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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Lyle. Just a reminder that I am

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Speaker 1: going on tour to do therapy Gecko live in several

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Speaker 1: cities across the United States, and I would love to

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Speaker 1: see you there. I will be interviewing random folks from

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Speaker 1: the audience up on stage, and absolutely anything could happen.

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Speaker 1: It will be very fun, very terrifying, and very geko wee.

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Speaker 1: You can find the link to get tickets in your

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Speaker 1: city in the episode description. Okay, let's get into the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello is this Lyle.

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Speaker 1: This is Lyle.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing, No, buddy.

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Speaker 1: I am a gecko on the computer.

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Speaker 2: You are a geck on the computer. Are you excited

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Speaker 2: for your tour?

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Speaker 1: My man, I am excited for my tour. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit nervous. Yeah, you coming.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could. I try to get tickets to

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Speaker 2: Chicago because I'm out in Missouri, but it sold out

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Speaker 2: like fucking instantly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the tour will be fun. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to get into with with the people

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Speaker 1: and I am excited.

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you planning another one anytime soon?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, we'll we'll I'll be I'll be doing these

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Speaker 1: live things for as long as people are coming to them.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sweet, that's great here, I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 1: So what's up with your boss?

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Speaker 2: Well, Okay, I had I had kind of a crazy

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Speaker 2: do with like family problems.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm twenty and I just I just graduated

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Speaker 2: high school obviously a few years ago, and I have

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Speaker 2: for like a few years now, and recently she got

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Speaker 2: addicted to this game called I think It's New World.

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Speaker 2: It's a VR game. I don't know if you've heard

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Speaker 2: of it before.

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't heard of it, but I'm familiar with VR.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like it's kind of it's one of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, just like stupid shit like that. Sims

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Speaker 1: And stuff did start to death in the can. Isn't like,

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Speaker 2: No, like the like the small kennel in the house,

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Speaker 2: Like a small like I'm saying, like a cage.

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Speaker 2: And and so they were just left in the cage,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't I don't know how I should get

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Speaker 2: But then is like keeping her away from jail and

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Speaker 1: And what is she doing while she's like in the

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Speaker 2: Yes, so she's she's in the house and she is

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Speaker 1: So can I ask you so you're it says here,

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Speaker 1: you're twenty, sister's twenty seven. Yeah, that's a significant age difference.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I want to know when you guys

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Speaker 2: Right, And no, I would always definitely agree it has been.

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Speaker 2: It's they haven't like always been completely upfront and like

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Speaker 1: Kay kam hmm. What would you like to see happen?

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Speaker 2: I would I would like to see, like I don't

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Speaker 2: awful punishment to someone in my own family obviously, but

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Speaker 2: the with the dog, it's kind of unforgivable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, sure.

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Speaker 2: I that's what That's what I'm trying to ask. What

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Speaker 2: to ask of them? Well, a sister and me out

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Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, I can't tell you what would

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Speaker 1: you've probably heard me talk about this before. This This

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Speaker 1: You cannot change your parents' behavior. You can vocalize things

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Speaker 1: You just can't, right, And that's a difficult thing because

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's No, she's not sixteen, she's a senior this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, because I was feeling really bad for her

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you, you know, at least you get

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Speaker 1: to go back to college. Well, no, you dropped out.

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Speaker 1: You dropped out, right. Are you planning on community? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you planning on going getting out of there anytime soon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I just got a new job not that long ago,

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Speaker 2: and I've been working towards yeah, saving nothing, probably trying

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This family stuff is really tough.

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Speaker 2: Because the dynamic is hard to understand, Like I understand that.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not, No, it's not that it's hard to

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Speaker 1: And I always feel, you know, I sympathize with that

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Speaker 1: because it's something that you can try your very best, dad,

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Speaker 1: and still not accomplish. Uh, But you want to give

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Speaker 1: it a try. So you want to know kind of

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Speaker 1: the best way to talk to your parents about it,

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Speaker 1: or that's what you're trying to figure out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and okay. And also another thing that I wanted

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll get there. Let's start with this. What

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Speaker 1: have you done to communicate about the situation to your parents?

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Speaker 2: Well, so, like my parents will constantly like the they'll

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Speaker 1: And listen, Brandon, let me tell you. Can I tell

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Speaker 2: To do, Okay, And can I ask one more question

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Man?

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Speaker 2: If when I do move out and I'm planning on

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Speaker 2: Hey, I love y'all. I have a beautiful night, and

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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you man, I appreciate it. Talk to you soon,

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Speaker 1: I I I really do. And it's it's uh. He

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Speaker 1: And you know, maybe maybe right now the answer is no,

440
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: I cannot keep an open home art because it is

441
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: fucking with my ability to build my own life. But

442
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe that's not the case in five years. Maybe in

443
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: five years, once all of the the emotions that are

444
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: really fresh and rushing through him right now are a

445
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: little bit more stale, maybe it's a little easier to

446
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: have an open heart. It doesn't have to be right now.

447
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: It can wait. But seriously, good luck to you, Bradon Man.

448
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing all that stuff, and we're rooting

449
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: for you.

450
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: Hello. Is this a gag?

451
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: Yes, sir? Is this Ryan?

452
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Yes, I love your show.

453
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Ryan. It says here you've been jacking off onto your

454
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: brother's towel for ten years.

455
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Okay, we'll be dump them right into it.

456
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: So it's really weird to say like where this started,

457
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: but obviously it started at a young age because I

458
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 3: figured it out, like you know, when you know you're

459
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: little and you're kind of figure out what like masturbating is,

460
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: and then you're kind of just like sitting there and

461
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: y'all dirty, and you're like, huh, I have all this

462
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: stuff on me? How I get rid of this? And

463
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: you know, I just you know, walk over to the

464
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: bathroom and get rid of the excrement and dispose of it.

465
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: And then my brother started to upset me because I

466
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: was a you know, I thought to go to my

467
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: brother would do something to me, and I would, uh,

468
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: you know, go into his room, flip his bed over,

469
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: like mess with this ship. Like he did something to

470
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: me that I didn't like. And then I figured out,

471
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: you know, what jacking off was, and I very soonly

472
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: quickly came to a realization that I can get like

473
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: he gret ninja revenge as like Bobby put it, like

474
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: ninja revenge on my brother would at him knowing so

475
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: like and he didn't know it either, but like it's

476
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: the thing is that I knew it.

477
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if ninjas want to be associated with

478
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: this tactic of revenge, but continue, Yeah.

479
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: So I think this. I just wanted to call because

480
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: I figured that I kind of wanted to say the

481
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: secret a little bit, you know, just get it out there,

482
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: because he just moved away to college and I think

483
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: that this period of my life is starting to come

484
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: to a close, and I think I am ready to

485
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: overcome it. But I figured why not let other people know,

486
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: because you never know, it might have like a fibling

487
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: out there getting like ninja or secret revenge on you

488
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: not ninja. I don't want associate. I won't.

489
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: I have multiple questions that I feel like we're not

490
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: answered through your your abstract of the situation. And the

491
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: first one is, you know, it'd be one thing if

492
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: you told me that there was a time where your

493
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: brother did something to piss you off, and so as

494
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: revenge you jacked off onto his towel and he used it.

495
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: Ha ha, won and done. But you did this recurringly

496
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: over the course of ten years.

497
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was because I would just like think of like, yeah,

498
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: because there'd be like days while I'm just like sitting there,

499
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 3: like I'll come up like my my brother, uh, you know,

500
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: really got me upset, and I would do it like

501
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: out of out of fight on him. But do you

502
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: know your brother, No, I don't know. On and off

503
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: we argue a lot.

504
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: But then this day, where Ryan, Ryan, did you really

505
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: do this for ten years? That's a long time.

506
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a long time.

507
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: And this was and you're twenty one, so this was

508
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: from the you started doing this when you were eleven,

509
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: and you did it for ten years? How okay, okay,

510
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: tell me this, tell me this, Tell me this ten years.

511
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Over the course of the ten years, how many times

512
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: do you think you did it?

513
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, you consider, oh my god, at least once

514
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: a day. I think that'd be like my minimum.

515
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: You did it every day for ten years.

516
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Every day, but you know there's some days you do

517
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: it more. Sometimes you're wait for a weekend.

518
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Ryan, Why do you hate your brother so much?

519
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: There were days you're like, you know, like my brother

520
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: he did something nice for me, so then I wouldn't

521
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: do it.

522
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: But okay, so you're telling me. Fine, So your relationship

523
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: with your brother is such that you fucking hate him

524
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: so much that it's a given that every day you're

525
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna jack off onto his towel, and if he's nice

526
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: to you, then you won't.

527
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Sure, I guess it also kind of depends on my mood.

528
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: I guess if I'm feeling like it'll like revenge type mood.

529
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: If you're feeling a revenge and I have both lives, right, Ryan,

530
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: Please don't answer this question. Why do you hate your brother?

531
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: No, he's a good person. No, I just like there

532
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: were just times in our childhood and like there's like

533
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: little like annoyances I would get and I just kind

534
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: of like get back at him. But I'm like, you know,

535
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: in a way he would notice. I feel like every

536
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: change of towel is pretty often, so it's not like

537
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: it was you know, accumulats like months on one towel,

538
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: that'd be pretty bad.

539
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: All right. So yes, when you were a child, Yes,

540
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: So yes, when you were a child, your brother would

541
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: piss you off and you would jack off in his

542
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: towel when you were thirteen, when you were nineteen years old,

543
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: what the fuck was going on?

544
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: He's just like especially that's when yeah, nine team was COVID.

545
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: You can imagine being dup in your house with your brother,

546
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: and you know it wouldn't even just like me personally,

547
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: sometimes you like get my parents angry, and I just

548
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: you know, like find it, you know, take it upon myself,

549
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: like vigilante kind of typening vigilante revenge.

550
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: So okay, I'm just gonna budd up a little bit

551
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: of a scoreboard here only, And this is just for

552
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: me and for the people listening. I need you to understand, Ryan,

553
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: that the people listening when it comes to the characterization

554
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: of you right now and the characterization of your brother,

555
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: what we know about your brother is that when you

556
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: guys were kids who would annoyed you every once in

557
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: a while. And what we know about you is that

558
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: every day for ten years you jacked off onto his towel.

559
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: So I I just give us something Ryan that we

560
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: can say, Okay, maybe I eat just something by even

561
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: some stretch of an imagination, we can understand why you

562
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: did this.

563
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, I guess what my understanding it wasn't just

564
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: like a big deal because again, like he never noticed.

565
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: And I think now that i'm vocalizing and talking with you,

566
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: it's pretty fucked up. But I'll never say it. But again,

567
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: the reason why I'm making this call is because I'm

568
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: moving out from that point in my life.

569
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you're admitting that it was so you're

570
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: admitting that it was fucked up.

571
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty fucked up.

572
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: And over the course of ten years, did that thought

573
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: ever come into your head?

574
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: It kind of just, I don't know, revenge different things

575
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: to your brain. Man, I think, I don't know, I'm

576
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: not an only eventful person.

577
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: But don't say that at all. That's a lie. It's

578
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: a complete lie.

579
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: I guess good, because it was like my little secret

580
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: was like a little secret for me and myself only.

581
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Ryan, Yes, give us to give us one single tangible

582
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: example of anything your brother did to piss you off

583
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: over the past ten years.

584
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: I can give you a recent example, please. It was

585
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: this past summer. And again, like you figured like he'd

586
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: be mature for his age. I guess give him to

587
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: the specifics. But we went on a camping trip between

588
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 3: me and my friends and we were all there having

589
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: a great time, and you know, we're all just doing

590
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: stuff and I kind of like took upon myself to

591
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: organize a lot of trips. But that a lot of

592
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: times you wouldn't help out on the camps, like because

593
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: you know, you're kind of like living in the woods, like,

594
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: you know, on your lonesome. Not a lot of there's

595
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: only like a few of us, so everyone had to

596
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: do their fair share. Of a you know activity to

597
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: make sure you know, well being clean, being you know,

598
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: responsible for the campsite, making sure it's clean. But there

599
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: were just a lot of times where we just wasn't

600
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: helping out and was yelling at me and argue with

601
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: me when I was like trying to like, you know,

602
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: gather everyone to do an activity or you know, help

603
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 3: clean up, make food and stuff like that, and he

604
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: would just non stop argue with me. And this was

605
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: this extended from the entire trip, from being on the

606
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: campsite to doing the activity we were doing for the

607
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: the main reason we were there, and the argument was

608
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: just kind of the whole trip so kind of just

609
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: like manifested into me. Wanted to go home, not this

610
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: wasn't a desire, but like my mextion.

611
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: Time, Ryan, do you think, Ryan, do you think? Do

612
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: you think that all of the calm of his little

613
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: brother that he's absorbed into his system over the past decade,

614
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. But I said, you know, it

615
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: sounds it sounds really gross when I say it, right,

616
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: it sounds like weird.

617
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: And that's what you've been.

618
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: That's you. That's not me, that's you. I'm putting it

619
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: under a microscope right now. But that's all you, and

620
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: they disgust your feeling right now, that's it's all you. Man,

621
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: don't blame me. Do you think that's getting to him?

622
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: Perhaps that's affecting his mood, that's causing him to be

623
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: a little less helpful.

624
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: That Oh, that's like a positive feedback loot or like

625
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: makeing a feedback loop. That's not good. I hope I

626
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: wasn't doing that. Oh no, your scientists have not yet

627
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 3: studied the bad mood.

628
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: The effects of rubbing your little brothers come all over

629
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: your body every day years. That's what you're doing. Don't

630
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: say no is if I said something that's you you

631
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: This is that's not new to you. This is every

632
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: day for ten years. You're reacting to it as if

633
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: you've just found out about it now that you've been

634
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: doing it, this has been your life.

635
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: I guess you're right, though I'm not in if if

636
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: someone told that to me, yeah, I don't know how

637
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: I had. I think I really, you know, give him

638
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: a little punch or something. But like to be honest,

639
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: the fact that I didn't know, and they at least

640
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: we're letting me know. Under this circumstance that they were

641
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: like not doing anymore, you know, go to the bathroom

642
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: and change my towel immediately. But uh, I think it

643
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 3: would be that big of a deal. Maybe I'm saying

644
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: that because I've done it, but you know, it's a towel.

645
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: You just you know, we changed every you know, other weeks,

646
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: So it could it could be worse. You could be

647
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: like someone who changed the towel, like, you know, every

648
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: couple of months. That'd be oh my god, the smell wretched.

649
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: Right, I think you're letting yourself off too easy.

650
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: Maybe I am, at least I'm getting this all out

651
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: now that in the rough week. But this, this is good,

652
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: This is good, This is helpful. Glad that this is

653
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: coming to it.

654
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: You basically you you all right, listen, you jacked off

655
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: onto a towel. You jacked off onto something, and then

656
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: your older brother rubbed it all over himself. You're like

657
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: a step removed from jacking off onto your brother. You're

658
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: a step removed your brother. You're like your brother probably

659
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: washed his face with a towel. You are a step

660
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: removed from giving your brother a facial It was painful.

661
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: It was like volta ignorance. I guess you could say

662
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: ignorance is bliss when you really think about it. Oh man,

663
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: you're like cleaning my head now, like all these things

664
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: he probably did with the towel.

665
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably rubbed the towel on his penis. You

666
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: comed on I'm gonna you combed on your brother's stomach,

667
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: You comed on your brother's face, You combed on your

668
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: brother's eyes, You combed all over your brother for ten years. Ryan.

669
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm going to repent this.

670
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: You have to tell You have to tell him. You

671
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: don't repent to me, you repent to him.

672
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, maybe we're both like officially moved out.

673
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good idea.

674
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: That what I can do for now is not do

675
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: that activitymore, but like once we're both officially.

676
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: Moved Ryan Ryan, Bryan, Bryan Bryan Ryan Ryan. Yes, please

677
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: don't call it an activity.

678
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to keep it big.

679
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how twitches. I'm just trying to keep

680
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: it vague. I'm sorry.

681
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: This is not about twitch, This is not about me.

682
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: This is about you comming on your brother, and uh,

683
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: hopefully you find the courage to tell him. Are you

684
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: gonna do it maybe maybe on my deathbed. Yeah, yeah,

685
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: I know. I agree. I was gonna tell you should

686
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: do it now, But you should totally. You should totally

687
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: not tell him at all. You should definitely. That would

688
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: make it so much worse. Anyway, Ryan, is there anything

689
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people the computer

690
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: before we go?

691
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: I've learned a lot and.

692
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: I really have you tell me. Tell me, tell me

693
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: one thing you learned before we go.

694
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: It is very helpful to verbalize things and like talk

695
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: with someone to understand if something sucked up.

696
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: So will you say that you come down your brother?

697
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: No, I would never say that in my life.

698
00:40:59,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Thank you call.

699
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I have a great day, while I hope you

700
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: don't have. Yeah, you're an only child, they'd be okay,

701
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: you're fine, all right, have a good.

702
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: You know.

703
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Uh, he said, I'll be fine because I'm an only child.

704
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I'll be fine because I'm not coming on my siblings towels.

705
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I have a sister. And fucking Ryan's

706
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: lucky he doesn't have a sister, because if he did,

707
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: she'd be pregnant with a little Ryan incess baby, all

708
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: because she didn't help out of the camping trip. Hello, Hello,

709
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: what's going on with you? Mars?

710
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 5: So I think my parents are swinging with my neighbors.

711
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 1: You think your parents are swinging with your neighbors. Yes,

712
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: what has made you think that?

713
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 5: Well, So, we've lived house that we live in now

714
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: for about five years and these are like my next

715
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: door neighbors, like immediate next door neighbors, and my parents

716
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 5: have become really good friends with them over the last

717
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 5: like four years, I would say, But over the last

718
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 5: like year and a half, I've became friends with my

719
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: neighbor's son and his girlfriend, like best friends. And they're

720
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 5: always throwing parties like at each other's houses, Like they're

721
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 5: always there or here, like either one. My neighbors are here,

722
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: my parents are over there, and we'll go over there

723
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: and like drink with them sometimes or drink here at

724
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 5: my house. But over the last year or so, we've

725
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 5: noticed that they've gotten like almost uncomfortably close with each other.

726
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: What have you been noticing that makes you feel like

727
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: they've been getting uncomfortably close.

728
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: This is going to sound kind of crazy, but me

729
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: and my friends have like a shared Google doc full

730
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: of like quote unquote evidence of them being swingers. So

731
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: just they've just been really like touchy with each other,

732
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 5: really like suspicious. Like I remember, like a few years ago,

733
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: before I could drink, because I'm twenty one, they would

734
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: like send me away. Like they'd be like, oh, go

735
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: hang out with your friends, or go do this.

736
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: Go do that.

737
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 5: We're having an adult party at the house. And I'd

738
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 5: be like, Okay, what the hell's an adult party. I'm eighteen,

739
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: I'm an adult legally at least, but they would have

740
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 5: these like adult nights. So I'm like, okay, that can I.

741
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: Well, can I actually stop you right there because I

742
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: really wanted to ask you something. So you you and

743
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: your friend have a Google doc of evidence that suggests

744
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: that you this is just that your parents and your

745
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: neighbors are swinging.

746
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 5: Yes. Why because at first I thought I was crazy.

747
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: I thought I was just imagining things.

748
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I meant, I meant more so, why have you

749
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: gone into such depth to investigate this? Like, let's step

750
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: back back from the investigation itself and step into what

751
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: your interest is in it? So heavily, I mean heavily

752
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: enough for you to make a Google doc.

753
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 5: It's not so much an interest, it's just like I like,

754
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 5: I don't want to know if my parents are swinging

755
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 5: with my neighbors, Like I don't want to go up

756
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: to them and ask them.

757
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't want, you don't sound like you

758
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: don't want to know.

759
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: It's it's more of the I don't know, like I

760
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: do want to know, because they lied to me on

761
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: multiple occasions about like what they're doing or where they're going.

762
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 5: So it's more of the fact that I want them

763
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: to tell me the truth rather than continue to lie

764
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: to me. And I don't want to just go up

765
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 5: to them and be like, are you guys swinging with

766
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 5: the neighbors, because I feel like that's kind of psychotic,

767
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: but I feel like that might be the best route

768
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 5: to go. But I like that information is terrifying, Like

769
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to know that, but I feel like

770
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 5: I already kind of do deep down.

771
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: This is really funny to me because you're twenty one, right, Yes,

772
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: when you were sixteen or fifteen or whatever, did you

773
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: have secrets that you kept from your parents?

774
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 5: Yes? And no, not like this though I was a

775
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 5: pretty tame child.

776
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Okay, well you said yeah, you said yes. What kind

777
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: of secrets did you keep from them?

778
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 5: The biggest one is probably that I was smoking weed

779
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: with my friends on the weekend. When I would say

780
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 5: I would go hang out with my ex girlfriend, we

781
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: would just go and smoke weed at the park.

782
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: And do you think that your parents didn't want to

783
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: talk to you about that?

784
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 5: Probably not, because I feel like they did have like

785
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: the sneaking suspicion because I would come home high sometimes.

786
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: So you have the suspicion that your parents are swinging

787
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: with your neighbors, you don't want to ask them about it.

788
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I still want to know why are you so interested

789
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: in it?

790
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of fun to assume, like because

791
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: it's not just me and my friends that think this,

792
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: Like it's my neighbor's older son too, he's like in

793
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: his thirties. Him and his wife think it. Like my

794
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: family even makes comments about like, oh, you guys spend

795
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: so much time with your neighbors, like kind of trying

796
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 5: to say something but not outright saying it.

797
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I thought it something that is it

798
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: something that upsets you?

799
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: I think at first it did because like IW, but

800
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: now it's kind of just like it upsets me more

801
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 5: because they're they lie to me about what they're doing,

802
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: or where they're going, or they'll make me lie to

803
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: my neighbor's younger kids or like my sisters. So I

804
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: feel like I'm in on something that I shouldn't be

805
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 5: in on in a.

806
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: Way, Well, if you feel like you're in on something

807
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be in on, I get. I get.

808
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm getting just so much like contradiction from you, where

809
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this is gross, I don't want to

810
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: know about it. But I'm also conducting an investigation that includes,

811
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, multiple different files and case studies and whatnot.

812
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: And then I'm upset that I'm involved in the situation,

813
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: but I also want to get even more involved by

814
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: continuing to investigate in it.

815
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: Right, I feel like I've stopped now because it's just

816
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 5: too much for me to like think about all the time,

817
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 5: because that for a while it was kind of taking

818
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: over my brain. But now it's just kind of like

819
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: I've come to terms with it. Like if they're swinging,

820
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 5: that's fine, just don't be so obvious about it.

821
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I guess.

822
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 5: Cause they're really, like I said, they're really touchy with

823
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 5: each other, Like my mom will mess with my neighbor's

824
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 5: nipples all the time, which is really creepy and gross.

825
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: What's your name? Mars? Mars? I want, I want, I

826
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: really I like you. You're twenty one years old, right,

827
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: You're not sixteen. You're not still living I mean, I

828
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: don't know you're still living on I don't know what

829
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: your living situation is. But you're not a kid anymore.

830
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: You're twenty one. You don't have to be there. You

831
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: don't have to be in the same room as your

832
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: mom and your neighbor with her touch at as nipples.

833
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: You don't have to be there.

834
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 5: You can be doing I definitely don't. I to I do.

835
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: I try not to hang out with them, so so

836
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 5: to me.

837
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, for you to be conducting an investigation trying

838
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: to tell your parents what you know they should or

839
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't do PDA wise, these are all just like faulty

840
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: ways to approach this situation. I mean, you know, for

841
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: God's sake, you don't have to be there. You could

842
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: be doing literally anything else or going anywhere else. Why

843
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Why is this something that's that's taking up your time?

844
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: I agree, I definitely agree. I can be doing whatever else.

845
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: But it's.

846
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 5: Unfortunately my parents are really good at peer pressuring me

847
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: like they're the only people that can, I think, but

848
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 5: they convince me, like, oh, come over and drink with us,

849
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: like we're we're just sitting around drinking, and I'm like, Okay,

850
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 5: I don't really want to, but I'll go for a

851
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: little bit and then i'll leave or I'll just say no,

852
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 5: and then they'll guilt trip me about it.

853
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: So it's like.

854
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 5: I do have control over the situation for sure, but

855
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 5: then they guilt trip me and I'm like, oh my god,

856
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 5: I have to go and watch you be creepy with

857
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 5: the neighbors for like two hours. That's enough for me.

858
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: You can't next time, your next time your mom asks

859
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: you to come drink with you and the neighbors, you can.

860
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: You can tell you you can be like mom, Look,

861
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: I look mom, I'm an adult. You're an adult. I

862
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: know you're fucking the neighbors. I don't care that you're

863
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: fucking the neighbors. I want you. You're my mom. I

864
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: love you. I want you to go have fun with

865
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: your life because it's your life and you damn should.

866
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be anywhere involved in that.

867
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to my room. Do that just

868
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: some just please, Mars, summon the confidence to do that.

869
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: You can do that. Okay, it's not gonna end your

870
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: world if you say that.

871
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 5: No, I know, yeah, you're right, You're right.

872
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I hate all these we all these workarounds of like

873
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: the let's do an investigation, and it's just it's just

874
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: so much avoidance for no reason that I really think

875
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: you should, for lack of a better word, avoid the avoidance.

876
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah. I feel like my boyfriend has said kind

877
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 5: of the same thing. He's like, if you care so much,

878
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: why don't you just ask them? And I'm like, yeah,

879
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 5: it's real, that's that's I feel like, that's just not

880
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: a conversation I'm mentally prepared for. And maybe maybe in

881
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 5: a few years I could be like, hey, were you

882
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: ever swinging with the neighbors, like as a joke kind

883
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 5: of to see.

884
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: What they say as why what why? Why? Is a joke? What? Mars, Mars.

885
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say this, but grow up a little bit, man.

886
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have to have the conversation. You

887
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: don't have to have the conversation, but you also don't

888
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: have to keep like diving into it. If you don't,

889
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: you're like you're torturing yourself with these contradictions.

890
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're right. I think anything to let

891
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 5: it go.

892
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

893
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

894
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: No, I'm super glad I called in. I feel like

895
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 5: you've put some good perspective on this and I will

896
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 5: take you up on your advice.

897
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Beautiful, thank you for calling Mars.

898
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: Thank you man?

899
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Oh man? Am I jealous of the amazing sex that

900
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: Mars's mom and dad are having with their neighbors. That's

901
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: why I wouldn't want to go personally if they invited me,

902
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go because I would see Mars's

903
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: mom rubbing her neighbor's nipples, and I would just get

904
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: jealous of how much fun they both look like they're having. Hello, Jack,

905
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: what's up?

906
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 4: Oh hey man, I'm actually like, I'm actually in the

907
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 4: middle of a game of fortnine right now. That's actually

908
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 4: really funny.

909
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Okay, why are you gonna keep.

910
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 4: Is that? Okay?

911
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: No, that's not okay at all. You should stop playing.

912
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 4: Then I'm done. It's it's over. It's over.

913
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: Literally, it's up.

914
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: Against two people.

915
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: Okay, right about?

916
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 4: Oh, he's god he's gonna kill me, and I'm gonna hang.

917
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Up on you. I'm gonna hang up on you right now.

918
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: Are you there? No?

919
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: No, please come here. I'm here, all right.

920
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get it. I'm not a video game.

921
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: Video games are engineered to be entertaining and engineered to

922
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: say he can say this, you can tell me anything.

923
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: Can I tell you this? For I have never been

924
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: in the video games in my entire life until like

925
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 4: the past, like probably the last year. It started with

926
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: Animal Crossing, like a year ago, and then now I've

927
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: kind of died off from that. And then about a

928
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: week ago my fiance found Fortnite, and now it's all

929
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 4: we can do.

930
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: Why do you feel like it took this long for

931
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: you to get in the video games?

932
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 4: I had an older brother, Oh I do. I have

933
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 4: an older brother. He is still a lot. He is

934
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: about a year and a half older than me, and

935
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: so when we were kids, we played the same video

936
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 4: games and the same stuff, but he would always win

937
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 4: just because he was slightly older and he was just

938
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 4: more experienced than just so I just like got turned

939
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: off from video games up until that point. And so,

940
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: but I mean, I think it worked on my favor

941
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: because I'm not very competitive in general. I don't have

942
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: like a very like aggressive competitive spirit. So when I

943
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: lose things, I'm like all right with it.

944
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: No, you don't sound like an aggressive guy at all.

945
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 4: No, I don't feel like I am. I try not

946
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: to be, and I don't. I mean it comes easy.

947
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: So, so, what's what's going on with you?

948
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: Man?

949
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: If anything?

950
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: Well?

951
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: Uh, what's up?

952
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I said, if anything in particular?

953
00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

954
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: Well, well, I was talking to your call screener. So

955
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: I'm twenty two years old and I have never worn

956
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: my socks the correct way in my entire life.

957
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 5: Mmm.

958
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if that comes as a shock. M.

959
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: You have never worn your socks in a correct way.

960
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, M. What is the

961
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: correct way to wear your socks?

962
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: Uh? I would okay, let me be more specific. I

963
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: have never worn them right side out. I've always worn

964
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: them inside out my entire lives.

965
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: Mmm. Okay, what's your name?

966
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: My name is Gee Buns.

967
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you Adam.

968
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that works, Adam.

969
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow your mind.

970
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 5: Please.

971
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: There is no correct way to wear your socks. However

972
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: you wear them becomes the correct way.

973
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense, But what what if it stops

974
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: me from wearing certain socks you know that you know,

975
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: maybe printed in a in a fun way, in a

976
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 4: crazy way.

977
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: What if it stops you from wearing socks printed? What

978
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: do you what do you mean by that? How can?

979
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: How can? How can anything? A pair of socks?

980
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 4: You know? What I do sound silly now that you

981
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: put it out loud, I do. That's self realization right

982
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 4: that I'm feeling it right now, you know.

983
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: Uh. A real story is when I was I, you know,

984
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: I remember growing up, I used to like my mom

985
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: would like take my miss my socks, and she would

986
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: always like I had white socks and blue socks and

987
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: black socks and whatnot, and she would always fold the

988
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: black socks together the white sox together, like she would

989
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do, right, Yeah. And then eventually,

990
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: when I moved out on my own, I was doing

991
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: my laundry and I had a white sock and a

992
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: black sock and I was about to put them together,

993
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, white, No, these don't go together.

994
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: And then I realized.

995
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with them being together.

996
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, And then I just fucking did it and

997
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: I've been living my life like that ever since. You

998
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 1: know why, because when you're an adult, you get checked.

999
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 4: It's beautiful. You can whatever your about.

1000
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: It's a pick what. You don't give a fuck abound, Yes,

1001
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: And I don't give a fuck about if my socks match.

1002
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: And so that's how I live.

1003
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, because I mean the whole thing was it

1004
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: was like a funny thing when I was a kid.

1005
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: I mean, every time I bring it up, people be like,

1006
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: ah ha whatever. But then like recently, people would be like,

1007
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: why are your socks inside out? And I was like,

1008
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: oh no, it's just something I've always done since I.

1009
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Was a kid.

1010
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: And They're like, if you've gotten checked. It's like that

1011
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: kind of vibe. And so I was just coming to

1012
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: you for either validation or you know, a reality check.

1013
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Everything is whatever you decide it is. So if you

1014
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: wear your socks inside out, and you decide that that

1015
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: is the correct way to wear them, and you are correct.

1016
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: M You're totally right there. I don't have a I

1017
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: don't have an argument against that.

1018
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: Uh, Adam, Is there anything else you want to say

1019
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go?

1020
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: Ah? Nothing, just people love.

1021
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling out.

1022
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: Thanks.

1023
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: It is important to ask why. I'm gonna start doing

1024
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: this every time I do anything in life. I'm gonna

1025
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: do this tomorrow. Maybe you'll join me. For every single

1026
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: thing I do, I'm gonna ask myself why I do

1027
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: the thing, and if I don't have a good answer,

1028
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop doing it. Why do I put on

1029
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: socks at all? Well, because it makes me more comfortable

1030
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: when I put on my feet when I fucking put

1031
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: on my shoes. Good answer. Why do I correct my

1032
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: socks from being inside out to how they quote normally

1033
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: are supposed to be, well because that's how society says

1034
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: they should be worn. Bad answer. I am society and

1035
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: I declare society's rules.

1036
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 3: Jeremy Kad goes on the line taking your phone calls

1037
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: every night.

1038
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: De Repcon goes doing his ride. He's teaching you cloud

1039
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: in the mid of your life, but he's not really

1040
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 4: an expert.