Speaker 1: Welcome to a post vacation, pre training camp edition of
Speaker 1: the Dave Pass Podcast with Cardinals head coach Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: Our first repeat guest on this podcast, which launched at
Speaker 1: this time last year, and obviously the news of the day,
Speaker 1: Kyler murray five year contract extension stays with the Cardinals
Speaker 1: through at least twenty twenty eight. This was inevitable. You
Speaker 1: knew it was coming. It was just a matter of when,
Speaker 1: not if Cliff and I get into Kyler's extension at
Speaker 1: length and in particular the steps that Kyler took last
Speaker 1: year to help get the Cardinals to the postseason, and
Speaker 1: now what's it going to take for Kyler to continue
Speaker 1: to grow in twenty twenty two and beyond to hopefully
Speaker 1: help the Cardinals win multiple championships. The contract deal I
Speaker 1: feel really good about. We know he's our future here.
Speaker 1: I mean the talent I have said it since I
Speaker 1: got here is generational. We also discuss Rondelle Moore, a
Speaker 1: player that Cliff has his ion for an increased role
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. A player on defense that stands
Speaker 1: out to Cliff, someone that impressed him during the summer
Speaker 1: that he's really excited about seeing take the next step
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and also having the cameras on
Speaker 1: him twenty four to seven, with Hard Knocks being involved
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals this summer in training camp and also
Speaker 1: joint practices with the Tennessee Titans leading up to a
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Speaker 1: Gambling problem Call one eight hundred Next Step. Fresh off
Speaker 1: an eighteen hour flight from Alan, Italy, literally fresh off
Speaker 1: of it, here's my conversation with Cliff Kingsbury on this
Speaker 1: edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. So full disclosure, Cliff,
Speaker 1: I am completely delirious as we taped this Thursday. We
Speaker 1: got back from a month in Italy at about eleven
Speaker 1: pm last night. Man, So this is either going to
Speaker 1: be the worst podcast ever or perhaps the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it may just flow, you may just be on autopilot.
Speaker 1: But I've been there, so I understand the pain. And
Speaker 1: you were saying when you went before, you drove right
Speaker 1: in Italy, Yeah, which was a bad, bad mistake. I
Speaker 1: was terrified. I mean, your little roads can't tell if
Speaker 1: it's sidewalk, if it's the road, and then when you're
Speaker 1: winding around by the coast, it's absurd. We've we've gone
Speaker 1: a bunch. We never drive because you can't. I was
Speaker 1: mentioned it before. It's like you giving me your playboga
Speaker 1: and stay higo call the first quarter. Yeah, I'd look
Speaker 1: at and be like, Okay, this doesn't look real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and good luck asking directions. They'll give
Speaker 1: you back straight Italian. Just to put a point like,
Speaker 1: you're not you're not getting the English version. I go
Speaker 1: to assure you. But it is a beautiful place. You
Speaker 1: just got to make sure you have a driver. Did
Speaker 1: you get some time off? I did. Yeah, I snuck
Speaker 1: away for quite a while. I try to stay away
Speaker 1: and just detach and got back last weekend and ready
Speaker 1: to roll. How hard is that for a guy like
Speaker 1: you that lives and breathe it. You're in here so early,
Speaker 1: it's it's football all the time. How hard is it
Speaker 1: for you to detach completely? Yeah, the first week you
Speaker 1: literally feel a lot of anxieties, some depression, I think
Speaker 1: because you're just so structured and what you do and
Speaker 1: so used to getting up doing this, working out, studying film.
Speaker 1: But then once you can kind of get past it,
Speaker 1: it's great to unwind, just get your mind away from it.
Speaker 1: The beautiful part about NFL compared to colleges, I don't
Speaker 1: even hear from another coach, I don't hear from anyone
Speaker 1: about football where they're your constant contact, monitoring players, recruits,
Speaker 1: all that. So that's really nice. You can completely detach
Speaker 1: from the game. So Camp is right around the corner,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious in your four how will can't
Speaker 1: be different this year or do you think it'll be
Speaker 1: pretty much the same as we've seen the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, now that you're in a groove here at
Speaker 1: this level. Yeah, hopefully the starting point would be completely
Speaker 1: COVID free, you know, as far as the testing and
Speaker 1: requirements we've had that last couple of years, which will
Speaker 1: will help. I think camp's already at a certain level
Speaker 1: of anxiety and stress upon everybody because it's such a grind,
Speaker 1: and to take that away really help. But then we
Speaker 1: have a very veteran team. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: our key contributors are getting older. Still very very good players,
Speaker 1: but getting older. So we got to make sure that
Speaker 1: that their health is number one and getting the work
Speaker 1: they need. They know how to get ready for the
Speaker 1: season at getting the work they need, but making sure
Speaker 1: they're healthy and ready to go for week one. And
Speaker 1: I know, as I asked this question, there's only so
Speaker 1: much you can say, but how will the offense be different?
Speaker 1: Do you think this year, at least what we can
Speaker 1: see on the outside. Yeah, I think every year you
Speaker 1: try to maximize your personnel, and we have some guys
Speaker 1: coming back that I'm really excited about. Obviously I won't
Speaker 1: have hop the first part of the season, but getting
Speaker 1: him back will be huge. You sell the difference in
Speaker 1: offensive production when he was on the field him when
Speaker 1: he wasn't having a j second year in the system.
Speaker 1: Zach ERT's getting a full off season in the system.
Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, We're all excited about him stepping up and
Speaker 1: the things he can do in the slot there and
Speaker 1: then the trade for Hollywood Brown I think was huge
Speaker 1: that to have a speed he can really take the
Speaker 1: top off the coverage. I have a lot of our
Speaker 1: O line backs, so our guys know the system. Want
Speaker 1: to be able to play faster. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to mix send more tempo and really be aggressive
Speaker 1: on offense with all that that talent. So I had
Speaker 1: Zecherts on the pot and he mentioned I asked him about,
Speaker 1: you know, the offense, how do you get through the
Speaker 1: first six games? How does it look? He said, you know,
Speaker 1: I may be out there some at that position, the
Speaker 1: exposition right, Oh, no doubt. We gotta like I said,
Speaker 1: we gotta try to find matchups, maximize a personnel. And
Speaker 1: I think his comfort level with the offense now compared
Speaker 1: to last year's this night and day when he came in,
Speaker 1: we were just trying to get him game planned, a
Speaker 1: game plan and that was the overall understanding of each position,
Speaker 1: where everybody goes on each play is top notch. And
Speaker 1: I expect him to take a big step. You mentioned
Speaker 1: last year and when d Hop went down, how things changed?
Speaker 1: Was it that simple cliff as you back and kind
Speaker 1: of watch when you lose a player that's, you know,
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer that's still in his prime. Did
Speaker 1: it really just come down to that? What were some
Speaker 1: of the other things. Is you went back and kind
Speaker 1: of look through everything at what went well, but also
Speaker 1: what didn't go well towards the end of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say from an offensive standpoint, if you lose a
Speaker 1: guy who's your your number one guy, teams can play
Speaker 1: you differently. And I don't think I did a great
Speaker 1: job adjusting to that and playing to our strengths. We
Speaker 1: kind of kept rolling as is and it just didn't
Speaker 1: produce like like we wanted to. So I gotta take
Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility for that. But I just felt
Speaker 1: like down the stretch we didn't coach as well and
Speaker 1: we didn't play as discipline as we could have. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you're losing obviously, hot and then JJ Watt
Speaker 1: on defense, just what he brings on and off the
Speaker 1: field was huge. But we got to be able to
Speaker 1: overcome that and continue to play at the level that
Speaker 1: we had started at. So hopefully we can learn from
Speaker 1: that and be better this season. Still, you look back,
Speaker 1: you made the playoffs, and you've taken strides each year.
Speaker 1: And I know at the time everybody, obviously including you guys,
Speaker 1: are all upset at the way the season ended. But
Speaker 1: as you look back, how do you feel like the
Speaker 1: program grew? Last year? It was huge. I think everybody
Speaker 1: understands now we can compete with anybody. I think even
Speaker 1: going into last year, everybody picked us fourth in the
Speaker 1: Division tupest division of football, which it is, and we
Speaker 1: were playing a home game to win the division, last
Speaker 1: game of the year. And so to come from where
Speaker 1: we started where that year one, I'm like, we're never
Speaker 1: going to catch these guys, you know, because playing the
Speaker 1: Rams and the forty nine ers of their peak, and
Speaker 1: then you had Russell playing at a high level, they
Speaker 1: won the division. They were twelve and four in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty or whatever, three really really good teams. And so
Speaker 1: to be in that position and take those steps each year,
Speaker 1: we feel like we have a chance to take another
Speaker 1: step and love the core that we have coming back,
Speaker 1: excited about some of the additions we made, and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to get started. I know you don't pay
Speaker 1: a ton of attention to what's being said in the
Speaker 1: media locally and also nationally, but obviously when things are
Speaker 1: going great. Cliff Kingsbury's a genius and you get the
Speaker 1: contract extension? Was what were those conversations like with Michael
Speaker 1: And did you feel a sense of accomplishment relief? I
Speaker 1: know you feel like you still have work to do,
Speaker 1: but what did it mean to you to get the
Speaker 1: extension of this offseason. I'm just excited to continue the progress,
Speaker 1: you know. I think when I took this job, Michael
Speaker 1: and Steve took a huge risk. Nobody'd ever hired a
Speaker 1: fired college coach to become their head coach, and I
Speaker 1: understood that. So I've always felt very indebted to them,
Speaker 1: very grateful to that opportunity. So continue to try and
Speaker 1: grow this organization and progress the way we have, which
Speaker 1: is when more and more games each year, get better
Speaker 1: in every phase each year. That's the goal. And we're
Speaker 1: all this point and how it ended, but we like
Speaker 1: where this thing's headed and excited about this upcoming year.
Speaker 1: How do you think you've changed, Cliff? Do you have
Speaker 1: more of an edge last year because I noticed your
Speaker 1: interaction with the officials maybe early in the season was
Speaker 1: different than at least what we saw. And I remember
Speaker 1: doing a Texas Tech game early on and I was
Speaker 1: talking to some folks there and they're like, you know, Cliffs,
Speaker 1: that's how Cliff is. Maybe you guys are just starting
Speaker 1: to see it now. So was that a different version
Speaker 1: of you? Were you like intentional with that or is
Speaker 1: that just you know, I'm gonna let it role, I'm
Speaker 1: just going to be me. Yeah. I think you just
Speaker 1: try to have a lot of self awareness and know
Speaker 1: when it's time to speak up and no one has
Speaker 1: time to step up. And there's definitely a certain comfort
Speaker 1: level that comes with it as well. And so I
Speaker 1: just feel like we have a team now with the
Speaker 1: town to be really good a coaching staff. This's been
Speaker 1: together four years. So I want to be my true
Speaker 1: self and try to be the best version of myself
Speaker 1: every day, and if that is getting a flagger right
Speaker 1: now and then I'll take it. Um. But I learned
Speaker 1: early on being nice to those refs didn't help, so
Speaker 1: we went ahead and just went with our true selves.
Speaker 1: Last year. Well, I've always said if you can't get
Speaker 1: along with Cliff Kingsbury, you're the one with the problem,
Speaker 1: Like you're one of the nicest guys. And I mean
Speaker 1: I usually try to present my um disagreement with them
Speaker 1: in a in a kind manner, and I think falls
Speaker 1: upon deaf heres, then we'll change change the tone a
Speaker 1: little bit. You're one of the good dudes in coaching,
Speaker 1: and I've a run a lot of coaches college in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and that's why I always say, if you
Speaker 1: if you got a problem with cliff Man, that's that's
Speaker 1: on you. That's not on that's not on cliff Um.
Speaker 1: So obviously everybody is curious what happens with Kyler. Kyler
Speaker 1: is going to be a Cardinal for a long time.
Speaker 1: What's the next step? And I asked you this last
Speaker 1: year and the things you said at the time, growing
Speaker 1: as a leader we saw and making more winning plays
Speaker 1: in the right times. And he did that, you know,
Speaker 1: I know he got hurt in a probably affected some
Speaker 1: of his season towards the end of the year. What's
Speaker 1: the next step for Kyler here in twenty twenty two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's going to continue to get better. The
Speaker 1: contract do I feel really good about. We know he's
Speaker 1: our future here. I mean the talent I've said us
Speaker 1: since I got here is generational with what he can
Speaker 1: do running, throwing the football. I think last year was
Speaker 1: kind of the perfect store for him. You get injured,
Speaker 1: and when you come back, you don't have your number
Speaker 1: one receiver either, So that's a lot of trying to
Speaker 1: get back up to speed. He missed a month of
Speaker 1: really practicing and playing football, get back to the speed
Speaker 1: while you're kind of in the playoff hunt and you
Speaker 1: don't have your best receiver. But each year you look
Speaker 1: at the statu you look at any wins, anything, it's
Speaker 1: gotten dramatically better. And that's what I've been really excited about.
Speaker 1: I knew when we drafted him he had a chance
Speaker 1: to be one of the top guys in the league,
Speaker 1: and I think he's proven that. I mean kids come
Speaker 1: in Rookie of the Year, back to back Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: I think he takes criticism, which we all do. I
Speaker 1: think some of his is unfair for some reasons I
Speaker 1: won't get into here. But we know what he brings,
Speaker 1: and every Sunday we lined up with him as quarterback,
Speaker 1: we have a real chances to win any game. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the injury and the timing of the injury. I'm curious,
Speaker 1: did you notice. I have to think, as a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: it's hard when you're playing every week, you're rolling along
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you go down and now
Speaker 1: when you come back, you're close to playoff time. You're
Speaker 1: going to be a playoff team, and you've got to
Speaker 1: get back to where you were with no game reps,
Speaker 1: no practice reps, those mental reps that you have with
Speaker 1: your teammates and obviously losing d hop. Do you think
Speaker 1: he was it hard for him to recover from that
Speaker 1: time off just being off forget the injury, but just
Speaker 1: being away from it. There's no doubt. I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking didn't practice for a month, not just didn't play games,
Speaker 1: and that's hard for anybody not to mention. You're coming
Speaker 1: back playing the Rams and you know, some of these
Speaker 1: top top tier teams. But I think we learned from
Speaker 1: a lot of it. I think we'll be better moving forward,
Speaker 1: and we just got to try and when things like
Speaker 1: that have been trying to overcome him and come back sharp.
Speaker 1: How have you seen Kyler grow in terms of the leadership,
Speaker 1: because that's what everybody wants to see. You mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: some unfair criticism and maybe that's where it's coming from.
Speaker 1: You get a lot of people that question him nationally
Speaker 1: about his leadership that you know aren't here and aren't
Speaker 1: talking to his teammates, and I had JJ wat Zecher,
Speaker 1: it's Justin Pugh. Three guys in a row on this
Speaker 1: podcast talk about his leadership in a positive way. So
Speaker 1: the guys that he plays with every week are saying
Speaker 1: good things about him as a leader. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, everybody's going to have their their
Speaker 1: own opinion. But the kid, like I said, he shows
Speaker 1: up every day. He came to the worst team in
Speaker 1: football and the worst offense by far. You know that
Speaker 1: that had occurred in a long time in this league,
Speaker 1: and all he's done has improved every year. He's improved
Speaker 1: the organization, he's improved the team. And because he doesn't
Speaker 1: smile and wave at the camera every day, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's this this villain and never got in
Speaker 1: trouble off the field. You've never heard one bad thing
Speaker 1: about him off the field, negative towards any person in
Speaker 1: the building. And so at times, I think, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's certain aspects to him that draw that criticism. But
Speaker 1: we're thrilled the progress he's made and where the thing's head.
Speaker 1: And I know he's excited about this upcoming season. Well,
Speaker 1: the bottom line is you've got a player that is
Speaker 1: talented enough to win multiple championships and so all the
Speaker 1: other stuff that people talk him, well, well should the
Speaker 1: Cardinals give him the contract? Well, you're not going to
Speaker 1: give somebody money based on whether he's happy or not.
Speaker 1: You're going to give him money based on whether he
Speaker 1: can win you multiple championships. No direct, no question. I
Speaker 1: mean those are few and far between. You see the
Speaker 1: market for these quarterbacks and what guys are getting paid,
Speaker 1: and there's very few. E lineup every Sunday and you
Speaker 1: say we got a chance, and our guy is one
Speaker 1: of those that gives you a chance every Sunday and
Speaker 1: at his best. You know, I don't know who's better
Speaker 1: in this league. Let's shift to the offensive line because
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson his back, I know injuries were a big
Speaker 1: problem for him last year. How do you see the
Speaker 1: center position playing out because you know Justin obviously got
Speaker 1: some reps at that position in minicamp. Yes, I thought
Speaker 1: that was great. You never know when when things could occur.
Speaker 1: Justin such a cerebral player that we could plug him
Speaker 1: in really any position. He's played tackle for us, you know,
Speaker 1: he's played guard, could play center, and that's that's huge
Speaker 1: for the team. But we have a real veteran group
Speaker 1: up there. When you're talking DJ, you're talking Pugh Beach
Speaker 1: and Rodney and then we brought in Will Hernandez who
Speaker 1: were really excited about kind of a maller upfront. It's
Speaker 1: a good group, very smart. You know, they challenge you
Speaker 1: in the room while we're doing this, Why why didn't
Speaker 1: we do that? And you love that as a as
Speaker 1: a staff because they've seen a lot of football and
Speaker 1: that helps you as a team. How did Rondale Moore
Speaker 1: adapt to the NFL. I don't know what the terminology
Speaker 1: was a produe compared to here and whether that was
Speaker 1: an adjustment, and then how do you see his role
Speaker 1: changing it all here in year two? For him, losing
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is tough because he's such a tremendous player
Speaker 1: in person in this organization and so happy for where
Speaker 1: he went and the deal he got. But Rondell was
Speaker 1: definitely waiting in the wings. I mean, he thinks he's
Speaker 1: the best player on the field every time he steps
Speaker 1: out there, and we limited those opportunities last year just
Speaker 1: because we had so many talented players and he had
Speaker 1: a hard time accepting that, which is what you want.
Speaker 1: But I think anytime he was healthy and on the field,
Speaker 1: you saw the impact he made. And it's it's his
Speaker 1: year really to show what he can do in that position,
Speaker 1: getting more reps, and I think we're all excited to show,
Speaker 1: you know, week one what he's about. So you mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier Hollywood, and obviously that was for the offense of
Speaker 1: the big move in the offseason. You and Lincoln Riley
Speaker 1: go way back to your days at Texas Tech. He
Speaker 1: coached him at Oklahoma, so I'm sure you've talked to
Speaker 1: Lincoln about him. How do you think the offense changes
Speaker 1: with him? What is the dynamic? I mean speed, that
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I see, you know that's obvious,
Speaker 1: is or something else that maybe we don't know about
Speaker 1: that we don't see about Hollywood that you've noticed so far.
Speaker 1: I'd say two things. The comfort level of the quarterback
Speaker 1: is huge. I don't think you can put a number
Speaker 1: on that as far as how valuable that is. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been best friends for the last whatever five six years.
Speaker 1: When you watch them play together, the communication, you know
Speaker 1: they're on the same page from day one, and that
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. And then when I called Lincoln
Speaker 1: and just did some background, he basically told me this
Speaker 1: the best practice player I've ever had. So to have
Speaker 1: a guy like that that goes down to grinds each
Speaker 1: and every day at practice, puts in the work, Those
Speaker 1: are the type of guys you want on your team
Speaker 1: to set the example. Is there a piece of your
Speaker 1: offense that's under the radar? Last year, when you and
Speaker 1: I had this conversation, you said AJ Green and AJ had,
Speaker 1: you know, had a really good hear You look overall
Speaker 1: at where he is from an age standpoint, what you're
Speaker 1: asking from him. He had a good year. Wasn't a
Speaker 1: perfect year, but he had a good year. Is there
Speaker 1: a piece of your offense that you're really excited about
Speaker 1: that maybe we won't know until we get into camp
Speaker 1: and we're seeing it with our own eyes watching practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned AJ just wanted to shout him
Speaker 1: out here. I mean I think he had close to
Speaker 1: nine hundred yards and really, after you had COVID, I
Speaker 1: felt like that hurt him and he came back and
Speaker 1: the rhythm wasn't quite there, but he was tremendous for
Speaker 1: us and a big reason why the offense improved dramatically.
Speaker 1: I would say a guy that doesn't get talked about
Speaker 1: and had whatever twenty touchdowns last year is James Connor.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought he was tremendous running, catching, blocking,
Speaker 1: whatever he did. I don't see his name mentioned much,
Speaker 1: and I can't tell you how how big a surprise
Speaker 1: he was last year. And to watch him practice, the
Speaker 1: way he cares stuff in the locker room, the amount
Speaker 1: of respect our team has for that guy, I expect
Speaker 1: him to have a monster year. Which young guys, rookies
Speaker 1: in particular, caught your eye in the summer that you're
Speaker 1: really excited about seeing in training camp and in preseason games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Trey obviously very productive at Colorado State. Being
Speaker 1: able to do some twelve personnel stuff with him and
Speaker 1: Zach put both those guys in the field could be
Speaker 1: a matchup problem for teams at times, and so we
Speaker 1: got to get him up to speed. But he's definitely
Speaker 1: has a real natural fill at catching the football and
Speaker 1: running routes. And then the two rush guys, you know,
Speaker 1: Cam Thomas, j Sanders. Excited to see what they can do.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be raw and young, and we know that
Speaker 1: but both explosive guys that have practice really hard and
Speaker 1: some of the young old line weary drafted later. I
Speaker 1: thought they really showed up in camp and you got
Speaker 1: to put pads on and see what they're all about.
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones isn't here anymore, but you still have a
Speaker 1: lot of talent on that side of the ball. Is
Speaker 1: there a player in particular that when you talk with Vance,
Speaker 1: you guys are like, man, this is going to be
Speaker 1: his year. We got a feeling about this, dude, anybody
Speaker 1: I'd say Isaiah Simmons. I think we've found a role
Speaker 1: for him that we feel like and maximize what he
Speaker 1: does best. And he's such a dynamic athlete and when
Speaker 1: he's not thinking and just playing fast and attacking the football,
Speaker 1: good things having for us. And there's year three in
Speaker 1: the system. I really saw some nice flashes this offseason,
Speaker 1: and I expect him to play really well. One of
Speaker 1: the things you talked about that I want to touch
Speaker 1: on is the continuity with the coaching staff. You don't
Speaker 1: have that everywhere this day and age. Guys are leaving
Speaker 1: further jobs or they're just not brought back. How important
Speaker 1: is that for someone in your position? That's got a
Speaker 1: we'll see all of it and run everything. It's everything,
Speaker 1: particularly our staff. I basically see it as I have
Speaker 1: two other head coaches with me. We're talking about Jeff Rogers,
Speaker 1: who is a tremendous football mind and has been in
Speaker 1: this league for a long time, and then VJ has
Speaker 1: been a head coach, should be a head coach again,
Speaker 1: probably will be next year. And so just to be
Speaker 1: able to work alongside those guys, to be able to
Speaker 1: pick their brains, get good insights, say hey, you got
Speaker 1: the special teams, you got defense, and let's all come
Speaker 1: together and we'll get this thing done. It's been tremendous
Speaker 1: for me. Part of training camp this year, so to speak,
Speaker 1: will be the joint practices with the Titans. How do
Speaker 1: you see that being positive for the team and its
Speaker 1: growth here in year four? For you, We're going to
Speaker 1: be smart, like I mentioned, with some of those veteran guys,
Speaker 1: and they won't see a lot of reps in the
Speaker 1: preseason games. We're going to try to make sure we
Speaker 1: practice hard during the week and then be smart as
Speaker 1: far as those guys reps go. So to be able
Speaker 1: to get a controlled type practice there against a team
Speaker 1: that was you know number one, seeing the AFC last year,
Speaker 1: very well coached, tremendous talent, get a good week or
Speaker 1: practice against them, travel going the roads, from the bonding stuff.
Speaker 1: I just think it'll be a real positive for us.
Speaker 1: What about hard knocks? What are your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: cameras being around all the time. And you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things that I remember from watching it was
Speaker 1: I think people watch it because they want to see
Speaker 1: what the interactions like when a guy gets cut. And
Speaker 1: I remember Wade Phillips when he's a coach of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and watching his heart talking to the players. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have cameras around you all the time, and
Speaker 1: I know you have. You know, you're a pretty private guy.
Speaker 1: You don't want people knowing all your business, which I
Speaker 1: totally understand and respect. So what's it going to be
Speaker 1: like for you? Yeah, I mean it's not going to
Speaker 1: be comfortable to start. And I think everybody I have
Speaker 1: called and talked, that's talked with that that has had it,
Speaker 1: basically said when things are going good, everybody loves it.
Speaker 1: When it's not, they don't. And so I think that's
Speaker 1: just human nature. But anytime a camera has ever been
Speaker 1: on me in my life. It's maybe want to be
Speaker 1: better and step of and I think that's how every
Speaker 1: athlete is. And so in my estimation that point in
Speaker 1: the season, we obviously haven't played that great end of
Speaker 1: the season. Hey, that may be the shout the arm
Speaker 1: we need that. Everybody's got a step up. Nobody wants
Speaker 1: to look bad on TV with Ray Donovan, you know,
Speaker 1: containing on it about you know what's going on there
Speaker 1: on the show. So I think it'd be tremendous. We
Speaker 1: got to approach the right way. But we have some
Speaker 1: great stories on our team. We have some great guys
Speaker 1: that do amazing things as the community. So to highlight
Speaker 1: some of that as well, I think it could be
Speaker 1: a really great thing for this organization. Well, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you with the extension and I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing what you guys do here in year four.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Dave th thanks man. A lot of great
Speaker 1: stuff there from Cliff Kingsbury, in particular Kyler Murray. With
Speaker 1: the news coming down that Kyler's got a contract extension,
Speaker 1: he is the franchise quarterback for the foreseeable future, Cliff
Speaker 1: talked about the areas where Kyler grew last year, and
Speaker 1: then what he expects from his quarterback this year and beyond.
Speaker 1: With Cliff getting the extension, Steve come and now Kyler,
Speaker 1: They're all attached for many years to come and hopefully
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