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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health. How's everybody

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Speaker 1: doing on this Tuesday? Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, One Bill's Love.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here this afternoon. As we turn

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Speaker 1: the page to Bills Steelers, and there is some Steelers

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Speaker 1: news that we'll get to in just a hot second.

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Speaker 2: Here, Steve, what happened?

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Speaker 1: As you know, we have a shortened week due to

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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving holiday. We're gonna get snow on Thanksgiving here.

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Speaker 3: I heard, Yeah, I got red driving in on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 3: They may get they may hit it.

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Speaker 1: I got family flying in Wednesday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: That'll be all right, Fly.

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Speaker 1: They should be fine because it's supposed to be rain

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Speaker 1: and then it changes over to snow. But I think

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Speaker 1: I saw lake effect snow in the forecast. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's wow, well right for which impacts you more than

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Speaker 1: it does me. But I I had been prepping my snowblower.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The old girl's about twenty two years old.

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Speaker 2: Steve, snowblowers never quit, man.

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Speaker 1: The old The old girl's twenty two years old and

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Speaker 1: still cranking on the first pull I got.

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Speaker 3: I put the plow on the gator and let me

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Speaker 3: tell you something. I life changer. When I I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: found my own.

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Speaker 2: Drive a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: You have to do you have to put some cinder

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Speaker 1: blocks in the back of the gator, toway it down

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's a four wheel drive.

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Speaker 3: I've got a long driveway four wheel drive gator, and

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Speaker 3: I have not I have yet to. Now, I have

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Speaker 3: had a few user errors when I'm trying to push

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Speaker 3: a little too much, well all that stuff, like.

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Speaker 1: Too much snow. You mean, like if it's over a foot,

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Speaker 1: you probably can't push it more at.

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Speaker 3: The point where you get a pile and you're trying

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Speaker 3: to move the pile so you can push more snow

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Speaker 3: in moving. Yeah, that's that's been an issue. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: uh so, Yeah, I've had a couple of those.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's life changer.

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Speaker 3: When I stopped having a plow finger quotes a plow guy, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my life got infinitely better.

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Speaker 1: I would say my worst snow blowing experience remains snow Vember.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now, you should always we should have a

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Speaker 3: we should play ominous music when we met whenever we

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Speaker 3: mentioned snow Vember.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, snow blowed. I snow blowed four times that day

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Speaker 1: and it was at least a foot to eighteen inches

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Speaker 1: each time I went out. We got I'm in Lancaster

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Speaker 1: more down. We got ninety inches ninety inches, holy, I

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Speaker 1: think we had sixty six ninety is nuts.

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Speaker 2: And we had a house full.

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Speaker 3: We had a house full of people they came in

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Speaker 3: for that's the game of the Cleveland game.

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Speaker 2: They got moved all right. Yeah, we had a whole

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Speaker 2: house full. It was a home game.

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Speaker 3: And yeah we were four days man, all tailgate, food

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Speaker 1: Well what else are you going to do cooped up

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Speaker 1: come back in and eat.

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Speaker 2: We had plenty of alcohol that kept us going.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: I kept it going.

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Speaker 3: We might have killed each other otherwise everybody, Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: kept the body camping down.

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Speaker 2: What a line? Oh those taskers.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, I how to keep everybody happy and

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Speaker 3: It was so bad, the snow was so it was

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Speaker 3: so bad. My snow shovel and everybody's got you know,

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Speaker 1: The worst, the worst storm prior to that, even worse

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Speaker 1: than the October Surprise storm. December tenth, nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 1: was a Sunday, December tenth, and I'm driving in and

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Speaker 2: To get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I drove eight miles per hour. You could

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Speaker 1: not see. It was the worst whiteout conditions I have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've all had it. I mean I thirty.

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Speaker 1: Seven inches and twenty four hours. At that time, it

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Speaker 2: Snowfall in one I remember I was working.

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Speaker 3: CBS, I think during the October Surprise and it was

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Speaker 1: Now we got momd That was another game that got

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Speaker 3: That's right, I got snowed out. I ended up doing

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Speaker 3: the sideline game for the Detroit Bills Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Who was it they played Jets? Was Bill's Jets.

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Speaker 1: It was Jets when Rex was coaching the second time.

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Speaker 3: That's the one I'm talking about. Was that Snovember that

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Speaker 3: People remember, people tweet.

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Speaker 1: As and then the most reason one was Bill's Brown's Browns.

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Speaker 3: That was just two and a half years ago, three

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Speaker 3: years ago, something like that. But yeah, that I did

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Speaker 3: a game for CBS, did a Monday night game for CBS.

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Speaker 3: Flew back to Buffalo, flights on time. Sunshine's great except

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Speaker 2: We couldn't. I couldn't get home.

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Speaker 3: Stayed downtown, went to a Sabers game by my with

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Speaker 3: a buddy. The two of us got snowed out of

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Speaker 2: And the hockey players is all.

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Speaker 3: In the arena, guys scanned our We scalped two tickets

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Speaker 1: Across the street because he had nothing else to.

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Speaker 3: Do, got nothing else to do. We're downtown, standing at

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Speaker 3: the avant down there and guy scans our tickets, you

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Speaker 3: know the you know how you always do it. He goes,

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Speaker 3: you can sitting in where you want?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, you're sitting where you want.

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Speaker 1: You're the only two souls in here. It was that

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Speaker 2: Empty You could hear the guys talking on the ice.

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Speaker 1: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So then yeah, yeah, the whole thing, game presentation, the

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Speaker 3: I said, listen, I got to work to do to

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Speaker 3: get ready for this game on Sunday byt They go here,

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Speaker 2: So I go to Atlanta. Do that again.

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Speaker 3: They called me and said, listen, the Bills game got moved.

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Speaker 3: I go, yeah, I heard, and he goes, okay, how

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Speaker 3: about doing the sidelines for that game?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah that was that got moved to a Monday, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to give the bill you.

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Speaker 2: Do the game. I do the game on son.

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Speaker 3: So I did a game on Sunday, did a game

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Speaker 3: on Monday night, flew to Atlanta, did the game on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: On the charter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when I drove in my driveway, you could

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Speaker 3: have mowed my lawn. The snow was, remember of the

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Speaker 3: snow was all gone. There were flash flooding over.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, you're

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Speaker 3: I couldn't even get south of like you know whatever,

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Speaker 3: it was Walden. And yet when I got home from

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Speaker 3: the from the charter that five six days later, you

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Speaker 3: could if it wasn't wet. It was, but if it

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Speaker 3: no snow. Crazy we've all got We used to have

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Speaker 3: a I caught myself doing it. We used to have

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Speaker 3: a rule on my broadcast team, because you know, we

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Speaker 3: fly every weekend, everywhere, every game. We used to have

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Speaker 3: that could top it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, I get it. We've all had them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So good luck, everybody, have a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna snow. We're snow.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be in it. We're gonna be in it together.

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Speaker 3: We'll be all right, We'll be all right. It's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be snow Vember.

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Speaker 2: It's us. We're all right.

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Speaker 1: I think the worst I saw was Inland and down

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Speaker 2: It was like six to six day inches at the

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Speaker 2: high end the height. Yeah, so that's not going to

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Speaker 1: We've got to get to Bills notes. Because there was

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Speaker 1: a transaction today for the roster on the practice squad

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Speaker 1: the Bills. The reunion tour continues. Defensive end Shaq Lawson

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Speaker 1: signed to the practice squad to make room for him

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad, the Bills released defensive end Andre

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Speaker 1: much since the beginning of the season, and then, according

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Transaction Wire, the Bills have opened the

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Speaker 1: twenty one day practice window for offensive tackle Thailand Grable.

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Speaker 1: He has been on ir since the start of the

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Speaker 1: But that's what the NFL Transaction Wire had listed. So

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Speaker 1: I think with Spencer Brown unlikely to play on Sunday

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers Tyland Grable, I think if he looks

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Speaker 1: because they put Mchole Hardman on ir last week and

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Speaker 3: He's interesting. He really athletic, big enough dude, really big, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's oh yeah, it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 3: if he gets a jersey this weekend. It's been banging

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Speaker 3: around the building for a minute, so he's he should be.

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Speaker 1: Up to speed quick as most of his rookie season too,

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Speaker 1: when he had to have core muscle surgery, yeah, for

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Speaker 1: a sports hernia, and now this year he's missed most

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Speaker 1: of the year with a concussion. So he is six

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Speaker 1: five three oh nine Steve.

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Speaker 2: See yeah, oh, absolutely absolutely that the Brownie.

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Speaker 3: Just between us, the Bill signed Shack loss And and

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Speaker 3: you can imagine some Bills fans are heavy sigh because

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Speaker 3: because of the way the Bills have done this in

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Speaker 3: the past.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you go back to A J.

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Speaker 3: Klein all right, I mean they are notorious Fortnichah Hyde,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lawyer, Jordan Phillips bringing all the old gang back.

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Speaker 2: They always do.

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Speaker 1: That mid midlies like they did last year.

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Speaker 3: Right and uh, Bill's fans is just a collective eye roll.

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Speaker 3: Yeah today over the shack loss and bring back.

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 1: Talk about backlash? Ah? So those are the bills practice

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, because there is news to report on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. As head coach Mike Tomlin addressed the media,

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Speaker 1: Tomlin said his participation will dictate his availability on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Come on, what are we doing with that? But you

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Speaker 2: bet you can bet Aaron Rodgers is gonna be on

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Speaker 1: I mean, the game is gigantic for them. They've already

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Speaker 1: Steelers do know they will be without left tackle Broderick Jones.

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Speaker 3: You'd be helping Spencer as well. I mean, you got

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the way it is. He's one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been it's been a tough stretch for Lamar personally.

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Speaker 3: They're still, like you said, they're still winning games five

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Speaker 2: This last weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'll have no offense to speak.

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Speaker 3: Lamar hobbled like he has been, his play has not

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Speaker 1: What makes this interesting is it's a short week, It's

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Speaker 3: Don't kid yours. I mean the Bengals can score. They've

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Speaker 2: So the Bengals can hang it up on them.

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Speaker 1: This is their first game against the Ravens, right, don't

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Speaker 2: Yes, they do, so they takes three meeting.

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Speaker 1: They and I'm just gonna say this, as flawed as

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Speaker 2: They go Baltimore, Buffalo, Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Do the Bengals Buffalo, Baltimore, Buffalo, I'm sorry, Baltimore, Buffalo Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: First two are on the road. Yeah, that's uh, it's

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Speaker 3: a rough stretch for the Bengals. But Joe Burrow back

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Speaker 1: Are, but there are some analytics experts out there who

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Speaker 2: They play the Bills Thursday game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, much like the Bills are doing this week

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Speaker 3: They go, yeah, but if you know, they lose nine games,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can I get it. It's not

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Speaker 2: If we tank this, we're gonna get a.

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Speaker 3: Top eight pick of this draft at least, and it's

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Speaker 3: it has to come from. You can't ask the coaches

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Speaker 2: You know, the best.

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Speaker 2: But that's where the conversation is. That's where the conversation

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Speaker 3: It has to be ownership saying, all right, that's it,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna shut Joe down and make sure he's healthy

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Speaker 2: You got to play the guy.

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Speaker 1: And other quarterback injury news. Baker Mayfield's test results revealed

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Speaker 1: He has a low grade ac joint sprain. His status

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Speaker 3: They'll just pop it once and they'll be done. They'll

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Speaker 1: Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy is in the concussion protocol after

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Speaker 1: It is the third injury suffered by McCarthy during his

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Speaker 1: to Elbernard has an elbow injury. I'm wondering if he

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Speaker 1: dislocated his elbow because that was a nasty look.

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Speaker 2: He got a hit injury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, friendly fire got.

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Speaker 2: It between the runner and the in Milano. I think

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Speaker 2: it was. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's the Minnesota Vikings. For as good as good a

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Speaker 3: record as they've had for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: They stepped in it this Wow. They have had Much

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Speaker 1: like the Bills, they have had some notable injuries on defense.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Van Ginkel's missed a good portion in that season.

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Speaker 1: He's one of their best second level players, one of

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Speaker 1: the most versatile players too. And as we know, they're

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Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks, been in an out of lineup, but when

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Speaker 1: he's been in, he hasn't been great.

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Speaker 3: They chose him McCarthy over Donald right now, and they

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Speaker 3: made Donald and offer, but it wasn't right.

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Speaker 1: And what I had heard through the grapevine was that

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Speaker 1: Darnold and Kevin O'Connell, the head coach, didn't know is

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Speaker 1: see to eye.

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Speaker 2: Go fifteen to two and didn't see eye to eye.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you kind of live with it, don't you.

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Speaker 1: You would think, which is probably why they made a

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Speaker 1: cursory offer to him. But clearly they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: invest long term.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna draft. They've got a draft nother quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They may have to. They may have to. That guy

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Speaker 1: might not be.

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Speaker 2: And I hired to.

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Speaker 3: You look at you watch the guy play JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about and you just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: You know some of the guys. You see it.

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Speaker 3: You saw it with Josh, You saw things with all

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Speaker 3: these guys, may Drake, may Bo Nicks, these young quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: coming in you know anything, Okay, it's he's not perfect.

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Speaker 3: He's struggled a little bit, but you see it. You know,

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Speaker 3: you never see it with JJ. You never see it

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Speaker 3: with him. It's just you don't know if it's there

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Speaker 3: or not. And I mean they got caught in the

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Speaker 3: midst of that, you know, quarterback transition where you know

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Speaker 3: grasses and we've always everybody's every franchise has been there

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Speaker 3: at some point in their franchise history. Right where you're

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Speaker 3: going to don't have anybody, Well there's we've got a

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Speaker 3: high drafting list.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the best guy available.

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Speaker 3: I hope he's it, even though it doesn't really look

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Speaker 3: like he's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bad place.

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Speaker 1: So that's around the NFL to Coalida Health. Time now

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Speaker 1: Facts Business Technology, the official office technology company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And they've been hard at work in the

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Speaker 1: coach's office because the game plan last week was not

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Speaker 1: an effective one, and you go back to the drawing

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Speaker 1: board immediately and come up with a better plan against

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Speaker 1: a team that also has a pretty good pass rush.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers are fifth in the league in sacks.

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Speaker 1: They have thirty four in eleven games and on like

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Speaker 1: two other instances when the Bills played the Steelers. TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watts playing in this game and they're at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Bill it has been their weakness this

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Speaker 3: season when they have faced a really salty pass rush,

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Speaker 3: they've struggled. Yep, they have struggled the Atlanta game, this

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Speaker 3: game this last week.

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Speaker 2: And it's just me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that the mini by Steve afforded the

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Speaker 1: offensive staff the time and opportunity to kind of diversify

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Speaker 1: the offense a bit. Because we saw the interview with

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Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans on the Houston Texans podcast and he talked

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Speaker 1: about how the Bills made the determination that their plan

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Speaker 1: was going to be blocking therefore with their offensive lines

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Speaker 1: five and that that would be effective. And Demiko Ryans

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Speaker 1: was of the opinion that the reason he felt the

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Speaker 1: Bills went in that direction was to give Josh the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to escape the pocket with his legs if necessary.

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Speaker 1: And it was unconventional from what they had seen in

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Speaker 1: previous weeks from most other offenses, which is seven man protections,

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Speaker 1: chipping all of that stuff. The Bills went in the

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Speaker 1: completely opposite direction in terms of their protection plan, and

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Speaker 1: it's clear that that does not work right. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think it's just a Texans thing.

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Speaker 1: Although the Texans is probably the best defensive front they

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Speaker 1: will face this season, sure the Steelers can bring it too,

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Speaker 1: So I think the extra time on this mini by

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Speaker 1: was undoubtedly spent in the coach's office coming up with

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Speaker 1: a diversified protection plan and game plan. Because I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: and this is just a guy that reads stats and

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Speaker 1: doesn't make game plans or call plays, but I would

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Speaker 1: love to see them get back to the quick release

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Speaker 1: passing game that we saw in the game against the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs that worked exceptionally well. Now, granted that's a home game.

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Speaker 1: You can do better more things on offense at home,

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Speaker 1: but I would love to see them get back to that.

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Speaker 1: Because the Steelers are a are an old and slow defense.

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Speaker 1: They have given up the third most yards after catch

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Speaker 1: in the league this season, over fifteen hundred yards in

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Speaker 1: eleven games. That's one hundred and forty two yards a

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Speaker 1: game that they give up yards after catch. Get it

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Speaker 1: in your playmaker's hands, get it out of Josh's hand

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Speaker 1: quickly so you don't have to worry about this pass rush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's been we talk about it all the

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Speaker 3: time about you know what it takes to play good defense,

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Speaker 3: and it's you know, when you've got a front that

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Speaker 3: can get quick pressure with the fewest guys, it floods

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Speaker 3: the secondary, the windows closed down. You got to hold

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Speaker 3: the ball and you're sacked. That's what happened to the

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Speaker 3: Bills against Atlanta. That's what happened to Bills against Houston,

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Speaker 3: and you got to have an answer for that going

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Speaker 3: forward because that's gonna be what teams attempt to do

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: So that's from the Coach's Office, presented by CfBT. He

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Speaker 1: got to take a break here. We will get to

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Speaker 1: your topic of discussion, but before that, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: turning to the answers from the Armchair presented by Raymore

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Speaker 1: and Flannagan and courtesy of former Bill Center Mitch Morse.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that next here on one Bill's Live. Stay

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Speaker 1: with Us. From the Armchair is presented by Raymore and Flannagan.

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Speaker 1: Raymore and Flannigan is a proud partner of the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills and here to do it former Bill's Center Mitch Morse,

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Speaker 1: also host of the Monday Mornings with Mitch podcast and

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Speaker 1: our MSG viewers may not recognize him as the beard

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Speaker 1: is gone, big old handlebar mustache is still in full effect.

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Speaker 1: It is a new look for Mitch Well.

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Speaker 7: I thought I would try to look as much like

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Speaker 7: a walrus as I possibly could, And it turns out

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Speaker 7: that disciplining your children looking like an idiot, they don't

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Speaker 7: take you seriously known in this house, So.

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Speaker 1: You've unknowingly turned yourself into a cartoon character and now

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Speaker 1: they don't respect your authority.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not a cool one either, like the one that

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Speaker 7: gets picked on, or is just kind of like a dufis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah sucks. How old are your children.

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Speaker 7: Old enough to know that this looks pretty stupid?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's an unfortunate turn of events. It's an

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Speaker 3: unfortunate turn of events.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll rally. They only listen to your mom anyway,

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Speaker 1: so you know, might as well embrace it. Let's begin

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Speaker 1: with some of the better moments from last week's lost

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Speaker 1: to the Texans. And I know he had an early turnover,

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Speaker 1: but you look at his line at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game and you realize you didn't have him. The

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Speaker 1: game's probably not even.

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Speaker 7: Close without a doubt. Yes, that early turnover was less

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Speaker 7: than idea. Of course, the defense had a great defensive

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Speaker 7: stand after that held him to three points. But that

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Speaker 7: stat line was pretty tremendous in a game that the

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Speaker 7: Bills had a tough time passing the ball. Yeah, eight

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Speaker 7: receptions for one hundred and thirteen yards, and most of

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Speaker 7: those receptions were in the biggest moments of the game,

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Speaker 7: especially towards the tail end of the game when they

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Speaker 7: needed the most. I think about that third and thirteen

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Speaker 7: or third and twelve they brought the blitz, they they

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Speaker 7: threw it out to Khalil, he made a huge play

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Speaker 7: for like forty something yards down the sideline. And then,

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Speaker 7: of course, the one of the most incredible plays of

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Speaker 7: the game, which we would be talking about at nauseum

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Speaker 7: if this was a win, was that pitch at fourth

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Speaker 7: and twenty seven. I thought the Khalil is a guy,

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Speaker 7: especially with Kincaid out, that they have to keep landing on.

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Speaker 7: And I know that fans are not going to want

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Speaker 7: to hear this, but what you do in these pass

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Speaker 7: rushes as well as you do those quick screens, so

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Speaker 7: he's he's viable to break one off on a quick screen.

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Speaker 7: Check down. But even these fun plays, you can just

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Speaker 7: tell that he's gained the respect and trust of Josh

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Speaker 7: and more than anything, I think that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 7: And besides that turnover, truly this season, he's shown up

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Speaker 7: time and time and time again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what do you think as we talk about

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Speaker 3: this Houston game and you watch this fourth and twenties,

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Speaker 3: which is I think is the longest fourth down conversion

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Speaker 3: I think I've ever seen. Give us an idea about

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Speaker 3: your former center. Give us an idea about the you know,

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Speaker 3: the conversations about the pass rush and.

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Speaker 2: You know, and the plan going forward.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they're gonna have something to do with

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Speaker 3: this Steelers game that they don't want to repeat of

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Speaker 3: what happened in Houston.

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Speaker 7: True, right, And let's a spade a spade. You got

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Speaker 7: a killer out there. You have two really with high

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Speaker 7: Smith and TJ. Watt. I think this was a great

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Speaker 7: learning experience this past week. There's so many variables that

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Speaker 7: go into pass protection. Right by far, the offensive line

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Speaker 7: is the most important cog in that piece. And I

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Speaker 7: assume if you ask all five of those guys, they

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Speaker 7: wish they could have that game backer and a handful

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Speaker 7: of those plays back, but we don't know what communications

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Speaker 7: going down, what the protection was any of that. That

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Speaker 7: being said, you got to lean on the screen game,

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Speaker 7: which isn't the sexiest thing, but it keeps the defense

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Speaker 7: on us, especially when you have a defense like the Texans,

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Speaker 7: which just have werewolves out there, and then you have

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Speaker 7: to I think just communication is the biggest thing. And listen,

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Speaker 7: effort's not going to be a problem after seeing this, right,

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Speaker 7: Like guys are they're prideful, full of pride, immense pride,

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Speaker 7: Like this is a prideful group. Knowing these guys, no

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Speaker 7: one wants to see that, right, Like no one was

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Speaker 7: sleeping well that night. So they're going to double down

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Speaker 7: on everything they need to do, be professionals and have

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Speaker 7: a little stuff to them.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't what they wanted to see. Of course, it

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Speaker 7: was the stat line that hits you right in the

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Speaker 7: forehead when you opened up the stat line. But it's

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Speaker 7: the NFL time March is on and the most important

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Speaker 7: thing to do is not have a repeat perform, not

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Speaker 7: be repeat offenders, especially against a defense that still can't

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Speaker 7: rest the passer pretty darn well.

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Speaker 2: In the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Second line of Buffalo's defense has dealt with injuries pretty

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Speaker 1: much from the start, and you're looking for guys to

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Speaker 1: get back, looking for guys to give you a performance.

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Speaker 1: You know, Bernard goes down in this game, Shaq Thompson

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Speaker 1: just gets back from injury and fortunately can take over

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Speaker 1: the mic role in his absence. But you liked what

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Speaker 1: you saw from Matt Milano in this game.

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Speaker 7: I did yes defense. You know, the we've talked about before,

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Speaker 7: spark plugs and energy givers in this defense, whether it's

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Speaker 7: Cole Bishop playing pretty well or Maxwell Harrison coming in

660
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 7: playing well. I know he's out in concussion protocol right now,

661
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 7: but a guy that could really give some juice to

662
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 7: this is a guy like Matt. The way that Matt

663
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 7: Malana played this past week, turning the table, timetables, whatever

664
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Speaker 7: you want to call it back, he was playing instinctual

665
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 7: man like. The stat lines weren't crazy, but he was

666
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 7: making his presence known, whether it was tackles for losses,

667
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 7: working in space, and more often than not, I saw

668
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 7: him plugging holes, and especially in that second half when

669
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 7: our defense was playing pretty run stout defense. It was

670
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 7: just fun to see. And then you talk about Shaq Thompson,

671
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 7: a guy that still is one of the most incredible

672
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 7: speed speedsters from sideline to sideline, very instinctual. I'll be

673
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 7: interested to see those two guys.

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Speaker 6: Out.

675
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 7: Of course, Terrell's the heartbeat of this defense. He's you know,

676
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 7: he's the captain of the team. But you know, like

677
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 7: I said before, this is the NFL man time marches.

678
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 7: On that being said, if you can turn back to

679
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 7: the tables of time and get a little Matt Milano juice,

680
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 7: like we saw, the whole team was super juice to

681
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 7: see him do his thing. So I hope we get

682
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 7: a little more Matt playing free, playing instinctual, lowering his shoulder,

683
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 7: not playing timid. And that's what we saw this past week,

684
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 7: and it was fun to watch.

685
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: So a little bit they did stouting up, stiffen up

686
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: in the second half, only allowed three point they were

687
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: on pace to give up forty and then they only

688
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: allowed three in the entire second half. Really was a

689
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: night and day difference. Guys like give us an idea

690
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: of what a guy like Larry Ogunjobi, who seems to

691
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: be one of those guys who's made his reputation as

692
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: a run defender and kind of showed up in the

693
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: second half of that Houston game.

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Speaker 7: Him and everyone else showed up in that second half,

695
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 7: which is part of the gig, right, of course, you

696
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 7: want to play four quarters of tremendous football. But when

697
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 7: I saw his tackle for loss and then he had

698
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 7: another one where he was a quick swim and he

699
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 7: was just shedding blockers. More than anything, it just showed

700
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 7: me the attitude that this team and this defensive line

701
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 7: brought out in the second half, which was, I'm tired

702
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 7: of playing on my toes, I'm tired of playing timant.

703
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go out there and I'm going to execute.

704
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 7: But first things first, I'm gonna make my physicality note.

705
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 7: And it's something Larry's done since he stepped into the league.

706
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 7: It's something I told you guys when he first signed

707
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 7: with the team. I hated playing against the guy because

708
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 7: your neck was sore because of he was going to

709
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 7: smack you in the mouth.

710
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: Man.

711
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 7: And when you see that from this defense, you see

712
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 7: these guys playing with unabashedful energy, right, That's infectious and

713
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 7: it keeps going. And that's what this team needs. It

714
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 7: needs that energy, it needs that juice that they played

715
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 7: with him that second half on defense, and I thought

716
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 7: Larry set the tone on that and everyone else followed suit.

717
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: It was really fun to see and we hope, I

718
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 7: hope rather that we see a bunch of it more

719
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 7: often because that energy is infectious.

720
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Speaker 1: Dude, Mitch, I know you were here when you know,

721
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: you guys were last in Pittsburgh, you know, and you

722
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: had to deal with that whole Renegade song. And I

723
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: remember coach was playing at the entire practice week to

724
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: the point where you guys got to the fourth quarter

725
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: and you kind of made it your own. I still

726
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: remember Barkley swinging his jacket around the sideline to the

727
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: Renegade song. It's like, you made it your own. What

728
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: is what is coaches like mental head game that he's

729
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: that he's working there to make you guys feel more

730
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: comfortable in a hostile environment like that when the crowd

731
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Speaker 1: gets amped.

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Speaker 7: I mean just being there and sing it for a

733
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 7: few times. When that Renegade song does come on, it

734
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 7: is pretty funky. It's pretty cool, man, Like, you can

735
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 7: feel it. The energy is. It's a rambunctious energy and

736
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 7: it's hard not to steve. You can attest this if

737
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 7: you're an opposing player and it's a big game, and

738
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 7: they put something on that gets the crowd going, and

739
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 7: you're in the moment. It's liable just as well to

740
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 7: fire up the opposing sideline as it is for the

741
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 7: home team. So yeah, you want to get the novelty

742
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 7: out of it. You also want to set the expectation

743
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 7: of what's to come. But I also think more than anything,

744
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 7: it just sets the tone of who you are playing.

745
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 7: You're playing one of the staples in the NFL. When

746
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 7: you talk about the NFL, you talk about a few teams.

747
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 7: The Pittsburgh Steels are one of them. They're going to

748
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 7: play a certain type of offense and certain type of

749
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 7: defense and that AFC North and that's physical football. So

750
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 7: more than anything, it just kind of reminds you of

751
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 7: the type of game you're going to come into. Of course,

752
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 7: that part of the game in the fourth quarter going

753
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 7: to be electric if they decide to go. That's the

754
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 7: play is that you want to beat them so bad

755
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 7: that they don't give the crowd that satisfaction. But yeah,

756
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 7: I think you just want to lose a novelty and

757
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 7: also hammer the point home of who you are truly playing.

758
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Le's what for me, Mitch, I've been making this point

759
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: you can. I'd be interested to hear your take on it,

760
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: whether it's true or whether you agree or not. One

761
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: of the reasons the Bills have been so up and

762
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: down at home versus on the road this year, they've

763
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: really struggled on the road and been better at home. Certainly,

764
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: they were undefeated last year in their home environment. One

765
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: of the reasons for this, I think is the fact

766
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: that the engine of the team, obviously with Josh and

767
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: the defending MVP, the engine of the team is the offense.

768
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: And it's much more difficult to play offense on the road,

769
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: particularly when your pre snap communication, pre snap shifts, pre

770
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: snap checks are so prevalent, such a prevalent part of

771
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: your offense, it's much more difficult to make that go

772
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: and they're therefore, or when the engine of your team

773
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: is really at a disadvantage on the road, it's much

774
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: harder to play well on the road than it would

775
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: be is if the Bill's defense was the engine. You know,

776
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: they were a stifling, run stuffing, pass rushing team that

777
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: you know, held opponents down on the scoreboard. That'd be

778
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: a much better road team than the one that the

779
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: way the Bills are currently constructed.

780
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 7: That's a really good point, Steve. I would say the

781
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 7: offense to date, especially this year, has been the catalyst

782
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 7: for this team and how the ship rolls.

783
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Right.

784
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 7: I really do like the way that that defense stiffened

785
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 7: up and kind of took a personality of their own

786
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 7: and took on that when they took the field, it

787
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 7: was us versus the world, And of course you want

788
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 7: to do that as a team. And yes, when you

789
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 7: play away as an offense, you know this, especially places

790
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 7: that are rambunctious that I thought Energy Stadium was a

791
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 7: pretty rambunctious place to play football. As day, They're going

792
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 7: to make it difficult as possible. You have to rely

793
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 7: on your non verbal communications. It's tough to make those

794
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 7: special adjustments. And then you also add to the fact

795
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 7: that people have a little more juice and stands because

796
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 7: the Buffalo Bills have play pretty good football these last

797
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 7: few years and they have the reigning you know, NFL MVP,

798
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 7: and what do they want to see that they want

799
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 7: to see those guys fumble. So yeah, I think it

800
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 7: really bodes for the defense. You got to put the

801
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: ball in the defense's court. It's not totally fair, but

802
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 7: it's the truth. But if you get that, if we

803
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 7: get if we get that little magical special sauce kind

804
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 7: of like what this mustache has got going on right

805
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 7: here for the defense when you play away, that sparks

806
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 7: the energy man talking about it. Beat it to death

807
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 7: coach speech. I don't give two damns. That's the truth, dude.

808
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: Mitch, Thanks for the time. Is always good luck with

809
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: the mustache wax. We look forward to different iterations of

810
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: this carpet for your mouth next week.

811
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys are great man. I appreciate the love.

812
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you later.

813
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Smitch Morris joining us for from the armchair as he

814
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: does every week, by Raymond and Flanagan. You got to

815
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, we'll open

816
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: up the phone lines and also do a little game

817
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: day mentality. All come on your way next Here on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health,

819
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Game Day Mentality is presented by

820
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Best Self Behavioral Health, official mental health partner of the

821
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Steve, I want to get into the game

822
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: day mentality of the Bills defense because Bobby Babbage, defensive coordinator,

823
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: has said that they want to make adjustments sooner in games.

824
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: They don't want it to happen in the third quarter,

825
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: they want it to happen on the second and the

826
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: third series. How does a player prepare their mentality to

827
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: be ready to adjust on the fly and then execute

828
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: effectively sooner in games. How do you get there?

829
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: You got to think about how that went for the

830
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: Bills first half to second half last week.

831
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: They give them twenty points in the first half and.

832
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: To a backup quarterback, to a backup quarterback, and then

833
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: shut it down completely in the second half, gave up

834
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: just three. That's a big difference. And the ability to

835
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: do that by a coaching staff and the players, of course,

836
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: is I mean, that's what it has to happen as

837
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: an NFL franchise. You got to have the ability to

838
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: adjust like that and only the and I'm sure McDermott

839
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: and the coaching staff they'll have meetings about I don't

840
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: know whether it's a logistical problem or whether it's your

841
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: defensive staff, you know, not being able to communicate over

842
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: the headsets down to the sidelines well and enough because

843
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: certainly at halftime somebody's getting the message right.

844
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: Well, they got guys down there.

845
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, and they can talk to them, right.

846
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: I just don't know why it would take a twelve

847
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: minute intermission to go down and look somebody in the

848
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: eye and say here's what we're going to do and

849
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 3: why and why they can't do that like between series,

850
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: because if you get you know, if you in a

851
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: game like this, you have that kind of time if

852
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 3: if the other offense or the other if your own

853
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: offense Josh Allen and crew are having some time of possession,

854
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: you have time to get that done between series.

855
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: So it's really it is a little bit of a.

856
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Question as to why you can't do that, you know, certainly,

857
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: and it's not just the builds. I mean every team

858
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: does that. They can make major adjustments at the half,

859
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: but to know that, you know, what secret sauce is

860
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: there that you can look into guy's eyes and say

861
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: here's why or whatever, because there's got to be something

862
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: in that, because that has been something that not only

863
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: the offense has done, but also the defense is done,

864
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: but also the offense is done. You know, they've come

865
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: out after halftime and done that as well. But you

866
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: can bet they're having the same exact same conversation we're

867
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: having right now. They've had it ten times. You know,

868
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: whenever it happens, you look back at at you know,

869
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: the in the second quarter, you've got to right after

870
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: the start of the of the second quarter. In this

871
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: last game against Texans, you've got seven. You got a

872
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: long drive, a seven minute drive by Buffalo. It starts

873
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: at their own five, it goes sixty nine yards. So

874
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: there's like a long stretch in that moment of the

875
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: game where you could straighten some things out defensively. Uh,

876
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: there's you know, there's always moments now certainly you know

877
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: when Josh comes in throws a two han chest pass

878
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: for a pick, you don't have time to adjust from

879
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: the first series, right, But you're talking about you're talking

880
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: about some time where they can sit down and analyze it. Now,

881
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: whether it's down the staff where the analytics guys, the

882
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: quality control guys that are sitting behind the coordinators in

883
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 3: the booth, you know how that is, there's like nine

884
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: thousand guys up there. Whether it's taking them a little

885
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: bit to digest that information, get it and crank it

886
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: through their their process so they can get the information

887
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: they want to do. But it also maybe it's a

888
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: it's a staff decision where it say, what do you

889
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 3: guys think, Well, here's what they're doing to us. They're

890
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: blocking us up here, they're doing this, and their their

891
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: philosophy is they obviously think our interior offensive line is

892
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: this and that or their defensive interior line is this

893
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: and that is this is how we should attack them.

894
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: Those are long com kind of drawing out conversations that

895
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: you have from information you've gotten from their game plan.

896
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: Maybe it's taking them too long to distill let information down.

897
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones at eight O three oh

898
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

899
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: Topic of discussion for you today? What kind of win

900
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: will calm your nerves on Sunday against the Steelers? Eight

901
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

902
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Tamiran and Richmond, what's up me, Ron.

903
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 4: He Jean, Please take my call? Just two quick, two

904
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: quick comments. Please just address the question. I think anyone

905
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: will help will help make me less little anxious about

906
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: how the steading is going. But the two questions I

907
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: had is first in reference Chris, you made a comment

908
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 4: I don't know because the last year or two shows

909
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: there that he thought there's an overall lack of speed

910
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: in the defense. And I'm wondering what position groups you

911
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: do you see that lack of speed and from those groups,

912
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: what kind of two position groups do you think upgrading

913
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: speed would make a lasting impact on the defense or

914
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: And then my next question was for Steve.

915
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 8: Steve, are you going to be signed the autographs in

916
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 8: Philadelphia on September on the summer twelfth, Jim, Andre and

917
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 8: uh Derman Towns are going to be there, so I

918
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 8: was moving to get a fansher from another feature Hall

919
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 8: of Famer.

920
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

921
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, true thing.

922
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't have plans to be in Philly.

923
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a no for seating they.

924
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: They haven't asked me yet. I doubt it.

925
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: No, I was supposed to be in Charlotte a few

926
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: not Charlotte, Richmond a few weeks in Charlotte, Charlotte.

927
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Charlotte.

928
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be in Charlotte a few weeks

929
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: ago and I had a family matter come up and

930
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 3: I could I had to cancel late.

931
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: Uh So.

932
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: Unfortunately I couldn't make that one. But yeah, they happen

933
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: every so often and sometimes I'm there and sometimes not.

934
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 3: But I have no plans to be in Philly. Thanks

935
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: for asking.

936
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, he.

937
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Didn't have the right date for that though, he said

938
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: December December twelve.

939
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some guys that they have shows around the

940
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: plate around. In any event, we're getting talked to an

941
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: our ear. That's why we're having this guy.

942
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, in any event. As far as the defense goes,

943
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: I think up front, you don't have a speed rusher

944
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: off the edge. You have speed to power rushers. There's

945
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: no one that really threatens an offensive tackle with pure speed,

946
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, to run the hoop, get underneath an armpit

947
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: of a tackle and get to the quarterback in two

948
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 1: point two seconds. That is not on this roster right now.

949
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: You don't have a sub four or five, a sub

950
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: four to six linebacker on this roster. Maybe Dorian Williams

951
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, but I don't believe that's the case.

952
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: And you don't have you have speed in your secondary

953
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: because you've drafted Max Hairston. Cole Bishop has played faster

954
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: as he's become more comfortable with the system, so I'm

955
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: encouraged there, but I think the front seven needs more

956
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: speed and athleticism, so that would be the priority for me.

957
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: And as I've said more than once already, it is

958
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: a good linebacker draft this year with athletes. They need

959
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: to get some athletes at that position, and I would

960
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: not be opposed to getting a true speed, bend the

961
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: edge rusher for this defense. Joey Bosa's contract is up,

962
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: so too is aj Epeness's. You could be getting subtractions

963
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: just by the expiration of contracts. I know people are

964
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: tired of defensive line draft choices by this team that

965
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: haven't panned out, but that doesn't mean you stop swinging.

966
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: So that's just where I'm at on that. Gotta take

967
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: a break. We're at the top of the hour. When

968
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: hour number two begins, it'll be with our good friend

969
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: Dan Orlofski, ESPN NFL analyst. We'll talk Texans with him

970
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and what happened with the protections there and then take

971
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: a look ahead at the Steelers. We'll do that next

972
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live.

973
00:50:41,800 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 5: Stay with Us.

974
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. That an

975
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: hour of the show on Tuesday can mean only one thing.

976
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: It means ESPN NFL analystyan Orlowski joins us his appearances

977
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Caesar Sportsbook and official

978
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: mobile sports betting partner of the Buffalo Bills and Dan.

979
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: We're not going to spend too much time on that

980
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: disaster in Houston, but the protection scheme was of major

981
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: interest to a lot of Bills fans, so we wanted

982
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on it. Bills largely chose to

983
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: protect their quarterback with five against their four for most

984
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: of the game. There were some minor variations here and there.

985
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: The question to you is, when it became readily apparent

986
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: that that wasn't an effective approach, ye, why not pivot

987
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: to more max protect, more chipping, more running the football

988
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: a screen game of some kind. What what would be

989
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: the reasons not to pivot there and maybe stay the course.

990
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, So Friday morning, my biggest complaint was not enough chipping.

991
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 6: You know, you don't necessarily want to max protect against

992
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 6: the unit that can cover to the links that they

993
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 6: can cover. There's a reality to here, Chris, that this

994
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 6: is just an elite defense, and certainly at home, an

995
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 6: elite unit that you know, unless you're playing almost flawless

996
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 6: offensive football, you're going to be in some uncomfortable situations

997
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 6: that lend to the defense having an advantage.

998
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 9: I would have liked more chips, you.

999
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 6: Know, screen game, Yes, you got to be so good

1000
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: with your screen game, and a lot of different situations

1001
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 6: because this is a downhill defense, and so the way

1002
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 6: that they fly to the football, you know, sometimes the

1003
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 6: gates screens. I thought some of the things that were

1004
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 6: lacking were one. I do not believe that James had

1005
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 6: enough undercenter runs. You know, you can go back to

1006
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 6: the first long touchdown under center run on maybe not

1007
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 6: obvious rundowns I would have preferred.

1008
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 9: I think the.

1009
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 6: Second thing was just not not enough enough. Chipping is

1010
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 6: dean elite, no question, He's a He's a high end

1011
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 6: left tackle. Those guys get paid as well, and they're

1012
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 6: tremendous player. Spencer Brown's a really good player. The other

1013
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 6: the other guys are in their scholarships too, And so

1014
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 6: that was probably my third biggest or my second biggest complaint.

1015
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 6: And then my third thing was I just thought some

1016
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 6: situational play calls left a lot to be desired. And

1017
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 6: I say that with respect to Joe it just at times.

1018
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 6: That's kind of been something that's reared its ugly head.

1019
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: This year, and generally speaking, when you've got a defense

1020
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: in Houston that's as good as it is playing at home.

1021
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: If they can get quick, consistent pressure with just four guys,

1022
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, that's I've called it the magic elixir for

1023
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: defenses in the NFL. If you can get quick, consistent

1024
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: pressure with four guys, everything else takes care of itself.

1025
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: There's so many guys in the back end, all the

1026
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: windows close down and they can do just about anything

1027
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: they want in the back end. And that's kind of

1028
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: what happened against Houston, right, I mean, four guys pressuring

1029
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: they got there quick. Josh had to pull it down

1030
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: and move around quick or find somebody to get rid

1031
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 3: of it too, and the windows were just not there.

1032
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, So Steve, I would say this one. They have

1033
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 10: two of the six best pass rushing defensive ends in football,

1034
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 10: and arguably each of them would be in your top ten,

1035
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 10: and then Duo could be the best. They have linebackers

1036
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 10: there are about as fast as anybody. They got a

1037
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 10: corner that his ball skills, I would put up and

1038
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 10: don't take it. From me, defensive players say they're the

1039
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 10: best in the NFL ball skills wise. They got safeties

1040
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 10: that are long and rangy and athletic, and they got

1041
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 10: another corner that is probably one of the better cover

1042
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 10: corners in the league.

1043
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 9: He just gets overshadowed by Stingley.

1044
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't want to make excuses for Buffalo's offense,

1045
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 6: but they can get home quick and there's nowhere to

1046
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 6: go with the football and so Max protect. But then

1047
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 6: they've got six guys covering three. Get them all out

1048
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 6: only five man protection and try to win. But then

1049
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 6: also you're stretching that protection. So yeah, there's a reason

1050
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 6: why Houston's climbed back into the conversation. You're not going

1051
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 6: to see another defense outside of Denver that's going to

1052
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 6: be similar to that unit. But those are two of

1053
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 6: the best units in football.

1054
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Spinning it forward to a Pittsburgh defense. In Pittsburgh, once again,

1055
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: you're on the road against another defense that can rush

1056
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: the pass or thirty four sacks on the season, if

1057
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: best in the league. We know TJ. Wattson All World player,

1058
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: and the Bills are very likely putting Ryan Vandermark on

1059
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: the field at right tackle in place of an injured

1060
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown this week? So how do you best facilitate

1061
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: the protection plan? And I'm not trying to bag on

1062
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: Vandermark here, but he's a swing tackle for a reason.

1063
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: He's got two really good tackles in front of him

1064
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: in the lineup. But how do you best avoid a

1065
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: repeat of last week? Again? Steelers not the Texans, but

1066
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: still a pretty good front.

1067
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1068
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a game when you get into

1069
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 6: those passing situations, and let's call them obvious passing situations.

1070
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 6: Obviously early downs, certainly some more play action, which is

1071
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 6: something that I would like, and a lot of your

1072
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 6: RPO and screen game, but obvious passing situations. It starts

1073
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 6: with where's ninety. Okay, we're gonna help ninety. Where ninety

1074
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 6: is TJ Watt more often than not. Now we'll see

1075
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 6: if high Smith plays. I don't believe he did last

1076
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 6: week for Pittsburgh. We're gonna to help where TJ.

1077
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: Watt is.

1078
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 6: If they want to put TJ versus d On, then

1079
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 6: at some point it's d On. You're gonna be one

1080
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 6: on one more often than not. Okay, we got to

1081
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 6: feel how that game goes. But we're gonna start giving

1082
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 6: you no help to TJ. Maybe we'll put a body

1083
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 6: presence there and not a chip, but a tight end

1084
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 6: or a back getting outside on the release. If ninety

1085
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 6: wants to line up on our right his left TJ.

1086
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 6: Watt and he wants to rush over Vandermark, we're gonna

1087
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 6: chip him every play. There's not a play where we

1088
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 6: will not chip TJ.

1089
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: Watt.

1090
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: That's that has to be the philosophy. The teams that

1091
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 6: have gone against Pittsburgh in passing situations and have had

1092
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 6: success are the ones that have said he will not

1093
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 6: ruin the game.

1094
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 9: Now. Is that demand? I believe it is.

1095
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 6: I don't think that Steelers defense is good enough to

1096
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 6: slow down this offense unless you give them the opportunities

1097
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 6: to dominate the game. Chicago gave them one because they

1098
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 6: didn't chip them and he gets home and it's a

1099
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 6: sack fumble touchdown. So it's a defense that has high

1100
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 6: end players that does play at a high level.

1101
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: This defense and the secondary as well. They've got you know,

1102
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: Darius Slay, Jalen Ramsey and then Kyle Duggar has been

1103
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: plugged in coming over from New England.

1104
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: That that's a great defense. In twenty fifteen.

1105
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like these guys are a little bit

1106
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: have some miles on their chassis. How are they playing

1107
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: in the secondary poorly?

1108
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 6: I would tell you as a unit, they're playing poorly.

1109
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 6: As a whole defensive group. You know, Chris mentioned the Zachs.

1110
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 6: I think the secondary. I'm just being honest. There are

1111
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 6: multiple times a game where I write down as a note,

1112
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 6: I don't know what this defense is doing. There's gashes

1113
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 6: in their secondary. There are vacated zones in their secondary.

1114
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 6: They play with improper leverage at times, They're nosey and physical.

1115
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 9: At times.

1116
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 6: Ramsey's very physical. Still you can run by them. Joey

1117
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 6: Porter Junior has games when he plays at a pretty

1118
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 6: high clip, and then he has games where I sit

1119
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 6: there and I go, you don't look like the same

1120
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 6: players of the week before. So there's gashes. The more

1121
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 6: that you force this defense to really communicate and pass

1122
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 6: things off in concept, you can rip them. Three level

1123
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: concepts can rip them. And so it's a secondary that

1124
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 6: just has not played at a high level. I would

1125
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 6: tell you, as a run defense has not played at

1126
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 6: a high level.

1127
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 9: I think this.

1128
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 6: The more you motion and run the football at the

1129
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 6: same time you can rip off runs against this defense.

1130
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 6: So there's a lot schematically you can take advantage of.

1131
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, taking that a step further, Dan, I did see

1132
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: a number here, and we can take it for what

1133
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: it's worth. I imagine there are a lot of different

1134
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: variables at play when I say this, but the Steelers

1135
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: have given up the third most yards after the catch

1136
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: this season. It's over fifteen hundred yards in eleven games.

1137
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: That's over one hundred and forty yards after the catch

1138
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: per game. And I was really a big proponent last

1139
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: week of going back to the quick release passing game

1140
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: that this Bill's offense put on display against Kansas City

1141
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: about a month ago. I thought that might have some

1142
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: traction against the Houston defense. Could it have some traction

1143
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: against this Pittsburgh defense. Get the ball in the hands

1144
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,479
Speaker 1: of the playmakers and let them run around and beat old,

1145
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: slow defenders.

1146
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 9: No doubt, I don't think it's a need, Chris.

1147
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 6: I don't think that's this is your only way to

1148
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 6: have success against this defense. But there's no question about it.

1149
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 6: That is something that you want to build into. And

1150
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 6: I think, like again, when I watched this defense, that

1151
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 6: there seems to be you know, four guys doing one thing,

1152
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 6: two guys doing another thing on their back end, and

1153
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 6: there's this constant it feels disconnected. So yeah, yards after

1154
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 6: the catch. But my point is this, it doesn't have

1155
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 6: to just be that out. Yes it can be, and

1156
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 6: I would do that. But I think that you can

1157
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 6: run just a lot of really good pass concepts that

1158
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 6: are built out of maybe emotion or stack or change

1159
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 6: the formation or a bunch or a play action and

1160
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 6: a switch release, and you're just getting busts and coverage.

1161
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 6: Like I'll give you a perfect example. They're playing last

1162
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 6: week against the Bears, and the Bears run a basic

1163
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 6: motion over to slot snap it seam route and there's nowhere,

1164
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 6: no one in anywhere remotely close to the seam and

1165
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 6: cover three, no one close to them. They run another

1166
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 6: empty set motion, switch release off the receiver, no one,

1167
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 6: it's man.

1168
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 9: No one covers the man guy. They run.

1169
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 6: It's third and five, the ball snapped at the thirty

1170
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 6: six yard line, the closest defender is ten yards deep.

1171
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 9: It's third and five. It's I don't I have no

1172
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 9: concept defensively of why you would do that.

1173
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 6: Maybe there's smarter people than me when but for me,

1174
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 6: as an offense, I'm like, sweet, thank you, here's my

1175
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 6: first down conversion, easy throw.

1176
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 9: So I don't want to minimize.

1177
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: Listen, this is Kim Hayward's very good. Obviously, TJ's very good.

1178
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 6: Patrick Queen's a very good player. It just feels like

1179
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 6: they're there's a lack of all eleven of that group

1180
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 6: playing together.

1181
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that the last week. Notwithstanding Aaron Rodgers

1182
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: is the quarterback of the Steelers. How is their offense

1183
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 3: playing when he's under center? And what are they good at?

1184
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: And what's this offense supposed to look like?

1185
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the best thing that they do in different

1186
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 6: of the quarterback is they put big humans on the

1187
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 6: field and run the ball at you.

1188
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 9: You will see this.

1189
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 6: Offense put six offensive linemen on the field plus a

1190
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 6: three hundred and eleven pound tight end. So they basically

1191
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,479
Speaker 6: have seven offensive linemen on the field and they're gonna

1192
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 6: run the football at in different ways. They'll run the

1193
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 6: football downhill at you. They're really big on getting the

1194
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 6: ball to the perimeter with their six offensive linemen to

1195
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 6: tight end grouping with Washington on their toss game. Washington

1196
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 6: is a very difficult person to just play defense against.

1197
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 6: And matchup because he's so big and they'll throw it

1198
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 6: to him and then do you have a guy big

1199
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 6: enough to tackle him? And he's three hundred eleven pounds,

1200
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 6: but he moves relatively good for that size, and so

1201
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 6: that's the best thing they do by far, Steve. You know,

1202
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 6: they'll get the ball to DK, they'll take a one

1203
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 6: on one shot to DK. There it's three step past

1204
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 6: game where they want Aaron in the gun. Get it

1205
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 6: out quick. You know, if you want to play zone,

1206
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 6: he's gonna find a soft spot on your zone. Now

1207
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 6: he doesn't want to hold the football. If you want

1208
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 6: to play man one on one, ball's going to DK.

1209
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 6: Fire Mooster a good player as well. I want to

1210
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 6: minimize him. But yeah, they this is a this is

1211
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 6: an offense right now that you know it's it's built

1212
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 6: to run the football with a bunch of big people

1213
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 6: and that that's that's gonna be the biggest challenge they are.

1214
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: Coach Tomlin's already ruled out both Derek Harmon on the

1215
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: defensive side with the stinger from last week, and he

1216
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: also ruled out left tackle Broderick Jones. Sorry, Broderick Jones

1217
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: had the stinger. Derek Harmon had the knee injury. Both

1218
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: already out for this game, So it looks like they're

1219
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: going to decide through the course of the week whether

1220
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: it's going to be the swing tackle, Calvin Anderson or

1221
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: the veteran Andrews Pete at left tackle.

1222
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 6: So Anderson, that's a big deal, Chris, I don't mean

1223
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 6: to cut you off him. So now Anderson is the

1224
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 6: sixth offensive lineman guy, He's the guy that comes into

1225
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 6: the game as the sixth offensive lineman.

1226
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 9: So you know, left tackle.

1227
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 6: If it's gonna be Anderson, that could throw that six

1228
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 6: offensive lineman grouping in flux.

1229
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 9: Can they use it as much?

1230
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 6: That's the first time that they've been dealt with that situation.

1231
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they may just use three tight ends and forget

1232
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: about the sixth offensive lineman if Anderson's the swing guy,

1233
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: do you I'm trying to get a gauge here, because

1234
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: on the road, the Bills are now two and three

1235
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: and they've struggled there, as you know, you saw one

1236
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: in person back in Week six in Atlanta, and through

1237
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: no coincidence, for all four four of their five fewest

1238
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: rush attempt games include all four of their losses, and

1239
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: some people might just say, well, of course, because they're

1240
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: probably down on the scoreboard and they have to throw

1241
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: the ball. But they've stayed in most of these games

1242
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: that they have lost. It hasn't precipitated a need to

1243
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: go all out pass. Why do you think when the

1244
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: offense has struggled early, they've seemingly drifted away from James

1245
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: Cook and the run game in terms of rush attempts.

1246
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's an anomaly right now. That

1247
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 6: is really tough to point the finger on. Like, I

1248
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 6: know this is in Buffalo, but I thought two of

1249
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 6: the most impressive things I saw this weekend was when

1250
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 6: Dallas went down twenty one to nothing and Philly, excuse me,

1251
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 6: Kansas City was down twenty to six. Neither of them

1252
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 6: chased points. Both of them stayed disciplined and ran the

1253
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 6: football and that was massive for their balance. And I

1254
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 6: don't know why Buffalo has done that. And to your point,

1255
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 6: this hadn't been runaway football games.

1256
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 9: You know, I would tell.

1257
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 6: You philosophically, you're trailing. The worst thing that you can do,

1258
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 6: and I'll go back to last week is get into

1259
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 6: obvious passing situations against high end rush units. So hey,

1260
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 6: let's let's try to let's not run our head into

1261
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 6: the wall. There's a great defense. Our game plan said

1262
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 6: to be aggressive on first downs, let's throw it.

1263
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 9: I just think you got to be very, very very careful.

1264
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 9: You know.

1265
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 6: I understand not wanting to stress protection, but I also

1266
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 6: believe that you can lose sight of your most important

1267
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 6: players touching the football on a consistent basis.

1268
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 9: And James Cook is a player that.

1269
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 6: Every single time he touches the football, good things can happen,

1270
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 6: and more often than not do and sometimes special things happen.

1271
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: Or I just go ahead, go ahead.

1272
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: Are they too quick too when when they're offense starts

1273
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 3: to sputter even the least bit. Are they too quick

1274
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: to put everything on Josh's plate and say, Josh, let's

1275
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: get us out of this hole.

1276
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: I mean it. He could say that because the guy

1277
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: can do it right. But yeah, they may be too

1278
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: quick to say, listen, let's just go easy here.

1279
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 6: This year the answer is yes. And that's weird because

1280
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 6: last year the answer was no. Now, they weren't in

1281
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 6: as many situations last year, but last year, you know,

1282
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 6: I'll give Marcus Spears credit. Marcus constantly has said to me,

1283
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 6: like my concern with Buffalo's offense is when it goes

1284
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 6: a volume pass game. Now, there are moments and games

1285
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 6: that it's needed in the best way, but I just

1286
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,479
Speaker 6: don't believe again that that's been the case more often

1287
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 6: than not this year. And it's too quick a trigger

1288
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 6: to say, bail us out, you know, go make a

1289
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 6: special play. And I just think James is such a

1290
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 6: difference making player that he needs his touches and seventeen

1291
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 6: carries on the road. Yeah, it's just not enough.

1292
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: Right right, That's yeah, That's why I brought it up

1293
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: because I looked at it and that's what the numbers say,

1294
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: and to me, that's got a change, and I'm expecting

1295
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: a much bigger balance to their attack this week, especially

1296
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: against a run defense that's pretty much average or has

1297
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 1: been through the course of the season. Dan appreciate the time.

1298
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: As always. We'll catch up with you next week. Have

1299
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: a happy Thanksgiving.

1300
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 9: Thanks guys too.

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Speaker 2: Dan appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: That's ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlowski joining us, And that's

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Speaker 1: why I wanted to ask him that because I just

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Speaker 1: it just seemed and I know fans expressed this and

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Speaker 1: some of the postgame shows, both on the Bills Radio

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Speaker 1: network and elsewhere. James got off to a good start

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Speaker 1: in that game. I mean he rips off the forty

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Speaker 1: five yard run to the end zone for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: You look at the stat line at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game, he averages five point three yards per carry. Granted,

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Speaker 1: the forty five yard carry inflates it, but at the

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Speaker 1: end of the night, he's only got seventeen carries on

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Speaker 1: a night where you're trying to keep a pass rush

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Speaker 1: at Bay right. And then I looked at all the

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Speaker 1: other losses on the road and they all make up

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Speaker 1: four of the lowest rush attempt games for the Bills

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Speaker 1: this season. I think if they get down or they

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Speaker 1: get off to a slow start, they cannot move away

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Speaker 1: from James Cook in the run game. Cannot They're the

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01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: number one rushing team in football. So I'm hoping they

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Speaker 1: return to that this week and can get off to

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Speaker 1: a better start on offense. We've got to take a

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Speaker 1: break here as we are up against the clock. When

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Speaker 1: we get back phone calls for you, our phone lines

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Speaker 1: are open at eight h three zero five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, five point fifty two, five point fifty What

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Speaker 1: kind of win will calm your nerves on Sunday against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers? Your calls next year on one Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: State with us. The Buffalo Bill is in partnership with

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, the National Federation of State High

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Speaker 1: School Associations, and the New York State Association of Certified

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Speaker 1: Football Officials. Wish to honor five football officials from the

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Speaker 1: Rochester Chapter as the Crew of the Month for October

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01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five for enhancing the experience for high school

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Speaker 1: football players in the region. The men, with one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty combined years of officiating experience include Leo Rhodes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Guyet, Ken Johnson, Ken Torcia, and Tim Moriarty. Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills are one of eighteen NFL teams participating in recognizing

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Speaker 1: high school football officials for their contributions to their communities. Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: Crew of the Month, Well done. Want to get back

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Speaker 1: to the phone calls at AIGHTO three oh five point

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Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the

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Speaker 1: number to get on board. What kind of win will

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01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: calm your nerves on Sunday against the Steelers? Eight O

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01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: three oh five to fifty Open lines for you? There

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight eight five fifty two five point fifty.

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Speaker 1: But let's go to Mike in Orchard Park next.

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Speaker 11: What's up Mike, Hey, guys, thanks partaking my off. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I thought Dan hit it off over the head man

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01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 11: like I thought he's had a lot of insight of

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 11: kind of where we are as a team. I need

1353
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 11: to see a different team. I'm just gonna be real

1354
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 11: with you, I need to see some part. Like it's

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 11: as far as offensively, I saw it against the Falcons

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 11: that their defense wasn't wasn't even covering Josh Sallads. Their

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01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 11: backers were playing so far back that they were daring

1358
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Speaker 11: Josh Hallen to take down their kneath and he just wasn't.

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Speaker 11: And I feel like we need I don't know, I

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Speaker 11: just Josh to me, is just not trusting Joe Brady's system,

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Speaker 11: Like he's I don't know if he's war with the system,

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 11: he's just not trusting it. Because there's times that there's

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Speaker 11: times Cook is wide open and Josh is just not

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 11: taking it. He's looking like I don't know if he's

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 11: just not trusting what he's seeing or what, but he's

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01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 11: not trusting it. And as far as defensively, man, Like,

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Speaker 11: I want to see some part like our defense line

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 11: are getting blown off the ball and backers are getting

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Speaker 11: beat up like they're all you know, poding. Offensive linemen

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Speaker 11: are just are just blowing our defensive line off the

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Speaker 11: line of scrimmage, and like are running. If we cannot

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Speaker 11: stop the run, this team is not making a fier

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Speaker 11: in the playoffs. So as far, I just need to

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Speaker 11: see different teams. I mean, you guys see it.

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Speaker 4: On the stone.

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Speaker 11: There's no lie.

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Speaker 4: The elite sees it.

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Speaker 11: If we cannot stop the run, like seasons is over, man,

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01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 11: it's total. Yeah, so I would like to see a

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Speaker 11: complete team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a mike. Unfortunately, on defense, it's a manpower

1382
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: problem because right now you're starting defensive tackles are a

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Speaker 1: thirty four year old and a thirty three year old

1384
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: who was on the practice squad at the start of

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Speaker 1: the season. That's you're starting two defensive tackles, and then

1386
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: the guys behind them, another guy's over thirty and another

1387
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: guy's a practice squad player. Those are your interior defensive

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01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: linemen right now due to injury, and then you got

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: your rookies Deon Walker and TJ. Sanders who are short

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01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: on experience and are learning as they go. So that

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: leads to leaky run defense because you've got players that

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: aren't the same players they once were. They're getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of snaps, and you're getting young players who aren't

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Speaker 1: what they can be yet. That's the center and the

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01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: core of your run defense right now. And then you

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Speaker 1: had Terrel Bernard playing on a bum ankle for the

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Speaker 1: last month. Now he's out of the lineup with an

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01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: elbow injury. Shack Thompson, who I think is still a

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Speaker 1: quality player, but I don't know what it says when

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Speaker 1: a ten year veteran linebacker has been your most consistent

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01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: run defender at the second level this season. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's a great luxury to have or an

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: unfortunate commentary on what else you have there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said it the other day, and it's I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen the end of

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Speaker 3: this season. Certainly this team is good enough to on

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Speaker 3: any given Sunday to beat anybody and do it going away.

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01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: They've got that kind of horse power. But I think

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Speaker 3: at the end of this season, no matter what happens,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna wonder what it would have looked like had

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Speaker 3: they had the guys they thought they were gonna have

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Speaker 3: it's and it's I get it. I mean, they use

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Speaker 3: it in Detroit last year. They had the same problems.

1414
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 3: San Francisco is a chronic problem. It's a it's a

1415
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Speaker 3: reality in the NFL. But that's that's what you look at,

1416
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: and it's you know, Mike, my old coach used to say,

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01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: depth is a great thing until you use it.

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01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: You got to use it.

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: Then it's then it stinks, right, and then you got

1420
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 3: you don't have it anymore. So, yeah, that's that's something

1421
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to deal with this season.

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Speaker 2: That's it ain't gonna it ain't going away.

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: They gotta they gotta figure out a way to make

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Speaker 3: chicken salad, and yeah, that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: As for as for Josh and not taking the underneath throws,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this already. This is not like the

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Speaker 1: first time this has surfaced as something that people have noticed.

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Speaker 1: I thought last year Josh did an excellent job of

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Speaker 1: playing within the structure of the offense last season, and

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Speaker 1: because he did, his interception total dropped to a career

1431
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Speaker 1: low of eight. They had eight turnovers and Josh, I believe,

1432
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Speaker 1: had all of them, and it was the lowest total

1433
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Speaker 1: in the league. I think we all knew that number

1434
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: was going to come back to the mean. But getting

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Speaker 1: to your number one point, which is Josh has not

1436
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: taken the underneath throws even when they're giving him to him,

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Speaker 1: I think we got a little bit of a peek

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Speaker 1: into Josh's thought process. Two weeks ago at his postgame

1439
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: press conference, they asked him about the touchdown pass to

1440
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 1: Tyrell Shavers for forty three yards on an offscript play

1441
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: where he ran around for about seven seconds and then

1442
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: heaved it down the field, And when he was asked

1443
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: to review that and give us his thoughts, he said, yeah,

1444
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: I dropped back. My first option was open. I should

1445
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: have thrown it to him. My second guy was open

1446
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: to I should have thrown it to him. But I

1447
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't do that. And I ran around and I threw

1448
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 1: and I made it work. And I think that's a

1449
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:19,520
Speaker 1: little bit of a peek into how Josh's own competitive

1450
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: nature has him play out of structure inadvertently. Like I

1451
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's dropping back saying I'm getting this all

1452
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: on one play, but I do think he drops back

1453
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: sometimes and says, well, maybe Shavers can slip behind over

1454
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: there if I just hold on to the ball long enough,

1455
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: and maybe I can make a really big play. And

1456
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: he wants to get it all in one shot, and

1457
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: because he has the physical ability to do so, he

1458
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: makes it happen sometimes.

1459
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Josh feels a little bulletproof back there.

1460
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 3: And it was crazy as it sounds on a night

1461
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 3: when he was in Houston. He's getting beat up, going

1462
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 3: down eight times. You think, dude, you can't do that

1463
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: this game. You gotta get rid of it.

1464
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: And he never adjusted last week. And I would say

1465
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: on top of that, when the Bills get off to

1466
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: slow starts offensively, he is more prone to slip into

1467
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: that decision making again because he's like, we're down on

1468
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: the scoreboard. I gotta make something happen here. Let me

1469
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 1: get it all in one play. Where somebody's gotta get

1470
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: in Josh's ear and say, hey man, we're three minutes

1471
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: into the second quarter here, we got a lot of

1472
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: football left. We're a high octane offense. Let's just stick

1473
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: to the plan, run the ball, take what they give us,

1474
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put points up yeah.

1475
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 3: The problem is they will. The problem is that this

1476
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 3: team is. Over the course of his career, this team

1477
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 3: has been in a lot of tight spots, right, and

1478
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 3: Josh is really good in tight spots he wants. Yeah,

1479
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: you go to the advanced analytics, and he's as good

1480
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: a clutch quarterback as there.

1481
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: Is in the league, bar none. He's better than everybody.

1482
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: And that's the stats telling you that in crunch time,

1483
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: in when you're trailing, when it's in season, he's just

1484
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: he's unbelievable. So all that stuff reinforces sugar high Josh.

1485
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 3: You know that we used to call him. We haven't

1486
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: seen that in a while, by the way, but that

1487
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: it reinforces his desire to make that happen more often

1488
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 3: than you need to make that happen. So maybe there's

1489
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 3: some of that in there. And maybe, like we talked

1490
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: with Dan Orlobski just a minute ago, maybe they are

1491
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: the coaching staff is too quick to say, you know what,

1492
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: they stuffed that last run. Let's not do Let's let

1493
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: Josh throw this one, you know, instead of let's stay

1494
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: with the run game, let's grind this out. We feel

1495
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 3: like we're better than they are. Let's prove it. Instead

1496
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: of saying that, they just say, listen, let Josh get

1497
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 3: us out of this tight spot and we'll run it

1498
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 3: next series.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's an interesting dichotomy that I think

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01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: he fights each and every week. And I think it

1501
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: comes from a good place because he wants that burden.

1502
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: He welcomes that burden because he believes he can come

1503
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: through for his guys. And that's great. But I think

1504
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: when this team gets off the slow starts offensively, he

1505
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: ratchets up the pressure on himself even more. And that's

1506
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: when he slips into some of this off script decision making,

1507
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: trying to get it all in one play, when if

1508
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: he just stays within the structure of the scheme, he

1509
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: might find that he's more highly efficient putting points on.

1510
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 3: Him This last game, notwithstanding against Atlanta, because they did

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Speaker 3: have a rough offensive outing in Houston, it was a

1512
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: rough offensive outing and they've had a couple this year.

1513
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 3: But let's not forget by and large, this offense doesn't

1514
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: have too much wrong with it. They run the ball

1515
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 3: extremely well, and of course they've got the reigning MVP.

1516
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: And I know we've had this ongoing conversation.

1517
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: We've listened to you.

1518
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 3: The Bills fans call us and say, you know you

1519
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: need a big time number one receiver, and I better

1520
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: players make you better. Yeah. Sure, But when their health

1521
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: they when Kincaid's on the field and Shakiir's on the

1522
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: field and Palmer's on the field, they're pretty good and

1523
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 3: they're hanging thirty five and forty points on people. It's

1524
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: been a problem keeping all those guys on the field

1525
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: this year. But when we're talking about Josh and all

1526
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 3: this stuff going on, still not too much wrong with

1527
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: this offense when they're on the field going. But when

1528
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 3: they struggle, that's something this team has trouble overcoming. Their

1529
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 3: defense has struggled to get after the passer, they've struggled

1530
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 3: to stop the runner. They've struggled to get turnovers this year,

1531
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: and that's a problem.

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01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense has not picked them up with takeaways

1533
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: in the same way that they did last year. And

1534
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't think we were expecting them to get them

1535
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: right at the rate that they did last year, but

1536
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: I think we did believe it would be more than

1537
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: they currently have. Right now, let's check over on the

1538
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: tweet sheet to see what you have to say there.

1539
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

1540
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. What kind

1541
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: of win will calm your nerves? Sunday against the Steelers.

1542
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: Dave says, no sacks, no turnovers, win by one. He's

1543
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: right about the turnovers because you know in every loss

1544
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: they have had multiple turnovers at least two. No turnovers

1545
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: would be nice from nowhere to anywhere. Just win and

1546
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: we tread water for a week. As long as there

1547
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: is no real separation the Bills show inconsistency. Where the

1548
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: Bills are eliminated from the playoffs, there will be no calming.

1549
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: So he says, Bills being inconsistent. Yeah, I get it.

1550
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 1: They've traded wins and losses each of the last four weeks,

1551
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: so that's got to change. They got to start stacking wins,

1552
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: and they got to do it now. From j Lo,

1553
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,879
Speaker 1: I want to see TJ. Watt neutralized. Let Joe Brady's

1554
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: scheme against the defense's best player. Unlike last Thursday, they

1555
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: got a mini buye. They had a long time to

1556
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: look at that and come up with something better. So

1557
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: I anticipated will be better this week against the Steelers.

1558
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:08,440
Speaker 1: Mike says, win the turnover battle. Don't have Alan scrambling

1559
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: around for his life. At least look like you have

1560
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: a game plan on offense ouch neutralize Watt gets some

1561
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:19,440
Speaker 1: licks in on Rogers. That's tough to do because Rogers.

1562
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,839
Speaker 1: We heard Mike, do you already talk about it? Yesterday?

1563
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: Dan Orlowski reiterated it today. Steve Aaron Rodgers likes to

1564
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: get the ball out faster than ever. If anything he resembles,

1565
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: he resembles Tua more than he resembles himself now at

1566
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: a younger age, because he does not want to get

1567
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: hit and.

1568
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 2: The risk takes back.

1569
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna he's not gonna want to go

1570
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 3: to the ground at all.

1571
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: I really think that the defensive game plans that have

1572
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: worked in recent years against Tua, when they shut off

1573
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: his first read, I think if the Bills can figure

1574
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: out a way to do that by knowing what's coming

1575
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: and shutting off the first read, it might be able

1576
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: to get home on him a few times. As we know,

1577
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: he is not the escape artist he used to be.

1578
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: He is not nearly as mobile as he used to be.

1579
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: So you turn off his first read and he's got

1580
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: to pat the ball, you could be really successful when

1581
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: he drops back to pass. But I do expect them

1582
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: to run the ball. They might run it forty times.

1583
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: If they have the ball longer than thirty minutes, they

1584
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: might run the ball forty times because they're gonna look

1585
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 1: at this run defense and say, we can run on

1586
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: these guys with our big bodies on the field and

1587
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: just mash right. And they'll be happy to win a

1588
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: thirteen to ten game by holding onto the ball for

1589
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes and running it forty times.

1590
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: That's right.

1591
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: They would do that in a heartbeat.

1592
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they'd sign up for that. And that's what

1593
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 3: they're built for. In some ways, they're built in a

1594
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 3: way that's that's a bad matchup for Buffalo.

1595
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:51,919
Speaker 2: And you heard Dan Rolofski.

1596
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 3: They'll go six offensive line and put a three hundred

1597
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: pounds tight end out there and they will just steamroll.

1598
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: And Darnell Washington and is a load.

1599
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: He's huge, I mean, and he's a good athlete. He's

1600
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: he's a really good player.

1601
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: He's not just a typical, you know, old school wide

1602
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 1: tight end. He's he can go out and catch a pass.

1603
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: He caught a pass in the flat last week. He

1604
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: destroyed a linebacker. He stiff armed a dB out of

1605
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: bounds and then almost jumped over another one for extray.

1606
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean that. I remember watching him when he was

1607
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: at Georgia. He was doing that to people. He looked

1608
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: like a man amongst boys in college. He still looks

1609
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: that way now in the pros. Big dude, Darnell Washington

1610
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: man and he was two sixty five coming out at

1611
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: six seven. Dan said, he's three eleven. He's listed at

1612
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: I think two eighty.

1613
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: Three eleve. I don't know.

1614
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: He looks three eleven. You think he's three eleven. He

1615
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: looks big, and I mean he's got a he's got

1616
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: a boiler on him.

1617
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: Now you forget too, you look at him, he's you

1618
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: forget he's sixty seven, Yeah, sixty seven. So if he

1619
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 3: looks thick at six seven, yes he is three.

1620
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Bills, you got to you gotta put some big bodies

1621
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: on the field with that guy. Mike says, sorry, we

1622
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: already read Mike's Gary says, win the turnover battle. With

1623
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: the Bills having zero no injuries, play with fire, urgency, focus,

1624
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: and concentration from the first to last snap, A vastly

1625
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: improved passing attack, discipline, football few penalties, adjustments made early

1626
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: and not predominantly after halftime. That's longer than a Christmas list.

1627
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is well thought out by Gary, but

1628
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: Gary knows what he saw. That's a lot to ask.

1629
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 2: Gary sounds like a football coach in a press conference.

1630
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 1: We are up against the clock, so we'll take a

1631
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: break here one segment ago. We'll get some final thoughts

1632
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: on the tweetsheet about this upcoming game. Sunday, Bill Steelers

1633
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: next on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

1634
01:25:50,520 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. What kind of wind do you need

1635
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,799
Speaker 1: to see on Sunday from the Bills to calm your nerves?

1636
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Lauren on the tweet, she says, few things to make

1637
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: me calm One improved offensive game planning protect Alan Allen

1638
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: needs to take checkdowns all day to open up the

1639
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: intermediate pass game. Feed Cook and Shakir targets fifteen plus

1640
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: for those two combined. Come out of this road game

1641
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: with a win and healthy. I'm in favor of that list.

1642
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: Papa says, Just get a win. How it looks won't matter,

1643
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: given the following week could be the complete opposite. Nothing

1644
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: will calm the Warriors this season. Unless they go on

1645
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: a six game tear and dominate on their way into

1646
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, guy's gonna be nervous for a while.

1647
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a rough holiday. Wheel or Fred, yeah,

1648
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 1: or for Papa.

1649
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: We're all on that on that train right there. I mean,

1650
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 2: you got it. You can't not watch them, right and

1651
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: uh there you sit. I mean he's gotta yeah, you

1652
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: gotta go to the Steelers. You got the Bengal Patriots.

1653
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1654
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: It's just Fred says, need a game like we played

1655
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. Need a solid outing by everyone, and

1656
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: Josh needs some time to throw please, And finally Susie says,

1657
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: no injuries, need to stop dropping like flies. Just a

1658
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: win would be good, balanced on both sides of the ball.

1659
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Maybe a special team's magic player two most important to

1660
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: keep track of the rock completed passes and some takeaways.

1661
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: So some good responses there in terms of what my

1662
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 1: calm your nerves in the form of a win. On Sunday,

1663
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 1: our crack staff in the control room, Steve came up

1664
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: with the very play I told you about. Darnell Washington

1665
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: the tight end for the Brown or for the Steelers

1666
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: playing against the Bengals, a couple of weeks ago, had

1667
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 1: this play stiff arms the linebacker, runs over a safety

1668
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: and then knocks a DV into Next.

1669
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 3: Week, the safety that he ran over really didn't run

1670
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 3: that guy. That safety wanted absolutely zero part of that tackle. Yeah,

1671
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: he turns up, he throws a linebacker like it's like

1672
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 3: he's a pillow, and the safety comes in and acts

1673
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 3: like he's gonna try and tackle him and absolutely kind

1674
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: of whiffs on him.

1675
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: I mean he did. He wanted no part of him. Yeah.

1676
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Now does he looked three hundred eleven to you?

1677
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Yes, he does. He does seven.

1678
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was gonna say.

1679
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 2: Like, he's, Oh, he's every bit at three you think so, bro,

1680
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: He's come on, that's big. That's a big deal.

1681
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: I guess. I just remember when when he was two

1682
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: sixty five and he didn't look terribly different from that.

1683
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 1: But now he's he's got grown man's strength.

1684
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: He's Yeah, he is a big human being.

1685
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: And when when you know, when he makes a play

1686
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: like that, you could see the bench like they're juiced

1687
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: watching a guy do this to the other team. That's

1688
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 1: three defenders on one play.

1689
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's impressive. The last guy, the corner. I

1690
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 3: mean he he's trying to punch right, to punch the

1691
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 3: ball out. He found himself in the first row of

1692
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 3: the seats. Yeah, he's kind of He was eating popcorn

1693
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 3: with a guy, you know, he was eating popcorn with

1694
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: a guy on Jack Lambert Jersey.

1695
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you're a Bills defender this week and

1696
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: that guy's coming at you, go low. Gotta go low, yeah,

1697
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: because that's a lot safer than the alternative, as we

1698
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: just witnessed there. Tomorrow, the Bills are back on the

1699
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: practice field, game plan install going and we will have

1700
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: all the details for you, including the practice updates. We

1701
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: will also have a guest here in studio. Steve hasn't

1702
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: been locked down yet, all right, we'll have it ready

1703
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: for tomorrow's show as we discuss this game, which is

1704
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: a huge one for both the Bills and the Steelers

1705
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: and their AFC playoff seating. More on that game tomorrow

1706
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: will see it won