WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Kliff Kingsbury 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:08.479 Welcome to a post vacation, pre training camp edition of 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:12.760 the Dave Pass Podcast with Cardinals head coach Cliff Kingsbury. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.840 Our first repeat guest on this podcast, which launched at 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.840 this time last year, and obviously the news of the day, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.480 Kyler murray five year contract extension stays with the Cardinals 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.040 through at least twenty twenty eight. This was inevitable. You 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.720 knew it was coming. It was just a matter of when, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.120 not if Cliff and I get into Kyler's extension at 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.600 length and in particular the steps that Kyler took last 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.400 year to help get the Cardinals to the postseason, and 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.120 now what's it going to take for Kyler to continue 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.440 to grow in twenty twenty two and beyond to hopefully 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.199 help the Cardinals win multiple championships. The contract deal I 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.680 feel really good about. We know he's our future here. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:57.600 I mean the talent I have said it since I 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.840 got here is generational. We also discuss Rondelle Moore, a 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.120 player that Cliff has his ion for an increased role 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:09.440 in twenty twenty two. 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Yeah, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.440 it may just flow, you may just be on autopilot. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.240 But I've been there, so I understand the pain. And 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.760 you were saying when you went before, you drove right 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.400 in Italy, Yeah, which was a bad, bad mistake. I 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.400 was terrified. I mean, your little roads can't tell if 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.799 it's sidewalk, if it's the road, and then when you're 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.200 winding around by the coast, it's absurd. We've we've gone 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.560 a bunch. We never drive because you can't. I was 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.680 mentioned it before. It's like you giving me your playboga 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.800 and stay higo call the first quarter. Yeah, I'd look 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.000 at and be like, Okay, this doesn't look real. Yeah, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.000 I don't know, and good luck asking directions. They'll give 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.040 you back straight Italian. Just to put a point like, 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.040 you're not you're not getting the English version. I go 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.239 to assure you. But it is a beautiful place. You 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:03.880 just got to make sure you have a driver. Did 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.440 you get some time off? I did. Yeah, I snuck 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.920 away for quite a while. I try to stay away 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:14.200 and just detach and got back last weekend and ready 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.440 to roll. How hard is that for a guy like 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.160 you that lives and breathe it. You're in here so early, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.000 it's it's football all the time. How hard is it 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.720 for you to detach completely? Yeah, the first week you 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.399 literally feel a lot of anxieties, some depression, I think 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.919 because you're just so structured and what you do and 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.160 so used to getting up doing this, working out, studying film. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.760 But then once you can kind of get past it, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.360 it's great to unwind, just get your mind away from it. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.760 The beautiful part about NFL compared to colleges, I don't 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.200 even hear from another coach, I don't hear from anyone 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.840 about football where they're your constant contact, monitoring players, recruits, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.880 all that. So that's really nice. You can completely detach 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.440 from the game. So Camp is right around the corner, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.440 and I'm just curious in your four how will can't 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.200 be different this year or do you think it'll be 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.560 pretty much the same as we've seen the last couple 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.080 of years, now that you're in a groove here at 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.000 this level. Yeah, hopefully the starting point would be completely 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.200 COVID free, you know, as far as the testing and 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.920 requirements we've had that last couple of years, which will 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.520 will help. I think camp's already at a certain level 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.800 of anxiety and stress upon everybody because it's such a grind, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.919 and to take that away really help. But then we 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.680 have a very veteran team. You know, a lot of 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:33.119 our key contributors are getting older. Still very very good players, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.039 but getting older. So we got to make sure that 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.560 that their health is number one and getting the work 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.080 they need. They know how to get ready for the 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.159 season at getting the work they need, but making sure 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.440 they're healthy and ready to go for week one. And 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.640 I know, as I asked this question, there's only so 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.080 much you can say, but how will the offense be different? 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.360 Do you think this year, at least what we can 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.839 see on the outside. Yeah, I think every year you 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.960 try to maximize your personnel, and we have some guys 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.479 coming back that I'm really excited about. Obviously I won't 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.359 have hop the first part of the season, but getting 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.200 him back will be huge. You sell the difference in 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.400 offensive production when he was on the field him when 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.520 he wasn't having a j second year in the system. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.680 Zach ERT's getting a full off season in the system. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.080 Rondel Moore, We're all excited about him stepping up and 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.760 the things he can do in the slot there and 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.080 then the trade for Hollywood Brown I think was huge 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.880 that to have a speed he can really take the 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.080 top off the coverage. I have a lot of our 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.440 O line backs, so our guys know the system. Want 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:31.920 to be able to play faster. I want to be 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.200 able to mix send more tempo and really be aggressive 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.200 on offense with all that that talent. So I had 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.599 Zecherts on the pot and he mentioned I asked him about, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.400 you know, the offense, how do you get through the 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.279 first six games? How does it look? He said, you know, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.960 I may be out there some at that position, the 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.080 exposition right, Oh, no doubt. We gotta like I said, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.720 we gotta try to find matchups, maximize a personnel. And 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.640 I think his comfort level with the offense now compared 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.800 to last year's this night and day when he came in, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:58.680 we were just trying to get him game planned, a 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.320 game plan and that was the overall understanding of each position, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.800 where everybody goes on each play is top notch. And 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.799 I expect him to take a big step. You mentioned 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:12.440 last year and when d Hop went down, how things changed? 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.000 Was it that simple cliff as you back and kind 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.200 of watch when you lose a player that's, you know, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.400 future Hall of Famer that's still in his prime. Did 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.479 it really just come down to that? What were some 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.320 of the other things. Is you went back and kind 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.360 of look through everything at what went well, but also 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.440 what didn't go well towards the end of the year. Yeah, 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.760 I'd say from an offensive standpoint, if you lose a 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.960 guy who's your your number one guy, teams can play 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.320 you differently. And I don't think I did a great 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.039 job adjusting to that and playing to our strengths. We 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.960 kind of kept rolling as is and it just didn't 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.480 produce like like we wanted to. So I gotta take 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.560 a lot of responsibility for that. But I just felt 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.360 like down the stretch we didn't coach as well and 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.000 we didn't play as discipline as we could have. You know, 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.880 I think you're losing obviously, hot and then JJ Watt 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.680 on defense, just what he brings on and off the 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.200 field was huge. But we got to be able to 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.360 overcome that and continue to play at the level that 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.480 we had started at. So hopefully we can learn from 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.320 that and be better this season. Still, you look back, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.680 you made the playoffs, and you've taken strides each year. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.360 And I know at the time everybody, obviously including you guys, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.040 are all upset at the way the season ended. But 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.600 as you look back, how do you feel like the 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.720 program grew? Last year? It was huge. I think everybody 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.120 understands now we can compete with anybody. I think even 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.960 going into last year, everybody picked us fourth in the 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.720 Division tupest division of football, which it is, and we 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.560 were playing a home game to win the division, last 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.600 game of the year. And so to come from where 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.600 we started where that year one, I'm like, we're never 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.960 going to catch these guys, you know, because playing the 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.800 Rams and the forty nine ers of their peak, and 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.400 then you had Russell playing at a high level, they 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.000 won the division. They were twelve and four in twenty 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.800 twenty or whatever, three really really good teams. And so 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.840 to be in that position and take those steps each year, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.680 we feel like we have a chance to take another 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.080 step and love the core that we have coming back, 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.600 excited about some of the additions we made, and I 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.560 can't wait to get started. I know you don't pay 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.480 a ton of attention to what's being said in the 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.840 media locally and also nationally, but obviously when things are 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:19.120 going great. Cliff Kingsbury's a genius and you get the 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.640 contract extension? Was what were those conversations like with Michael 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:29.200 And did you feel a sense of accomplishment relief? I 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.520 know you feel like you still have work to do, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:31.760 but what did it mean to you to get the 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.559 extension of this offseason. I'm just excited to continue the progress, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.000 you know. I think when I took this job, Michael 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.360 and Steve took a huge risk. Nobody'd ever hired a 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.400 fired college coach to become their head coach, and I 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.480 understood that. So I've always felt very indebted to them, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.320 very grateful to that opportunity. So continue to try and 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.360 grow this organization and progress the way we have, which 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.520 is when more and more games each year, get better 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.800 in every phase each year. That's the goal. And we're 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.720 all this point and how it ended, but we like 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.199 where this thing's headed and excited about this upcoming year. 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.800 How do you think you've changed, Cliff? Do you have 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.440 more of an edge last year because I noticed your 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.640 interaction with the officials maybe early in the season was 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.480 different than at least what we saw. And I remember 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.240 doing a Texas Tech game early on and I was 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.160 talking to some folks there and they're like, you know, Cliffs, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.000 that's how Cliff is. Maybe you guys are just starting 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:29.000 to see it now. So was that a different version 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.880 of you? Were you like intentional with that or is 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.240 that just you know, I'm gonna let it role, I'm 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.280 just going to be me. Yeah. I think you just 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.400 try to have a lot of self awareness and know 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.560 when it's time to speak up and no one has 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.720 time to step up. And there's definitely a certain comfort 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.040 level that comes with it as well. And so I 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.320 just feel like we have a team now with the 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.520 town to be really good a coaching staff. This's been 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:56.079 together four years. So I want to be my true 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.400 self and try to be the best version of myself 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.000 every day, and if that is getting a flagger right 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.760 now and then I'll take it. Um. But I learned 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.120 early on being nice to those refs didn't help, so 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.240 we went ahead and just went with our true selves. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.240 Last year. Well, I've always said if you can't get 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.720 along with Cliff Kingsbury, you're the one with the problem, 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.840 Like you're one of the nicest guys. And I mean 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:22.160 I usually try to present my um disagreement with them 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.320 in a in a kind manner, and I think falls 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.199 upon deaf heres, then we'll change change the tone a 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.600 little bit. You're one of the good dudes in coaching, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.800 and I've a run a lot of coaches college in 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:33.640 the NFL, and that's why I always say, if you 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.920 if you got a problem with cliff Man, that's that's 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.840 on you. That's not on that's not on cliff Um. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:45.320 So obviously everybody is curious what happens with Kyler. Kyler 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.880 is going to be a Cardinal for a long time. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.560 What's the next step? And I asked you this last 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.520 year and the things you said at the time, growing 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:56.240 as a leader we saw and making more winning plays 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.959 in the right times. And he did that, you know, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.120 I know he got hurt in a probably affected some 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.480 of his season towards the end of the year. What's 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.360 the next step for Kyler here in twenty twenty two? Yeah, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.560 I mean he's going to continue to get better. The 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.040 contract do I feel really good about. We know he's 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.440 our future here. I mean the talent I've said us 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.200 since I got here is generational with what he can 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.000 do running, throwing the football. I think last year was 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.840 kind of the perfect store for him. You get injured, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.360 and when you come back, you don't have your number 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.680 one receiver either, So that's a lot of trying to 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.959 get back up to speed. He missed a month of 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.760 really practicing and playing football, get back to the speed 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.760 while you're kind of in the playoff hunt and you 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.679 don't have your best receiver. But each year you look 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.880 at the statu you look at any wins, anything, it's 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.520 gotten dramatically better. And that's what I've been really excited about. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.120 I knew when we drafted him he had a chance 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.720 to be one of the top guys in the league, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.400 and I think he's proven that. I mean kids come 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.960 in Rookie of the Year, back to back Pro Bowls. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.240 I think he takes criticism, which we all do. I 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.760 think some of his is unfair for some reasons I 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.320 won't get into here. But we know what he brings, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.360 and every Sunday we lined up with him as quarterback, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.840 we have a real chances to win any game. You 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.880 mentioned the injury and the timing of the injury. I'm curious, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.000 did you notice. I have to think, as a young quarterback, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.560 it's hard when you're playing every week, you're rolling along 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.040 and all of a sudden you go down and now 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.719 when you come back, you're close to playoff time. You're 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.640 going to be a playoff team, and you've got to 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.800 get back to where you were with no game reps, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.000 no practice reps, those mental reps that you have with 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.600 your teammates and obviously losing d hop. Do you think 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.079 he was it hard for him to recover from that 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.360 time off just being off forget the injury, but just 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.400 being away from it. There's no doubt. I mean you're 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.600 talking didn't practice for a month, not just didn't play games, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.640 and that's hard for anybody not to mention. You're coming 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.959 back playing the Rams and you know, some of these 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.800 top top tier teams. But I think we learned from 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.959 a lot of it. I think we'll be better moving forward, 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.880 and we just got to try and when things like 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.920 that have been trying to overcome him and come back sharp. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.840 How have you seen Kyler grow in terms of the leadership, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.280 because that's what everybody wants to see. You mentioned earlier 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.760 some unfair criticism and maybe that's where it's coming from. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.640 You get a lot of people that question him nationally 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.680 about his leadership that you know aren't here and aren't 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.600 talking to his teammates, and I had JJ wat Zecher, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.920 it's Justin Pugh. Three guys in a row on this 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.319 podcast talk about his leadership in a positive way. So 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.240 the guys that he plays with every week are saying 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.960 good things about him as a leader. Yeah, I mean, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.000 I think, you know, everybody's going to have their their 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:35.600 own opinion. But the kid, like I said, he shows 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.240 up every day. He came to the worst team in 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.520 football and the worst offense by far. You know that 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.480 that had occurred in a long time in this league, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.080 and all he's done has improved every year. He's improved 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.200 the organization, he's improved the team. And because he doesn't 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.719 smile and wave at the camera every day, all of 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.679 a sudden, he's this this villain and never got in 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.640 trouble off the field. You've never heard one bad thing 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.480 about him off the field, negative towards any person in 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.600 the building. And so at times, I think, like I said, 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.240 there's certain aspects to him that draw that criticism. But 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.800 we're thrilled the progress he's made and where the thing's head. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.480 And I know he's excited about this upcoming season. Well, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.040 the bottom line is you've got a player that is 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.880 talented enough to win multiple championships and so all the 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.520 other stuff that people talk him, well, well should the 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.440 Cardinals give him the contract? Well, you're not going to 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.360 give somebody money based on whether he's happy or not. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.600 You're going to give him money based on whether he 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.920 can win you multiple championships. No direct, no question. I 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.880 mean those are few and far between. You see the 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.920 market for these quarterbacks and what guys are getting paid, 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.680 and there's very few. E lineup every Sunday and you 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.800 say we got a chance, and our guy is one 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.840 of those that gives you a chance every Sunday and 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.680 at his best. You know, I don't know who's better 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.760 in this league. Let's shift to the offensive line because 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.960 Rodney Hudson his back, I know injuries were a big 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.080 problem for him last year. How do you see the 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.200 center position playing out because you know Justin obviously got 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.480 some reps at that position in minicamp. Yes, I thought 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.160 that was great. You never know when when things could occur. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.560 Justin such a cerebral player that we could plug him 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.240 in really any position. He's played tackle for us, you know, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.960 he's played guard, could play center, and that's that's huge 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.640 for the team. But we have a real veteran group 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.280 up there. When you're talking DJ, you're talking Pugh Beach 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.560 and Rodney and then we brought in Will Hernandez who 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.880 were really excited about kind of a maller upfront. It's 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.280 a good group, very smart. You know, they challenge you 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.880 in the room while we're doing this, Why why didn't 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.600 we do that? And you love that as a as 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.320 a staff because they've seen a lot of football and 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.200 that helps you as a team. How did Rondale Moore 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.520 adapt to the NFL. I don't know what the terminology 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.400 was a produe compared to here and whether that was 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.920 an adjustment, and then how do you see his role 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.560 changing it all here in year two? For him, losing 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.240 Christian Kirk is tough because he's such a tremendous player 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:54.120 in person in this organization and so happy for where 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.120 he went and the deal he got. But Rondell was 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:58.800 definitely waiting in the wings. I mean, he thinks he's 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.240 the best player on the field every time he steps 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.920 out there, and we limited those opportunities last year just 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.480 because we had so many talented players and he had 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.640 a hard time accepting that, which is what you want. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.320 But I think anytime he was healthy and on the field, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.760 you saw the impact he made. And it's it's his 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.640 year really to show what he can do in that position, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:21.120 getting more reps, and I think we're all excited to show, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.640 you know, week one what he's about. So you mentioned 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.000 earlier Hollywood, and obviously that was for the offense of 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.040 the big move in the offseason. You and Lincoln Riley 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.680 go way back to your days at Texas Tech. He 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.160 coached him at Oklahoma, so I'm sure you've talked to 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.680 Lincoln about him. How do you think the offense changes 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.200 with him? What is the dynamic? I mean speed, that 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.560 that's the thing that I see, you know that's obvious, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.840 is or something else that maybe we don't know about 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.280 that we don't see about Hollywood that you've noticed so far. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.760 I'd say two things. The comfort level of the quarterback 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.360 is huge. I don't think you can put a number 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.280 on that as far as how valuable that is. I mean, 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.480 they've been best friends for the last whatever five six years. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.440 When you watch them play together, the communication, you know 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.280 they're on the same page from day one, and that 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.080 that's a big deal. And then when I called Lincoln 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.639 and just did some background, he basically told me this 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.280 the best practice player I've ever had. So to have 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.400 a guy like that that goes down to grinds each 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.120 and every day at practice, puts in the work, Those 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.800 are the type of guys you want on your team 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.680 to set the example. Is there a piece of your 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.639 offense that's under the radar? Last year, when you and 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.000 I had this conversation, you said AJ Green and AJ had, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.719 you know, had a really good hear You look overall 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.800 at where he is from an age standpoint, what you're 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.840 asking from him. He had a good year. Wasn't a 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.040 perfect year, but he had a good year. Is there 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.200 a piece of your offense that you're really excited about 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.200 that maybe we won't know until we get into camp 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.640 and we're seeing it with our own eyes watching practice. Yeah, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.840 I think you mentioned AJ just wanted to shout him 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:50.920 out here. I mean I think he had close to 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.639 nine hundred yards and really, after you had COVID, I 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.280 felt like that hurt him and he came back and 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.600 the rhythm wasn't quite there, but he was tremendous for 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.480 us and a big reason why the offense improved dramatically. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.760 I would say a guy that doesn't get talked about 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.359 and had whatever twenty touchdowns last year is James Connor. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.080 I mean I thought he was tremendous running, catching, blocking, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.400 whatever he did. I don't see his name mentioned much, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.840 and I can't tell you how how big a surprise 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.760 he was last year. And to watch him practice, the 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.919 way he cares stuff in the locker room, the amount 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.240 of respect our team has for that guy, I expect 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.440 him to have a monster year. Which young guys, rookies 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.160 in particular, caught your eye in the summer that you're 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.840 really excited about seeing in training camp and in preseason games. Yeah, 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.280 you know, Trey obviously very productive at Colorado State. Being 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.200 able to do some twelve personnel stuff with him and 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.320 Zach put both those guys in the field could be 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.399 a matchup problem for teams at times, and so we 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.200 got to get him up to speed. But he's definitely 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.440 has a real natural fill at catching the football and 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.960 running routes. And then the two rush guys, you know, 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.200 Cam Thomas, j Sanders. Excited to see what they can do. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:57.879 They're gonna be raw and young, and we know that 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.840 but both explosive guys that have practice really hard and 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.920 some of the young old line weary drafted later. I 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.879