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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. I'm John Murphy alongside my

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Speaker 1: partner Steve Tasker. I told you last week. The lost

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Speaker 1: last week was encouraging. This one not so much. A

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Speaker 1: It was. It was very tough, Steve. It's here, just

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Speaker 1: make the season of success for me would to see

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen get in there and get as much playing

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Speaker 1: time as possible and have him just start to see

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Speaker 1: some development within this offense. It just sucks to see

429
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Speaker 1: some consistency, and really, you know, whatever happens to be

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Speaker 1: a throwaway year, it wouldn't be if he comes in

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Speaker 1: and learns to make the big jump into into year

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Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, that Nathan, hang out of the line.

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you because you make an

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Speaker 1: interesting point and it came up Chris Brown and I

435
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Speaker 1: do the Monday Morning Breakdown show on social media, attending

436
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Speaker 1: AM on Monday's and it came up in that show

437
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: about somebody tweeted in or something. Josh Allen hopefully learned

438
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Speaker 1: a lot from watching yesterday, And I got thinking, what

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Speaker 1: what do you've learned? What do you think, Nathan? What

440
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Speaker 1: would Josh And I'll ask you this too, what would

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen have taken out of that game yesterday on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines notebook in his hand, listening to the plays

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Speaker 1: going in. Actually it's probably a more perfect question for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. But what do you think, Nathan? What would

445
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Speaker 1: you hope that Josh Allen got out of watching that yesterday?

446
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Speaker 1: Just like that one play from Derek Anderson to Calvin

447
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: Benjamin sums it up. You know where Calvin Benjman turned around,

448
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 1: the ball hit him perfectly at the ways, like he

449
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Speaker 1: wasn't even expecting the ball there that quick, and it

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Speaker 1: was great to see he was decisive. He was a

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Speaker 1: game manager. Would I love to see that. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to see Josh Allen do more as I saw Derrick

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Speaker 1: Anderson do. Is have some direction at the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage like you see Peyton Manning doing some of these

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Speaker 1: other ones. You know, he's just really good at getting

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Speaker 1: up to the line of scrimmage. You can tell he's

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Speaker 1: in charge. He's directing traffic. And when the ball comes

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Speaker 1: out he didn't throw a great spiral and through some

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Speaker 1: really walk he passes. Yeah, straight player. It was pretty

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Speaker 1: accurate and it was very decisive. Where you see Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen looking like he's thinking a little too hard about

462
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Speaker 1: where to go. Yeah, I think he might. I think

463
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Speaker 1: he might learn more when he goes back and studies

464
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Speaker 1: the film because this is he's running. Finally got a

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Speaker 1: guy who's watching on film, who's running his offense. He

466
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Speaker 1: can see this is the play that was called this

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Speaker 1: is what he saw pre snap, this is what he

468
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Speaker 1: saw after the snap, and this is where he threw

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Speaker 1: the ball, and whether it was good or bad or

470
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Speaker 1: almost good or kind of bad or the wrong throw

471
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Speaker 1: or whatever, he can learn from that. And that's you're right.

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Speaker 1: The level of knowledge that he has about what's actually

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Speaker 1: on the on the screen is going to help him.

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Speaker 1: Plus seated having it happened on game day and watching

475
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Speaker 1: it live as well is going to add to that.

476
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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot he that Josh Allen can

477
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Speaker 1: take away from this. But I'm kind of with you too,

478
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Speaker 1: Nathan I. As soon as he's ready, he's back in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather see him play and learn than just standing

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Speaker 1: on the sideline and learn. But yeah, maybe the thing

481
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Speaker 1: that I'd look for is Josh Allen to see it

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Speaker 1: and say, well, that's the ifity getting the ball out

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Speaker 1: on tight you know what I mean, that's a benefit

484
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Speaker 1: and that's why I can't hold out. And also see

485
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Speaker 1: him out right and also seeing his guy saying, oh

486
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Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna look like. Yeah, I can let

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Speaker 1: it go when it looks like that, you know, because

488
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Speaker 1: a lot of times a young quarterback, you know, coming

489
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Speaker 1: out of Wyoming or even Alabama or what you name it.

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Speaker 1: That guy's not open. You know, the windows smaller, if

491
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Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna look like, and he throws it

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Speaker 1: on time, Well, that guy's not even out of his

493
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Speaker 1: break and he's not open. So I'm gonna throw it anyway.

494
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Speaker 1: And that's what you got to see a guy. Do

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Speaker 1: see him have success doing it? You know he completed

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Speaker 1: twenty of thirty one. Yeah, I can learn something from that.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a call here from al in Clarence. Go ahead,

498
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Speaker 1: all you're on the air with us. Hey, guys, it's

499
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Speaker 1: not so much that yesterday's losses got me upset. I

500
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Speaker 1: was totally anticipating that, Um, I would just leave the

501
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: Vegas lines. You know, they're usually those guys are somewhere,

502
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: usually have a pretty good idea of what going out with.

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Speaker 1: What was the line yesterday? I didn't even know what

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Speaker 1: was it. It was close to ten by the time

505
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Speaker 1: it went off. Huh, I didn't. Okay, But organizationally, I'm

506
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Speaker 1: more upset that these guys have just whipped on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position and that takes away your hope, Like I

508
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Speaker 1: would love to be out there going next Monday. Night

509
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Speaker 1: and be excited. But I'm going out to watch Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Is Josh Allen a whiff? Is that what you're saying now?

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Speaker 1: Is Josh Allen wif? I'm too early to tell, but

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Speaker 1: a sce I've seen. I would have been more comfortable

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Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold. I mean I didn't get a chance

514
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Speaker 1: at him. Right again, that Sam Darnold. They could have

515
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Speaker 1: moved up where the Jets moved up. I thought they

516
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Speaker 1: could have knew they could not. Oh yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they have whipped terribly on the quarterback position. I don't agree,

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Speaker 1: But go ahead, John, Why don't you agree? Because I

519
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Speaker 1: think Josh Allen is a pretty good prospect. I think

520
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be Okay, did any other team pulled quarterback

521
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Speaker 1: off the street to start this week? No? We did. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you're not talking about Josh Allen now. No, I'm talking

523
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Speaker 1: about um the Carolina quarterback we're starting for us yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did any other organization have to do that?

525
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Speaker 1: Pulled quarterback retirement? Well? How many quarterbacks are sidelined with

526
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Speaker 1: injury in the league. I just think organizationally, they've done

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Speaker 1: a terrible job with the quarter Well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what they I'll tell you it hasn't gone well for him,

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Speaker 1: but you know, there's no question about it. And they've

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Speaker 1: had some guys whom you can say what you want

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Speaker 1: about how it turned out. But during the during the

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Speaker 1: run up to getting to this point, they didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything outlandishly crazy with their quarterbacks. I would have been

534
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Speaker 1: more comfortable than training Don't tell me you're comfortable. They

535
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Speaker 1: didn't do anything crazy. They didn't do anything stupid. They

536
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Speaker 1: made they let some guys come in play. They signed

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Speaker 1: a veteran, a five year veteran from Cincinnati. They had

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Speaker 1: a guy they drafted last year in the fifth round.

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Speaker 1: They let these guys have it out, and they trade

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Speaker 1: it up and used a lot of assets to get

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Speaker 1: one of the top prospects in the draft to get

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They get. Let these guys have it out

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Speaker 1: during training camp. They gave him all the rips they

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Speaker 1: could possibly give him. They let a guy earn his stripes,

545
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Speaker 1: earn the spot, gave him an o coortunity to do it,

546
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Speaker 1: and he flamed out. And now they got they put

547
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Speaker 1: their young guy in and he got nicked. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're you can say what you want about like they

549
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Speaker 1: should have had a veteran quarterback, Well, what happens to

550
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Speaker 1: that veteran quarterback comes in and steps off the curb

551
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Speaker 1: and breaks his ankle, And then you're gonna tell them

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Speaker 1: they messed up the quarterback position. Then hell, question for you,

553
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: you would have been better? I mean, what would McCarron

554
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: had done yesterday that they did not get from Derek Anderson?

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Speaker 1: Do you think I just think the cohesion of I

556
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: mean him being here for five months as opposed to

557
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Speaker 1: ten days. Maybe yeah, and I get that, But listen,

558
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Speaker 1: there's no question it's a mess. But you're telling me

559
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: the way they got here was crazy and stupid and outlandish.

560
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: They made crazy decisions. It's not true. They made calculated decisions.

561
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: They got guys, they they signed players. They were they

562
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: were beating the bushes for players. There's an absolutely no question.

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Speaker 1: They made a lot of phone calls to a lot

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Speaker 1: of places. They wasn't like they were saying, hey, listen,

565
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Speaker 1: let's go out and find the worst quarterbacks we can

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Speaker 1: possibly find. So we have to play Josh Allen the

567
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: second half of our opening game. That's crazy talk. No question,

568
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: it did not turn out well for the Bills at

569
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: quarterback no question, but it's not because they were doing silly,

570
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: irresponsible stuff with a position. They had some things go

571
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Speaker 1: bad for him, and most notably, the guy who played

572
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: so well for him and earned their respect and their

573
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: trust to get in there on opening day flamed out.

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Speaker 1: And you can say, well they should have known, Well,

575
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: you can't know. They let the guy earn it. They

576
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: let him do it on the field the best way

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Speaker 1: they could. So yeah, it's a mess right now, absolutely

578
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: no question about it. But you can't blame them for

579
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Speaker 1: making stupid and irresponsible decisions because they didn't. They went

580
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Speaker 1: about him methodically, logically. They didn't. I mean you can say, hey,

581
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: they should have brought in different quarterbacks. Well, yeah, you

582
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: can say that when everybody's whenever, nobody's playing well right

583
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: at the moment. Yeah, you can pick any quarterback you

584
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: want that might have been playing better. But at the time,

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Speaker 1: before they get to this point, you know, you can't

586
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Speaker 1: go back in time. And these guys they did this methodically, logically,

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00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact we've talked about it

588
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: on the show. There was for months and weeks they

589
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: were talking to every available quarterback out there. So don't

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00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: even you know, so don't think that they were irresponsible

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00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: or didn't know what they were doing. They've it's a

592
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: mess now, but it's not because of the the steps

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00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: they took to get the quarterbacks on their roster they have.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday's loss was troubling, no question about that. What's the

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Speaker 1: most troubling part of yesterday's loss? Let's hear from you

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Speaker 1: eight three five thirty at three, eight eight five. Some

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Speaker 1: of the callers might appreciate that, Yeah, one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty or tweeting in it

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Life. The most troubling aspect of yesterday's lost

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown coming up at one, Fred Jackson to two,

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Speaker 1: gets away from him, bolt under the ends on the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. That was the flurry Steve a field goal

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Speaker 1: and a safety. Five points boom, just like that. But

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Speaker 1: that's all they had. That's all they had. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as I looked at it again today, snap wasn't that high.

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Speaker 1: I'm told after people have looked at it that the

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Speaker 1: snap was early, that Luck may not have anticipated the

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Speaker 1: snap coming there. It got through just over the top

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Speaker 1: of his hands, kind of. Lorenzo Alexander I talked to

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Speaker 1: him after the game. He said, he said, if I

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Speaker 1: had to do it over again, and this is classic.

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00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Lorenzo said, if I had to do it over again,

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Speaker 1: I would have pushed Luck out of the way and

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Speaker 1: then jumped on the ball. Because Luck jumped and kind

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Speaker 1: of shoved Lorenzo a little bit and he just couldn't

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Speaker 1: cover up in the end zone, so it went for

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Speaker 1: a safety instead of a buffalo touchdown. That would have

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Speaker 1: been a big difference. And Lorenzo acknowledge that said, I

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Speaker 1: should have pushed him first, right, Yeah, that's what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get it's yeah, who knows that the balls

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Speaker 1: got the balls got points on It bounces all kinds away.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's hard. It's impossible to anticipate. But it

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Speaker 1: could have been set at thirty seven to five. It

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Speaker 1: could have been thirty seven to ten, which wouldn't look

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Speaker 1: much better, would it. All right, we're talking about that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're different when your voice doesn't work, I am. I

641
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: think you might be a better co host who as

642
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm quieter, a little bit quieter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

643
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: met people are bi. It's fun too, because every time

644
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Speaker 1: something like this comes up, where you know, you get

645
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Speaker 1: on and I, you know, I go on a rant

646
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: or something like my man go crazy. It's it's always

647
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun to look at, you know, because

648
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Speaker 1: people don't click up eight exactly. Yeah, Hey, we're talking

649
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: about the game. What do you think what was the

650
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Speaker 1: most depressing part of yesterday's game. What's the most distressing part?

651
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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight o three fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Allan

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Speaker 1: on the line from Buffalo. Hello, Allan, Hello, how are

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00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: you doing? Okay? Hey, Steve good Nuts made it for

655
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: the show. But I have to agree a little bit

656
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Speaker 1: with what that last caller was talking about with the organization. Uh,

657
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: not to the fact that they've made wrong decisions on

658
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: getting their quarterback, but they've made wrong decisions on when

659
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: to put them in and when to use them. How

660
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Speaker 1: would you have done it different? Alan? Go ahead? Well

661
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: myself personally, you took you had you had a great

662
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: preseason with three quarterbacks. Um, great competition. I'm all for

663
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. He's a big boy, he's got a gun

664
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Speaker 1: slinger's he stands in the pocket, he keeps his chin up,

665
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: he looks around. He needs another year and he needs

666
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: a front line to protect him. Um. Peterman won it out,

667
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: and I disagree with the fact that the organization has

668
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: given him a chance. They gave him one a half

669
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: a half a game in the first game, and they

670
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: took him out right away. Yeah you mean you mean

671
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: a J McCarn wonted out. No, no, no, Peterman won

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Speaker 1: it out and he started won it out, wanted yeah, okay,

673
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Speaker 1: won it won the job, yeah, okay, in competition out yeah,

674
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I got you. He was given a half a half

675
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: a game and he was he was taken out right away.

676
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: He has never been given that chance. For two to

677
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: three games in a row. He's shown glimpses of of that.

678
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: You know what what Buffalo needs. But now and when,

679
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: let me just slow you down. He's shown some glimpses.

680
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Speaker 1: He's also shown an incredible propensity to throw it to

681
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Speaker 1: the other team. I mean, you can't live with turnovers

682
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: like that. You can't live with them, Bill said five yesterday.

683
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: They have no chance of winning. Why are they calling

684
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Speaker 1: the play that way? He's weak on the left side,

685
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: so he has to learn how to bate those defenders.

686
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: He has to be shown that. And right now, who

687
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Derek Anderson hasn't proven nothing to me in

688
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's a clipboard holder. Okay, he comes in

689
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: and he's done nothing to give that chance. After two

690
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: years coming off a golf course, Peterman should have went

691
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: back in for this game and lost that job. He

692
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Speaker 1: is the second string. Nobody said he was a superstar,

693
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Nobody said he's a Josh Allen. But I tell you

694
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: he's quick on that release. Just like your Taco with

695
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson, Peterman's got that release. He just needs to

696
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Speaker 1: be taught that little bit at that timing how to

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Speaker 1: debate those defenders. It's like that play last week with

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Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin. All Right, I just I hear what you're saying.

699
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Speaker 1: I just don't think you can live with those the interceptions. Well,

700
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Speaker 1: here's the thing too, and Allan I I talked about

701
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Speaker 1: and we were talking about this in the break and

702
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Speaker 1: I mentioned it last week. There seems to be this

703
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Speaker 1: sense that Nathan Peterman is some sort of veteran guy

704
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Speaker 1: as well. I mean he's a he's a rookie. I

705
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: mean he's he's almost as new as Josh Allen. He's

706
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Speaker 1: got you know, four more starts or whatever. I mean,

707
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Speaker 1: he's got Josh Allen almost at this point has as

708
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Speaker 1: much game time experience as nath Peterman does. Um So

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of has these different expectations of how Nate

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Speaker 1: Peterman should be playing. He's a first year player, he

711
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: hasn't started very much. He's been in the league for

712
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Speaker 1: a year. He's been in and out of the lineup,

713
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: no question, we've all seen that. And he's had some

714
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Speaker 1: good preseason work as well. But I think somehow we've

715
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Speaker 1: got this idea that Nate Peterman should somehow be better

716
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Speaker 1: than he is. He's a very very young quarterback, just

717
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen is. So if and you know how

718
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: we got this, this wrinkle in the whole works with

719
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen being out with an injury, I don't know

720
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Speaker 1: if you trade Josh Allen for another rookie, and I

721
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: and all I can say about Derek Anderson, nobody's saying

722
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Derry Anderson's light in the world on fire. And certainly

723
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Speaker 1: yesterday he played like to me, he played like Nate

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Speaker 1: Peterman did in the preseason. He was pretty consistent, not spectacular,

725
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Speaker 1: played okay, but he turned it over late when they

726
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Speaker 1: got down and they were trying to come back, and

727
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: all you know, the game was out of hand and

728
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Speaker 1: he started turning it over like Nate Peterman does when

729
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: the game's end doubt. So there's no question the quarterback spot.

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Speaker 1: Like I said in my last rant in the last segment,

731
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Speaker 1: it's a mess right now. But I think Derrick Anderson

732
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Speaker 1: is a steadying influence. He gave the team a chance

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Speaker 1: to move the football offensively, to play a little bit

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Speaker 1: more on schedule than they had been able to under

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Nate Peterman earlier early in the season.

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Speaker 1: So and I think, uh, Derek Anderson is going to

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Speaker 1: play better because the offense will come a little more

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Speaker 1: naturally to him, They'll get him more reps in it,

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00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: and they'll start to play better and better as the

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00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: season rolls on. But I think I'm with Murph. When

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's health he's back in See if you're with

742
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: me on this. Quarterback play was not the major issue yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It really wasn't. It was a defense that had fallen

744
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: down after carrying the team for so long that they

745
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: expected much more from that different was okay yesterday. It

746
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: wasn't great, it wasn't awful, but it wasn't the issue.

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00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't think in yesterday's game. Look, if Nathan Peterman

748
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: starts that game, is the outcome any different? I don't

749
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Speaker 1: think so. And based on what we've seen, it could

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Speaker 1: have been worse based on the way Nathan Peterman is.

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00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: The difference was the turnovers offensively. I mean they did

752
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: turn it over, but you know the fumble by Clay Awful, Yeah,

753
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: that wasn't that wasn't on. That wasn't on Anderson. I mean,

754
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the difference in what we expected yesterday

755
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: was the way the defense played, no question about it.

756
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Speaker 1: Take another phone call as we talk about the most

757
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: troubling aspect. There are several we're hearing about him today,

758
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: most troubling aspect of yesterday's loss. Here's Jim and Amherst. Hello, Jim,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hi guys, I love your show.

760
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: I've been listening for a long time. Thanks. Jim. Used

761
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: to go all the Bills games when Og Simpson played there.

762
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Speaker 1: You know, I realized, I think better receivers, I would

763
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: make a better quarterback. Don't just think he's got better receivers.

764
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Speaker 1: And I was looking. I just realized how some of

765
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: these sounds. Marquis Goodman with the forty nine ers, SEMy

766
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: Watkins with the Chief, Chris Hogan with the Patriots, and

767
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Robert Woods with the Rams. Do you believe that I

768
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: just realize that, Yeah, I believe that. I do think

769
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: you're onto something with the receivers. I don't. I know

770
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: they're not happy with the play of their current receivers.

771
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: I know, even when it comes. I mean they signed

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00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Cam Phillips off the practice squad last Friday for the

773
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: sole reason that he knows how to line up, knows

774
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: where to line up. I mean that's been an issue,

775
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: believe it or not, according to what Bill's coaches say.

776
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: And that's an issue. And yeah, I mean every one

777
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: of those guys you mentioned former Buffalo Bills all gone

778
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: for different reasons. Robert Woods a free agent, Marquis Goodwin

779
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: a free agent, Chris Hogan a free agent, that that

780
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: was their choice. They traded Sammy Watkins away. But yeah,

781
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: receivers are a problem. And Steve, with the trade deadline

782
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: a week from tomorrow, four pm, a week from tomorrow,

783
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm looking for action there. I think there could be

784
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: receivers being shipped out and receivers being shipped in in

785
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: the next eight days. Yeah, I would. I would not

786
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: be surprised now with you know, if the team's sitting

787
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: here at two and five, if they start to make

788
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: some moves either four yeah, even like they did last year.

789
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Either get some draft capital, some future picks for some

790
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: players they have now and start to posture or bringing

791
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: in a guy, you know, bringing a guy who's gonna

792
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: get plugged in pretty quickly. I think they're going both ways.

793
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: They might, they might, I think all that stuff's on

794
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: the table, I don't think. I think now. I think

795
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: they'll probably feel a little freer to start saying, Okay,

796
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna make some moves. All right. Hey, we're in

797
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: the locker room yesterday picking up sound talking to bills players.

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Speaker 1: for around the Locker Room. Lightbacker Lorenzo Alexander. I'm the

802
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: struggle for the Buffalo defense. At the end of the day,

803
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: we gotta figure out way to make plays. Went on first,

804
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: second down and get a team like that and third

805
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: and long, we're gonna give ourselves a chance. I didn't

806
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: create any turnovers today. I anytime we have like that

807
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: and been struggling, I mean, that's the type of result

808
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: we're going to get right now. That's kind of where

809
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: we're had as a team. Jerry Hughes did the defense

810
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: feel pressure after the Buffalo offense struggled for so many weeks.

811
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Speaker 1: It's a pressure business, to be honest. If we got

812
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: to go out and perform weekend and week no one

813
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: really cares how anybody feels coming up leading up to Sunday.

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00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: So I mean it's a pressure business. So I feel

815
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: like I've been under pressure my entire NFL career. I mean,

816
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: that's really not that big of a deal. We just

817
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: gotta play football. They got to show up on Sunday

818
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: and play Bills football. And today wasn't it. Quarter Back

819
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson. I need his performance against Indie. Coach talks about,

820
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, controlling the football, you know, not giving them points.

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00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: I gave them points before the half and then came

822
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: back back out in the second half turning over again.

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00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: They get seven points. Um, you know, I just gotta

824
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: be better with the ball, be a better awareness. Can't

825
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: turn the ball over four times and expect it win

826
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: a football game. The way it felt in it, you know,

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00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we and we gave ourselves some chances

828
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: early on and then really got in it. Had to

829
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: throw it situation. You know, they they're not jumping things.

830
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: They're just going to keep thinking. It really makes it

831
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: difficult to you know, keep moving the ball down the

832
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: field wide receivers A Jones and Anderson at quarterback, Derek

833
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: did a good job. I mean, probably the best that

834
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Speaker 1: he could. I'm sure that he would want to do better.

835
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to do better. Um, Like I was, like

836
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, it's just frustrating when things just

837
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: don't go your way, you know. And then Charles Clay,

838
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm his second quarter fumble, capable of doing some little

839
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: good things. I won't. We're all doing our job. Um,

840
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, in that situation, you know, they're counting

841
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: on me to make that play. I didn't. So it's

842
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: got to go back to work, man. I mean, there's

843
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: nothing I can do about it now. So all I

844
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: can to prevent it from happening and be there for

845
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Speaker 1: my team next West, Are you going around? The locker

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848
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Speaker 1: was a tough bills locker room, very very very quiet yesterday.

849
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Speaker 1: I think they took that loss pretty hard. Yeah, I

850
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: think that that was a loss that they didn't like

851
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: any of them. You just tell the body, the body language,

852
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: the tone of their voice when they speak, not so

853
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: much the thing that they say, because so many players

854
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: say the same thing. You know, I gotta be better

855
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Speaker 1: and we've got to play better, and it's about it.

856
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Speaker 1: You know that all the all the right things they said, Lorenzo, Charles,

857
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Speaker 1: clay h they all say the same things, and they

858
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Speaker 1: all say the right things, because that's kind of guys

859
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Speaker 1: they brought in. But you could tell by their body

860
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: lane which that that I think that this loss really

861
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Speaker 1: really hit him hard. Seven to five. Yeah, I think that.

862
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: I think that heard because they they thought, and I

863
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: think rightfully so, that their defense should have been better

864
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: than that. And I think that's surprised a lot of

865
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Speaker 1: guys on that team. That's a I think they walked

866
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Speaker 1: into that place, into Lucas Oil Stadium yesterday, I think,

867
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Speaker 1: and they were going to put on a good show

868
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: and give themselves a chance to win, and they couldn't

869
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: do it, and I think that really really shook them up.

870
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Bill sep scored seven touchdowns in seven games. Yeah, amazing.

871
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: I don't know why I brought that up. Just true,

872
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in a seven game We got more. I

873
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: want to hear from you. What do you think the

874
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: most disheartening part about yesterday's loss. Let's let's talk it

875
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: over a little group therapy here. John Murphy, Steve Tansker.

876
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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by a Collid of Health

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back.

878
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: It's One Bills Live from One Bills Drive. John Murphy,

879
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. On a nice day in Archerd Park, Chile,

880
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: not not really unseasonably cold, but nice, blue sky, sunshine.

881
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: I just took a peak outside, Steve, beautiful. I can

882
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: you get out of here about five o'clock today? You're

883
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: gonna like, what a beautiful day? Yes, sure, it's nice.

884
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: Steve is back. We're talking obviously about the Bills and

885
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts yesterday, and we'll continue that discussion. Chris

886
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Brown and one o'clock Fred Jackson to two. Steve just

887
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: got back this morning, red eye flight out west in

888
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: San Francisco or wherever it is. They play Santa Clara, California.

889
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: Watch the Rams and the forty nine ers, and watch

890
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: the Rams kind of dominate that game. Steve. Steve, of

891
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: course on the NFL on CBS. What'd you see either, Yeah,

892
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: from the sideline sounds presented by Bows Bows, the official

893
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: headphones of the Buffalo Bills, what I saw out in

894
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: San Francisco or Santa Clara. The Rams are for real

895
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: on both sides of the football and brings up one

896
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: question for me. And I've seen this. I said this

897
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: last year about the Chiefs when they started their season

898
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: six and oh, like they're doing this year. And also

899
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it about the Rams this year.

900
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: They're biggest challenge right now is to continue the high

901
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: level of play for another two months. That's a lot

902
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: of football to be played. And the Rams right now

903
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: they're a playoff team. They're playing as good as anybody

904
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: in the league. And it looks like they're on a

905
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: head on collision with the Kansas City Chiefs and the playoffs.

906
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: But the question is, for both of these clubs, it

907
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: is a long NFL season. We here in Buffalo know

908
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: that as well. But they've got to keep this level

909
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: up for another eight weeks to get to the playoffs

910
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: and then continue it into then to stay healthy enough

911
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: not to tail off and taper off. And you know,

912
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: because when they get into the tournament and it's a

913
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: one and done. They've got to have some stuff in

914
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the tank to get through it. And I've seen so

915
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Speaker 1: many teams start out, I mean years ago. You can

916
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: go down the list of teams that have steamrolled through

917
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: the regular season and then not been able to sustain

918
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Speaker 1: it once the playoffs begin, because the season is just

919
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: too long, the game is just too physical, and it

920
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: demands too much. It's going to be interesting to see

921
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: if these teams that are so hot in the first

922
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Speaker 1: half of the season can't sustain it through the playoffs.

923
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Speaker 1: Because we've seen teams like, for instance, the New York

924
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Speaker 1: Giants and the two Super Bowls they won with with

925
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning. They stunk in the regular season and they

926
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Speaker 1: got hot at the end of the year when it

927
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Speaker 1: was the most important and rode that wave into the

928
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Speaker 1: playoffs into the Super Bowl Championship. It's hard for a

929
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Speaker 1: team like the Rams and like the Chiefs to sustain

930
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Speaker 1: it for that long throughout the whole season. Too many

931
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: bad things can happen. It's a tough problem to have. Well,

932
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Speaker 1: you know those are my sideline sounds presented by Bows Bows,

933
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: the official headphones with the Buffalo Bills. Can you hear

934
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Speaker 1: the Rams and the Chiefs in the playoffs? I don't

935
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be there. I mean, there's just no

936
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Speaker 1: way around that. But I'm telling you, man, it's hard

937
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Speaker 1: to sustain that. Rams gotta be happy though, and what

938
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: they have seven sacks, four takeaways. They gotta be happy

939
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Speaker 1: that they'll just have to light up the opponents that

940
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: their defense can show up and play. Huh, listen, I

941
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. They are hitting on all si

942
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: unders and you gotta love it if you're the Rams

943
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Speaker 1: that you know you're sitting in that spot where they are.

944
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you it's a long season. It is

945
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: a long, long season. The Ted Gurley with three touchdowns amazing. Hey, um,

946
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Speaker 1: the Niners dropped to one in six. Right with the loss?

947
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: Is are they in trouble? I mean, obviously their quarterback's gone,

948
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: But it was Bethard really that bad yesterday? Dude, you

949
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: look that bad? The Rams are really good. The Rams

950
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: are very very good. They can get pressure with just

951
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: four guys, man, and yeah, Wade, Wade's coordinated them really

952
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: really well. They got great penetration. The Niners tried a

953
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: number of things Kyle Shanahan is a good head coach

954
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: up against a little bit CJ. Bethard. I mean he's

955
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: a little limited, no question about it. But they were

956
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: playing against a top flight defense. Uh, they were on

957
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the road. And let me tell you something under Sean McVay,

958
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: the Rams, the La Rams are undefeated in the division

959
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: on the road. They have yet to lose to one

960
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: of their divis Asian opponents in their own stadiums. The

961
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Rams are for real and for all the you know,

962
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: we was here and talk about all these other teams

963
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: that are you know, playing well like the Chiefs, No question,

964
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: the Rams have got it going on and they and

965
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: they with Aaron Aaron Donald is unblockable. I mean he's unbelievable. Yeah, excellent,

966
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: all right, Steve, long trip, thanks for coming in. Oh yeah,

967
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't miss it. We got more to come. It

968
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: was it was I was watching, you know, I'm trying

969
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: to keep track of the game before we had the

970
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: late game. You know. Yeah, and you're what time is

971
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Speaker 1: your flying? To ask you? This eleven PM took off

972
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: at two am this morning. Oh here he is, folks.

973
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Here another round of applause for Steve Tasker coming into

974
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Speaker 1: work today. They love Yeah, I get a participation trophy

975
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: for showing up for work. We got more to come.

976
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: Chris Round Bills inside from Buffalo Bills dot Com coming

977
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: to join us next hour. We'll talk more about yesterday's

978
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: lots gonna hear from you as well. One Bill's Live

979
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health from One Goals Drive and this

980
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio, the Buffalo Hills Radio Network. Stories

981
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: date for One Bill Drive. A conditioning day today for

982
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills as they try to come back after

983
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: yesterday's brutal loss in Indianapolis thirty seven five Finals score

984
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: at Indie. Bills have question marks and running back now.

985
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: With Lashawan McCoy leaving yesterday's game, he's in concussion protocol

986
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: and nowhere yet on the quarterback plan for this week.

987
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: It seems unlikethy that Josh Shallon will be ready to return,

988
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: but maybe he will. Head coach Sean McDermott meets with

989
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: the media about four o'clock this afternoon, maybe some of

990
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: those plans become more clear. As far as the Patriots,

991
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: they're worried about running back Sony Michelle. He left yesterday's

992
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: game with an injury, and the Patriots say it's a

993
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: serious injury. He's walking without the aid of crutches this morning,

994
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: described by those close to him as being in good spirits.

995
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: According to ESPN, the word is the Patriots expect it

996
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: will be a little time out for Sony Michelle, but

997
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: not an overly serious injury. Tom Brady threw for three

998
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns of Patriots beat the Bears thirty eight thirty one.

999
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: The final score yesterday Patriots are five and two. Rob

1000
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Gronkowski missed yesterday's game with ankle and back injuries, but

1001
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: he is expected to play at Buffalo Monday Night Football

1002
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Tonight is the NFL Weekend concludes the Giants at one

1003
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: and five and the Falcons at two and four eight

1004
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: fifteen kickoff at Mercedes ben Stadium in Atlanta tonight. Patrick

1005
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: Mahomes through eight games his sending NFL records through four

1006
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: scoring passes last night in the Chiefs forty five to

1007
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: ten win over the Cincinnati Bengals. That gives him twenty

1008
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes in the first eight games of his

1009
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: NFL career, breaking the NFL record of twenty one set

1010
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: by Kurt Warner. Justin Tucker had never missed an extra

1011
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: point before he missed one yesterday that would have sent

1012
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: the game to overtime. Baltimore Ravens suffering a stunning twenty

1013
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: four twenty three loss at home to the New Orleans

1014
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: Saints at Windy M ANDT Bank Stadium. Former Anthers wide

1015
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: receiver Rate Caruth, who was convicted of conspiracy to commit

1016
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: murder back in two thousand and one, was released today

1017
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: from a prison in Clinton, North Carolina. Sabers beat the

1018
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: Anaheim Ducks last night. Sabers get six of a possible

1019
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: ten points on their road trip. They are returning to

1020
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: practice tomorrow and their home on Thursday night at seven

1021
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: o'clock against the Montreal Canadians. And that's the update from

1022
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, John Murphy's Team Tasker one o'clock hour

1023
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: on Monday. That usually means, and it means it today.

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00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com, joins us,

1025
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: fresh off his uh covering the game yesterday down in Indianapolis.

1026
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Out in Indianapolis, We're gonna get Brownie some intro music.

1027
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: I agree, What would you like, Chris? I mean, you're

1028
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: James Brown. If you want that's Good's a good one.

1029
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Just an uncle of mine. Get up off of that thing.

1030
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Speaker 1: That's the one. That is the one. I mean, we

1031
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Speaker 1: gotta low down. We got in my wedding at your wedding, Jawn,

1032
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: believe them all right, that's it. Then next time you're

1033
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Speaker 1: in we have to have the James Brown Chris Better

1034
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: game you saw this weekend, the Bills in Coach yesterday

1035
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Speaker 1: or the Pacers in the Brooklyn next Saturday night in

1036
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: Indian That's a trick question because because the basketball game

1037
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: was a blowout too. The Nets basically gave up halfway

1038
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: through the third quarter and they lost by twenty five.

1039
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: I want to say, which tell me nine different nine

1040
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: Pacers were in double figures. It's the first time I

1041
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: read it in the paper the next day. It's the

1042
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: first time the Pacers have done that since stats were

1043
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: hand written in nineteen seventy eight. Wow, that's the last

1044
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: time the Pacers had nine players in double figures in

1045
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: one game. You and I were talking about the game

1046
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Speaker 1: a little bit Saturday and Sunday. I didn't go. Um.

1047
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: Victor Oladippo, former Indiana guard, one of my favorite college

1048
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: basketball players over the last ten years. He's essentially the

1049
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: guy for the pacer he is. Yeah, he's the show.

1050
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean they have some decent role players. Yeah, I

1051
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: have never heard of that. They have some decent role players.

1052
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, he runs the shows like Indiana Chicago guy.

1053
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Chicago, America. He's a African descent, his

1054
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Speaker 1: families of African descent. Okay, yeah, I thought he was

1055
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Speaker 1: sounded Czech Republic to me. Let me just be the

1056
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: totally ignorant guy that I am. That's all right, you're

1057
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: the hockey guy. I'm the basketball guy all the depot.

1058
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: So is he like a forward of guard? He's a guard.

1059
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: He's like he's like a two guy. Yeah, yeah, heard

1060
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: of this guy. Everything else you want to talk about

1061
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Chris before where we stretched this out, before we get

1062
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: to the game, the build game, at the game, at

1063
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: the NBA the basketball game, they had this. They had

1064
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: this T shirt cannon that was something. I mean, it

1065
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: was insane. It was. It was one of those gatling

1066
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: gun things with about thirty T shirt insert tubes and

1067
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: they just cranked that thing. And I am not lying.

1068
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: The banners hanging in the rafters from their ABA titles

1069
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: in the early seventies, they almost hit those banners up

1070
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: in the rafters with this thing. I mean, if that

1071
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: thing has aimed the wrong way, you could take somebody

1072
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: out with a T shirt cannon. It's unbelievable. Us come

1073
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: they get a good T shirt ken. Everybody else's they

1074
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: got guys. You have two of them. They got stuff

1075
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: and they got one guy stuff and one thing. And

1076
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: he pops that out of he goes like six feet.

1077
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: Guy comes over the mascots shooting it does the work.

1078
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: This thing's got two like construction compressors on the thing.

1079
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, any two guys to wheel it around, it's

1080
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: a big deal. I have one more ques. I have

1081
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: a question for you about the venue atmosphere dealing with

1082
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: the Bills and Colts. My Sunday partner Mark Kelso mentioned

1083
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: at one point with everything going on in the timeouts,

1084
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: he said, this place is like a minor league baseball gig.

1085
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: Didn't you get that sence? Yesterday at the Dome at Lucas, Yeah,

1086
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: one of the ticket reps for the Colts talked to

1087
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: one of our ticket reps who made the trip, and

1088
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: the conversation he said, look, we're only expecting about forty

1089
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: thousand people tomorrow, and you know, The next question was, well,

1090
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: why ye, and they said, well, we lost a lot

1091
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: of our season ticket base in the year that Andrew

1092
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: Luck missed, and then this year we started one in

1093
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: five and it went down even further. So the bottom

1094
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: line is this Colts fans for about fifteen years, we're

1095
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: pretty damn spoiled. Uh, you know when Peyton Manning was there,

1096
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: and they're not used to this. They're not used to this,

1097
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: so they feel, no, I'm not showing up. I mean,

1098
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: there's the loyalty there is sorely lacking. Can I just

1099
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: admit that I have no sympathy? I don't either, because

1100
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: the year after you lose Peyton Manning to a neck injury,

1101
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: you get the first pick in the draft. The year

1102
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: that Andrew Luck happens to be coming out. It's always

1103
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: been a quiet venue, even the RCA Dome when you played,

1104
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: but it's very special. It was especially quiet. The RCA

1105
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: Dome was the loudest I've ever heard of when I

1106
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: did a sideline game, just like I'm doing now. I

1107
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: did a sideline game for the championship game between the

1108
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Colts when the Colts dropped down twenty

1109
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: one to three, they were down, they came back and

1110
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: they took the lead with sixty seconds to go in

1111
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: the game and won that to go to the Super

1112
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Bowl and win that. That was as loud as I

1113
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: ever heard that stadium anytime, and Arcia ten times louder

1114
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: than the stupid The press box was right near the roof.

1115
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: It was an open press box too, so you could

1116
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: audibly hear it a lot better because it's a closed

1117
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: press box at Lucas Oil. But I mean it reverberates

1118
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: off that roof, and it's the first thing that hits

1119
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: you when you're up in that press box. It is loud.

1120
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil is no RCA. RCA was much louder, ten

1121
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: times louder than the current building. Chris Brown, Bills inside

1122
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: a Buffalo. Bills do comm in studio with us. We've

1123
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: put it off for nine minutes. Now we've got to

1124
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: talk about the thirty seven to five defeat. A ridiculous score.

1125
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: That score makes me mad, Chris. You know, it's the

1126
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: first time an NFL game has finished thirty seven to five.

1127
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: It just to have a ridiculous score like that to

1128
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: seven for five points. Bills have seven touchdowns in seven games,

1129
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: this year seven touchdown to seven games. They have gone

1130
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: without a touchdown in three of their seven games, the

1131
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: shutout in Green Bay Week one against the Ravens and yesterday.

1132
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean in almost half your games you

1133
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: have not scored a touchdown. They are averaging a touchdown

1134
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: a game that's not going to win you many games.

1135
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: They're fortunate that they've won two in light of their

1136
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: scoring issues. And yet we talk about yesterday's game. We've

1137
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of started with the defense. We were leaning on

1138
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: the defense around here for the last several weeks, and

1139
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: yesterday it all kind of fell apart. And thanks I

1140
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: think for a couple of things. Number one, a different

1141
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: offensive approached by the Colts. I thought Frank Greig did

1142
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: a masterful job of calling that offensive plays. Number two,

1143
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, you know he's a precision artist. There were yesterday.

1144
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: There were two things at work in this game that

1145
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: we're not on displaying the game the week before. Number one,

1146
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: you had a quarterback who does not fall victim to

1147
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: disguised coverages. Number two, he only threw it twenty three times.

1148
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: So the strength of your defense, which is your pass rush,

1149
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: really it never had a chance to get off and running,

1150
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: and when it was twenty four to nothing by the

1151
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: second quarter, the Colts didn't have to throw the ball

1152
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the game if they didn't want to,

1153
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: and for the most part, they didn't. And so when

1154
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: you're calling card is your pass rush and your ability

1155
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: to take the ball away via the interception and the

1156
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: other team hasn't throwing the ball, the strongest part of

1157
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: your defense disappears, and now you have to stop the run.

1158
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: And they could not do that. And I thought Lorenzo

1159
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: Alexander's comments after the game were the most telling of

1160
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: all with respect to the defensive performance. He essentially said

1161
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: that every time we came out for a new defensive series,

1162
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: they threw something new at us in the run game

1163
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: every single time. So they come to the sideline after

1164
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: whatever drive or punt they force, they make the adjustments

1165
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: so they're ready for the next series based on some

1166
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: of the gap schemes that they were running. They come

1167
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: out the next series. Bang, it's something different. Now you

1168
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: got to catch up again, go to the sideline, make

1169
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: adjustments for that. Now you're preparing for this. You're preparing

1170
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: for this. Bang something different again. The third series and

1171
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: the people that had crossed up the most were Tremaine

1172
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: Edmonds and Matt Mlano, two of the younger players in

1173
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: your front seven, and those are the guys that make

1174
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: most of your plays. So you got those two guys

1175
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: crossed up, You're halfway to win and already against this

1176
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: Bills defense. Yeah. One of the things about that jumps

1177
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: out at me is the Bills are pretty good against

1178
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: okay quarterbacks, but when you go against you. They were

1179
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: lost to Joe Flacco, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck

1180
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: and they should have eaten Deshaun Watson. You talk about

1181
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and Kirk Cousins are the two guys that

1182
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: they should have beaten. Didn't. Well, they beat Cousins, but

1183
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: beat Cousins. Yeah, but those are the you know, you'd

1184
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: get Rodgers and Flacco and Rivers and Luck. That's who

1185
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: they seem to struggle against, guys who you kind of

1186
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: know what they're doing when they look at a defense.

1187
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: It also doesn't help when you don't have an offense

1188
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: that can back you up and maybe get Because I'm

1189
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, halfway through the second quarter,

1190
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: that defense was gassed. I mean they were gassed they

1191
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: were on the field for eighteen minutes in the first half,

1192
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: and that by the middle point of that second quarter,

1193
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: a lot of hands on hips, a lot of guys

1194
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: looking up at the scoreboard. How much time we got

1195
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: left on the clock? Here are we ever going to

1196
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: get off the yield? And when that happens, you know

1197
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: the challenge and you probably know this better than anyone.

1198
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: See if it's you have to stay mentally sharp even

1199
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: when you're physically tired. And I felt that wasn't there

1200
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: either in those instances, because they were still making you know, mistakes,

1201
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: not reading their keys properly, getting out flanked in the

1202
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: run game. I mean that's due to false steps and

1203
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: things like that, just as much as it is being

1204
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: physically tired. But when your offense can't stay on the field,

1205
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, and the other teams getting extra possessions because

1206
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: of turnovers, I mean they wore their defense out. I mean,

1207
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: second half, they didn't have much left. Chris, when did

1208
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: you make of Derek Anderson's performance? What grade would you

1209
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: give them? Probably somewhere like a B minus somewhere around there, um,

1210
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: because I think and I'm taking you know, at phase value,

1211
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: you'd probably grade them lower, but I think we have you.

1212
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: You're doing them a disservice in a grade if you

1213
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: don't take into account the circumstances which with which he

1214
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: was given this assignment starting at quarterback after all, the

1215
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: ten days of preparation. I mean, that's barely enough time

1216
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: to master a game plan from an offensive playbook that

1217
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: you didn't set eyes on until ten days ago. So

1218
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, I thought from a functionality standpoint, the offense

1219
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: was functional for the most part. He got the ball

1220
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: out in rhythm on time, as evidenced by the plays

1221
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: that his receivers were able to able to make. Calvin

1222
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: Benjamin made more plays in this game than any other

1223
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: game this season. You know, they weren't good on third down,

1224
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: but you know, I felt that he was moving the offense.

1225
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they moved into Indianapolis territory. I think on

1226
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: three of their first six possessions. The problem was two

1227
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: of the three they turned the ball over once they

1228
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: got to that side of the fields. He can't They're

1229
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: just not good enough to turn it over and there,

1230
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: because that's that's how they win. They've got to win

1231
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: the turnover battle, and their defense has got to stand

1232
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: up and play no hit well and and that's what

1233
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: I told Murph in the Monday Morning breakdown on our

1234
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: social media channels this morning. Last week against the Texans

1235
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: special teams two turnovers, they spot the Texans ten points

1236
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: in the first half. The yesterday, they spot them eleven

1237
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: points on two turnovers in the first half, and a

1238
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: game that could have arguably been at worst fourteen to

1239
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: six if those two possessions only end up in field

1240
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: goals instead of fourteen to six, it's twenty four nothing

1241
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: at half, and the game's essentially over because you don't

1242
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: have an offense that can climb back into the game.

1243
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: They're just not good enough. Because you brought up Kelvin Benjamin,

1244
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: what are we to make of the better connection between

1245
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: this quarterback Derek Anderson and Kelvin Benjamin targeted five times

1246
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: four catches for almost eighteen yards per catch. What are

1247
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: we to make of that? Is there was What do

1248
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: we make of that? What do we What does it

1249
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: say about Josh Allen and Kelvin Benjamin? Do you think

1250
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: I think mentally Benjamin has a greater level of trust

1251
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: with Derek Anderson. That's probably a byproduct of the time

1252
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: they had spent together in Carolina. He knows who he is,

1253
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: he knows what he's capable of. He's seen him perform.

1254
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: So my guess, and you know, we looked this up.

1255
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: I gotta give him my intern Kyle some credit here,

1256
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: he looked it up. Kelvin Benjamin's first career touchdown reception

1257
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: came from Derek Anderson and Carolina. So I think there's

1258
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: a history there, there's a level of comfort there, and

1259
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: I think most importantly, there's a level of trust there

1260
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: from Kelvin Benjamin to Derek Anderson. That's the that's the

1261
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: direction I'm talking here. And I don't know if he

1262
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: trusts Josh Allen yet because Josh Allen's a rookie. There's

1263
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Speaker 1: no book on him at this level. And maybe maybe

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: Kelvin has an issue with that. I don't know that,

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Speaker 1: but it seems that there was. I just felt that

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Speaker 1: Benjamin was more locked in yesterday than maybe in previous weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because of the trust, just the opposite

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Speaker 1: of that for me, and I wasn't there. You guys

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: saw the game, but I you know, I only watched

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Speaker 1: the recorded version of it. It's about the quarterback, given

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Speaker 1: the guy, the quarterback knowing what he's looking at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Derek Anderson's throwing it at him, and times when I

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01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: don't know that Josh Allen would consider him open um.

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01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: I think it's more about Derek Anderson throwing the football

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01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: to Kelvin rather than Kelvin playing in a different way.

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01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: There were throws, and I just think Derek Anderson knows

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01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: what he's looking at and Kelvin Benjamin's opened sometimes when

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01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't think Josh Allen or Nate Peterman believes he

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: is uh. And I think receivers respond to that, and

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01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: particularly and we talked about it earlier in the show,

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: when that ball's coming out on time, the receivers, you know,

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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: are heightened in their awareness of hey, I've got a

1283
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: little sense of urgency here. I know the ball is

1284
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah. I think, and I've always said, I've

1285
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: always said this, it's more about the quarterback than it

1286
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: is the receivers, even even when Benjamin is catching more

1287
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: ball than he or normally does. Let's take a few

1288
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: phone calls Chris Brown, Bills inside a Buffalo. Bills dot

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01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: Com is in studio with us for a couple of

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01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: more minutes. Your calls on yesterday's game the Bills where

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: they're at right now? John calling from Virginia. Hell about John, Welcome,

1292
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: you're on the air, Hey guys, how are you doing.

1293
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to thank Chris again for taking the time

1294
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: to meet me and my family when we were down

1295
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: for the tense Tennessee Titans game. Yeah, he stopped by

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01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: the pregame radios. They said hi to kel So and

1297
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: I were taking his kids are hugging us and stuff.

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01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do, it was. It was

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: very nice. They were very friendly, more you know, little

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01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: guys running around, So it was good to see the

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01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: whole family there. So, Um, what I was wanted to

1302
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: ask you guys, is how the heck did it come

1303
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: to this point with the Buffalo Bills, but especially with

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01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: the offense. I mean, I really like McDermott, and I

1305
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: like being and I like a lot of the things

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01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: that they've done. And he's very methodical and he really

1307
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: know heavy thinking into everything that he does. But I mean,

1308
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: you and I and everyone that can see everything that's

1309
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: going on with the Bills, how did it get to

1310
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: this point where we don't have any options at quarterback?

1311
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: Can No? He's both of them have not been able

1312
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: to identify not just the quarter situation, but no offensive

1313
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: talent whatsoever. Can I can I go first, it's because

1314
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: they were determined to move on from Tyrod Taylor. They

1315
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: could have stayed with Tyrod, maybe won seven or eight

1316
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: or nine games again this year, and not get to

1317
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: where they ultimately wanted to be in consistent playoff contention.

1318
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: They yes, decided to take a step back. Let's trade

1319
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: away Tyrod, let's draft our quarterback of the future, and

1320
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: let's see what we wand where we wind up from that.

1321
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: It's it's not started out well, there's no question about that.

1322
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: But that I believe is the number one And that's

1323
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: that's what people have to remind themselves. Look, Tyrod Taylor's

1324
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: not here. They're taking a chance with a rookie quarterback

1325
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: for the most part. Now, of course they have Derek Anderson.

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: That's where they got where they are right now. Yeah,

1327
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: this was a team that was thirty first in passing

1328
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: last year and the year before that, right and they're not.

1329
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're not any better now. So I get

1330
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: why that's frustrating, But I think we have to also

1331
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: remember the fact that the plan going in was to

1332
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: not have Alan play right. Alan was supposed to be

1333
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: watching from the sidelines this year as a rookie. There

1334
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: was no intention of him playing at least through the

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: first half of the season. If State Peterman would have

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: played like Derek Anderson did yesterday, nobody would be saying

1337
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: anything right. So the problem here is the guy might

1338
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: be there might be five weeks late. The guy that

1339
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: you tabbed to be the bridge starter was Nathan Peterman,

1340
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: and people can point to that and have whatever opinions

1341
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: they want. The bottom line is, no matter what you

1342
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: feel about Nathan Peterman, positive or negative, it didn't work.

1343
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: And so what that did was accelerate the plan for

1344
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who now suddenly has to become a starter

1345
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: in week two of his rookie year, when I can't

1346
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: believe for a second that the plan was for him

1347
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: to see action that early in his career. And so

1348
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: now you have two players who had a combined by

1349
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: coming into week two, you had two players that had

1350
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: a combined three starts on their NFL resume, and that's

1351
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: all you had at the quarterback position. So now you're

1352
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: playing and Alan is going to have a share of

1353
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 1: struggles you're anticipating that he gets hurt. You know where

1354
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: Peterman has to come in, and it's not any better.

1355
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: And now you're scrambling four answers, literally scrambling for answers

1356
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: at the position at a time in the calendar year

1357
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: where there isn't much out there available unless you're willing

1358
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: to trade off some answers. John, and Virginia, I can

1359
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: tell you you've given this some thought and I'm anticipating

1360
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: a really good question here. Don't disappoint me. Well, you know,

1361
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Speaker 1: you just it's really sick to my stomach when you

1362
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: see people like Robert Woods blowing up in LA and

1363
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: I know they've got a completely different offense. But yeah,

1364
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: he would have been our possession receiver. Then you have

1365
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: Marquis Goodwin, who was always our speed burner, who I

1366
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: know he's had a hard time staying healthy, but he

1367
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: has been healthy ever since. He's known to forty nine ers.

1368
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: And you know Watkins, I think the jury is still

1369
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: out on him, but he would have been both possession

1370
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: and speed. Yeah. Had we had offensive talent there that

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01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: could have been used for someone like Josh Allen, Yeah, John,

1372
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: that's not the question. I was hoping for from now.

1373
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: But you're also you're also with those three guys, you're

1374
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: also spending twenty five million dollars. They're free agents. Two

1375
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: of them were free agents, and they took They probably

1376
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: thought Robert Woods is a smart guy. He probably thought,

1377
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if first of all, I can't go

1378
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: home to LA. Secondly, I don't know if I'm going

1379
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: to get that many looks here with Sammy Watkins at

1380
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: the top of the depth chart and with Tyrod Taylor

1381
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, Marquis Goodwin, same thing, probably thinking what

1382
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: are we going to get out of him? He could

1383
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: barely get on the field on offense here he couldn't

1384
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: say healthy. But you know what I'm saying, John, those

1385
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: are free agents who we had. That was part of

1386
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: their decision not to mention that Robert Woods got almost

1387
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars a year and I don't think the

1388
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: Bills are going to go to go home. That's why

1389
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: they're not here, John, Those two one person that Bean

1390
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: and McDermott on offense that they've identified as someone that

1391
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: they could bring in and make a difference on an offense.

1392
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: They haven't been able to do it on one single

1393
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: person I think about that, What was this Not one

1394
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: offensive player that they've identified as the difference maker, inquire

1395
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: offensive assets, the position quarterback. Not one single person they've

1396
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: been able to bring in on offense that has been

1397
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: a difference maker for our team. Not one single person.

1398
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory, you don't like that one ja I like them,

1399
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: but Marcus Murphy, Yeah, it's just a good point, and

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01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: it is. You can bind that with what's been stripped

1401
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 1: off the roster. You know, in terms of past draft

1402
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: choices from previous regimes, you know, you strip it away,

1403
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: strip it away, strip it away, strip it away. Eventually

1404
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 1: it's going to reach critical mass to the point where

1405
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: no matter who you add to your roster, short of

1406
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: five or six pro bowlers, you can't make up for

1407
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: what you've lost, whether your offense was productive or not.

1408
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: From a talent perspective, and as we all know, the

1409
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: NFL chiefly is about matchups, and if you don't have

1410
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: guys that create mismatches, or enough of them across the board,

1411
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to compete, it's hard to produce. And this

1412
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: is what we're seeing right now, a troubling problem with

1413
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: putting points on the board because you don't have guys

1414
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: that can win matchups. I think also that this team,

1415
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: maybe by design, maybe by happenstance, baby, by whatever, they've

1416
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time and money on the defensive

1417
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: side of the football. They did get that right. And

1418
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: you can say, you can point to Sean McDermott's expertise

1419
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator and the way they put it

1420
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: together trying to trying to knowing that or believing that

1421
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: they were gonna win games the way they've won them

1422
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: this year. If they were gonna win this year was

1423
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: going to be the way they did it last year

1424
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: and the way they did it this year. Offenses are

1425
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: obviously much more difficult to put together everywhere you go

1426
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 1: until you find a guy that can pull the trigger.

1427
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: So they put their assets into the other side of

1428
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: the football until they could do that. And John, let

1429
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: me just say, and it's a good point, it's worth

1430
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: thinking about. I would submit, you know, it's not a

1431
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: skill position guy, but Deon Dawkins is a pretty good

1432
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: addition to the offense. But make no mistake about this,

1433
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: I believe this the most important addition to the Buffalo offense,

1434
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: not just in the last two years, in the last

1435
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: five years, maybe ten years. Is Josh Allen? We don't

1436
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna pay dividend. Jet. There are some

1437
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: encouraging signs, but he is critical to you know when

1438
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: you say that one addition to the offense that's made

1439
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: a difference. Okay, can we be patient with Josh Allen

1440
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: a little bit because he is the most significant addition

1441
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: they made on defense, I would submit in the last decade,

1442
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: decad and a half on offense. Oh, for sure. Yeah,

1443
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: he's the highest drafted quarterback the team's ever taken. Um,

1444
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: he's certainly and you guys and if anybody's watched him live,

1445
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: they know he's physically gifted. M He's got that kind

1446
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: of ability, no question. He's got a long way to

1447
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: go mentally, but you know, as you would expect. Um.

1448
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: The question is, really, when's he gonna play next? If

1449
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: this injury is just a bump in the road, which

1450
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 1: is what it is, what it looks like it's gonna

1451
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: be a two three week whatever bump in the road,

1452
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be back in the lineup this year. How

1453
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: fast does he get better next? When's he gonna play next?

1454
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: And how's he going to play and is he going

1455
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 1: to show improvement? Is the team going to improve around him?

1456
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: And also, uh, you know the trade deadline is a

1457
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: week you know, it's a week from tomorrow. Thanks for

1458
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: your call, John, good questions. Let's say you get to

1459
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,759
Speaker 1: have a one more call Christmas stick Um David and Jamestown.

1460
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: Hello David, Welcome to the show. Hi guys, I have

1461
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: a couple of points to make it if you bear

1462
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: with me. I called I actually I called you guys

1463
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: on Friday and said that I didn't see how anybody

1464
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: but the most you know, cock eite optimists could could

1465
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,839
Speaker 1: think that Sunday was not going to be a disaster,

1466
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: and you kind of both jumped on me. And I'm

1467
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: not calling to glow. Honestly, I wish I was wrong,

1468
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: but I think we can all agree that Sunday was

1469
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: a disaster. The thing that I am most upset about

1470
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: is how they've mismanaged a quarterback role for the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, if you look, almost every

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Speaker 1: draft expert analysts out there said that Josh Allen was

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Speaker 1: the least pro righty quarterback coming out of college. He

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: didn't come from a big name school, he didn't play

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01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: in a big conference, M David before you go on.

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01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: So you're you're done with Josh Allen. You've seen enough,

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Speaker 1: He's no, I'm not that. What I'm saying is, what

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Speaker 1: would you have done. I would have had a veteran

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Speaker 1: quarterback I would have even kept And I'm not a

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor fan, but I would have kept Yrod for

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: another year and let Josh Allen sit behind him and learn.

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01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: And I can point to several quarterbacks who you might

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01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: have heard of. Tom Brady sat behind Drew Bledsoe until

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01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe got hurt. Well, Drew Bledsoe signed a one

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract. Aaron Rodgers sat for I believe

1486
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: three or four years behind behind a Hall of famer, right,

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so you should have gotten a guy who

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: was worth one hundred and ten million dollars who got

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01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: hurt the day after he signed that contract, who pushed

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01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the thing. Or you should have drafted.

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01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: You should have had Brett Farve go to the Hall

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01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: of Fame so that we could let Josh Allen sit

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: behind a guy like Brett Farve before he played. I'm

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: not where are you going to find that? Guy, you're

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: saying you should have kept Tyrod Taylor. We were thirty

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: first in the league in passing. We're thirty first, Now,

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: why why would we sit Josh out behind Tyrod Taylor?

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01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, if Tyrod Taylor was here and

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01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: this and the season winners as it did, Tyrod's on

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01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: the bench in Cleveland because he got hurt and didn't

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01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: even I'm not jumping on yet like Steve Is. I mean,

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: I get it. There was money involved with Tyrod too,

1503
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: a March payment that they did not want to get.

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01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: They didn't didn't want to pay that money, and they

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: used tyrode to leverage their draft position better. But look,

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01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: you can make a case, and I would listen to

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: a case that they have mismanaged quarterbacks. But I don't

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: think Tyrod Taylor is part of that mismanagement. I think Okay,

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01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm just using as are you telling me there were

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01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: no free agent quarterbacks available this offseason who could have

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: come in here and held the fourth down for a

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01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: year while Josh Allen learned his craft. I can point to.

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01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: I can name twenty quarterbacks I'm not point to, but

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: name two Ryan Leaf, Matt Lion or Joy Harrington as

1515
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,879
Speaker 1: Ryan Leave, Joey Harrington, Joey Harrington, they're forty five years old,

1516
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: thrown in and we're ruined because they weren't ready for

1517
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: then were younger when they came into the league. Yeah,

1518
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: Ryan Lee, they were young quarterbacks that had to play

1519
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: early and failed because of it. At the point I

1520
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:15,480
Speaker 1: make that, you what about Ben Roethlisberger? What about Ben Roethlisberger?

1521
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: There are exceptions, yes, but there's there's ten guys to

1522
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: one of Ben Roethlisbergers who were thrown in and who

1523
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: ended up flaming out because they weren't ready and their

1524
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: confidence was destroyed. I firmly believe that Josh Allen is

1525
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: not ready to be an NFL quarterback that look just

1526
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: getting ready, so we can Dave David. Nobody's agreeing, no disagreeing.

1527
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: Nobody is disagreeing that Josh is not ready to play.

1528
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: It would be a good quarterback. What you might disagree

1529
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: is how best to develop him? Right, and that I'm

1530
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: saying that I think the best way to develop him

1531
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: is to sit and learn behind a veteran. I think

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01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: that throwing him in when he's not ready could potentially

1533
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: destroy his psyche and ruin him. I mean, was Ryan

1534
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: So so he came out? It was it was David

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,839
Speaker 1: So when Josh Allen's health that you should Derek Anderson

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: should stay in there. He's gone, David, I just come

1537
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: him on. Oh yeah, what are you doing? We got

1538
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: a clock ticket? Well, not only that, I mean I

1539
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: think the fan frustration just to kind of try to

1540
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: hear the fans out, you know, and where they're coming from.

1541
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: They're frustrated by where the quarterback position sits right now.

1542
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: I think everybody remembers Brandon Bean. After drafting, Josh Allen

1543
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: said publicly at the Poet, you know, post mortem from

1544
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: the draft, Josh is not a finished product. He's gonna

1545
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: need time. Then it becomes well, how do you how

1546
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: do you give him that time? Do you give him

1547
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: that time by learning and watching? Do you give him

1548
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: that time by learning and playing? Whatever the philosophy is,

1549
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: it was clear at the beginning of the season, the

1550
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: philosophy was to have him sit. He did not win

1551
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: the competition in the preseason, have him sit and learn.

1552
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: Who knows when they would have given him the green

1553
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: light to come in. I have to believe it was

1554
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: given far sooner than they had hoped, absolutely, But here's

1555
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: the thing, and I think and the frustration is there's

1556
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: no there was no backup plan other than putting Josh in.

1557
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's where the frustration of the fans lies,

1558
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: by and large. So if that's the truth, which maybe

1559
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: it is, they should be happy as clams because now

1560
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 1: you can sit behind Derek Anderson, a veteran quarterback, and

1561
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: watch and learn. Yeah, and they can watch their team

1562
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: turn it over five times. I just think the frustration

1563
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: lies in the fact that back in March there were

1564
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: opportunities to pay for free agent veteran quarterbacks they didn't want.

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01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: They didn't want to outbid some teams that understandably had

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in cap space, and the Bills

1567
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: did not have that, so they couldn't get into a

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: bidding war for a free agent veteran. But there were

1569
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 1: guys that they had on their radar, like a Josh McCown,

1570
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, players like that, but they cost too much

1571
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: money because to pay foals or so then you end

1572
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: up you end up with mccaren. We all know how

1573
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: that worked out. They move him because he was going

1574
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: to be the three on the roster. Based on how

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: the competition shook out, and he didn't want any part

1576
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: of that, right, So that's why they are where they are,

1577
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: But it still doesn't keep fans from being frustrated from

1578
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: where the quarterback position sits for the team right now.

1579
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: I think that's really where they're coming from. Hey, Chris,

1580
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: what's on the website Buffalo Bills dot com And what's

1581
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 1: coming up on the website. Yeah, so we've got Monday.

1582
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: Are four observations from yesterday's game and Week seven in

1583
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's not just a look back at yesterday's game,

1584
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: which probably a few people want to do. We also

1585
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: take a look around the league, including taking a peek

1586
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: at the Bill's next two upcoming opponents, which includes as

1587
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: we all know, New England and coach McDermott meets with

1588
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: the media at four today. That's available right now in

1589
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: our social media and if you miss the press conference

1590
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: and you can't watch it streaming live, you know, we'll

1591
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: have a quick recap on that on Quick Hits late

1592
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: in the afternoon before we let you go. On the

1593
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: injury front, what do you expect about Lashawn can cushion protocol? Typically, Yeah,

1594
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: more than a week you got to get through the

1595
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 1: five stages of it. I don't know when testing begins,

1596
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: whether it's the very next day. The benefit here is

1597
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: there's an extra day to play with with it being

1598
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: a Monday night game. I know, the schedule is pushed

1599
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: back this week, so Wednesday's practice is now Thursday. This week,

1600
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: Thursday's a Friday, Fridays a Saturday. So he does get

1601
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: the benefit of an extra day to kind of just

1602
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: do whatever he needs to do, whether I mean, if

1603
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: it's bad, he's sitting in a dark room somewhere sleeping,

1604
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, if he's okay, you know, maybe they go

1605
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: through that protocol and say exercise, you know, ride the bike,

1606
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: let's check for symptoms coming back nothing good. Next stage,

1607
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: but he's got to get through the five stages of

1608
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol. Not many expect that Josh Allen will

1609
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: be ready to return Monday. What do you think week

1610
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: to week was the initial diagnosis It wasn't changed by

1611
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: the end of the week. It's his throwing arm. I mean,

1612
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's only a healing issue that has

1613
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: to happen, but I think there's a rehab issue that

1614
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: has to take place too. With that throwing motion, because

1615
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: you don't just come back from a whatever that is

1616
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: in his elbow, a sprained elbow, and throw three hundred

1617
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: passes the next week in practice, you know, let alone

1618
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: in a game, or however many of that are or

1619
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: so I think there's a rehab element to this too,

1620
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: even when he is healthy and medically clear. All right,

1621
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: Thanks Chris, Chris Brown Bills inside a Buffalo Bills dot

1622
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: com You can follow him there of all the information,

1623
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: including a recap of mcdermot's four o'clock news conference today.

1624
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: John Murphy steam tasker, We're coming back at you in

1625
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,879
Speaker 1: a moment or two. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida

1626
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills

1627
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: Radio staff. Anderson gives it to Murphy, cuts to his right,

1628
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: finds a big hole up the middle, inside the twenty five,

1629
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: inside the twenty, inside the fifteen, and put down at

1630
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: the twelve yard line, an eighteen yard game for Marcus Murphy.

1631
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: Welcome back. That is Marcus Murphy and running the Bills

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01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: into the hundred. Real estate red zone visit hunt real

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01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: estate dot com to score on all of your real

1634
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: estate needs. A couple of interesting tweets Steve, I just

1635
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: took a listen. I don't know how you he did

1636
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: radio without Twitter. It was much more fun. I like

1637
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: some more fun. There's one TMB I want to read

1638
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: this one serious question. Is there anyone who can last

1639
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: longer than ten minutes listening to one Bill's Drive? They

1640
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: may be the worst show on w GR. Maybe. I

1641
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: guess we get a few people listen more than ten minutes,

1642
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: But you know what, ten minutes is good. We'll take

1643
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: ten shows up the rating book. I think my mom

1644
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: and dad listen for like thirteen minutes at a time.

1645
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, even if it's only ten minutes, right,

1646
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: We'll take if everybody listens for ten minutes will be good.

1647
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: And I've been accused of getting cranky too, because I'm

1648
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm working on a lack of sleep, and

1649
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm they're telling me I'm getting cranky now too. So

1650
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: I've gotta I gotta let the callers talk. And here's one.

1651
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: Ian Carmody a blowout loss and the head and the

1652
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: head coach. I guess Tony company Lyne we sucked. He

1653
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: knows they sucked, but won't say it. Don't want anyone

1654
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: called out. Just cannot take the robotic response. It's just

1655
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: be a human and say we sucked. I think he's

1656
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: talking to Sean McDermot about that. A couple of pretty

1657
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: honest about it. Yeah. Anyway, here's a tweet that I

1658
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,959
Speaker 1: want to mention. This is from grim Reaper. Most troubling

1659
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: for me. We asked people to let us know what

1660
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: was most troubling about yesterday's lost, Grim Reaper. Most troubling

1661
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: for me was how this loss gave Tom Brady the

1662
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: opening to taunt the Bills and their fan base with

1663
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Woo Bills Mafia were coming. Did you see this Brady

1664
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: on a cell phone after yesterday's Patriots win? I hope

1665
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: you saw or heard this earlier. Another great win five

1666
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: and two. Gotta get six and two, my boy lt

1667
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 1: I took him too on the way. Whoa Bills Mafia,

1668
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: here we've come. I kinda like that. I like the

1669
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Brady's aware of where he's going and what he's up

1670
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: against and probably feels pretty confident about his chances. I

1671
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: like that. I don't mind that at all. What do

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01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: you think? You know? It's interesting that he did it. Yeah,

1673
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: you know, it almost shows him like that, Like a

1674
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: real person, a real person. Everybody here in Western New

1675
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: York hates that guy. Yeah, I thought that was kind

1676
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: of cool. Hey, phone line, Joe, we want to hear

1677
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: from you with the most troubling aspect of yesterday's loss

1678
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Colts. Look, there's a laundry list right.

1679
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff bothered me. I'm sure it did.

1680
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: You love to hear from you about it. Eight oh

1681
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: three five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight

1682
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Joe and Tona wanted to

1683
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: go ahead, and Joe, you're on the air with us,

1684
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: Hi guys. Yeah, you guys didn't mention too much about

1685
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: how the whole game plan went out the window when

1686
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: McCoy went out. Do you think it did what? You

1687
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: want to answer on that? First? You think? Do you

1688
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: think it changed? Joe? I'm sorry, do you think they

1689
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: changed through the game game plan out? No? I just

1690
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 1: think the whole game plan went out and uh, you

1691
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: know then they were fighting, uh you know, try to

1692
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: find something else. Yeah, listen, here's what I saw, Joe,

1693
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: and I think that go ahead, Go ahead, Joe, come

1694
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: in on that first. What's that I didn't hear you, Joe,

1695
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: do you want to comment on Yeah, go ahead and comment.

1696
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: Go the one two punch we might have had with

1697
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: McCoy and Ivory and that you know, that one out

1698
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: the window. Yeah. We don't typically play those guys together

1699
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: very often, so I don't know if that was the plan.

1700
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: Did that go out the window? I don't know if

1701
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: that was the plan. No, not together? Oh you know

1702
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: all right? My next thing is, yeah, uh, do you

1703
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: know how I know you don't want to talk about

1704
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: it because Kaepernick's been banned from the NFL. I think

1705
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,480
Speaker 1: he has not been banned, he has not been signed.

1706
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Talk about it. Go ahead with their defense. You know what,

1707
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: what do you think? You know, if he could have

1708
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: came in and said to Anderson, no, I don't think

1709
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: he's that good. I don't think he's as good as

1710
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson, to be honest with you. And he hasn't

1711
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: played now in a couple of years. I'm not sure

1712
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: what his interest level is in playing right now. He

1713
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: talks about it, but I don't know. And we'll talk

1714
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: about Colin Kaepernick all day long. He's not playing in

1715
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: the league. We know why he's not playing because teams

1716
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: don't want to bring in that distraction. They don't want

1717
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: to bring in what he brings with him, So we'll

1718
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: talk about it all day. You don't know that. We

1719
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about that. Now I'm getting like you.

1720
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: And here's the thing about here's where I think about

1721
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. You've got these guys like the Bills, like uh,

1722
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: like whoever else, whoever else you want to mention. There's

1723
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: no question that what Colin Kaepernick has started, the movement

1724
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 1: he started is something really important, social justice and all that.

1725
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: And people will will vilify him for kneeling during the

1726
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: anthem and say he's protesting the anthem when he's really

1727
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: not protesting the appling anthem. He's protesting social injustice. And

1728
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: when push comes to shove, that's way more important than football.

1729
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: People in our society who are oppressed, who are it's

1730
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: way more important. So you're asking a multi billion dollar

1731
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: industry like football to bring this guy in and then

1732
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: ignore something that's actually more important than what he's coming

1733
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: in to do. That's hard, and that brings with it

1734
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: a lot of things, a lot of distraction, a lot

1735
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 1: of attention, a lot of conflict with these guys that

1736
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: are saying, well, you know, should I kneel down with

1737
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick or not, because whether you agree with him

1738
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: or not, it's about something other than football, and it's

1739
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: about something very important to a lot of people in

1740
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: this country, and it becomes something that's actually more important

1741
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: than your job football. So it's really a hard balance

1742
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: to strike for these clubs because in actuality, a lot

1743
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: of people will tell, yeah, what Colin Kaepernick's doing is

1744
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: really important, there is something going on there. And I

1745
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of my guys, a lot of my buddies,

1746
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends have been victims of exactly

1747
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: what he's protesting, and I had understand it. It's more

1748
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: important than football, and a lot of teams, maybe all

1749
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: of them, are very hesitant and absolutely reluctant and absolutely

1750
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: against bringing something more important to the table than winning

1751
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: football games because what he's protesting is more important than that.

1752
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: That's why they don't want any part of it. And

1753
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that's just my opinion. I agree with

1754
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: what you're saying. If he were a better player or

1755
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 1: had more to offer a team in a football sense,

1756
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: teams would be more eager to take on everything else

1757
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: that comes with him. I really believe reads back in

1758
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, because he's a better player than Colin

1759
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Kaepernick to what he can offer. Here is a Jeff

1760
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Jeff Hey, I want to appreciate him

1761
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: for saying that given that synopsis on that about the

1762
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: Kaylin Kaepernick is just that our society, like he said,

1763
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people find it more important than a job.

1764
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: And then there's the other side of the of the

1765
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 1: of the coin where some people don't don't look at

1766
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: that is important as football and that's where we are

1767
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: in American as to reality. And that's okay. I grew

1768
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: up in the nineteen sixties when people were marching for

1769
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: civil rights and we had people on the other side

1770
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 1: who didn't want people to have civil rights. So right,

1771
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: the country we have and it's been developed like that

1772
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: old sense, it was developed and um, but there's nothing

1773
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: wrong reality. But I just wanted thinking for that. Let

1774
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: me get back to my point. My point is, um,

1775
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna build his fans for forty years when we

1776
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: I can understand moving on from Tyrod and wanting to

1777
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. The price was way too much. We

1778
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: didn't have to move up to get Allen. Um Uh,

1779
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of teams in there still clamoring

1780
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: up to go get Josh Allen. I'm sorry, there was

1781
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: nobody ready to do that. No, there were, there were

1782
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: at least one. The Arizona Cardinals have said that, but

1783
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, we got Josh Rosan. I would have took

1784
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: that any day of the week. Well, the Cardinals would

1785
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: have rather had Josh Allen. They've said that too, but

1786
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: go ahead. Wow, I wish they wish, We wish they

1787
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 1: had got him. Okay, he wasn't worth three of the

1788
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 1: top fifty six UM draft picks. So because we because

1789
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: we gave up two second rounders in addition to our

1790
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: to our friends fund. And you know that based on

1791
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: his what four NFL starts, No, based on the depth

1792
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: that they would have provided our team, we'd have had

1793
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: three quality football players. And it's just based on it.

1794
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't ready the level of competition he played, he

1795
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: wasn't dominant at that UM I'm saying, if he'd have

1796
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: fell to us at our natural position, we could. We

1797
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: could have kept our two second rounders, and our team

1798
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: would be better because they would be contributor to even

1799
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: if it was only special teams. They would be good.

1800
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't so, Jeff. Wasn't your bottom Jeff, Your bottom

1801
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: line is that we kind of gave up too much

1802
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: to get Josh Allen and you thought we could have

1803
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: gotten him by staying where we were even if we didn't. Right,

1804
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: he justf we did if he if we didn't, we

1805
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: would have got Josh Frozen, Lamar Jackson and two more

1806
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: quality football players in the second round. I got you.

1807
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: We've had three to top fifty six. I think, I mean,

1808
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: he doesn't equate to it's losing those two, those two

1809
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: second rounds. Well, he certainly doesn't yet. He certainly doesn't yet.

1810
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: And certainly, if we would have done it the way

1811
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about, the team might be better right now,

1812
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: um than it is. But that's you know, that's hard

1813
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: to you know, I don't know, it's hard to prove.

1814
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: But I don't know that they'd be better long term.

1815
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the reasons they did.

1816
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: Is there anything else, Jeff, He's gone, Okay, everything's wrong, Steve.

1817
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Everything is wrong because the Bill's lost bad yesterday. That's

1818
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: basically the message from the call the other two and

1819
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: five two I mean, it's it's bad up against it,

1820
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: and I think now and I don't want to move

1821
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 1: on past where we're at, But are they in the

1822
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: spot now where they should have been week one? If

1823
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: they'd have gotten Derek Anderson three months before they did,

1824
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: came in, had all training campaign and put him in

1825
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: externing to dad all that stuff, and now Derek Anderson's

1826
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: playing their two and five, and they would have played

1827
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: like they did yesterday, except the defense would have played

1828
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: better and they would have lost. You know, they'd still

1829
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: be if they were still too five at this point?

1830
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Would everything? Would they be clamoring now for Josh Allen

1831
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: to be playing We're gonna break. That's an interest even

1832
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: if back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's

1833
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. John Murphy, Steve's tasker. One

1834
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. Fred Jackson coming up

1835
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: a little bit after two o'clock to join us, give

1836
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: us his take on yesterday's Bills. Lots where the Bills

1837
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: are at and what's going on around the NFL. Bills

1838
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: have a long week now the players will get I

1839
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: would think an extra day off practice return here on

1840
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: Thursday for what will be the first practice, real first

1841
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: full practice day getting ready for the Patriots game on Monday.

1842
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: He steve in Indianapolis. It was a nice show and

1843
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: a nice turnout. Obviously, Frank Wright coaching against his former team,

1844
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Frank is the head coach. Jim Kelly

1845
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: brought along. It wasn't just him, I mean, Kelly was there,

1846
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: but there were a number of people there, including and

1847
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,440
Speaker 1: they all got together, I guess at Wright's house on Saturday.

1848
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 1: The group went out to dinner on Saturday night in

1849
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: downtown Indie. I saw him there, But John Kidd was there,

1850
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: your former college teammate and former Bills punder. He was there.

1851
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Will Wolford came up from Louisville. It was great to

1852
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: see Will on Saturday night. Bill Brooks, who lives in Indianapolis,

1853
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: to former Bills wide receiver, worked with a great one

1854
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: of the great all time team man, a really good player.

1855
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think whom I missing here plom MSG.

1856
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: That's John Kidd on the left, Jim Kelly on the right,

1857
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: of course, Frank Reich in the middle, and Joe Stasney,

1858
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: who this radio and Indie former group. John Kidd on

1859
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: the left, Frank Reich, Jim Kelly, Terry Henry, Jim's high

1860
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: school football coach. Of course, Kim and Terry Pagoula in

1861
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: a picture as well, so we've got pictures were showing

1862
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: on MSG for those of you who are listening. It

1863
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: was a big weekend. There were a lot of plans

1864
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: going into it, and guys were in and out, and

1865
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: you know how it is, you know how you Hey,

1866
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,600
Speaker 1: we're all going to Vegas. All fifteen guys want to

1867
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: say yes, and by the time it gets there, three

1868
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: of them, three of them show up. But there was

1869
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys there and they were all there

1870
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: and showed to show support for the Buffalo Bills and

1871
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: also Frank Reich. Uh. And it was kind of nice

1872
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 1: to see it. I was getting texts and messages. I

1873
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: was out on the West coast of course all weekend.

1874
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: But they were having a good time and it was

1875
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: good that they all got together. It was It was

1876
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: a nice showing for for the old guys and um,

1877
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, for the Buffalo Bills organizations. It was needed.

1878
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: Was a crucial catch day the NFL's effort to raise

1879
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: money to combat cancer, and they had like a halftime

1880
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: show with a crucial catch banner around the field and

1881
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: all sorts of cancer survivors waving the banner, and Jim

1882
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: Kelly got out there and spend time with those folks again,

1883
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: a survivor himself, right got out there and spent a

1884
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: lot of time addition out hugs and kisses for some

1885
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: of the survivors. I thought it was one of the

1886
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: coolest things that happened in that game yesterday. Yeah, it was. Yeah.

1887
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: For the from Bills perspective, it may been the best

1888
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: thing that ever happened in that game yesterday, But it

1889
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: was good. And I think it's nice that it's uh,

1890
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, crossed team lines. You know, there is a

1891
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: lot of human relationships, and I see it every time

1892
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: I go out and cover these teams about how what

1893
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 1: good friends there are across the field from guys on

1894
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: all these coaching staffs, all these sidelines for the players

1895
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: and lineups, how many good friends and lifelong pals there

1896
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: are who happened to be coaching for different teams. Now,

1897
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: good showing by Frank Frank Craig's former teammates out there.

1898
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna break when we come back. More about this

1899
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: game we'll get more of your thoughts on the most

1900
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: disappointing part of yesterday's bad loss in Indianapolis, and we'll

1901
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: talk with Fred Jackson when we come back for the

1902
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: third and final hour of the show. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

1903
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

1904
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Sports Update yef date

1905
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: comes from One Bill's Drive with the Buffalo Bills come

1906
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 1: back to work today trying to put together the pieces

1907
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: after yesterday's discouraging loss in Indianapolis. Thirty seven to five,

1908
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the final score of the Colts over the Buffalo Bills.

1909
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: The Bills have just seven down scored through their first

1910
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: seven games this season. That's one of the many problems

1911
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: they have to look at as they get ready for

1912
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: what's next. And what's next is a visit from the

1913
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: New England Patriots a week from today, October twenty nine

1914
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: and eight fifteen kickoff on Monday Night Football. The Bills

1915
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: against Tom Brady and the Patriots next Monday Night Patriots,

1916
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: maybe without running back Sonny Michelle. They expected he's gonna

1917
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: miss some time, but it's not a serious injury. Suffered

1918
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: a knee injury. Yesterday in the Patriots game, Tom Brady

1919
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: threw for three touchdowns and the Patriots hung on to

1920
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 1: beat the Bears thirty eight to thirty one. Michelle walking

1921
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: without the eight of crutches, said to be in good spirits.

1922
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: He may not be able to play against the Bills

1923
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: next Monday night. Though the Patriots got two special teams

1924
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: touchdowns in that game they played without Rob Gronkowski. They

1925
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: expect the five time Pro Bowl tight end we'll be

1926
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: able to play against Buffalo on Monday night. New Winland

1927
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: goes to five and two with the win. The Bills

1928
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 1: are two and five, and the Patriots are here next Monday.

1929
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football tonight the Giants in Atlanta coming up

1930
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: eight fifteen at Mercedes Ben Stadium in Atlanta. Kansas City

1931
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: Chief's quarterback Patrick Mahomes continues on his records, adding pace

1932
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: he threw four touchdown passes and last night's forty five

1933
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: ten win over the Cincinnati Bengals. Mahomes, with twenty two

1934
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the first eight games of his NFL career,

1935
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: breaks the old NFL record of twenty one set by

1936
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. Justin Tucker, a record setting day. Yesterday, the

1937
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 1: kicker for the Baltimore Ravens missed his first ever point

1938
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: after kick, and he did it after the Ravens had

1939
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: rallied to get within a point of the New Orleans

1940
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: Saints at Windy M ANDT Bank Stadium. The missed extra

1941
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: point by Justin Tucker, the most accurate field goal kicker

1942
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: in NFL history, meant a twenty four to twenty three defeat.

1943
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: The Ravens lose at home to the New Orleans Saints

1944
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Week seven set another NFL scoring record. One game left

1945
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: to play tonight, but the NFL has already set a

1946
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 1: record through seven weeks of scoring with fifty one hundred points.

1947
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 1: Savers back home on Thursday night when they play the

1948
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Montreal Canadians thirty night, seven o'clock. That's the update from

1949
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, John Murphy Steve Tasker, joined on the

1950
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: line by former Bills running back Fred Jackson, the co

1951
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: host of Bills Tonight, It's Sunday Nights eleven thirty on

1952
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 1: MSG and Mike Catalana recapping the game Sunday Nights and

1953
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: a tough one to do last night. I'mateure, Fred, difficult

1954
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 1: game to recap with not a whole lot of scoring

1955
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: by the Buffalo Bills. But you might be getting used

1956
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 1: to that. Huh h. Man, it was a tough one.

1957
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I think everybody who watched the game or heard the game,

1958
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, figured that, you know, it was not gonna

1959
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun to talk about afterwards. Yeah,

1960
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: and it didn't figure to be the kind of a

1961
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: game thread I honestly and actually thought the Bills would win.

1962
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: I thought because I depended on their defense. I thought

1963
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: their defense would carry the day. But the defense wasn't

1964
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: anything close to the way it had played the three

1965
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: weeks prior. Yeah, I mean, going into the game, it

1966
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: was definitely one that I thought was a winnable game

1967
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: for them, you know, one that they can go on

1968
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: the road and still And I mean, I guess you

1969
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: got to give the Colts, you know, props for what

1970
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 1: they did yesterday. They accomplished something that a lot of

1971
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 1: teams hadn't accomplished this year, and they really wore down

1972
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills defense, and I think that's just got

1973
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: to be a credit to them. You know, the guys

1974
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: did look like they were a little tired out there,

1975
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, being on the field as much as they were,

1976
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: But when stuff like that happens, I think the credit

1977
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: has to go to the to the Colts offense. What

1978
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:06,759
Speaker 1: do you think about the state of the Bill's quarterback

1979
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: position right now? Derek Anderson came in. I don't know

1980
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: what the expectations were by a lot of people, but

1981
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: I think Murph and I I don't know if I

1982
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: speak for him, but I kind of got what we

1983
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: expected from him. Yeah, I think that. You know, for

1984
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: a guy that was two three weeks ago, was on

1985
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: vacation with his family, uh, coming in to play this

1986
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 1: past week, I think you got exactly what you were

1987
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna get from him. He'll need a little bit more

1988
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: time in the system. Obviously he didn't know everything. They

1989
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: didn't have to playbook wide open for him. But it's

1990
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit a little more time for

1991
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: him to get acclimated with the playbook and be able

1992
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 1: to make checks and and things like that on the

1993
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,799
Speaker 1: field going forward. But I think the more that he's around,

1994
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 1: the better that uh he'll have a hold of this

1995
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: offense and be able to make some plays for U

1996
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 1: for the team. But for a guy that was just

1997
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: on the streets two weeks ago, I think he didn't.

1998
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 1: He played pretty well given the circumstances that he was

1999
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 1: tossed into, right. I mean that the turnovers notwithstanding, obviously

2000
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: he can't live like that, but especially the early ones.

2001
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: But really, this is that would kind of play into

2002
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: the recipe the Bills need to stick to to win

2003
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: games this season. Whether it's Derek Anderson or Josh Allen,

2004
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: you got to throw it as little as possible, just

2005
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: give it enough in the running game or enough in

2006
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: the passing game to set up the running game and

2007
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: really win with your defense. And that was really what

2008
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 1: the big difference was yesterday for this team, the fact

2009
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: that their defense really got got handled. Yeah, and I

2010
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: think it can be a winning recipe. You know, Peyton

2011
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: Manning his year in Denver, that defense was so good

2012
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: they just needed him to go out and you know,

2013
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: put up just enough points to win. Carolina when they

2014
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: won their Super Bowl, their defense was carrying them. Or

2015
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Baltimore when they won their their Super Bowl, their defense

2016
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 1: was carrying them and they were just having a quarterback

2017
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: that would come in, manage the game and put up

2018
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: just enough points to win it. So it's a recipe

2019
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: that they can definitely live by. Especially because we know

2020
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,799
Speaker 1: how defense, how good the Bills defense can be. Yesterday

2021
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: they just weren't up to par. We know they know

2022
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: that they they're going to come back and go to

2023
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: work today and look at what it was that they

2024
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 1: got exploited on in the film room and make some changes.

2025
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know coming out next week they

2026
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: got a big test for him. Uh, they'll be ready

2027
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 1: to step up to the challenge on the line. With

2028
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, former Bills running back co host of Bills

2029
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: Tonight Sundays eleven thirty on MSG Hey, Fred, talking about

2030
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: the Bills defensive struggles. I want to get your thoughts

2031
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 1: on what the Colts were doing to run the football

2032
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: so well? They ran for two hundred and twenty yards.

2033
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 1: They got people outside a lot. What did you see?

2034
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 1: What was their strategy and how did they manage to

2035
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: get outside and you know, kind of take advantage of

2036
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: the Bills. I thought interior linebackers who were not in

2037
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: the right place. Yeah. One of the things that I

2038
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: saw that they were doing, they were cutting the line.

2039
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Um they were they were making gaps in the defense.

2040
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 1: Uh so they were they were pulling linemen and they

2041
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: were cut off guys so that they couldn't run over

2042
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: the top. And I think that's one of the things

2043
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: that the Bills linebackers are really good at, his running

2044
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 1: over the top and filling holes, and they weren't able

2045
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: to do that. And then when they got those guys

2046
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: cut off, it just made for huge running lanes and

2047
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: they were getting through. And I think that was just

2048
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: something that maybe the offensive coordinator saw with two young

2049
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: linebackers out there, and Matt Mlana believe this is his

2050
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: second year and you know, Trey Edmonds his first year,

2051
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: I think you just got to give credit to an

2052
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that saw something that he wanted to take

2053
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: advantage of. Yeah, they did a good job called good plays,

2054
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and I thought I saw early in the game the

2055
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: Bills one of those two interior linebackers to kind of

2056
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: rush the passer a lot of double a a gap

2057
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 1: blitzing stuff. And once maybe when Frank Raik and Nick

2058
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Sriannie saw that, they said, all right, let those guys

2059
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: play in the middle. We'll take it out tonight. I

2060
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: thought a little bit huh yep. And then and they

2061
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 1: did a tremendous job scheme to them. It was a

2062
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: scheme that Uh, you know, listening to some of the

2063
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: guys talking to the locker room afterwards, that they made

2064
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: some just and on the defensive side of the ball,

2065
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: they didn't make the adjustments that they needed to, you know,

2066
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 1: to counteract what they were trying to get done against them.

2067
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to ask you about,

2068
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:09,719
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with the Bill's Colts game,

2069
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: was it's been bothering me and I've heard a lot

2070
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: of discussion about it. Was the fact that the Titans

2071
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: went for two to win the game rather than send

2072
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 1: it to overtime. And unlike a couple of weeks ago

2073
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: when the Titans won a game going for two, this

2074
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: time it didn't go so well and they lost the

2075
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: game because of it. And now the same guy who

2076
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 1: got praised for being courageous is now getting vilified for

2077
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: being an idiot. Yeah, it's I think it's two different situations. Um,

2078
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think this one, you gotta go for

2079
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 1: the one point, You gotta kick the pat and give

2080
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: yourself an opportunity to win the game in overtime. You know,

2081
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 1: I think when I can't remember who it was, it

2082
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: was Frank, I think when they were playing in overtime.

2083
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 1: If they kick it, they're they're guaranteed to have a tie.

2084
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: I think that's a different situation because there's only I

2085
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: think thirty seconds left after going forward on fourth down

2086
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: that you expect your defense to get a hold and

2087
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 1: you're just going to settle for the time. This way,

2088
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to kick the point, go into overtime,

2089
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: and give yourself a chance to win it, you know,

2090
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: in overtime. And I disagree with the decision to go

2091
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: for two to win at this time. I'm glad you

2092
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: say that, Fred I am too, And you know Vrabel,

2093
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 1: I know kind of prances around. I don't think he's

2094
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: an idiot, like Steve said, I didn't call him an idiot.

2095
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 1: I didn't vilify him. But it's a bad call. I mean,

2096
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Speaker 1: he costs his team a chance to get to overtime

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01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: and play to win in overtime. He costs him that.

2098
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Speaker 1: And I know you can, you can stand up and say, well,

2099
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Speaker 1: we're aggressive, we're always going to play to win. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, people don't like to hear it, but before

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Speaker 1: you can win, you have to not lose. And you know,

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Speaker 1: a two point conversion attempt is it's a fifty fifty

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01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: proposition at bests most of the time, especially for that team,

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Speaker 1: for that offense. I believe, what do you think, Well,

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Speaker 1: I get it, but you gotta put in the hands

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Speaker 1: of the players. And I agree too that in the

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01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: second half that game, and this is where I can't

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01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: you kind of throw analytics out, they were carrying the

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Speaker 1: play in the second half of that game. The Titans

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01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: had really gotten back into it and had really dominated.

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Speaker 1: Whereas they were being dominated in the first half, they

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Speaker 1: had gotten the handle on that game in the second half,

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Speaker 1: and I think they had the momentum and you know,

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Speaker 1: they were just playing better. So go to overtime, right exactly,

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think that's what you do in

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01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: that case. You give your team a chance to win

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01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: it outright. Another team that doesn't need to go in

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Speaker 1: overtime is the Kansas City Chiefs. And I've been and Freddie,

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Speaker 1: I've been telling Murph there are two things. There are

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Speaker 1: two teams out there, the Rams and the Chiefs that

2121
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: are mowing people down, I think, and I've been saying,

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Speaker 1: and I told Wade Phillips this yesterday, their biggest challenge

2123
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: is to keep it rolling for two more months at

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Speaker 1: this high level, because that's hard to do. Yeah, well,

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01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: I hope that they do because I think it would

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01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: be a tremendous matchup if the Rams and the Kansas

2127
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs get to the playoffs and get to the

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01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: super Bowl playing each other like they are now, because

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01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you know, a spectacular should to watch.

2130
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: But I agree, that's a huge challenge to be able

2131
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: to continue to play at the high rate that they're

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01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,759
Speaker 1: playing now and uh still continue to put up the points,

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes still continue to play at the level

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Speaker 1: that he's playing. That's gonna be a tremendous challenge for him.

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01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm serious one that he's looking forward

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01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: to attacking head on. But it's gonna be a you know,

2137
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: a hard task or a tall task for him to do.

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Speaker 1: You know. One of the things about many things they

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01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,680
Speaker 1: like about Kansas City obviously Mahomes, but you look at

2140
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: the weapons around him, Fred, you know, Tyrie Hill and

2141
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: the running back at I mean, they they all seem

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01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: to play with like a certain amount of offensive flair,

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01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And obviously they're led by

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01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Mahomes is just firing strikes. But the tight

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01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 1: end Kelsey, they think got players all over the places

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01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: on offense and guys who who really know how to

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01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: get open and make big plays. That's, you know, maybe

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01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 1: their strength. Aside from Mahomes, who was fantastic. Yeah, I think,

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01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing from some tremendous things, obviously for

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01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 1: a second year player. But when you have a guy

2151
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: like Tyree Hill, you got Sammy Walkins, you got Kelsey,

2152
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: you got Kareem Hunt, you got Wilson, all all top

2153
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 1: tier players in this league that you can just throw

2154
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 1: the ball five yards and they can turn a five

2155
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: yard pass into a ninety yard touchdown. It makes anybody's

2156
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: job easy. So in the defense is thinking, you know,

2157
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: we can give up twenty five thirty points and we

2158
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 1: still have a tremendous chance of winning the game because

2159
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 1: we know our offense can put up forty. It makes

2160
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: everybody's job a lot easier. So it's gonna be fun

2161
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: to see what they continue to do throughout the year.

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01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the number one thing for

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01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 1: them is keeping all those guys healthy, because as long

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01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: as they're healthy, they're gonna be the team that everybody

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01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: struggles to contain. Are you surprised at what's going on

2166
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville? They have one of the most talented rosters,

2167
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: certainly one of those dominant defenses. They bench Blake Bordles

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01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: yesterday after three turnovers, and now after getting to the

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01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: championship game a year ago, they're three and four after

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Speaker 1: seven games. Are you surprised? I am, it's not. It's

2171
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: not exactly what we expected those guys to do. You know,

2172
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: we we thought they would come in and continue to

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01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: build off of the foundation that they had last year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's been a little bit of a roller coaster ride

2175
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,640
Speaker 1: for those guys. There's they've been a team that you

2176
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: look at and you see them flying high and they're

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01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 1: doing everything right, and you know Bortles is making plays

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01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: where he's storing you know, four or five touchdowns a game,

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Speaker 1: and then yesterday where you see the doctor, doctor Jeko

2180
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: and mister Hyde of it, where you know he's on

2181
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: the opposite side of it, throwing three picks and getting bent.

2182
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: So I think is when you get some consistency there in,

2183
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: some consistency on defense, you know, especially what they're known for. Uh,

2184
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: they'll be all right now, They'll they'll get it turned around.

2185
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 1: I know those guys are working hard to get that done.

2186
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 1: But it's gonna take everybody, you know, looking at looking

2187
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: themselves in the mirror and thinking going in and being

2188
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: critical of themselves in the film room and getting trying

2189
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: to get that ship turned around. Run the line with

2190
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, former Bill's running back co host of Bills

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Speaker 1: Tonight at eleven thirties on Sundays on the MSG. I'm

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01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 1: gonna ask you a question. I want an honest answer here, Fred,

2193
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: and from you two, Steve. You look at the Ravens.

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01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker had never missed an extra point before missus one.

2195
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: Yesterday the Ravens lose to New Orleans. How the players,

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01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, every down guy. It's like the both of

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01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 1: you were, how do you how do you handle your

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Speaker 1: kicker after that? What do you say to him? What

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Speaker 1: do you think of him? I mean, we talked about

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01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: how Rabel cost his team a chance to get the overtime.

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01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,799
Speaker 1: Tucker did was just a mist extra point. It couldn't

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01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 1: be simpler. What do you think of that? Fred? You know,

2203
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 1: it's it's tough because those guys, we sit back and

2204
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: we talk about it. Ben is simple and it's an

2205
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: easy kick and things like that, But I couldn't do it.

2206
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: So he couldn't go out and carry the ball point

2207
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 1: five times, and I couldn't line up and kick a

2208
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: forty r field goal to send us an overtime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but which is harder to do. Come on, listen though, Fred,

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01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if you we've got this. We're showing

2211
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: it on the screen now. He hit that thing right

2212
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: down the pipe and it got blown out by the wind.

2213
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely sliced at at a thirty degree angle

2214
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: away from where he kicked it. He hit hit it

2215
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: right down the middle, and it got pushed off to

2216
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: the side by the win. So it wasn't like, uh,

2217
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: he shanked it. He hit it solid and it just

2218
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, it just got pushed off. And and that's

2219
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about it is it wasn't his fault.

2220
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: One in his fault that they did not get in

2221
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 1: the overtime. You got to think about it. Look at

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01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 1: there's other players in the game that you know, if defenses,

2223
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 1: if a defensive back breaks up this pass and doesn't

2224
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: get scored here, or a linebacker makes this tackle, you know,

2225
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be in that situation. So there's a lot

2226
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: of things that go into it. But as a player,

2227
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 1: you have that guy's back, just like you know, your

2228
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 1: your offensive guard or your left tackle. Uh, you know,

2229
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: you need those guys down down the stretch, and there's

2230
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a play that, you know, justin Tucker gets

2231
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 1: a chance to win the game and send them into

2232
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 1: a you know, a championship or championship game or a playoff. Uh.

2233
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: They need him to be able to kick as well

2234
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: as he can, you know, obviously being one of the

2235
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: most accurate, if not the most accurate, you know, kicker

2236
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Uh. You you want to keep that

2237
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: guy's head in the game and let him know that

2238
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: you're behind him. One. Yeah, I'm with you, Fred. I

2239
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: mean I've had I've been in a game where a

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Speaker 1: guy missed a kick and we lost too. But it's

2241
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: just like you said, It's just like you said, you know,

2242
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 1: there's a there's plenty of plenty of opportunities everybody had

2243
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: in the fifty nine minutes leading up to that to

2244
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: make a difference in that game as well. And so yeah,

2245
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's a team sport, and you know,

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01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 1: the guy has been has been absolutely phenomenal for them

2247
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: for a long long time. So, uh yeah, you can.

2248
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: I think they can extend him some grace. Fred. One

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01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: more question for before I let you go. And you've

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01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: been in tough spots like this with the Buffalo Bills.

2251
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 1: They've lost two in a row, one by a close margin,

2252
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 1: the second by not close at all. You know where

2253
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: they are with the quarterbacks. You know, you know how

2254
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: well the defense was playing. How do they put it

2255
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 1: back together? And what do you recall about your career?

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01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 1: Is the best way to put it back together after

2257
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: a difficult loss like yesterday? Oh man, it's it's actually

2258
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: not hard at all. For all those guys. They're all competitors,

2259
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, they're all at the pinnacle of this sport.

2260
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 1: They play in the NFL. And the best thing that

2261
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: could happen for him is they got Tom Brady and

2262
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots coming in here on Monday night.

2263
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: And you want everybody to forget about what happened to

2264
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: you last week. The best way to do that is

2265
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: to go out and perform well Monday night against Tom

2266
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: Brady and get a win. You know, when you do that,

2267
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: you go out and put your best foot forward and

2268
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,879
Speaker 1: you get a win against Tom Brady, that's what everybody

2269
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 1: will be talking about, and they'll say, you know, this

2270
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: team has a legit chance of you know, turning things around,

2271
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: and that's what they want to get done. And that's

2272
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: what I'm sure all the players in the locker room

2273
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: are talking about. They obviously they got to go in

2274
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 1: and watch film and get all this flushed, this out

2275
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: of their system. But if I'm a captain and it's

2276
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: what I would do, I would say, look, man, we

2277
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: we did not play our best, but we have an

2278
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: opportunity to show everybody what we're about as a Buffalo Bills,

2279
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: as a as a football team as a whole. With

2280
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the New England Patriots coming here on

2281
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: Monday night, let's saw everybody what we can be capable

2282
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: of doing. He's right, isn't he, Steven? I mean that

2283
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 1: a win, as unlikely as it may sound, a win

2284
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: against the Patriots would race virtually all the negativity of

2285
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: this week, right it would it would That would be

2286
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: a That would be the wonder tonic. Hey, Fred, thanks

2287
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. We'll see you soon. Thanks.

2288
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys. Fred Jackson yep. Former Bills running

2289
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: back Fred Jackson, co host of Bills Tonight. You can

2290
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: catch that show on MSG Sunday nights eleven thirty. Mike

2291
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Catalina and Fred breakdown the Bills efforts every Sunday with

2292
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: assistance from some locker room sound and a lot of

2293
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: highlights of the game. Bills Tonight eleven thirty on MSG

2294
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: with Fred Jackson and Mike Calina. Stephen I coming back

2295
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 1: with more. One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. That's a

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Speaker 1: new music today. We needed it. One goes live from

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Speaker 1: One Mill's Drive. That's a little inside baseball for you folks.

2299
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Speaker 1: See what do you think the World Series? Dodgers and

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Speaker 1: uh Red Sox wouldn't care they start started yet the

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Speaker 1: only guy in America who doesn't like baseball? The only one?

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Speaker 1: think I'm the only guy. Most people at least have

2304
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: a in the World Series, at least Steve the World Series.

2305
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: Nothing from you, nothing like Oh. When I was probably

2306
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: people most people your age would say, oh, used to

2307
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 1: bring the transistor radio into class and I would listen

2308
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 1: with me, most people your age, my age, that's what

2309
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: we did. Or if you get your work done, the

2310
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: teacher would wheel in the big TV and you'd watch

2311
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: a little World World Series. Yeah, they were all afternoons.

2312
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 1: It was great. I'm a little older than you. You

2313
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: don't recall that, but most people have that baseball experience

2314
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: in their background and a little bit of fondness for

2315
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: America's national past. Guys, I enjoyed playing it as a kid. Yeah,

2316
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 1: but nothing about major League Baseball. Not a fan. Oh no,

2317
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't move fast enough for me. It's a little

2318
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's a little concerning. It's yeah, it's

2319
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 1: not good. Our Twitter poll today we want to know,

2320
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 1: and there was plenty not good about the Bills performance yesterday.

2321
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: Let's see how we're doing on Twitter. We asked the question,

2322
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 1: you took the cough switch, so I'm gonna call. We

2323
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: asked the question, what was the most troubling aspect of

2324
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: Sunday's Bills performance against the Colts, And there's look a

2325
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: laundry list. Right there's plenty that was troubling. But right now,

2326
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: forty seven percent of you say the fact that it

2327
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,719
Speaker 1: was another blowout loss, and it was right. The Bills

2328
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,719
Speaker 1: average margin of defeat this year and their five defeats

2329
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 1: is twenty three points. Another one yesterday, twenty seven percent

2330
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: of you say the performance of the defense was most troubling.

2331
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: Ninth percent of you say nineteen percent of you say

2332
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: the five offensive turnovers was most troubling, seven percent say

2333
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: something else. Let's hear what you think eight oh three

2334
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: oh five fifty and toll free from outside Buffalo one

2335
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:57,560
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty from the

2336
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, Let's go do a dead drought f twenty nine.

2337
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: He chose his other as the most troubling aspect. He said,

2338
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 1: I hate losses as a fan, but realistically I expected

2339
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:09,400
Speaker 1: this to be an up and down season. Mostly down.

2340
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: Some fans are now wanting the coach end or GM fired,

2341
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 1: as if they inherited a super Bowl ready team. It

2342
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: takes more than two years to overhaul the roster and

2343
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: fix the cap. It's kind of a realistic, hard edged

2344
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: look at where the Bills are at. I think Steve

2345
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,679
Speaker 1: Well and that, yeah, we don't talk too much about

2346
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: the cap, but they did get that straightened out. And

2347
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 1: one of the problems with straighten out the capital The

2348
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: way they did was they got and we hadn't even

2349
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 1: a call about it today, and it's been a while

2350
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: since we've heard it from from that crew of fans

2351
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: out there who chime in and say, hey, we could

2352
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: have had Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins and Marky's Goodwin

2353
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: and Marcel Darius, you know, and those contracts and resigned

2354
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: those guys and spend the money to keep them. But

2355
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 1: to get the cap in line with where they're at

2356
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 1: with the players they wanted to use and the draft

2357
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: capital and start building for something they felt was sustainable,

2358
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 1: they cleared out all that stuff and started from scratch.

2359
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, they are going to have eighty five

2360
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: million or so million dollars to spend next year in

2361
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: free agency and to resign the players on their roster

2362
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: now to extend players or get rid of players and

2363
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 1: bring other players in. And it'll be interesting to see

2364
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: how they use that. And that's part of the reason

2365
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 1: why they're struggling now. They did get rid of some

2366
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: pretty good players, although you can make a case for

2367
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, for some of those guys

2368
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: are probably better off without them, but you know, it's

2369
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. How are you going to know?

2370
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: But that's the philosophy they've done and it is going

2371
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: to take time to get them to where they want

2372
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 1: to be with this crew. Here's something from the tweet

2373
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 1: sheet that is thought provoking, I think from James Francis Crelevitz.

2374
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: We really need to start listening to offers for McCoy, Calvin,

2375
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: Benjamin and Clay. I don't even consider a tanking. These

2376
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: guys are not These guys not being on the field

2377
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 1: won't make a difference in our record. It's about seeing

2378
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: what we have around Allen up and down the roster. Well, okay,

2379
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm willing to listen to that. We are what eight

2380
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 1: days away from the trade deadline, and I agree, you

2381
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: gotta be open and I just think, especially when it

2382
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: comes to receivers, trading some away, picking some new guys up,

2383
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 1: I am totally open to that. I would I don't

2384
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: And again, eight days away there, what are you gonna

2385
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: get for those guys? Right? That's one meltdraft picks I

2386
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: think you'll have to settle for. I don't want him

2387
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: to completely dismantle the offense because when he plays again,

2388
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: I do want Josh Allen to have something to work

2389
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 1: with so we can get an accurate some agen where

2390
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: he's at something to work with. He clearly has no

2391
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: receivers that are you know, have done anything to indicate

2392
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 1: that he can work with them. But Charles clay Well,

2393
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 1: Sean McCoy, I'd like to have I'd like to have

2394
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: something to work with around uh Josh Allen. And again,

2395
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: I repeat, as ridiculous as it probably sounds today, I

2396
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: still think they're gonna win six or seven, which won't

2397
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 1: get you anything, won't get you the you know, the

2398
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Red ribbon, let alone the Blue Ribbon. But I think

2399
01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: there's value in winning when you can. What do you

2400
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: think of trade deadline eight days away? What do you think?

2401
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they made some moves, but

2402
01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't think it's gonna

2403
01:56:59,960 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 1: be earth shattering. You know, they're not gonna They're not

2404
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna gonna break the bank or pull in

2405
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 1: some guy off, you know, off another team that that

2406
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 1: another team is gonna make this team significantly better for

2407
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 1: the rest of this season. Um, and what am I talking?

2408
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 1: What are you talking about with McCoy and and Kelvin

2409
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Benjamin Charles Clay and get a sixth round draft pick,

2410
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: a third round, you know, seventh round, the third round,

2411
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: does you know? I mean, you know, I'd rather have

2412
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: those guys on the team than than a third round

2413
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: or that. I don't know who the guy's gonna be.

2414
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be okay, maybe he'll get cut, maybe he'll

2415
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: be a practice squad player. I don't know. I think

2416
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see where they're at. Maybe it'll

2417
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 1: tell us something about where they perceive they're at by

2418
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: the moves they make, um that we don't know now,

2419
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: that might I might find that interesting. Yeah, I'd like

2420
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: to see a little more of the season before I

2421
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: totally jump into the trade market. Let's see Pat on

2422
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: the line from Rochester. Pat, go ahead your point please? Yeah?

2423
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: My first of all, I want to say, Steve, you

2424
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. There it is.

2425
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: You don't hear that enough? You should Hall of Fame

2426
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 1: favorites for Steve Tasker talking about I'm sorry what that

2427
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: I said. My point was exactly what you guys are

2428
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: talking about about getting rid of McCoy and trading him

2429
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia or whatever. But now I'm gonna have to

2430
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 1: switch gears, and I'm thinking to myself, Yes, you're right.

2431
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: The defense, you know, drop yesterday, Okay, but there's still

2432
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: a good defense. There's still a good nucleus. And I

2433
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: think maybe that that we can write it out next

2434
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 1: year when we got a lot more cap money and

2435
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 1: we can pick up receivers, then get a good draft

2436
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: pick maybe, you know, and then keep keep addling, like

2437
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: you said, keep addling in the game so at least

2438
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: he you know, at least he picks up some experience. Man,

2439
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: question for you, if you want to write it out, Pat,

2440
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: why are you looking to trade McCoy because it's seeing

2441
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: him getting a better draft pick. Before they were talking

2442
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 1: about a second and a third not gonna happen. Maybe

2443
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 1: a third is Yeah, I know, I think maybe a

2444
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: third might work, okay, especially since Philadelphia want them. Yeah,

2445
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 1: all right, And I wouldn't just for me, and I'll

2446
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 1: let you continue, Pat, unless it's a third, at least

2447
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 1: a third. I would not entertain any offers for lachan,

2448
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Pat, Oh, I wouldn't either. No, I

2449
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't either. I would think the third's got to be yet.

2450
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: But um. The other thing I was thinking about though,

2451
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: was that they got um the nucleus of the like

2452
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: I said, of their defense, is still gonna be there

2453
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 1: next year. Okay. Yeah, And I think maybe with you know,

2454
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: like I said, with Alan being in the game, like

2455
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 1: you said, as long as his injuries and this bes

2456
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, I think maybe he might be

2457
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:02,120
Speaker 1: able to u you know, get some experience. He needs

2458
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: to learn to read defenses. That's the other thing lacks

2459
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, you know, I don't know. He goes

2460
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: he's in the coverage and well, Pat, he's a he's

2461
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. That's what they do. They try and

2462
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 1: force it in there. They can't read defenses, and everything

2463
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: happens too fast for him, and they tend to hold

2464
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:25,040
Speaker 1: onto the football too much, throw to the wrong guy,

2465
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 1: or force the wrong guy, or stare down their receiver.

2466
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is on the table. And we've

2467
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,680
Speaker 1: seen all of that from Josh Allen at times. And

2468
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: and the question is do you throw him in, you know,

2469
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: do you throw him in the game and let him

2470
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: sink or swim, or do you let him sit back

2471
02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: and sit behind a guy like Derek Anderson and watch

2472
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 1: what he does. And even if he's healthy. It looks

2473
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: to me it sounds like there's a lot of fans

2474
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,000
Speaker 1: out there who think that should have been their plan

2475
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 1: from the beginning. If they had signed Derek Anderson four

2476
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 1: months before they did and have him playing at this

2477
02:00:57,840 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 1: level that we saw him play last week without the

2478
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: turno was of course that they would still be happy

2479
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: let Josh Allen sit behind and watch Derek Anderson play,

2480
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 1: no matter what their record is, and let Josh Allen

2481
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: learn that way so that when he does get in,

2482
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 1: he's had some enough time to kind of get acclimated

2483
02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 1: to what an NFL quarterback looks like on and off

2484
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 1: the field before he actually has to be one. And

2485
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: then there's the other group of fans that says, forget that,

2486
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 1: throw that guy in there. He's gonna learn more, and

2487
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna learn faster by taking the snaps himself. So

2488
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: whichever camp you fall into, it looks like maybe now

2489
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 1: for the first time this last week, the Bills got

2490
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 1: to the point where they could make a choice about

2491
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: those two things. There is a veteran quarterback on the

2492
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 1: roster who could let Josh Allen sit and watch him play,

2493
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 1: or they could do what they were doing before Derek

2494
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 1: Anderson showed up, put Josh Allen in the game and

2495
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:55,080
Speaker 1: sink or swim with him and let him figure it

2496
02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: out while he's taken the snaps. So whichever camp you're in,

2497
02:01:59,560 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what camp the Bills coaching

2498
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: staff falls into, because Josh Allen is going to be

2499
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: healthy and if and if not this week in a

2500
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:09,720
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Thanks Bat. Here's a call from Ray

2501
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 1: in Rochester. Hello, Ray, go ahead, you're on the air, Hi, guys.

2502
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:18,920
Speaker 1: I was actually encouraged to tackle off really, I though

2503
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy. It does. Yeah, Ray, You're crazy, go ahead,

2504
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 1: join the party. Looked okay in the first quarter, and

2505
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:29,080
Speaker 1: I was encouraged by what the offense was doing. And

2506
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:31,480
Speaker 1: then the wheels came off when Clay dropped the ball.

2507
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: Because after that, between the defense disintegrating and the penalties

2508
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 1: which killed us even March, things kind of got back

2509
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 1: to normal in the second half. Now, they were very average,

2510
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: that he said, and you can't expect him to be

2511
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 1: stallard like that were last week. Every week I think

2512
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 1: there was just average. I thought they were less than

2513
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 1: the average, to be honest with you, Ray, I mean

2514
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 1: two hundred twenty yards on the grounds. That's too much.

2515
02:02:57,800 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 1: I guess the team that didn't run the football very

2516
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 1: well coming into the game, and yeah, that was They're

2517
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 1: they're playing against a one in five football team that

2518
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 1: had not shown up very much in the first part

2519
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 1: of the season and didn't look that good. But I

2520
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. I mean, there are some things

2521
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: that you saw from Derek Anderson the offense before it

2522
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 1: got out of hand. When it got out of hand,

2523
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: it got out of hand fast. And whatever we whatever

2524
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: good things Murph and I have said about Derek Anderson

2525
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 1: or the broadcast during this show today, and there were

2526
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 1: some good you know, this kind of what we thought

2527
02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 1: we were going to get. Accept you know, it's like

2528
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 1: always they can't turn it over and win. Well, they're

2529
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,160
Speaker 1: just so weak they have no margin of error. And

2530
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: it's right, teams aren't, you know, turnovers or defensive lapses

2531
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 1: because they scored the average twelve points a game. Turnovers

2532
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: are what er what put Nate Peterman in the position

2533
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: with Bills fans he is now either he love him

2534
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 1: or hate him. He turns it over too much, and

2535
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 1: that's what you know, that's what it ended up happening,

2536
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 1: except that Derrick Anderson, through his you know, had those

2537
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 1: five turnovers over the course of four quarters and not

2538
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 1: a quarter and a half. Call here from Bill and

2539
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: Archard Park Hello Bill, go ahead, Hi guys, I have

2540
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,879
Speaker 1: to be a devil's advocate a little bit here against

2541
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:16,320
Speaker 1: our coach. I think he gave up on his process

2542
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 1: because I know that he didn't have your veteran quarterback

2543
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 1: in there. But he did say as a man earlier,

2544
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 1: was talking about that he was going to have a

2545
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: quarterback competition, and I'm going to say Peterman won the competition.

2546
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: I agree that he had a lot of interceptions, but

2547
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 1: I also have to say, look at the position he

2548
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,840
Speaker 1: was in and what's how much time did he have

2549
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 1: and how many timeouts were left on that game when

2550
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:46,040
Speaker 1: he threw the last two interceptions and calling it to

2551
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:49,640
Speaker 1: go to the outside, where again that's his weakest side. Also,

2552
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 1: I have to think, who is this receiver coach? I mean,

2553
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: these guys don't get open to save their lives. So

2554
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: I think Peter. I think that the coach McDermott when

2555
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 1: he said he was going to continue with that, I

2556
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:08,640
Speaker 1: think he got pressured by public number one, possibly by

2557
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 1: facula and of course by the media about getting this

2558
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 1: Peterman out of there. No, I think, with all due respect,

2559
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing ghosts. And what I know about

2560
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 1: John McDermott, he didn't care about what the media says.

2561
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 1: And I'll go I'll list him in order. He doesn't

2562
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: care about what the media says. He why, sorry, can

2563
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 1: I respond? I don't think Sean responds to what the

2564
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 1: media says, and I don't think public pressure means anything

2565
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 1: to him either. But go ahead, you're still talking. Go ahead? Yeah,

2566
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 1: why did he give up on his process? Then? That

2567
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 1: process was to have somebody behind him that knew the playbook.

2568
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 1: And definitely, I know Peterman knew the playbook a lot

2569
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 1: better than Josh Allen. One answer, all sudden, I know

2570
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 1: that he has to re interception. That's the answer. You know,

2571
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,920
Speaker 1: you have to have patience. You have to have that

2572
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks. That's what he said all the time.

2573
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 1: We got a young team, we have to be patient.

2574
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 1: Well guess what, out of six he played six games

2575
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 1: and bank he's out. The process does not include they

2576
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: put in a guy didn't play any game. Well, listen,

2577
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Bill, But Listen to this.

2578
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:15,880
Speaker 1: Don't forget how they got to this point. Nathan Peterman. Listen,

2579
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:20,160
Speaker 1: it was spectacularly bad. And what happens is it goes

2580
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 1: bad so fast they can't recover. And even Josh Allen

2581
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 1: didn't turn it over at the same rate that Peterman did.

2582
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 1: So the thought is that Allen was playing every bit

2583
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 1: as good as Nathan Peterman did. And listen, let's face it,

2584
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman and Josh Allen except and you're right, Bill,

2585
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback competition was flat out won by Nate Peterman.

2586
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,840
Speaker 1: But once they get into games, there has been no

2587
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 1: discernible difference. In fact, it's been in Josh Allen's favor

2588
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 1: the way the games have gone. When they played, Allan

2589
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 1: doesn't turn it over, and he's still making some throws

2590
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 1: and he's making about the same amount of throws a

2591
02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 1: Peterman's making. So that's how we got to this. I mean,

2592
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 1: it goes so spectacularly bad for Peterman at times they

2593
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 1: can't allow it to give him the chance to do

2594
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,040
Speaker 1: that anymore. So, I mean, I mean, I get what

2595
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 1: you're saying. Peterman. He did all this stuff to get

2596
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 1: on the field, and to say that he blew it

2597
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 1: so fast it's kind of hard to swallow for some

2598
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 1: guys who like him or fans of his, But that's

2599
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: what happened. I mean, it went bad so fast for

2600
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: Peterman on a couple of different occasions that they can't

2601
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 1: go back there. And Josh Allen is too good physically

2602
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 1: and has shown too much so far to say he's

2603
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 1: that big of a step back from Peterman. So I

2604
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 1: mean that's where we're at. I mean, you and I

2605
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:47,600
Speaker 1: we've gotten I'm surprised because whenever Peterman gets in there

2606
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 1: after those games, when he invariably gets benched, I mean,

2607
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 1: people are so mad at him. I mean, it is

2608
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 1: so bad at times for Peterman that you know, it's

2609
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 1: hard to believe callers like you Bill that call in

2610
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: and want to see him again. I mean, it's it's

2611
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 1: almost impossible to fathom the morning after the games that

2612
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 1: he starts him getting another shot. And yet we've we've

2613
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 1: been taking calls last weekend now today as well for

2614
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 1: people saying they don't it's like they don't remember how

2615
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 1: bad it got with him, And I mean, so I

2616
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: get it. But here's the thing. Josh Allen gives you

2617
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 1: a chance to get better. Down the road because of

2618
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: his physical abilities that he brings to the table that

2619
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:36,200
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman just cannot match. No matter how good he

2620
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: plays in practice, no matter how well he knows the offense,

2621
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,879
Speaker 1: his arm is never gonna be as good as Josh Allen's.

2622
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be as fast as athletic he's, you know.

2623
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 1: So he's never gonna have the upside that Josh Allen does.

2624
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get to this point eventually, and by

2625
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 1: putting him back in, you just seem to delay that.

2626
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know why. Okay, thanks for re called

2627
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 1: Bill Building. You didn't care about my response anyway. So yeah,

2628
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 1: he just gotta keep talking. Don't let him get jack,

2629
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 1: But he's I gotta tell you, I was thinking about

2630
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 1: it over the weekend. We got a bunch of calls

2631
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 1: last week about they play Peterman, and I can't believe

2632
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 1: people get back to that so fast. It takes them

2633
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: a while, I guess a couple of weeks. NFL True

2634
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 1: or False, Speaking of quarterbacks. NFL True or False is

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02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artists and

2636
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: Cheese Jacksonville Jaguars, who are in trouble. Right, the Jaguars

2637
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 1: have lost three in a row. Do I have that right? Yeah?

2638
02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:30,360
Speaker 1: They have. Jaguars have lost three in a row, and

2639
02:09:30,440 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: yesterday they benched their quarterback Blake Bortles. Texas beat Jacksonville

2640
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 1: twenty to seven. So the Jaguars need to find a

2641
02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: new quarterback this season. True? False? I say true. And

2642
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 1: by the way, the deadline is eight days away. And

2643
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 1: what about Tyrod Taylor? He could be their guy? Right?

2644
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 1: What about what about Sam Bradford? They might be ready

2645
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 1: to trade him. What they really need is Leonard Fournette.

2646
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:55,480
Speaker 1: But sure, they need to find a new quarterback. True,

2647
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 1: I say true to that? What do I say? True

2648
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 1: as well? I say true? I think and I think

2649
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 1: it could happen with Tom Coughlin. And a lot of

2650
02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 1: people have been saying, and I said it too. Eli

2651
02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 1: Manning in New York with Tom Coughlin in the history

2652
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:09,760
Speaker 1: they have together, Tom Coughlin might make New New York

2653
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 1: and offer. He may have some faith in Eli. That'd

2654
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: be a huge deal. Now if he doesn't, if he

2655
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 1: doesn't make that move, if he don't inquire about it,

2656
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 1: maybe he knows something that the New York Giants are

2657
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 1: finding out, you know, maybe that he count listen, the

2658
02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 1: Jags need a new quarterback. Well, when are you were

2659
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:28,480
Speaker 1: there with me? We're watching up and when he Rex

2660
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:31,640
Speaker 1: brought up Tyrode, Rex, Ryan thought he could go down there,

2661
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 1: might help him. Right. Well, he said that one thing

2662
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 1: that Tyrode does, he doesn't turn it over, right, I don't.

2663
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to get I don't want to get it.

2664
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:43,040
Speaker 1: You're right, that seems to make some sense at some level.

2665
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 1: NFL True or Falls presented by Yancy's Fancy New York's

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02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 1: Artist in Chief Steve and I back with more. One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2668
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 1: What do we learn from today's show? I learned a

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Speaker 1: lot today. This is presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills from our guests, including Chris Brown Bills

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Speaker 1: Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com. We learned his thoughts on

2674
02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:28,800
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson's performance against the Indianapolis Colts. I thought, from

2675
02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 1: a functionality standpoint, the offense was functional. For the most part,

2676
02:11:35,680 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 1: he got the ball out in rhythm on time, as

2677
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 1: evidenced by the plays that his receivers were able to

2678
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 1: able to make. Kelvin Benjamin made more plays in this

2679
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:48,960
Speaker 1: game than any other game this season. You know, they

2680
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 1: weren't good on third down, but you know, I felt

2681
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 1: that he was moving the offense. I mean, they moved

2682
02:11:56,840 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 1: into Indianapolis territory. I think on three of their first possessions.

2683
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 1: The problem was two of the three they turned the

2684
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 1: ball over once they got to that side of the field.

2685
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,160
Speaker 1: They Chris Brown joined us. Also today we heard from

2686
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, former Bills running back, and we asked Fred

2687
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:13,080
Speaker 1: what the Colts did to run for two hundred and

2688
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 1: twenty yards. What did their rushing offense look like against

2689
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:19,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's defense yesterday. One of the things that

2690
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 1: I saw that they were doing, they were cutting the line.

2691
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 1: They were they were making gaps in the defense. Uh so,

2692
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 1: they were they were pulling lineman and they were cutting

2693
02:12:28,360 --> 02:12:30,720
Speaker 1: off guys so that they couldn't run over the top.

2694
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:32,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that the

2695
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:35,240
Speaker 1: Bills linebackers are really good at, is running over the

2696
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 1: top and filling holes and they weren't able to do that,

2697
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:40,080
Speaker 1: and when they got those guys cut off, it just

2698
02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:42,040
Speaker 1: made for huge running lanes and they were getting through.

2699
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 1: And I think that was just something that maybe the

2700
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator saw With two young linebackers out there, and

2701
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 1: Matt Malano believe this is his second year and you know,

2702
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 1: Trey Edmonds is his first year. I think you just

2703
02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:57,400
Speaker 1: got to give credit to an offensive coordinator that saw

2704
02:12:57,480 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 1: something that he wanted to take advantage of. Ray Jackson.

2705
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 1: What have we learned from today show? I'll tell you

2706
02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 1: what I learned, Steve, and I guess I knew this

2707
02:13:03,840 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 1: mostly from the calls, somewhat from Twitter, although Twitter is

2708
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:10,080
Speaker 1: usually a lesser content. I learned that as tough as

2709
02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 1: these losses have been, Bills fans really care. And I

2710
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 1: love that about Bills fans. They really care and are

2711
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 1: very upset about the nature of that loss yesterday, about

2712
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:21,720
Speaker 1: the margin of defeat, and are deeply concerned about the

2713
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:24,520
Speaker 1: future direction, and that is invaluable. I appreciate that, and

2714
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,839
Speaker 1: I get that all of your calls, some of your tweets,

2715
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 1: I understand how it indicates how deeply you feel about

2716
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 1: the team, and I'm interested you are in it and

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02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,160
Speaker 1: I love that we need Yeah, And we get a

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Speaker 1: lot of calls from Peel And it's funny too because

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Speaker 1: you and I've been sitting here together since last April,

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Speaker 1: or through the draft, through preseason, through Ota all that,

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Speaker 1: and we've walked through this whole thing step by step

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Speaker 1: with this process that everybody laughs about and talks about

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Speaker 1: and makes fun of him about it, you know, buys

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Speaker 1: into and they've by the calls and the and the

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Speaker 1: tweets we get. People have walked along with us. They

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Speaker 1: know every step of the way and how we've gotten

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Speaker 1: to where we've gotten and and they're in it with us.

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Speaker 1: Process isn't over hanging there as long as you can.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for our production assistant George Glass, Jeff Coltnick Thomas Holder,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, j J Jurito, Kevin Cartis, James Robot, our

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris. Seeing tomorrow at noon with One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive