WEBVTT - Check In: Do You Like Music?

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Hello Stevie, Hey, hang on a second, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get Kaylee. Hello, Kalila, Hi, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>How was Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as you guys know, I was planning to take

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<v Speaker 3>a long trip home.

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<v Speaker 1>You were going to go see your mom in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and your dad in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was going to go for like a long

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<v Speaker 3>stretch over the holidays on the train.

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<v Speaker 1>On the train, yeah, in a sleeper car, in a

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<v Speaker 1>sleeper car, yes, which you've never done, which I've never done.

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<v Speaker 3>And my boyfriend was going to come with me and

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<v Speaker 3>meet my family. And I ended up canceling it last

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<v Speaker 3>minute because of you know, COVID you ever heard of it?

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<v Speaker 3>But I think then I realized how much the past

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<v Speaker 3>couple months I had been holding on to like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>in November, I'm going to travel and that'll be like

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<v Speaker 3>something different. And then as soon as I was faced

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<v Speaker 3>with the prospect of just staying in my apartment and

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<v Speaker 3>continuing to do the same stuff, I got very depressed.

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<v Speaker 1>When's the last time you saw your mom?

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<v Speaker 3>It was now over a year ago. This is also

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<v Speaker 3>the first Thanksgiving of my entire life that I've not

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<v Speaker 3>been with my mom. So I was feeling sad about that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this crab dip that I make every year for

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<v Speaker 3>Thanksgiving that I used to make with my grandma when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a kid, and then when my grandma died,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just like the thing that I would make

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<v Speaker 3>and bring to Thanksgiving. It's not Thanksgiving without crab dip.

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<v Speaker 3>So my mom suggested we each make the crab dip

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<v Speaker 3>separately and then we could get on a zoom and

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<v Speaker 3>eat it together. I have nice crab. Do you care

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<v Speaker 3>if I start crying?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I did. I haven't seen you in so long,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just really good to see you. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>were good, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>And my mom also mailed me some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>for the crab dip to make sure that I had

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<v Speaker 3>all the ingredients I needed, which was very nice. And

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<v Speaker 3>we ate our crab dip at the same time. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready, Okay, wait till we get my chip.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, tip away, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dipped, me too, said like, what we were thankful for,

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<v Speaker 3>which is something we try to do every years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thankful for you. I'm thankful for you. Just made

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<v Speaker 3>me feel connected in a time that was feeling kind

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<v Speaker 3>of isolated.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm for that, Stevie. How how was how was

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<v Speaker 1>your Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. All you have to do

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<v Speaker 5>is like eat and be pleasant, Like what could be better?

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<v Speaker 5>But this year I did not go home, and a

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<v Speaker 5>number of my friends here in Brooklyn also weren't going home,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I was like, well, why don't I host

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<v Speaker 5>Thanksgiving this year? And probably because it's been so long

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<v Speaker 5>since I've been able to cook for people, which is

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<v Speaker 5>something that I love to do. I was like so

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<v Speaker 5>excited and had like everything ready and stage so it'd

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<v Speaker 5>be done exactly when everyone showed up, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>like I felt like a puppy waiting for like its

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<v Speaker 5>owners to come home from vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was just like waiting by the bell.

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<v Speaker 6>Huah.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you're here, Okay, Yeah, come on up,

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<v Speaker 5>so overeat go about it a Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>Every Thanksgiving we did it outside on my roof.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, it was a nice day.

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<v Speaker 5>It was such a nice day. It was so warm.

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<v Speaker 5>We were like really lucky with the weather. I need

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<v Speaker 5>a ton of food.

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<v Speaker 2>I pretended. I was like cooking for like twelve people.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, I don't know, Like there was so much planning

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<v Speaker 5>that went into doing that responsibly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we all got tested.

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<v Speaker 5>And we're quarantining, and like it was like group email

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<v Speaker 5>after group email after group email talking about like your

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<v Speaker 5>negative test and like when you got it and how

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<v Speaker 5>you're not going to see people. And it was like

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of work, honestly to make everybody feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was just really grateful that everybody was willing to sort

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<v Speaker 5>of like make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt even more special this year. I guess, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well I have this pie.

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<v Speaker 7>It's apple and onion and through year.

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<v Speaker 2>But also if we have snacks and we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to fill up, we don't have to.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I do want to go out, but I do

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<v Speaker 8>think we.

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<v Speaker 9>Should need that.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, Jonathan, what did How was your Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun? I mean it was just me and

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<v Speaker 1>Emily and Augie. I do it Paki.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oki was really excited about all the different foods. He was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very curious about what stuffing was. He had

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<v Speaker 1>never had stuffing. That was a lively conversation. I like

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<v Speaker 1>a staffine. Uh stuff, Well, yeah, it's stuff that you

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<v Speaker 1>stuff inside the turkey. You don't really do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 10>That's you're out of fast.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean you don't stuff a turkey anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just sort of like robbing this turkey of his dignity.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think that that the turkey killing the turkey,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't rob it of its But setting that aside,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel at least like, well, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave somebody a good meal, and we can respect.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Aggie what he was grateful for. Hm, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be four in a couple of days. So

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<v Speaker 1>half of like the things that he says is like

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of like sweet and profound, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>half is this complete nonsense like you was saying, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we asked him what he was grateful for, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like Mama and Papa and my family. But then

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<v Speaker 1>in the same breath as he's doing this list, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like kidding, King Kou.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a series of books called Sweet Pickles where there's

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<v Speaker 1>like all these different characters like worried Walris and fix

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<v Speaker 1>It Camel kidding Kangaroo's this irredeemable jerk. All he does

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<v Speaker 1>is mean pranks on people. And I try to explain

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<v Speaker 1>to Augie about how like the lesson to learn here

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<v Speaker 1>is that, like, if you do something mean and then

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<v Speaker 1>say it's a joke, it doesn't make it funny. But

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks kidding Kangaroo is great, and we spent some

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<v Speaker 1>of the night trying to get into look inside his heart. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot, Yes you have. You have to close your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and think about what you really thankful.

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<v Speaker 8>For, right, hope, for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And whole family.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding ingoo and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>In Kangaroo's funny. I love kidding Gangaro. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm giving? Thanks for what? And always not

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<v Speaker 1>just Thanksgiving Day but every day us Well, no to

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors and to you. Sure, yes, but fundamentally it's

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<v Speaker 1>the sponsor because they're the ones that allow us to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for our microphone batteries. So let's pay homage to them,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. I wanted to talk about music. Sure, let's

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation about music. Do you like music?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Controversial, Stevie, Do you like music?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess I don't actually have like very

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<v Speaker 5>strong feelings about music.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like we have ourselves a real point counterpoint situation here.

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<v Speaker 1>This conversation about music reminds me of a conversation about

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<v Speaker 1>music that I just was having just the other day

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<v Speaker 1>with my friend Gregor. You like music, I like music.

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<v Speaker 7>I like the way you ease your interview subject into

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<v Speaker 7>the interview with softball questions to begin with. I actually

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<v Speaker 7>I've been giving a lot of thought to music lately

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<v Speaker 7>because music was this really important thing in my life,

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<v Speaker 7>and it still is. But I think isn't isn't as

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<v Speaker 7>much in my kids' lives as my own. After school,

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<v Speaker 7>it would be these rumbles between sort of two teams

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<v Speaker 7>of boys fighting each other about the Stones versus the Who,

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<v Speaker 7>and you just get in there and beat the hell

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<v Speaker 7>up each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other and again, like nowadays, it seems as though young

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<v Speaker 1>people can like a vast array of things, whereas before,

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<v Speaker 1>like we wasted so much time pulling our hair out

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, the Beatles or the rolling Stones.

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<v Speaker 7>That's obviously why our generation is bald and younger people

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<v Speaker 7>have much more hair.

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<v Speaker 1>They really do.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, my kids are into like DM and not even

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<v Speaker 7>passionate about it. They're just I'm like, oh, what are

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<v Speaker 7>you listening to? And he's like, oh, just DM. Not

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<v Speaker 7>even like a song or a name or an artist.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just that's what they're listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but there's a character that was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that was upsetting.

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<v Speaker 7>Sounded like a tea kettle boiling. He got me all

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<v Speaker 7>off track. The point is, even to my own ears,

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<v Speaker 7>it sounds all tinny and funny when I'm like, there

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<v Speaker 7>used to be a man named Eric Clapton, and he

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<v Speaker 7>used to play cover songs and people called him a god,

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<v Speaker 7>and they're like, oh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>People used to write graffiti. I remember on the school

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<v Speaker 1>wall that said Eric Clapton is God, right, Like people

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<v Speaker 1>risk their lives to actually spray paint that. They'd go

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the roof of the gym and hang

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<v Speaker 1>down and write it several stories off the ground.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was everywhere, and people would scratch it into

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<v Speaker 7>notebooks and it was a whole tribal identification with Eric Clapton.

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<v Speaker 7>But in my band, this is the point I'm trying

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<v Speaker 7>to make to you. We played the song Cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, hang on a second, what about this band? Just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a band?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Why this is the first I'm hearing of this.

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<v Speaker 9>I was in a band for about fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the name of the band?

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<v Speaker 9>I've had different names over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>But what were some of the names.

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<v Speaker 9>I can't even remember these names.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can.

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<v Speaker 7>The first name of the band, which is probably the

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<v Speaker 7>most embarrassing name, was shadow Facts, named after the horse

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<v Speaker 7>in Lord of the Rings.

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<v Speaker 1>Shadow Facts. So it's like a do you guys like

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<v Speaker 1>do like songs in Elvish?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes? We did songs in Elvish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been uh, it's been nice chatting with you.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure that it gets us, but I always

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<v Speaker 7>enjoy our talks.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this character?

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<v Speaker 7>This is everyone I have ever talked to. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>can't say that you're what you're going to consider you

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<v Speaker 7>for this, but I enjoyed our talk really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always interesting talking to Gregor.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, but seriously, though, does that seem true

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<v Speaker 1>that your generation, that you guys don't feel as defined

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<v Speaker 1>by your choices in music like you can like all

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<v Speaker 1>the music?

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<v Speaker 3>I think when we were younger, though, I remember like

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<v Speaker 3>Backstreet Boys versus Sync being a big.

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<v Speaker 1>And which were you guys?

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<v Speaker 3>I said I was a Backstreet Boys, But then like

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years out, I was like, why did

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<v Speaker 3>I think that? Because in Sync's music is way.

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<v Speaker 2>Better KAYLEI, I'm the same way.

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<v Speaker 5>I think really, like, yes, I think that I had

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<v Speaker 5>a vague awareness that like maybe it was like cooler

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<v Speaker 5>to say you like the Backstreet Boys, but like I

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't even name the Backstreep Boys song and like in

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<v Speaker 5>sync is what I listened to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, during Quarantine, I've been spending a lot more time

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<v Speaker 1>listening to music with Aggie.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of stuff were you guys listening to?

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<v Speaker 1>Just a lot of music that I liked when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. I played him a clashes should I

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<v Speaker 1>stay or should I go? For the first time a

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<v Speaker 1>little while ago, and after every song I was asked

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? And like after stay shot, he

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<v Speaker 1>was just silent, and I was like, Oggie, like what

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? And he's just like looking off

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<v Speaker 1>into the distance, and then he says I think he

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<v Speaker 1>should stay, and I was like, oh yeah, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, Like he was like, it's it's easy, it's easier.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was just imagining how hard it is

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<v Speaker 1>for him to go anywhere, especially like now in the

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<v Speaker 1>winter in Minnesota, to put on his snowsuit and his boots.

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<v Speaker 1>To him, it was just like a referendum on whether

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<v Speaker 1>you should go outside in the cold or stay inside

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<v Speaker 1>and eat snacks, and he was like, yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he should stay.

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<v Speaker 3>I when I was a little kid, like younger than Augie,

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<v Speaker 3>like really like an infant to my dad used to

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<v Speaker 3>whenever I was crying, he would play can't touch this,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I would stop crying. Oh yeah, you would

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<v Speaker 3>like pick me up and dance around and oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really that's very sweet, look at my heart. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have the experience of making mixtapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I only ever made mixed CDs.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to make mixtapes like but recording off the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have to hold the tape recorder mike

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<v Speaker 1>up to the speaker of a radio, so my father,

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<v Speaker 1>like you would hear my father yelling in.

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<v Speaker 3>The background, I made a mix. I used to just

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<v Speaker 3>make a lot of mixes in high school in general,

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember I had this amazing idea where I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, it would be so cool to make a

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<v Speaker 3>mix where the first letter of each song spells like

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<v Speaker 3>will you go to prom with me? And you could

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<v Speaker 3>give it to someone to ask them to prom. So

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<v Speaker 3>I made it, like years before even my prom would

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<v Speaker 3>have happened. And then like I didn't ask anyone to

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<v Speaker 3>prom and I never used it for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember what the songs were that you used

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<v Speaker 1>for the letters?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I probably have it on my old computer. I

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<v Speaker 3>can look.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta like find an occasion to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>prom to use that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think any occasion in which I'd now go to

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<v Speaker 3>a prom would be creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>Grounds for legal action.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, so like I have Under the Bridge

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<v Speaker 3>by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. If you guys know

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<v Speaker 3>that song gold Lion the yeah, yeah, yeahs if you

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<v Speaker 3>guys remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Song, It's gonna tell me what a lot is?

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<v Speaker 3>Piatza New York Catcher is the p and prom.

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<v Speaker 9>Johnson will play Piazza. I'll catch your you straight? Are Uka?

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to want me cheap trick? That's the

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<v Speaker 3>I and with what's the m The emin prom is

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<v Speaker 3>Marching Bands of Manhattan by Death Cab for Cutie.

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<v Speaker 1>What foreign Marching bands?

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<v Speaker 6>Large?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you sing it? I can't, Stevie, can you?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't actually know that song, which, like this is

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<v Speaker 5>actually an experience I have often I never know the

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<v Speaker 5>songs that people are talking about, Like even growing up,

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<v Speaker 5>I have this like very distinct memory of being in

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<v Speaker 5>my friend's house and they put on that Maroon five

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<v Speaker 5>song This Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that song?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like they all knew all the words and they

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<v Speaker 5>were like, you know, singing along to it, and I

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<v Speaker 5>had never heard it before, and I had like no

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<v Speaker 5>idea what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I felt like shame about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I went home and like listened to that song

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<v Speaker 5>on repeat because I was like, it felt really important

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<v Speaker 5>that I learn it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you mind if I switch gears here for a moment?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys? Ever, I'm just wondering if this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that other people do, But do you ever think

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<v Speaker 1>about like what songs you would like to be played

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<v Speaker 1>at your funeral? Like it's very self indulgent feeling, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like when I'm in a very like self

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<v Speaker 1>indulgent kind of mood, which is often, I'm thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good song really make everyone cry and

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<v Speaker 1>think about me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if I have a do you

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<v Speaker 3>have like a go to answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What's your go to funeral song?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have like a little bit of a playlist

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, so I think, like, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>that song? That Groucho Mark song, Hello, I must be going,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shockingly, hello, I must be going. I'm here to

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<v Speaker 1>say I cannot stay.

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<v Speaker 9>I cannot stay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that would be kind of sweet people,

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<v Speaker 1>would you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jonathan, if I may be so bold as to produce.

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<v Speaker 1>Your funeral, please God willing.

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<v Speaker 5>What if at the end of the whole thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they were like, well, we just want to thank everybody

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<v Speaker 5>for coming and whatever, and then you could have a

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<v Speaker 5>son in an empty room come in and really.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be like literally, like the person gives the

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<v Speaker 3>eulogy and like right as they finished speaking, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, I'm glad. I'm glad that the idea of my

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<v Speaker 1>funeral is so amusing to you both. What would be

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<v Speaker 1>the most disrespectful, Like, let's say you were planning the

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<v Speaker 1>funeral for someone you hated.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the most disrespectful would be like that song

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<v Speaker 3>that used to play on the six Flags commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing ball Uh yeah, yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>What about the worst song to be playing at your

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<v Speaker 5>failed engagement?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you propose, but the person says.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and then all of a sudden, the mariachi band

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<v Speaker 1>shows up and like strikes up that song they pay

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<v Speaker 1>them money to play.

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<v Speaker 3>In that kids. I feel like it would just be

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<v Speaker 3>like a good like classic like she Loves You or something,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>She loves you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she's walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Away and you can't get the Mariachi Bland to stop

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<v Speaker 1>playing it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just following you. Chase after and they follow you.

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<v Speaker 5>How about I got a feeling that tonight's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>a good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Nights, going good night n nights? What about the worst

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<v Speaker 2>song to walk down the aisle?

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<v Speaker 1>Too? Like, instead of here comes the Bride, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do something a little, a little little less typical.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, again that six Flag song would be

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<v Speaker 3>pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>The horn and you actually you're honking a horn while

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<v Speaker 3>you walk down the aisle.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know, if were you guys enjoying all of

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<v Speaker 1>this music that I was spinning for you guys as

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<v Speaker 1>we were.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking, Yeah, I felt like I was at the club.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if people out there enjoyed those songs and

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<v Speaker 1>want to relive the memories, they could go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify playlist that we created.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yeah, we'll put a link in the show description.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Goldstein's Way Cool Playlist. It's called Goldstein's far

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<v Speaker 1>out Hits. No, it's called Goldstein's Party, party faves it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>To get the party going. Yeah, you know, speaking of music,

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to a man named Glenn. His mom, Madeline,

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<v Speaker 1>is ninety four years old, and a couple of months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>she was moving from the house that she lived in

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<v Speaker 1>for many years into a smaller apartment, and during the

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<v Speaker 1>move she came across this box full of seventy eights,

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<v Speaker 1>this long forgotten box of these records of her singing

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<v Speaker 1>when she was just twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is back in nineteen forty six. And Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>was telling me that when his mom was young, she

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<v Speaker 1>loved to sing, but since her family was so poor,

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<v Speaker 1>she had to give up the prospect of having a

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<v Speaker 1>singing career in order to support her family.

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<v Speaker 6>They were really, really poor. My grandparents were Russian immigrants.

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<v Speaker 6>My grandfather couldn't read or write. He sold bananas on

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<v Speaker 6>a push cart, that.

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<v Speaker 8>Was what he did.

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<v Speaker 6>Things are tough, you know, like a birthday gift sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>was like a piece of fruit. Yeah, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 6>how bad things were. And then my grandmother was raising

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<v Speaker 6>five kids and my mother. She loved to sing, and

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<v Speaker 6>that was wonderful. But there was a certain reality to life,

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<v Speaker 6>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>When you took these records out and you played them

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. Even that might have been a trick,

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<v Speaker 1>right to find a record player and one that played

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<v Speaker 1>at the seventies. It's exactly correct.

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<v Speaker 6>We finally found somebody who had a record player that

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<v Speaker 6>could play seventy eights. And when I heard him, oh

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<v Speaker 6>my goodness, it was wonderful, my mother said, She asked meatesaid,

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<v Speaker 6>the last time she had listened to the discs or

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<v Speaker 6>maybe sixty sixty five years ago, just absolutely incredible to

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<v Speaker 6>hear her sing at the age of twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>In listening to the songs for the first time. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a tinged with a little bit of sadness for

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<v Speaker 1>you to just hear her.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was because I knew how much she always

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<v Speaker 6>loved to sing, and I know that if things were different,

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<v Speaker 6>then maybe she could have pursued a career. And it

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<v Speaker 6>just gave me insight into a whole different aspect of

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<v Speaker 6>her life that she had kind of tucked away, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>And I just.

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<v Speaker 6>Want my mother to have a little happiness that let

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<v Speaker 6>me she's in the other room. Let me go get

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<v Speaker 6>her and so she can say hello to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Madeleine. Oh, yes, I can't hear you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little far away.

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<v Speaker 8>Jonathan, Hi, Oh there you are?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello?

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<v Speaker 8>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Good? Hello? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? I'm good. I was just talking with Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about the discovery of the seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you like that?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes? Yes, I just loved to sing and I didn't

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<v Speaker 8>know anything other than that I wanted to sing.

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<v Speaker 1>What did it feel like for you to have to

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<v Speaker 1>give that up?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I sort of expected not to get too much

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<v Speaker 8>of anything. You know, times were not too good, so

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<v Speaker 8>I sort of developed a maybe a wall in front

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<v Speaker 8>of me that don't be disappointed. I knew it couldn't be.

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<v Speaker 8>I was hoping it would be, and I just took

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<v Speaker 8>it as.

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<v Speaker 1>It came along over the years. I mean, were there

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<v Speaker 1>times when you'd see other singers getting famous where it

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<v Speaker 1>made you kind of think about yourself a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>or you feel.

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<v Speaker 8>I would say to myself, I'm as good as them.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you listen to yourself, do you think do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel a connection to that person that you used

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<v Speaker 1>to be or does it feel like just a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other person.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I can almost think back to those days and

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<v Speaker 8>feel when I'm singing your song and phrase, I just

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<v Speaker 8>remember doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, yes, yes, after all those years, it's a good feeling.

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<v Speaker 8>I just sit back there and just listen. I relax

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<v Speaker 8>on the chair on the couch, and I hear something

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<v Speaker 8>different every time I hear it, a different note. How

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<v Speaker 8>I sang the note?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh?

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<v Speaker 8>And I smile a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. Is there something about these listening

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<v Speaker 1>to these records that feels like a time machine.

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<v Speaker 8>You're right, you're right, absolutely a good time machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you mean that brings you back.

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<v Speaker 8>Good things, a good things. It's bringing good, good thoughts,

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<v Speaker 8>good ideas, good everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings you back the good memories.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right, that's right. We don't the other ones we

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<v Speaker 8>threw away many years ago, you see, the bad ones.

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<v Speaker 9>We're just looking for the good.

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<v Speaker 8>You have to think that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I don't know if you're comfortable doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>But is there any way that you would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to favor us with a few lines.

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<v Speaker 8>And you want me to sing it to you now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you had, if you had it in you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 4>No terror star from out the sky and the sky

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<v Speaker 4>you little tear a pedals from the roads and the rooms.

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<v Speaker 4>Sleep soon take your heart away from me. I almost

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<v Speaker 4>forgot the words. It's a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 9>Forgive me.

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<v Speaker 10>Tamera.

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<v Speaker 4>Start from.

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<v Speaker 2>God and look guy.

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<v Speaker 10>Pedal and weep.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a from.

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<v Speaker 10>And mine will surely pray.

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<v Speaker 8>My life is yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Sutay soon please deep.

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<v Speaker 10>A spark so no, you take theings from.

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<v Speaker 4>So that they can lie?

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<v Speaker 10>Who take metion, throw.

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<v Speaker 8>And leave?

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<v Speaker 3>Just stop side.

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<v Speaker 6>All you.

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<v Speaker 8>Do, this is what I bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't say your.

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<v Speaker 8>From?

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<v Speaker 10>No, you take toy from so lead they came?

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<v Speaker 8>What do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the straw.

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<v Speaker 8>And leave? Short worded.

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<v Speaker 10>Besk what I bay?

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<v Speaker 8>You don't thank your lo.

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<v Speaker 10>From.

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<v Speaker 1>You can listen to all of Madeline's music at madelinforman

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and it should be up on Spotify pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon as well. We'll put a link in the show

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<v Speaker 1>notes to that and to our playlist, and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back next week with a new check in with best

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<v Speaker 1>selling novelist Curtis Sittenfeld. Would you like music but sparty faith?

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<v Speaker 1>We get the party going both seeing sparty Faith, we

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<v Speaker 1>hit the party going the party phase. Get the party

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<v Speaker 1>going both. Seeing sparty days, we get the party going days.

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<v Speaker 1>He get the party going both. See party days. He

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<v Speaker 1>had the party going both. See party days. He hit

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<v Speaker 1>the party going both. See party days. He had the

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<v Speaker 1>party going. I spoke to a man in shadow Facts,

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<v Speaker 1>A little less typical. I spoke to a man named

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Clapton. Good one. Eric comes the bride, Here comes

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<v Speaker 1>the bride.

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<v Speaker 7>He sounds all tiny and funny bold.

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<v Speaker 1>See his party faith. She had the party going both.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing his party faith, he hit the party going.

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<v Speaker 9>Sounds like a tea kettle boiling.