juggling is he's one
Speaker 1: of those guys that that he's got a new theory
Speaker 1: about life and physicality and how you can get in
Speaker 1: better shape and rube everything basically weekly, if not daily.
Speaker 1: So he was giving me this whole thing about juggling. Uh,
Speaker 1: the last summer and jew Linkster can juggle, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta learn how to juggle. So
Speaker 1: I was actually youtubing juggling the other day and I
Speaker 1: had these juggling balls and my puppy was looking at
Speaker 1: me like those are mine, right, those are mine? Like
Speaker 1: now these are actually nice Actually for me, this is
Speaker 1: a part of my life now. But that's it. That's
Speaker 1: all I do. This is it's terrible to say. It's
Speaker 1: embarrassing to say. I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't
Speaker 1: have other hobbies. I gotta figure something out. But I
Speaker 1: still love this damn game. It's so annoying. You were
Speaker 1: talking about and I asked you this on the golf course,
Speaker 1: and I think you touched a little on it, you know,
Speaker 1: in kind of in kind of your last point about
Speaker 1: the love of golf. But you're a competitive guy. I
Speaker 1: knew you were going to be a competitive guy before
Speaker 1: I played with you. I knew. I mean, if you've
Speaker 1: read Paper Tiger, for goodness sakes, you know Tom wants
Speaker 1: to play well, wants to get better, wants to go
Speaker 1: out there, and if you're playing a twenty dollar again,
Speaker 1: he wants to win. And I asked you what happens
Speaker 1: when you go through those stretches when you're doing these
Speaker 1: books where you're playing terrible, because I, for one, when
Speaker 1: I'm playing terrible, don't want to play golf. I mean
Speaker 1: I want to put the clubs away for a week
Speaker 1: or two. You don't have you you can't do that.
Speaker 1: I mean that's not something you're able to do as
Speaker 1: you're writing these journey books. How do you get through that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the hard part when when your golf is sort
Speaker 1: of abandoned you because it probably wasn't that long ago
Speaker 1: that you know you had your finger right on it,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, So it's been kind of cool on
Speaker 1: this trip and that going back to the social media
Speaker 1: and the posting and stuff, is I had my swing
Speaker 1: on video like four million times um on my phone.
Speaker 1: So what I'll do at night, um, this is I'll
Speaker 1: screwed up. I am. You know I should be doing
Speaker 1: anything else. But I'll be going through I know where
Speaker 1: you're going with this, and it's awesome, and I'll be
Speaker 1: looking frame by frame what's going on, and I'll compare
Speaker 1: it to like a day when I was striping it
Speaker 1: to like oh this video from today where I couldn't
Speaker 1: you know, find the clubs days and I'll come up
Speaker 1: with just okay, this is my swing thought for tomorrow,
Speaker 1: and I swear to God, I'll get excited again like
Speaker 1: if I can, just like like today, it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna post on my left hip and
Speaker 1: really fire my right side or you know, that was
Speaker 1: like two days ago, and it just totally worked, and
Speaker 1: I was so excited to go out and just have
Speaker 1: that one swing thought and use it. So I look
Speaker 1: at stuff and then I try to get um one
Speaker 1: thing that I'm going to try to accomplish in my
Speaker 1: swing and then go out and do it. And that
Speaker 1: kind of gets me fired up. Well, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'm sure seeing and play in different places get you
Speaker 1: fired up as well, because if you if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't gloss over the sign you're pulling into
Speaker 1: every golf course and membership is really it's the most
Speaker 1: fun part. I can only imagine of doing these books.
Speaker 1: I asked you this when we were playing together, But
Speaker 1: has there been a golf course And I know you've
Speaker 1: got you know, months left, but has there been a
Speaker 1: golf course throughout the journey that has shocked you, surprised
Speaker 1: you one you maybe you didn't hear about or knew
Speaker 1: about before you got there. Gosh, just been like so
Speaker 1: many and that Yeah, that's of course definitely the part
Speaker 1: that that pulls me out of bed and gets me
Speaker 1: down the road is is that I get to play
Speaker 1: these new and wonderful play They're all new to me,
Speaker 1: you know. So Um playing uh Yeaman's Hall was um,
Speaker 1: totally like a trip back in time and I knew
Speaker 1: nothing about that place. Um that was just a super
Speaker 1: interesting the history there of it sort of being this
Speaker 1: stop for the Rockefellers and the Catogs, et cetera on
Speaker 1: their way to Florida and they'd hang out there for
Speaker 1: a bit and have this beautiful, amazing, untouched you know.
Speaker 1: Rarely playing golf course, Um, that was super cool. Uh,
Speaker 1: Lawsonian in Wisconsin was like an eye opener for like
Speaker 1: a municipal course. I'm like, this is just as good
Speaker 1: as it gets. Um, gosh, just so many. I played
Speaker 1: one yesterday yesterday Northeast Harbor in um up here in Maine.
Speaker 1: Uh five thousand yards and the course record is mine
Speaker 1: for it was so damn hard and so cool up
Speaker 1: in the granite. Um, the granite of Maine. Uh, just
Speaker 1: stunningly beautiful with incredible history to like seeing mcdonaldy staying
Speaker 1: out there and stuff. Man, I could bore your listeners
Speaker 1: for hours with all my fines. Or against Silver Valley
Speaker 1: Ranch where they had the goats. I mean people know
Speaker 1: it for the goats, but the goat caddies. But um,
Speaker 1: getting there was just such challenge and then being rewarded
Speaker 1: for being there with this incredible reversible golf course that
Speaker 1: just blew me away. Um, oh my gosh. That the
Speaker 1: they're the surprises are they're endless? Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it is. I can so are you adding like are
Speaker 1: you adding courses? When you get to a place and
Speaker 1: somebody says to you, oh my goodness, you've got to
Speaker 1: go play here? Were you add a course or do
Speaker 1: you have your basically your schedule and the agenda where
Speaker 1: you're gonna play it? How much time you can spend
Speaker 1: their set? Yeah? Sometimes I can and sometimes I can't.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of it is. I mean, the ainerary
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes is completely fill out. But
Speaker 1: if there's something that I really have to do, I
Speaker 1: mean I can swap out. Of course, Um, trying not
Speaker 1: to hurt anyone's feelings and and and head elsewhere, and
Speaker 1: that happens once in a while. Um, I have a spot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I have a spot next week that I'm trying
Speaker 1: to have one spot and I'm trying to fill So
Speaker 1: there is just a tiny bit of flexibility. But all
Speaker 1: that stuff general really happened before I took off. You know,
Speaker 1: while I was building the itinerary, all the sort of
Speaker 1: you have to play here, you know, they all went
Speaker 1: on the map. Um. And then I started looking at
Speaker 1: the map and plotting routes, and then I started breaking
Speaker 1: those down into days and weeks and putting those onto
Speaker 1: the calendar. So um, it was just the logistics of
Speaker 1: organizing the whole thing. Um. I mean that was a
Speaker 1: year of work and now six months out here doing it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was I was reading Zach Low has
Speaker 1: this piece where he basically ranks the league pass NBA
Speaker 1: teams for the year and the most watchable and has
Speaker 1: you know this basically these these this number system he
Speaker 1: made up and and of course you know it's it's
Speaker 1: arbitrary to him, but you know that's how he ranks
Speaker 1: the teams. Do you have any sort of a system,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not points, obviously, but do you have
Speaker 1: a checklist of things you're looking for in a golf
Speaker 1: course you're looking for, in a club, you're looking for
Speaker 1: in the playing partners you're with. Are there things as
Speaker 1: you enter the gate of a place you've never been
Speaker 1: before that that will make it a great experience, a
Speaker 1: good experience, a decent experience, or even a bad experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good question because I was thinking about that, like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of little things when you're going to
Speaker 1: so many different courses and you know, what's the you know,
Speaker 1: is all right? Is there a gate? Is the guy
Speaker 1: going to be cool? Because that can set things the
Speaker 1: tone right there can be absolutely be really nice or
Speaker 1: kind of today is gonna be weird? Or I'm already
Speaker 1: a little bit afraid. Um, you know, can I just
Speaker 1: chill and change my shoes in the parking lot? Or
Speaker 1: is that going to get some member kicked out? Um? So,
Speaker 1: you know, is there is to dude? Do I have
Speaker 1: to go to the back drop? Is there dude at
Speaker 1: the back drop? Do I tip the dude at the
Speaker 1: back drop? Like all these little things And not that
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to to people, but sometimes there's clubs where
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to tip, and then there's places where
Speaker 1: if you if you forgot to tip, then you embarrass somebody.
Speaker 1: So it's like navigating that sort of language that sort
Speaker 1: of under these unspoken rules at all these different places
Speaker 1: is a little bit um is a little challenging. But
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be well. I know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good day. Like today, I went to Cape
Speaker 1: a Rundel in Maine and walked right up saw the
Speaker 1: parking lot. It had just a real quaint, small clubhouse,
Speaker 1: and it was obviously like, all right, I can change
Speaker 1: my shoes here in the parking lot, no problem, walk in,
Speaker 1: say hey here for some golf, you know, like that
Speaker 1: kind of attitude. I'm like, this is good. I like
Speaker 1: this place, like no fuss, no bullshit, I don't have
Speaker 1: to kill anybody's but um. And then it was even
Speaker 1: better when the system pro was like hey paper tiger, right,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, all right, cool, now I don't
Speaker 1: have to like beg for golf. Um. And it sound
Speaker 1: like what he didn't happen with them, but to say,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really handy when that happens, because it's
Speaker 1: not and not not because of my ego, just because
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to like convince them that um,
Speaker 1: I'm not some dude who's just looking for free golf, um,
Speaker 1: which is actually what I am, but that I have
Speaker 1: a legitimate purpose behind it. Um. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it all starts, I think, really with the with the
Speaker 1: welcome that you get, which is it seems sort of obvious,
Speaker 1: but you get all sorts of different welcomes, and some
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you're lucky to be here, and
Speaker 1: some feel like, you know, we're lucky to have it here.
Speaker 1: And obviously, um, the ladder is it's quite nice and
Speaker 1: and really for me like the less fussy and less
Speaker 1: fancy the better. I sometimes have a hard time like
Speaker 1: summoning the energy to um get all excited about um,
Speaker 1: you know, just worrying about the locker room and this
Speaker 1: done and the other. I just I just want to golf.
Speaker 1: And any place that's just like this is built just
Speaker 1: so you can golf. I'm always excited about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm imagining that there will be parts of the book,
Speaker 1: if not a part of the book, that will speak
Speaker 1: on this. Considering it was Ireland, Scotland and now the
Speaker 1: United States of America, which is a place with some
Speaker 1: of the most incredible golf courses in the world, but
Speaker 1: a lot of them, as you mentioned, have gates and
Speaker 1: they're closed and they're not that excited to have you there.
Speaker 1: And so that'll be an interesting kind of theme of
Speaker 1: the book if it's in there, about the difference in
Speaker 1: that because you had a chance to play. You know,
Speaker 1: when you think about Scotland, you can play any golf
Speaker 1: course in Scotland outside of one that everybody's heard of,
Speaker 1: and you can go walk up and if you pay
Speaker 1: your and you have a tea time you pay, they'll
Speaker 1: let you out there and you're good to go and here,
Speaker 1: even with your connections, I'm sure sometimes, as you said,
Speaker 1: you show up at these places and you feel like
Speaker 1: they are just ready for you to leave, and that
Speaker 1: isn't always the best feeling, especially when you're excited about him.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are the top twenty, top thirty, top
Speaker 1: on whatever you want to call them, golf courses in
Speaker 1: the country, and uh, and sometimes you know, you you
Speaker 1: you definitely aren't gonna be changing your shoes in the
Speaker 1: park a lot, I know, And I have some of
Speaker 1: those coming up this week and and that's great and
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it. Um, but that's absolutely a
Speaker 1: big theme that I hope that I don't hit it
Speaker 1: too hard in the book. Actually, you know, I'll definitely
Speaker 1: make the point so that you know that the golf
Speaker 1: has this accessibility over there versus our sort of close
Speaker 1: country club model. Um which one is better? I mean,
Speaker 1: and there are good things about both, um and And
Speaker 1: I don't know if their system would totally work over here.
Speaker 1: And I understand why the private club exists in America. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, in this country of sort of like mobile
Speaker 1: class structure, etcetera. Like that's the year golf club was
Speaker 1: a way to sort of distinguish yourself. Um And I
Speaker 1: get it. And and that's all. That's all fine and well,
Speaker 1: um but yeah, there there are those that that that
Speaker 1: sense of you know, when I leave the property, I
Speaker 1: get to exhale, like I get that at some places.
Speaker 1: Um And and that's not the best um and And
Speaker 1: it's kind of a shame because it's just the place
Speaker 1: to play a game, right, Um. We lump all this
Speaker 1: other stuff onto it and attach all this other sort
Speaker 1: of meaning to it as well. Um And And on
Speaker 1: one side of it, that adds to the excitement and
Speaker 1: the lure. Uh And on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: it just seems like kind of like a hot air,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you always there. There are flip
Speaker 1: sides to it, though, you know. I played Towel Club
Speaker 1: the day before our hundredhole High count in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and I knew nothing about what to expect when I arrived,
Speaker 1: and the membership from the start were unbelievable. I mean
Speaker 1: they were they These guys were getting up and introducing themselves,
Speaker 1: and somebody bought me a beer at the bar as
Speaker 1: the football was on because it was a Sunday, and
Speaker 1: they got me a locker and I could throw my
Speaker 1: travel bag in there because I hadn't gone to the
Speaker 1: hotel yet. And when we got done, it was like
Speaker 1: hanging around after it was. It was just one of
Speaker 1: those environments that you felt like you were a part
Speaker 1: of it. You felt like you almost that they were
Speaker 1: excited to have you there, that you belonged, and that
Speaker 1: they didn't want to see you go. And that again,
Speaker 1: for a very nice private club, is a great feeling
Speaker 1: to have. So there are some out there that are
Speaker 1: the complete opposite, and those are the ones when you
Speaker 1: leave you're like, I cannot wait to get back to
Speaker 1: this place and play here. Again because the experience is
Speaker 1: better than the golf course, and the golf course is
Speaker 1: damn good as well. I'm gonna ask you a couple
Speaker 1: of questions and i'll let you go. First question, somebody's
Speaker 1: about to play golf with Tom coyn during either this
Speaker 1: ex variance or otherwise. What's the one question they should
Speaker 1: not ask you while if you're playing eighteen holes? It's
Speaker 1: a long list. Um. Uh, they ask me why I'm
Speaker 1: not walking this one? That that that I get? What
Speaker 1: do they say? But so you're not walking this one?
Speaker 1: You know, because I walked to Ireland and I'm in America,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not for not walking. That annoys me on
Speaker 1: numerous levels. Um, because it's like, well, you're first belittling
Speaker 1: what I'm actually trying to accomplish, and to um, you
Speaker 1: just wasted your breath because that was a stupid question.
Speaker 1: But yeah, alright, that's that's a good one. Um. Second
Speaker 1: question and then you get to go, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. Are we playing golf while you're in Phoenix, Arizona?
Speaker 1: For the book? Hell? Yeah we are. Where are you
Speaker 1: paying while you're here? Jeez? Looking life, I can't find
Speaker 1: my phone? Um, where's what's in Phoenix. I think you're
Speaker 1: playing I think you said you're playing Papago, which is
Speaker 1: a great municipal golf course in the center of town.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's a place that I would say might
Speaker 1: have one of the best money games early in the
Speaker 1: week every week, and you'll see many tour guys go
Speaker 1: out there and even PGA tour players at times. Corn
Speaker 1: Ferry guys will play in it. And it's a it's
Speaker 1: it's a desert golf course where you can find your
Speaker 1: golf ball. So two thumbs up for Papaga. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love Papago, and let's get some of that money game
Speaker 1: actually going. I think I think it's Monday. I get
Speaker 1: my shots. Ah, you don't. You don't get shots in
Speaker 1: the in the in the in the Pavago money game.
Speaker 1: You gotta play them straight up. But their skins involved.
Speaker 1: There's closest to involved. And uh, there's about seventeen ways
Speaker 1: you can win and or lose money in those games
Speaker 1: because they're really well designed. But even if you're playing terrible,
Speaker 1: they have a final five game where it's the final
Speaker 1: five whole score and that's it. And if you play
Speaker 1: the final five a couple under you, you tend to
Speaker 1: win your money back. Dig it all right, I'm in.
Speaker 1: Let's do that Papago and then hopefully I can take
Speaker 1: you out to Phoenix Country Club if it works, Tom,
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time, and thanks again for the invite
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Speaker 1: for being a part of it. I could not have
Speaker 1: made it through without your following me through your optimism
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