1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, come into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Cubs took three of five from the Brewers. Normally, that's 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, you look at that, you win a series. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Everyone's happy. You move on to the next task at hand. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I would say, this is the first time I've seen 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Craig Council probably you know, in the entire year plus 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: nearly two years that we've covered him kind of disappointed 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: after a series win or not just you know, saying 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: you know, we'll take We'll take the wins and move 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: on to the next series. He kind of made it 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: seem like it was a missed opportunity, he said. I 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: described the series as we kind of held serve. We 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: probably needed a little more. We win three out of five. 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: That it's three wins, but today's stings a bit. Getting 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: today's game obviously would have been a big one. They 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: played a better game than us. That is from after 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: game five of that five game set that they lost, 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: they won the middle three. Aw I just think, you know, 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from our buddy. Jesse Rodgers 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: tweeted before the game, like seven feels very different than 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: five games. Bag. I know it's a I don't know why, 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: but I agree. I like, I'm not sure if it 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: has like it it's a game swing it attered. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also it's almost like a whole nother week 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: coming off the calendar when there's only you know, a 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: handful of those. 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: Left. I think, like. 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Eye test, why it was just crazy how how many 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: swings we had within that. We obviously the the doubleheaders, 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: the rain, the weather all unusual, but like just how 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: dead the team looked on Monday. You various injury news, 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: other stuff we'll get into later. And then to win 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: two games in one day, and like you have jameson 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: tie on come back, you get sparks from different players, 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: whether it was you know, Castro or Casey. And then yeah, 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: to not finish the job, like you know, Council talks 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: a lot about, you know, the group has earned this position, 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: the position that they're in, and that was one where 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 2: they put themselves in a position to do some damage 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: and really kind of reframe this closing stretch. And you know, 43 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: if you're the Brewers that's kind of all you really 44 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: needed to do was just to like avoid total disaster 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,559 Speaker 2: and like give the Cubs a ton of energy and momentum, 46 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: and you know, they just could just kind of scratch 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: off five more games and get closer to their ultimate goal, 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: where the Cubs that increasingly are looking like a wildcard team. 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, the Cubs aren't a bad team. 50 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they're the Brewers are that much better 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: than them, if they're better than them at all. They've 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: gotten really hot, and they've played really well, and the 53 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Cubs match them whenever they play. They play even games. 54 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: That Monday game was obviously not you know, it didn't 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: look like it was an even match matchup, and then 56 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the next four looked very much like these are two 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: teams that can battle each other and match each other 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: stuff for step the Cubs. I think sometimes we lose 59 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: focus of what the Cubs are and like how good 60 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: they are because right now the offense is not playing well. 61 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't care about those three wins. I don't think 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: they played that well in those three wins. Frankly, like, 63 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: especially on Wednesday, they got they got one clutch hit 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and the offense didn't do much else on Wednesday. 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: They were lucky to win that game because the Brewers 66 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: hit the ball on the line regularly Wednesday night and 67 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: didn't get any good luck. And you know, these things 68 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: have a way of evening themselves out, Like the Cubs 69 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: mashed the ball all over the place in Toronto at times, 70 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: even in Saint Louis in some of those games that 71 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: they lost, and they didn't win some of those games, 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: and they probably didn't deserve to win Wednesday's game, and 73 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: they did. But Thursday and Wednesday, the offense looked pretty 74 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: listless to me. Tuesday, there were moments, but you know, 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: some of it was It's not like they were They're 76 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: not crushing the ball like they were. All that said, 77 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: this is this team has so many other positives that 78 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I think we sometimes overlooked because of how poorly the 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: offense is played. They're really good defensively. The starting pitching 80 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: has been the best in baseball for nearly two months now. 81 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: They have really good, high leverage relievers. They are a 82 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: good base running team. They're a really good base running team. 83 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: They make a ton of contact, they put the ball 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: in play. They're fundamentally sound. They do all the little things, 85 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: just like the Brewers do. They have a little bit 86 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: more power than the Brewers, so you in theory, you 87 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: would think that they they could, they should be the 88 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: better offense. They just haven't been slugging as much. Wrigley 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: has been maddening. Yet again, that's no excuse. You got 90 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: to win the games that are put in front of 91 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: you because both teams are playing under the same circumstances, 92 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: same weather. But it does factor into like some of 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: this power output, like the power dip we've seen lately, 94 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: A couple home runs stolen. Not really on Thursday. Thursday 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: was just a flat performance. I didn't like the way 96 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: they looked. We could talk a little bit about We're 97 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about lineup construction. I 98 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: understand there's a lot of fans frustrated. I get it. 99 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I get it. I also think there's some reasoning behind it. 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: We can talk about that in a little bit, uh, 101 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: I think we can. Why Why don't we get to 102 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: our player spotlight real quick, our our draftings player spotlight 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit about Owen Casey Patrick? All right, Patrick, 104 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Owen Casey DK player spotlight. He's been a nice spark. 105 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: That line drive home run was was impressive. The bass 106 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: hit good defense too. I really really like the defense. 107 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 108 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: I want to say he has four hits. If I'm 109 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: remembering correctly, is that right? Does he have four hits? 110 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: He has four hits. Three of them I would get say, like, oh, 111 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: that there's that crazy exit velocity we were talking about. 112 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: There's a like that's that's an impressive he looks impressive. 113 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: And then you know one blue pit and you take 114 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: that he's making more contact than than he was in 115 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: the minors. You know when he was coming up. He's 116 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: closed some of those whole in his game. I had 117 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: a nice chat with Andy Haynes assistant hitting coordinators that 118 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I can't keep track of all the titles now. They've 119 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: had so many different hitting coordinators and they shift roles. 120 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: I think he's just a minor league hitting coordinator. But 121 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Haynes's former MLB hitting coach been with the ORG before 122 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: he's back. This season. They were trd with Casey to 123 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: focus on chase and in zone swing and miss, and 124 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: they've made major adjustments. He improved every month in both 125 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: those categories over the course of the season. Very minor 126 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: tweaks mechanically, it was mostly for according to Casey, was 127 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: mostly a mental thing, and he's done a great job 128 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: embracing a challenge and as he repeats triple A, not 129 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: just trying to Okay, I know I can hit this level. 130 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to just dominate and force their hand. No, 131 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: there are changes you need to make to get to 132 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: get up to the big leagues and to thrive in 133 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: the big leagues. 134 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: I know it's hard to appreciate in the moment sometimes, 135 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: particularly when the Cups are struggling offensively, but if you 136 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: looked at the guys who've given them jolts, really it's 137 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: been these younger hitters who've maybe they weren't drafted by 138 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: the Cubs, but they spent a lot of developmental time 139 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: in the Cub system and obviously Casey, Matshaw, Picrow Armstrong, 140 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting how they've like worked in 141 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: season with guys to make changes and get them to 142 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: better place, even at the major league level. 143 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: If you go back to what Pete did. Obviously Shaw 144 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 3: had to go back. 145 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: To the minors first, but obviously he has been, you know, 146 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: doing stuff at the major league level. 147 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 3: It's not like they're just kind of rolling these guys 148 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: out there and crossing their fingers. 149 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: And I think to do that, I think it's easy, 150 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: like in the winter in Arizona, you know, when you 151 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: know no one's striking out, there's no results. 152 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: To be like, oh yeah, my swing field is great. 153 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: But to do what they did with Casey, to really 154 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: circle that one thing. You had a great piece on 155 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: this in the athletic of like, Okay, these are the 156 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: areas that have to get better, like if he's going 157 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: to not just survive, but excel at the major league level, 158 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: Like it's a very obvious areas to improve, and I 159 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: think it shows kind of an alignment, you know, from 160 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: top to bottom here that. 161 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: Is not always obvious. 162 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: And then you have a player like Casey, you have 163 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: experienced people not just Andy Haynes, but a bunch of 164 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: coordinators and also like you know, the right questions to ask, 165 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: you know, the right people to talk to. 166 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: I would highly recommend checking out that story. 167 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I mean Casey is fascinating just because 168 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 1: you know he's a plowed prospect, And yeah, I appreciate 169 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: player development, like making like you know, prospects are a gamble. 170 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: The Cubs have done a little bit better job at 171 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: bring it at preparing these guys for the highest level. 172 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: It seems like they have good systems in place to 173 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: kind of Okay, they're they're seeing, Okay, this is the issue. 174 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: How do we correct it? Okay, let's let's come up 175 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: with a plan and then they implement it and execute 176 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: and and players usually embrace it. It just seems different 177 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: than than it used to be at times, and and 178 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: and uh, like you said, more collaborative and and just 179 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: more effective. There have so many good examples lately. Uh, 180 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: you want the system to be better. Uh, they need 181 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: to improve in certain areas, but I think they're doing 182 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things right and and ow in case 183 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: he is just another good example of that. Okay, now 184 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: let's turn it over to a lot of rizzo for 185 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: our North side turn pick. 186 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 4: Thanks guys. 187 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 5: The Cubs of one two series in a row. 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Additional terms and responsible gaming 207 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 6: resources see DKNG dot co slash audio. 208 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, we had some news come out. I 209 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: believe that was Wednesday night. Our buddy Jesse Rogers, so 210 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: so kind of him to drop this news in the 211 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: middle of the game and make us all scramble and 212 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: confirm and and and get on top of it. But 213 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker was playing with a hairline fracture in his hand. 214 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just you know, he fractured his hand. 215 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: I guess is the simplest way of saying it. There 216 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: was you know, I think the way it went is 217 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: essentially so. So we did confirm this. Craig Council said 218 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: it afterwards after the game. Yes, this, this has happened. 219 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker spoke before Thursday's game. Everyone has talked about it. 220 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Everyone makes it seem like it's healed now. So what 221 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: happened was there was a slide on June first, head first, 222 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: I want to say it was the first inning of 223 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: a game against the Cincinnati Reds. Had first slide, felt 224 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: like he jammed his finger. Played a couple more innings 225 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: came out of that game, day off the next day, 226 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: I believe, and then he didn't start the next two games. 227 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: In the second of those games he pinch hit late. 228 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: And then he's been playing pretty much ever since. Had 229 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: a great June. About two weeks after the initial checking 230 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: of it, they found so there were X rays. Initially 231 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: they didn't find anything. Two weeks later, it was still 232 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: bothering him. They checked it out again. They found a 233 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: hairline fracture. I guess where the ring finger and pinky 234 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: meat is. Are the specifics that Jesse had, you know 235 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: for me it you know, I wish they would have 236 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: told us. I wish they would have said anything. He 237 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: was playing through it. This is a this is this 238 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: was a guy that chose to play through it. I 239 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: assume when you're not put on the eye, it's up 240 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: to the player whether they want to disclose these things. 241 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: You know, you can't. You can't betray the player's confidence. 242 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: He wanted to play, He was playing really well. There 243 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: was no it didn't seem like there was a reason 244 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: to sit him. And they say it's healing, and that 245 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: it healed. So those are that Those are the things 246 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: we know, and so we have to assume they're true 247 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: and then and then go from there. He's been playing 248 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: terribly since July. I don't think there's any denying that. 249 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: The numbers bear that out. He had two days off 250 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: three games. I don't know if it changes anything. I 251 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna come of how he's playing. But 252 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, there's the whole saga and everything just seems 253 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: very I don't want to say it's just the Cubs 254 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: that do this, but it feels very cubs like. It 255 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: just feels like a cubby occurrence. And you know, I 256 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: don't know what else to take from it. 257 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. 258 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: There's lots of gray areas with injuries. I think we've 259 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: all kind of learned that over the years of someone hurt, 260 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: someone injured, banged up, whatever sort of term you want 261 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: to use. You know, I don't think this was like 262 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: handled great, just when you look at the result. 263 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: Or the outcome here, like I think. 264 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: They were making decisions in real time, and yeah, things 265 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: were kind of rolling there in June, but you know, 266 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: it seems a little convenient to now say that there 267 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: was a fracture there. And it's you know, frustrating when we, 268 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: meaning a media group, were constantly asking you know, the manager, 269 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: the team president, the player. 270 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: Like are you hurt? Are you banged up? Like? 271 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: And there's kind of like hints of everyone's dealing with 272 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: stuff and you know, things like that, and it just 273 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: seems like for me, like Kyle Tucker had it pretty 274 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: good in Chicago of just like he had he was 275 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: on his own routine, he was rarely at his lockers. 276 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: Who's not bothered by the media and then like all 277 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: of a sudden, like this week with the biggest series 278 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: of the year, like it all just kind of came 279 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: crashing down, like the booze from the crowd, more questions 280 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: about his performance just because you know, we're not the 281 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: type start to overreact to like two zero for four games, 282 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: but like just the the numbers had just piled up there, 283 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: just all those ground balls, and then you saw it 284 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: on the field how he was processing it and he 285 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: was not handling it. 286 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: The way he normally does. 287 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: And then you know, counsel finally, you know, kind of 288 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: came around to this idea of a reset a benching, 289 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: which we've all seen as worked before. 290 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: In the past. 291 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: And you know, I go back to when he slid 292 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: into that base in the beginning of June. I think 293 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: my headline was something like, Cubs are hopeful Kyle Tucker's 294 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: avoided like a season changing injury. 295 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: And I know. 296 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: There are some people who read that as if like 297 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: we were being alarmist or you know, click baity or overreacting. 298 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: It's like, no, there are certain players that are that 299 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: important and are only there for a very short amount 300 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: of time that something like that happens. You cannot downplay it, 301 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: you cannot ignore it. And then just knowing the type 302 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: of injury, like I think we've said before, like they 303 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: don't play soccer, so like if your hand is messed up, 304 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: that's kind of important for hitting when you're one of 305 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: the best hitters in the game. 306 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: And like it didn't happen. 307 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Immediately, he played through it, he was productive, and look 308 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: like there's every reason in the world to think that, 309 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: like Kyle Tucker will get through this. Like I have 310 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: a lot more confidence in him figuring it out than 311 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Owen Casey learning the entire league like in two weeks. 312 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: But until that happens, you know, there's gonna be a 313 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: lot of pressure on him. 314 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: And I think it just it all spiraled here and. 315 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: It just shows you how important and sometimes fragile the 316 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: mental side of the game is. I do think that's 317 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: a big part of this here, just it kind of 318 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: just kind of got away from everyone. 319 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you can deny that, you know, 320 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: I hate to play. You know, aren't your psychologist or whatever, 321 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: But it's it's hard to imagine that there's not a 322 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: huge mental impact here. And as things continued to spiral 323 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: as far as his performance. He you know, he it's 324 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: hard to believe that there wasn't like a overthinking of 325 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: things or pressing or whatever you want to call it, 326 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: that the mental aspect of it impacted the way he's 327 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: performing now. And now he's trying everything to try and 328 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: get back to the player we know he can be. 329 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: I want to say that both Cody Bellinger and Niko 330 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Horner played through significant injuries last year and maybe even 331 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: like cracks of bones in the hand. I cannot remember 332 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: the exact moments or how it happened, but I believe 333 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: both of them did. We knew it and didn't make 334 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: big deals out of it. We just didn't like they 335 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: told us, and we moved on. This is what you do. 336 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: They're playing through it. They took a couple of days off. Well, 337 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: they want to play. They don't want to go on 338 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: the eye out. They can play. They can play at 339 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: a certain level that we need them to. Okay, and 340 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: you just did, okay, your ballplayer, You're going to play 341 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: through it. They chose not to handle that this way, 342 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: letting us know that there was a crack, and now 343 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: it just feels like it's become a bigger deal than 344 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: probably it needed to be and tie it all in 345 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: with how good he was, how much he's struggling now, 346 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: how important he is, the fact that he's a free 347 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: agent to be. All these things matter, and they all 348 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: impact the way we attack the story and how it's 349 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: presented and how fans react. Fans wouldn't be booing him 350 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: if he hadn't upset a certain standard. They may not 351 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: be booing him if they knew how he was playing 352 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: through a pretty you know, a break in the hand, 353 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: a broken hand, or whatever you want to call it. 354 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Everybody wants to handle these things differently, 355 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: and this is how they chose to handle it. I 356 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: think it just looks bad, but you know, it's out 357 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: there now. We'll see if he can. Let's talk about 358 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: some lineup decisions. Kyle Tucker was back in the lineup. 359 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. I want to talk a 360 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: little bit about him and who wasn't in the lineup 361 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: and just have Greig Counsel is going to handle it all. 362 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: Ft, fam, When you're playing games, you kind of have 363 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: some stress anxiety. 364 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: Teammates need somebody something to help. 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You deserve quality care from someone who cares. 383 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: All Right, Patrick, Kyle Tucker back in the lineup Thursday, 384 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't look any different. Two groundouts, I want to say, 385 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: a soft lineout and a pop out. Essentially, I think 386 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: his first at bat, his first played appearance, fell behind 387 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: O two and drew a walk. It was it was 388 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: a very nice Kyle Tucker played appearance. But if those 389 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: are the wins we're taking, it's just not it doesn't 390 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: look right. It doesn't is nothing is clicked yet. It 391 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: could be one swing. I asked him about that, and 392 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of baseball. Sometimes it's one swing. 393 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: It's one moment and you're like, ah, there it is, Okay, 394 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm back. I'm not saying he won't find it back. 395 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: He won't find it. He just hasn't yet. But there 396 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: were there was a lot of fan angst on Thursday especially, 397 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I get why fans were upset. 398 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: Matt Shaw wasn't in the lineup and Owen Casey wasn't 399 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: in the lineup. Here's here's my take on the Owen 400 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Casey part. Right now, you have ten players that you 401 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: can argue deserve starting time or are starting caliber position players, 402 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: and eight spots to play them. Kyle Tucker sat for 403 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: three straight games. You're not sitting peek row Armstrong for 404 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Owen Casey. You're not sitting Ian Hap right now. Ian 405 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: Happ had a good game on Thursday. You shouldn't sit 406 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: him against aariighty for own Casey. So the options are 407 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker again for a fourth straight game, or Saya Suzuki, 408 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: who had just had a really good game the night before. 409 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: I think it was time to play Kyle Tucker. I 410 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: think he felt like he was like, Okay, I've worked 411 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: on some things. I want to get back in there. 412 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I want to play. You listen to that. It's okay 413 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: to give Owen Casey a day off. I think it's fine. 414 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: I think he's going to play on occasion. I think 415 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: they're going to find playing time for him. He's not 416 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: an everyday player right now. Matt Shaw, you want to 417 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: scream and yell about that and be upset. It's a 418 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: big game. I kind of understand the frustration, but again, 419 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Willie Castro had a huge series as well. I just 420 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be up up in arms about 421 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: these things. I think Matt Shaw is a really good 422 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: player and he probably should be playing regularly. But everybody's 423 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: been getting days off this whole week. They have fourteen 424 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: games and thirteen days. There's just you need to find 425 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: days off for guys. And I don't think it's a 426 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: day off for owing Casey, he's not part of the 427 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: starting lineup. It was three two days off for Kyle Tucker, 428 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 1: That's what it was, and he was back in the lineup. 429 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: It was a day off for Matt Shaw like everyone 430 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: else got this week. So for me, I just struggle 431 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: to be screaming and yelling about lineup decisions when you 432 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: have ten starter quality players. 433 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: I just think you are so committed to Kyle Tucker 434 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: for this year that you just have to keep running 435 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: him out there. And maybe by disclosing the injury stuff, 436 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: it takes some of the heat off. And I guess 437 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: so it'll be pretty chill in Anaheim, i'd imagine this weekend. 438 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: But at least when whenever he's sitting at really field. 439 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: Now there's like a little more context around it. And 440 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: like if you think you're a playoff team and I 441 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: are gonna be playing in multiple playoff rounds, Like what 442 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: hitter has a better track record than this guy on 443 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: your roster? Like you think, like you know, the Padres 444 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: bullpen is going to be scared of Owen Casey, You 445 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just like when you're thinking 446 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: about matchups, when you're thinking about like the most dangerous 447 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: version of this lineup. 448 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: It has to have Kyle Tucker. 449 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: In there, and you know, getting worked up about Matt Shaw, 450 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: Like it wasn't that long ago everyone was pining for 451 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: Auhanio Suarez and that we're kind of talking about a 452 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: number nine rookie hitter here, Like if your team isn't 453 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: good enough to work around that, Like, don't get so 454 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: fired up. 455 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: About it, you know what I mean. 456 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: It's just like, and I think there's something too of 457 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: what you're saying, Like this stretch of the schedule, this 458 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: point in the season, I mean, I think you know, 459 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: you can also play Devil's advocate, Like maybe this offense 460 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: has been sagging a bit because it's just been run down. 461 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: They've been running out the same players over and over 462 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: again because they're they're their best players, because that's the 463 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 2: way the roster is set up. 464 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: Like I I don't think the individual lineup decision is 465 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: where I would go. But at the same. 466 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: Time, the coups have put themselves in the spot where 467 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: like everything is kind of open for second guessing, right. 468 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when you're off in struggles, everything gets questioned. 469 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: I did see people first guessing it. That's fine, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 470 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: hotthand in there, I get it. I don't think it. Look, 471 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: Willie Castro had a really good series, like he I. 472 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: Mean to it's just too great. Well a couple of 473 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: game so. 474 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: You know you're not They already sat dance by Swanson. 475 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: I think Nico got a start during the series. If 476 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, I'm going off the top of 477 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: my head. I'm not looking at lineups right now. Pretty 478 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: sure Dance Bey sat one of the games. I can't 479 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: remember if Nico sat one of the games. But look, 480 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: they've done a good job. Council has done a good 481 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: job of using what he now has a good bench. 482 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: He went from having a bad bench to a good bench. 483 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: You gotta try, and you have to try and get 484 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker back on track. You cannot just sit him 485 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. I think there's some 486 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: people said just start him back on the road, give 487 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: him the rest of the Milwaukee series off, and start 488 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: them on Friday. I don't know. I just like I think, 489 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: just play him just you have you need him. It 490 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: was he got three games off. Matt Shaw is a 491 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: really good player, and all the credit in the world 492 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: to him for turning things around and becoming this seemingly 493 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: very important cog in the lineup where fans are demanding 494 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: that he play every day and not miss a single game. Ultimately, 495 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: I do wonder you know you you're trying to get 496 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: through the rest of this month or the rest of 497 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: the season. Uh, this is a tough stretch. There's a 498 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of baseball being played right now. I know they're young. 499 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: I know they just need to play sometimes. Uh that's 500 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: not That's not what I'm saying for own Casey especially, 501 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: he's barely been up here. Uh he's He's had plenty 502 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: of time off, but it has Like I just think 503 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: him taking a day off is an big deal. I 504 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: understand the Shaw angst. I think you got to use 505 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: your players. There are plenty of players on this team 506 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: that are capable. They should have delivered. Like there were 507 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: moments where where they needed to hit Kyle Tucker Peaker 508 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Armstrong that both of them need to get going. Kyle 509 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: Tucker in particular, Their offense isn't good enough right now. 510 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Whether they have Matt Shaw on the lineup or own 511 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: case in the lineup or not, it's not playing well enough. 512 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest that is the headline 513 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: right now for this team. It's been far too long 514 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: of another slump. They are incredibly lucky that they have 515 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: good pitching and defense and all these That's the thing 516 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: that you can point to with this team. It's what 517 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: I started with. This team has a lot of positives. 518 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: They're good in a lot of different ways, and that's 519 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: what allowed them to stay afloat right now. And they 520 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: are one of the better teams in baseball record wise, 521 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: performance wise, all of it doesn't feel like that right now, 522 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: but I promise you I saw we saw them win 523 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: games this week because they they were able to do 524 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: different things. 525 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: Uh. 526 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: And their pitching has been remarkable, best in baseball starting 527 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: pitching since the end of June. So uh And and 528 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: I really they're they've got to be exhausted right now. 529 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: But those high leverage arms have put in some great 530 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: work of late. Uh. The key guys Kittridge, Keller, Palencia, 531 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: theo bar Pomerance looks like he's found a second win. 532 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: I was a little concerned there. And he's missing bats 533 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: again and and and looks looks really good. Brazier. Maybe 534 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens this weekend with him. How like 535 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: if uh that there, they may need to make some 536 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if they make some moves this weekend just 537 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: to get through the weekend. We'll we'll see about that, 538 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: all right. Patrick, you're in l A for for three 539 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: and then you're you're out there for the West Coast. 540 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: So we'll be talking about that soon, previewing that and 541 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: then and then heading to and then I guess wrapping 542 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: that up next week. Thanks for listening to everyone. H 543 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: This is Northside Territory. Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, 544 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: subscribe to the YouTube channel, and subscribe to The Athletic 545 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: where Patrick and Iron or on top of all things Cubs. 546 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone,