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Speaker 1: we are back in the s WBC studios having some
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Isaiah stand back, Hello, we're in
Speaker 1: the bright yellow jersey. Doug alright. Want to make you
Speaker 1: y'all see me since you got the yellow submarine in
Speaker 1: the building. Yes, sir, that's him. That's it. Wait, we're
Speaker 1: playing high and go seek after this Laga La Liga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. You have no idea named one other
Speaker 1: team in La Man. I know the person's jersey I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: Name one of the Kedler shot out to one of
Speaker 1: my clients, Kinney Keler, trainer from high school all the
Speaker 1: way to playing pro that's pretty cool. You said La Liga.
Speaker 1: He said, it's got a big patch on his flight sleeve.
Speaker 1: You see, you've never heard of Real Madrid. I have
Speaker 1: FC Barcelo. I'm trying to learn a lot more about
Speaker 1: soccer because I'm trying to introduce my kids to watching
Speaker 1: more soccer being that we're financially invested. So I'm like, you, guys,
Speaker 1: gotta watch them dog on soccer. So now we're just
Speaker 1: watching games and I'm learning. That's a good thing for
Speaker 1: you because your facility is in Coppel, right, Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: in Lewisville, Nowisville now right, Okay, still a hotbed of
Speaker 1: soccer town, a lot of soccer because Copel Louisville. He
Speaker 1: resolutely always usually really good in the soccer game. Heck,
Speaker 1: my Harrison back in studio as all days? How's it
Speaker 1: going with my friend? Oh? Good good. It feels good
Speaker 1: to be back in studio. You know why? Why is that?
Speaker 1: Because Rob Phillips is Rob missed last week. But we
Speaker 1: are glad to have you back and ready to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we discussed a minute ago where I was let's not
Speaker 1: talk about it. We're not gonna do it. Just back.
Speaker 1: It is period. It's great to be back. That's as
Speaker 1: far as we need to go. We'll be here for
Speaker 1: the next hour. I love our hour shows, man, I
Speaker 1: love the hour shows. Well, you get a chance to
Speaker 1: kind of play back show the personality a little bit more.
Speaker 1: It's not as straightforward business as we do a lot
Speaker 1: of time. We're gonna get you a smaller hoodie. Man,
Speaker 1: you slimming down, slim I'm with you. I'm like in
Speaker 1: the gene. I don't know who there wants to challenge
Speaker 1: me right now, but it probably wouldn't be a good
Speaker 1: idea to stop it. Let's stop it. I'm feeling I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good. I hit a hit a PR. I hit
Speaker 1: a first. I hit a PR today that I haven't
Speaker 1: hit in sometime. I guess it's not a PR, but
Speaker 1: I guess it's. Oh no, I did h two eighty
Speaker 1: five on some hand cleans and three forty on bench.
Speaker 1: That's what really surprised Meye, it moved, and it moved pretty.
Speaker 1: There was something left. I had some left in the tank.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't like struggle bust. You're about seventy percent of
Speaker 1: what Rob can do on a normal day. You're almost there.
Speaker 1: What you think your bench is right now, just straight up,
Speaker 1: like if you had to, like to save your life,
Speaker 1: what could you get to chat the bar off your chest?
Speaker 1: The bar is forty five? Ye he knows that, but hey,
Speaker 1: I play. I mean I used, I used to lift,
Speaker 1: not like I said, I'll tell you let me. I
Speaker 1: don't know, slap a couple of tens on each side.
Speaker 1: That what we curled. We taped our season and review
Speaker 1: show a couple weeks ago, and Isaiah just every time
Speaker 1: you talk about weights, it's just I just like I
Speaker 1: just want to go crawl in the corner. And we
Speaker 1: were about to tape it, and Isaiah, it's like you
Speaker 1: came late because you're you're late. You had you had
Speaker 1: business and you're you're dressing in studio and it took
Speaker 1: a while. I mean you had to button. Now you're like, god,
Speaker 1: this church's tie. I did too many push ups today.
Speaker 1: I'm like, my God, just just putting me during the season.
Speaker 1: During the season, it's at least for myself, for my schedule,
Speaker 1: it's hard to maintain direct not that I would like to.
Speaker 1: So I literally I get skinny, man, I get thin
Speaker 1: walking up, I get thin mass the shirt I go down.
Speaker 1: So my weight fluctuates, so I'm anywhere from two. On
Speaker 1: the light end, I'm two fifteen. At the high end,
Speaker 1: I'm like two forty, two forty two. So right now
Speaker 1: I'm like two forty. Yeah. But when I was playing here,
Speaker 1: I was two of seven. Man, don't nobody want to
Speaker 1: talk weights? And wait with you? You're losing weight, all right?
Speaker 1: I mean, but come on you you open up the
Speaker 1: show up? Yeah, pr I was excited that I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't gas the reason, no, I have to dask
Speaker 1: myself off because there's some gentlemen upstairs that feel as
Speaker 1: if they're still gonna challenge me. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: They're still talking about it roppy with barrier. Danny, Danny, Danny, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Danny sizes me up every single Time's not gonna back down.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I just out in my head
Speaker 1: about what it would be to bitch press three hundred
Speaker 1: and forty pounds right now. And let me tell you something. Bayless,
Speaker 1: Scott and White's next door, and I'm so happy Eric here,
Speaker 1: I just put my labor two pectoral forty. That rip
Speaker 1: wasn't clothing, that was my That's a good sight too.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see that we're gonna get a
Speaker 1: new drop out of this. Yeah. Absolutely, something out of
Speaker 1: there needs to be just said. I'm right now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna gasp myself up, I'm gonna get that. Oh goodness.
Speaker 1: But really, credit to both of you guys down at
Speaker 1: the end of the table. He was looking fantastic. I say,
Speaker 1: it is bulking up. It looks fantastic. You guys are
Speaker 1: an inspiration to Rob. Yeah, we got maybe maybe one
Speaker 1: day figured out. All right, let's talk about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: a little bit. There's been a lot going on the
Speaker 1: last week around the Star, maybe not so much on
Speaker 1: the field or anything. We're still kind of waiting for
Speaker 1: that March a March fourteenth, when we finally get to
Speaker 1: start building this roster again towards twenty twenty, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that a little bit later on, talking
Speaker 1: a little draft as well. Are you optimistic about those dates? Like,
Speaker 1: when you think about the fourteenth, sixteenth, are you like,
Speaker 1: is there is there is that a light at the
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel tunnel? Or is that the tred
Speaker 1: train coming at you? Is it the freight train? Which
Speaker 1: one is it? I mean, how are you thinking about that?
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest question right now is because
Speaker 1: there's so much pure negativity around the cap situation. Twenty
Speaker 1: one million dollars over the cap, that's the number you
Speaker 1: hear day in and day out around here. You got
Speaker 1: to find a way to make the right decisions on
Speaker 1: who is leaving, because there are gonna be many guys
Speaker 1: who leave here and you're going to be disappointed. So
Speaker 1: they might look like the freight train coming right at you,
Speaker 1: and that's the light that's at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1: It's coming at you rather than there's a lot of
Speaker 1: optimism around this team, and Rob you'd probably add to
Speaker 1: this as well. With the cap situation at hand. It
Speaker 1: goes back to what the Jones family has been talking about.
Speaker 1: There are tough decisions on the horizon, and those decisions
Speaker 1: are nearing very quickly. Yeah, the franchise tag window starts today.
Speaker 1: You got until March eight to tack somebody. If you
Speaker 1: want to tack somebody, I don't know if they will
Speaker 1: because to your point, trying to slot a guaranteed one
Speaker 1: year salary that's the top five average of any position
Speaker 1: in the league, or top ten if it's a transition
Speaker 1: tag that's that's gonna be tough to do. I think
Speaker 1: if you're a fan, heck, you might say freight train,
Speaker 1: just because you know they don't. Fans want to see
Speaker 1: the big splash, and I don't think that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: especially not this year. It hasn't happened since I don't
Speaker 1: know Brandon Carr in twenty twelve, where they really spent
Speaker 1: big on the first week of free agency, and I
Speaker 1: think they've you listen to Stephen Jones talk like they
Speaker 1: they've warned us there they're going to be very judicious
Speaker 1: with the cap room that they do have, and to
Speaker 1: your point, they're gonna have to get creative just to
Speaker 1: create the room. And they can do that and they
Speaker 1: will do that. They do it every year, but they
Speaker 1: don't have a bunch to spend. And that's what happens
Speaker 1: when you know, for starters, your starting quarterback is taken
Speaker 1: up thirty plus million on the cap. So always about
Speaker 1: the slice of the pie. But you've got to find
Speaker 1: a way to feel the roster that you feel good about,
Speaker 1: especially when you have that core foundation. I was on
Speaker 1: a podcast this weekend. They asked me that same question,
Speaker 1: where do you feel like your expectations are right this
Speaker 1: second about the twenty twenty two season, and I still
Speaker 1: kind of said they're decently high because you have a foundation,
Speaker 1: because you have a quarterback. Yeah, you paid him a
Speaker 1: lot of money, but you still feel very comfortable at
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott can be that quarterback to lead you
Speaker 1: to the promised land. But you also have a core
Speaker 1: of young players as well that you really do feel
Speaker 1: good about moving forward. So, Isaiah, I ask you that
Speaker 1: same question, is there any chance that your expectations shift
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, because well, right now
Speaker 1: they feel bad, but there's still some optimism there as well.
Speaker 1: They shifted when a clock went to zero. Reason being,
Speaker 1: you know, I believe, I personally believe that they've missed
Speaker 1: their window. I personally it's close. I think that windows sure, no,
Speaker 1: w D forty wow, right, I think the windows closed
Speaker 1: because you had a stacked roster. You had a stack
Speaker 1: coaching staff, and you still retain the majority of them.
Speaker 1: Let's say they're coaching, they're they're back, and you had
Speaker 1: a stacked roster. Now you're faced with the same decision.
Speaker 1: You have to face this every single offseason. Oh we
Speaker 1: gotta make tough decisions. Oh, we gotta even gotta cut
Speaker 1: some guys, gotta let some guys go, Guys that we
Speaker 1: would love to sign back. We're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to hold them all. You hear the same little rhetoric
Speaker 1: every single year, but this year is even it's even
Speaker 1: greater because you know, everybody, everybody in Cowboys the nation. No,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose some a great player, a great player
Speaker 1: on offense and or defense. You're gonna lose a superstar.
Speaker 1: You're going to lose the superstar on offense and or defense.
Speaker 1: And I say, and because it might possibly be two,
Speaker 1: you're gonna when I when they say tough decisions, this
Speaker 1: is not like, oh we couldn't retain Curse. You know what,
Speaker 1: he's a really good player. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: good contributions. We're not gonna able to retain that. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be something seismic. Yeah, that's you're gonna that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and people are gonna be boo hoo. You
Speaker 1: know your whole cap myth. You know, the cap is
Speaker 1: a myth. Every year teams to say we're in cap trouble.
Speaker 1: They find a way, whether you use the word kicking it,
Speaker 1: kick the can down the road, whatever, re shuffle, reschedule,
Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna do with the money we can. We
Speaker 1: can restructure guys. Right there, Guys are gonna get cut.
Speaker 1: We know that last year. We're going into this year
Speaker 1: that may be the same thing. So I don't worry
Speaker 1: about that as much because I know that there are
Speaker 1: the powers that be that are going to figure this out.
Speaker 1: You still got to sign all your draft picks as well, ye,
Speaker 1: So if we lose some guys, let's just say on defense,
Speaker 1: we talked about it last week, Maybe we lose a tank,
Speaker 1: maybe we lose age or run curse. That's why the
Speaker 1: draft and other areas may become more pivotal than before.
Speaker 1: And also, look, we hadn't gotten to this point, but
Speaker 1: free agency is going to be very important. I mean
Speaker 1: we've on over the years where you wanted to sign
Speaker 1: Steffan Gilmore, we wanted to sign a certain free agent
Speaker 1: safety for the Seattle from back in the day that
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. All right, we didn't do was it
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams? And those times that we could have gotten
Speaker 1: those signs, signings done. I still believe that there are
Speaker 1: going to be those free agents out there that can
Speaker 1: make an immediate impact that may allow you to forget
Speaker 1: about some of the guys that you lose. Yes, the
Speaker 1: team is going to be different, but the majority of
Speaker 1: teams from top to bottom are going to be different.
Speaker 1: We should expect it. I think to your point, heck,
Speaker 1: like they've they did a great job last year signing
Speaker 1: got like targeting guys, especially on defense, like Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: This fits his scheme, Carlo and you just go down
Speaker 1: the list, Carlos Watkins, Terrell Basham, Kean O'Neill, Malie Cooker,
Speaker 1: Kasey Curse, like they really. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they batted a thousand, but it was pretty close
Speaker 1: to the problem with that is, I mean you looked
Speaker 1: the year before though, and they batted whatever it was
Speaker 1: on defense. And I do think when you're when you're
Speaker 1: waiting into the later waves pools of free agency, that's
Speaker 1: more of a challenge because you've got guys that you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not the market's not as robust, and you're
Speaker 1: you're taking chances on players that there's something either they're
Speaker 1: not proven, or they've been hurt or something. And so
Speaker 1: I think and that's what they're going to continue to do.
Speaker 1: So they've got to nail that. I mean, we talked
Speaker 1: about nail in the draft all the time. That's a given.
Speaker 1: They've got to find a way to replicate what they
Speaker 1: did last year, and I think that's going to be challenging. However,
Speaker 1: I do think. I mean to I say his point like,
Speaker 1: they missed a huge opportunity. But the division still doesn't
Speaker 1: look very good and not right now, not right now,
Speaker 1: and you know some of the teams that we think
Speaker 1: they're they're facing, it's gonna be really difficult. Who is
Speaker 1: Green based quarterback, Who's Tampa based quarterback? All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: those two games don't look as difficult when you talk
Speaker 1: about a first place schedule. So I still think they
Speaker 1: can definitely win the division and put themselves back in position.
Speaker 1: Are they going to be as good as they were
Speaker 1: last year? They gonna be deep, they can be as healthy,
Speaker 1: that's the question. And I think to me it comes
Speaker 1: down to can they get Dak in position to be
Speaker 1: dominant in the playoffs back to where he was early
Speaker 1: in the season. To me, that's where that's the key
Speaker 1: to the season. No matter what they do in the offseason. Basically,
Speaker 1: whenever you look at the contract for Dak Prescott, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about this at links and on this show,
Speaker 1: but whenever you pay a quarterback that much money, he's
Speaker 1: supposed to make up for the shortcomings. He's supposed to
Speaker 1: fill the gaps of a roster that may not be
Speaker 1: as strong. You see that around the league with Green
Speaker 1: Bay and Aaron Rodgers. This year wasn't the best roster
Speaker 1: green Bay has ever had around Aaron Rodgers, yet they
Speaker 1: still were the number one seedon of course, they ended
Speaker 1: in disappointment as well, so it becomes a question on
Speaker 1: his category. Do you feel that way about Dak Prescott still?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he can make up for the
Speaker 1: shortcomings because this year there were no shortcomings to a
Speaker 1: certain extent around the roster. There were certainly holes, but
Speaker 1: for the most part, you like you said, you were stacked.
Speaker 1: You had the talent, you had the health, you felt
Speaker 1: good going into the postseason, yet you had a shortcoming
Speaker 1: as a whole. This year, there are going to be
Speaker 1: plenty of shortcomings that are going to be on that roster.
Speaker 1: Ken Dak Prescott filled that void. Y'all know. I have
Speaker 1: defended Dak to no end. You know I have you
Speaker 1: know and and not apologized about it. Sure, I feel
Speaker 1: as though you know Dak. When you start mentioning those
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, the identity of those teams are that quarterback.
Speaker 1: When you think of the Dallas Cowboys, that's not the
Speaker 1: identity of this team. And I don't know how you
Speaker 1: change that. Even if Dak has that success next year,
Speaker 1: I still think that there are other things that you
Speaker 1: are starting to ask yourself, what is going to be
Speaker 1: the identity of this team. We would think that it
Speaker 1: was Zeke the running game, but we've gotten away from
Speaker 1: that completely to the point that even when you start
Speaker 1: grading the running game, you graded on a curve because
Speaker 1: seventeen games you gotta thout, you know, things like That's
Speaker 1: still that's not our identity. Dak has to step up
Speaker 1: and be that. If last year was his confidence was down,
Speaker 1: or Wayne because of the injury that he had the
Speaker 1: year before, if there was some mental residual from that,
Speaker 1: all those things, he has to get over and take
Speaker 1: another step in his second year. I'm called to answer
Speaker 1: your question. Yes, I believe that he can be. I
Speaker 1: believe that he will be. I don't think that he
Speaker 1: was a difference maker last year, and I just got
Speaker 1: to keep it real. In those games where he could
Speaker 1: have been the difference, he didn't. You pointed out there
Speaker 1: are times where we needed him to use his legs.
Speaker 1: Did he use him? No? All right? There were times
Speaker 1: where there were awful turnovers. There were games where obviously
Speaker 1: we need an additional throw from our quarterback. He couldn't
Speaker 1: make it. Next year. We can't have the same can't
Speaker 1: have the same conversation. And when you look around the
Speaker 1: league at the guys that do, obviously that's the separation
Speaker 1: between him and those quote unquote elite quarterbacks. I've been
Speaker 1: on this island and not rob p Island by myself
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Well with you guys, I've
Speaker 1: been there. I've been there, right, I mean when any
Speaker 1: Dalton gut signed and I said that he had a
Speaker 1: stronger arm, all those kind of things. People have been
Speaker 1: throwing torches at me for a long time. IRS Island,
Speaker 1: Irs Island? Is there? Does that happen? That's the best
Speaker 1: of place, desert, that's a place American Airlines doesn't fly
Speaker 1: there place. However, a couple of boats and row it
Speaker 1: yourself exactly battle Board. I still stand on this island
Speaker 1: and say that I don't believe Dak is an elite quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good quarterback. I think he's a
Speaker 1: really good quarterback at times. But when you start thinking
Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks that are considered elite, you have full
Speaker 1: confidence in those quarterbacks that they are gonna win you
Speaker 1: the ball game, no doubt about it. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the opponent presents. You feel like they're ready for
Speaker 1: any situation. It doesn't matter what the situation it is.
Speaker 1: You feel like they've already been through it a thousand
Speaker 1: thousand times and you just know that they're gonna get
Speaker 1: you out of it. And you think about it, even
Speaker 1: as bad as Seattle is, you still have hoping in
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Right, you got Aaron Rodgers. You just know
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers're gonna ge on the situation. TV twelve. There's
Speaker 1: just some guys, Drew Brees when he was like, you
Speaker 1: just knew there was some guys that once they're on
Speaker 1: the field, I don't give a dog on what they do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna He's gonna find his way out of this.
Speaker 1: You don't get that with Dak and what is it
Speaker 1: gonna take. It's gonna take victories, what they're gonna take.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take tough games. It's gonna take, you know,
Speaker 1: getting out of bad situations. It's gonna take dominant performances.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take accuracy, it's gonna take velocity. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take this decision making all these things. Right, there's not
Speaker 1: just one thing that's gonna happen to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: he's elite now, right, He's just not that guy yet?
Speaker 1: Can he be? Absolutely? What is it gonna take for
Speaker 1: him to take that step? I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: know that they have to start stacking up these wins
Speaker 1: and you can't miss out on opportunities like they had
Speaker 1: this year. That was a huge letdown. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody would say any different. And those types of losses
Speaker 1: and those types of opportunities where he does not step
Speaker 1: into that role is what prevents him from being a
Speaker 1: quote unquote elite. Do you think did you think Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford was in that category until he had that winning
Speaker 1: drive the other night? I still don't put math. I
Speaker 1: just I just I still think that he just has
Speaker 1: a mean, he's a really good quarterback. Yeah, I'll put
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll put Dak in Matthew Stafford kind of. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So because I'm with you, like I think the list
Speaker 1: when you talk, it's short, and you mentioned Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame guys, like guys that are punched their ticket already
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. There that is a special
Speaker 1: type of quarterback. And I agree with I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I think Dad can get there. I think Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford people thought maybe he couldn't get there. He got there.
Speaker 1: I think, like heck right, Like he's got to elevate
Speaker 1: his play and he said that, Um, but I think
Speaker 1: there's some things around him that have to be elevated too.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about the scheme. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they've got to find ways to scheme things up to
Speaker 1: make things better for him. And I know it sounds
Speaker 1: like excuses, but I think when you fail, when you
Speaker 1: fail like this, and there's a problem offensively for ten
Speaker 1: weeks and it doesn't fully get fixed unless you're kind
Speaker 1: of playing bad teams. It's not just the quarterback, it's
Speaker 1: not just the offensive coordinator. I think we've talked about
Speaker 1: a lot of things. There's a lot of reasons why
Speaker 1: it didn't work. I think the offensive line was a
Speaker 1: factor too, and they've got a dress that from a
Speaker 1: personnel side, I think it's going to take a lot
Speaker 1: of things to get to figure out what happened to
Speaker 1: this offense down the stretch and get it right. I
Speaker 1: totally agree with you. If you had to compare the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals to the Dallas Cowboys, that's so not fair.
Speaker 1: It's very much fair because they quarterback. You've got to
Speaker 1: talk about the quarterback is I'm just saying just the teams, Okay,
Speaker 1: just a team. I'm talking about individuals, Okay, just the teams.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see where you're going because right now
Speaker 1: I'm with heckma, I don't how can you? Why is
Speaker 1: it not fair to compare those two? Because go ahead
Speaker 1: and you go for it. No, you said it first.
Speaker 1: I'll back you up. It's just I think that quarterback
Speaker 1: is his level of elite is where he is the
Speaker 1: quintessential first round draft pick in the NFL draft period.
Speaker 1: You look over the time in the league, he is
Speaker 1: that guy for that, the throws that he make, he
Speaker 1: is a difference maker to that, the velocity, all of
Speaker 1: those things that's him Burrow, and just there's no way
Speaker 1: that he is not the future of not only the NFL,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the AFC. Just everybody said to themselves like,
Speaker 1: oh crap, this guy is going to make it hard
Speaker 1: on us for a very long time. I just don't
Speaker 1: see Deck in that same breath. I just he's not there.
Speaker 1: My whole thing is it's a great point you guys
Speaker 1: mean in terms of just being able to elevate everything else. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's that's what you guys mean, because we can agree
Speaker 1: the Bengals had half of what the Cowboys had. Yes,
Speaker 1: personnel wise, they are the exception, not the rule in
Speaker 1: terms of building a roster name in the last time. Half,
Speaker 1: I don't know about half. I mean, they've got they've
Speaker 1: got the best young receiver in the league, and and
Speaker 1: but they don't have an offensive line right, no offensive line.
Speaker 1: They do have a good running game, they don't have
Speaker 1: a good offensive line. We all pros that we have
Speaker 1: on offensive line. Two yeah, okay, and they had how
Speaker 1: many zero? Okay? One? Your left tackle was not right
Speaker 1: the whole season. Here's what got Zach. The line was
Speaker 1: not you're talk about talking abent. You're talking about a
Speaker 1: team that was giving up seven sacks a game time,
Speaker 1: I would I'm with you there, But he still figured
Speaker 1: it out. So that's what different. Okay, so we're saying,
Speaker 1: so we're saying Burrows above Dak. Is that what we're saying? Yeah, okay, absolutely,
Speaker 1: at least nothing wrong with that this year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think it could be the other way around
Speaker 1: next year, No doubt in my mind, I think Dak
Speaker 1: Scott can get back to being a mobile Dak Prescott. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's a decision. It's absolutely just a decision. So by
Speaker 1: saying that, though, by saying that, oh man, that's not good.
Speaker 1: Here's a thing. If Dak improves his game, there should
Speaker 1: be zero excuses for this entire organization, is what we're saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: can he improve his game? Because their defense was was good.
Speaker 1: It wasn't freaking amazing. Talk about Cincinnati. That is okay.
Speaker 1: Their officer line was terrible. Defense was pretty darn good.
Speaker 1: Their defense played well, yeah right, but they didn't have
Speaker 1: names like the personnel. I guess I'm talking about personnel.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talk about skiing. I'm talk about this personnel.
Speaker 1: Have you took the Cincinnati roster and you're playing a
Speaker 1: game of blitz, old school blitz, and you took their roster,
Speaker 1: you picked Cowboys. You're picking the Cowboys all day long.
Speaker 1: Is it possible we just pumped up the Cowboys roster
Speaker 1: and then personnel on that side of the a little
Speaker 1: bit too much. I don't think so. I think they
Speaker 1: played well. Okay, I like the rabbit hole you're taking
Speaker 1: this down. This is this is this is fair. This
Speaker 1: is fair. If the Cincinnati Bengals played the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: who should win that game? Cowboys talent wise, but you
Speaker 1: know they didn't always work out on paper versus on
Speaker 1: the field. If you put them on the field, who
Speaker 1: should win the game. But who was in the Super
Speaker 1: bowls Rams had the betest giving up seven sacks a game, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and they still found a way to do it get
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Kind of with Kyle like, I
Speaker 1: think this is very talented team, but I watched every
Speaker 1: playoff game and I think sometimes maybe we're a little
Speaker 1: too close to it and we think, you know, this
Speaker 1: is the elite, elite talent, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: teams have really good players. I'm with you. If you
Speaker 1: stack the rosters one through fifty three. I take the
Speaker 1: Cowboys talent, but I think the Bengals I think they had.
Speaker 1: They showed that some really good players at a good
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah. You know, name a position group aside
Speaker 1: from quarterback that you would swap out with Cincinnati Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase a position group. Yeah, I'll give you the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: You would take Cincinnati's wide receivers over downas Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: Higgins and Boyd. Those three were fantastic. That's a conversation
Speaker 1: we weren't having last year. No, it's not one. He's
Speaker 1: different and I just want to go back to the
Speaker 1: Dak argument at seven their tackles too. By the way,
Speaker 1: at seven years, he's seven years in the league. And
Speaker 1: even talking about potential with the quarterback that's been in
Speaker 1: the league for seven years, Like, at what point are
Speaker 1: you what you? You're that? All right? You aren't what
Speaker 1: you are? Ye? Who are you today? I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking questions. One thing you know that you
Speaker 1: get from number four is that you get you get
Speaker 1: a leader. You get a guy that's gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and ball like a dog. I mean, regardless if
Speaker 1: he has some shortcomings in his arm. He's gonna give
Speaker 1: you everything you've got. And I think that's what got
Speaker 1: him the massive contract is you knew you got a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna put it on the line every week.
Speaker 1: Does that make him Arino? Does that make him Montana? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna jump out the cake like that. So
Speaker 1: you asked me about Joe Burrow. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. Joe Faller, Okay, he can make all of
Speaker 1: the throws. He tight window throws. He could do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if four could do that, but if
Speaker 1: I had a game to win, I would say I
Speaker 1: need four. I need four for that one. Even the
Speaker 1: numbers dictate that he has more come behind victories than
Speaker 1: guys that were even in his class. That that shows
Speaker 1: that he is that winner. To go back to what
Speaker 1: you were saying, if I do I depend on what
Speaker 1: can He's already showed you that he could do that.
Speaker 1: Then he could come back from behind that he can
Speaker 1: win you. That's what he's done and the stats say that. Isaiah.
Speaker 1: It's interesting conversation conversation because I think it's the key two.
Speaker 1: It is if Dad can be dak from the first
Speaker 1: six games, and what Jerry Jones always says is if
Speaker 1: I if I've seen it, I know it can happen.
Speaker 1: And through six seven games, Dak looked like maybe the
Speaker 1: MVP of the league. They have to get him back
Speaker 1: to He has to get back to that. When we
Speaker 1: come back on the other side of the break, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this a little bit more, and
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the lessons learned from twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one in that regard kind of going off of
Speaker 1: your point, continuing this will also take your fan questions.
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Speaker 1: all right. I want to continue this Dak Prescott conversation,
Speaker 1: and maybe not Dak Prescott conversation, but mostly roster building
Speaker 1: around him. I'm looking at the over the cap situation,
Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two million dollars over the cap. I've
Speaker 1: brought up this website. It's called over Thecap dot com.
Speaker 1: You can go do this yourself as well. It's got
Speaker 1: a little calculator's fun with it. It's definitely a great site.
Speaker 1: They do a good job of it. I have done
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, and we've talked about this before
Speaker 1: on this this podcast. But I've cut DeMarcus Lawrence and
Speaker 1: a Mariy Cooper and we still only have twelve million
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. Back up, back up, you just
Speaker 1: did what. I cut DeMarcus Lawrence post June one and
Speaker 1: I cut A Marie Cooper pre June one. Rest I
Speaker 1: have not restructured Dak yet, So that's the only two
Speaker 1: moves I've done. So I went worst case scenario twelve
Speaker 1: million dollars. So basically, you still have to you still
Speaker 1: have to sign your entire draft class, which will be
Speaker 1: six seven, eight picks, and that's probably gonna take ten
Speaker 1: million out salary cap. So you still only have two
Speaker 1: million dollars to play around with, and that's baseline without
Speaker 1: signing anybody else. So there's a strong possibility that, like
Speaker 1: Isaiah said in the first segment, you're losing multiple superstars.
Speaker 1: Do you still feel comfortable with Dak filling that up
Speaker 1: and having the same kind of success or do you
Speaker 1: feel like he is hamstrung without the same kind of
Speaker 1: talent around him moving into the twenty twenty two season.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest question right now, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a question that the Cowboys front office has to answer. Wow,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have the third worst. Yes, factors are worse
Speaker 1: worse than that and Saints Saints and both of those teams.
Speaker 1: The Rams are in a better position than the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Rams. It's like we talk about the Bengals,
Speaker 1: how like the Bengals debunk every explication went wrong in
Speaker 1: terms of salary caps, Like how the Rams do this? Ye?
Speaker 1: You know what were arguing about last week? I don't
Speaker 1: know y'all argue about? Were even are you arguing about?
Speaker 1: Talk about the Rams and what they did in this
Speaker 1: salary camp with worst I don't know. Back, Okay, I
Speaker 1: will say this. I think with the Vaughan trade, I
Speaker 1: think Denver paid like the rest of his salary. Thing
Speaker 1: is they have no draft picks coming up. They have none.
Speaker 1: I mean that was a free agent by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean at some point the lack of draft picks
Speaker 1: will get them once the roster because they don't have to,
Speaker 1: They're probably going to let some free agents go. I
Speaker 1: think it will get them at some point. Just look
Speaker 1: at this bow. Yeah but it does? Does it matter? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It does? I don't know if it matters. Let's need shirt,
Speaker 1: you know, f them picks there you go Rob p
Speaker 1: Island back that. I didn't say that they can create room.
Speaker 1: They can. They can create room. They can restructure guys.
Speaker 1: They can do just what the Rams do, and they
Speaker 1: can create enough room. And they're gonna have to because
Speaker 1: you got to replace I mean potentially twenty spots or whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, some guys will be back, but they they'll
Speaker 1: make the room. But they're not going to take a
Speaker 1: huge bite of the free agent apple. They just don't
Speaker 1: do that. They're gonna do what they've been doing. And
Speaker 1: that's a week or two into free agency. Start finding
Speaker 1: guys on one year deals. Florida teams are about to
Speaker 1: spend some money. M hmm. It's a cool website. Are
Speaker 1: you playing around with it? I'm looking at it, you're
Speaker 1: looking at it. The Bengals have the fourth best situation.
Speaker 1: I did restructure DAC and now it gave me twenty
Speaker 1: eight cap. So even that gives you an opportunity to
Speaker 1: go and mess around with it a little more. But
Speaker 1: I still also killed the market Florence and Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: So let's back off of that a little bit. You
Speaker 1: want to back off of that, so I cut a
Speaker 1: Mari or yeah, only a mari nine million dollars and
Speaker 1: now I've only cut the Marcus and it's twelve million
Speaker 1: again with the restructure of God, does that make you better?
Speaker 1: Though it doesn't, it doesn't look. Look, we had a
Speaker 1: situation last year where we still had did money that
Speaker 1: we were dealing with. I mean, we have it now, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but some of that dead money's fallen off. I believe,
Speaker 1: you know was Jerreal McCoy was still there. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: cut Jalen Smith and paid him just not to be here.
Speaker 1: So and I think that was the offensive. Yeah. Stop,
Speaker 1: there's just that dead money situation that we had. I mean,
Speaker 1: but then again this year, how do we get better?
Speaker 1: This has been my thing with cutting Tank. You know,
Speaker 1: the production, the production has to obviously be there from Tank.
Speaker 1: I think the foot injury definitely limited him. The only
Speaker 1: one to me is Coop. That's the big mystery, because
Speaker 1: if we can't figure out a way to get Cooped
Speaker 1: the ball, then we're wasting him. And it may not
Speaker 1: be the conventional wisdom approach, but I really have a
Speaker 1: problem with the way that we utilize this talents. We
Speaker 1: just didn't. I don't I don't count people's money, get
Speaker 1: all the money. You can, but I can't justify keeping tank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think it's okay to let him go? It would
Speaker 1: be a post June one cut, so it would take
Speaker 1: a little bit of time. Tanks making more money than
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald? Yeah, is he? And look at Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna have that anyway with the market value contract.
Speaker 1: Hear you, hear you, you're listening. I mean, but like,
Speaker 1: do we do we? Honestly? This is again, this is
Speaker 1: no shade. I say this to anybody. Do we consider
Speaker 1: him to be an elite pass rusher? Be honest? Game changing? No?
Speaker 1: Thank you? No? I mean, is he thank you? Fifteen
Speaker 1: sacks a game? No, it's it's it's energy, it's run stop,
Speaker 1: it's it's pressure. He gets pressure on guys. I think
Speaker 1: he sets the top. I said this many times, sets
Speaker 1: tone for the defense. Is he? Is he Aaron Donald?
Speaker 1: He's not Aeron. No, nobody's Aaron Donald. Nobody's Aaron Donald.
Speaker 1: I mean, but when you're my whole thing, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay somebody anything, I know that keep money keeps
Speaker 1: going up every year, right, So it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to look at that. And again, I don't count people's money.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna pay that, you need somebody who's
Speaker 1: gonna freaking you need to make a Parsons. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You need to make a Parsons. You
Speaker 1: need somebody who's like, yeah, he's a madman. You can't
Speaker 1: stop him. You can't stop him. Well, and you won
Speaker 1: without him as well, Like you played a lot of
Speaker 1: games without him this season and you still won without him.
Speaker 1: Be fair, there are a lot of quarterbacks that shouldn't
Speaker 1: make more money than Aaron Donald because of the kind
Speaker 1: of players. Yeah, because, yeah, absolutely, But now that you
Speaker 1: have Michael Parsons, why don't you just keep it real
Speaker 1: with yourself and just say who can play with Michael?
Speaker 1: At this point, you know, Michael, who do you want
Speaker 1: to play with? Let's start asking that question, because if
Speaker 1: the bazookas out there, we could build around him. Love
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs, He's a part of the future plans. But
Speaker 1: who's gonna be able to play with eleven? We can't
Speaker 1: lose Randy Gregory and Tank and think that signing Darren
Speaker 1: so I'm strong or bringing Terrell Bashim back, it's gonna
Speaker 1: make our defense. Bashim's under contract regardless, But That's where
Speaker 1: it gets complicated, because then what do you do with Ray? Like, yep,
Speaker 1: can you I mean, you don't want to pay Tank
Speaker 1: that you turn around and pay Randy X amount of dollars.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you want to franchise him at No. Twenty
Speaker 1: millionpe you don't have You don't have twenty You don't
Speaker 1: have that at all. I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: to franchise Dalton Scholtz at eleven you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about that last week, but don't have that either. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing with DeMarcus is, I mean, name what were
Speaker 1: the biggest wins of the season this year for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: What were the biggest wins if you had the name
Speaker 1: your top three favorite wins? Rob New England, Minnesota, m Chargers,
Speaker 1: maybe Chargers, maybe Charger Chargers. How many of those games
Speaker 1: was DeMarcus Lawrence apart of maybe one of three? He
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't on the field for any of those games.
Speaker 1: Chargers game. He was hurt. He got that was the
Speaker 1: week before that is when he got hurt. That's why
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons had to play the defensive end position. That
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. He did. He added something to
Speaker 1: the group, though when he came back, he definitely a
Speaker 1: question about it, like they still one without him. Though,
Speaker 1: I mean and say, that's the thing right now is
Speaker 1: you're having to make decisions on this cap situation of
Speaker 1: limiting the damage is ultimately what the Cowboys off season
Speaker 1: is right now. It's limiting the damage. You want to
Speaker 1: keep as much talent as possible with as little money
Speaker 1: as possible, and one of the ways that you might
Speaker 1: have to do that is by getting rid of the markets.
Speaker 1: And again, this is why these are tough decisions. When
Speaker 1: you let somebody pay cut. If you go and ask
Speaker 1: him for not gonna happen, He's gonna take one anyways,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna happen. But you have to let
Speaker 1: guys go that are impact guys for you, and to
Speaker 1: be impact guys, it just means that you're you. When
Speaker 1: you're not present, the team misses you, they miss your presence.
Speaker 1: That's an impact guy. If I'm if I'm not suited up,
Speaker 1: the team, they're gonna go on. They might even win
Speaker 1: the game. But guess what there is that what I
Speaker 1: bring to the team they were missing that day, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that d law is
Speaker 1: an impact player. He's had that identity, he's had the idea.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an elite player. There's two different conversations.
Speaker 1: That's not to say he has impacts. He has a president.
Speaker 1: He's physical, it makes motor, all those things. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: miss him when he's not there. He's gonna hustle, he's
Speaker 1: gonna do all those things. Pressure quarterback. But how many
Speaker 1: guys can you get on your roster with that same
Speaker 1: number that can do what he does? No, That's why
Speaker 1: that's why this is a legitimate conversation. What do you do? Okay?
Speaker 1: He has to match production and it hasn't for a
Speaker 1: long time. Even when he finally got the contract, we
Speaker 1: were talking about it last offseason. He was in that
Speaker 1: conversation of guys who didn't live up to their contract
Speaker 1: last offseason. And now that it's even they're more extended.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why it's a conversation that needs
Speaker 1: to be had. The one thing that I loved about
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Cowboys defense is their ability to
Speaker 1: put pressure on the quarterback and create those turnovers. You
Speaker 1: got that because of the defensive linemen and scheme and
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Right when you moved Michael Parsons to the edge,
Speaker 1: it created the kind of pressure where quarterbacks were getting
Speaker 1: off the ball early. So what does that say your defense?
Speaker 1: Your front line is making your linebackers better and sequence
Speaker 1: making your back half better. So let's get better up front.
Speaker 1: If Tank isn't going to be a part of that,
Speaker 1: if we could get two guys by releasing one guy,
Speaker 1: then I'm all for that. And that's probably gonna come
Speaker 1: also from the draft. But that's really guesswork. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The free agent portion of it is going
Speaker 1: to be so much more important, and getting those guys
Speaker 1: that's been the model of consistency. It's some guy that
Speaker 1: we just wish a hope works out. You felt pretty
Speaker 1: good about the draft the last couple of years. I mean,
Speaker 1: you feel really good about your first round pick in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. You feel very good about your twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one first round pick. You've drafted well, Draybon Diggs was
Speaker 1: a second round pick, and look at him, he leads
Speaker 1: The NFL scouting department is killing it. They're killing or
Speaker 1: at least the college scouting department. I mean, that's so
Speaker 1: much from the pro scouting department side, but you feel
Speaker 1: good about your draft and you got to figure it
Speaker 1: out there at the same time. So with all that
Speaker 1: being said, I do want to answer a couple of
Speaker 1: questions from the fans on the fifties, Antoine Simms asked,
Speaker 1: And this goes back to the original segment. He said
Speaker 1: from Isaiah's statement, let's take from the first part of
Speaker 1: the season and Joe Burrow from the last part of
Speaker 1: the season. Who do you guys have going with the
Speaker 1: team if you were to place them in Dallas at
Speaker 1: that point moving forward? This is just a fun hypothetical.
Speaker 1: First half of the season, Dak, last half of the season,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Who's who would be better to lead that
Speaker 1: team moving forward? Because originally in the first segment you're
Speaker 1: thinking Joe, right, Yeah, I think first half Dak is
Speaker 1: better in my opinion as a quarterback on a rookie deal.
Speaker 1: On a rookie deal, No, I would. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would say to me, Dak was playing as well as
Speaker 1: anybody in the league ye first half, and that's why
Speaker 1: I think I don't. And he's not using the calf's
Speaker 1: train his excuse, So I'm not either down the stretch,
Speaker 1: different production, different different offense we're talking about, we're talking
Speaker 1: first half. I'm going with Joe. Yeah, and the reason,
Speaker 1: the reason why, and I've said this in gazillion times,
Speaker 1: I think Dak Dak's success is predicated off of the
Speaker 1: ability to run the ball. I don't think Dak's a
Speaker 1: drop back and just throw it at you quarterback. I
Speaker 1: don't sure. That's not such a big part of this
Speaker 1: offense all the way up until his first running game.
Speaker 1: It means your point run game. They have to fix it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to. In the first part of the season,
Speaker 1: run game was a money and that's why the play
Speaker 1: action became a thing, and Dak would destroy you. If
Speaker 1: he can run play action, he will pick you apart. However,
Speaker 1: when there's no play action, it's not the same DAC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not the same day. And I think you can't
Speaker 1: say that about Joe. That's just I mean, I just
Speaker 1: feel like that statement isn't like an AHA statement because
Speaker 1: you take most of the quarterbacks in the league, if
Speaker 1: they have a running game, that makes them substantially better.
Speaker 1: The elite company, the elite company that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: And that's why I think that's the conversation correct goes
Speaker 1: to that because these guys don't necessarily need that. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow was in the Tennessee game, I think a historically
Speaker 1: amount of times he was sacked, no running game, no nothing,
Speaker 1: and he still was able to pull it off. But
Speaker 1: he needed some help from the other quarterback as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many things that happened in
Speaker 1: the course of a football game where you say, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy would be more equipped than the other guy.
Speaker 1: But Helen, you gave guys Ezekiel Elliott twenty sixteen, Zeke
Speaker 1: ain't a lot of I mean, come on, man, Joe
Speaker 1: with that. But I think about guys like Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I think about you know, like these are guys that
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if they have a run game or not,
Speaker 1: Like they'll line up and just pick you apart. So
Speaker 1: there are two of those guys, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I think about Josh Allen, like Jay, he will
Speaker 1: pick you apart and guess what if it's not open,
Speaker 1: guess what he's doing. He's taking off. Yeah, he's taking off.
Speaker 1: Is a special case. How many times were gonna say that?
Speaker 1: Though it's thirty two there's thirty two quarterbacks in this league.
Speaker 1: You right, in the world. We're talking about the world, right,
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be the thirty two best in the world.
Speaker 1: All of them are supposed to be special cases. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you want dad to be a special case. And
Speaker 1: you know they all not though you know they all
Speaker 1: I know that. All right, let's take our second break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna build the We're gonna
Speaker 1: fix this team the only way we know how. And
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Speaker 1: get your asselers. I know, I know the off season,
Speaker 1: get time. I got time, well time for the second time. Ron, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. We're about ready to Rob getting like a
Speaker 1: custom super custom pair made and he's just keeping it
Speaker 1: on the love a dog on Batman just got a
Speaker 1: new I don't know, some kind of new vehicle about
Speaker 1: to come out, speakers in the back like next week,
Speaker 1: ye fourth right, yeah, yeah, a big exhibition down. I'm
Speaker 1: not excited about it. I'm not excited about it, right, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't ban then Christian Bail. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's tough. I actually go Bill, Yeah, probably Bill.
Speaker 1: I don't like Ben as it. No, you're not a
Speaker 1: big Robert Pattinson guy. I haven't seen it yet. That's true.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. He doesn't feel like a boss man.
Speaker 1: You gotta give him a shot. I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: a shot. I'm gonna watch it. It just doesn't from
Speaker 1: the previews. The previews didn't get me like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go see this. It's hard to mess up either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to mess up Bruce Wayne. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a billionaires. But every other Batman, every other Batman preview
Speaker 1: had you ready to go bust down the dog on doors.
Speaker 1: This one didn't have that vibe, which means maybe it'll
Speaker 1: be a hope. I am surprised. The ones in the
Speaker 1: mid nineties were bad. Danny Clooney was Batman and it
Speaker 1: was just like a cartoon. I wasn't watching it was
Speaker 1: the other one. Val Kilmer was Batman. Those I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm killing my childhood right now. Eighty nine Batman with
Speaker 1: Keaton and Nicholson. Kyle was like minus twelve then Michael,
Speaker 1: that was the Batman, Thank you Batman? Right, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was original. I had to have that set when
Speaker 1: it came out. I had Did you have the automatic rewinder?
Speaker 1: Don't you don't have automatic reader? You know, you push
Speaker 1: the button in the pops up, you slide in and
Speaker 1: you put it back down. It was just like a car.
Speaker 1: Yeah you No, I didn't have. That was a good stuff.
Speaker 1: I didn't have it. I know, I knew somebody who
Speaker 1: had it. It blew my muffing cap when I was
Speaker 1: that I saw I was like, what is that. They're like,
Speaker 1: we didn't see one of these vahs. Find you on?
Speaker 1: Kyle didn't even know what a DVD. You guys probably
Speaker 1: got player. That DVD player was like my childhood. I
Speaker 1: was at the very ti Yeah. I was at the
Speaker 1: very tail end of the VHS era I had. I
Speaker 1: had a VHS player in my bedroom as a child.
Speaker 1: Have you ever manually rewound a cassette? No? I was
Speaker 1: not a cassette. Did you ever go to Blockbuster? Once?
Speaker 1: One time? There was one on Hwitt Drive in Waco
Speaker 1: that I went to. It's now an auto zone and
Speaker 1: I went I went there one one once or twice.
Speaker 1: You were I like, yeah, I think I like ordered
Speaker 1: veggie tails or something that probably was. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like veggie tails or like Land before time, one of
Speaker 1: those two. You get a blockbuster, get a laser disc. No,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what a laser disc is, honestly,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's it. Uh, that's that's that's it. That
Speaker 1: Batman's now all right. I want to I want you
Speaker 1: to give me my wish lists. What should beby looking
Speaker 1: for for Cowboys draft needs? Position wise? What do you
Speaker 1: want to come out of the draft of And I'm
Speaker 1: talking high quality first second round guys. If you're if
Speaker 1: you're going into Day three, so I'll even throw the
Speaker 1: third round in there. If you're going into day three
Speaker 1: without this position, you're putting your fist on the table.
Speaker 1: Dang it. We didn't get the job done the right way.
Speaker 1: What are those position groups for the Cowboys? Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say offensive linemen into interior, Yeah, anterior um need
Speaker 1: at least one right exactly. Okay, I'm gonna go linebacker. Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: can't go linebacker. And I'm also gonna say not safe
Speaker 1: I'm going to corner corner Connery play with Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: Treybon Diggs. I need another corner. Lewis Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hick my train. I agree all the all three of
Speaker 1: those about wide receiver. Nobody said wide receiver. Yet you
Speaker 1: guys send me for Hoko the whole blood like okay
Speaker 1: to Beck almost see that he picked up the notebook Bible.
Speaker 1: Lets you please tell the viewers at home that you
Speaker 1: were joking. I was not joking. They invest it, he's
Speaker 1: round pick. I mean he's not an investment. Tell me
Speaker 1: when you get to April and he's getting paid next year.
Speaker 1: Where's Amari? Where said? Where's Gallup? I mean you think
Speaker 1: you think they held onto him all season long, not
Speaker 1: putting them out there one time? Did not play him
Speaker 1: this year. Sometimes you just don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Sometimes you just don't want to
Speaker 1: be It happens more than you think. Where's Reggie Robinson?
Speaker 1: Who exactly I are? Yeah, I'm just saying it's a phantomise.
Speaker 1: They try to change his position. They did, and then
Speaker 1: he didn't play on either position, so that the north
Speaker 1: round pick and also tight end. Let me throw that
Speaker 1: in there tight end. Okay, so now you've put four
Speaker 1: must have positions in the first three rounds, we only
Speaker 1: have three picks. Damn it. That means we're trading back
Speaker 1: up to go get somebody. Rob, who are your positions?
Speaker 1: Offensive line? Interior, offensive line? Give me a tackle too,
Speaker 1: you can make that one and two for me. I'm
Speaker 1: with heck on linebacker. I mean, yeah, yeah, that's but
Speaker 1: like we just we just talked about receiver and defensive
Speaker 1: ents kind of the same way. It's like, tell me
Speaker 1: who's coming back yea by late April? Yep. If you're
Speaker 1: they're not, then all of a sudden, your your draft
Speaker 1: needs changed dramatically. What what receivers do you guys think
Speaker 1: they are coming back? Honestly, with all the releases, trades, whatever,
Speaker 1: coming back, it's a purely impossible question to answer. I
Speaker 1: would say it's fifty fifty and I said this the
Speaker 1: other day. I think it's fifty fifty of mars hereft.
Speaker 1: That's I don't know, that's the thing. It's say fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: This is I mean, it's hard to talk about a
Speaker 1: player that you have under contract that should be a
Speaker 1: dog in your offense, that isn't why your offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Come on, you don't have to lead me into it.
Speaker 1: It's not the player. It's not the players not the player,
Speaker 1: It absolutely isn't. But we're not using him, and that
Speaker 1: money's going to waste. And if we're whatever scheme he's
Speaker 1: trying to put together, whatever he's doing, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the scapegoat he is right now. For the money. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because of a contract. Yeah that's terrible. You got
Speaker 1: a dog on your team and you're unwinning, unleash them. Terrible,
Speaker 1: So you get so you so you take him to
Speaker 1: the pound, so you get in the shot. The question
Speaker 1: that was asked was who's gonna be back? And that's
Speaker 1: that's what happened, right. I don't know turn it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising the way you're gonna bring Turner back.
Speaker 1: Brown's back, for sure. I mean, there's no way to
Speaker 1: get with it. I think Centric comes back to a
Speaker 1: certain So everybody's coming back, but Amory, that's what y'all saying. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't say everybody. That's our gallup. I don't say.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If Set's back. Seed might get a
Speaker 1: deal where you're like mask yeah, maybe. And if he does, yeah,
Speaker 1: good for him. I think if a Mari does not
Speaker 1: come back, I think both Gallup and set are back
Speaker 1: in some shape fashion, and for him, I think they're
Speaker 1: both back. I bet you Dallas drafts a receiver, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet you they do. Watch. I think they will.
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably do it in the second round,
Speaker 1: maybe third. I'm telling you, I'm guaranteed there was a
Speaker 1: high opportunity for them to draft a player in the
Speaker 1: second order, the third round. Yeah, and you know what,
Speaker 1: obviously we're gonna get into do we get to talk
Speaker 1: free agent? We had to talk with some free agent
Speaker 1: talk here. We will probably will next week. But it's
Speaker 1: hard to talk free agency when you have twenty one
Speaker 1: million dollars over the catagory. But what will be your
Speaker 1: reaction if the Cowboys use a second round pick on
Speaker 1: a receiver? I'm hey, man, I'm gonna turn over. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna need an get ready? Yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to believe, but you know, we
Speaker 1: probably if some glimmer in his eye over there, I
Speaker 1: don't know what twinkle it is. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. You know something get ready. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that'd be upsetting, but you know, stranger
Speaker 1: things have happened. But that's the thing is is it
Speaker 1: really that upsetting? Because if Amari Cooper is not back,
Speaker 1: where is wide receiver in terms of your needs? Isn't
Speaker 1: that why you draft the CD? That's my yes, okay?
Speaker 1: Is it's CD and semi Phihoko looking at each other
Speaker 1: in a wider So you're saying Gallup doesn't come back,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If none of those guys come back,
Speaker 1: where's your wide receiver room? Well, you would sign somebody,
Speaker 1: you would, I mean you would know what that's looking
Speaker 1: like before the draft, right? No? Yeah, necessarily they well
Speaker 1: they they always try to cover themselves to some degree.
Speaker 1: Now would it be the receiving cores that we saw
Speaker 1: last year? No, hell no, we no clothes. But but
Speaker 1: but name there are teams that do more with less,
Speaker 1: not more with really, but but but can function with
Speaker 1: elite wide receiving corps. Now maybe I'm talking about Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: but in his New England days, Okay, he said name
Speaker 1: name wide receivers. Yeah, it drafted wide receivers, right, yeah? Uh.
Speaker 1: George Pickens Georgia, Justin Ross Clemson, maybe Alec Pierce Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: Jalen Tilbert's Southern Alabama or South Alabama. Okay, Yeah, those
Speaker 1: are four guys that are right around that second third
Speaker 1: round range that could potentially be there. Man, And is
Speaker 1: this gonna be like a best player available kind of
Speaker 1: situation when you get to your pick. I think that
Speaker 1: we just can't turn this. So that's going to be
Speaker 1: the philosophy in twenty twenty two draft room. I think
Speaker 1: at twenty four, yes, honestly, yeah, first three rounds, I
Speaker 1: would say yes, for sure. I think then you'd fill
Speaker 1: in the needs after that. But it's been that way
Speaker 1: the last two years, and you feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb was drafted. Yeah, Lamb guy drafted, and that
Speaker 1: wasn't the number one need. Wide receiver was not a
Speaker 1: need in that spot. But everybody was pumped about CD Lamp.
Speaker 1: Is there a CD in his draft? Uh? No, nobody
Speaker 1: had have above CD. But there's good wide receivers. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying draft him at twenty four. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're going to see a first round receiver. I can't
Speaker 1: do that, don't. I don't think there's a first round
Speaker 1: receiver that you would draft as the Cowboys at twenty
Speaker 1: four because of your needs moving forward. Second round, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a good possibility that they could maybe
Speaker 1: draft somebody as a pass catcher, make a lot of
Speaker 1: people angry. I wouldn't be surprised if it's offensive line,
Speaker 1: defensive line in round one, then you would go receiver,
Speaker 1: linebacker round two, and then corner, And these are just
Speaker 1: the options that are available, not multiple picks in that draft.
Speaker 1: And then I would say corner, tight end maybe rounds
Speaker 1: three and four, something like that. That's probably the way
Speaker 1: it's shaping up with my thought process. Where did you
Speaker 1: have offensive line first first round? Yeah? First round because yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't wait on that there. Although, look, man, you
Speaker 1: move LC to left guard if he wants to do that, uh,
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele at right tackle? Then maybe you saw things
Speaker 1: for a year. Yeah, so we try to save things.
Speaker 1: We're on to moving LC to left guard. Now, I
Speaker 1: would I think it was I think it's something they
Speaker 1: definitely need to look at. Yep, because you don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of resources to do anything else, so shuffle
Speaker 1: it around. I thought I thought they should have taken
Speaker 1: a harder look at it during the season is easier.
Speaker 1: In this draft, the draft a right tackle or a
Speaker 1: left garden probably tackle Ard. It would be tackle the
Speaker 1: guy from Texas and him. They might not be there.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. There's a huge drop off of guys
Speaker 1: interior wise. There's Linderbaum Tyler Linderbaumb out of Iowa and
Speaker 1: then Kenyon Green out of out of Texas, A and m.
Speaker 1: Those are your two interior guys that you hope falls
Speaker 1: to twenty four. Both of those guys are most likely
Speaker 1: to be gone by the time twenty four gets to you.
Speaker 1: After that, there's a significant drop off between those guys
Speaker 1: that where you would probably rather take a linebacker and
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Yeah, Nakobe Dean, he may not be there either,
Speaker 1: come on, but there's there's possibilities there as opposed to
Speaker 1: I guess drafting random people from other positions like we've
Speaker 1: seen happened in the past draft. Oh his first round
Speaker 1: draft pickle, I think your knees would get knocked at
Speaker 1: the combine pretty much combine? Are you yes? Oh? Gosh
Speaker 1: speak that got resolved real quick in a hurry. It did.
Speaker 1: We could have talked about that today, but darn well,
Speaker 1: you guys will get to talk plenty of combine. Next week.
Speaker 1: I will be in Indianapolis, so you guys will get
Speaker 1: a phone call from me. It's next week. Gee. I
Speaker 1: leave on Sunday. I will be back two weeks from now.
Speaker 1: But I'll be on the on the show next week.
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