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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, nine, episode

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Speaker 1: three of their Daily Like Guys, the production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep to have in New America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: June one. My name is Jack O'Brien a K and

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack. I'm Jack O'Brian A. I'm just Jack A

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Speaker 1: host with Miles up Gray. Host with Miles up Gray.

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Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Sultist Hannah Hannah Soultist shout out.

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Speaker 1: I actually never really knew that was by flock of seagulls.

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Speaker 1: I only knew flock of seagulls from Yo, flock of seagulls.

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Speaker 1: You know where why we're here from beginning a fiction

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Grab Miles Gray now batting at

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Speaker 1: the top of the order, a number of four twenty

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Speaker 1: for the Valley Dodge Jersey's Hideo NoHo, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I've been on social media too much recently, but I

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Speaker 1: I had to dig deep for the old school a K.

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Speaker 1: You got that Valley Jersey behind you. The valley it

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Speaker 1: has a lot of problem. You're closed the Valley ship

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Speaker 1: on the Laker jersey and people like, yo, that's for

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Speaker 1: Phoenix man. The fund is that you do. It's been

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Speaker 1: like five because it's the you know, that graphic is

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Speaker 1: from the Phoenix Sun's jersey. That's just the valley on it.

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Speaker 1: But when I saw that, I'm like, man, it's only

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Speaker 1: one valleyast the San Fernando Valley, So let me put

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Speaker 1: that ship on the Laker jersey and represent from my

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Speaker 1: fucking town. And it's funny because one half I was

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Speaker 1: telling Carl Tart because he has some ship to say too,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, look, it's funny, man. Like everybody

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Speaker 1: in the valley that I know, they are like knocking

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Speaker 1: my door down to be like how do I get? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: trash man, what is this? So it is what it's.

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Speaker 1: But you know what always rep where you're from. Is

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Speaker 1: there like a regional spec sophicity to who reps the

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Speaker 1: Lakers versus the Clippers or is it just all Lakers everywhere?

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Speaker 1: And then like some Clippers fans again in my life,

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Speaker 1: it's the Contrarians that ended up being Clipper fans because

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Speaker 1: even then, like growing up in the you know, like

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Speaker 1: our first memories or the Showtime Lakers and then the

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Speaker 1: Randy Fund years were absolutely abysmal, and you know that's

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Speaker 1: when I think the real ones hung on. Obviously the

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Speaker 1: Kobe Shacky years brought more people, but look, there's no

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Speaker 1: geography to it. It's just, you know, you get down

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Speaker 1: how you want to. I'm just saying, man, these these

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Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns fans starting to feel feel themselves a little

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Speaker 1: bit like they can come out your neck for for

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Speaker 1: a jersey thing. I mean that they can. But just

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Speaker 1: because they're about to win the championship. People, Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: people who do you want to who get upset? I

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Speaker 1: just say, you know what, I can never get mad

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Speaker 1: at someone being proud of where they're from. And that's

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Speaker 1: all that is. Has nothing to do with the Sun's

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Speaker 1: just being me being proud, you know, San Fernando Valley Child,

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Speaker 1: barring an injury, that's that's my pick is the Phoenix Suns. Well,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by someone who didn't know they were on the sports podcast. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They are a very funny and talented actor and writer.

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Speaker 1: You've seen on Keenan and Indebted and a Black Lady

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Speaker 1: Sketch Show and shrill and the movie Desperadoes, which we

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Speaker 1: loved here on Daily se Guys. Please welcome Nicle Furma.

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Speaker 1: What's up? How's welcome? Welcome? Thank you? I love that.

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Speaker 1: I like doing that sound when I'm introduced room. You

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Speaker 1: really went to parts of your voice I think to honor,

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Speaker 1: like the tambre of the horn sound. Yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 1: hit the tamber you gotta get that. Yeah, exactly got

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Speaker 1: a great hear you got a great here in Nicole.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for going. Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I know you're l a based. Where are you from originally?

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Speaker 1: Where'd you grow up? I'm eerginally from Kansas, actually from

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Speaker 1: just outside Kansas City, Missouri and kans they're kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm from Kansas. The Wizard of Oz was inspired by

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Speaker 1: What's something we don't get about Kansas? What what's something

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Speaker 1: they go back to what's the food that you can't.

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Speaker 1: know what's funny is well, it's like barbecue is Kansas

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Speaker 1: little American cheese. It's like it's like trashy sandwiches, but

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Speaker 1: they're really good. And I don't think that they have

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Speaker 1: And everybody was talking about what was this amazing restaurant

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, Nicole, we like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guest what is something from your search

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Speaker 1: history that is revealing about who you are? Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. The most recent thing that I've been looking

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Speaker 1: Thing is whistling Dixie. Okay, that's right, Nicole. What's something

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Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Oh? You know what I think

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Speaker 1: What like life skills? Because I just think it's crazy that, like,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy personally that we don't learn how to speak

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Speaker 1: someone's like, you know, like turbo taxes a scam? Right,

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Speaker 1: you know there's free software you can use, right, you know, blog,

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Speaker 1: But you don't grow up hearing any of that. So

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Speaker 1: I just end up a mess, like at those zero

426
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Speaker 1: hour begging people for suggestions on It's like I don't

427
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Speaker 1: need to know Canthagorian theorem. I need to know how

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Speaker 1: to fill out a W two. I still don't even know.

429
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Speaker 1: Every time I fill it out, and like, wait, am

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Speaker 1: I doing this right? Am I doing it wrong? Am

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Speaker 1: I getting in trouble? I'm always worried that I'm the

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Speaker 1: government's gonna one day just like knock on my door

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Speaker 1: and arrest me for something I didn't even know that

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Speaker 1: I did wrong. Well, that is the risk of not

435
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Speaker 1: being white in this country also, so it's either way

436
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Speaker 1: either way. They could just come on by right right, right, right.

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Speaker 1: She can go left pretty quickly. They can't go left

438
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. But yeah, I think that's I think that's underrated.

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Speaker 1: The texting in particular is purely like in order to

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Speaker 1: create an entire category of jobs, because like other countries,

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Speaker 1: it's just like they give you your bill, They're like,

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Speaker 1: here's what you I just heard about that recently. I

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Speaker 1: didn't even know that was a thing. I'm like, why

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Speaker 1: don't they just give us a bill? Right? It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like being at a restaurant and then like after

446
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: you're like, before you could say can I get the check?

447
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: You gotta hire somebody to intervene and help like facilitate

448
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: the transaction because you're like, hold on, man, you wrote

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Speaker 1: down everything I fucking order. Don't you know what I

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Speaker 1: owe you? You know what a noe? Please find your

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Speaker 1: own bill cons you know whatever bill aggregat or whatever

452
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Speaker 1: the title would be, to add up your bill and

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Speaker 1: then you can pay us. And it's like if you

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Speaker 1: do it wrong, will audit you? And if you do yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm paying this other person like fifteen bucks on

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Speaker 1: top of whatever. He's gonna tell me, I, oh, what

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Speaker 1: the yeah? And also that's the other thing. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: fifteen bucks. Sometimes you'll have to pay him thirty bucks.

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Speaker 1: You don't know why. You don't know what the logic is.

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Speaker 1: And then they'll tell as they're reading your bill at

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Speaker 1: the restaurant, they'll tell you all these ingredients and things

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Speaker 1: that you've never heard of. You're like, what is happening.

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Speaker 1: I'll just trust you on this. I'm gonna trust you

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Speaker 1: that that mac and cheese was twenty or whatever. Like

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Speaker 1: you just like you start to get so frazzled. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's crazy that we don't teach kids how

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Speaker 1: to do that. There's a lot of things, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the always been the main one for

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Speaker 1: me is I can't believe that I can have conversations

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Speaker 1: with an accountant and I feel so lost and it's okay,

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Speaker 1: and like that's just because we never got that education.

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Speaker 1: There should be like in gym classes, like hey man,

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Speaker 1: we're doing the change the car tire unit. Yes, s

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Speaker 1: and you're like, yo, you don't have to have a

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Speaker 1: real car be like here's a jack Understand they're jack

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Speaker 1: points in every car, depending on what kind of car

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Speaker 1: it is. And this is how you do it. Here's

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Speaker 1: how you remove the nuts, this is how you put

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Speaker 1: them back on. Exactly it is. It's it's exactly that

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Speaker 1: I think. There's like, I mean interpersonal things, Yes, you

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Speaker 1: can learn them from your parents, but it's like maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, learn how to break up with someone

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Speaker 1: instead of ghosting them, like little things like where it's

484
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Speaker 1: like you just teach people to be like functioning humans

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Speaker 1: in the world instead of teaching them. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say shape ever that seems to say that,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's like who cares, like teach some

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Speaker 1: some real ships that we can have humans that know

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Speaker 1: how to do things. You know, well, we do have

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Speaker 1: home mach and that's where we learn how to like

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Speaker 1: recently with people, you learned how to operate a sewing machine,

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Speaker 1: and I think I had to design my own cereal box.

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Speaker 1: Where did you grow up? And there was like a

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Speaker 1: baking thing I grew up. This was in Dayton, Ohio

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Speaker 1: and Lexman, Kentucky. And you were saying you grew up

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Speaker 1: in l a miles right. Yeah, see I grew up

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Speaker 1: in Kansas obviously, and we I was having this conversation

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Speaker 1: where I think a lot of Midwestern kids that we

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Speaker 1: got home at because I like learned how to make

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Speaker 1: a pair of pajama pants and a cookie or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we had home X still yeah, but that would

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Speaker 1: be the perfect opportunity to like home economics, like what

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Speaker 1: are the economic things that how to operate at home,

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Speaker 1: how to operate an apartment, how to you know, figure

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Speaker 1: out like what your budget needs to be at home?

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Speaker 1: Would be a good thing to teach there. But instead

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Speaker 1: it's just like, well, here's what they needed to know

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00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: in the frontier days, like so something by hand, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the frontier days, how to terrorize Native people and then

510
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Speaker 1: it's your land. But yeah, I think like I didn't

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Speaker 1: have home Max, but I had Spanish ever since second grade,

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Speaker 1: and second language had to happen until I mean high school.

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Speaker 1: I think it became optional or something after a certain point.

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Speaker 1: But oh, really, see, that's very cool. I think that

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Speaker 1: we should everybody should have that in school. My kid,

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Speaker 1: my kid, I don't have a kid. My nephew. That

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Speaker 1: was weird. My nephew goes to a school where they

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Speaker 1: teach French. So you learned French and English obviously from

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Speaker 1: you know, very young age. I think they should do

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Speaker 1: that in all schools. I don't see why not that's

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Speaker 1: cool that you learned Spanish so you can get influent. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm I know enough to get by and not like,

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Speaker 1: you know, express my needs to people at the very

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Speaker 1: least my human needs. But like I can't get too

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Speaker 1: common lex obviously. But yeah, I think, yeah, I mean

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00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: it really is. There's a benefit to really having multiple languages.

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Speaker 1: Like I grew up with my mom speaking Japanese to me,

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Speaker 1: so I have had the benefit of growing up in

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Speaker 1: like a bilingual household, and I don't it's I think

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Speaker 1: it's not underscored enough what that does when you can

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Speaker 1: when your mind, you're able to think in different languages

532
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Speaker 1: and how that kind of opens pathways a lot for

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Speaker 1: problem solving and things like that. So to the polyglots,

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00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, learn some languages. Even now I see so

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00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: many people using babble and stuff like that, So get it,

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Speaker 1: how you live. But I feel like there's also they

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Speaker 1: should approach the business world like so so much of

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Speaker 1: Like when when you talk to somebody about like investing

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00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: and like your financial future, it's just it's like talking

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00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: to somebody who just learned a foreign language and then

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Speaker 1: they use that to their advantage to like create a barrier,

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00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: so you don't know, like what the funk they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if if we really wanted to like

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Speaker 1: put everybody on equal footing, they would just teach you

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Speaker 1: what all those words meant. Yeah, I think that is

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Speaker 1: That's probably what it is, is just to keep their

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00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: keep different classes of people or levels of knowledge so

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00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: that people can be you know, divided in differently. Yeah,

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00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: it's because that's Yeah, it's like when you sign a contract.

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Speaker 1: So many people sign a contract in the when they're young,

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Speaker 1: you know, credit cards, whatever it is. Then they just

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00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: sign their life away as the student loans or whatever

553
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: whatever it can be. And we don't learn about how

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00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: to deal with that stuff. We just have to experience

555
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: it and mess up on the way. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: And we're back and just more more anecdotes about what

558
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: former President Donald Trump is up to these days. One

559
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: thing he's doing is turning down being Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah. I mean, because I remember we talked

561
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Speaker 1: about this wacky idea while back about how he could

562
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: return with like a house run and then if they

563
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: take the House, they would make him speaker to be

564
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: like the ultimate troll king to Joe Biden. But I

565
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: think he knows that that's kind of like a cuk

566
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Speaker 1: move for him, and he wants to be a Chad

567
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Speaker 1: and he probably wants to be president. So his spokesperson

568
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: came out very quickly and was like, Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: zero interest, okay in being the Speaker, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's also interesting to know, like what would he possibly

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Speaker 1: be running for. I think the only reason we also

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00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: talked about why he didn't announce his re election bit

573
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: immediately is like it would change a lot of the

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Speaker 1: donations he's received, and he wouldn't be able to use

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Speaker 1: them in the same way if he said, oh, now

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm running for president, because now that's part of

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Speaker 1: your election fund. So I think this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: like will he won't be kind of thing for a minute,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know a lot of the other thing

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00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: is too. There is there is a way for him

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Speaker 1: to be speaker without being elected, as Jack alluded to

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, because you know, contrary to popular belief,

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Speaker 1: you do not have to be an incumbent member or

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Speaker 1: member of the House of Representatives to be Speaker of

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Speaker 1: the House. It's just traditionally been someone who was elected

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Speaker 1: to the to the House of Representatives. So, um, I

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Speaker 1: think going along with all of that, it seems like

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Speaker 1: probably not what's going to happen, because I think at

589
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think his ego just

590
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: couldn't handle not being like the president. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 1: just basically like that is the only thing keeping us

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Speaker 1: from that because like we're entering this new phase where

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Speaker 1: the entire you know, reason for existence of the Republican

594
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Speaker 1: Party is to troll people who aren't Republicans and to

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Speaker 1: raise the authoritarian like possibilities and in America and like

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Speaker 1: that this would make sense from that standpoint. I guess, yeah,

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00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: that's the sort it's at odds with his ego. The

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00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: one thing that everything like if they were super focused

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00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: on the factory, they could get it done were it

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00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: not for his ego. But that thing is just too

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00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: it's just too much of a force, like it's it's

602
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: it's getting in the way of things, or maybe it isn't.

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00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we're very lucky, but by some

604
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: standards that he's so bad at his job and so

605
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: scattered and not focused and unwilling to listen to people

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00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: who have any experience and sort of political power. Yeah,

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00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of senators, like there's a few people

608
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: who who just can't speak up. They're like, oh, his

609
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: election endorsements are unusual to just say they're bullshit and

610
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna funk up your chances. But y'all are so

611
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: scared that that's it turns into all this like mitigating

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00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: and you know, just be like, wow, let's be euphemistic

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00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: about his terrible leadership skills. Mm hmm. And then he

614
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: also wants to sue what does what does he want

615
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: to do use the Department of Justice. This is the thing.

616
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: This early in nineteen he was he was talking to

617
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: lawyers and advisors about like the FCC, the courts, and

618
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: maybe even the Department of Justice about what they could

619
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: do to probe or like tamper back or hold back

620
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: shows like SNL or Jimmy Kimmel because he felt that

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: these were quote the news and we're also quote ads

622
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: for Democrats, so he felt it kind of fell under

623
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: that like you know, equal airtime kind of ship going on,

624
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: or is like this seems like this is all kinds

625
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: of messed up that they can just do that and

626
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: just dunk on me and then that's considered satire or whatever.

627
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: So he was really looking into how he could like

628
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: legally maneuver and you know, like essentially just shut these

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Speaker 1: groups up so you know, dribs and drabs every day

630
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Speaker 1: about things that we're learning about. I mean, I was

631
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: just having a conversation about how I don't watch the

632
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: news very often, but I do watch like you know,

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Speaker 1: the Daily Show or SNL, Like you see those types

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Speaker 1: of shows and that where you get a lot of

635
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Speaker 1: your news. So you know what, maybe he's right, maybe

636
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Speaker 1: we're getting all of our information from comedy. Thank you.

637
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Speaker 1: You're like, wait, Trump's the president. I thought it was

638
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: like a bit they were doing for four. I thought

639
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: that was a joke. You mean, Alan Balton was impersonating

640
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: the actual president. I don't like that. I don't like that.

641
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: That was a mean character. I didn't like that character,

642
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: not at all. Such a good impress. Yeah, it was good.

643
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Joe Mansions compromise. Just the most frustrating

644
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: ship the way the Democrats are dealing with Republicans, just

645
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: trying to end voting rights for Americans m M. Yesterday

646
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. You know, as we record this, you don't

647
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: know what the result is of this vote, but we

648
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: know it's not gonna succeed because we know where the

649
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: Republicans are, we know where people like Joe Mansion and

650
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema are. And there's just like this whole thing

651
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: about this Joe Mansion compromise bill that you know, it's

652
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: the it's it's the Mansion compromise. It's it's it's his

653
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: way of doing by part and ship because you know,

654
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: the reason he couldn't get behind the For the People Act,

655
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: which is the only one of the only legislative hopes

656
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: that we have to preserve any kind of like voting

657
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: rights or to create any kind of some semblance of

658
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: fairness in voting. He didn't like that the Republicans didn't

659
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: vote for it, so he's got his own version. It

660
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: has some of the things that Democrats want. It also

661
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 1: has some things that the Republicans want. But the long

662
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: like road to this point has everyone kind of like,

663
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: fuck it, man, We'll just take this shitty version of

664
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: the bill because this guy won't and the filibuster either

665
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: will Cinema and I guess this is the closest thing

666
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: we can get. But the thing is, the Republicans are

667
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: not going to vote for this, so where are we

668
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: with all of this? It's just it really just does

669
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: my head in trying to understand how the Democrats can

670
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: just look at this and say, oh, what do we do?

671
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the Republicans don't even want to have a

672
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: debate on this bill because they know it will completely

673
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: throw a wrench in their gears to cheat in the elections,

674
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and so I just it really, it really is frustrating

675
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: because you you have Democrats just actively watching the sabotage

676
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: that's going in many states concurrently right now. Ever, since

677
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: the November election, there have been all kinds of really

678
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: fucked up voting laws and regulations put into place. And

679
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: this is the thing. I'm not saying navigating DC is easy,

680
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: but it's the lack of identifying threats and acting accordingly

681
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: that that just kills me. And they know what's going

682
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: to happen after a few election cycles of having these

683
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: kinds of voting rights in place, So I don't I

684
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: just it really makes me more frustrated. If you haven't

685
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: been radicalized already by looking at the state of this country,

686
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: this should really make you look at this system and

687
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: realize these people know they're looking straight at what like

688
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: this title wave of coming at them of a voter suppression,

689
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: and they're still doing things like whoa dude, what do

690
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: we do with the Philip buster? Should we? Oh? Maybe

691
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: if we get them on record saying they don't like this,

692
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: that will help in an election. It's like, there, we're

693
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: not playing They're not playing the same game at all,

694
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: but they still insist on this thing and it's disheartening,

695
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: But so is there any chance that they like when

696
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: the Republicans don't vote for his exception or his the

697
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: Mansion compromise, compromise that like they're going to that, he'll

698
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: then decide to like grow a backbone and play hardball.

699
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of people have gamed that

700
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: out since he started saying I don't I don't know

701
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: about the fool of Buster, because that was the only

702
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: way that anything could really happen substantively. That they're saying, well,

703
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: first I'll try, and then he'll try again, and then

704
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: maybe at that point he'll realize, actually, yeah, I've they

705
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: really won't do anything. Maybe they are the problem. But

706
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: that's assuming that Joe mansions. You know, in his heart

707
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: of hearts, he wants to preserve anything resembling fair elections

708
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: in this country, or not even preserving because we don't

709
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: have them to begin with, but have the March words

710
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: fair elections. Yeah, it just makes you very cynical. But yeah,

711
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: there's I mean, they see it coming. And there's so

712
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: many groups now who are just changing like their focus

713
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: from talking about like real like specific issues to keep

714
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: talking to people on the hill to be like you

715
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: have to do something about the voting rights, like that's

716
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: really what are you gonna do after that? Because if

717
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: they set the table like this, you can't there's not there.

718
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to dig your way out of it.

719
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: But if we can start putting these laws into place

720
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: to make them as you know, as balanced as possible

721
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: and not have all these obstacles for people to vote,

722
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: then maybe you have a chance of getting you know,

723
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: certain things done. But this is part of the I

724
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: think the disgusting nature of our two party system and

725
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: why you know, a lot of people say like, this

726
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: is why this doesn't work, this is why we have

727
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: incremental change and people still not having their meat needs met.

728
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: So well, speaking of not having their needs met, let's

729
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: talk about people in retail job. I feel like they're

730
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: starting to wake up to the fact that America trades

731
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: workers like ship basically and they're they're fleeing. Six hundred

732
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: thousand retail workers just put in their notice they're leaving

733
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: their jobs in April. In April that was like this figure.

734
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: That was the largest one month exit from like a

735
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: given industry that the Labor Department has ever seen since

736
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: they started collecting data. So they're like wow, and I think,

737
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's like everything these people were they went

738
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: through all this ship over the last year, dealing with customers,

739
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: dealing with you know, being understaffed and having to do

740
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: way more ship while also having this label of essential

741
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: without any real gratitude really attached to it from their

742
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: employers and people. Yeah. I mean there was like Kroger

743
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: did a hero's bonus for like two seconds and then like, okay,

744
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: called them heroes. Isn't that enough? What is? Come on?

745
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: It's called the hero bonus? I mean, but yes, I'm

746
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: the hero in the C suite because I put a

747
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: sunset on that and it didn't go the whole time

748
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: of the pandemic. But this other thing is like, you know,

749
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: a lot of people just on part of that. It's

750
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: not that they're just quitting, because I think if you

751
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: listen to Republicans, it's going to be like, well, this

752
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: is what happens when Joe Biden gives people some stimulus

753
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: checks and unemployment. These people are going to other jobs.

754
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: These aren't just not working, They're just saying, fucking retail

755
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: was fucked up and I don't want to do it.

756
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are finding other places, like

757
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: insurance agencies, mari wanted dispensaries, banks, local governments, you know,

758
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: where they can have customer service skills but also have

759
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: like things like better wages, benefits, things like that. And

760
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going some people going back

761
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: to school or learning new trades or waiting till they

762
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: can get childcare to like better their options. So it's uh,

763
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: I think it's really telling, you know, where we're at

764
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: it such, especially with the fact that we constantly have

765
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: this that we're seeing now where people are refusing to

766
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: work for sub subsistence wages and they want to they

767
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: want to be able to have a dignified life like

768
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: you should. It just shouldn't matter where you work, just

769
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: the fact that you can contribute unfortunately to this consumer

770
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: economy or whatever, that you can have a life, you

771
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: can have a home to sleep in, rather than well,

772
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: do you have enough jobs for a home? Do you

773
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: have enough jobs to have a child? That's the art

774
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: the equations so backward. Yeah, I feel like a lot

775
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: of people are just seeing I feel like people in

776
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: office jobs that we're working nine to five regular jobs,

777
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: they got to step back while they were working from

778
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: home and doing zoom jobs, and so they're kind of

779
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: having this moment of being like, I don't need to

780
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: go into the office, or I only want to work

781
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: two days in the office. The rest of the days

782
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: that can work remote and still get all of the

783
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: work I need to get done. And so it's like

784
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: they already have their moment. And now the retail workers

785
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: now that things are slowing down there like what was

786
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: this ship that we just dealt with for the past

787
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: year and some change, and so now they're just like

788
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm out, Like I think were in general, just having

789
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: these awakenings of being like, we don't deserve to be

790
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: treated like this, and we're not getting paid well enough

791
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: for being taken care of, so we gotta go find

792
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: something different. And I'm glad that so many people are leaving.

793
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: Maybe people, maybe someone will wake up and make some changes.

794
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I worked retail back the day. Is not fun.

795
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: It's not like I get it. And I think for

796
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: even before the pandemic, a lot of people were like,

797
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: this is just it's a tough job and there's very little.

798
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing in return that makes it worth our time,

799
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: aside from the crunch of living in America where dude,

800
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: you can't just quit your job and you know, pivot

801
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: to something else quickly. Because some people. You know, a

802
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: lot of people live checked the check and that disruption

803
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: in their income can be disastrous. So yeah, I mean

804
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: I I these are the moments too where you're like, God,

805
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: if some people just had their ship together, you know, politically,

806
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: they could look at what's happening here and be like, yeah,

807
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: there's a there's a way to get support for from

808
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: a lot of Americans that would help a lot of

809
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: people with out being like who's a Republican and who's

810
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: a Democrat or whatever, and just like, you know, guide

811
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: this thing by something called human dignity. But you know

812
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the perfect thing to be a priority in politics. No,

813
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: unfortunately not, and especially again when you have people like

814
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: Joe Manchin who got there. He's getting He got an

815
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: award from the Chamber of Commerce for the Bipartisanship Award,

816
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: which is basically because he took a ship on the

817
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: fifteen dollar minimum wage hike. So he gets awarded by

818
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: these business associations like the Chamber of Commerce to say

819
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: he is a hero of bipartisanship. No, he's the fucking

820
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: fullback who blew up your you know, opportunity to whatever.

821
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: So he's it's all just obstruction, and yeah, you hope

822
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: that these things will all add up on some level

823
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: because or maybe they'll just be like, then this is

824
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: why we need robots. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're sending

825
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: like retail in particularly, you're sending people into like impossible

826
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: situations like if if you've ever worked retail, like the

827
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: American consumer, you're supposed to like going with the premise

828
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: that the consumer, the customer is always right and like

829
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: that's and the consumer like goes into any interaction knowing

830
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: that and just like it's just such a fucking brutal

831
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: dynamic to then like not pay them exorbitantly. Well, like

832
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: it's not pay them a living wage, like like you

833
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: were saying earlier, they have to get multiple jobs just

834
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: to be able to support their family, and they're working

835
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: so much for what in the isn't the restaurant industry

836
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: also having a huge, like hiring problem because because at

837
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's you know, enough is

838
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: enough for people? And yeah, it's it's funny because you

839
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: see people I've seen people who work retail, like who

840
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: manage our retail store have way better communication skills and

841
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: like FBI hostage negotiators, you know, what I mean, Like

842
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: the Ship, I'm like, oh my god, this person is

843
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: racist as a fuck in your face, and you've somehow

844
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: just fucking shoulder hips head baked euro stepped around their

845
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: bullshit and then got them to be like feel heard

846
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: and then they leave. O God, And I'm like, and

847
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: they're not paying you, Ship. This is fucked up. And

848
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: I think that's what you know. You. I commend people

849
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: who are taking these things into their own hands, and

850
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I hope that you know that they can enter a

851
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: job market that will, you know, reward them for their

852
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: skills as well, because yeah, unfortunately retails in it, and

853
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: especially like working in retail, people come up to you

854
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: thinking you are the ex company. You're like, you're the

855
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: son or daughter or child whoever owns the company or

856
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: the store. Right fuck okay, I'm just making T shirts

857
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: in here. I'm gonna take my business elsewhere. I'm like, okay, well,

858
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm starting on this graphic and I can't press it

859
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: to these sweatpants that you want. But what is this about?

860
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: On the website it says you have it. I'm like,

861
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're not paying Ship. Also, you don't

862
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: know my boss hasn't paid to My last two paychecks bounced.

863
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: So what you want to do? What have you seen

864
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: the TikTok with the guy working at Ikea? Y. Yeah,

865
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: it's so good because that's what everybody that works in

866
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: customer service and retail just wants to say, because I

867
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: don't know. It's so strange how customers suddenly either forget

868
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: or just don't understand how it works. But yeah, they

869
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: think that you are John Ikea or whatever it is.

870
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: And it's like, I am not the company. I am

871
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: simply a man trying to make money. You know. It's

872
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: it's not I don't I can't do anything for you. Yeah,

873
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: because they getting right also, they getting their heads where

874
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: they the word no doesn't exist if you're a customer

875
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: according to something. Yeah, And I think it offers people

876
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: to like in this country, it's like the one place

877
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: you can go in with your sense of entitlement and

878
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: someone kind of has to half oblige it or at least. Yeah,

879
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: like other some places, you know, you can't come in

880
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: with that fucking energy, like for a certain context in

881
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: your life, you can't have that fucking energy with people.

882
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: But in this one you can suddenly now project all

883
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: of your frustrations on someone who's working retail or whatever

884
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: and go off, and then these people can't fucking clap back,

885
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 1: although you do see it more and more now where

886
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: you see conflicts with workers and people getting in people's faces,

887
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: and you guess what, you're also dealing with a stretched

888
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: out humans. So maybe things will happen. That could be

889
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: a class that they teach in schools, like working retail

890
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: for one day. They make every kid work in retail

891
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: one day. Dealing with somebody who thinks that you have

892
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: to assume that they're always right is like such a

893
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: like imagine I like the comparison of a hostage negotiator,

894
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: because imagine if the hostage negotiator had to deal with

895
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: like a rule that the terrorst is always right and

896
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: the terrorists knows that they're supposed to have that assumption.

897
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Like it's a completely it's a completely impossible situation. I

898
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: want one billion dollars in unmarked bills and a fueled jet. Okay,

899
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: let me talk to your manager. I am the manager,

900
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: and I and I love what you're saying right now,

901
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: and that's going to be heard. What I can offer

902
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: you right now is maybe ten off in the next purchase. Okay, fine, okay, fine, shit,

903
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: I gotta quit this motherfucker. I hate the coach store.

904
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I hate the coach Store. All right, let's take a

905
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk Brittany. And

906
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: we're back, and the New York Times is really, you know,

907
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: earning that paycheck, earning that reputation with their were porting

908
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: on Britney spears only. Uh So they got some leaked

909
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: documents from there were confidential court records that they got

910
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: their hands on, and basically what they found is that,

911
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, her fans are onto something. She's been trying

912
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: to get out of this conservatorship earlier and more often

913
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: than had previously been known. As what the article said.

914
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: She articulated, she feels the conservatorship has become an oppressive

915
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: and controlling tool against her. That's in a two thousand

916
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: sixteen report. So that's like before anybody was saying ship.

917
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: And there's also like an involuntary stay at a mental

918
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: health facility, which I think a lot of the people

919
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: in the Free Brittney movement where speculating was what happened

920
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: when she had to like take that break, and then

921
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot of like performing against her will her dad

922
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: like won't let her restain her kitchen cabinet because he's

923
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: that's one of the details he wouldn't. He was like

924
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: that costs too much money. She's pulling in like sixty

925
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: million dollars, and this dude is just like has all

926
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: this like control over her finances, has control over who's

927
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: allowed around her, like he can be like, no, I

928
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: don't like them, They're a bad influence. And so early on,

929
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: like one of the first complaints about the conservatorship, they

930
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: were like, we think this is just her boyfriend having

931
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: like undue influence on her and like being a bad influence.

932
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: It's just like a complete like it really is kafka esque,

933
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: Like it's fucking impossible and a completely impossible situation, like

934
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: the literally the only way for her to communicate because

935
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: she's presenting all the ship to the judge and the

936
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: judge is just like okay, we hear you, and then

937
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: just leaving ship in her dad's hands. And this conservatorship

938
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: has gone on for what twelve years, something extremely long

939
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: for a conservatorship because there while the person is incapacitated. Yeah,

940
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: that's I mean, it's not like designed for this at all.

941
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: It's designed for people who like in the short term,

942
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: like don't don't have control of their own faculties. Like

943
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: this idea that it's this long term like money making

944
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: thing like that seems to be the sort of ideal

945
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: that the Conservatorship side goes in with. There's also just

946
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: like this weird underpinning of like we've talked before about

947
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: the Southern dead culture of like you know, having the

948
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: debutante balls where you're like presenting your daughter as like

949
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: a viable like partner slash well show horses. Actually interesting

950
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: you say that because her mom joined her fight to

951
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: end the conservatorship. In her complaints, said that Mr. Spears

952
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: had referred to his daughter as quote a race horse

953
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: who has to be handled like one O. Yeah, so

954
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: burn it all down. And so her dad's lawyer, who

955
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: was in that Britney Spears documentary that the New York

956
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Times did that like kind of captured the Z guys

957
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: about a year ago. Like so now she went back

958
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: to working for the dead, and she issued this statement

959
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: that Brittany knows her daddy loves her and that he

960
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: will be there for her whenever and if she needs him.

961
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: It's yeah, dropping that daddy in is just like such

962
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: a I don't know what's also like those um is

963
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: it the dances where like it's it's this idea of

964
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: the dad like owning the child. She's almost like she's

965
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: his girlfriend until another man takes her and then she

966
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: becomes that. Yeah, those those are like called like chastity

967
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: walls or something where you like betrothe your virginity to

968
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: your dad, and they were the rings and every of

969
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: your dad and you like your dad gives you a

970
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: ring and it's like this, it's so fucking weird. And

971
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: like her complaints have included her being like he's like

972
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: obsessive and like obsessed with me and with my life

973
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: and like won't leave me alone. He also is like

974
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: a frequently relapsing alcoholic. It's just like a it's a

975
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: real fucking mess. I can only imagine what that relationship

976
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: is like. To where you have a father who's already

977
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: struggling with his own issues and it's probably in his

978
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: own mind like looking at Brittany to help him feel like, well,

979
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm in control of this thing. I might not other stuff,

980
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: but I have this thing I can be in control.

981
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: And and then that runaway train of no accountability. Yeah,

982
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: it's fucking awful. And then this guy's just sitting on

983
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: her money and ship. Some of the details are like

984
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: truly like you know, a she lives in a prison

985
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: of like her She was being tested for drugs numerous

986
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: times weekly, and her credit card was held by her

987
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: security team or assistant and used at their discretion. And

988
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: then she wasn't allowed to restay in her own cabinet.

989
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm forced into a mental health facility against her will

990
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: on exaggerated grounds, which she viewed as punishment for her

991
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: standing up for herself and making an objection during a rehearsal,

992
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: and then she was forced to perform while sick with

993
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: a four degree fever. If she doesn't have a cell

994
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: phone either, she's not allowed to have a phone. That's

995
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: what that's old yas that's like cult like mind control,

996
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: ship and like the conservatorship is just legally so fucked up.

997
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: She has to pay for lawyers on both sides, including

998
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: the lawyers arguing against her wishes. So she recently got

999
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: a eight hundred nine thousand dollar bill from one set

1000
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: of her dad's lawyers, which covered four months of work,

1001
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 1: including media strategizing for defending the conservator Ship. So she's

1002
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: paying for them to like launch a media campaign about

1003
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: why the Conservatorship is good. It's just she ceased to

1004
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: be a person. Yeah, she's like, she's I p She's

1005
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: an estate. She's not a human being. And it's really

1006
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: alarming to see like all this paternalistic, fucked up incest.

1007
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: You I don't know, it's just all fucking It's so disgusting.

1008
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: And then to think that all of this is just

1009
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: sort of spun out of a few incidents earlier on

1010
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: in her life. Just to be like, Okay, this is

1011
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: the moment now that I can rush control from my

1012
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: daughter and now she's fully in this like glass menagerie

1013
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: that I can you know, I'm the operator of its

1014
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: Like it feels like he got control and then realized like,

1015
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: oh ship, Like now I can make all this money

1016
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: off of her. I can keep her in my control,

1017
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: I can keep her working, and then I don't have

1018
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: to worry about anything. Because if he imagines, like even

1019
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: if he got if he lost control of it, he

1020
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be able to afford lawyers to keep fighting

1021
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: for this. So it's crazy, you know, it's crude. You

1022
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: pay for my lawyers to what here. But it's like,

1023
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure in his mind he can justify like from

1024
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: that one like breakdown that she had, Like that's very

1025
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: scary moment to have somebody who you love who is

1026
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: like out of control, And like I'm sure he's using

1027
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: that to like justify in his own mind, and like

1028
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: that's what his lawyers constantly are like coming back to.

1029
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: But it's just like somebody needs to intervene to, you know,

1030
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: like make it so he can't continue to conveniently just

1031
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: believe that he's like he is getting a percentage of

1032
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: all of like her tours and ship, so he's both

1033
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: her manager and like her legal guardian, which, like experts

1034
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: are like that is makes no fucking sense. And where's

1035
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: he doing this from a palatial estate, So that's where

1036
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: he used to be doing it from. So this is

1037
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: the last paragraph of this article. Mr Spears recently sold

1038
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: the house Ms Spears grew up in. He has been

1039
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: staying down a winding country road on the outskirts of

1040
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: town in an RV, parked at a warehouse that has

1041
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: stored the boxed up relics of his daughter's megawatt career. Okay,

1042
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: that's on him though. He could afford a house, but

1043
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: he's just like in a RV, like by this massive

1044
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: warehouse full of like Brittany memorabilia. It's just like, yo,

1045
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: sh it has gone. Yeah. That's the thing too, is

1046
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: like if you yeah, they could, but they could just

1047
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: as easily do that him. Yeah, if you're saying that

1048
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: it spawns off of one incident when she had one

1049
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, mental health crisis, and then he's you know,

1050
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: if he's an alcoholic and he had one time where

1051
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: he was you know, what's the word, like hitting rock

1052
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: bottom and they could have easily just as easily done

1053
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: that to him, but somehow he got out of it

1054
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: and he got the power and got to do this

1055
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: to her for life, almost like the lead. The system

1056
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: is misogynistic, and yeah it might be like that might

1057
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Speaker 1: be it's foundational to this place. Huh, just paternalistic. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of misogyny, let's talk about Karl Nassev coming out as

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Speaker 1: an active NFL player. This is probably the most accomplished

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Speaker 1: pro team sport athlete to have come out as a

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Speaker 1: gay man. While active. He's notched thirty seven starts as

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Speaker 1: like twenty point five career sacks, which is all important

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Speaker 1: just because like he a team is going to roster him,

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Speaker 1: whereas like in the past, an NBA team has been

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Speaker 1: like NBA teams have been able to be like, well,

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Speaker 1: Jason Collins is on the downside of his career, so

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Speaker 1: they like didn't sign him, or like Michael sam Michael

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Speaker 1: sam Right was a prospect who was the seventh round pick,

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Speaker 1: so they were like, hey, he wasn't good enough and

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Speaker 1: just cut him. This dude is like in just completed

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Speaker 1: the first year of a three or deal, so he's

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Speaker 1: like he's going to be in the mix for an

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Speaker 1: NFL team. And he was also like one of the

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Speaker 1: best college He led the nation in sex as a

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Speaker 1: college player, was a Big ten defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: which I think is like, again, it's weird to like

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Speaker 1: be listing off his stats in a story like this,

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Speaker 1: but I do think it's probably important to like the

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Speaker 1: sort of people who would be like wait, what to

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Speaker 1: like accept like, oh, ship, this is like one of

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Speaker 1: the best football players in the world. But I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just it's going to be fascinating and hopefully

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Speaker 1: empower support him. So the league is supporting him had

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Speaker 1: a nice thing to say, but I mean, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the sense of like will there be will they

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Speaker 1: really put things in place, like if people are trying

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Speaker 1: to you know, single him out or something, or there's

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Speaker 1: some kind of weird on field nonsense going on or harassment,

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Speaker 1: like what will they protect him? You know, will they

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Speaker 1: actually make that a thing to say we are completely

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Speaker 1: against any sort of homophobia in this league and like

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Speaker 1: we're done with it. That's how curious toe how that

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Speaker 1: plays out too. I mean that the the sport, the league,

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Speaker 1: the entire culture around the league is like fuel. It

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Speaker 1: is like the physical embodiment of toxic masculine idiot. It's

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Speaker 1: just like and all like the most notable commentary coming

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Speaker 1: from active n f NFL players to this point has

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Speaker 1: been just completely toxic homophobia, with players saying they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: accept a gate teammate and I don't know, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's just so massively important though,

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Speaker 1: for for this kind of representation in the NFL just

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Speaker 1: in general. And I think there's there's such a you know,

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Speaker 1: in that video, he said how how long he's been

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Speaker 1: dreading coming out and then he finally did, and I

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Speaker 1: I can. I can only imagine how many people will

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Speaker 1: look to him and you know, find the strength and

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Speaker 1: courage too. You know, it's it's much different coming out

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Speaker 1: now than it was twenty years ago, or should even

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Speaker 1: ten years ago. But you hope that this can actu

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Speaker 1: really really change the dynamics of sports where you know,

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Speaker 1: cis gendered men are competing and what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's hard to see because you can see,

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Speaker 1: like on the Twitter, all the toxic comments that come out,

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Speaker 1: like if ESPN does it, the jokes that are in there,

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Speaker 1: there's still just this this just fucked up homophobic blind

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Speaker 1: spot that people have. But yeah, you hope that these

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Speaker 1: like we can you know, this builds on things and

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Speaker 1: creates a much more accepting country and not being like

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Speaker 1: gay gay guys can't play sports. Yeah, what the funk

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Speaker 1: is this? Yeah? I think we're all hoping that this

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Speaker 1: starts like a flood of you know, statistically, there's many

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Speaker 1: many pro athletes who are closeted feeling like don't feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable like being their authentic selves. But my guess is

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Speaker 1: there will be like more of a wait and see

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Speaker 1: approach to see, like how he is greeted both by

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Speaker 1: the league and by the other players, which I think

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Speaker 1: just like further under lens the bravery of what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: And Warren Moon also said there that he had like

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Speaker 1: tweets like I'm really proud of Carl, like this is great,

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Speaker 1: and then he also like ended on to say, like

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Speaker 1: I played with several guys who never were comfortable to

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Speaker 1: come out, and they were great teammates. But it's just

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Speaker 1: sort of that was you know, it was a private thing,

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Speaker 1: and like you're to your point, that's he's not the

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Speaker 1: first and he won't be the last, but hoping to

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Speaker 1: create more of an environment of acceptance in general. But

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how NFL fans react to that

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Speaker 1: with their cool takes. Yeah, it's such a It's always

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Speaker 1: been such a strange thing to me. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: how sexuality would like why would that bother anyone? But

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Speaker 1: that's just you know, I don't I can't wrap my

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Speaker 1: brain around it, like I think, yeah, because there's there's

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Speaker 1: a certain group, there's a certain culture in this country

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Speaker 1: that it's like you express your masculinity through these like

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: agro sports, and that's how you validate your masculinity. And

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Speaker 1: then for someone to be homosexual also engaging and that, well,

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Speaker 1: then what does that do to your What is that

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01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: super fragile idea of what masculinity is? And I think

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01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: that's just what it's all going up against. But that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm so toxic. Yeah, long time coming though, absolutely. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good for him. It's brave, super brave Nicole. It has

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Speaker 1: been such a pleasure of having you on daily SI. Guys,

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Speaker 1: it's been so fun being here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? Oh? You

1156
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Speaker 1: can follow me on Twitter at Nicole Thurman and I

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Speaker 1: have two season my first name, uh and my Instagram

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Speaker 1: is the same at Nicole Thurman n I C C

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Speaker 1: O L E T h U R M A N nice.

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Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some of the work

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Speaker 1: of social media that you've been enjoying. Oh? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just saw some goofy tweet about red flags yesterday that

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Speaker 1: really made me laugh. Oh it says normalized leaving after

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Speaker 1: the first red flag. I won't do it, but you

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Speaker 1: guys should made me laugh. I just made me laugh,

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Speaker 1: real bad, real hard. Who is it her name is

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Speaker 1: oh it's not even like a real name at u

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Speaker 1: c h j n N. She tweeted that it was

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Speaker 1: very funny. Yeah. I responded the normalize leaving after the

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Speaker 1: first red flag with asking if that was about being

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Speaker 1: a Sixers fan. As soon as they say there's sixer span,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go. Yeah. That was alright, alright, sorry, neet

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: through it. Oh okay, okay, okay, but I'm a Sixers fan, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I knew what was going to happen all season, and

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Speaker 1: I just kept kept hoping against I say hopeful, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say positive. Miles, where can people find you? Oh man?

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray. Also check out fiance if you like weed

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Speaker 1: zero d Fiance a tweet that I like. I like

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Speaker 1: a couple. First one is from guest Carl Hess at

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Speaker 1: Carl Hess tweeted, he says, the best thing you can

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Speaker 1: see when you step into the party, and it's a

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Speaker 1: photo of a bunch of Papa's from Portos Bakery. Uh

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Speaker 1: and anybody who knows about portos, you know, or anybody

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Speaker 1: who likes that, you know, the the dish of those

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Speaker 1: fried potato balls. Oh, there's just something about it. You're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm amongst friends here and they know what the funk

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Speaker 1: they're doing. And one more is from this is Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Gonzalez at Nico Es Gonzalez. He's quote tweeting an image

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Speaker 1: where this other person said, what's going on here? Come on, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I need a laugh. And it's a photo of like

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Speaker 1: a cheetah with like their paw on a baby gazelle's

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Speaker 1: back and it looks like it's like like almost trying

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Speaker 1: to put its arm around this baby gazelle was like

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Speaker 1: shoulder and like, hey, come here, pal. And Nicholas Gonzalez tweeted, quote,

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Speaker 1: you don't need a union because we're a family here

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Speaker 1: killing it. I love that tweet I've been enjoying. Ashley

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Speaker 1: fine Brig tweeted, Kristen, cinema is a c I a op.

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Speaker 1: I've never believed anything more strongly, which I think it

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Speaker 1: might be true. Rody Gupta tweeted does my dog think

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Speaker 1: the TV is a window? And everything outside our house

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Speaker 1: is just insane? Um and Schae Serrano tweeted, Benny the

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Speaker 1: Jet is related to Dominic Toretto. Don't ask me to

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Speaker 1: explain how, just know that it's true. Jet. Oh I

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Speaker 1: thought it was Benny and the Jets, but Benny the Jet. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: footnotes where we link off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: we think you might want to go check out, Miles.

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Speaker 1: What song should people be listening to right now? This

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Speaker 1: is some like kind of low fi, like really nice

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Speaker 1: smooth R and B kind of vibes. This is an

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Speaker 1: She's coming out a straight out of the UK and

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Speaker 1: this track is called sync In and it's really dope

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Speaker 1: because I like the very sort of minimal production. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like she's kind of making everything on like a cassio,

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Speaker 1: keyboard or whatever. Like the beats and the sounds that

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Speaker 1: she uses, but her voice is very like haunting and

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Speaker 1: very rich. So I like the juxtaposition of those two things.

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Speaker 1: So this is like a nice little vibe track to

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Speaker 1: play around your house, you know, like some candles. It's

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