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Speaker 2: Welcoup. We're back Tuesday, November twenty ninth. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Just Baseball Show. I'm Peter Apple. That's Arm Layton. And

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Speaker 2: guess what's also back?

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Speaker 1: Arm? We're playing general manager again.

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Speaker 2: I remember last offseason h MLB we got locked out

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Speaker 2: But it actually was a lot of fun. A lot

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Speaker 2: of our listeners liked it. Also, listeners of the Just

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Speaker 2: Baseball Show, hope you had a happy Thanksgiving? Arm, How

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Speaker 2: was your Thanksgiving? Before we talk about the Seattle marriage?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great, man. I uh, it was going

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Speaker 1: normal Thanksgiving, which is exactly what I wanted. And I

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Speaker 1: know you did a lot of the same. So how

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Speaker 1: is how is the West Coast side? Good? It was great,

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Speaker 2: Lost some football bets on Thanksgiving, nothing more Thanksgiving than that,

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Speaker 2: but didn't lose all of them, so you know, there's

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Speaker 2: still exhausted. So if our brain cells aren't fully intact

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Speaker 2: And I know our older listeners are listening to has

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Speaker 2: just listeners. We are going to be doing general manager

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we just mentioned a bray you real

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Speaker 1: talk more about the bra you fit, I think on Friday.

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Speaker 1: But I think you're just just quickly discussing that signing.

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Speaker 1: That's a guy that we would probably have sent. Well,

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Speaker 2: So the Seattle Mariners, like you said, we're sixteen games

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Speaker 1: I look at their lefty bats, bro like, their left

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Speaker 1: That's what I do with him. Would you just ship

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Speaker 2: The moneyball meme, it's like we need soda, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, because he's still just twenty three and

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Speaker 2: Gary Layton armed Depoto not up. This is our job

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Speaker 1: And I think in Florida or Ben Attendi, who's even

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Speaker 1: the higher echelon of that bat to ball guy, seems

429
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Speaker 1: like a perfect fit. I don't see Ben Attendee going

430
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: coast to coast. You never know. Money talks and the

431
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: way they've been interested in Adam Fraser, Adam Fraser seems

432
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Speaker 1: like the poor man's Ben Attendee, right like they had

433
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: Adam Fraser out there at bet attend He's way better. Uh,

434
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: that could be another really solid outfield bat for you.

435
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a one year deal with Conforido. It'll

436
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: probably be a multiple year deal cheaper for Benny. I

437
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: think a one year for Canforido. While you'll wait and

438
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: see what Kelnick's doing is perfect because if Kelnick figures

439
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: it out, okay, Canforida's gonna hit free agency next year anyways,

440
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: because that's what that's what him and his agent want.

441
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: And that way you're not blocking Clnick, but you have

442
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: an insurance policy in case this guy freaking stinks again. Yeah. No,

443
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying too.

444
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: It's just it almost feels like you're giving up on

445
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: him a little bit though, right, I just.

446
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: Don't think he's earned the opening day job. I think

447
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: that's fine. I think that's fair.

448
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: But it's almost like these guys that are so highly touted,

449
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: it's like you have to see what you got sooner

450
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 2: than later.

451
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: Like he's got he's got chances, Yeah he has. You're right,

452
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of chance points.

453
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Speaker 2: The chance is at twenty one, twenty two years old.

454
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: This is my common phrase. Can we give the man

455
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: a second?

456
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: We gave him some seconds. He's got some seconds, you know,

457
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: we gave him some seconds. Like I want to see

458
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: him in triple A, Okay, and then what do you do?

459
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: What if he has three hundred in triple A again,

460
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: then you see where he fits in? Right? How is

461
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: Winker looking? How is Canfordo looking? Is he healthy? Like

462
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: he's your he's your insurance plan to two guys that

463
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 1: need insurance policies in Winker and Canforido, who you know,

464
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: we haven't seen Conforido in a while. I think he's

465
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Speaker 1: gonna be fine, and I think he's going to be consistent,

466
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, we haven't seen him.

467
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: Winker coming off of two pretty crazy surgeries. Uh. I

468
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: think that might be the way to approach it. And

469
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: of course you still have that revolving DH corner outfield

470
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: type of role that those two guys could be in.

471
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Speaker 1: I think that's what you got to do, because if

472
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Speaker 1: you go into the season with Kellnig is your everyday

473
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Speaker 1: guy and you ignore and don't upgrade, you just left

474
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Speaker 1: yourself exposed to what if Keintic sucks? What if he

475
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: is continues to not put it together? I mean, how

476
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: are they going to answer that? Now it's early in

477
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: the season, nobody's available, Teams aren't looking to trade their

478
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: guys free agencies done. How are you upgrading? You're hoping

479
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: Cooper Humble steps in. I guess it could be nice.

480
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: No, but I think you're right on there, and I

481
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 2: like how we're kind of weaving free agent decisions kind

482
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: of into these holes, how we're going to fit them

483
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: instead of doing a piece by a piece, because I

484
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 2: think that makes a lot more sense. I think we

485
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: can sign Michael Confordo. I think that makes sense because

486
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: that's an upside play, right. It's like if Michael Confordo

487
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: was a little bit injured, all right, now you have Kelnick.

488
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: If Confordo's great but Winker sucks, you can maybe and

489
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: then slot because it's not like ti Oscar is an

490
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 2: all world defender. I mean you can maybe put Confordo

491
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Speaker 2: in right, put Kelnick and left, do a lot of

492
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: dhing with Tioscra, kind of move it around because it's

493
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: also not like Kelnick has proved to be an amazing

494
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 2: left fielder either.

495
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: No, And I think that's the way the team. These

496
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: teams kind of want to do the DH, you know,

497
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: a role unless you have a pure masher, right, like

498
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, like a prime Nelly Cruz, you don't. You

499
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: don't want to get more Stanton. You can rotate that

500
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: DH and use it as kind of a way to

501
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: keep guys, keep guys healthy. And I'm sure they're gonna

502
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: want to do that with Canfordo and Winker. Yeah, I

503
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: think you add Confordo and again you you have Humble

504
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: as a backup plan as well. Uh, you're gonna still

505
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: the season is so long and so many guys get

506
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: hurt and things happen and whatever that you're gonna be happy.

507
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: You have the depth that seems to be always the case.

508
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Kellennic will get his chances, but you

509
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: kind of want that to be. Okay, we got Collnic,

510
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna a shot instead of like please count it,

511
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: please please hit, because then at that point you're in trouble.

512
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: So Dylan Moore walks. I love Dylan Moore. I mean

513
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: that's my that's my shitty favorite player. All right, That's

514
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine byby eye. You know, I love

515
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: favorite shitty players. But he is thirty and he's LUG

516
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: three eighty five. But OBP of three to sixty eight.

517
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this is great, great, this is not some schmuck.

518
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you can't. I don't think

519
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: you can go into next year if your plan is

520
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: to catch the Astros with him at second base. I

521
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: had an idea. I wonder if it's the same idea

522
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: I have. Let's hear it, Ezekiel Tavar is coming up

523
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: for the Rockies. Okay, this wasn't my idea, but continue.

524
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: Zekil Tavar is coming up for the Rockies, which you love.

525
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: And you've convinced me because I went back and I want.

526
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he looks so good. But this is

527
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: not a Rockies episode. But the reason I bring him up,

528
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: Brendan Rodgers is hitting arbitration. Is that a player you

529
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: won't be that expensive? Remember this is a ninety two

530
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: WRC plus guy in Colorado. This is not a guy

531
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Speaker 2: who's going to, you know, make major headlines where we're

532
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: gonna have an episode talking about Brendan Rodgers possibly to

533
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: the Mariners. But could he use a change of scenery?

534
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: And I know that's kind of a weird thing to say,

535
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: because you're like Peter, change the scenery from Colorado. It's

536
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: pretty nice to hit there, and you're going to Seattle,

537
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: where it's it's not nice to hit way worse to

538
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: hit there. But remember Brendan Rodgers was a really really

539
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: good player and also defensively great, great in the infield.

540
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: Would it make sense to possibly make a move for

541
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Speaker 2: Brennan Rodgers because we could talk about them signing the

542
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: big time shortstops. We could talk about them signing Jean

543
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: Sigura bringing him back to Seattle. That's what I wanted,

544
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: and we could talk about that. But I'm thinking what

545
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: would it cost for a twenty six year old Brendan Rodgers,

546
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: Like would it cost you know, Taylor Dollard or is

547
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: that even too much for a guy like Brennan Rodgers,

548
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Like I do think it would be that expensive. I

549
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: think you might be buying a little bit low and

550
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: you could end up being a pretty solid player. But

551
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't solve the left handed bat. But if we

552
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: already signed Michael Confordo, maybe that shoulders it a little

553
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: bit it. I was looking at that thinking to myself,

554
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: I kind of like Brendan Rodgers on the Maritors.

555
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Huh. It's funny because he, I mean, he was so

556
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: good and and he's been a guy that I will

557
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: not really give up on until he's done playing baseball too.

558
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I like one of those guys. Uh. I wonder if

559
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: the Rockies are in the same camp. I do wonder

560
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: because I like him as a fit, I really do,

561
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's either an opportunity for them to

562
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: you know, cut their ties and say, okay, Tovars are

563
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: shortsop of the future. They've got other guys in the

564
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: middle infield that are going to be coming out very soon,

565
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: but they're probably still a couple years off the Rockies

566
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: a couple. Yeah, I'm looking at their at third lineup

567
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: right now, like what it's what it's expected to be.

568
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: And again, I know there's a Mariner's episode, but I

569
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: don't know who they would plug in if they did

570
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: trade Brendan Rodgers. That's the only issue unless they go

571
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: and sign somebody. I know they're like interested in spending

572
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: money on Nemo and whoever and whoever. So if they

573
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: want to go sign Geen Sgura themselves, I mean maybe

574
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: that happens. But I think they could put together a

575
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: pretty a pretty easy package that would get the Rockies interested,

576
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: because the Mariners do just really develop arms well, and

577
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: I know they've traded a lot of them, but they

578
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: could trade a couple of decent arms and I think

579
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: go get a Rogers and he's still twenty six. It's

580
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: just do you want another struggling like hope he figures

581
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: it out. Guy in the in the mix here.

582
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you're right. I just thought cheap by

583
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: low option.

584
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Speaker 1: I like the idea. I like you for another team.

585
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: If we were talking like Marlins, I'm all, I'm all

586
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: the hell in. If we're talking like some other teams,

587
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I just think with what they are dealing with of

588
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: like rolling the dice, I kind of want a sure thing.

589
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I do really like that idea that I did not

590
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: think you were going there at all. Right, it's kind

591
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: of outside the box thinking.

592
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: But let's talk about Jean Sigar because I think that

593
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: was on your mind too, because traveling back to Seattle,

594
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: you like that fit so cool.

595
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly where I was at because so Sigura, he'll

596
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: probably be what let's say it's a three year deal,

597
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: which I think is if you offer three years, I

598
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: think you can get them. The option was declined at

599
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: nineteen over one year, so you figure if he makes

600
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: anywhere from thirteen to fifteen a year over three years,

601
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: three years, forty five to fifty million, like exactly, I'll

602
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: do that in two seconds. I think this guy's going

603
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: to age. Well, he's still stealing bags. He plays good

604
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: defensive second if EU Aniosuarez goes down. He can play third,

605
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: he got some versatility there. I really like the bat.

606
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: He's consistent, he's a great clubhouse guy. It seems like

607
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: it's a perfect like Reunion, and that's a huge upgrade

608
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: up the middle in terms of offensive production. I would

609
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: love to see Gene back in Seattle. I'm sure that's

610
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: a popular target for them. It's hard to really, it's

611
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: really hard to say no to that, right I would

612
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: think we'd almost have to flock some other options because

613
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: that seems like such an obvious no brainer for them.

614
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: It's affordable, and it's an upgrade right right away, and again,

615
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: a back to ball guy that I think fits perfectly.

616
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm in.

617
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if it makes so much sense, we could

618
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: just come up with other options, or we could just

619
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: sign him because that makes oldest sense in the world.

620
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: Like I love the reunion aspect, I love the veteran presence.

621
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: It's the only just hole that I wanted to fill

622
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: in what you were saying, because you laid it out perfectly.

623
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Just like the Mariners are a young team, Gene Sigurd

624
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: just went to a World Series like now he's officially

625
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: been there. Like I would love Geen Cigar on the Mariners, like,

626
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: you're not relying on Jean Sigar to hit third. You're

627
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: relying on Jean Sigar to maybe hit six seventh in

628
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: the lineup, and as a sixth seventh guy, love that

629
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: fit to your point, He's still playing fine defense. He's

630
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: not this thirty six year old that you're just kind

631
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: of tossing like a Michael Brantley maybe that you hope

632
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: he hits, but you're not really relying on defense. Like, no,

633
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Jean Sigar can still play a good second base, And

634
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm Mariners fans are probably like, WHOA, what about we're

635
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: gonna get credit Dansby or Trey And it's like, I

636
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: don't think you will. Because the Mariners signed JP Crawford

637
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: to be their shortstop Jerry Depote. Whether Maris fans like

638
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: it or not, I understand if you don't, I wouldn't either.

639
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Speaker 2: They signed him to be the shortstop next year. That's

640
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: what the point was. They still believe in him. Remember,

641
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: if we're talking about Brendan Rodgers kind of being a

642
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: top prospect and maybe finding something, it's not like JP

643
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Crawford wasn't I think J B Crawford was even more

644
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: highly touted.

645
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: And Jacob's like a year older, a year older.

646
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna roll with him and he he's

647
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: owed ten twenty thirty forty one million dollars over the

648
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: next four years, So they have no choice, Like they

649
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: have to hope that it just continues to trend in

650
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: the right direction, which I wouldn't even say continues.

651
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: He started hot and really fell off. Uh, they have

652
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: to hope that twenty eight year old now going into

653
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: this next year Brett JP Crawford kind of figures it

654
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: out and can can be a low seven hundreds ops

655
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: guy or whatever like that. I think they kind of

656
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: lock themselves in on that. But I don't see them,

657
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: like you said, I don't see them going three hundred

658
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: million for a middle infielder. I think it makes sense

659
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: to go shorter term, GoJ and Sigura if there's another

660
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: option there, though there's not that many of their second

661
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: basement talk about shortstops moving there. That's the only second basement.

662
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: Second basement. I feel like that you can really go

663
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: out and get and instantly upgrades your offense. Like looking

664
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: at the rest of it, you know they're not really

665
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna spend. I don't think they're gonna spend massively. They

666
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: don't need a first baseman DH type, as we talked about,

667
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: ty frantis their guy. I've got one other outfield bat

668
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: that I don't think he's technically been posted yet, but

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00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: Masatake Yoshida could be a really good option because we

670
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: talked about him a little bit ago a couple episodes ago,

671
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Speaker 1: and I talked about how I really like how compact

672
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: this swing is, how short he is to the ball,

673
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's going to translate to a plus

674
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: hit tool at the big league level on state side.

675
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: If he's that guy right, he's bat to ball, he's

676
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: got sneaky power. They've never been afraid of going for

677
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: those international free agents in the past. Worked out pretty

678
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: well with each hero, and they've done it other time since.

679
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: I think Yoshida could be a good upside play as well.

680
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: If they want a multi year deal instead of Confordo,

681
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Yoshida could be an awesome option for them.

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00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Another option that I want to go over, and I

683
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: talked about this in my article which is still live

684
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: on Just baseball dot com. Twenty five predictions that will

685
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: definitely come true. Will they all come true? And we'll see.

686
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: All right?

687
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: We signed Jean Cigar. We sent out a couple offer letters.

688
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Speaker 2: We signed Jean Cigar to a three or forty five

689
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Speaker 2: million dollar deal. Welcome to the Seattle Mariners. Welcome back

690
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: Jean Cigar. We gave Michael Conforto a one year deal

691
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: and we gave the Japanese outfielder a three year deal.

692
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: Both declined they didn't want us.

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Speaker 1: They don't want us.

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00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Michael Conforta wants two years, We're not willing to do that,

695
00:33:53,240 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: and Yashida wants four years. What about packaging in Hancock

696
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: and pieces for Dalton varshow I love that fit for

697
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: the Mariners. A bunch of different You can play a

698
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: bunch of different positions. And the reason why we're focusing

699
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: on the offense is because this team finished fourteenth in

700
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: OPS in baseball and twenty seventh and average sixteenth and

701
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: on base Their bullpen was elite, and they're starting pitching,

702
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: especially when they added Luis Castillo, hard to get much better.

703
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: So we're not going to be adding much and they

704
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: still have a plethora of arms down in their system.

705
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: We talked about Taylor Dollard, We talked about Emerson Hancock,

706
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: and they still have more guys on the way is

707
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Emerson Hancock and maybe a piece or two for Dalton Varshow.

708
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Let's say we can't sign Conforto, Conforida wants too much,

709
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: Ishida wants too much? Is that a better option here?

710
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: Because I would prefer var Show to any of those guys. Yeah,

711
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: I mean I would too.

712
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Here's the weird thing is that that the Mariners and

713
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks just swapped play like just just made a

714
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: trade for a catcher, outfielder, athlete. Weirdo that they have

715
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: a month speed and Cooper Hummel. Obviously var Show is

716
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: way better, but I just imagine if they just made

717
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: that that humble deal for their catcher outfielder. I don't know,

718
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: if I don't know if the d BACSI trade var Show.

719
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: We're playing on our feet here. We just offered Confordo

720
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: and your sheeted deals. They said no, and we already

721
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: have them on the d Backs. D Backs are turning

722
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: this ship down, turning that should they.

723
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Speaker 1: Turning down Emerson and Hancock and pieces for a Varshow

724
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Hancock really struggled this year. Hmm. And and I think

725
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: they really like Varshaw. I think the odd man out

726
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: there is if anyone is McCarthy, bar shows a stud

727
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: as you know, Oh my god, I love him. That's

728
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: why I want them on the Marion. I love the idea.

729
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: It was a great try. Diamondback said, no, interesting. So

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Speaker 1: are we giving Conforida the two year deal? Then would

731
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: you go I think Canflorida once one? So would you

732
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: go high aav on Conforido or would you roll the

733
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: dice on like a five year deal for Yoshida? Five

734
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: year deal? Let me read you Massa Taka Yoshida's oh

735
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: five years and say I got four? Is that what

736
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: say I got? I thought he got four? I mean

737
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. Massa Taka Yoshida last year three thirty five, four,

738
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: forty seven, five sixty one slash line, eighty walks for

739
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: eighty walks, forty one strikeouts, twenty one homers. Mhmm, hold

740
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: is he twenty five eight, twenty nine, twenty nine? Five

741
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: years is tough? He just had his prime.

742
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: This was his best season He's ever gonna have harm

743
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: it was. It actually was his best year. He might

744
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: have another one. He might comes over to America and

745
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: immediately I mean five years is a lot. It's a

746
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: lot of money. It's gonna be what a hundred million dollars?

747
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: How much you gonna pay him?

748
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: So Zuki got five years eighty five? Okay, so you're

749
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: not gonna get one hundred That was stupid to me.

750
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: You're probably gonna give him sixty five maybe eleven a year,

751
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: fifty five?

752
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, five years. Let's say five years, sixty.

753
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: Twelve a year. I'm going to counter with four for

754
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: forty eight. He's gonna tell you to kick rocks? How

755
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: is he gonna tell me to kick rocks? He's twenty nine, dude,

756
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: twenty nyed? What do you what do you expect?

757
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: I actually have no idea. Like, So, I was reading

758
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: a piece in the Athletic. I just pulled it up.

759
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: This by Will Salmon. Masataka Yashida evokes superstar comparisons, but

760
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: reservations remain. Yeah, okay, I'm going back to Conforido Yashida.

761
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: I think I think Innforida is because it was too much.

762
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: He got upset. Who do you think you are? Who

763
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: do you think you are? Masataka? Fair? He was getting

764
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: bid up, which I think is going to happen. That's

765
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: the thing is like Yoshida's gonna get bid up. You

766
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: have Confordo, who is going to have a plethora of

767
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: one year offers. But how about the team that is

768
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: right by where he grew up for that one year,

769
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: get back to who you were, prove yourself in an

770
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: area where you're comfortable. I think you go, we give

771
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Yoshida the offer, he turns us down because he gets

772
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: out bid, or we get out bid by the Yankees,

773
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: Yankees coming at four hundred million and don't sign Judge.

774
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: So that's that's it. It's over. I think the one

775
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: year to Canforido because again, if I'm not swearing off Kelnick,

776
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: but I'm also not just giving him the job. I'm

777
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: not giving him a job.

778
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: If you sign Yashida five year deal, no, No, he's

779
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: like here, he's a little bit more a fielder's Yeah.

780
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: So I think that's perfect because he got Kelnick there,

781
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: he's gonna hit three twenty in Triple A. Again, you're

782
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: gonna I think we signed Conforido. We give him one year,

783
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars one year. Well, I might change your

784
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: mind real quick. I'm reading this article. Adam Jones, who

785
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: you know plays out there in Japan. He called Yoshida

786
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: the Japanese Juan Soto. I mean, there's the bats of

787
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: all jeez. But no, no, no, we're going to CANFORDO. I

788
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: just wanted to throw that out there, except one, Soto

789
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: is younger than Adlie Rutchman and Yoshida is older than Washed.

790
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: He's absolutely whole. So we go one year at CANFORDO,

791
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: bring him home. We go three years to.

792
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: Segurty five mil to Segura eating one year eighteen million

793
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: for Confordo's fair. I think even even last last fifteen,

794
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: we'll say sixteen to five. Yeah, got it right down

795
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: the middle. So we just signed. So right now, the

796
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: starting lineup is Hula Rodriguez in center, Ty France at first,

797
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: Suarez at third, Raley at catcher, tioscar and Wright Winker

798
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: at DH, Jean Sigurrett second base, JP Crawford at shortstop,

799
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Speaker 2: Michael Confordo.

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Speaker 1: In left field. That's a fucking good. It's a much

801
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: better team man, pretty good tea. That's like the good

802
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: with the weakness. JB. Crawford literally JP Crawford, Yes, yes,

803
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: And I like the bench. I love Dylan Moore is

804
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: like a perfect bench player, plays all over twenty one

805
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: bases back to back years, Torowi, Toro Murphy, do you

806
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: think Tremelo is a fine left handed bat off the

807
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: bench as well? We got to go to the rotation now,

808
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: which is pretty solid. Like you mean, there's four guys

809
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: locked in, which is Castillo, Gilbert Ray Kirby. Yep, Brash

810
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: is learning a cutter and if Matt Brash has a

811
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: good So the thing with Matt Brash you talked about

812
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: the starter reliever discrepancy I show I remember when I

813
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: showed you guys the Matt Brash slider like and a

814
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: half ago, and it was it was like nauseatingly gross,

815
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is going to become a

816
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: pitching ninja favorite and it literally did. But when a

817
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: pitch moves that much, it's hard to locate for a strike.

818
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: So he needed another out, like another secondary pitch that

819
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: he could trust that he could you know, land for

820
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: a strike that isn't just the fastball. If he can

821
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: find this cutter, this could really open up a lot

822
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: for him. And I really want to see him get

823
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: a shot as a starter because worst case scenario, Okay,

824
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: moving back to the bullpen, he's fine. But that being said,

825
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: are you okay with Marco Gonzalez as your sixth starter.

826
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: I think I am, like, if it doesn't work for

827
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: Matt Brash with the bullpen, that and Chris Flexen's still there,

828
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: are we training Chris Flexen? Are we ridding with Chris Flexen?

829
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: I think we just keep Chris Flexen, Like you lost

830
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: Swanson in the pen and Flexen came in and was

831
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: kind of decent in I.

832
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: Don't I don't get the I don't get the true

833
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: like the trade talks with Flexing again, like it depends.

834
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not shopping him though, because I understand like you

835
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: could be a rotation piece for somebody else, but your

836
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: pitching will go so quickly, like a couple of guys

837
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: go down and then all of a sudden you're starting

838
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: Justin Nicolino or something like that, right where all of

839
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, yeah, or you're starting Justice Sheffield, Like it

840
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: goes quick, all of a sudden. You can go from

841
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: from deep to thin quite quickly. Yes, I like having

842
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: those insurance policies. I think that's perfectly fine. Right, Like

843
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: you tried Brash as a starter, start Flexing in the bullpen?

844
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Is Marco Gonzalez in the bullpen, like he can't be

845
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: a reliever. That's the only problem, right, And they don't

846
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: have lefty relievers. That's the biggest issue. Justice sheffields they're

847
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: only left your reliever. Yeah, it's a good point.

848
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: I think at this point with them, you keep Marco

849
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: Gonzalez ays the five, like he had a four to

850
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: one three ERA last year. Is he he gives you

851
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: a chance to win every day, and that's what you

852
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: kind of need with a five, Like you don't expect

853
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: your five to be elite, especially when you're four.

854
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: Is George Kirby who at times looks like an ace,

855
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: look like an ace in the playoff?

856
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: Robbie Ray who has a three starter like strikeouts, Yeah,

857
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: like he was like at least on a strike up

858
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: based in three seven one era. Like if you could

859
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: just give you a three seven RA next year with

860
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 2: two hundred plus strikeouts, I mean that's a three. That's

861
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: a good three. And then you have Dilbert who at

862
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: times looks like an ace, and you have Castillo who

863
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: is a legit ace. So I think this rotation is

864
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: more than fine. I think you keep Marco Gonzalz in

865
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: the five, and you don't need to do anything, and

866
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: then you have flex and if you know anything, if anything, So.

867
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: The only way I trade Flexen is if I get

868
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: a LEFTI reliever.

869
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: I really exactly, no, literally exactly, because I don't want

870
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: to trade flex and I don't think there's any reason

871
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 2: to unless you can unless someone overpays for him, unless

872
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: you're getting down to the wire here and you have

873
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: a desperate team that needs starting pitching so badly.

874
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: Maybe in spring training a.

875
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: Guy goes down, it's like we need Chris Flexen and

876
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: they overpay, which happens, which happens all the time.

877
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: That happened with the Marlins again, like they panicked, Fura

878
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: went down and they ended up overpaying for Cole Sulcer

879
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: and Tanner Scott and.

880
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: They gave Backley. Yeah, I gave up a lot so

881
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: in the Mariner's concussion on that. But I wouldn't I

882
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: wouldn't say, all right, send an email out to all

883
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: the gms, like as as armed Poto and Jerry Apple.

884
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: We're not going to be sending out emails to gms. Okay,

885
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: anyone want to take this guy?

886
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, And we kind of talked about how like

887
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: that with Tay Oscar it felt like he was being

888
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: shopped for so long that it almost felt like he

889
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: was just just so readily available for so long that

890
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: it almost impacted his value a little bit. There could

891
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: be a trade partner similar to that tay Oscar deal

892
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: where it's like two teams that just match up really well.

893
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Swanson instead of a big, better prospect, was exactly what

894
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: the Jays wanted, right. They wanted somebody that can plug

895
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: right into their bullpen. So I would say, try, yeah,

896
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: try to trade Flexen for a lefty reliever. If that's

897
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: not there, then kind of stand pat. But do you

898
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: need to sign a leftier reliever? Like do they do

899
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: they go get one because they legitimately don't have one.

900
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it matters if all your rights

901
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: are darn disgusting.

902
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: So we have some money to play with, It's not

903
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: like this we're dealing with a poor Mariner. It's not

904
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: like this is the episode for the Pittsburgh Pirates. With

905
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: all due respect to the Pittsburgh Pirates, this isn't the

906
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates.

907
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Like, we have some money.

908
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: All we did was give Jean Sigara a three or

909
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: forty five million dollars deal and Michael Conforto a one

910
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: year sixteen point five, Like they have money to play with,

911
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: And what's wrong with signing Taylor Rodgers, what's wrong with

912
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: signing Andrew Chaffin, What's wrong with signing Matt Moore? Like

913
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: there are some good left handed relievers out there that

914
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: won't be that expensive. Like I would love to add

915
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: Andrew Chafin, I would love to add Matt Moore. I mean,

916
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: do I want to add Taylor Rodgers after that season?

917
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get it for cheap and you can

918
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: fix something with them.

919
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: Wait, the way the Mariners, the way the Mariners have

920
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: unlocked their relievers exactly, like the way the Astros have.

921
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Like certain teams just have that have that recipe. Maybe

922
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: Dale Rodgers is the guy. Then unlock him again, unlocked Taylor,

923
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: get him back to where he needs me. Because he

924
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: still showed flat like it was it was a rough year,

925
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: and he still showed flashes of dominance right Like he

926
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: still had those stretches where he was really good. And

927
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I think he finished the year with a few solid outings.

928
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: So I would say that's where you spend a little

929
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: bit extra because we didn't end up going big up

930
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: the middle, you know with shortstop or second base or whatever.

931
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: We got, you know, spent a little bit, didn't go

932
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: crazy on the outfield, and I think you go get

933
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: somebody here that if Taylor Rodgers is back to his form,

934
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: this is the best bullpen in baseball. Maybe them in

935
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: the Astros, and that's it. Like, don't I don't know

936
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: if there's another bullpen, and maybe the Guardians, but I

937
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: mean their Tier one bullpen, no doubt about it. They

938
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: already are, Like this might make them the best bullpen

939
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: in baseball. I agree, and Rogers could be there. Like

940
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: twenty two traditional stats. If you're a Marins fanly like

941
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: Taylor Rogers, guys, are you kidding me? Yeah?

942
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: He had in sixty four innings, he had a four

943
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: to seven six ERA. He had ten blown saves. Holy shit,

944
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: but he had four holes our best one. Uh yeah,

945
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: twelve batters. Yeah, but look at his advanced stats for

946
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: a little bit. He had almost twelve strikeouts per nine,

947
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: which is not an advanced SAT, but it's still twelve

948
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: strikeouts per nine three three two FIP three two six

949
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: x FIP for one one XCRA, so not nearly as

950
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: bad as the production.

951
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I like it. I really in the track record. Again,

952
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: this isn't We're not this isn't us talking about some

953
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: guy who's stun for ten years. Right, he's been good.

954
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: The underlying stats point towards him still being good. He

955
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: just hit some walls and hit some snags in a

956
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: year where he was traded and and and had a

957
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: lot going on. I think this is the signing too.

958
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what he costs. Relievers are impossible. Sometimes

959
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: I see it and I'm like, that's it, and then

960
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: sometimes I see it, I'm like that much.

961
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Robert Scores got five years? Correct, So we're giving him

962
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: a five year deal?

963
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: Eight? Like, what a two year deal? I think a

964
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: two year deal for Rogers is fine years old. So

965
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: let's say you're twenty Rogers. Oh that's a lot.

966
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: I was going to say two years, eighteen, two years twenty,

967
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: two years twenty. So we just gave two years twenty

968
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: million to Taylor Rodgers. As to add a lefty reliever

969
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: to this bullpen. I don't think you have to trade

970
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: Flexen unless someone over overvalues him, which I don't think

971
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: a lot of teams will his advanced thattsne look that great.

972
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: His just when you watch him It's not like he's

973
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, no offense anything. He's fine. Yeah, he gets out.

974
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: He's a gets outs guy, which I appreciate. But I'm

975
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: not trading him. I'm doing Marco in my five and

976
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get another starty.

977
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: You don't need it. But we signed Geen Sigatt to

978
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: a three year deal.

979
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: We signed Michael Kinfordo to a two year deal, one

980
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: year deal sixteen to five.

981
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Then we signed Taylor Rodgers. There's not much else that

982
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: we need to do here. This team is already a

983
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: ninety win team, and I think we just added three

984
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: or four wins this time at least, and they can

985
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: add more if some of their guys take that leap, right,

986
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, if Matt Brash takes that leap, If if

987
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 1: Kirby takes that leap, Gilbert continues to take that leap,

988
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: this whole team will get better. I have one interesting

989
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: trade partner though, that I have to float. Okay, the

990
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles could user Chris Flexen, and they have a

991
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: lot of relievers, a lot of relievers, including several lefties.

992
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Nick Vespie is a guy that a lot of people

993
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: like and just hasn't quite put it all together, that

994
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: could be an intriguing option. Good stuff. Cionel Perez might

995
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: be untouchable with how discussing he was last year. And

996
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: they've also got Keegan Aiken. That could be a trade partner.

997
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: We don't have to craft one up, but that could

998
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: be a trade partner for Chris Flexen down the line,

999
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: just to just to keep your eyes peeled because they

1000
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: need him. We'll get to the Orioles rotation when we

1001
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: do the Orioles GM episode. But good god, they they

1002
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: could use a Chris Flexen asap, so that that could

1003
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: be a trade partner as well. One of the few

1004
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: teams that like matches up really well with a reliever

1005
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: for a starter kind of swap.

1006
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a very good idea. Okay, so we

1007
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: were done. Julian Riguez at center, Ty France at first

1008
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: swore as a third rally at catcher Kioskar and Wright

1009
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: Winker at DH, Confordo and left Jean Sigura. We signed

1010
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: to a three or forty five million dollar deal. We

1011
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: signed Michael Confordo to a one year, sixteen point five

1012
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: million dollar deal. We have JP Crawford and then on

1013
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: the bench we're going with Murphy, Toro, Haggarty.

1014
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: I want to see umo get it. Yeah, Hummel and

1015
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: Kellnick on the bench.

1016
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably gonna have to cut one of them, but

1017
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: we'll figure.

1018
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: That out later, figure it out on spring training.

1019
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: I gotta see him, I gotta see him, Luis Castillo,

1020
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: Gilbert Robbie Ray, George Kirby, Marco Gonzalez.

1021
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: That's our five in the in the rotation. So we're

1022
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: going with Paul c are we are we giving Brash

1023
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: a shot first as a starter. Are that in spring

1024
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: training to determine that. We'll do a little bit, but

1025
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: we'll go with Marco Slash, Matt Brash exactly or Christie

1026
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: Well who's who wins the job, wants three guys, three

1027
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: guys compete. A good organizations breed competition exactly, and we're

1028
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: a good organization. Paul SeaWorld, Munez, Diego, Castillo. Right now,

1029
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: we're signing Taylor Rogers to a two year, twenty million

1030
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: dollars deal. We still got Penn Murphy, we still got

1031
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: Festa again. We have Flex and Justice Sheffield. It's a

1032
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: fucking good team. It's a good team. It's a good team.

1033
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: Team games those watch on YouTube are shaking our hands,

1034
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: shaking our hands. Did it? I think we did it.

1035
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: I think they they still don't win the division. They should,

1036
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: It'll be like, oh, they'd win any other division, and

1037
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: I think that. Look, here's the thing too, Luio Rodriguez

1038
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: gonna get better, so believe it or not. And he

1039
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: was hurt, you know, he missed time this year. He

1040
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: didn't start, you know, phenomenally compared to how we finished. Like,

1041
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: this is a guy that's only going to get better.

1042
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: So they're going to gain a lot of wins just

1043
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: by the maturation of a lot of their young pieces.

1044
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: I also think ty Frantz bounces back. Yeah, he was

1045
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: friends extremely disappointing in the second half, banged up too,

1046
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: like and adding ta Oscar Hernandez. We didn't do that.

1047
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: They did that for themselves. They did it. Yeah, I

1048
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: was gonna say thank you, Jerry, like we did. This

1049
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: was one of the easier playing GM episodes. We didn't

1050
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: have to do that much. And I think we've seen

1051
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: enough from ty France to expect him to be closer

1052
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one ty France than twenty twenty two,

1053
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: although you take the whole season only a three WRC

1054
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: plus difference. It was just how how much he struggled,

1055
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, in the back half of the year. So

1056
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I think he's going to bounce back and have a

1057
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: really nice season. I think it's a little bit of

1058
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: approach dependent too, if he walks a bit more, But

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Speaker 2: Exactly a couple of house cleaning things. On just baseball

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Speaker 1: You on your toast Big Cubs week. On the prospect

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Speaker 1: an interview with Pete crow Armstrong as well. So if

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Speaker 1: both those guys are really really freaking good prospects. Couple

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