1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: So just let's get right into it. Then, who you 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: got in the finals? 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Bro, Ah, don't do me like that killing. Don't do 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 2: that to me. Don't do that. 5 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: I can't answer that question. 6 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: I don't do that to me. It's just getting started, 7 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: just getting my glasses off. Don't do that. 8 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Who are you picking in the final? 9 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Who you got? I ask you first. That's the easy answer. 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: It's the answer, I'll be honest, though, it's not the 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: easy answer because think it's gonna be way better than 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: people think it's going to be. I just think, okay, see, 13 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I just think, okay. See at the end of the day, listen, 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: I think Indiana. I think Indiana is a lot a 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: lot better. And they said it on TV. In fact, 16 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I love my man Wendy. He says it on TV. 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: He says, like, if you break down Indiana from when 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: they started getting rolling, after they got healthy, they were 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: like basically like the number one team. 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: In the East. Yes, they ended the season that last 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: month month and a half leading to the playoffs. They 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: were wanting the best and. 23 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: They're rolling right now. So this this series is gonna 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: be a lot better. So it's not the easy answer. 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot better people think. 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: I just think Okay, okay See won both matchups this 27 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: year head the head. But I just really believe okay 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: See because I caush to say this because I am 29 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: the guy that's been in the Indiana locker room. I've 30 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: been in the Indiana locker room, so I know what 31 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: that feels like. So for me to for me to 32 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: pick okay See and go, I guess my own kind 33 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: doesn't feel good to me. So so do I think 34 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: okay See is going to win? Probably so? But I'm 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: always inclined to root for the underdog. 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do this then, since you don't always. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: Incline, I'm always inclined to root for the underdog. 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: If okay See wins it, why And if Indiana wins it, 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: why you're done with the seven game series? They said, Okay, 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers won, You're gonna say, why do the Okay, 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: this is why they won. 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: If okay See wins it, I'll just say they win 43 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: it because they were the better team. They were the 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: better team from top to bottom. I think they were 45 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: the better team. But if Indiana wins it, I would 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: say they were the better coach team because Rick Carlisle 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: has done it before, so maybe his experience, maybe him 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: doing this before, can come into play. 49 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: You got a lot more experience over there to a 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: coach and the pastal championship team. 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so when I look over there, I can say, 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: these are the guys that have done it before and 53 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: have been there before, and for that they have somewhat 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: of an edge. And then also, you got that chip 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: on your shoulder, what the world's telling you you're not good enough? 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: So those are things that Indiana can use to win it. 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: And if okay see wins it at the end of 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: the day, I think we all just feel like they're 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: the better team from top to bottom. 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, if we sit here in three weeks 61 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: and the Pacers had won, i' musa say they made 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: it chaotic and fast. I think the experience definitely does 63 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: have something to do with it. But they cannot turn 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: this into a muddy basketball game. And okay see is 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: is is? 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: You know? 67 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: As good as they score the basketball, they're built defensively, yes, 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: and for easy baskets. And if Indiana can, if they 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: if Indiana is getting stops and getting out and running, 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna turn into a game that okay See is 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: not completely can comfortable with because you're not gonna let 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Caruso and Lou Door and Case and Walls get up 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: underneath Jalen will get up underneath you ninety four feet, 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: pick you up, pick you up where you're down. It's 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: gonna come down to if this game plays like this 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: or if it comes into us, which, let's be honest, 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, it's gonna turn into a half court basketball game. 78 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: But that benefits okay See in my opinion. 79 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: On a thousand, But I will say this still killing. 80 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: This is the one thing I was thinking about if 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: there was one team that could go up and down 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: with them saying they want to. But if it's one 83 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: team that's that can do that, I don't. You got 84 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: your man, I don't. 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. I just think though, if if, 86 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: if it if. That's why I think okay Shoe and 87 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: when series, because I think they can win it in 88 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: different ways. I think Indiana can only win it in 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: one way. 90 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: In my opinion, he is the only team that can 91 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: win on both sides. 92 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Yes, they can. They can. They can turn this into 93 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: a money game and they can beat you because they're more. 94 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: They're probably a little more talented. But if that starts 95 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: getting kiaotok and they're finding pace and it's them hard 96 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: and these and that ball's popping and boom boom boom, 97 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden going into you know, how hard 98 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: is winning Indiana? It's gonna be awesome. Environments young teams 99 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: on the road in the NBA Finals are gonna be 100 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: very intriguing, Let's be honest. So hey, listen, when you 101 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: said it's the easy answer, it's not because I I 102 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: really do like a lot about this Indiana team. I 103 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be an absolute better series, and people 104 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be based especially based on what the 105 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: odds are saying. 106 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: My heart story heart goes, my heart goes with the underdog. 107 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: My mind wants to say, okay, see my heart goes 108 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: with the underdog. 109 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: So the Halla, Burton and Shay do you think that's 110 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna be as like? Is it gonna be? 111 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: See when you say Haller Burt versus Shay, I don't 112 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: think they're going to guard each other, you know, I 113 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: don't think they're going to guard each other. Honestly, you know. 114 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: I don't think, Yeah, you're probably actually think that. 115 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to guard each other. I wouldn't. Yeah, 116 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. You know what I'm saying. 117 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: Why would you put shade? I put started j put 118 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: yeah exactly, So I don't think they're going to guard 119 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: each other. 120 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: Who's shake Garden on the other end, Pascal. 121 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: No, I think you put on on maybe Nie Smith? 122 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: You put on Smith? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 123 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 2: But what I will say is two completely different basketball players. 124 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Oh yes, a completely different basket, completely different basketball players, 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: but both you could tell that guys enjoy playing with them. 126 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: You can tell that they play the game the right way, 127 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: and they're both the the head of the snake on 128 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: their teams offensively. As great as Pascal was, and you know, 129 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: shout out to him for being the Eastern Conference Finals. 130 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: M v P. 131 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: Treats my son. You know, he had a chance to 132 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: meet my kids and treated him like he knew him 133 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: his whole life. Great dude, So I was happy for him. 134 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, in that finals, 135 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers are gonna go as Hallam Burton goes. 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 137 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: So you're your your X factor in Indiana for the Pacers, 138 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: not xpector because he's their best player. I mean he's 139 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the All Star. 140 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, well well only only and only say that because 141 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: you know it's not going to be about his scoring, 142 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 2: but it's going to be about you know, he sets 143 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: the pace his playmaking. 144 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: So Indiana's most important player is Halliburton. Yes, who's Okay, 145 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be their best player. But I think in 146 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: this series, the most important player might be Jalen. I 147 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: think j Dubb is gonna be the most important player 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: in this series. And I think what people we don't 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: understand two things can be true. One guy can be 150 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: your best player. Another guy can be your most important player. 151 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: Another guy can be your toughest player. Another guy can 152 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: be your leader. Another guy can be your smartest player. 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Like this is different guy for that For me, is 154 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you can book what she is going 155 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: to give you. Yes, yes, if Jalen, If Jalen gives 156 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: you those, If you're if. 157 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: You're in that locker room and you're preparing right now 158 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: to go against the OKC Thunder, you're probably taking I 159 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: ain't gonna say completely taking Shaye out of the Scout report. 160 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: But you're saying to yourself, we can probably book him 161 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: for twenty five to thirty. 162 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: We got to stop only Yes, the only thing you're 163 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: saying is Shaye in my opinion right now is let's 164 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: let's try to make him stay him off like everything 165 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: that says you take him aultiphile line and make him innefficient. Right, 166 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: A lot easier said than done. Yes, what is our 167 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: what is our coverage going to be in pick and roll? 168 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: And that's really it? 169 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 170 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Right like those after that, it's okay. Now, now how 171 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: do I take out that second guy? 172 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: Yes? 173 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: And That's where I'm at with Jaalen, like, how do 174 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: you take him? You take your second if they take 175 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: the second guy out and Jalen struggles to score. 176 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: And even though even though Indiana is not as good 177 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: of a defensive team as Minnesota is, I think there'll 178 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: be more discipline in these finals because a lot of 179 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: times when I was watching Minnesota, I guess, okay, see, 180 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: they weren't very disciplined at times defensively. I mean they 181 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: would slip out of picking rolls and the big would 182 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: go with the slip man and Shay would just turn 183 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: the corner and get downhill. Just basic stuff where I'm 184 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: saying you should not be making mistakes on slips in 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: the Western Conference finals. I don't think you're gonna that. 186 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't think Rick Carlisle is gonna allow Indiana to 187 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: make those kind of mistakes. And if they do, I 188 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: know they got a vet on the bench that's gonna 189 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: hold them accountable. So I don't think they're gonna make 190 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: those kind of mistakes. So even though Minnesota might be 191 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: the better defensive team, I think Indiana is not gonna 192 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: make the same mistakes that Minnesota made, and they'll be more. 193 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: They'll be Definitely you're a little tougher. I'm just telling 194 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: you because you're dealing with a team, because you're dealing 195 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: with a team, because you're dealing with a team killer 196 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: that has spent majority of the year. Understand that we 197 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: have very little room for error. We understand how we 198 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: need to play to win. We understand how we're gonna 199 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: play the win, and we understand we don't have a 200 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: very much room for error. And I've been on the 201 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: other side in that locker room of that kind of team, 202 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: so you understand how you need to play to win games. 203 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: There's no we're gonna throw at the wall and see 204 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: if it stick for forty eight minutes and see if 205 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: we win. No, we have to play this way. We 206 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 2: have to do this, and this is how we're gonna win. 207 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: And there's no other option. And I've seen teams like that. 208 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: I ain't picking nobody. Who you picking. 209 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: I just told you. 210 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: I just told you. My head says okay. See my 211 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: heart says Indiana, I can't be what's wrong with that? 212 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Chop my head off and then you can have okay. 213 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: See that's all I got for you. 214 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Man. I think it's gonna be really good. Seriously, it's 215 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna be. 216 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: A very it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be exciting. 217 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun. I think it's 218 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 2: gonna be some point score. I think it's gonna be 219 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: some point scored. 220 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: Man. 221 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: I think it's fun. And the X factors. This is 222 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: what the X factors that the Andrew Nimhrs, the Nate Smiths. 223 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw Thomas Bryant make some shots the 224 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: last game, you know what I'm saying. We talked about 225 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: Cason Wallace, we talked about Aaron Wiggins, we talk about Caruso. 226 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: I mean Jay dubb You know what I mean, Hartenstein. 227 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: We you know we're gonna take j dub By the 228 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: X factors because you know he's an All Star. But 229 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: you know they're gonna need some X factors too. They're 230 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: gonna be there's gonna have to be some games where 231 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: some of these guys where you didn't game plan for 232 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: figure out a way to impact this game and get 233 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: you over the hump. Who are gonna be those ex factors? 234 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: We know last series it was Nate Smith and nim Hart. 235 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Well, Nate Smith and Nimhart 236 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: actually were amazing in the Cleveland series as well, but 237 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: then last series it was their defense and then there's 238 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: their timely shot making. Pascal Siaco and Hallenberg led the charge. 239 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: It's gonna be different guys, so it's gonna be fun. 240 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: And we also talk about teams who have great guys 241 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: who's starting there. If you talk about epitome of guys 242 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: that starting their role, both these teams have guys that 243 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: start in their role, whatever role that is. These guys 244 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: starring them, who you got I just told you my heart, 245 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: my heart say Indiana, my head say okay, see man 246 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: I ain't bet no, no, it is, I'll have to pick. 247 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna tune in because this finals 248 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: are gonna be awesome. Before we get out of here, 249 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: we got two things we gotta do. Got a new 250 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: segment called Factor cap mm hmm. All right, and then 251 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna do some fan questions because I don't we 252 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: don't get just me on me and you on the set, 253 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: by ourselves, by office. We got some fan questions. Factor 254 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: cap Man is already a top five player in the league. 255 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Ah h uh, huh, Ginger, you're gonna start counting at 256 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: Florida Gator Man count. 257 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: Okay, got Joker mm hmm, got Shay nice, We got Yannis, 258 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: got cool. Yeah, it's tough to put him in top five, 259 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: but he gonna get there. So you hit him he 260 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: in the top ten, You hit him here in the 261 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: top ten, in the top ten, top ten, top fifteen. 262 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: But it's tough to put him in top five. But 263 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 2: he only twenty three, is older. So the fact that 264 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: I can put him in my top teen, top fifteen 265 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: at twenty three means when he's twenty six, twenty seven, 266 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: he's gonna be blowing him out of the water. So yeah, 267 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: it's hard to put him in top five right now. 268 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: So man, I gotta say that's Cap man. But he's 269 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: definitely in my top ten, top fifteen and on his way, 270 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: you know what, a little more pain, he'll be in 271 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: the top five, a little more pain. 272 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: So okay, see it is too young to win it 273 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: all this. 274 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: Year, buffoonery, blasphemous Cap his cap. 275 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: They know this is team. 276 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Even last year when they lost it, this team was 277 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: beyond their years because you never see a young team 278 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: that played the game the right way on both ends 279 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: of the basketball court. They've been doing that for years, 280 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: defensively ad offense. That's Cap. 281 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: The whole reason is super Cap is there only four 282 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: games away from. 283 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: I think that's the that we've been falling into and 284 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: that's why we've been scared to say that they were 285 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: going to win it all because they are young. But 286 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: I think that I think we got to get over 287 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: that stigma and no, that. 288 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: The Paces are a fact or CAP. The Paces are 289 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: a better all around team than Okay, see. 290 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: No, that's Cap, that's Cap the way they Okay, see 291 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: defense that we talked about and this takes nothing away 292 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: from Paces, but okay, see is the and not just now, 293 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: but for a while they were the only team left 294 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: in the playoffs that can beat you on both ends. 295 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: They can win either way. They can win with their defense, 296 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: they can win with the offense. There wasn't too many 297 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: teams players they could win with their defense and offense. 298 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Definitely CAP. For me too, this year proves the super 299 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: team eras officially dead Fact or CAP CAP. I think 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: it's for CAP. 301 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: I think it's because because I would say I think 302 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: it's for CAP. I agree with you though, because they 303 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: put together a super team and Phoenix it just didn't work. 304 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: But if it would have work, we wouldn't have been 305 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: having this conversation. 306 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's fu CAP. 307 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: But it's leaning more towards Fact than CAP. Yeah, because 308 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: if you if you, if you look at it right now, 309 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: it's just so hard to fill your roster with the 310 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: quality of players that you need, yes, based on the 311 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: money that you're having to. 312 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Give them, yes, the right pieces. 313 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: It's really really hard. So I think it's fuck HAP 314 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: because I still think you can do it. But if 315 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: I was leaning towards i'd say it's more fact that 316 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: I think I think super teams based on again, it's 317 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna level itself out. 318 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: You gotta get lucky. 319 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm giving it to like. And I know 320 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: you hate when I say this stuff, but it's like 321 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: with this, with the with the tax consequences that are 322 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: getting their make kills. 323 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: Is that a Christian Dio basketball coach? I think it 324 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: is God. Damn that that is fat. That's cold. 325 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 326 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: But that cast you two thousand dollars. Man, it did 327 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: Damn just a hold of money. 328 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: You ain't lying. 329 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: You could have gave me fine all this. I brought 330 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: you a basketball. Hey, the other nineteen ninety five, you 331 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: could have gave it to me. I would have gave 332 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: it to you to gave you find all the basketball. 333 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: Let me let me last one. But I agree with 334 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: you on that it's for cap. It's for cap because 335 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: you can put together super team. But you know how 336 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: lucky you got to be for the work. I mean, 337 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: you know how and it was hardest for us. And 338 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: this was thirty nine years ago. It was hard as 339 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: it was. It worked. So yeah, it sucks. Yeah, it's 340 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: not easy. 341 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: And it's almost it's almost getting to the point now 342 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: where like you have to draft, like, if you're gonna 343 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: do it, you have to draft really well because it's 344 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: almost like NFL football. Your quarterback has to be on 345 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: his rookie deal or you're like like Chat and Jalen 346 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: right now, and okay, see they're both on their rookie deals. 347 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: It's allowing them to get the cruise the Hardenstein. Yes, 348 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: and it's semi super team. So it's a fuck half 349 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: because they're not a super team yet until you have 350 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: to pay him as a super team. Then you'll have 351 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: your answer. 352 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Like you say you have. The only way it works 353 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: now is if you have some studs on early deals. 354 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Like it's like a quarterback. Right, Once you have to 355 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: pay your quarterback, it's really really hard to fill your 356 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: roster up. So it's it's gonna be interesting, man like. 357 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: And that might be a reason why Dallas keeps number one, right, 358 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: because it allows you to have someone you're praying that 359 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: he's that way, but it's gonna be interesting. Yeah, fact 360 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: our cap, this is an easy one, Tyler. Tyreus Halliburton 361 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: is overrated. I mean I just say he hasn't what Yeah, 362 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: shut the people. 363 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: Today, man, a ticket tired today, man, listen, man. Nine 364 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: times in this man career, he's had at least twenty points, 365 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: fifteen assists and no turnovers nine times. The next closest 366 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: in the NBA history is three. And you know what 367 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: we're talking about. We're talking about Joker and Big o' 368 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: These as facts, people. I ain't making this up. I 369 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: get it. The pants is pulled up high, the long 370 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: arms they made the mean with him and Arkle the 371 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: other day. That look good. It's funny. It might not 372 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: look how y'all think it should look, but this is effected. 373 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: The kid can go straight up and down though it 374 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: was like six o'clock. The dude get it done, thog. 375 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: So we're gonna stop talking about that. Man ain't no much. 376 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: It's overrated. That's dog. I know his shot might look 377 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: fun all that. There's so much people could point out, man, 378 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: but that man get it done. Dog. You know what 379 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying. And one thing I'm gonna tell you, because 380 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: I looked at his numbers too, he ain't no duck 381 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: on defense either. He was holding to thirty eight thirty 382 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: nine percent. What you look at his numbers, he was 383 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: holding to thirty eight thirty nine percent on the island 384 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: when he was guarding one on one. So yeah, you 385 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: could try to hunt him out, but it ain't no 386 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: guarantee you're gonna get a bucket. 387 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: Like some mother. 388 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: You just hunting them out and it was guaranteed buckets. 389 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: Men live. 390 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Women lie, Yeah, numbers don't. So now we talk about 391 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: somebody who the head of a snake, who's averaging about 392 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: twenty a game and average a ten plus assists. So 393 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: you take his twenty plus ten assists, that's another twenty. 394 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: If you get files, then you talk about twenty files. 395 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: So we talk about somebody who's every I think the 396 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: other day they said he scored or assisted on like 397 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: close to sixty seventy something points. You gotta get credit 398 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: where credit do? I tell people this? And this is 399 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: where the geniusness of Rick Carlile comes into play because 400 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: we've seen this before. It reminds me of Hardball and 401 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens when Lamar Jackson comes to the line 402 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: of scrimmage and he got the same look. You don't 403 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: know what if he running a pass its RPO got 404 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: five wide and he take off her run for fifty yards. 405 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: I have literally seen these run the same play over 406 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: and over and over and five times and get five 407 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: different options out of there. I watched him run double 408 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: drag at the top of the key and get five 409 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: different looks. I watched Hallenberg come off split double drag 410 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: and get downhill. I watched him come off the double drag, 411 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: shoot the pull up. I watched him come off brust 412 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: and tried to show he threw it back nim hot 413 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: drove and hit the three. Then I watched them come 414 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: off and just drive it for I watched him run 415 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: the same play five times kill they get five different looks. 416 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: This is the genius a Rick carlid bru It's not 417 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: a coincidence, so we got to get credit where credit. 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