1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, fourteen 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer A Nius Williams. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I am 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: A Nisus Williams. We have maybe our most accomplished panel. 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: I have three of my Hall of Fame brothers and 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: one soon to be. That's right, we're speaking to ahead 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: of time. He's a sack master. We're talking about him later, 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: and we're talking about secrets of excellence. First, we have 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: the NFL's all time leading Russia. He rushed on my 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: defense at least a hundred yards each game. That is 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: the great Efant Smith, sorry Arroganzon the Cardinal teammates. Secondly, 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: we have one of the greatest passers and leaders of 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: all time, Jim Kelly. Next we have the ultimate monster 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: of the midway linebacker Brian Erlacker. What a full head 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: of hair. And lastly, one of the greatest pass Russias 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: of the twenty one century, the Marcus ware. Welcome, gentlemen, 18 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: so glad to have all of you have accomplished so 19 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: much on the football field, But what is the one thing, 20 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: and don't sugarcoated it. Don't try to be modest. What's 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: the one thing that you yourself see as your legacy 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: in it? Well, you know, first of all, and Neil's 23 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: thank you for having us, Uh, to be honest with 24 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: you when you start thinking about the legacy. Now, I'm 25 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: turning fifty this year, so I look at the legacy 26 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: a little bit differently now than I did when I 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: was actually playing the game of ball. Um, it's actually 28 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: it lies within my family. Uh at the end of 29 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: the day. Uh, you know, the football is something that 30 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: I did. It's something that I absolutely loved and was 31 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: very very passionate about it. But when you peel back 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: the onion and you really get down to really life itself, uh, 33 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, football has come and gone. My family is 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: still here, so you know, and I'm just because I 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: have these records and so forth, people remember some of 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: the things that I've done. But every day I wake 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: up and I put my funeral ground, I walk in 38 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: my house, I see my kids, I see my wife, 39 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: I see all the things that are really really, really 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: truly important and uh, and so to me, that legacy 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: is right there. Because I lost my mom two years ago. 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Just lost my father in law in December day after 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: his ninety first birthday. And when you're putting people in 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the ground, man, you start to realize that life is 45 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: much broader than just that East Smith twenty two on 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: the back of a jersey. And so I look at 47 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the Legacy a little bit differently. Now, real quick you 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: saying that to to this players that will hear this podcast, 49 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: What were you thinking? You know Legacy, because you mentioned 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: it's different. Now, when were you thinking when you play? 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: I think when I was playing, Legacy was all about 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls and leaving the mark on the game 53 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: got you, which is a true statement. But you start 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: to realize that as you start to creep to that 55 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: age above thirty and you know that the end is near, 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: and you start thinking about what's next, um and and 57 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: what life would be like beyond the game. Uh, then 58 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: you really start to look at the little ones in 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: the eyes. I mean because I had two daughters, uh, 60 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: and and one of my sons, my youngest son, my 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: oldest son. Now, when I was playing, I was going 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: into thirty one day when I was probably thirty one 63 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: years old, and my kids was on the side of 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: the the guarney as it was getting to push me 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: back right before they took me out, and I can 66 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: see them, and it just changed. Everything changed the way 67 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I approached the game, changed the way that I actually 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: thought about playing her. It changed a lot of different 69 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: things now because I had people that really were counting 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: on me to be there for the rest of their 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: lives and so h you know, the game itself as 72 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: a beautiful game, and we played the game because we 73 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: love it number one, And I'm so thankful that fans 74 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: and so forth get a chance to enjoy the talent. 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about the fans because they really don't 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: enjoy the talent. They look at the performance and the performances. 77 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: That's it. They don't know nothing about the individuals that 78 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: are out there on the football field. I like that. 79 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: What about you, Jim, what's your legacy? Wow? Um, I 80 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: mean hit on a lot, uh From the standpoint of me, 81 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I remember even growing up in a little small town 82 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania and looking at the team that I lives 83 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: and players like a Terry Bradshaw Raser Steeler and thinking 84 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: of my legacy being able to take care of mom 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: and dad and have them look back on life and 86 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: think that, uh, you know what, these dreams do come 87 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: true with the work ethic. But as I get older, 88 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I never realized in a million years that the things 89 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: that I've been through in my life, um, I wouldn't 90 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: have to endure them, from standpoint of them telling me 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I would never play football again, to standpoint after you know, 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: going to one super Bowl thing you might even go back, 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: and then wind up going to four super Bowls in 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: a row, and thanks to him he ended those with 95 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: three and four with a loss, but uh but being 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: but going four years in a row. And then after 97 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I retired, having a son born on my birthday on 98 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, and the dreams I had, and then as 99 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: I fast forward to the things I've been going through 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: now having kids for three times, and and then traveling 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: to the country speaking and realizing how many people not 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: just uh, you know, adults, but kids coming up to 103 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: me and tell me how I've been an inspiration to 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: their their father, their mother, or even themselves, saying that, 105 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, they looked at life a little differently now 106 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: after hearing some of the things I went through that 107 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: they think all professional athletes have, you know, have a 108 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: good have to have everything they wanted to know, the money, 109 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: the fame, the fortune, you know, the bright lights. And 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: it's not always like that for everybody. But the thing is, 111 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: it's your attitude that you have being able to make 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: sure you make it difference for others. And I know 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: the life I'd be given and I would never wish 114 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: upon anybody. But I also look back and say, you 115 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: know what, I remember those days, how much fun I had, 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: the people I had as my teammates, the love that 117 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: I have on that team, to love that I still 118 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: have with the players that I have right now, but 119 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: right now knowing that I am making a difference out 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: there for so many other people that um, if they 121 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: had to do it over again, they would totally take 122 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: it a different way. And I came up with the saying, 123 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: make a difference today for someone who was fighting for 124 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: their tomorrow. And that's legacy I would love to leave. 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: You know, everybody will go through that, But you know 126 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: what I live eaching every day I enjoyed myself. The 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: good Lord decides to marrows my day, well, I'm going 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: out with a smile on my face and a pulled 129 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: drink on my other hand, and I'm going I'm smile, 130 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: so we'll leave with that. I'm enjoying each and every day. Now, well, 131 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you this gym for all of us, 132 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: just seeing your fight and seeing your resilience, it's it's 133 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: obviously the Lord at work, but it also takes a 134 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: man departner with him and not quit. I've had I've 135 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: had um great leadership from my father who raised ship's 136 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: boys were probably more of a leader and then anybody 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: would ever think. And that was my son who lived 138 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: to be eight and a half years old. He never 139 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: spoke a word, but he changed my life for the good. 140 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm like everybody. You know your dream about 141 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: teaching and coaching your little boy, you know, growing up 142 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and raising a son. But good Lord had different plans 143 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: from me, guys, to make a difference for others, and 144 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: through my Shun, even though he never spoke for she 145 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: has made a difference for so many people out there. 146 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: And number one his daddy, Thank you, Jim. You know, Brian, 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I remember seeing you in college. How much you wait, 148 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: But I remember returning punts just crazy, that's how bad 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: we worked, returning to kick off some punts. I mean, 150 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: everybody else to put back there. So that's how that's 151 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: how bad our team was. Even as you've heard Jim, 152 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: you've you've heard him, what what do you think is 153 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: your legacy? So mine is on the same lines as 154 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: you know as I I've been retired for six years now, 155 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: I think as you're playing, you kind of have your 156 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: your legacy and minded what you think you want to be, 157 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: what you want to leave behind as a football player. 158 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: And immediately after I retired, it was it all changed 159 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: right away because you know, football was great, like it 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: was so good to me. I love football. I enjoyed playing, 161 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: I love being My favorite thing on football is bear 162 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: on my teammates all day. Man. I love going to 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: work every day. I love being around those guys. I 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: love being in the locker room. I didn't like meetings, 165 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: but they were fun. I didn't like going because you're 166 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: in there for four hours a day. Man, it's old. 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: But hold up. Send it to the high schoolers. Yeah 168 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: who think? Okay? Let me Yeah, So we go to 169 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: the meetings or four hours a day on on a 170 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: short day, and they're not fun, but our coaches made 171 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: them fun. So I love going to work. I love 172 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: being the way were I love being a practice with 173 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: my teammates. Um, I think my legacy as a player 174 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: was to be good. I want to be a good thing, 175 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: that's all all. I want to be remembered this as 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: a good teammate. And I said that all of Fame speech, 177 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: But I don't remember that as a football player. I 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: want to be remembered as a father, as a role model, 179 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: as a guy who does other things outside of football. 180 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, my kids, and I said this in my 181 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: speech as well, my kids in my legacy. You know, 182 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: they were sitting down the front row there as I 183 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: was up there giving my speech. And you see it 184 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: more and more. The further are you you are removed 185 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: from football, the more you realize that. I feel like, um, 186 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: and it's been great since I've been out, it's been great, 187 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: you know, because when you're playing, you're so into you 188 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: and football and what you need to do to get 189 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: better and how you're gonna help your team win. You are, 190 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: You're good. You're still a father, don't get me wrong, 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: You're still father. But you can't put your hands on 192 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: like not like in a physical I'm just saying you can't. 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: I can't mold your kids. You can't mold your kids 194 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the way you want to because you're not there as 195 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: much as you want to be. So now that when 196 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: you retired, you're there all the time. It's been great, 197 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: you know. I've had so much fun with them, Um, 198 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: coaching my son and you're in football. Just being around 199 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: my daughters and being able to be a part of 200 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: everyday life, taking the school, you know, picking up whatever 201 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: I need to do, I can do it. It's just 202 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: nice to be a part of that. And the biggest 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: thing to me is that they are my legacy. In 204 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: my opinion of football was great, loved it fun, but 205 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be remembered as I 206 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: don't remembered as a father of my three children. What 207 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: the thing is, you know, for me, it's it's something 208 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: that didn't even have anything to do with football. The 209 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: same thing you're saying about your son, you're saying about 210 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: your family and kids. You're saying about your family and kids. 211 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: And what we're trying to really get people to understand 212 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: is that football is great. There was something that we 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: did and it was amazing, But to everyone in this world, 214 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: the main thing and what's the most important thing is family. 215 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Family is the most important thing that is, and that's 216 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: the legacy that all of us always wanted. It wasn't 217 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: the money, it's not the watches, it's not the crazy 218 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: stuff that you can go buy whatever you would, you 219 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: would you you know, make it from football, but it's 220 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: something that you strive for and uh, when you think 221 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: about like little intangible things of the impact that you make. 222 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: We were great because we knew how to fight. We 223 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: knew how to fight. Jim Kelly know how to fight. 224 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: You knew how to fight. Everybody had some type of 225 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: fighting them and we talked each one of those guys 226 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: on our team. And so now even when you guys played, 227 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: if it was guys that you played with, you see 228 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: them and you see what you talked them. But you 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: also taught them how to fight. And that's a legacy 230 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: that we as everyone here, we've left for everyone in 231 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: the NFL is like we have that mentality of fighting. 232 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: But also to the normal fans, the fans look at 233 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: us as role models because they're going through a lot 234 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: of the things in their lives and they also want 235 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: to fight, and they sort of branch themselves onto us. 236 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: But because that's what we do, right, But then we're 237 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: normal too, because family is the most important thing that 238 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: drives each one of us. So for me, legacy and 239 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: having that mentality of being able to fight, because when 240 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: I watched every one of you that came before me, 241 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: I've seen the fight in your eyes when y'all come 242 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: out of that tunnel every week. I've seen that fight 243 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: in the locker room, you guys leading, And I said, 244 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: I want to be that guy. I want to be 245 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: that guy that's doing it because he's impacted me. And 246 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm a young child right now, but I can become 247 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: just a smige it of that guy right there. I 248 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: can almost do the same thing that he's been doing. 249 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: And the question, based on what you accomplish on the field, 250 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: how has it helped you in what you're doing now, Well, 251 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: I think football teaches you so much. I'm just how 252 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: did there's so many ups and downs in football? You know, football, 253 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: game practice, your career, the injuries, whatever it is you 254 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: gotta go through to get to the game on Sunday. 255 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: I think life's the same way. Not everything is gonna 256 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: be perfect all the time. I think football teach you 257 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: to deal with that and get through it. Um lean 258 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: on people if you need to. You've got friends, family, 259 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: wherever you lean on, and also look inside yourself, you know, 260 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: to see how how mentally tough you are, how physically 261 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: tough you are to get through these situations. Um, post football, 262 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was a change because you 263 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: don't have those guys ever there to to talk to, 264 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: to lean on, your coaches to talk to, or the trainer, 265 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: whoever it is to lean on. Exience, Yeah, you gotta. 266 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: Then you turn into your wife, you turn into your kids, 267 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: your brother. It's a different people you lean on. Because 268 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't care how tough we think, we all need. 269 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: We all need to help. And I think that's what 270 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: I realized the most when I retired, is that I'm 271 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: gonna need some help making this transition from football, from 272 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: a football player to a regular person and doing things 273 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: that normal people do all the time. So that was 274 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: the hardest thing for me. Um, you know, I still 275 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: haven't done a whole lot since I retired. I'm still 276 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: enjoying being a father and I haven't got bored yet. 277 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: My big things when I got bored you, but it 278 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: finds something to do. I haven't got two I turned 279 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: for to you last year, So I still got some times. 280 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: I got some time to get bored still, So my 281 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: kids will be, you know, off in college, and in 282 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: five years I'll have all three of them out of 283 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: the house. So then I'm as something I'm gonna get bored. 284 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: So and here and Brian hit it right on. It's 285 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: the people you're around, um she attitude that you surround 286 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: yourself with. You talked about family. We all talked about 287 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: families through this. I had five brothers, and with my 288 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: five brothers and my wife and my two daughters, those 289 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: were amazing people in my life. Even though I talked 290 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more about what my life has been 291 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: since I retired, but I would not be here if 292 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the people I had in my life 293 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: and my brothers not one time today or have a 294 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, the frown on their face when they saw 295 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: what their brother was going through. Were my wife or 296 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: my daughter or Bruce and Thurmon and all those guys 297 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: that I played with always have been in there for me, 298 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: and we're there for each other all the time. And 299 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: I think by what we went through as a team 300 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: um Fighting. We were in the a f U Championship 301 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: game five out of six years we went through the 302 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: four Super Bowls in a row we didn't win. It 303 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: was almost preparing some of us for what we had 304 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: don the road in life and how are we going 305 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: to come together as a team after we get downe 306 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: playing the game of football. And I learned so much 307 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: through that. And I learned that, you know what, as 308 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: I traveled and I looked, I don't have it that bad. 309 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: There's so many people have what work shan I do? 310 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Just keep fighting and keep surrounding yourself with good quality 311 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: of people with great attitudes. And for all those kids 312 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: out there that are listening to this, they're gonna We're 313 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: all gonna go through tough times for life. When you're young, 314 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna go through times. But you're like, I can't 315 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: believe that's happening. Trust me, it's your attitude that you're having. 316 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: How are you going to make that situation better? Because 317 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: we all go through it, and we all went through 318 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: And the thing, who do you strong yourself with? Who's 319 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: going to change your attitude to make sure you make 320 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: that better for somebody else that's watching you. And that's 321 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: how I've learned throughout my trying times. And I even 322 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: know that there's still times that I have ahead of 323 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: me that I'm gonna go through. But as long as 324 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I continue to strong myself with the family I have 325 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: and those whacker doodle teammates your mind, I'm gonna be 326 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: all right. Right Well, I mean Brian said he touched 327 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: on something, uh, and I think the Marcus and Jim. 328 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: You know, when you're in the locker room, there are 329 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: so many guys that you have so many things in 330 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: common with, and when it comes down to that fight 331 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: or having to run that extra five one teams or 332 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and you're struggling and you got 333 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: your team, it'll come on. Do you can make it? 334 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Make it? And they're pushing you to that. But when 335 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: it comes to life, you look around and you find 336 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: yourself in a tough situation. You look around and say, 337 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: who's who's in his fox with me? And sometimes you 338 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: feel like you and there by yourself because you don't 339 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: have no one I can turn to my wife. My 340 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: wife probably doesn't know where it liked for me to 341 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: be in a foxhold like this. She could probably turn 342 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: to me and say, well, you don't know what it's 343 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: like to deliver a baby. I have no clue. But 344 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: it's you're right. It is the fight. It's the fight 345 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: to continue to survive. It's the fight to continue to persevere. 346 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: It's the fight to get on the other side of 347 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: whatever this is that's resisting us at this particular moment. 348 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: It's the understanding of the attitude of the fight that's 349 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: saying that this too shall pass at some point. I mean, 350 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: because you know, you're not in the every super Bowl, 351 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: and you're not having winning seasons every year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 352 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: there is an exception, but but then you also have 353 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: those times when there is dry seasons because it and uh, 354 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean you're going six and ten and you're going 355 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: four in the four in twelve and stuff like that. 356 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel good. But yet you have to 357 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: finish the season, and you have to prepare every week 358 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: as if you're going out to win. And so I 359 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: think it's that fight, uh, that we we look to 360 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: at times and we find ourselves in corners by ourselves 361 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: because we're not in that locker room any longer. And 362 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: and and so whether or not you're able to pick 363 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: up the phone and call one of your boys and 364 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: have a sit down conversations because he is going to 365 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: doing his thing, and you're doing your thing, and everybody 366 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: spread out now during their things. So the communication lines 367 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: are not as natural as they once were, and so 368 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: things have changed dramatically. But the beautiful thing about it 369 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: is we do have those fundamentals that have taught us 370 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: those things, how to survive, how to uh persevere, how 371 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: to stand on your own two feet and become your 372 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: own leader. I mean, amongst a bunch of alpha dogs, 373 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: obviously there's one that emerges up, or two that merges up, 374 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: or three or four that merges up in every locker room. 375 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that the others in our alpha 376 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: dogs neither. It's just the fact that leadership has to 377 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: yield to somebody at some point and allow this thing 378 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: to shape, take shape, so it can be so the 379 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: ship can be driven in the right direction. Say that again, 380 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: leadership sometimes has to be you have to yield. Everybody 381 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: can't be the chief. You have to have. You gotta 382 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: have some Indians. And so at the end of the day, 383 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: whether that quarterback is designated as that guy and he 384 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: earned the right to do that, or if it's that 385 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: wives or that linebacker on the defensive side the ball, 386 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: or if it's that running back or combination, because performance 387 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: also dictates who's leading without even speaking, because when it 388 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: comes down the net cut of time, some people turn like, hey, hey, 389 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: I need you to make it. So what you're saying 390 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: is performance has its own voice. Yes, performance definitely has 391 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: its own voice. But I think the thing that we 392 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: all turn to is that consistency in our lives. I 393 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: think that's where stability comes at. It's a key word 394 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: in the in the consistency in our lives. Those things 395 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: that stay consistent in one's life you can hold on 396 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: to like this. It's the things that up and down 397 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: like yo yo's that give you pause, things that says 398 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can really trust that because 399 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: it's inconsistent. And I think that's what we all have 400 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: built our careers upon, is being consistent for thirteen, fourteen, 401 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: how many years you play twelve, fifteen. You don't play 402 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: fifteen years without being consistent correct, And you don't play 403 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: fifteen years without having the level of humility. You don't 404 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: play fifteen years or fourteen years without having some type 405 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: of focus and something beyond yourself correct. And so that 406 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: sacrifice is is what we bring into the real world, 407 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: whether it's in business, whether it's in our home. Uh. 408 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: And those are the type of things some of the 409 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: things that we tried to I tried to instill with 410 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: them my kids. Boys and girls, you must understand you 411 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: have to be able to make your own decision and 412 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: be okay with it. Great leaders find themselves on the island, 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: sometimes by themselves. But for me, uh, if you had 414 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: about four or five words like teamwork, right, that's one 415 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: thing you always take from football, being a leader, being 416 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: able to take that step, being that guy, like he said, 417 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: being that chief to say no, right, and then being 418 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: able to change, being able to change because every year 419 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: when you go into work, if you had the right mentality, 420 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: he was like that guy that could take my job. Right. 421 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: And but that's what made us great because we went 422 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: into that the whole season of that guy can take 423 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: my job and he's not going to do that. And 424 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: then there was not a new guys that you're trying 425 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: to get a championship team against. And I'm gonna make 426 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I said right. Because when you're running, 427 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: the dream is easy. But when your legs start to 428 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: get a little weary and your dreams start to fade away, 429 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: then you drop off, and then you have to face reality. 430 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: Reality is not playing football anymore. Reality is family. And 431 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: then you get into the point to where your reality 432 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: is your family, and your family is now your team. 433 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: But how can you sort of respond to your team? 434 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, I can't talk to 435 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: my wife the same way or my girlfriend the same 436 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: way I talked to my friends. Right, they can't work out. 437 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: I can't work out with them and do the same 438 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: stuff I used to do. But so you have to 439 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: figure out how to change. Change. But that's what football 440 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: told us how to do, how to change and still 441 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: be that leader, still be that guy at Alpha Doll, 442 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: but now for your family. And that's what I see 443 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of guys struggle with. I see a lot 444 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: of guys struggle when they come out of the league. 445 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: They have everything that they need, but they don't know 446 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: how to use it. They don't know how to use 447 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: it in a different environment, and so they think that 448 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: the environment shouldn't change. No, you should be a chameleon. 449 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: You've been doing that for all these years. You should 450 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: be in a change with your environment. Adapt because you 451 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: got the two Here here's the word, and we do 452 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: it all the time. We call it in game adjustments, 453 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: we may post game adjustments, in game adjustments and pregame adjustments. Period. 454 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: It's adjusting to the situation, because every situation will have 455 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: a change in it. I mean there are times when 456 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: we're going into a football field and we're not prepared 457 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: for a certain kind of blitz and they may get 458 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: us on this time, but when we come to the 459 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: sideline and making adjustment, so that that's exactly what you're 460 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: talking about. The change. I said adjustment, but the word 461 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: really is changed. And because every day, and one thing 462 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: I learned since I retired is I don't have have 463 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson or Barry Switch or somebody setting the schedule 464 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: for me. No more. I don't have nobody sending that schedule. 465 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't have nobody to drive me to go, drive 466 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: me to get up and go, work up, get in 467 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: the weight room and train like that. No more. All 468 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: being set is completely routine, guys. And after the post 469 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: life or force football routine is much different than the 470 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: in football routine. What what has to flip the mentality? 471 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Because I call it, you call it consistent. My word 472 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: is a bit a thermostat and stood at thermometer. It's 473 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: it's and what I Sometimes when guys leave the game, 474 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: they're tired of the rigidy, so they won't want to 475 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: be free. Free. But but the more we remind ourselves 476 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: to think about in our lives what we actually did 477 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, I went through bell polsy so 478 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: so my face contorted. It's back and last mate. And 479 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: and when I talked to one guy who been through it, 480 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: he said, man, you're not depression. I said so no. 481 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: And then in my my I'm a pastor, so my 482 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: church member life, you still don't preach yes, And when 483 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: I still would do all my speaking engage and I 484 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: mean I was contorted. I saw you this summer exacting 485 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: thing on the football field. What do we learn? You play, 486 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: you you injured, you go if you can go, you 487 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: can go. You're not injured, right. But the whole point 488 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: is to remember that that perspective. It's this life is 489 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: not Roses. There's no sech thing. How much money you have, 490 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: you could avoid different things. It's the bitter get yourself 491 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: to yet it's kind of like, get yourself together and 492 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: think about, Man, you can do this. Stay tuned for 493 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: part two. This has been so good we have to 494 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: do too. This has been the NFL Legends podcast. To 495 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: provide feedback or request a topic for discussion, email us 496 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: at NFL Legends at nfl dot com.