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Speaker 1: Welcome to a post vacation, pre training camp edition of

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Speaker 1: the Dave Pass Podcast with Cardinals head coach Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: Our first repeat guest on this podcast, which launched at

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Speaker 1: this time last year, and obviously the news of the day,

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Speaker 1: Kyler murray five year contract extension stays with the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: through at least twenty twenty eight. This was inevitable. You

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Speaker 1: knew it was coming. It was just a matter of when,

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Speaker 1: not if Cliff and I get into Kyler's extension at

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Speaker 1: length and in particular the steps that Kyler took last

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Speaker 1: year to help get the Cardinals to the postseason, and

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Speaker 1: now what's it going to take for Kyler to continue

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Speaker 1: to grow in twenty twenty two and beyond to hopefully

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Speaker 1: help the Cardinals win multiple championships. The contract deal I

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Speaker 1: feel really good about. We know he's our future here.

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Speaker 1: I mean the talent I have said it since I

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Speaker 1: got here is generational. We also discuss Rondelle Moore, a

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Speaker 1: player that Cliff has his ion for an increased role

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. A player on defense that stands

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Speaker 1: out to Cliff, someone that impressed him during the summer

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Speaker 1: that he's really excited about seeing take the next step

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Speaker 1: him twenty four to seven, with Hard Knocks being involved

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals this summer in training camp and also

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Speaker 1: joint practices with the Tennessee Titans leading up to a

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Speaker 1: an eighteen hour flight from Alan, Italy, literally fresh off

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Speaker 1: of it, here's my conversation with Cliff Kingsbury on this

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Speaker 1: edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. So full disclosure, Cliff,

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Speaker 1: I am completely delirious as we taped this Thursday. We

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Speaker 1: got back from a month in Italy at about eleven

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Speaker 1: pm last night. Man, So this is either going to

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Speaker 1: be the worst podcast ever or perhaps the best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it may just flow, you may just be on autopilot.

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Speaker 1: But I've been there, so I understand the pain. And

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Speaker 1: you were saying when you went before, you drove right

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Speaker 1: in Italy, Yeah, which was a bad, bad mistake. I

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Speaker 1: was terrified. I mean, your little roads can't tell if

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Speaker 1: it's sidewalk, if it's the road, and then when you're

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Speaker 1: winding around by the coast, it's absurd. We've we've gone

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Speaker 1: a bunch. We never drive because you can't. I was

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Speaker 1: mentioned it before. It's like you giving me your playboga

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Speaker 1: and stay higo call the first quarter. Yeah, I'd look

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Speaker 1: at and be like, Okay, this doesn't look real. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and good luck asking directions. They'll give

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Speaker 1: you back straight Italian. Just to put a point like,

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Speaker 1: you're not you're not getting the English version. I go

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Speaker 1: to assure you. But it is a beautiful place. You

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Speaker 1: just got to make sure you have a driver. Did

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Speaker 1: you get some time off? I did. Yeah, I snuck

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Speaker 1: away for quite a while. I try to stay away

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Speaker 1: and just detach and got back last weekend and ready

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Speaker 1: to roll. How hard is that for a guy like

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Speaker 1: you that lives and breathe it. You're in here so early,

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Speaker 1: it's it's football all the time. How hard is it

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Speaker 1: for you to detach completely? Yeah, the first week you

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Speaker 1: literally feel a lot of anxieties, some depression, I think

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Speaker 1: because you're just so structured and what you do and

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Speaker 1: so used to getting up doing this, working out, studying film.

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Speaker 1: But then once you can kind of get past it,

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Speaker 1: it's great to unwind, just get your mind away from it.

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Speaker 1: The beautiful part about NFL compared to colleges, I don't

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Speaker 1: even hear from another coach, I don't hear from anyone

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Speaker 1: about football where they're your constant contact, monitoring players, recruits,

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Speaker 1: all that. So that's really nice. You can completely detach

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Speaker 1: from the game. So Camp is right around the corner,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just curious in your four how will can't

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Speaker 1: be different this year or do you think it'll be

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same as we've seen the last couple

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Speaker 1: this level. Yeah, hopefully the starting point would be completely

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Speaker 1: will help. I think camp's already at a certain level

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Speaker 1: have a very veteran team. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: our key contributors are getting older. Still very very good players,

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Speaker 1: I know, as I asked this question, there's only so

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Speaker 1: much you can say, but how will the offense be different?

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Speaker 1: Do you think this year, at least what we can

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Speaker 1: try to maximize your personnel, and we have some guys

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Speaker 1: coming back that I'm really excited about. Obviously I won't

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, We're all excited about him stepping up and

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Speaker 1: the things he can do in the slot there and

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Speaker 1: then the trade for Hollywood Brown I think was huge

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Speaker 1: that to have a speed he can really take the

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Speaker 1: able to mix send more tempo and really be aggressive

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Speaker 1: exposition right, Oh, no doubt. We gotta like I said,

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Speaker 1: we gotta try to find matchups, maximize a personnel. And

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Speaker 1: I think his comfort level with the offense now compared

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Speaker 1: we were just trying to get him game planned, a

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Speaker 1: I expect him to take a big step. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: last year and when d Hop went down, how things changed?

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Speaker 1: Was it that simple cliff as you back and kind

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Speaker 1: it really just come down to that? What were some

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Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility for that. But I just felt

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Speaker 1: to be in that position and take those steps each year,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think when I took this job, Michael

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Speaker 1: and Steve took a huge risk. Nobody'd ever hired a

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Speaker 1: How do you think you've changed, Cliff? Do you have

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Speaker 1: more of an edge last year because I noticed your

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Speaker 1: every day, and if that is getting a flagger right

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Speaker 1: now and then I'll take it. Um. But I learned

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Speaker 1: we went ahead and just went with our true selves.

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Speaker 1: Last year. Well, I've always said if you can't get

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Speaker 1: along with Cliff Kingsbury, you're the one with the problem,

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Speaker 1: Like you're one of the nicest guys. And I mean

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Speaker 1: I usually try to present my um disagreement with them

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Speaker 1: a really great thing for this organization. Well, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing what you guys do here in year four.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Dave th thanks man. A lot of great

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Speaker 1: stuff there from Cliff Kingsbury, in particular Kyler Murray. With

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Speaker 1: With Cliff getting the extension, Steve come and now Kyler,

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Speaker 1: They're all attached for many years to come and hopefully

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