1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty forty five fifty. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 4: And the Kicks block Book, College Football World Study. Oh 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 4: my goodness, he's stumbled and football, the lateral turn, the 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: counter on the job. Don't you believe I'm not cap 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 4: them off the field tonight? 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: It's not the sage on the dog in the fight, It's. 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: The sage of the fight in the roll. 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 5: What's up, Degenerate Nation, Welcome to Big Bets on Campus Podcast. 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 5: I'm stucky in joining me today, Colin Wilson, my sidekick, 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 5: and of course our own college football inder, Brett McMurphy. 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: We are back. It is the twenty twenty two college 14 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: football Kickoff, so part one of two. I'll go over 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: a bit what we're gonna cover in today's episode and 16 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: the next. I'm excited to be back. This is the 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: fifth year with Action Network. Colin and I've been doing 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: this six year overall for the ogs that remember Degen 19 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: and Juice when we used to do that in the 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: summer of twenty seventeen. I appreciate all of you that 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: have been with us since the very beginning. I'm hyped. 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: August is almost here, college football is in the air. 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Let me start by introing Colin, what's going on, brother. 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: It's going to be back. It's going to be doing 25 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: this a six year with you. 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 6: It's just I'm so proud of how far we've come, 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 6: and it's great to have Brett in the fold. And 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 6: another season, hopefully you and I can nail it as always, 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 6: get another national championship future to the window. Hopefully Brett 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 6: here is going to drop knowledge all season and then 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 6: we'll be able to react and catch good tickets. 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: You're actually with Brett right now, go into some media days. 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: We're going to cover that in part two. Part one. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: This is kind of just high level stuff. We'll talk 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: national title futures, some Heisman stuff, but this is just 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: gonna be really high level, going over just okay, college 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: football landscape in part one, who's moving conferences this year? 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Next? 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: What does that mean? You know, we'll talk some heisman, 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: who can get to the College Football Playoff, things of 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: that nature. And then in the second part, which will 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: be released right after this, So go ahead if you're 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: listening to part one, Part two should be out as well. 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: We'll talk about some of you guys takeaways from the 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: media days that you've been to, what we can expect 46 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: from the PEC twelve on Friday. We'll talk returning production. 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: You know, just kind of summarize the highest and lowest teams, 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 3: biggest transfer portal names and teams, coaching carousel, both head 49 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: coaches and coordinators. Which teams might have a big either 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: positive or negative bump in that regard. So we'll get 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: to all of that. But let me intro mister McMurphy, 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: who I finally got to meet in person. I never 53 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: met him in person before when we all did a 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: a trip to Denver, which was a blast. I think 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: that was in an early June. What's going on, Brett? 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 7: Good? 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: Do you see you stuck? Good to talk to you again. 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: I survived Denver. I appreciate you not taking a lot 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: of photos that that meant a lot to me for 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: reasons we won't go into. But so pumped up about 61 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: the season. Colin and I had been on a World 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Win tour Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte. Now I'm head of LA 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: on Friday. That will complete the McMurphy slam of the 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: Power five Conference media days. But We're pumped to get 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: going for some actual football on the field in the 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: next month. 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to join you on a couple next year. 68 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: I just got back. We did Denver, did it stopped 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: in DC. I just got back from Vegas for my 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: birthday and I did some did a couple of national 71 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: parks with my wife, getting some quality timing before she 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: doesn't get any for six months. But I'll start with 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: a funny story. We were driving out of Zion National 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Park and we actually head of the Lake Power before 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: we were going to Vegas, and we had a rendered 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: rat four. We pull out and we need gas and 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: we finally get through the park. As I'm driving, I 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: see this little like outpost store and I'm like, oh, 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: there's there's some pumps to the left. Now it wasn't 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: like a gas station. These were ancient pumps, and I 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: was like, I think this is gas. So we pulled 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: into the outpost store, pull over to the to the 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: gas pumps. Says go pay inside. 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: So I go. 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Inside there and then they're like, yeah, just give we'll 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: hold a car. Just go out and pay, and then 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: you go out and fill up and come back in 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: and pay. So I go outside and my wife is 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: in there, just like buying shit. And I fill up 90 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: the tank and as I am putting the gas pump down, 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: I realized that I just filled the entire tank with 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: diesel fuel. And I stay to myself, Oh my god, 93 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: I know it's obviously really bad. Luckily I didn't start 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: the car. But like generally speaking, and you asked, any 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: like normal modern pump, you can't fit the diesel pump 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 3: into the gas tank, but this was this, This pump 97 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: was so old and there was only three things. There 98 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: was like a separate diesel one or it wasn't off 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: to the left. There was just three pumps and then 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: the all the way in the left one was the 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: diesel one. And I'm just so used to grabbing I 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: was green. I should have noticed, but it fit right in. 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: I filled it all the way up. I had to 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: go and talk about she thought I was just fucking 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: around and making a joke. And the lady at the 106 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: register's like, no, I can check to see what you 107 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: filled up. She's like, you filled up diesel. So we 108 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: had a call the closest towns I cannab Utah was 109 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: like an hour away. We had to call and get 110 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: a toe because you can't start and run the car 111 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: with I would have been buying a rental. I would 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: have had to have a good college football year this 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: year if I had to end up buying a RAV 114 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: four from a rental place, a Nebraska rav four. I 115 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: don't know what the sign is there, but so we 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: had to get a toe to the Ramseys. They were awesome. 117 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: They were so nice, probably the nicest mechanic shop I've 118 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: ever been doing a life. But they say gas getting expensive. 119 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: It costs me five hundred dollars to fill up the 120 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: tank because I had to get it trained and then refilled. 121 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 6: Taking a case for the state of Oregon, where it's 122 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 6: illegal to pump your own gas. 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: Right Jersey too, and my wife won't let me live 124 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: it down. We were walking by in Vegas. We're walking 125 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: by a diesel store. She's asking if I want to 126 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: go in there taking pictures. But hopefully that's one of 127 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: the bad beats we get out of the way in 128 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: the summer before the college football season. But before we 129 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: dive into everything, here quick message from our producer, the 130 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: beloved Matt Mitchell, who's kind of going to go over 131 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 3: what you can expect from a scheduling perspective throughout the 132 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: summer and then into this season. 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 7: Thank you Stucky, and welcome back everyone to our second 134 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 7: season right here on BBOC as we build up two 135 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 7: week zero, one month from today on August twenty seventh, 136 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 7: here is our BBOC schedule. First off, we'll have full 137 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 7: conference preview episodes for each of the group of five conferences, 138 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 7: led by our group of five deep dive tandem of 139 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 7: Mike Calbreys and Mike Ianello, and they'll be joined by 140 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 7: either Stucky, Colin or Brett for each of those episodes. 141 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 7: Those will start dropping later this week with the Sun Belt, 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 7: and then next week we'll have the Mountain West Conference 143 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 7: USA and the AAC and we'll wrap those up on Monday, 144 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 7: August eighth with an episode covering our beloved MAC. After that, 145 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 7: we'll begin our Power five conference previews with Stuffy and Collen. 146 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 7: The week of August eighth, we'll do the Big twelve 147 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 7: and the ACC the following week. The week of the fifteenth, 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 7: we'll have our usual two part SEC episode, followed by 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 7: the Big ten, and then last and certainly least as always, 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 7: we'll do the PAC twelve. 151 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: Oh No, we suck again. 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 7: The week of August twenty second, leading up to Week zero, 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 7: will drop a special episode summarizing our team's favorite future 154 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 7: plays across every conference, plus their Heisman Trophy picks, and 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 7: starting this year, with the help of our beloved insider 156 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 7: Brett McMurphy, we'll also have an episode announcing our first 157 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 7: annual Action Network pre season All American Team should be 158 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 7: a lot of fun, but rest assured during the majority 159 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 7: of the season, we'll still be dropping the same four 160 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 7: episodes every single week. Monday mornings will be our recap 161 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 7: episode featuring your deranged beat voicemails. Tuesday will be our 162 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 7: Sources edition with Collen and Brett discussing the future markets 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 7: and the biggest news items in college football. Midday Wednesdays 164 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 7: will be our Group of five Deep Dive with Calibres 165 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 7: and Ianelo, and Thursday night into Friday morning will be 166 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 7: our flagship college football betting previews with Ducky and Collen. 167 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 7: I personally thank you from the bottom of my withered 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 7: gambling heart for joining us for another season. Good luck 169 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 7: with all your bets, and remember to heed the advice 170 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 7: of television senator and Ohio State fan Roger Furlong before 171 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 7: the season kicks off. 172 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I think you might want to get yourself a helmet 173 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: and a bulletproof vest and an iron jockstrap because you're 174 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: gonna get your head shot, your back stabbed, and your 175 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: nuts danced on. 176 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: Have a good Monday. I appreciate you, Mat yees. So 177 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: we're gonna have a group of five the mics who 178 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: do a great job with that episode every week. Calin, 179 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: myself and Brett, as Matt alluded to, will be on 180 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: those episodes. Then Coln I will do the powerful I 181 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: probably I've reread on for like the big twelve episode 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: of a couple games. Probably talked to Brody. Then we'll 183 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: have a recap episode and then all of a sudden, 184 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: Week zero is going to be here. We got Vandy 185 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: Hawaii and we'll be right in right into it, and 186 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: then voicemails voice and we'll be back this year as always. 187 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: So I'm excited. I hope you're excited. Let's have a 188 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: big year. All right, let's kick things off, and I 189 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: guess a good place to start is the changing college 190 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: football landscape. And this is why it's so great to 191 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: have Bred here. I mean, because no one is more 192 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: in the no I guess I should start just for 193 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: this year. There are some changes that I'll just mentioned 194 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: for those not familiar. There's only eleven teams now in 195 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: conference to US today, no divisions old dominions Southern, Miss 196 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: and Marshall are gone. They have now gone to the 197 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: Sun Belt. James madison first year in FBS is also 198 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: now on the sun About fourteen teams in the Belt 199 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: this year. 200 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 7: Don't let the latest come between you and the Belt. 201 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: I went back and look, there was twelve teams that 202 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 3: were new to FBS between two thousand and eight and 203 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Three had win records, three went six and six, 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: six had losing records. Average wins about I think was 205 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: four point twenty five. In the Sun Belt there were five. 206 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: Five of those teams were from the Sun Belt and 207 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: joined in their first year. Two had winning seasons, two 208 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: had losing seasons, one went six and six. Barry Wide 209 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: SPECTRM Georgia State went I to twelve in the first year. 210 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: Georgia Southern went nine and three. Although I think James 211 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: Madison only has eleven games this year and they did 212 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: lose a lot new defensive coordinator. I believe in way 213 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: down there in the experienced chart, which we'll get to 214 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: as far as returning experience is concerned. So just get 215 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: that out of the way. There's some changes in conference, 216 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: and we have a new team this year. But more importantly, 217 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: we've had shocking college football news pretty much for like 218 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: two months straight. We saw the sec AD Oklahoma and 219 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: Texas to get to sixteen teams. I gotta ask Brett 220 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 3: if you think that's twenty twenty five's expectation with the 221 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: tron X, but I that Big ten then responded by 222 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: adding USC and UCLA. They are now at sixteen teams, 223 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: so it's like the Power two. So I have a 224 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: lot of questions here, Brett, you can fill us in. 225 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: But you know what's gonna happen with the top ACC teams. 226 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: This is gonna be an ACC PAC twelve merger. How 227 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: about Oregon Washington? Where does Notre Dame fit? There's a 228 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: Big twelve? Now are they going to look at some 229 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: of the PAC twelve schools to get to sixteen? Because 230 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: they did add BYU and the three best teams in 231 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: the AAC. So there's a lot going on, Brad. I'm 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 3: going to throw it to you. First of all, let's 233 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: start with Oklahoma, Texas. When what's the update on when 234 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: you think when you expect that to happen. 235 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Well, they have continually said they will not leave the 236 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: Big twelve early, so that means they will not join 237 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the SEC until the twenty twenty five season. Something still 238 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: could get done. However, with the granted rights for that 239 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: final year, the amount of money it would cost for 240 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: them to get out of the league, it looks like 241 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: they're going to stay put the next couple of years 242 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: before they go to the to the SEC. You've got 243 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: USC and UCLA on June thirtieth announced they're going to 244 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: the Big Ten. That's where Colin and I are currently 245 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: right now. It's Tuesday, so I want to let people 246 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: know and this is recorded because who knows, it may 247 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: change the second we get done recording. But I reported 248 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: earlier today that the Big Ten Commissioner, Kevin Warren, told 249 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: me that, you know, everyone knows they want Notre Dame. 250 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: But he also told me that there are quote a 251 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: handful of schools that would add value to his lead. Now, 252 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: he wouldn't go into specific schools, but I talked to 253 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: sources throughout the conference and the schools that are being 254 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: considered by the Big Ten are Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Cal, Miami, 255 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: and Florida State. What does that mean? That means the 256 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Big Ten is not done expanding. A source told me 257 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: it could happen in two days, it could happened in 258 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: two months, it could happen in two years. They're not 259 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: standing pat obviously, Notre Dames. They're number one target, USC 260 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: and UCLA would join in twenty twenty four, depending on 261 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: when they could add some or all of these schools 262 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: would on when they could join. Obviously, Florida and Florida State. 263 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: Miami are the most excuse me, the least likely because 264 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: they have their granted rights in the ACC through twenty 265 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: thirty six. But if somehow, some way the ACC schools 266 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: can get out of that before twenty thirty six, the 267 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: Big Ten would love to have two schools in the 268 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: state of Florida. So if that happens, it's it's Domino. 269 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: So what happens next the Big twelve If those schools 270 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: leave the PAC twelve. The Big twelve has been talking 271 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: with no surprise here Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah. 272 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: So if Oregon, Washington, Cal, and Stanford are gone from 273 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve or even just Oregon and Washington. Then 274 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: I think Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah go to 275 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. Then if that happens, you could be 276 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: down to four power conferences instead of five. I ask 277 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Warren that he said, this is basically a five 278 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: year transition period with everything going on, the market will 279 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: dictate how many any power leagues we end up with. 280 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I said, will it be two, will it be three? 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Will be four? He goes, we really don't know. 282 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: I think we end up with four. 283 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: I think the Big twelve will get those other PAC 284 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: twelve schools and then basically you've only got Oregon State 285 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: in Washington State left in the PAC twelve there will 286 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: be no conference, so they would probably have to go 287 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: join the Mountain West, which sucks if you know you're 288 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: an Oregon State or Washington State fan. And I think 289 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the SEC stays at sixteen. I think that the schools 290 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the SEC wants are in the ACC and they can't 291 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: get those supposedly until twenty thirty six or so. Their 292 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: number one target would be North Carolina. Why North Carolina 293 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: because the SEC is not in that state, so it's 294 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: a brand new market. They also would like somebody from Virginia, 295 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: whether it's Virginia Virginia Tech. Then I think they would 296 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: look at a Clemson of Florida State and Miami something 297 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: along those lines. So sucky. As far as this year, 298 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you nailed the Conference USA and the Sun 299 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Belt are the only only conferences in impacted. Next year, 300 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: we've got UCF, Houston, BYU and Cincinnati going to the 301 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: Big Twelve. We've got six schools going from Conference USA 302 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: to the America. We've got Conference USA adding Liberty and 303 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: some FCS schools. And then in twenty twenty four USC 304 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and UCLA and then twenty twenty five Oklahoma Texas and 305 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: then I think by then we'll see these Pac twelve 306 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: schools go to the Big Ten. And I hate to 307 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: say this because it sucks for college football, but I 308 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: think if the Big Ten does get at least two 309 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Pac twelve schools, that the Pac twelve will not exist 310 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: in the next six years. 311 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating stuff. I mean the Big Twelve also, 312 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: that's what I think it's headed too. I think we're 313 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: definitely gonna have three power conferences, although the Big Twelve 314 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: they can't lose like Kansas, TCU and Westviginia. There's rumors 315 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: that those schools have been going you know, talking elsewhere 316 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: other so you can't lose them, but you've added some 317 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: and then you can add some of these PAC twelve teams. 318 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: Can the ACC keep up? Are they going to lose teams? 319 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: They do have that media contract which makes it a 320 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: little tougher, but can can they keep up and be 321 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: that fourth power conference team? Uh? It's going to be 322 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: fascinating in the Notre Dame, I mean Notre Dame also 323 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: could make sense of the ACC, right, I mean they 324 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: were technically in the ACC for a year. 325 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: They get they go to the Big Ten, they make 326 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: a hundred millionaires they're in the ACC, they make thirty 327 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: or forty millionaire here. So I know you're not a 328 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: mass major, but what would you do you'd go to 329 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: the Big ten? 330 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they would. Would they have to give up? 331 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: How does that work with like their rights? Like how 332 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: much like you know, with their you know, they have 333 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: exclusive NBC stuff and all that. They have to give 334 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: that up or share it. 335 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Or they're currently renegotiating their NBC deal. So the thinking is, 336 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: if NBC gives them up boards of seventy five million. 337 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Then they would stay in independent because they're in the 338 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: ballpark with the Big Ten and the SEC with those 339 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: schools are making. However, if NBC can get up to 340 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: that number, Notre Dame may decide their best avenues is 341 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: to join a conference and they would go with the 342 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Big Ten. If they go with the ACC, they're not 343 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: going to make the nude. Now, Notre Dame's never going 344 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: to save out money, and it isn't to an extent, 345 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: but still it's it's one A, it's money, and it's 346 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: one B it's access to the playoff. And we don't 347 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in the future of the playoff. 348 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: And Kevin Warren talked about this today, Colin, and I 349 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: heard Greg Sankee talk about it last week in Atlanta. 350 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: We don't know what the new college football playoff formlat 351 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: is going to look like. You know, there's talk eight teams. 352 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: Well, they hitting sixteen sixteen. 353 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Leach may get his wish. He wants 354 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: sixty four teams. I asked him that Atlanta. I said, Mike, 355 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: with all this conference realignment, are you optimistic you're going 356 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: to have your sixty four team playoff, and in classic 357 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: Mike Leach style, he said, yeah, that'll be a conference playoff, 358 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. 359 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the sixteen team playoff. Look, I'm fine with it. 360 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 3: I think eight would have been perfect before with the 361 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 3: five power conferences you get, you know, your group of 362 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 3: five and then two wildcards. If there's more football and 363 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: more playoffs. So BI, I don't really care. I just 364 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: want I just want an emmitted playoffs. Especially we're changing 365 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: everything anyway, so why not change this in the future. 366 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: But I believe they've already verified the college wall cloff 367 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: will remain it four teams through twenty twenty five, and 368 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: as we mentioned, there's some rumors that it might go 369 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: to sixteen thereafter. If you look back, there's been eight 370 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: college for wall ploffs. There's only thirteen teams that have 371 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: participated in those eight college football playoffs. Colin, let me 372 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: bring you in here because a lot of the you 373 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: know there were already we're already seeing in college basketball, 374 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: colleg football, these teams change conferences all the time. You've 375 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: been like Southwest Conference sec' you've seen it before as 376 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 3: a fan, like just a purely Arkansas fan because from 377 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: a betting perspective, it's like, all right, the teams are 378 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: the teams. We got to figure ot power right, and 379 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: then we figure out about who kept. Just give me 380 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: college football. But from as a fan perspective, do you care? 381 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: Are you excited that there's just you're gonna have Oklahoma 382 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: and Texas in the conference? 383 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 6: Is it just? 384 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: I don't care. Just tell me Arkansas is going to 385 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: be in I don't care about the tradition and rivalries. 386 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: And but I'll ask you next with Oklahoma Oklahoma State. 387 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: But what are your thoughts there to. 388 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, when Arkansas left the Southwest Conference, I mean it 389 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 6: was an Arkansas Texas show, especially in basketball every single season, 390 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 6: mostly in football every season. 391 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: That's that was it. 392 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 6: That was one two Arkansas Texas. And when we left 393 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 6: that rivalry for rank Royles would say, you know, we 394 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 6: are leaving because of you know, TV rights. We're leaving 395 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 6: because it's going to help recruiting. We can recruit Florida 396 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 6: because we're already recruiting Texas. But let's be honest. The 397 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 6: move was made because of money. South Carolina Arkansas went 398 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 6: into the SEC in nineteen ninety two because of money. 399 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 6: It was not a geographical fit. I mean, it's a 400 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: it's an hour and a half drive from Fable to 401 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: still Water. 402 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: It's a it's a. 403 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 6: Three and a half hour drive to Norman. It made 404 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 6: no sense. What's clever to put Arkansas in that league? 405 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 6: And that's just the world that we're going to have 406 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 6: to live in now. Right, We're going to pack twelve 407 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 6: after dark and it's going to be Rutgers playing at Oregon, right, 408 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 6: I mean, we're we're going to be living in this 409 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 6: really strange world. For me, I'm extremely happy that Arkansas 410 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 6: is going to be in a pod, an SEC pod 411 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 6: that includes Oklahoma and Texas. For me, I can start 412 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 6: driving into away games. So I think there's pluses and minuses. 413 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: As a fan, I think if you like Notre Dame 414 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 6: and Day ninety ninety nine to Peacock, you might end 415 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 6: up paying fourteen ninety nine to Peacock per month because 416 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 6: they have to get that money. That's seventy five million 417 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 6: that Brett was talking about. I think as a gambler. 418 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 6: Let me end on this as a gambler. Odds makers 419 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 6: are not keeping up with this stuff as fast as 420 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 6: bread is. And what I mean by that is they 421 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 6: wiped away divisions in the PAC twelve and the odds 422 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 6: did not move at all. And so you look at 423 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 6: the schedules like North South, certain teams play each other, 424 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 6: the certain don't. And you look at it and you say, yeah, 425 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 6: Utah and USC play each other. But they can have 426 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 6: a rematch of the pactual championship game, just like what 427 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 6: we had during the pandemic season. Of course, that's when 428 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 6: they wouldn't let Colorado get in because of divisions, right, 429 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 6: so they the oddsmakers did not move their lines whatsoever, 430 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 6: and it was just going to be the top two teams. Now, 431 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 6: no other divisions have been wiped that we know of 432 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 6: this year, but next year the Mountain West gets their 433 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 6: divisions wipe. So I would say, as a gambler, just 434 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 6: make a little. 435 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: Confidence to usay, there's no divisions just because teams left, 436 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 3: so it's just eleven teams whoever wins it. 437 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 6: By default, they had to by default, they had to 438 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 6: go to no divisions. But next year Mountain West loses 439 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 6: their divisions should be the same set of teams. So 440 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 6: keep a you know, just keep a little asterisk or 441 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 6: a calendar reminder next year when you start gambling after 442 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 6: March madness on college football. The Mountain West doesn't have 443 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 6: any divisions and pay attention to those schedules because it 444 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 6: doesn't matter anymore about winning your division and meeting each 445 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 6: other in the conference championship game. But that's where I 446 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 6: stand as a fan and as a gambler. 447 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't have a team. I just 448 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: have a team of who I my any future or 449 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: the team I bet on that day. I mean I 450 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: went to GW which doesn't have a football team. I 451 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: just hope that we can keep some of the rivalries. 452 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to be possible, but like, 453 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: look at Clemson South Carolina right like they play each 454 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: other at the end of the year. I live in Kentucky. Actually, 455 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: I should say I rout for Kentucky now with the 456 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: mafia and and for the bar here before she kills me. 457 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 6: Did Nebraska know you kind of set this though? I mean, 458 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 6: wasn't that one of the longest rivalries in the history 459 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 6: of Goose football stops. 460 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: Playing because of you know, the Big twelve. Nebraska leaves 461 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: for the Big Ten. 462 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 6: Shout out to better call Saul for all that talk 463 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 6: better on Nebraska football last night, But I we cast. 464 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: Your tickets on Kyle mentioning better call Saul on the 465 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: first episode of the year. We still are waiting on 466 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: the Arkansas. We already talked about Arkansas football Arkansas. 467 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: I mean it's already happening, right that the rivalries are 468 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 6: already disappearing, stuck. 469 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just hope that there's a way Okaho Olaoma State, Brett, 470 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: do you care about that rivalry? Is that what something 471 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: that you're you're going to be upset about if that 472 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: doesn't persist? 473 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 474 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: I do. 475 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm in Oklahoma State alum, and I've 476 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: talked two people at Oklahoma State. Hig have the food 477 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: chain there, obviously, know a lot of a lot of 478 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: people that went to school there, And it seems like, 479 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, because of hurt feelings, Oklahoma State doesn't want 480 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: to play Oklahoma. But I think if you take a 481 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: step back, and it's hard, but take yourself out of 482 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: the equation, should Oklaoma State continue to play Oklahoma? 483 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 484 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're an Oklahoma State fan, do you 485 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: want to rather would you rather see Oklahoma come in 486 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: every other year or Tulsa in Central Michigan. I mean, 487 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a no brainer. And also, oh, by the way, 488 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: you're going to get more revenue playing Oklahoma. You're going 489 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: to get a better TV slot, You're going to sell 490 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: more tickets, et cetera, et cetera. But kind of what 491 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: Colin alluded to. Since all these conference realignments have happened, 492 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: the school that has left the conference and the teams 493 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: run the same conference, those teams had stopped playing Texas, 494 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: A and M and Texas. Although now they'll be back 495 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: together in the same conference, they'll have to play Kansas 496 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: and Missouri. That's a huge rivalry. They won't play each 497 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: other anymore football because of that. Ol o'clumb State could 498 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: be another possibility. The backyard brawl is finally coming back. 499 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: Colin and I talked to Pat and Mardoozy about that. 500 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: Eight of eleven years, they're gonna play each other, right, 501 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: eight of the next eleven. 502 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: But initially it took a while and then finally they 503 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: figured out, look, these teams need to play. It means more. 504 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: So. 505 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you know, I think what Kevin Warren 506 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: said today, Basically it's been hinted and suggested by a 507 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of people, but he just came out and said 508 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: it as basically college athletics as a business, and we're 509 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna do what's best for the Big Ten Conference. The 510 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: SEC is gonna do what's best in them, and at 511 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, we're gonna end up. One 512 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: coach told me today, we know what's gonna happen. We're 513 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: gonna have We're gonna have a Big Ten with twenty 514 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: or more teams. We're gonna have an SEC with twenty 515 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: or more teams. 516 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 7: Uh. 517 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: The winners will one will be on Fox, one will 518 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: be on ESPN. The winners will play in a college 519 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: version of Super Bowl, and the teams with six wins 520 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: will go play in a Tampa Bawl, and teams with 521 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: seven wins of go playing in Orlando Bowl. And that's 522 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: going to be college football in five or six years. 523 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: And because of that, and it sucks, because we're going 524 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: to lose a lot of these rivalries that we've grown 525 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: up watching. They won't exist anymore because schedules won't allow 526 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: those games to play. 527 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 6: And what's interesting about brettis thing is that the SEC 528 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 6: did not sound like any of the coaches did not 529 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 6: sound like they want to give up ten Horn Weekend. 530 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: You all don't remember the Georgia Southern game. 531 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 6: Do you They run through our ass like shit through 532 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 6: a ten horn man and we could not stop them. 533 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 6: Those games against the Citadel, those games against FCS, they 534 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 6: need that on the schedule. They they all the SEC 535 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 6: coaches talk about how brutal it is to play in 536 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 6: the conference and they have to have, you know, a 537 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 6: couple of weekends where they play out corn and so 538 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: you know, with this new model that we're going to, 539 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 6: it's not going to be twelve weeks of you know, 540 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 6: back to back of Clemson'bama Georgia, Like that's just impossible. 541 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 6: So I'm interested to see what they do from a 542 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 6: scheduling standpoint, ucky from a conference championship, are those even 543 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 6: gonna exist anymore? Or are they just gonna roll eight 544 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 6: or sixteen teams into a playoff and say there's no 545 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 6: such thing as an SEC champion anymore. I don't know 546 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 6: how you determine that with twenty teams. 547 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Yes, Yeah, that's a good question. 548 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: Well that's that book. This is all stuff in the future. 549 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: It's really interesting. But that's probably the last time we'll 550 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: spend uh any real time on the future beyond this 551 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: year because betting and show and Betty, you gotta talk 552 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: about this year. We have a lot to get to 553 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: do this year. 554 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Ten championship. 555 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: You heard your. 556 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: Get your futures in early. All right, let's well, just 557 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: let's tak up. Take a look at the lay of 558 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: the land for this year. And the first thing that 559 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: jumps out to me, you know when I'm I'm almost 560 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: done all of my preseason work, I have three MAC 561 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: teams left and then I gotta I gotta finish my 562 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: MAC manifesto. I do one hundred and twenty eight teams. 563 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 3: I got three MAC teams left to finalize, like just 564 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: all the cleanup work. And I think this is obvious 565 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: to everyone, but it looks like to me that there's 566 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 3: two clear teams that are head and shoulders. And we've 567 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: seen some years like this in the past. Alabama and 568 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: Ohio State to me, are clearly head and ches above 569 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: the rest of If you look at the odds, the 570 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: Obama's around two to one one seventy five to win 571 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: the national title. It's the revenge tour for Sabing from 572 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: last year. We know that's scary. They tend to win 573 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: like almost every other year on the dock, I think 574 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: they won at six in the past twelve, Ohio State 575 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 3: three to one, and then you know you have Georgia 576 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: four to one, which I think is way too low. 577 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: They lost fifteen guys to the NFL Draft, and but 578 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: you know, the market's still getting them respect still a 579 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: very talented team. And then there's a drop off to 580 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: Clemson ten to one. So like usually, you know, some years, 581 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: we have three or four teams that you're like, okay, 582 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: these are I think these four teams are going to 583 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: go to the College will Playoff. But look, Clemson, there's 584 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: questions at quarterback. They lose both coordinators. We saw them 585 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: have you know, semi down year compared to Clemson in 586 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: the past, and then Georgia lost all that talent from 587 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: the National championship team. After that, I mean, the drop 588 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: off is twenty to one. So there's two clear teams here, 589 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: Alabama Ohio State. I think it's pretty you know, safe 590 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: assumption without catastrophic injuries or crazy up. So those two 591 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: teams are gonna be in the College for the playoff. 592 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: That's what you're gonna get from Clemson. They do host 593 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: NC State if they win the ACC or are they 594 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: going there? There's the door open for some college football 595 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: playoff spots beyond Alabama and Ohio State. Colin I'll start 596 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: with you, what do you see from a future's perspective 597 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: for the national title? 598 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. Alabama and Ohio 599 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 6: State are gonna win the national championship game. While you 600 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 6: got up and went to the airport after the Georgia 601 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 6: Alabama national chair from the Westgate, I was out on 602 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 6: the trail in eight to one that a fandue will 603 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 6: put out. 604 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: For Ohio State. So I was able to get Someney 605 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: down on that. 606 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: I'm happy about that, but stucky, I mean, when we're 607 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: trying to all these other two spots, I look around. 608 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 6: I went to ACC media Days last week with one agenda, 609 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 6: get as close as I can Djuengliy and figure out 610 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 6: if this kid has got what it takes to lead Clemson. 611 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 6: Because it was just based on defense, we could just 612 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 6: write Clemson in Clemson would be there that this defensive 613 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 6: line is going to rival the twenty eight defensive line, 614 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 6: the twenty eighteen I should say twenty eighteen defensive line 615 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: possibly one of the best defenses in college football. 616 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: Ever, so Clemson is there. 617 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 6: From a defensive perspective with DJ, there's two big takeaways. 618 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 6: He's lost a lot of weight, and without throwing shade 619 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 6: to Kobe Pace or Will Shipley, he essentially said Travis 620 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 6: etm is the greatest weapon that ever existed in college football. 621 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 6: And of course he's not in college football anymore so, 622 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 6: right so DJ is also My second takeaway from that 623 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 6: was DJ's an extremely sensitive kid. He hears all of 624 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 6: us talking, he reads all of us writing, and I'm 625 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 6: just not sure that that is going to be stable 626 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 6: enough for to trust to put any money on him 627 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 6: to make the playoff, let alone wimin the ACC. So 628 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 6: I think the question is is which one loss team 629 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 6: is going to come out of ACC and challenge to 630 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 6: get in there. But I do have full confidence that 631 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 6: a one loss team will come out of the ACC 632 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 6: and fill it. And I feel even more confident that 633 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 6: team's not going to be a Clemson. 634 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a Trevor Lawrence scenario. And they turned to 635 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: the Klubnik, who's like, was the number I think the 636 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: number one overall recruit is true freshman. Maybe he's the answer. 637 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: But the other thing you have to keep in mind 638 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: with Clemson, I don't know if they're kind of falling 639 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: behind Dabo. I don't know why he's still coaching. By 640 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: the way, he said he was going to retire if 641 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: there was ever tires who ever paid, So I thought 642 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: you were a man of your word. 643 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: Now there you go, a great conversation. 644 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: I'd like some time out. I'd like to taking nap. 645 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: But Number one, they've had coordinator continuity, something that Alabama 646 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: hasn't had for years. And you know Alabama's had to 647 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: deal with that, and we've seen some years where you know, 648 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: album has to adjust. This is the first year with 649 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: Clemson they lose two premier coordinators who are now coaches 650 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: in FBS. How does that impact them? And Clemson's not 651 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: really hitting the transfer portal? But who did they bring 652 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: in from the They brought Hunter Johnson, like the worst 653 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: quarter they brought him back. That's very on brand for Clemson. 654 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: He was at Clemson and he went to Northwestern. They 655 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: brought him back. It'll be interesting to see what happens 656 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: at the quarterback position at Clemson. The good news is 657 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: they do host nc State. Depending on how those teams look, 658 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: cly seven to ten point favorites and that could go 659 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: a long way in determining who wins the ACC. But 660 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: we'll talk more about that on our ACC preview. If 661 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: you had a guest right now, do you even have 662 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: who's the fourth Like, let's say the one loss ACC team? 663 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: Is it from the Pac twelve? Is it the Big 664 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 3: Do see someone emerging from the Big twelve? Is it 665 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 3: two SEC teams? 666 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 6: If you give me about ten beers, you could convince 667 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 6: me that a one lost Pack twelve team is going 668 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 6: to make it into the playoff? And how many times 669 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 6: have I sat here and said this is the year 670 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 6: that Utah is gonna finally make it. 671 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 7: Hey, Colin, it's Matt. I can answer that shitload of times. 672 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 6: Utah has been at the door knocking forever, and then 673 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 6: they shoot themselves in the foot. Every single Pack twelve 674 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 6: team that is one loss and goes into the Packworve 675 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 6: Championship game keeps themselves from getting into the playoffs ever 676 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 6: since Washington was there in twenty sixteen, didn't cover the 677 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 6: spread against Alabama. The Pac twelve just somehow finds a 678 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 6: way to keep themselves out. Utah, and my opinion, is 679 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 6: the best team. We will break that down in their 680 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 6: own conference preview, but can Utah get to that finish 681 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 6: line with just one loss? 682 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: I think they. 683 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 6: Can, but I haven't put any coin on it. I'll 684 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 6: put coin down on them to win the conference. Do 685 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 6: me to put coin down? And then making the playoff 686 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 6: that's a whole different story. 687 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Did you say, Ute? 688 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeahute? If you think they could run that will have 689 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: one loss, maybe you buy them after Sorry to bring 690 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: the sore subject up. If they lose Week one at Florida, 691 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: I think they're what a field goal underdog if they 692 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: lose that game. Reminiscent of I hit Ohio State fifty 693 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: to one when they won it all but seven eight 694 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: years ago, after they lost to Vat Tech early in 695 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 3: the season and then they ended up getting in over TCU. 696 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: Much of the seagraant of Colin who had tc at 697 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: like two hundred and fifty to one during the season 698 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: and then Ohio State ended up winning it all. Maybe 699 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 3: that's a route because yeah, I think that maybe during 700 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: the season and someone loses a team a game early 701 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: because of this lack of we don't really know the 702 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: third and fourth teams that you know, one of these 703 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: teams that's in the mix, they lose a game early, 704 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: you might be able to get some value on them 705 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: in the futures market by taking a stab on them 706 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: once they're odds plumbing after a loss. 707 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 6: Two teams that fit that, Bill Stucker Oregon. Oregon's playing 708 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: Georgia right off the bat, and then Texas is going 709 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 6: to play Alabama in week two. I'm not saying that 710 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 6: either Oregon or Texas can run the table after those backs. 711 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 6: Back your eyes on that, all right, That's all I'm saying. 712 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: We were in Dallas at Big twelve media days and 713 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Colin went sat down in front of Sarkesian's media availability. 714 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: I think he was there like an hour before sark 715 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: got there. He got front row center. Collin's eyes so 716 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: I've never seen his eyes glaze over like this when 717 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: he was looking at Sark. It was, it was, it 718 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: was just magical. He just had to be there. So 719 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: don't be surprised by Collins left for the long one. 720 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell, you the love boat music. 721 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: Hello, exciting and. 722 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: Coma boll. 723 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: We're expecting. 724 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 6: No, all I did was sit down and I asked 725 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 6: sark about his twelve. 726 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, will you marry me? Are you gonna run more 727 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: tight end sets? 728 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 6: Tell me about you a little Bildings lead transferring and 729 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 6: Sark was tired of talking about conference re alignment. 730 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: He wanted to talk football, So I. 731 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 6: Would say that, yeah, there's the beginning of something special there. 732 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: Between me and coach Sark. 733 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: You still follow you on Twitter? 734 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: Yes? Nice? Yeah? 735 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 3: Would you have anything on the cult twere above? 736 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: I think George's third best team. I know they lost 737 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: a ton on defense. Like said you, they're going to 738 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: be favored in every day. 739 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a really favorable schedule for an SEC team. 740 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: They're going to be Look twelve and one. Georgia that 741 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: loses to ALAM in the SEC title game is in 742 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. My four team, I'm taking a wideness, 743 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: give me the fighting Mario Gristballs and Miami. 744 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 7: So you did decide to get rid of the turnover chain, 745 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 7: according to your conversation with the Action Network. 746 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 3: What led to that decision? Because I know it was 747 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: a fan favorite. 748 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: We're just focused on other stuff. 749 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 6: We're focused on technique, fundamentals, toughness, finish, academics, community. 750 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: I know they have to play at A and M. 751 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: I know they have to play at Clemson. I think 752 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: the I think the accs up for grabs in c 753 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: States getting a lot of love. They're kind of a 754 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: dark horse favorite. But talking with people in Charlotte, calling 755 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: to talk to a lot of these folks, you kind 756 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: of get the vibe where they're kind of not feeling 757 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: the pressure, but they realize the expectations put on them. 758 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: They've never had these types of expectations before. I think 759 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: somebody on our pod that has a power rating may 760 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: have him ranked fourth in the country. I don't want 761 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: to say what his name is, but his initial Colin Wilson. 762 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't think against the state's fourth best team in 763 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: the country. 764 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: I think State last year, who I had at the top. 765 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: I think the back twelve beats up on each other. 766 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't think the Big twelve champion is going to 767 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: be in the playoff by a matter of elimination. I'm 768 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: going to take a flyer with Miami to get that 769 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: four spot. 770 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: It's so wide. 771 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: Open you could pick any team for that four spot. 772 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you. There's not only a top two. 773 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: There's a top two plus Georgia, and then you fall 774 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: off a cliff and then you could name twenty teams 775 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: and have as good as shot to get to the playoff. 776 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: Is any in the group. 777 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 6: I got Tyler Van Dyke like one on one, and 778 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 6: first off, that guy's a dude, and he said he 779 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 6: was talking about how Miami is now taking this seriously. Listen, 780 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 6: I learned a lot from Deary King. But no one 781 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 6: was going to class, no one was showing up on time, 782 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 6: and it was just a very diganized program last year. 783 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 6: Now everybody's show up to class, everybody's showing up on time, 784 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 6: and we have one vision. My problem is is his 785 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 6: comments about the offensive line about how they're gonna move 786 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 6: the pocket a lot, They're gonna have a lot of 787 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 6: pulling guards and pulling tackles, and that just tells me 788 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 6: that you are avoiding just lining up and beating the 789 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 6: hell out of people right in front of you. So 790 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 6: I understand the team behind Miami, but Crystal Ball doesn't 791 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 6: have his guys in there yet. 792 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: Brat my one point, Georgia, Yeah, I mean Georgia might 793 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 3: be the third best team. But I don't necessarily disagree 794 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: with you, but I do think that there's a significant 795 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: drop off from one too. But I just think that 796 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 3: I think that Georgia is gonna be after all that 797 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: they lost. I think that they're going to slip up 798 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: at some point in their schedule. It could be at 799 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: South Carolina Week three, like there's gonna be. It could 800 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 3: be at Kentucky or at Miss State. I know their 801 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: schedule is very favorable. If you look like you don't, 802 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: you're not gonna see at Texas A and M or 803 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 3: Alabama on there. But I think they're gonna slip up, 804 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: and then if they win their division, you want that 805 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: revenge spot against the Alabama team that I think is 806 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 3: significantly better than this year. Then they're gonna have two losses, 807 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 3: so I did. That's why I don't think Gorge is 808 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: getting too the college to a playoff, and I wouldn't 809 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: be shocked to Jordia loses two games during that season. 810 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: That that's South Carolina game just is. If they don't 811 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: have if they're still trying to figure some things out, 812 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 3: that's a weird things can happen there, especially if Spencer 813 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: Rattler has figured some things out. 814 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: It's a Rattler against Georgia's defense. 815 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 3: Look, George's defense lost about nine NFL guys. I don't 816 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: think there could be some the same South Carolina team 817 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 3: that beat Georgia in Week I think three or four 818 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: is twenty four point underdogs in Athens twenty nineteen. They 819 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 3: won a double overtime in Athens twenty to seventeen, twenty 820 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: point underdogs. 821 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 6: I'm gonna set an over under of Week zero when 822 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 6: Stucky changes his mind out of South Carolina and flips 823 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 6: into Kentucky, the team that I think is the true 824 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 6: dark course in that division. 825 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: Now I'm low on Kentucky. I'm gonna we'll get to 826 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: their SEC preview. 827 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: It's wild that's deer Razorbacks. 828 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Bulldogs have a Mitssissippi stated is 829 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: a better chance. Michael Leach third year, third spring. Go 830 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 3: look at Mike Leave's third years at every stop, He's 831 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: one at least nine games every time. It's all about 832 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: timing with that offense. They have everyone back with either 833 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: one of the most experienced teams in the country or 834 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: I know that. So that Georgia game in between a 835 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 3: Kentucky and Tennessee, it's that's gonna be a tricky trip 836 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: down to cow Bell Town. But by the way, you 837 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 3: mentioned m C State and I said that remind me 838 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: of Iowa State Week one. Oh boy, don't be shocked 839 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 3: when East Carolina upsets NC State in Greenville, nasty rivalry. 840 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: Go look at the history of NC State East Carolina 841 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: over the past twenty years. They've played for decades when 842 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 3: they were only playing Raleigh. The home team dominates that series. 843 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: That's good. That building is gonna be electric. Maybe Hunter 844 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: Allers will forget that it's not November, but that East 845 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 3: Carolina team is sneaky. NC State all the expectations I 846 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 3: could see them go. I can see them dropping that game. 847 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: I've left from some good friends in roy. They don't 848 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 3: want to hear that now, but I promise you when 849 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: they go to sleep at night, and especially as that 850 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 3: game nears, they're nervous about that game, I promise you. 851 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: All right, before we wrap up week one, excuse me 852 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: part one. As I mentioned before Part two, we'll talk 853 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 3: coaching changes, coordinator changes, impact, transfers, experience, returning experience, and 854 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: then we'll get some some of your guys I take 855 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: away from some of the media days you've been to. 856 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 3: But let's close up with with some Heisman talk. If 857 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: you look at the Heisman hunts, get the team's going 858 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 3: to be some of the national title you said Bam 859 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: in Ohio, stay clear favorites for the top six favorites 860 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 3: for the Heisman are your Albama or Ohio State players. C. J. 861 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: Stroud is the favorite plus two to twenty five. Brace 862 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 3: Young plus three fifty Caleb Williams Ohi Oklahoma transfer out 863 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 3: at USC seven to one, b Jon Robinson and Will 864 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 3: Anderson twenty to one, the Jigubo twenty five twenty five 865 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: to one. So for the top six BAM Ohio State obviously, 866 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 3: Bryce Young won it last year. Only once has someone 867 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: won the Heisman in back to back. Here's it's Archie Manning, 868 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 3: Archie Griffin. 869 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 870 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 3: And you know there's a defender in there. There's some 871 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 3: wide receivers. There's only been two non quarterbacks that have 872 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: won it in the last twelve years, Williams for Alabama 873 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: recently and then back in two thousand and nine, Mark 874 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 3: Ingram won it as a running back. And there's only 875 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: one defender has ever won the Heisman, Charles Woodson. But 876 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 3: you could argue he wasn't the true defender. You've play 877 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: on special teams and dabbled in some offense too, so 878 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: like a true pure defender has never won the Heisman. 879 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 3: So I mean, I I have trouble getting behind Will Anderson. 880 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: I have twenty one for a defender I can for Collin. 881 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: You what you think there's gonna be Bryce Young fatigue, 882 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 3: which is one of the reasons why it's so hard 883 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 3: to win isisen back to back he's And another is 884 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: like the player might be gone to the NFL hours graduated. 885 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: But do you think there's Young fatigue? Do you have 886 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 3: a name or someone you're interested in for the Heisman? 887 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, the people that are talking about Bryce Young fatigue 888 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 6: also the ones that are promoting c. J. 889 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: Stroud. Now, before I get into. 890 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 3: Who I should mention, we are Heisman voters too, so 891 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 3: we will have. 892 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 6: Yeah of us are Yeah, the three of us are 893 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 6: Heisman voters. And now and we we joined this exclusive club. 894 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 6: And to let you give you some insight about what 895 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 6: I heard of media days, this is my fourth Power 896 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 6: five conference. 897 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: Media day is to go to UH. 898 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 6: I've heard out of numerous numerous big time reporters, out 899 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 6: of other uh you know, other places like I mean, 900 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 6: just for instance, an hour ago, Dennis Dodd. 901 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: All he could talk about was how. 902 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 6: Will Anderson got screwed because Aiden Hutchson's vot number two 903 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 6: and Will Anderson didn't even make a trip to New York. 904 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 6: I've heard that every single place I've gone. Do I 905 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 6: think Will Anderson is a good bet to win the Heisman? No, 906 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 6: if you give me a prop in the market that 907 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 6: Will Anderson's gonna finish second, I would hammer that because 908 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 6: there is a national sentiment with all these writers conferences, 909 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 6: everybody that Will Anderson should have been in that spot 910 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 6: and not Aiden Hutchinson. So assuming Will Anderson puts up 911 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 6: the numbers he did last year for Alabama, that's your 912 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 6: number two going into the season. 913 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: Now, I do think there's gonna be Bryce on fatigue. 914 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 6: You look at the history that there hasn't been any 915 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 6: read a Heisman going on. I do think Alabama is 916 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 6: going to be the nast championship game with the Ohio State. 917 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 6: But that leads me back to the CJ. 918 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:31,959 Speaker 3: Stroud. 919 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 6: But my long shot pick was Jackson Smith and the Jig. 920 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 6: But the problem is that's no longer a dark horse 921 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 6: and a long shot anymore. 922 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: He's down to twenty five to one. 923 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 3: Staying the big ten. Any thoughts on I'm gonna throw Look, 924 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: this is I'm a Heisman voter and it's subjective, but 925 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 3: I'm interested in Braylen Allen seventy five to one, seventy 926 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 3: to one out there. I love the kid. You dig 927 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 3: into the advanced metrics on him. In the same games 928 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 3: when he was playing with Malusian Company, his expected yards 929 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 3: were almost three times as much. I mean, it is stunning. 930 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 3: And then once he took over full time, going over 931 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: one hundred yards every game, averaged six pointy yards per 932 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 3: carry Monster And you know he's gonna get said and 933 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 3: you know he's going to get the volume. The question 934 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 3: is like, can Wisconsin gate enough wins? Is their defense 935 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: going to take a step back? And but I mean 936 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 3: he wasn't even getting that. He wasn't getting a lot, 937 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 3: you know, thirty touches, and he put up monster numbers. 938 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 3: I think he's an absolute stud, a tad bit underbat. 939 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 3: He's an intriguing option. If you want to throw a 940 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: dart brat you got Tyler Vandyke. Are you going to 941 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 3: stick with your Miami love here? 942 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: I agree with Colin Bryce Young is not going to 943 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: win the heighst He's already been eliminated. To be honest, 944 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: because I have voted for the Heisman for a long 945 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: time and I just know the voters don't look at 946 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: what he did this year. They looked at what he 947 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: didn't do compared to last year. So unless he just 948 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: has double the stats he had the year before, I 949 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: don't think they'll give him give him a chance. And 950 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: I think what Colin mentioned about what Dennis said is 951 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: you know it's not intentional, but you know, reporters and 952 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: sports writers, you get things kind of stuck in your mind. 953 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: You you and Colin get things stuck in your mind 954 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: about a certain team. You feel a certain way, and 955 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: maybe you're biased where you think they're better than they 956 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: are or they're worse than they are, and that's kind 957 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: of always there. So you kind of do that with 958 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: with these players and think, Wow, this guy, you know, 959 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: got screwed last year, so I'm gonna make up for 960 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: it this year. Where this guy won it last year, 961 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: so we want somebody different to have it this year. 962 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: I honestly don't have a good read on the Heisman 963 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: last year. Calling and IYES podcast, Thanks for listening, Stucky. 964 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: We correctly pegged Bryce Young halfway through the season that 965 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: he would get it. We also thought I also thought 966 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: Alabama would win the title. They didn't, but Bryce did 967 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: enough to win it. If Bryce loses to Auburn, Alabama 968 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: loses to Auburn, I don't think he wins the Heisman. 969 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: That's how that's how these voters can flip flop based 970 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: on one game, based on one play. I mean, right now, 971 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really any value on anybody. I 972 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: think c J. Stroud would be my pick to win 973 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: it right now, because I think Ohio State will blow 974 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: through the Big Ten. They'll get to the College Football 975 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: Playoff and they will exceed what they did last year 976 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: and it'll be a fresh story. I think he'll be 977 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: the guy, but his numbers are so low I wouldn't 978 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't waste any. 979 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: Money on that. 980 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: And as far as long shots, there's so many long shots. 981 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, you're just like, instead of lighting your money 982 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: on fire, just send it to me. I'll find something 983 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: to do with. 984 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 6: But can the three of us agree we're not betting 985 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 6: Caleb Williams? I mean, can I'm not betting Cayleb. I 986 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 6: won't bet Caleb Williams no matter what happened. 987 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 3: I know I never bet the Heisland. Seriously, It'll just 988 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 3: it's a fun that. No. No bo Nicks love the 989 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 3: bo Nicks Heisman train. 990 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 6: It's bow tie boom like a powder keg in your mouth, 991 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 6: sucking style. 992 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: Graham Mertz, what's Graham Mertz's price? Maybe he can complete 993 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: a pass This year Georgia runs. 994 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: A table upset to Alabama and the STC title game. 995 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: Stets and Bennett could get it. 996 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: You're gonna bet hot Stets and Bennett on the Heis 997 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 3: and just send me your money save gena like that 998 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: sitting Bennett. All right, let's end there. Thank you everyone 999 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 3: for listening. We're going to be right back with part two. 1000 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 3: We'll continue this argument and Brett's hyping of Stets and 1001 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 3: Bennett for the Heisman. But appreciate you listening. Make sure 1002 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 3: you subscribe on Subscribe Subscribe. We're back. 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We'll be doing this all call, 1021 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 7: all year, and we're happy to bribe you. 1022 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 3: So excited to do that. And we're gonna be back 1023 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: right after this apart too. See you there, cat cheers, 1024 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 3: peace out,