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Speaker 1: good show today. Coaching news is kind of dominant around

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Speaker 1: the NFL today, Steven, Yep, that's kind of what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna focus on a lot to start this year. If

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Speaker 1: most of the fans around the country have heard about

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury going to Arizona and Tampa Bay hiring Bruce Arians,

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Speaker 1: a former Arizona Cardinals head coach, and Matt Lafleur being

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Speaker 1: Green Bays, it's just coming over the wire now. Chris

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Speaker 1: Mortenson is reporting that Freddie Kitchens is probably not officially

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Speaker 1: Cleveland head coach. I can kind of see that coming

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Speaker 1: with what happened. They had Baker Mayfield, first pick of

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Speaker 1: the draft, come in, and when they fired Hugh Jackson

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Speaker 1: midway through the seasons, Freddie Kitchen was elevated offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: because they also let Todd Hayley go in that who

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Speaker 1: was the former offensive coordinator. And then Freddie Kitchens takes

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Speaker 1: over and Cleveland takes off and Baker Mayfield. Well, they

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Speaker 1: were six and one their last seven games. Murphy, you're shaking.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not crazy. It's true. So you knew

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Speaker 1: they want they had something there they wanted to stick with. UM.

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Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see what is gonna happen with

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Speaker 1: I mean Greg's kind of hard to live with sometimes

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that'll work out. But he's

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Speaker 1: a really good coordinator. But Freddie Kitchens, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield gave him his vote of confidence. He wants

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Speaker 1: to work with him. They had a nice thing going

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season and they all they

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Speaker 1: Cleveland was immediately competitive amazingly when they fired Hugh Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Who if you haven't heard this, Hugh Jackson looks like

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Speaker 1: he may be head coach of this Why are you

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Speaker 1: laughing at that? Come on, man, that's funny. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: kind of ticks. That's funny. Now, come up, Freddie Kitchens,

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Speaker 1: you can say, like that's not crazy. Hugh Jackson three

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Speaker 1: thirty six and one with the Cleveland Browns immediately gets

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Speaker 1: hired as the next head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: There's no way they can do that. They might, There's

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Speaker 1: no way. I'm just saying they might. There's no way.

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Speaker 1: Here's how they can justify it because they don't have to.

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Speaker 1: They know him pretty well. He's been there as an

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach Murph This is why I've endorsing them move.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying they may do it, and they can

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Speaker 1: defend it by saying, we know this guy's If they

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Speaker 1: where we are though around the NFL, the eight vacancies.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals still no decision yet. They're trying to replace

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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewison. Yes, Hugh Jackson is a candidate. There a

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Speaker 1: former Bengals assistant. They did the interview, right, I'm going

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Speaker 1: it's now you say today might be announced. That's what

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Speaker 1: it's being reported that Freddie Kitchens, who is the interim

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Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens was getting something out of them. Now, certainly

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Speaker 1: it's a trend, but it's not a complete trend, Fanjio. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: big revelation. I don't know who's thinking otherwise, And I

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Speaker 1: get it. You get caught up in these stars like

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Aaron Rodgers on both sides the ball,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Ben Roethlisberg, you name the great player of

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Speaker 1: your choice. Listen. Coaching makes all the difference, all of it.

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Speaker 1: Talking about coaching today and it's our Twitter polls a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact. As teams fill out their head coaching

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Speaker 1: vacancies this week, Freddie Kitchens said to be the leader

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland right now. According to Chris Mortenson, Vic Fangio

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Speaker 1: said to be the choice in Denver. Nothing confirmed on that,

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Speaker 1: as teams fell out their head coaching vacancies with offensive

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Speaker 1: minded coaches we want to know from you. Does an

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Speaker 1: offensive minded coach translate to success as a head coach

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Speaker 1: in today's NFL. Give us a call, let's discuss. Phone

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Speaker 1: minded coach translate to success in the NFL? Why or

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Speaker 1: why not? On the Twitter poll right now, thirty six

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Speaker 1: percent of you see yes, it does. An offensive minded

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Speaker 1: coach means that sixty four percent of you say no,

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Speaker 1: it does not mean success. What do you think? Give

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Speaker 1: we will discuss as the NFL fills out their coaching vacancies.

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Speaker 1: Called on the line from Pat in north Tonawanda. Hello, Pat,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hold John, all right, I'll go

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Speaker 1: back to it. No, I really don't think it's an

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Speaker 1: And I don't heard of Marvel Leavy. And what MRVH

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Speaker 1: came in there at a time and we did hit

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Speaker 1: problems with Kelly and the bickering bills and well, Marvel's

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Speaker 1: a coach of that group. Yeah, yeah, Marv's coach coaching

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Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, you know he had he had coaches

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Speaker 1: fighting between themselves to meet with. Oh yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: He was always able to write the ship. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of superstars, and he was able to make them

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Speaker 1: play other I mean, you know, don't take a bunch

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Speaker 1: of team with dolls there times. And he got them

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Speaker 1: to plays not at times, all the time. Yeah, you're right, Pat, listen,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. And it took a lot of

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Speaker 1: and it took some hard, tough decisions to write that ship.

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Speaker 1: He said goodbye to some really good players and uh

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Speaker 1: and the coaches respected him and the coaching. The fist

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Speaker 1: fight that you're talking about about the coaches that took place,

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Speaker 1: you know those I mean the two coaches that were involved.

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Speaker 1: One was my coach and the other was the offensive

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Speaker 1: line coach, offensive coach, and there they you know, they

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Speaker 1: of happens a couple. You know, the next week they're

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Speaker 1: having breakfast together in the hotel. I mean, it's you

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Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. It gets it goes away

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly. When you're pulling for the same purpose, you

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Speaker 1: kind of do that. So but the players, you're right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's what That's what a great coach does. It's not

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Speaker 1: just about ex knows. It's about handling a locker room.

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Speaker 1: It's about installing a culture. It's about setting a tone

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Speaker 1: about what's going to be tolerated and what will not

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Speaker 1: be tolerated and backing it up. Marv Levy did a

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Speaker 1: wonderful job at that, a great job at that. You

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Speaker 1: can point to other guys, Bill Parcels, Bill Belichick, Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy did it. Mike Tomlin does it to a great degree.

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Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh. Given all the drama that they have swirling

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Speaker 1: the last five years. This year's the only year they

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Speaker 1: did not make it. That is something and those guys

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't I would call Mike Tomlin a head coach.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him an offensive head coach or a

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Speaker 1: defensive head coach. Same thing. Mike. Mike McCarthy is an

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Speaker 1: offensive guy who calls plays, but he's a leader that

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Speaker 1: he was the leader of that Packers team that won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. There, they've got a head coach to me,

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Speaker 1: has to be a guy who can elevate above it.

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Speaker 1: And this, you know, we're just getting this now. Vic

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Speaker 1: Fangio is probably gonna be the Denver's new head coach.

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Speaker 1: But this is just coming out. All the stuff's happening today,

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Speaker 1: So it's got to be a thing where your head

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Speaker 1: coach and we've this Twitter question is meant to foster

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Speaker 1: some discussion about this, and I think Murph and I agree,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if the guy's offensive or defensive. He's

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Speaker 1: got to be the coach of everybody, the staff, the organization.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be the face of the organization, set

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Speaker 1: the tone of the organization, both offensively defensively, special teams wise,

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Speaker 1: of that. So yeah, whatever the guy's qualifications are, being

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Speaker 1: What do you think does an offensive mindy coach mean

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Speaker 1: you're going to be successful as a head coach? On Twitter?

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Speaker 1: Around the tweet sheet from Die Summers right, being a

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Speaker 1: head coach is not necessarily about setting schemes it's making

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Speaker 1: others can fulfill their roles, including scheme design. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: you can create scheme, I mean Belichick. We know Belichick

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Speaker 1: especially defensive in New England, but that's not his number

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Speaker 1: job is setting the tone there and establishing a standard

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Speaker 1: and establishing a bar which they all have to hit.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have to meet this standard to be

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Speaker 1: a New England Patriot. I think that's job one that

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick accomplishes. Steve not necessarily. Oh look at this

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Speaker 1: this week. All the guys I've spoken to at any level, Belichick,

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Speaker 1: all the way through to the guys who aren't head

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Speaker 1: guys that have been there and are now out of it,

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Speaker 1: they do take that job of a head coach executive

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Speaker 1: very seriously, and even the good ones, but they also

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Speaker 1: all enjoys who they all enjoy the exes and os.

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Speaker 1: I remember talking to Don Shula, the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: he goes. That's part of why I love to do

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Speaker 1: what I do is the strategizing the xs and os

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Speaker 1: think that's part. That's I think that's you got to

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Speaker 1: got to give him the freedom to do what he

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Speaker 1: wants and the xes and o's, because that's that's what

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Speaker 1: he loves to do, and that's why these guys do this.

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Speaker 1: But ultimately, if you're gonna be a head coach, there's

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Speaker 1: a million other things that get put on your plate,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to handle all of them.

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Speaker 1: What do you think offensive minded coordinators, offensive minded coaches

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Speaker 1: do they make the best head coaches? The NFL is

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Speaker 1: f it's fast this week filling up coaching vacancies. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. I want to hear from you

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Speaker 1: when we return the phone lines open eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. You can read us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at one Bills Live. What do you think about

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Speaker 1: these coaching vacancies being filled and how they're being filled

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Speaker 1: and the bills stack up on all of this. Give

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Speaker 1: Kalaida Hellth from One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. We're coming to you from our Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: one Bills one Buffalo Studio, having to have you with

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Speaker 1: us here today talking about coaching changes. So what we

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Speaker 1: got here in the NFL? It looks like four positions filled? Right?

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Speaker 1: If I have the numbers right? Vic Fangio gonna be

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Denver Broncos according to reports today,

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Speaker 1: five positions filled. Cliff Kingsbury, are you counting Kitchens? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Are you sure? I'm yeah, I'm Cliff Kingsbury goes to, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, right, got that right? Texas Tech by

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Speaker 1: way of USC, no USC by way of Texas Tech firing.

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Speaker 1: He was, and then now he's a head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cars. Arians goes to Arizona. That's three. No,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Harians goes to Tampa Bay. To Tampa Bay. That's three.

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Speaker 1: counting h Cleveland is Freddy Kitchens is being He's been

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Speaker 1: mix with with hold on, I'll tell you who he's with.

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Speaker 1: He was being with Kevin Stefanski, who's the Vikings offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens and Kevin Stefanski were the top leading candidates

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Speaker 1: for Cleveland. It looks like Freddie Kitchens is gonna be

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Speaker 1: the guy. Maybe they went to the Maybe they went

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Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield and asked him, who do you think?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I just Yahoo Sports says that Kitchens

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Speaker 1: is the guy too. All right, So let's say five,

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Speaker 1: and of that five four our offensive minded guys. Right.

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, defensive coordinator for the Bears, is now Denver's

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Speaker 1: head character. It looks like it's gonna be right. And

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Speaker 1: he's the only defensive guy. Right. So Nat leaves Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Miami and the Jets, two AFC East teams still without

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Speaker 1: a head coach. You think, and I think now it

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Speaker 1: is starting to look like I've starting to you know,

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Speaker 1: you read everything. But Mike McCarthy may end up being

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Speaker 1: a Jet head coach, right. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: like that. As a Bills fan, I like that guy's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good coach, pretty good. What do you think, gee,

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Speaker 1: you need an offensive minded guy? Some people think yes,

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Speaker 1: something no. That's our Twitter poll question. UM from the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Number one Bill says Adam Gase was

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Speaker 1: an offensive minded coach. How do the Dolphins do? Saying

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Speaker 1: it's not just the coach but the personnel he surrounds

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Speaker 1: himself with. That's true. And then Matthew C, I believe,

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Speaker 1: is making the argument for the other side. When we

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Speaker 1: success as a head coach? Matthew C tweets and if

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Speaker 1: there's any doubt see the Rams under the stash Jeff

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Speaker 1: Fisher versus the Rams with McVeigh. Is that why the

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a Here's the thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there's sucessful because Wade Phillips is a defensive coordinator, honestly,

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Speaker 1: because because he brought in good coaches. Yeah that Jeff

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Speaker 1: Fisher did not have in there. Yeah, and you has

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt. There's no doubt that mcveigh's very successful

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Speaker 1: Now the question is is he successful because he's an

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Speaker 1: you hear. You don't hear any of his players, or

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Speaker 1: any of his coaching staff or any other else. All

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Speaker 1: the only guys that are enamored with his offensive stuff,

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Speaker 1: or the fans and us people outside the organization. We're

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Speaker 1: all enamored with the numbers he put up in the

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Speaker 1: turnaround he got Jared Goff to do. But for the

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Speaker 1: players and coaches inside the building, all you hear about

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Speaker 1: is what a strong leader he is and what a

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Speaker 1: great communicator he is. Yeah, that's all you hear about.

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Speaker 1: You don't hear about, Wow, he dreamed up this play

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Speaker 1: and he was doing this. I love the stuff that

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Speaker 1: he did. Hear and this and that. All you hear

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Speaker 1: about is what a great leader he is, what a

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Speaker 1: great communicator is, and I think that's more important than

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Speaker 1: that offensive background. So what do you think? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call. Let's take some phone calls here. Brad calling

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Speaker 1: it from Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania is awfully beg Brad, where you

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Speaker 1: calling from? Oh, central Pennsylvania, Central Pennsylvania. Okay, that narrows

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Speaker 1: it down. Go ahead, Brad, what do you got hey? Um?

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Speaker 1: So he's pointing out that it's all about defense in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um, I can point out that not seven

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Speaker 1: of the eighteens less less sorry have all offensive behind

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Speaker 1: it coaches. And also concerning your CEO thing with the

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Speaker 1: head coach, I think I think what you guys were

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Speaker 1: just pointing on communication skills, getting along with the players,

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Speaker 1: et cetera is important. But I think they do it

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Speaker 1: with in football because I work in corporation in America,

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Speaker 1: of course, and I know that generally the ce CEO

663
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Speaker 1: is promoted within generally of the VP before, so they're

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Speaker 1: looking at the offensive coordinator. It's like a VP. He

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Speaker 1: knows football. How well did he communicate with his offense

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Speaker 1: or defense, et cetera? Right, Yes, so eight half of

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Speaker 1: the eight coaches, seven of them are offensive tiny Belichick

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Speaker 1: being the only defensive minded coach. Is that what you're saying, then, Brad, Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's correct. That's a that's a it's a real observation.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's why you don't have to you can

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Speaker 1: you can make that assumption. That's why we asked the

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Speaker 1: question because all the seven of the eight teams left

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs have a guy that started out as

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Speaker 1: an offensive guy, not a defensive guy, Belichick being the

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Speaker 1: lone exception. Um, it's a question that needs to be answered,

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Speaker 1: and we're and we're glad. You're glad you chimed in, Brad,

677
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Speaker 1: because it's a great point. Most of the guys left

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Speaker 1: are all offensive guys. And you got to think too,

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Speaker 1: the guy in Chicago Naggi is an offensive guy. Uh,

680
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Speaker 1: the guy who the Philadelphia beat? Um? Who did Philadelphia

681
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Speaker 1: win against Chicago? Yeah? They beat Chicago. Who are the

682
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Speaker 1: other teams that are out of it? And even the

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Speaker 1: teams that were in it were Baltimore is h Harball

684
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Speaker 1: is a special teams guy. I mean, that's all of

685
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Speaker 1: these things. Houston's O'Brien's an offensive guy, the UH Ravens Harbor,

686
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Speaker 1: yeah so, and the Cowboys and the Seahawks. Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's always he's always been a head coach,

688
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Speaker 1: but he was a defensive coordinator before that. So most

689
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Speaker 1: of them are all offensive guys. What's Anthony Lynn? Is

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Speaker 1: he an off He's an offensive guy, right, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator here in Buffalo, running back. Yeah. So it's

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Speaker 1: a good point, and it maybe, I mean, maybe there's

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Speaker 1: something to the fact that when when you're coming up

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Speaker 1: through that the game, you know, you start out as

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Speaker 1: a quality control guy position coach, um assistant full assistant

696
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Speaker 1: coach coordinator, maybe it's easier to cultivate or to recognize

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Speaker 1: the CEO traits that we're talking about, these leadership communication

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Speaker 1: traits that we're talking about from a guy, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it cultivates it on the offensive side better than it

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Speaker 1: does on the defensive. I have no idea. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, um

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Speaker 1: because they do, I mean, I mean, it's I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've never been in a defensive meeting, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it's like. How different it is got to be.

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Speaker 1: It's very similar, wouldn't you think. Yeah, but you don't

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Speaker 1: really have a guy on the defense like a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean you can say,

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Speaker 1: like Tremaine Edmonds is the quote unquote quarter quarterback. You

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Speaker 1: don't say that the quarterback is the middle linebacker of

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Speaker 1: the offense, you know what I mean? Quarterback does so

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Speaker 1: much more. So maybe that maybe that requires an offensive

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Speaker 1: coach to have one more level of preparation, how to

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Speaker 1: handle one guy that affects all those other guys. Hey.

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Speaker 1: An update on the Fengio in the Denver Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: says Fengio will run the defense in Denver as their

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Speaker 1: next head coach, and Gary Kubiak will return to run

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Speaker 1: the offense. Okay, former head coach running them. He's got

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl ring as a head coach with Denver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: going back to Denver as the OC interesting. John Elway

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Speaker 1: has got quite the fifetomb out there, doesn't he how many? Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean, like got Kubiak is coming back?

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Speaker 1: He's been around as a special consultant. He stepped away

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Speaker 1: because of health reasons. Yeah, coming back to round the

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Speaker 1: offensive I was at I was at this, I was

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Speaker 1: at the game when he collapsed coming off, had a

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Speaker 1: halftime with a stroke. That is man, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: what is it? You get Urban Meyer, all these guys

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Speaker 1: that have burned out, that's you're going to jump back

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Speaker 1: into that an offensive bro, don't do it? Does an

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Speaker 1: offensive minded UH coach translate to success as a head coach?

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Speaker 1: Dante and Amhurst, Dante, what do you think? I think

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Speaker 1: that our offensive mind headed coaches cannot success if they

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Speaker 1: have a good veteran defensive coordinator. You see it with

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Speaker 1: the ray On Wade Phillips and Stud Peterson with the

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Speaker 1: Eagles has Jim Schwartzz. Yeah. And with this year's playoff

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Speaker 1: teams that are allowed to talk is who can stop

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Speaker 1: the flash the offenses. Yeah, that's a good point and

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Speaker 1: we and Murph pointed that out a minute ago about

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Speaker 1: you know, Wade Phillips makes all the difference in the

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Speaker 1: world in LA for the Rams, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: And Jim Schwartz even here in Buffalo when he was

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Speaker 1: here that had a top five defense and it almost

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Speaker 1: seemed like it happened out of nowhere, right, I didn't

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Speaker 1: have Mario Williams and Kyle. But you know, up until

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Speaker 1: the time Schwartz showed up, they were just they were okay.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden they were top five. And you

747
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Speaker 1: have pointed out several times, Steve about the Colts and

748
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Speaker 1: Frank Reich's reliance on the Eberflus. Right, Biberflus, and Eberflus

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Speaker 1: is one of the guys who's in the mix to

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Speaker 1: become a head coach. He was really good in Dallas

751
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Speaker 1: and now he's really good in in the Colts. He'll

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Speaker 1: probably be another guy that gets another interview, may have

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Speaker 1: another shot. Well, who knows, he may end up in

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Speaker 1: with the Jets, Cincinnati or Miami too. He's on the list.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with Dante the caller, and I said

756
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Speaker 1: it earlier in the show, these news coaches, it all

757
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: comes down to the staff. You just said it. You

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00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: can bet. John Elway asked Vic Fangio, Who's going to

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Speaker 1: run his offense? And would you consider letting Kubiak do it? Not?

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Speaker 1: It's it's the critical ingredient for success. Wow. Yeah, coordinators

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00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: and their staff and the staff, the whole staff, So

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Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be interesting to see these guys can

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Speaker 1: compile it. Vic Fangio has already got it in place,

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Speaker 1: and I was, like I said Cleveland Freddie Kitchens, I

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Speaker 1: wonder what's gonna happen with Greig Williams and that that

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Speaker 1: defensive staff, because they they were doing some nice things too.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll see Tom and west Seneca

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Speaker 1: on the line of his time. Go ahead, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, John Steve, Thanks for having me. I appreciate you. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think an offensive minded coaches is good. I

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Speaker 1: like a coach Deacon strike up bales between the offense

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Speaker 1: and the defense. So for example, that a high scoring

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Speaker 1: game during the year, fifty four to fifty one. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that I could glean from that game was

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Speaker 1: that there's two high power offenses with no defense. And

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Speaker 1: that being said, I think that we have a great

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Speaker 1: coach in Sean McDermott. He's going to be a round

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Speaker 1: a long time and I think next year could be

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Speaker 1: our year. Josh Ellen, he's developing beautifully. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a great quarterback, a great runner, fast, good instincts, and

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Speaker 1: I think next year, if we're playoff bound and that

782
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Speaker 1: being set. Thank you guys, and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Tom. Yeah, and he's right, it's it's you

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Speaker 1: gotta have a balance. I mean, we've all seen great

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Speaker 1: teams kind of play good on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 1: and they're good enough on both sides of the ball

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Speaker 1: that when one side of the football stinks, the other

788
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Speaker 1: side can win anyway or help you win anyway, get

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Speaker 1: you through those tough spots. It's it's great to have

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Speaker 1: a team like that. Chiefs aren't that team, and neither

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Speaker 1: were Rams in that game against the Chiefs. And it's

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Speaker 1: amazing to me how things have changed from the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season to the end of the season. Where

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Speaker 1: the scores are coming out. I don't think it's I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's all the I don't think it's cold weather.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's wind. I don't think it's the winter.

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Speaker 1: I think it's defense is catching up with schemes and

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Speaker 1: ideas and things that these teams are doing. The word

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Speaker 1: on the Kansas City Chiefs and how awesome their offense

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Speaker 1: has played is that they don't do too many different things,

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Speaker 1: but they do it out of a different personnel sets

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00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: different formations with motions and shifts. It looks different before

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Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, but then once the ball is snapped,

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00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: they do only they do fewer things once the ball

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Speaker 1: is snapped. Teams are starting to catch up with that

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Speaker 1: later in the season. And that's all these guys that

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Speaker 1: are defensive minds spending time in these dark rooms watching

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Speaker 1: film and breaking it down. So all that stuff is happening.

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Speaker 1: And as I said, only there are four teams the

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Speaker 1: wildcard round of the playoffs that scored twenty points, three

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Speaker 1: of them one and the other was the losing Cowboys

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Speaker 1: to the Seahawks, or I'm sorry, the Seahawks losing to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Nobody's scored thirty five, forty fifty points in

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Speaker 1: these playoffs. Now, maybe they will this weekend because you've

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Speaker 1: got the Chiefs, the Rams, the Saints back in the

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Speaker 1: mix offensively. Maybe they will. Yeah, the team right, these

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Speaker 1: are the teams that score points. We'll see if it happens,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. But also,

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Speaker 1: let's see, they've been waiting for two weeks on these games.

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Speaker 1: I think these I've always said Divisional round of the

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Speaker 1: playoffs is always blowouts. You always get blowouts because the

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Speaker 1: team one team gets a buy and the other one

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Speaker 1: does it. Hey, stuff's happening quickly around the NFL. Alex

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Speaker 1: Marvez from NFL Network keeps an eye, close eye on

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, tweets this out. He says, nothing concrete,

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Speaker 1: but NFL folks I've spoken with this morning, believe Christo

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Speaker 1: Richard will land the Dolphins head coaching job. He's a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy. He's I think the Bills interviewed him a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, right for their head coaching vacancy.

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Speaker 1: He's been with the Dallas cow Boys. So our question

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Speaker 1: remains and we can discuss in any way you'd like.

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Speaker 1: Does an offensive minded coach translate to success as a

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Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL? What do you think? Give

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Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You can

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Speaker 1: tweet it in at One Bill's Live. Got a lot

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Speaker 1: going on around coaches right now. Let us know what

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Speaker 1: you think. We're back with more One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Big Day. For coaching moves around the NFL

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Speaker 1: where you are going to update them, And we get

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Speaker 1: to the top of the hour a couple of minutes away,

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00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: and Steve and I are talking about it. You need

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Speaker 1: an offensive coach in order to succeed as a head

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL? Do you need to be an

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Speaker 1: offensive minded coach? A lot of hires going that way,

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Speaker 1: a couple of late ones. Now it appears Chris Rochard

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Speaker 1: getting mentioned as the likely candidate in Miami and Vic Fangio,

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Speaker 1: longtime veteran defense coach, hired as the Denver Bronco's head coach.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this, And of course teams are

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Speaker 1: filling out there coordinator spots, Steve including you know they've

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Speaker 1: got an offensive coordinator vacancy in Tennessee Nashville, Tennessee. Country

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Speaker 1: music Nashville, Tennessee. So Jason Nisbel is a famous Sun musician,

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Speaker 1: great songwriter, one of the great performers. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know how it's not country, it's sort of a not

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Speaker 1: folk Americano music that's called it that. Jason Nizbel, I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan, and I know he's a football fan, and

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Speaker 1: he tweeted this out about his team, the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: Jason Nizabel's tweet, I don't know Jim Bob Cooter. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's a fine guy and very good at his job.

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Speaker 1: I just want our local NFL squad, the Titans, to

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Speaker 1: hire a different person because this is Nashville and his

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Speaker 1: name is Jim Bob Cooter. And that's just a tad

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Speaker 1: on the nose for me. Love that tweet, Jim Bob Cooter.

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Speaker 1: It is a funny name. And if he if Jim

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Speaker 1: Bob Cooter winds up coaching the offense in Nashville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna say, well, of course

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Speaker 1: he is, even though he spent the last several years

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. Really funny tweet I thought by Jason Isabel.

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Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter is in line to be the Titans

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Jim Bob Cooter can coach. Yeah, they'll be

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Speaker 1: good to get it. They'll be happy they have him,

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Speaker 1: and their quarterback will love him. I know Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: had a really good relationship with him. Jim Caldwell brought

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Speaker 1: him onto the staff and elevated him to the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He's a real bright guy. Now, things did not go

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Speaker 1: well for him in Detroit this year, but there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for that that don't have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with who's coordinating their offense. Do you think

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Speaker 1: at any point during coach Cooter's career he might have thought,

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Speaker 1: why don't they just go with Jim and leave James

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Speaker 1: Robert James something? You're just Jim. I'm Jim Cooter. Hi,

883
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Speaker 1: I'm your offensive coordinator, right, Jim Bob? Yeah, he belongs

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Speaker 1: to Nashville. Do you think that? Yeah? That's yeah. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: you gotta don't you just automatically kind of like that guy, right,

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Speaker 1: Jim Bob. Hey, here's Jim Bob's Jim Bob. He's gonna

887
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Speaker 1: coach our quarterbacks. Hi, Jim Bob. Pretty funny stuff, sharp guy,

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Speaker 1: really good coordinator. He's gonna have a job in the

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Speaker 1: NFL if he wants one, great and wish him the best,

890
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Speaker 1: great name. Yeah it is. He's gonna talk more about

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Speaker 1: these coaching moves with James Palmer, NFL Network national reporter.

892
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this weekend's playoff games as well. James Palmer,

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Speaker 1: not the former Orioles pitcher, but James Palmer is going

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Speaker 1: to join us when we come back. Come on back

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Speaker 1: for that. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Healo Hills

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Speaker 1: Radio Network Stories Update. The update from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: Coaching moves all over the National Football League. Get is

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Speaker 1: going down today in the NFL. VIC Fangio coming back

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Speaker 1: as You're not coming back. He's becoming the head coach

901
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Denver Broncos expected to hire the

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Speaker 1: longtime defensive coordinator as their head coach. Ian Rapperport had

903
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Speaker 1: their report. Fangio gets a four year deal with a

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Speaker 1: fifth year option. Dangio spent the previous four seasons with

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Speaker 1: the NFL's top defense. This past year, the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: ready to promote Freddie Kitchens to their head coach. Kitchens

907
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Speaker 1: has been the interim offensive coordinator ever since Todd Haley

908
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Speaker 1: was fired in mid season. Freddie Kitchens going to be

909
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. The Cardinals hired

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Speaker 1: former Texas Tech coach Cliff Kingsbury to be their next

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Speaker 1: head coach. Gets a four year deal with a team

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Speaker 1: option for a fifth year. In news conference, coming up

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Speaker 1: in Tempe, Arizona. Phoenix, Arizona. Later today, Ruse Arians ending

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Speaker 1: his retirement. He'll be the next head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The deal is for four years with

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Speaker 1: a one year option. Arians retired after the twenty seventeen season,

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Speaker 1: his fifth as the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons of hired former Tampa Bay coach The

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Speaker 1: Cutter to be their offensive coordinator, and he's made a

920
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Speaker 1: few hires of his own. Cutter hired Mike Malarkey as

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Speaker 1: his tight ends coach. Malarkey former head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, and Cutter is now the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. The NFL and the NFL Players Association

924
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: agree there was no evidence that Carolina Panthers safety Eric

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00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Reid was targeted in the performing performance enhancing drug testing program.

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Speaker 1: Reid made that charge after a loss to New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: saying he'd been selected for testing for the seventh time

928
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Speaker 1: this season. Buffalo Savers coming off a big win, a

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Speaker 1: five one win over New Jersey. Fourteen different Savers picked

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Speaker 1: up points in the five goals second period. That's a

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Speaker 1: franchise record, Carter Hutton had twenty saves. C J. Smith

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Speaker 1: and Lawrence Pilot each scored their first career goals last night.

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Speaker 1: Savers next game is Friday night in Carolina at seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: College basketball Saint Bottom at your home against Saint Joe's

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Speaker 1: to night seven o'clock at the Riley Center. That's the

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Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker in

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Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio taking a hard look at all

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Speaker 1: the coaching moves in the NFL. Today, we got a

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Speaker 1: good guy to discuss it with. He joins us on

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Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take Hotline. Happy to have James Palmer,

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Speaker 1: NFL Network national reporter, contributor to NFL Networks, Good Morning Football,

942
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Speaker 1: NFL Game Day Morning. He's been with the NFL Network

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Speaker 1: for the last four years. James Palmer. You can follow

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at James Palmer TV, and you can

945
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Speaker 1: see him Saturday on NFL Networks Good Morning Football Weekend

946
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Speaker 1: at nine am and on NFL Game Day Morning at

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Speaker 1: twelve noon Eastern. James, John Murphy Seem Tasker in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, guys, and I appreciate letting everyone know

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Speaker 1: exactly where to find my Smiley faith on NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: We covered everything there. I appreciate, so we do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've hearing any birthdays of Burn Mitchells which you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: James or Hey, we spent the first hour of our

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Speaker 1: show here today trying to keep track of all the

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Speaker 1: coaching moves. Things are moving quickly around the NFL right now,

956
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Speaker 1: aren't they. Yeah, it's unbelievable. You know, the Freddy Kitchens

957
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Speaker 1: and Vic Fangio just happened probably within five minutes of

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Speaker 1: one another. And I would say both not really big

959
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Speaker 1: surprises in a sense. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: like what Freddie had done with Baker and the impressions

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Speaker 1: that he made once he took over, you know, after

962
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Speaker 1: things had their shuffle mid season, and what he was

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Speaker 1: able to do with the growth of Baker Mayfield. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, things have moved on from Greg William there.

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Speaker 1: But the other part with Denver and Bick Fangio is

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Speaker 1: I think kind of one of the more feel good,

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Speaker 1: you know, coaching hires of the day or of this

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Speaker 1: season or of a little while. You know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a Bruce Arians type of situation. A guy

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Speaker 1: has been well respected for a long time, never been

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Speaker 1: a head coach after thirty two years in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and you know what he's done as a defensive coordinator

973
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Speaker 1: and the way that people feel about him. It's been

974
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Speaker 1: one of those things where people just kind of thought

975
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Speaker 1: this was passed to do and was it ever going

976
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Speaker 1: to happen? And now Denver pools a trigger on him

977
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Speaker 1: and everything kind of lined up correctly. I'm in Denver

978
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Speaker 1: right now, actually, so I'll be going to that press

979
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Speaker 1: conference tomorrow. But if the Bears would have won, they

980
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Speaker 1: might have jumped at Mike Munchek just because you know,

981
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Speaker 1: you don't ever want to miss out, and they would

982
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Speaker 1: have had to wait. But you know, Fangio is kind

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Speaker 1: of one of the cool feel good stories. I think

984
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Speaker 1: of these coaching hires as we talk about so, you know,

985
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Speaker 1: loosely and candidly about all these guys losing their jobs

986
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Speaker 1: and you know, their jobs and professions in a sense

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Speaker 1: to where that's a that's a positive one. James, We're

988
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Speaker 1: having this conversation today about the trend in hiring the

989
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Speaker 1: next Sean McVay. Everybody's going after and it's been a

990
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Speaker 1: topic around the media in the NFL, since the names

991
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Speaker 1: and the lists of what who teams are interviewing got out,

992
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Speaker 1: it seems to be predominantly offensive minded guys. Now Vic

993
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Speaker 1: Fangio and Chris Richard for the Miami Dolphins. Those are

994
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Speaker 1: two defensive guys out of the eight that we're looking at.

995
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Speaker 1: But is that a trend? Why? Why do you think

996
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Speaker 1: that is? I guess is the best question. Why Why

997
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: is everybody looking for an offensive guy? Yeah? You know,

998
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: I mean obviously it's a quarterback driven league, right, and

999
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Speaker 1: you know that's where we find ourselves. And everybody goes

1000
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Speaker 1: back to that Monday night game where you saw Patrick

1001
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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Jared gosspelling it all over the field calling

1002
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Speaker 1: everybody's saying, that's the best game in half a century

1003
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Speaker 1: they've seen. And why was that? You know, points on

1004
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Speaker 1: the board, creativity, offensively and you know that's what you

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Speaker 1: know people want to see in the check and that

1006
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Speaker 1: gone where you say, yeah, Sean McVay has been kind

1007
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Speaker 1: of the one. You talk about Kyle shanahan and I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: like I mentioned Denver, they were looking at Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have and you look at Lafour

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Speaker 1: has done, and you know, that's that's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of experience, and that's one of the jumps, you know,

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing. But I think when you look at

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, I like when somebody like Anthony

1014
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Speaker 1: Lynn is having success in a way, and it kind

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Speaker 1: of steers you back from maybe just jumping all into

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Speaker 1: that school of thought to where I think that's where

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Speaker 1: Denver wants it as well. They wanted somebody who was

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Speaker 1: great at exactly one thing, whether it be an offensive

1019
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: mind or a defensive mind, and they were comfortable with

1020
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Speaker 1: going with a defensive mindy guy. But it is it's

1021
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Speaker 1: the sexy thing right now because you've seen some success

1022
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Speaker 1: and and and I think we're going to get a

1023
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Speaker 1: chance to you know, now that a couple hires have

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Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of years since Sean's been hired.

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Speaker 1: I think now we're gonna, you know, start maybe getting

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Speaker 1: back down to Earth or jump completely off the planet

1027
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Speaker 1: if these guys start winning some championship, the vacancies that

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Speaker 1: kind of remain out there. I just wanted your take

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Speaker 1: on what might happen in those situations, James, And let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Cincinnati Bengals. Where do you think they're going?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting there was a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: early on, you know, it was advanced Joseph being relieved

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Speaker 1: and could he come back and be a guy that

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Speaker 1: could you know, that could find that spot, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: could return him back to Cincinnati where you know, they

1036
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Speaker 1: really liked him and it blocked him, liked him so

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Speaker 1: much they blocked him from head coaching in other types

1038
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Speaker 1: of interviews a couple of years back because they wanted

1039
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Speaker 1: to hang on to him. So that could be a

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Speaker 1: name that, you know, that can float around there in

1041
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Speaker 1: a sense of trying to keep track of what do

1042
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Speaker 1: we have left at Miami left that might take a

1043
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Speaker 1: little while, how things, how things transpire there. I know

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is really interested in the Jets, and you

1045
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Speaker 1: know what happened with them in Kingsbury. It's kind of

1046
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Speaker 1: seems like the Jets options are starting to whittle down

1047
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Speaker 1: a little bit. So I think McCarthy's the name that's

1048
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Speaker 1: kind of been linked there. And I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to take a little while for Miami because everybody they

1050
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Speaker 1: have their their kind of eye on is still kind

1051
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Speaker 1: of playing so um that kind of slows their process

1052
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Speaker 1: down in a little bit. But yeah, I think things

1053
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Speaker 1: are starting to come together after today, what was it

1054
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: all NFC before today and we're waiting for all the

1055
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: AFC and now a couple of a couple of shoes

1056
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: have dropped, and I think now things will kind of

1057
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: fall into place a little bit, and uh, we'll see

1058
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: what happens over the next couple of games. I wonder James,

1059
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: and I've read some discussion about this, but there's a

1060
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: chance that African American head coaches could get shut out

1061
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: in the eight hires this year. What kind of impact

1062
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: you think that might have, especially I know teams are

1063
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: complying with the Rooney rule, but if if none of

1064
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: them get hired, is that a problem for the NFL

1065
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: or for these individual teams. I think it is a

1066
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: problem for the look of the NFL because you look

1067
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: at the number of African American head coaches that were

1068
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: relieved during this, you know, during this past year. So

1069
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: I think that makes it, uh, you know, look even

1070
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: larger in a sense that if nobody gets hired and

1071
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: you saw several lose their jobs, you know, Steve looks

1072
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: after a year Van sh Joseph after two years Marvin

1073
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 1: Lewis is a different situation, you know, But but still

1074
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: I do think it's something that everyone, you know, needs

1075
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: to address, and I'm a advocate of it, and I

1076
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: think just not at the head coaching ranks. I think

1077
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: it's the one spot that we don't talk about it enough,

1078
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: is the executive ranks and the general manager ranks. Right

1079
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: that that part prob of it isn't you know, discussed

1080
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: as much. That we don't see enough African Americans in

1081
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: that portion of the game. And I do think you know,

1082
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: you're right, a lot of teams do comply with the

1083
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: rudy role, and I think it's just might be magnified

1084
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: in this cycle because of the way things have fallen,

1085
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: But it's definitely something that we shouldn't ignore by any means. Right,

1086
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: You've been traveling around this week and you want to

1087
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: ask you about some of the wild card matchups and

1088
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, divisional round matchups. The Colts at the Chiefs,

1089
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: what Marlon Mack the Colts, they had the really the

1090
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: largest margin of victory of any of the wild card

1091
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: games of the Indianapolis Colts seemed to be hitting on

1092
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: all cylinders rolling into Arrowhead Stadium. What do you see

1093
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: in this game? Yeah, you know, I did that game

1094
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: in Houston, and I thought the Cults are gonna win

1095
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: all week, just because I've been following them closely and

1096
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: talking to a lot of people there, and you know,

1097
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like, you know, you have Andrew

1098
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: luck Plant this unbelievably high level, and you see the

1099
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: way him and Frank Reicher are getting things together offensively

1100
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: as remember they're just starting to learn one another and

1101
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: get things together offensively. They can beat you multiple ways.

1102
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: They have an offensive line that just I mean didn't

1103
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: allow a sack to Clowney and Watton company, only four

1104
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: quarterback hits and just owned it. And so if he

1105
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: has time to do what he wants methodically with that offense,

1106
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: and then a defense that is a bunch of you know,

1107
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: B B plus players, I mean, it's like they don't

1108
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: really have a weakness anywhere. I'd be nervous about was

1109
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I know the Texans weren't happy about the

1110
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 1: draw and now the Chiefs being the number one seed,

1111
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: but I mean, I think everybody wants to see what

1112
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes can do in the playoffs. I'm just nervous

1113
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: about that Chiefs defense. If Eric Barry can go, that's

1114
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: a big difference for them. Sammy Watkins, if he can go,

1115
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: that's a big difference for them as well. But I'm

1116
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: thinking teams are pretty pretty nervous about the Indiapolis Colson

1117
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: as they continue to play, keeping one eye on that team. Yeah,

1118
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: I mean the Chiefs should be nervous about their defense,

1119
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: especially against the Indianapolis team, which is demonstrated they can

1120
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: put some points up. They've got a more than capable

1121
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: quart ofment right. It's unbelievable what they can do with

1122
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: you know. I think t Y Hilton's one of the

1123
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: more underrated receivers in football. And what Frank has been

1124
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: able to do to revitalize Eric Ebron once they got

1125
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: him from the Lions. And they find so many different

1126
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: creative ways to put t Y in situations where you

1127
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: can't press them, you can't get up on them because

1128
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: they move them around. They line them up right next

1129
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: to Ebron, run them off of each other, make things

1130
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: difficult for safeties. They're good in the red zone, and

1131
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: a quarterbacker doesn't make mistakes. I had so many guys

1132
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: in the Texans going we spotted them fourteen points off

1133
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: the break. We knew this guy isn't going to give

1134
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: us the football back. He's not going to make any mistakes.

1135
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: And now you know, with the offensive line that keeps

1136
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: him upright and keeps him protecting and keeps him calm,

1137
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: I think they're a really dangerous team. I really do. Yeah,

1138
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about some of the weapons

1139
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City has. It seems to me, and I'm from Afar,

1140
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: it seemed, and I've been saying this to Murph and

1141
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: on our show. I really feel like the Colts are

1142
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: good enough offensively to do what they want. And I

1143
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: think they're gonna just take you know, eleven yards and

1144
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: three downs, make first down, stay on the field, score

1145
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: every score, touchdown on every possession, and then hope they

1146
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: get one or two stops and that'll be the margin

1147
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: of victory form at the end of this. But you know,

1148
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: you look at the Chiefs, man, they can I mean,

1149
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's playing well. I mean, they got all these

1150
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: guys and it's and it works the same both ways.

1151
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: If if the Chiefs get a stop by by lucky

1152
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: break or by good defensive play, it could go the

1153
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: other way as well. I mean talking a little bit

1154
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: like Travis Kelsey. I mean, he's got one hundred and

1155
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: three receptions, is a tight end. I mean they throw

1156
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: it around like nobody else. And he got a quarterback

1157
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: in Patrick Mahomes has thrown for five thousand yards. So yeah,

1158
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: is it too much to ask for a team like

1159
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: Indianapolis to go in there and just hold them off

1160
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I think that's too much to act.

1161
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Mahomes is gonna get hit. I

1162
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: mean a kid in his first year as it started,

1163
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: swifty touchdowns and over five thous I mean it's he's

1164
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: gonna put some points on the board. And I think

1165
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: India is aware of that. But I think what you

1166
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: said in the beginning of that is completely prevalent. I

1167
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: think Andrew can run an offense and run that group

1168
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: methodically enough to where honestly he could have the ability

1169
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: to be patient, if that makes sense, with his drives

1170
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: and have drives last and make sure that he takes

1171
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: time off the clock. He's so good also at the

1172
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, to where he can sit there and

1173
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: work things how he wants and manipulate and take time

1174
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field because the culture

1175
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: well aware. I talked to Frank Wreck yesterday. They're well

1176
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: aware that Mahomes is gonna put points on the board,

1177
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: and they're well aware that. The crazy thing that stands

1178
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: out to Frank is that he doesn't make mistakes. Like

1179
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: when you make big plays like Patrick Mahomes does, and

1180
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: you do it in the manner and the excitement in

1181
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: which he does, he said, usually compared it to golf.

1182
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Usually you have a big hitter like that that you

1183
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: know he's gonna put some out of bounds. He's like,

1184
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that. He doesn't turn the ball over.

1185
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: You know, he protects it at the same time as

1186
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: may amazing plays. So the Colts are well aware of that,

1187
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: and you know it. Steven in two backs I've talked

1188
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: to around the league just say covering Tyree Hill is

1189
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: like unlike covering anybody else. It's just it's just there's

1190
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: a different speed, in a different way in which he

1191
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: tracks the football that nobody else does. So you compare

1192
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: him with Travis Kelsey and I've been in Kansas City enough.

1193
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: If Sammy Watkins can go, it changes that entire offense

1194
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: with those three guys. I mean, man Pat has has

1195
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: his liberties to do what he wants. Now that the

1196
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: fact is, I think you're right. Do you find a

1197
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: couple of spots that you stop them? Do you find

1198
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: time to keep him off the field? And I think

1199
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Kansas City is well aware they're gonna have to outscore

1200
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: everybody throughout the entire playoffs and that's going to be

1201
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: their formula. And is that enough to get them to

1202
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Do you think James History said no? Right,

1203
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's just too difficult to do that.

1204
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: I do think they have a dynamic enough pass rush.

1205
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean d Ford and Justin Houston. You know, they

1206
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: have more pressures as an duo than anybody else in football.

1207
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: And then you look at the season Chris Jones had

1208
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: in the middle. I mean, if they were going against

1209
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: anybody else that doesn't have an offensive line built like

1210
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: the Coat, you're going to maybe get a game changing player. Two,

1211
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: we're a greater chance of a game changing player too.

1212
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: And you're hoping that you can, you know, flip a field,

1213
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: get a short tug and then you get an insurmountable lead.

1214
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: But against Indy that's gonna be tough, and I just

1215
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: don't think you know, I know they say they are

1216
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: a different defense when Eric ferries on the field, not

1217
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: just because the player is because what he recognizes, what

1218
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: he sees, what he can call out to the rest

1219
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: of the guys pre snap. But I just don't see

1220
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: enough talent and enough playmaking ability on that team to say, yeah,

1221
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna score forty five points a game and we're

1222
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna outscore everybody for this, you know. Throughout these playoffs,

1223
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: all right, changed as we look towards the divisional round

1224
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, We've talked a lot about Indianapolis in

1225
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City, But Dallas at Los Angeles, Rams, Philly at

1226
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: New Orleans, the Chargers at New England, or any one

1227
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: of the other three games that intrigue you in LA

1228
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: against the Rams in New Orleans or in New England. Yeah,

1229
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of them jump out of me. One. Obviously,

1230
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: we want to see a football's back in LA. And

1231
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: obviously the Cowboys in the playoffs are always a big

1232
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: name thing, and I think we want to see what

1233
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: things are like, you know, with Wade Phillips in the

1234
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. To me, always is something exciting to watch.

1235
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: The other one to me is we're running out of chances.

1236
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: And I was a big part of seeing a lot

1237
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: of these games when Payton Manning and Tom Brady were

1238
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: going against each other. So when you see two guys

1239
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: that are going to the Hall of Fame, because I

1240
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: think Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer, we're limited

1241
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: in chances, like you know, Brady Rivers and the playoffs.

1242
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, we're done with Manning and Brady in the playoffs.

1243
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: So so obviously that's always something that you want to

1244
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, you want to make sure from the nostalgic

1245
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: factors you get to watch. And then two, I was

1246
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: at that game in New Orleans when the Eagles suffered

1247
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: the worst defeat a defending Super Bowl champ has ever

1248
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: ever had, you know, in the following season, when they

1249
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: got just destroyed by the same So going back down

1250
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: there after what happened during the regular season is really

1251
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: intriguing to me as well. So yeah, there's a reason

1252
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: to watch these three other games, sure, and I find

1253
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: things that I really love about each one of these

1254
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: three other matchups. I'll be at the Colts, you know,

1255
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: in Chiefs game but these other ones all have a

1256
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: pretty cool storyline to them when you look back and

1257
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: think about it. James, last question I have for you

1258
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: is this just a Buffalo thing? Why does it feel

1259
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: like the AFC has the most compelling matchups, the best

1260
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: game so far in the postseason? Is that just the

1261
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: way we feel here in the FC Buffalo, No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a different type of playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: think everybody would kind of agree. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: were gonna, you know, had to bet the mortgage on

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Speaker 1: who you were going to take, I think anybody in

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Speaker 1: the country who's sweating it because there's no front runners.

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Speaker 1: In a sense, everybody has a lot of weaknesses, and

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Speaker 1: I think the AFC was the was the side that

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Speaker 1: you had probably more questions about, right, So I think

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Speaker 1: that's why we almost have u. You know, everybody loves

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Speaker 1: the Rams and every I mean everybody, everybody loves the Saints.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at what's happened in the in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, I think, you know, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different, and it's a little bit more even,

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Speaker 1: and obviously there's always that Brady factor, but at the

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Speaker 1: same time, it's a little bit more of an even

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Speaker 1: field I think in terms of anybody can win. We saw,

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Speaker 1: you know, with Indi going into going into Houston, so

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the aft side of things

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Speaker 1: that we're all kind of staying. James, Thanks for this, James,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Thank you. James Palmer, NFL Network reporter.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at James Palmer TV.

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Speaker 1: You can see him Saturday on NFL Networks Good Morning

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Speaker 1: Football Weekend at nine am Eastern and on NFL Game

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Speaker 1: Day Morning at twelve new and Eastern. James Palmer from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network. That'd be a pretty good gig. Steve Hunt,

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Speaker 1: he's going around to the big games every week, said

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Speaker 1: he's going to He's in Denver right probably going to

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Speaker 1: the news conference tomorrow for Vick fan Joe, and then

1290
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Speaker 1: he'll head back to Kansas City for that game. You

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Speaker 1: know what, we didn't talk about this the game, and

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Speaker 1: I think I know we're both rooting for the Colts.

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01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: That noise in Kansas City is real and it's formidable.

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Speaker 1: That'll be that'll be something for the Colts to contend with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it will, um and it'll be interesting to see. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a really good game. Yeah, he's right.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to hold the Chiefs off the scoreboard, even

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Speaker 1: in particularly in their building. Particularly and if and if

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Speaker 1: he's right too, if Sammy Watkins comes back healthy and

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01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: we're here in Buffalo, you know, you kind of got

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01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: a sour taste in your mouth for how it went

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01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: after they drafted him and gave up all that those

1303
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: draft picks to get him. Simple fact of the matter

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: is when the guy is healthy, he can really play.

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Speaker 1: And think about this, he's making fourteen million bucks. He's

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Speaker 1: the fourth option in Kansas City, the fourth, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: the third now that cream Hunt is no longer he's

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: the he's the third option, the third one. He's the

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Speaker 1: afterthought in that offense. That's how that's how high flying

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Speaker 1: that that thing is. Mahomes can can find anybody. Sammy

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Speaker 1: Watkins is a guy who and for me, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: who wouldn't Who wouldn't we all be happy to be

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Speaker 1: the third option in offense pulling down fourteen million bucks.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. And that's think about what we

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Speaker 1: know about him. That's exactly what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: He wants to be a guy just he doesn't want

1317
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: to be the he doesn't not the lead dog. He

1318
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: just to be out there get his opportunities, makes them

1319
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: make a ton of money and not have all the

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: pressure that goes with being the guy who has to

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: get it done every Sunday. And he's in the perfect spot.

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Speaker 1: If he comes back in his hell, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: writ in that spot. He'll be there and think about

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Speaker 1: how talented he is for the Chiefs as a guy

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Speaker 1: that oh, by the way, we've got an outlet and

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Speaker 1: it's a guy that runs the four three three and

1327
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Speaker 1: catches every can catch everything. I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing what the Chiefs have put together out there,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna but now they got to put it.

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Speaker 1: They gotta he's got to pay off house stew or die. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: had a great start to the season. I poppy numbers,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. The game against the

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Speaker 1: Rams was incredible. Means nothing. Now they've got to perform

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Speaker 1: this weekend. They've got to perform. Yep, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Oh yeah, all that all that production, all

1336
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Speaker 1: those numbers, all those the flash and all that stuff

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean doesn't mean anything. Anything doesn't mean anything. If

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Speaker 1: you stub your toe this weekend, if you do what

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: you did in La, Mahomes trying to come back gets

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01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. You got a team that's keeping up

1341
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: with you, or it's a tight game, you throw one

1342
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: too many interceptions and it's over. You know. I remember

1343
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: even that La game, they were down to score or two.

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01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: They went down bing bang bang, and they and they

1345
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 1: got to stop and got it back, you know, because

1346
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: the other team didn't keep their foot on the gas.

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01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: That's one thing too that you can bet that the

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: Colts will not do if they get a lead. They

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Speaker 1: will not go into a shell. The Andrew Luck, Frank

1350
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Speaker 1: Reich and the things that happened to Frank Reich in

1351
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Speaker 1: Philly last year when they stayed aggressive in the Super

1352
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Speaker 1: Bowl and now wound up winning it because they were

1353
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Speaker 1: aggressive throughout four quarters. You can bet Frank Rink will

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: do that in Kansas City as well. Even if he's

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Speaker 1: got a double digit lead, He's not going to go

1356
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Speaker 1: into a show. You can't do it with those guys.

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Speaker 1: A lot to talk about in a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about with coaches today too. We were talking about the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland situation. The Browns have relieved. Now they've they've hired

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Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens, promoted him their interim offensive coordinator. Is now

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns head coach. And they you were asking

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Speaker 1: this earlier the report. Now they've relieved Greg Williams of

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01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: his duties. His defensive coordinator. Greg Williams no longer with

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns for whatever reason. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: those reasons are. Kitchen says, the right to bring in

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Speaker 1: his own defensives. That's the reasons right there. And he

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Speaker 1: brings gonna bring in whoever he wants. And he and

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Speaker 1: as we've said, you know, Greg's not for everybody, right right,

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Speaker 1: so good way to put it. And he'll tell you, Greg,

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Speaker 1: if you don't believe him, just ask him. He'll be

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Speaker 1: out of work for about five minutes. He'll be somewhere coordinating,

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Speaker 1: and he may be you know, you think about it.

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01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: He may end up in He may end up in Miami, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay, Cincinnati. He may ended up with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. He'll find work Arizona. I mean he may,

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Speaker 1: he'll he'll he'll beat one of these new staffs, maybe

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: getting a coordinator doing a coordinating stuff. Or he may

1378
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: end up in the AFL to AFL Kitchens hired by

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Speaker 1: the Browns. The Broncos hired Big Van Jo. You heard

1380
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: Nightcliff Kings where he goes to Arizona Rus Arians goes

1381
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're filling up. The only

1382
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: vacancies you can see right now would be the Bengals,

1383
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the Jets. We want to know what

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: you think offensive minded coaches? Do they get the nod?

1385
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: Are they what you're looking for? Teams filling their head

1386
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies with offensive minded coaches? Does an offensive minded

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Speaker 1: coach translate to success as a head coach? That's our

1388
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: Twitter poll and close to two thirds of you think

1389
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Speaker 1: yes or no, Rather, it doesn't require an offensive minded coach.

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Speaker 1: Sixty four percent of respondents to our Twitter polls say no,

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: an offensive minded coach does not translate to success as

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Speaker 1: a head coach. Thirty six percent say yes. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? Give us a call eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. We'll get to your calls. We'll

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Speaker 1: read some of your tweets when we come back. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker one Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the show. We're halfway through it. One Goes Live

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01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: from One Goes Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker. You went

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,839
Speaker 1: to hockey last night? Oh yeah, you saw the goals?

1402
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: Five goals? Were you losing it? Did you? Yeah? Here

1403
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: we go, Here we go now. I think the gold

1404
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: song after that one man, it was like a chorus.

1405
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: You know the words. I just sang them, just those words.

1406
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: It was fun though, have a big crowd, happy crowd.

1407
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: We got They scored first. I love the way you say.

1408
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: We the New Jersey Devil scored first and the first

1409
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: period ended one nothing. Then then we come out. We love. Yeah,

1410
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: we come out and we get one and Skinner goes

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: down and puts one top top far corner. Shelf I

1412
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: was like, okay, we're back in it. Well then they

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: come back and this this new guy, Uh what is

1414
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: the c J Smith? I don't think. Yeah, right, So

1415
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: he comes down, he gets his friend and we find

1416
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: out I didn't know it's his first one of his

1417
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: NHL career. Oh great, Yeah, he's great. Then later on

1418
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: everybody starts scorning, and then this other guy, Lawrence Pilot,

1419
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: gets his first of his NHL career. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1420
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: he listened. Jack needs to sit for a little while long.

1421
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: They need to get these guys up and running. He's

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01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: still out. He's the only one with an injury that

1423
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: no one knows what the injury is well, and apparently

1424
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: no one cares. I'm sure Jack cares, but no one

1425
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: is making an effort to explain. Now. Now he's out

1426
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: two weeks. Rights hasn't been two weeks. He's out almost

1427
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: two weeks. He's missed three or four and we have

1428
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: no idea why. I don't know why that is. I

1429
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: don't know how they get away with that in hockey?

1430
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: Is the number? Is the meal ticket for the Buffalo

1431
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: Sabers out for two weeks? Why? Um, don't ask upper body.

1432
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: You don't need to know. Really, how much did you

1433
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: pay for your tickets last night? A couple hundred bucks

1434
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: worth of tickets? Yeah, don't you have a steak in that?

1435
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: Maybe knowing a little bit what's going on around that team?

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: This bothers me. I know, we talked about it last week.

1437
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: I know. How does it not bother you? You're you're

1438
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: a stakeholder. Man. That doesn't doesn't bother me. Couldn't get

1439
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: away with that in any other sport, I know what.

1440
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: It's not really like any other sport. It's here's the

1441
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: thing with hockey. They do some of the most archaic,

1442
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: arbitrary and seemingly ill informed and ill advised things with

1443
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: the way they handle their league in the public sense,

1444
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: the way they handle the lottery, the way they handle

1445
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: their draft, the way they handle the player suspensions and finds. Uh.

1446
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: The arbitrary nature of some of their rulings is laughable

1447
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: for a professional sports league. But when you go to

1448
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: the game and you sit down in a seat in

1449
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: a live and this isn't just the Sabers again, this

1450
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: is NHL. This is a hockey in general. It is

1451
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: the best live sport going in this stadium. On it

1452
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't transfer, It doesn't it doesn't translate well to TV.

1453
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't translate well, you know, as a television program

1454
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: doesn't translate well the three quarters of the United States.

1455
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, right, it's not America's sport. It's not a

1456
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: United States sports although there are a lot of fans

1457
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: and deep you know, died in the wool people who

1458
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: love the sport. And I'm you know, let's face it,

1459
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of it, of my team. But man,

1460
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: when you're sitting there live and even last night, you

1461
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: knew at some point Zebras we're gonna get involved. You've

1462
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: got five one, Daddy's gonna get involved and make sure

1463
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: that the other team has a chance. So they're gonna

1464
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: call a couple of penalties on the other team that

1465
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: are absolutely ridiculous just because you know what, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're down a little bit, you know, we just let

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Speaker 1: them get you know, give them a chance to get

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Speaker 1: back in the game. It's so ridiculous. And it's in

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Speaker 1: the league and the analysts, the instigators, the analysts on TV,

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: the national guys, even on ESPN, they all come in

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01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: and they trumpet the fact that, well it's the third

1472
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: period now, so we're not gonna call any of that,

1473
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: Like that penalty right there that you saw calling for,

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01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: We don't do that. You can't call that in the

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: third period because it it you know, then then you

1476
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: got to let the players decide the game. Well, if

1477
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 1: the players decide to, if the players decide to, you know,

1478
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: break the rules. It's okay in the third period, but

1479
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: not on the It's ridiculous. And they trumpet that is

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01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: like a positive thing. It's ridiculous. And yet here I

1481
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: am throwing up and I'm I'm standing standing, I'm standing

1482
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: up singing the goal song, and I'm all about it

1483
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: in life in a live setting, and I gotta tell

1484
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: you a video that it's great. So, and you know,

1485
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: my brother in law was with me last night and

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01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: he's from you know, he lives in Kansas, right ever

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: seen did he ask him? I call? I thought he

1488
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: was a good player. What's his injury? Did he That

1489
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: would be a normal person's response. And I said, yeah,

1490
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: he's got an upper body. And he didn't follow it up.

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01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: What are we talking about it? He's he's got an

1492
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: upper bowl. You don't ask, We don't ask. Right, Hey,

1493
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: we're talking a little football today, Steve and I. You're

1494
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: welcome to join us. Talking about the coaching moves in

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. A lot of them, a couple going on today.

1496
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: In the last couple of days, it's been wild. So

1497
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: when you look at the coaching moves, does it follow

1498
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: that if you're a successful offensive minded coach, then you

1499
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: get to be a head coach? Is that what teams

1500
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: should be looking for? Give us a call, let us

1501
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: know what you think. Eight oh three five fifty toll

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: or on Twitter at one bills, I we got some tweets.

1504
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: Will read interesting tweet from Tim Hurries and I'm gonna

1505
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna accept his research here, he writes on Twitter.

1506
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: If you look at super Bowl winning head coaches in

1507
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty, so as we talking about thirteen years,

1508
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: twelve years, this will be a thirteen There's been a

1509
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: split between offensive and defensive minded coaches. Offensive winning coaches

1510
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl Peterson, Kubiak, Coughlin, I guess he's

1511
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: an offensive coach, right, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, defensive coaches Belichick,

1512
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: Carol Tomlin, Dungee Cowers teams hardball. So it's five offensive

1513
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: minded coaches, five defensive coaches, one special teamer. As a

1514
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning coach since twenty ten, he writes, five

1515
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coaches have won the Super Bowl. We're

1516
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: not just talking about winning Super Bowls, but it's an

1517
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: interesting point, maybe illustrating the fact that offense defense it

1518
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't really matter, but when you look at the hires

1519
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: that are going on right now, it appears that it

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01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: matters to the people doing the hiring. Yeah, we've one

1521
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: of the other guys that tweeted out and I'm always

1522
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of follow media people, Minish Meta that covers the

1523
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: Jets and is Yeah, I think he's a Jet fan

1524
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: as well. But he marks that of the five of

1525
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: the teams remaining with vacancies, the only team that has

1526
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: interviewed Mike McCarthy are the New York Jets. None of

1527
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: the other teams, the Broncos, Browns, Dolphins, Bengals, nobody's even

1528
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: asked to interview him. And it's not a case of

1529
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: him turning him down. They didn't ask him. The Jets

1530
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: are his own only option if he's got to come

1531
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: back into head coaching this year. Mike McCarthy former the

1532
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers. That's interesting to me because

1533
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: I just thought a guy like him would be kind

1534
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: of saw him after right in Demanders won a Super Bowl.

1535
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: Yep um shelf like maybe people think calls on this topic.

1536
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: Kevin and Rochester on the line. Hello, Kevin, Welcome, You're

1537
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: on the air with us. I'd like to know what

1538
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: you think of the coaching day turned down the Bottomer job.

1539
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: He's staying until till retire when the coach retires, and uh,

1540
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: the head coach retires and either takeover h or retire

1541
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: with him. And who were talking about Josh McDaniels in

1542
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: New England. Yeah, Yeah, he's basically pulled himself out of

1543
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: the running for any jobs. He interviewed Green Bay. Yeah

1544
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: this year. Um, yeah, I mean he's got that. It's

1545
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: almost like he's got the job in his back pocket.

1546
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: I would think, Josh Mking. It seems as though because

1547
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, for those of you who can't remember, h

1548
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: McDaniels was hired as Indianapolis's coach and then renigged even

1549
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: after he'd started hiring coaches staffs. Matt Eberflus's defensive coordinator

1550
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: who's now still there. He renegged And the thought was

1551
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: that Bill Bellett. He had a meeting with Robert Craft

1552
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick. They coaxed him into staying in New

1553
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: England and apparently assured him of some things, whether it

1554
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: was going to be he was going to be the

1555
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: next head coach after Bill retires in a certain time frame,

1556
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: or whether he was going to get an upgrade passing

1557
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: or passing, or an upgrade in his paycheck, whether he

1558
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: was going to get now inside some sort of inner

1559
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: circle with Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft where he was

1560
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: going to get a deeper level of decision making that

1561
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: they go through there and the way they do business.

1562
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: Whatever the assurances were, Josh McDaniels took him, and then

1563
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: he went to and then decided not to take a

1564
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: couple of interviews, and then did take one interview in

1565
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: Green Bay that we know of. So the thought is

1566
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: that McDaniels has decided he's going to be next coach

1567
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots at some point. Is that's

1568
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: the thought, and he's not going anywhere. So yeah, I

1569
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: don't know what she asked about. What I know, that's

1570
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: all I know. I'm surprised that anybody even asked to

1571
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: interview him after what happened in Indianapolis last year. But

1572
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, owners are going to do what they want

1573
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: to do. Thanks for your calling. Let's go to Mark

1574
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: and Williamsville. Hello, Mark, welcome, you're on the air. How

1575
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: you guys doing good? Thank you good. I like that

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01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: segment with mister Palmer, I thought you guys did a

1577
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: good job with that. Oh thank you. Thanks. My question

1578
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: has to deal with offensive coaches, and in particular with

1579
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: the Bills. I not impressed with our offensive line coaches

1580
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: over the past few years, and I'm wondering we need

1581
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: somebody that's a good teacher, good coach, good teacher. And

1582
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: I wonder the two two questions. First, does Brian day

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 1: Ball have a lot of saying who gets hired in

1584
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: that position? And secondly, what a college coach get into

1585
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: this position? Because when I look at like schools like

1586
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Iowa, there seems to be a lot

1587
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: of offensive lineman having success in the NFL from those

1588
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: particular schools, and I would think that those offensive line

1589
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: coaches might be in line for something like that. Yeah,

1590
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: Iowa and Wisconsin in particular have always produced quality NFL

1591
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, and sure Brian Dable as I think a

1592
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: significant saying who they hires the offensive line coach. This

1593
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: is something to watch on I don't know if we talk.

1594
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: You and Brownie may have talked about him Monday. Sean Coogler,

1595
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: former offensive line coach here, also coach tight ends here

1596
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: Western New York native. So now they have the head

1597
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: coach in Denver, Vic Fangio. Does Fanjio want to keep

1598
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: Sean Coogler? Remember how the report was the Broncos prohibited

1599
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: Kugler and several other assistants from looking around, interviewing around

1600
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: until they hire their head coach. So it'll be up

1601
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: to Fangio now to determine whether he wants Sean Coogler

1602
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: on his staff in Denver, keep him there he's under contract,

1603
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: or if he's going to let him look around. If

1604
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 1: he is going to look around, I think Sean Coogler

1605
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: will be a great fit here. Did a good job

1606
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: with when he was here with the Dick Giron staff

1607
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. A former head coach at Texas

1608
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: al Paso. So he left Buffalo and moved around a

1609
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: little bit, went to Pittsburgh, did a good job in Pittsburgh,

1610
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: and then went to UTEP. Did a good job there

1611
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: and has been with the Broncos. I'd love it if

1612
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: he came back here to coach the offensive line. But

1613
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: we'll see. That's my choice. Yeah, that's not McDermott's or

1614
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: as far as I know, uh Dayball's choice. You're right,

1615
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: up until the time of the hiring Denver hiring Vic Fangio,

1616
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let any of their coaching staff interview with

1617
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: any other teams, which it's a little I don't know

1618
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: why that would be, but obviously they want to see

1619
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: if they can minimize their financial loss by firing a

1620
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff one or two years into their contracts. And

1621
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: the caller Mark asked, you know, if does day Ball

1622
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: have a saying you said it, Yeah, he probably does

1623
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: have a voice in that room, and particularly if he

1624
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: knows guys if they're considering, or if he has a

1625
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: list of guys he would consider as being a good coach.

1626
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: For instance, if Dryan Dayball was going to do an

1627
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: interview as a head coaching candidate, he would have a

1628
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: list of guys he would call to ask to be

1629
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: on his staff. So yeah, they would go and talk

1630
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: to him. And just like Sean McDermott did when he

1631
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 1: interviewed for this staff. It just like other coaches would

1632
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: have on their on their h on their desk, they

1633
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: would have lists of guys they know that would be

1634
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: good coaches. Secondly, yes, about the college coaches, Iowa having

1635
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 1: good offensive lineman, Wisconsin having good offensive linuage. Yeah, you know,

1636
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times, particularly the pros, and

1637
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I've I've got an

1638
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: elitist attitude or whatever. But you know a big kid

1639
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: in college who plays well and gets the pros and

1640
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: plays well a lot of and I do, And I

1641
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it's right or wrong. You have to

1642
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 1: talk to somebody else if if you want a different

1643
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: opinion than mine, but I'm giving you mine. In college,

1644
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: you can get away with a lot of athletic ability

1645
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: and a big guy. You can't do that in the NFL.

1646
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: It gives you a chance to get in the door

1647
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: if you meet the requirements. If you're big enough, strong

1648
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: enough kid in the offensive line, you can get a

1649
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: tryout for the NFL. In the college a lot of

1650
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: times to me, even in the Big ten level, even

1651
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: in the SEC level, sometimes that's all it takes. If

1652
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: you're a big, strong kid, you get to play. So

1653
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: I tend to discount schools who have a good offensive

1654
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: lines because they have a good offensive line. Coach Um,

1655
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: I think in college it has more to do with

1656
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: the physical talent than these guys, rather than the scheme

1657
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: or a guy coaching them up because the techniques are different,

1658
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: and the players that they're playing against on a weekend,

1659
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: week out basis are not NFL players. NFL offensive lineman

1660
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: that required to be might take anyway, required to be

1661
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: much more athletic than they are in college. Right, might

1662
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: say the same thing, absolutely, right, Absolutely, You gotta be

1663
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: able to move a little bit a lot, and they

1664
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: gotta be athletes. They gotta be big. You think about

1665
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, I mean, the guy can he's a scratch

1666
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: golf or not that that's an athletic thing, but it's

1667
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: a skill. He can swim, he can hoop um. You know,

1668
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: you're you're playing against guys who are Yeah, they are

1669
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds and they do look a little chubby,

1670
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: but they can outrun most people walk in the street.

1671
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: And they can certainly in physical combat, can can hold

1672
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: their own against anything. They can move, particularly in small

1673
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: explosive hands, small explosive spaces. They yeah, they they're good.

1674
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean they're really good athletes. And uh that's that's

1675
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: a it's a big, big jump from Division one Wisconsin, Iowa,

1676
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: Notre Dame kind of offensive lineman to the NFL. Yeah,

1677
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: all right. What do you think as far as the

1678
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: coaching moves in the NFL. We will recap some of

1679
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: those moves when we come back after this break. We'll

1680
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: read some of the tweets on the tweet sheet about

1681
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: how you go about hired a head coach in the

1682
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 1: NFL these days? Is it a prerequisite you got to

1683
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: have an offensive background? Let's know what you think eight

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Speaker 1: three fifty to three one eight five fifty two five

1685
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: fifty or you can join us on Twitter at One

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Speaker 1: Goals Live, John Murphy's Steep Tasker One Goals Live presented

1687
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 1: by Kalaida Health from One Deals Drive. This is Buffalo

1688
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome to the show, the Big Show. It

1689
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: is One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. I'm John

1690
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Murphy with Steve Tasker. What are you laughing about? Yeah,

1691
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: big show. It's a big show today, sudden got big. Look,

1692
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on with coaches not here in Buffalo.

1693
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: You know how odd it is to have all of

1694
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: these coaching moves and have none of them involved the

1695
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. I kind of like it. I gotta say

1696
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: I like it. I like having stability. This Bills Bills

1697
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: might be the most stable franchise in the NFL right now,

1698
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: Stee really one of them? Yeah, it's great. Vic Fan

1699
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: Joe hired his head coach of the Denver Broncos, Freddy

1700
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Kitchen's going to be the head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

1701
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: He was their interim offensive coordinator, Cliff Kingsbury. It's a

1702
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: four year deal to be the new head coach of

1703
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Bruce Arians. He is the new head

1704
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: coach of the Tampa Bay Bucks. Am I missing one?

1705
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing one. Matt Lafleur, Green Bettle Flour,

1706
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: Green Bay. So five down, three to go. Um, Bengals

1707
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: still open, Dolphins still open, Jets still open. Chris Richard

1708
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: mentioned as a possible leading candidate in Miami. Um, that's

1709
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: the coining to Alex Marvez, who knows a thing or

1710
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: two about what how the Dolphins do their business. Richard

1711
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator for the Seahawks when they won

1712
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. Interviewed here

1713
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: when the Bills hired Sean McDermot two years ago the Jets,

1714
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: that's it's an odd thing with the Jets. And you

1715
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: mentioned in a minute ago because the feeling is that

1716
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy that's the only job he's in play for

1717
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: former Packers coach. He has been, has been, he has not.

1718
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: It's been reported that he has not interviewed for any

1719
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: other jobs. Is she the Jets top candidate? Does that nothing?

1720
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't know you can make that assumption. But who knows?

1721
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Chris he was He's forty years old, defensive back in

1722
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: the league. He was, uh chard Chard, Yeah, who knows?

1723
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: And the other one the Bengals. Can I tell people

1724
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: she's really bothering me all these coaching because we were

1725
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: talking about it. We have you know, we have playoff

1726
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: weekend coming up, and all this other stuff is we

1727
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 1: got two days Jets and the Jets and the Dolphins

1728
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: don't have a head coach right now. Just the longer

1729
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: that goes, the better it is for for the Bills,

1730
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean this doesn't matter right when

1731
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson could get hired by the Dolphins. Hugh Jackson,

1732
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 1: I told you, and you and I have a informal wager.

1733
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you think he actually is going to

1734
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: be back in the league with the with the Cincinnati Bengals.

1735
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Now granted, The Cincinnati Bengals are the very definition of

1736
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: dysfunction in the NFL, the way they run candidates and right.

1737
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: But I think they are the quintessentially most stably dysfunctional franchise.

1738
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: By the way, McDermott was hired January eleventh, so we're

1739
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: not quite there yet. Yeah, anyway, go ahead your anti

1740
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: Bengals ring. I just can't. I can't believe he's gonna

1741
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: be back in the league after going three thirty six

1742
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: and one over three years and through two and a

1743
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: half years in Cleveland as their head coach. That'll be something.

1744
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm not an apologist for Hugh Jackson. I'm

1745
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: not a fan of Hugh Jackson. I don't know Hugh

1746
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: Jackson that well, but I do know this. He is

1747
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: held in high regard by most everybody in Cincinnati, by

1748
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, who's out now, by the ownership and the

1749
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: management there by the players there. I don't know about

1750
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: the fan base there, but the way the Bengals operate,

1751
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of you know this, You've talked about it.

1752
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of a closed family environment. They might not

1753
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: care what you think or I think, or fans think

1754
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: about their head coaching higher. They might say, Hey, we

1755
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: know Hugh Jackson, we know he knows us, we know him.

1756
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,919
Speaker 1: He's our guy. So I'm saying I've got to predict.

1757
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for it. I predict he'll be the

1758
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: guy I've got the field. So anybody else other than

1759
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson, Yeah, I win. I win a little wager.

1760
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: But and it was mentioned right away as soon as

1761
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: it happen, and that Vance Joseph may be in line

1762
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati or to be considered as Cincinnati's head coach.

1763
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: He was there as air defensive coordinator for a minute

1764
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: and was very highly regarded. In fact, the Bengals had

1765
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: blocked him from doing interviews during his time there in

1766
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati because they wanted to retain him, and then ultimately

1767
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: when he got, you know, interviewed to be a head

1768
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: coaching job, you can't block that, I don't think so.

1769
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I think the rule is and is this right, Murph?

1770
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: I think this is correct. You can't block a coach

1771
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: from being interviewed by another team if the job they

1772
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: are interviewing him for is better or higher than the

1773
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: one he holds with your team. I believe that's true.

1774
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: So if you're if you're a wide receiver coach, they

1775
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: can block you being interviewed to be another wide receiver coach,

1776
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: but they can't block you from being interviewed for an

1777
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator's job. I believe you're great. Okay, So they

1778
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: did that with Vance Joseph a couple of years ago.

1779
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals were so to me. I think he's

1780
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: leading the field aside from Hugh Jackson. Uh, but I

1781
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: just can't. I cannot believe a fan base would would

1782
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: not just I don't think you could sell it. Yeah,

1783
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that matters to the Brown family since

1784
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: that's really don't dysfunctional. They don't do things the right

1785
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 1: the well, not the right way. They do things their

1786
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: own way. They do not spend money to win. They've

1787
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: got facilities that are lagging behind the rest of the NFL.

1788
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: They've got a philosophy, a business philosophy behind the scenes

1789
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: in their football operations and their scouting department that lags

1790
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 1: behind the n They don't really have enough exactly, and

1791
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,759
Speaker 1: they've done that for decades exactly, and and their product

1792
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: for the most part. Uh. Despite the efforts that Marvin

1793
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: Lewis made and the and the steps forward. He brought

1794
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: their organization. Uh, they you know, they're always behind, They're

1795
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: always behind, and so I maybe maybe that's why you

1796
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 1: think Hugh Jackson's well, you know how I feel. I'm

1797
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: not rooting for it. I'm a new Jackson fan. I

1798
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: just have a feeling nets away the venus three thirty

1799
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: six and one. I know, three thirty six I know

1800
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: and one. Now this is in his defense, and we

1801
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot in the summer during the

1802
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. Hugh Jackson was set up to fail right

1803
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: from the start this year. When you have Todd Haley

1804
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: and Greg Williams and their own personal agendas, and you

1805
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: have them as your top two lieutenants, your coordinators, you're

1806
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 1: set up to fail. I think you're set up to

1807
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: fail both. Now. Greg Williams knows a lot about defense

1808
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: and has had successful defenses. Todd Haley knows a lot

1809
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: about offenses and has had success as a coordinator. You

1810
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: put them together on that staff, You're set up to fail.

1811
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 1: You could see it. You could see it on TV

1812
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks this summer. Remember you can see the

1813
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: dysfunction on full display from the Cleveland Browns, A training camp.

1814
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: What have we been talking about the old day about

1815
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: the coaching candis whether it's offensive or defensive minded coaches.

1816
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: The one thing we agree on, they've got to be

1817
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:08,480
Speaker 1: a strong leader, a guy who can help your organization

1818
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: get through rough patches. Hugh Jackson created a rough patch

1819
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: when he hired that staff, and then he couldn't handle

1820
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: it when they started doing whatever it was they were doing,

1821
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 1: and he saw parts of it on hard knocks, you know,

1822
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: the way he handled the meeting, and it was it

1823
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: was evident he was not cut out for that type

1824
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: of role, at least in that room. You know, he's

1825
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: not He's not a type A personality that's going to

1826
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: go in there and lead and get guys to join him.

1827
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: And he was stacked his staff with guys who are

1828
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 1: type A personalities, and that's that's that right there. His

1829
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: decision to bring those guys on and not be able

1830
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: to handle it was is a sign that he's not

1831
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: ready to you know, he's not cut out for that.

1832
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: I don't think. I just don't think he's the right

1833
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 1: guy for for any coach, any head coaching job in

1834
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's a really good offensive coordinator, He's I

1835
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: think he was a pretty good play caller. I think

1836
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: he's a really good quarterback whisperer. I think guys respond

1837
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: to him and that in that relationship. There's no question

1838
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: he can coach at the NFL level. But I don't

1839
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: think he's a head coach at the NFL level. I

1840
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: don't think that three thirty six and one screams at me.

1841
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: It screams at me. I can tell it, particularly when

1842
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 1: you look at what they did when he left. So

1843
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. All Right, Hey, we got an hour

1844
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: to go and we're gonna talk with Connor Or from MMQB.

1845
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: He is a staff writer for Sports Illustrated. He's got

1846
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: some thoughts on these coaching moves and on the playoff

1847
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: games this weekend. Come on back our number three coming up.

1848
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

1849
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Hello Bills Radio. Network. Sports Update from One Bill's Drive.

1850
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: A busy day in the NFL coaching ranks with a

1851
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: couple of head coaches getting jobs today. Freddie Kitchens, interim

1852
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,760
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns, has been named the

1853
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: browns new head coach. He's according to NFL Network, Kitchens

1854
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: became interim offensive coordinator when the Browns fired Todd Hailey

1855
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: and mid season. The Browns also have let up be

1856
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: known that Greg Williams their interim head coach after Hugh

1857
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: Jackson was fired. Greg Williams will not be back with

1858
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: the Browns in any capacity, not as defensive coordinator. Denver

1859
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: Broncos ready to hire Vic Fangio as their new head coach.

1860
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 1: A longtime defensive coordinator, Fangio gets a four year deal

1861
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: with a fifth year option. He spent the last four

1862
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: seasons with the Chicago Bears. They were the number one

1863
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL in twenty eighteen. Reports say that

1864
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Garry Kubiak will join Fangio on his staff and become

1865
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. Kubiak, former head coach of the Broncos

1866
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: who took them to a Super Bowl victory. The Arizona

1867
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals last night hired former Texas Tech coach Cliff Kingsbury

1868
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: to be their head coach. Kingsbury gets a four year

1869
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: deal with a team option for a year. News conference

1870
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: coming up today. He's thirty nine years old. Kingsbury fired

1871
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: by Texas Tech in late November after seven season six

1872
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: as head coach. He was hired by usc to be

1873
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. He walks away from that job to

1874
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: become the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Bruce Arians

1875
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 1: ending his retirement, They become the next head coach of

1876
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a four year deal with a

1877
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: one year option. Arians retired after the twenty seventeen season.

1878
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Is fifth with the Arizona Cardinals. Falcons have hired Dirk Cutter,

1879
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,879
Speaker 1: former Tampa Bay head coach, as their new offensive coordinator,

1880
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: and they've hired former Bills head coach Mike Mularkey as

1881
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: their tight ends coach. Malarkey hearted ways with Tennessee after

1882
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,560
Speaker 1: going twenty and twenty one and three seasons as the

1883
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 1: Titans head coach. Malarkey back in the NFL, now with

1884
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Hockey. Savers had fourteen different players pick

1885
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: up points in the second period last night. They scored

1886
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: five goals and beat New Jersey five to one. Buffalo's

1887
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,799
Speaker 1: next game tomorrow night in Carolina at seven thirty. College

1888
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: basketball Saint Bonaventure. I'm at home tonight at the Riley

1889
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: Center seven o'clock tip off against the Hawks of Saint

1890
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: Joe's Don't Go to sleep on the Hawks, Steve, you

1891
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 1: know the Hawks hill maskot you ever see that? The

1892
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Hawks just flaps his wings the entire game. I thought

1893
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: that was a Temple owl. Nope, Saint Joe's Hawks. I

1894
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe the owl does it too him, all right,

1895
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're not too excited about that. You're

1896
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: not talking to hockey yet, fucking to the instigators. Hey,

1897
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Speaker 1: joining us on the line right now. Staff writer for

1898
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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, contributor for MMQB, former NFL dot Com reporter

1899
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Speaker 1: Connor r is with us Connor, John Murphy and hockey

1900
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: fan Steve Tasker here. Thanks very much for joining us. Connor.

1901
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me. I

1902
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Kind of a crazy day. Are you able

1903
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: to keep up with everything going on? These coaching moves?

1904
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: What's your overall impression? Yeah, I think I think it's

1905
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: gonna get crazier here. You know, I think there are

1906
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,560
Speaker 1: three there are three teams. Last in, you know, I

1907
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: think the Jets are going to throw us a curveball.

1908
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't know why I think that. You know, there's

1909
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot of conventional thoughts surrounding that job, but they

1910
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: know the they need to kind of make a big

1911
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 1: swing as well as Dan Darnold. So I think our

1912
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 1: day is going to get maybe not today, but over

1913
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours, I think is going to

1914
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: get even crazier. I'm just saying to Steve on the Jets.

1915
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: So the reports are, and you never know how much

1916
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: faith to put in these, the reports are that that's

1917
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: the only interview that Mike McCarthy, the former Packers coach,

1918
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: has had and the only job he's interested in. But

1919
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: is it feeling mutual? Is he the only guy that

1920
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 1: Jets might be interested in? What have you heard? Yeah? No,

1921
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: I think this is you know, they're the big push,

1922
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: the big momentum here was I think, for the first

1923
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: time since Rich cod type, to get an offensive minded

1924
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: head coach in there, to have someone mold Sam Darnold,

1925
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 1: to build an offense that they came to recognize under

1926
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls and Jeremy Bates was just broken, his inefficient,

1927
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 1: It was putting too much pressure on him at certain times,

1928
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: it was not giving him the chance to succeed. And

1929
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: so this is their focus the you know, for the

1930
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Speaker 1: first time really and a lot longer than that, to

1931
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 1: develop a franchise quarterback. So I think that you're seeing

1932
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 1: a crazy push right now in a very diverse candidate

1933
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: pool that they've brought in here to get that done. Yeah,

1934
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: and who do you think? I mean, is there a

1935
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 1: list of three or four guys that are still sifted

1936
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Speaker 1: through and they haven't they're trying to decide between what's

1937
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: the shortlist for the Jets. Well, you know, certainly we've

1938
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: heard of McCarthy, we've heard of you know of Adam Gaze,

1939
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: but you know Matt Rule from Baylor again, another guy

1940
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 1: that is making a lot of noise during this process.

1941
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: The Jets liked Cliff Kingsbury too a lot before you know,

1942
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: he ended up taking the job in Arizona. So it's

1943
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: hard to tell exactly, you know, kind of how they

1944
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 1: want to do things. But you know, I wouldn't be

1945
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 1: shocked at all if they were the next team to

1946
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: maybe dip down into the college market. Well, all right,

1947
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 1: what do you know about the Dolphins? What have you

1948
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 1: heard about the Miami Dolphins? Connor? What do you think? Yeah,

1949
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're to me is the most interesting. You know,

1950
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 1: they've been super quiet, you know, and a lot of

1951
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: teams have made a lot of noise. They've brought in

1952
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of candidates. It seems like, you know, the

1953
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: Miami Herald, I believe, reported the other day that they're

1954
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 1: kind of deep into talks with Brian Flores from the

1955
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. If that's the case, would make sense

1956
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: that they haven't made a lot of noise right now

1957
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: because they have to wait for the Patriots to lose anyway, Um,

1958
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 1: it would be you know, interesting to get a defensive

1959
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: minded perspective down there. Although um, that's a lot on

1960
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: the first time head coach's play when he has to

1961
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,560
Speaker 1: choose between Ryan Tannehill and drafting a quarterback getting a

1962
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: new system in there. But uh, yeah, we'll see. I

1963
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: think I think Miami that's that's a huge hire for them,

1964
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: especially moving on from a big personality like Adam Gates.

1965
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 1: And there's reports a couple of credible ones about Chris Richard,

1966
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: the former Seattle defensive guy, might be Miami's guy. You've

1967
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: heard much about that or anything about that? Yeah, you know,

1968
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's zeroing in on, you know, the personnel that

1969
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 1: they have and trying to accentuate that. And Richard is

1970
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 1: another guy that's that's interviewed exceptionally. Well, um, my guess

1971
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: is that you know, he would have an edge in

1972
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: terms of the offensive people that he could bring to

1973
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 1: round out his staff. But these are all decisions that

1974
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: you know, these Dolphins have to wait for people to lose.

1975
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 1: They have to wait for answers back from prospective offensive

1976
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: coordinators defensive coordinators. So I don't envy teams that are

1977
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: are still left right now without a head coach. I

1978
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: think that that's you know, you wait and you get

1979
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: that credit for being patient. But at the same time,

1980
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: these coaches kind of fly off the board once these

1981
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 1: hires are made. Yeah, one of the things that we've

1982
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: talked about with these head coaches landing in these different

1983
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: spots is they're gonna they're now they're gonna have to

1984
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: assemble their coaching staffs. And you know, Bruce Arians landing

1985
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: back in the league in Tampa Bay has already hired.

1986
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 1: It looks like he's gonna hire Byron left which is

1987
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and Todd Bull's former Jets head coach as

1988
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators. Are there any other big names out there

1989
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 1: that are looking to get back in the league as

1990
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: a coordinator. Well, you've heard a lot now about you know,

1991
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,839
Speaker 1: the the Broncos bringing in um, you know, Vic Fangio,

1992
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: and what that might mean for Gary Kubiak to get

1993
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: back in the mix. Their former head coach is potentially

1994
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: as the Broncos offensive coordinator. That would be Elway's best

1995
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: case scenario, it would be Kubiak's best case scenario, and

1996
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:05,919
Speaker 1: maybe they could kind of put something together. Interesting, interesting

1997
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,560
Speaker 1: kind of situation developing there. But yeah, I mean this

1998
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 1: is a real challenge for assistance. Who you know, you

1999
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: think about trying to line up schools for your kids?

2000
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: Where am I going to live next year? You know,

2001
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: which of my friends am I going to let down?

2002
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 1: And which my friends am I going to pick? Uh,

2003
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,600
Speaker 1: you know to help out their staff next year. So

2004
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 1: it's a really sort of a fascinating time to be

2005
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: in the business. One head coaching vacancy still out there

2006
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: is Cincinnati and there are people actually wagering as to

2007
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: whether Hugh Jackson might wind up as the head coach

2008
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:36,759
Speaker 1: of the Bengals. What do you think of the Bengals

2009
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: in general and what do you think does Hugh Jackson

2010
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 1: have a chance to be there next head coach? Oh? Boy,

2011
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that hire would be tough

2012
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 1: to explain. You know, I think that that's that's a

2013
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 1: fan base that is looking to move on, you know,

2014
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: as much as Marvin Lewis did for that franchise over

2015
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,520
Speaker 1: the last two decades, I think that they wanted departure

2016
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: from that. But we've seen that that that coaching searches

2017
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: really stalled. Seems to be between Hugh Jackson and possibly

2018
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Van's Joseph. So it's gonna be more guys who are

2019
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 1: sort of tight in Marvin Lewis, the circle of guys

2020
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: who have learned under him, and so you know, you know,

2021
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough that's on Mike Brown and

2022
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: sort of his family there to try to sell that

2023
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: to the fan base. I don't know how easy that's

2024
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna be. I know, And what I was saying to

2025
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Steve a little earlier on the show here, Connor, I

2026
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: don't know if the Bengals care, you know what I mean,

2027
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: what the fans thinking. Seriously. I mean, they're kind of

2028
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: not that they're bad people, but they're sort of h

2029
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 1: I kind of classed, you know what I mean. They've

2030
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: got their own little circle and they don't really care

2031
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: what we think about that, yeah, And that's and you

2032
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: could say that about their coaching hires. You could say

2033
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,560
Speaker 1: that about the draft picks that they've made that have

2034
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: certainly been or that you know, the players that they've

2035
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: resigned or brought in over the years who have certainly

2036
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 1: been controversial. It seems like they've always sort of had

2037
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: that idea that we're just gonna do things the way

2038
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: that we want to do them, and you know a

2039
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 1: lot of times that that works, you know, I mean,

2040
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: if you stick to what you know. Although the playoff

2041
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,600
Speaker 1: record at this point to sort of might speak for

2042
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: itself in terms of how ultimately successful the Marvin Lewis

2043
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Tree or era is going to be there, how deep

2044
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: do you think? And I guess it's being called this,

2045
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: but the Sean McVay effect around the National Football League

2046
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: of not you know, Matt Lafleur is certainly a disciple

2047
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: of Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, these young, offensive minded

2048
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: coaches who are in their thirties who are getting a

2049
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: chance at a very young age because they have shown

2050
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 1: an ability to install or change players fortunes. For instance,

2051
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 1: Sean McVay and his effect on Jared goff. Everybody wants

2052
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: to do that in the same way. How deep do

2053
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: you think this effect is going to go. I mean,

2054
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: obviously we've got some defensive guys that are getting the jobs.

2055
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: But is this going to continue you think throughout the

2056
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: foreseeable futures. I'll tell you how deep it's going to go.

2057
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 1: It's deep enough that the Cardinals mentioned in their press

2058
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: release that Cliss Kingsbury and Sean McVay are friends. That's

2059
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: how deep it's gonna go. They want people to know

2060
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 1: that the two of them have met one another before.

2061
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: But you know, I think, yeah, it's real, it's real.

2062
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: But here, I'll give Cleveland a ton of credit for

2063
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: sticking with Freddie Kitchens because a lot of times these

2064
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: are the guys that get overlooked. There's a ton of

2065
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: really good coaches who just have no political savvy, who

2066
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 1: don't have the right agents, who don't have the ambition

2067
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: and just never rise to the top, but might end

2068
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 1: up having the best ideas. I don't think necessarily this

2069
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: is the market that's proving that. I think it's who

2070
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 1: can kind of market themselves as the as the offensive gurus,

2071
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 1: who has the kind of agents that can get you

2072
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: in front of people like that. Cliffs Kingsbury I think

2073
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 1: is a good hire in the in the sense that

2074
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: it opens teams minds up to new possibilities and I

2075
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 1: think will see more diverse candidates, which is great. But

2076
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, I think that any

2077
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 1: owner looking for the next Sean McVeigh should probably realize

2078
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 1: that he not out there. There's there's only one, and

2079
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: he's in Los Angeles. We're with Connor or, a staff

2080
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: writer for a Sports Illustrated contributor to MMQB, talking about

2081
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: some of the coaching moves going on this week today

2082
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And as you mentioned, Connor, anybody looking

2083
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: for the next Sean McVay, that's that's a I think

2084
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: that's a trap that owners fall into frequently. We need

2085
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: the next Sean McVay, we need the next this guy,

2086
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: We need the next Andy Reid, you know. And there's

2087
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,639
Speaker 1: gotta be a better way to do this. There's gotta

2088
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: be a better way to identify the candidates who would

2089
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,560
Speaker 1: be not just good play callers or offensive coordinators or

2090
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: or offensive strategists, but but good head coaches CEOs run

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Speaker 1: the whole program, right. You can't just keep going back

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Speaker 1: to the hot coordinators every year, but they do. They

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Speaker 1: fall into the trap every year. Yeah, and I think

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01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 1: the perfect examples out a guy, a great guy that

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Speaker 1: you guys know, well, Anthony Lynn's going to be playing

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Speaker 1: this weekend and you know how to not been for

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan sort of you know, pumping him up, promoting

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Speaker 1: him through that chain. Anthony Lynn might still be a

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01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: running backs coach right now, which is insane to think about.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've I've tried to challenge and by

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Speaker 1: writing owners through the years because you know, the worst

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Speaker 1: thing that you could do, I think is is be

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Speaker 1: wrong and b mediocre conventionally. And you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing teams that have original ideas and hire

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Speaker 1: diverse candidates with different experiences. I think you're seeing them

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Speaker 1: being rewarded. You know. You know, Sean McVay was an

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Speaker 1: outside the box higher you know, certainly, you know, even

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll at the time was a hire that many people,

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Speaker 1: you know, thought wasn't going to succeed. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think those are the candidates that you know, when

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Speaker 1: teams just find out for themselves, they really spend time

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Speaker 1: on a guy and not pay attention to kind of

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Speaker 1: all the noise outside and they make a decision based

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Speaker 1: on a checklist that they've made for themselves. Those are

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Speaker 1: the teams that you're seeing in the playoffs. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this kind. Is Sean McVay a success and

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Speaker 1: he is a success with the Rams? Is he a

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Speaker 1: success because he's an offensive genius? Or is he a

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Speaker 1: success because he is a good head coach who hired

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Speaker 1: good coordinators i e. Wade Phillips and others and kind

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Speaker 1: of manages the whole program. What do you think what's

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Speaker 1: the strongest asset? Yeah? No, Well I think that the

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Speaker 1: latter is probably going to come with time, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they lose this season, you know they've

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Speaker 1: sort of stumbled down the stretch. He's got guys on

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Speaker 1: that team in donickin Sue with keep to leave, who

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01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 1: are older than him. You know, how does he handle

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01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: a disappointing playoff loss? Can he corral that locker room again?

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01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 1: Can he face people who's all of a sudden thinks

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Speaker 1: that he's not as smart or not as talented as

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Speaker 1: they thought he was a year ago. And so I

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Speaker 1: think that certainly the rise has come, you know, with

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Speaker 1: his ideas offensively and what he's been able to do

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Speaker 1: with quarterbacks. But I think we're going to find a

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Speaker 1: lot out about him in terms of the administrative aspect.

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Speaker 1: How much of a motivator is he? You know, it's

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01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: easy when you're winning games, but when you start losing

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Speaker 1: a lot of games that people expect you to win,

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Speaker 1: that's when you find out, I think, how good of

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Speaker 1: a head coach you really are. Well, it has been

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Speaker 1: the way of the NFL to recycle or ela a

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Speaker 1: hot coordinator, a guy who's really had some success when

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01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: things click for him for a single year or for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and one of the guys. Let's

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01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: not forget there are guys, and it has worked over

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Speaker 1: the course of the National Football League. Mike McCarthy is

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Speaker 1: a guy who won a Super Bowl and play and

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01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: had an illustrious career, won more games than any head

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Speaker 1: coach in Packer history before he was released this last year.

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Speaker 1: And there's another guy in the playoffs this year who

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Speaker 1: was Sean McVay before Sean McVay wasn't. It's Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: and it's amazing how he has survived after the two

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Speaker 1: thy twelve bounty gate of being suspended for an entire

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Speaker 1: season and coming back and now he's got his team

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Speaker 1: playing as well as they ever did. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just not only Sean, but I mean Jeff Ireland,

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Speaker 1: the job that he's done in that Personell department. I

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01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 1: mean I spent I spent time there two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: right before Christmas, and you know, you just take a

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Speaker 1: trip around that locker room. You start talking to some

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Speaker 1: of the guys and you think about all the matchup

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01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: problems that they know that they post. You know, people

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Speaker 1: don't talk about guys like Sheldon Rankins, who might get

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01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cocks money in the offseason, and they're having him

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Speaker 1: on his rookie contract just destroying people on the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: So they're the most complete team in football this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, anybody wagering money against

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Speaker 1: them in the playoffs is you know, I would be

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Speaker 1: interested to hear their strategy because the Saints are are

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Speaker 1: going to be very hard to beat Tonnergum one more

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Speaker 1: this week, Higher Coach. They asked you about head coach

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. I know he's capable. I know he did

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Speaker 1: a really good job in Arizona, but he has got

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Speaker 1: his hands full with Jamis Winston, doesn't he And I

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01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: see they they're going to bring in Byron Leftwich, but

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Speaker 1: they both have their hands full with Winston trying to

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Speaker 1: straighten him out. I don't think they're ready to move

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Speaker 1: on from Winston yet down there in Tampa Bay, are they? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And we were talking about this at the office yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Sort of a fascinating end of career trip for him, right.

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Speaker 1: I think Bruce wrote that book, The Quarterback Whisper. I

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01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 1: think it was last year after he retired, about you

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Speaker 1: know how he was able to mold guys like Carson

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Speaker 1: Palm and Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger. Um. But

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Speaker 1: this is by far the biggest undertaking that I think

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Speaker 1: he's done in his career in terms of elevating a

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Speaker 1: guy that's kind of already broken himself a little bit

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01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL and has reverted back to a lot

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01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,719
Speaker 1: of really poor tactics, you know, technical form and strategy

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. So good for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I give him a lot of credit at

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Speaker 1: sixty six to want to come back there, but I

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Speaker 1: guess being in Tampa Bay helps a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's almost retired when Yeah, he's not coaching Edmonton, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure. Hey, last question I have for you, Connor,

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Speaker 1: who's the most dangerous Wild Card team still left playing?

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Speaker 1: Who could do some damage here after already winning one game? Well,

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Speaker 1: I did a ranking a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: I think I put the Colts towards the bottom. So

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Speaker 1: that tells you how much you know they they thought

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Speaker 1: of me, and uh and what I what I was writing,

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Speaker 1: And I put the Cowboys towards the bottom too. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll say this. I mean the Chargers I

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Speaker 1: think were maybe the second or third best team in

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Speaker 1: football all year, and you know, just by how the

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Speaker 1: divisional stuff breaks out, they end up as a five

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Speaker 1: seat because they play in the same division as the

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Speaker 1: chief I look for them to go into New England

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Speaker 1: this weekend and give the Patriots a real legitimate fight here.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's still a lot of people on

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Speaker 1: our staff. I think we have two or three people

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Speaker 1: picking them to win the Super Bowl still, so I

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01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 1: think I think a lot of people are still feeling

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Speaker 1: the Chargers right now. All right, Connor, thanks good to talking.

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Speaker 1: They have a great weekend. Thank you very much. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Guys Connor or staff writer for Sports Illustrated, contributor

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Speaker 1: for MMQB, former NFL dot Com reporter. Uh yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: right about that. I think the Chargers, I think have

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Speaker 1: the potential to be a really a really deep playoff

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Speaker 1: run here Steven, Obviously, it starts with it continues with

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Speaker 1: a trip to Foxborough on Sunday. But they're just fattering

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Speaker 1: enough that they might be able to handle that Chargers.

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Speaker 1: It's the FC games. The Indianapolis at Kansas City and

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Speaker 1: the Chargers at the Patriots are two really good football

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Speaker 1: teams that you can see going either way. I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to be really close football games. The NFC

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01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: games look to me to be two blowouts, and I

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01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to happen or not, but

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Speaker 1: it could be just the opposite of that as well.

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Speaker 1: But the Chargers are built, very talented, and they're built

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback and the way they run their show

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01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 1: to be the kind of team that can win in

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Speaker 1: New England. It doesn't happen very often, almost never and

2234
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, but this team San Diego looks to

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01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: be built to do that. You still it's hard to

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01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 1: pick them going into New England against Bill Belichick and

2237
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady with a week's rest, you know, but there

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Speaker 1: I give them a chance. Yeah, there's a two questions

2239
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 1: about it. Hey, we're talking a lot about coaches today.

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Speaker 1: We led to get you involved. Our Twitter question today,

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Speaker 1: it's a pole. It's up there as a pole. Teams

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01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: filling their head coaching vacancies quickly, a lot of it today,

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Speaker 1: A couple today. Does an offensive minded coach translate to

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Speaker 1: success as a head coach? That's our Twitter poll. On Twitter,

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Speaker 1: sixty four percent of you say no, it does not.

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01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: Thirty six percent of you say yes it does. Give

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01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 1: us a call to discuss eight three fifty toll free

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty or

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01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter, we can look at your tweet, maybe read

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Speaker 1: it on the tweet sheet from LG. This tweet with

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Speaker 1: offensive playbooks meaning so much larger than defense. If you

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01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 1: can find a head coach that calls the offense successfully,

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01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 1: you're protected from having to change your offensive scheme if

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01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator gets grabbed by another team for their

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Speaker 1: head coach position keywords successfully. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: agree with that. I don't know if that's a factor,

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Speaker 1: if you can find a head coach that calls the

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01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 1: offense successfully. You don't have to change your offensive scheme

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01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: if your coordinator gets grabbed by and Okay, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a factor. I guess it's true.

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Speaker 1: It's sure you don't get your staff pillaged over the

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01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: year after year. And there are some that did. Andy

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01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Reid did it for a long time. Who else was

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01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 1: losing coordinate? Andy Reid has lost Naggi, He's lost McVeagh,

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01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: He's lost it was it McVeigh, Who was it? Yeah,

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01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean some of these guys, Oh Peterson, Doug Peterson.

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01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,839
Speaker 1: So he's lost a couple of playoff quarterbacks or playoff

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01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: coordinators in the last two years. Andy Reid has So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. If your head coach is doing more

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01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 1: for your staff and play calling stuff, less chance of

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Speaker 1: a drop off when you lose a good coordinator to

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Speaker 1: another squad or if he comes on becomes a head coach.

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Speaker 1: There is something to be said for that. I don't know.

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01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a factor. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's a factor or not. By the way, and

2276
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 1: Connor said this about Matt Rule the Baylor coach Rich Semini,

2277
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: who covers the Jets, says Matt rule definitely in the

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01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 1: Jets mix. He did have an interview set to take

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01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: place on Sunday. College coach nearly his entire careers, but

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01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 1: spends a lot of time watching the NFL tape. We'll

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01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: see what happens with the Jets. Okay, all right, maybe

2282
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: he's got there. You go. Man, don't know much about them.

2283
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: I do not either. All right, a breakcare, We're coming

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Speaker 1: back with more. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, twenty nine minutes

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Speaker 1: to go on the show. I know that because we've

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01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: got a huge clock in the corner. Now the other

2289
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 1: clock is broken. We've got eight clocks. Look at the

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Speaker 1: size of that clock. Now. It's killing me. It's dominating

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Speaker 1: my Talmas Holland or came through for us. All it

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Speaker 1: does is make me kee your yeah count. Basically, twenty

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Speaker 1: nine minutes, twenty eight minutes. Take a couple of phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Here Mark on the line from Buffalo, Hello, Mark, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air. Welcome Hi, Hi, guys, How are you great? Hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys just mentioned something. This is something that's stuck

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Speaker 1: in my craw and this is going back yours. I

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Speaker 1: know this is old. Now where's your crow? Let the

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01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 1: man finish reaction? Old stuff. But you mentioned Sean Payton

2300
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 1: suspension of a year. Yeah, okay, And if I'm not mistaken,

2301
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. He's always contestant. He didn't

2302
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 1: know anything about that that was going on. That was

2303
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: Greg Williams in his defense, that was doing that. He

2304
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: still got suspended for a year. I find it very

2305
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: curious that that would happen. And then when you mentioned

2306
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 1: about Spygate, and if I'm not mistaken in the articles

2307
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: that I've read, not only was Belichick aware of it,

2308
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: he actually was directing one of the videographers on how

2309
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: to get away with it and covering up the Patriot

2310
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: logo on his jacket. And if somebody approached him in

2311
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 1: question what he was doing, tell him he was doing

2312
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 1: a story for ESPN or somebody like that so they

2313
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 1: could get away with it. And as far as I remember,

2314
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,839
Speaker 1: the only thing the league did was they heavily suspend

2315
01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 1: the suspended or find the Patriots. And I don't remember

2316
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: if Belichick got suspended any games, but I know it

2317
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a year that he didn't get suspended. He did

2318
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 1: not get suspended, right and that and for me, what

2319
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots, It goes right to the integrity of the league. Well,

2320
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: it's not that's that's not all Mark. Also, there was

2321
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 1: a memo because you remember the coach involved and for

2322
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: the Jets was Eric Mangini, who had been on a

2323
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 1: Patriots staff, so he knew. Mangini knew that they were

2324
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 1: doing it, had mentioned it to the NFL and had

2325
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: picked it and had called, from what I understand it,

2326
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 1: called and said, hey, don't do that in our stadium.

2327
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: You're not gonna you know, I gonna videotape our defensive signals.

2328
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 1: The league then sent a memo to the Patriots telling

2329
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: them not to do that, and then the league caught

2330
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 1: them doing that exact thing. That that exact thing, so

2331
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: they got caught red handed. After being told not to

2332
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 1: do it, they still did it and went against the league,

2333
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: the league's knowledge of doing it, and tried to get

2334
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: away with it. So yeah, it was pretty egregious. Steve.

2335
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm a person who had season tickets from the Bills

2336
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: from the day they opened that stadium all the way

2337
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: to almost two thousand. I love the Bills, always loved

2338
01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: the Bills. But I have real problems these stays with

2339
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. And this is one of the reasons why.

2340
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 1: Because also in the article that I read, not only

2341
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: when did did they not do really anything to the

2342
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 1: Patriots for such a well, they cost him a draft pick.

2343
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: I think it cost him a number one draft pick. Okay,

2344
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 1: so they did take they hurt him on the field,

2345
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:21,800
Speaker 1: that's for sure, go ahead. They directed the league's investigators

2346
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 1: to destroy the evidence. In essence, they were more worried

2347
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 1: about their image than the integrity of their games. Well, yeah,

2348
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that, Mark, And I will say

2349
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: this too, and you're onto something with the image, because

2350
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I think the league, if you look at the two cases,

2351
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: the Spygate and the Bounties, the league was more concerned

2352
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 1: about the image, the damage done to its image by

2353
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 1: the Bounties, especially in an era when player's safety is

2354
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be paramount and uh, you know, we're concerned

2355
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 1: about player health. And then they have this example, you know,

2356
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 1: pretty much proven by what the Saints did of players

2357
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: deliberately targeting other players to injure them. Really, I think

2358
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 1: damage the NFL's reputation, which is why they reacted. Some

2359
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: might say, I might agree. Some might say they overreacted

2360
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: to what the Saints were accused of doing. And that's

2361
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: why I think there's a disparity in between the punishment

2362
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Levy down the Saints and the punishment Levy down the

2363
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 1: Patriots for Spygate. Dude, what do you think of it? Yeah,

2364
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean bounty gate. I hate the name, but bounty

2365
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: gate was was considered more serious because it dealt with

2366
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: player injuries in an era when you know they're all

2367
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 1: about we can we want to take care of our players. Yeah,

2368
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 1: and it bring up one more things for you guys.

2369
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 1: Let me just get Steve's thoughts on that before you're right.

2370
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: And I see that, I see the difference. It was

2371
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 1: players safety, and there was a hot button at the

2372
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 1: time that was different than than it was with Spygate.

2373
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: And I would think, and I don't know this, I don't,

2374
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I can't cite any specific sources, but I

2375
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 1: know that it's probably happened before that. Other coaches who

2376
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: have left staffs and come back and said hey, listen,

2377
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. Don't do this, and I know

2378
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 1: you guys are doing that, don't do that to our

2379
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: thing in the league. And that it was not uncommon

2380
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 1: for a club to say, hey, they're doing this, don't

2381
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 1: let them do that, and because they'll have members of

2382
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 1: their staff cross pollinate and give them a heads up.

2383
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 1: So the thing that happened with with Spygate wasn't so

2384
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 1: out of the unusual as the bounty gate. Go ahead, Mark. Okay,

2385
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: one other thing that I never hear anybody discussed, and

2386
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 1: I'd really like your guys opinions on it real quick.

2387
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:29,200
Speaker 1: Today's NFL instant replay is a huge issue. Okay. And

2388
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 1: what I'm not mistaken, the regional and national telecasts have

2389
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 1: many more cameras at those games, and they have all

2390
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 1: kinds of different angles where if you're just no no,

2391
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 1: no consequence game in everyday game, you may have only

2392
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 1: upwards of four cameras. Well, it'd be my eight cameras.

2393
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right there. On a Super Bowl like

2394
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna have here, they'll have twenty at least twenty cameras,

2395
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 1: probably way more than that. Plus they'll have a skycam,

2396
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 1: and they may have three sixty round camera as well,

2397
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: which means they'll have a computer system that will have

2398
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 1: like thirty six cameras in a circle around the stadium

2399
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 1: that they can get all those angles and move the

2400
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 1: point of view of the camera as you speak. So, yeah,

2401
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 1: you're right. A regular regional game will have anywhere from

2402
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:17,600
Speaker 1: eight about eight cameras, and a number one game, a

2403
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 1: Monday night game as Tuesday, a Thursday night game or

2404
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 1: whatever primetime game will have twenty will have twenty cameras.

2405
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: So your point is equally right, exactly the system right there,

2406
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: no question. Yeah, that's correct, and that's that was addressed,

2407
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 1: and that was one of the problems that the league had,

2408
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,840
Speaker 1: and coaches had and owners had um when they set

2409
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: it up, they knew that it was going to be

2410
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: uh disproportionate in some games where they wouldn't have an

2411
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 1: angle that would give a team a an advantage or disadvantage.

2412
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 1: The thing and the thing that you have to remember though,

2413
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 1: both teams only have eight cameras, not just one, so

2414
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: it can go either way, and it could it could

2415
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 1: help or hurt, and it's just as much of a

2416
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 1: chance of it hurting as one team as the other.

2417
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:08,080
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's and I get it. I mean

2418
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 1: it's it's not fair. I mean it's not fair. The

2419
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have the angle, does that mean

2420
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: you should throw away instant replay? I don't. I don't

2421
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,880
Speaker 1: think so I do. So there you go another reason

2422
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 1: I think you should throw away you anything else? Mark?

2423
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: Mark's gone? Okay, thanks Mark. Time now for NFL True

2424
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 1: and False, brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's

2425
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:30,840
Speaker 1: artists and Cheese. So Josh McDaniel is gonna stick with

2426
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Um. There's a story up on

2427
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 1: the w EEI website in Boston that says enough, Josh

2428
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:41,200
Speaker 1: McDaniel's flirting with head coaching jobs is growing old. And

2429
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 1: the part of the copy says, the man who interviewed

2430
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 1: for more jobs and anyone can count in recent years

2431
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 1: only got one interview this time around, Josh McDaniels. They

2432
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: see the NFL that's caught onto his acting teams don't

2433
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 1: want any part of it anymore. Josh McDaniels, his head

2434
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 1: coaching interviews growing old. I'd say true, right, Yeah, of

2435
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 1: course it's true. And what he did the cults last

2436
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: year is inexcusable, by the way, and that's part of

2437
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 1: it too. But yeah, it's getting old. Is act is old,

2438
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know that anybody needs to hold

2439
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 1: up their whole coaching process, the interview process, to wait

2440
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: and see what Josh mcgannel is going to do. He

2441
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: has been a head coach before, by the way, that

2442
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 1: didn't go so well, so there is evidence to show

2443
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 1: that he might not be a successful head coach. True. Absolutely,

2444
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 1: it's getting old, absolutely, and I think you're right. I

2445
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 1: think that. I think as much as anything, a lot

2446
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 1: of these had these candidates have different agendas when they

2447
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 1: go in, whether they think they're going to particularly if

2448
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: they think they're not going to get the job or

2449
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: don't have a chance of getting the job or whatever.

2450
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:44,400
Speaker 1: And I know this as well the Patriots and other teams.

2451
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: It's it's commonplace to bring it. Like say, for instance,

2452
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 1: you cut a veteran player for inch the Bill's release,

2453
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams or Lorenzo Alexander or one of their top

2454
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 1: players or a player that's been around for a while,

2455
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,120
Speaker 1: they will bring him in for a workout, and the

2456
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 1: workout consists of bringing them in and grilling them about

2457
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 1: what they the defensive schemes and the calls and the

2458
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:12,080
Speaker 1: verbiage that the team that cut them use. They will

2459
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 1: use it as a scouting department and they'll scout the guy,

2460
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 1: and the guy I'll just you know, answer the questions.

2461
02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 1: Here's why we use this word, Here's what we were

2462
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 1: doing on this play, Here's what we're doing on that play.

2463
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 1: And that's they use it as a scouting technique. And

2464
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: I think some of these head coaching candidates, I think

2465
02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 1: some of that goes on there. I think there's some

2466
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 1: different motivations other than just finding a head coach. Particularly

2467
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:36,640
Speaker 1: for some of the candidates, they want to go through

2468
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: the process. Some of them, the young guys, they want

2469
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 1: to get through it and see what they're gonna need

2470
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:44,680
Speaker 1: to know to actually get the job in future interviews.

2471
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I don't think I never thought for

2472
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: a minute Sean McDaniels or Josh McDaniels was going to

2473
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 1: go anywhere from New England this year. NFL True or

2474
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 1: False Part two? Ready for this one. Trevor Lawrence, Clemson quarterback,

2475
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 1: his dominance Monday and I puts NFL Draft to eligibility

2476
02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 1: rule into questions. Some people suggest that a Sports Illustrated note,

2477
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence dominated on college football as biggest stage, but

2478
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 1: he will need to wait two more seasons before he

2479
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: can put his name in the NFL draft. Should that

2480
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:18,160
Speaker 1: be the case? Yeah, that should be the case. That's

2481
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 1: the rule. That's what I think. His dominance Monday night

2482
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 1: puts the NFL draft eligibility rule into question. No. False,

2483
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:26,960
Speaker 1: It shouldn't. He had a great game. He had a

2484
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 1: great game, best player on the field, a great, bright

2485
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:31,840
Speaker 1: college football future ahead of him the next two years.

2486
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 1: You don't change rules because the guy played great in

2487
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 1: the National title game. There are other quarterbacks who've had

2488
02:05:36,720 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 1: good National championship games. You don't change the rule. And

2489
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 1: if you want to change the rule, you don't do

2490
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,200
Speaker 1: it for one guy. No, I don't think it puts

2491
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 1: the eligibility rule into question at all. False. You don't

2492
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,640
Speaker 1: even do it for ten guys. Right that you're talking

2493
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 1: about thousands and thousands and thousands of guys playing college football,

2494
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 1: all of which who become eligible for the NFL at

2495
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 1: the time of their eligibility is over as a junior

2496
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 1: or senior. Because one guy has a good game, or

2497
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't. If one guy's a good season, if herschel

2498
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 1: Walker type kid comes out and has a freshman year

2499
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 1: like herschel Walker did when he was a and you

2500
02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: should have won the Heisman. He didn't. But so you

2501
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: don't change the rules for that guy. That guy's an exception,

2502
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 1: no question about it. It seems unfair to him. But

2503
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: you know what, everybody else is under the same rules.

2504
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 1: They apply to everybody equally. There's no reason to change

2505
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 1: the rules for one guy. And by the way, too,

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Speaker 1: the XFL has already said the Hey, our draft rules

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02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 1: are different. If we feel like drafting that kid, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna draft him. So he's not stupid enough to play

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Speaker 1: into the x I don't think so, but it's out there,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. I agree with you, Murph, Yeah

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Speaker 1: you don't yet. That rules not in question. And finally,

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Speaker 1: the NFL threw or false Part three. The Colts this

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02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 1: week against Kansas City should lean on the run game,

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Speaker 1: not lean on Andrew Luck. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: See you? Now, it's a quarterback driven league. Now he

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02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 1: can he can, he can hand it off he wants to.

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02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:04,880
Speaker 1: But you can bet that they're gonna have the play

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02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:08,280
Speaker 1: the way it works is Andrew Luck is gonna he

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02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:10,520
Speaker 1: may check two runs. If he checks two runs, you're

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02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 1: still leaning on Andrew Luck to check to the run

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02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 1: and not the pass. And there's no question that the

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02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 1: Colts are gonna use their running game to a large

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02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 1: degree in this game if they can. If it's working,

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02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 1: they will stick with it. And so, yeah, no, I

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02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 1: think Andrew Luck is still the key no matter what

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Speaker 1: Marlon Mack does. So you say false false, I say

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02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: false too, And I think the key is balanced because

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck can throw it and we'll throw it, and

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02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: he's got targets to throw too. But you do need

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02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,840
Speaker 1: the run game. Marlon Mack has run for one twenty

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02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 1: two yards and ten touchdowns in the last eleven games

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02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 1: his turnaround, and it started with the game against the

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Speaker 1: Bills back on October twenty first. But the way he's

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Speaker 1: come around is really provided balance to the Indianapolis offense.

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Speaker 1: And that's what doing. Did you know that the Colts

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02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 1: are the third team in league history to make the

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Speaker 1: postseason after starting one in five And if they get

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02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 1: to this, if they get to the championship game, where

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02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 1: did this stat I came across this? They'd be the

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02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: first one team that started the season one in five

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02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 1: to get to a championship game. That would be something, Steve.

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02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 1: That would be really it really would And you know what,

2543
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 1: they started playing football the right, not that they weren't

2544
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 1: playing at the right, but they started getting the results

2545
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: for the hard work they were doing. They weren't playing bad,

2546
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 1: bad football when they were one in five, but they

2547
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 1: lost some games that, as we've all seen, you play

2548
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 1: good and still lose. It's a tough league to win in.

2549
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 1: But the fact that they stuck with it in those

2550
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 1: dark days and their head coach got them through it

2551
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 1: and they started clicking. They fought their way back into

2552
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:41,600
Speaker 1: the race and certainly are in the Division round of

2553
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:43,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs headed to Kansas City. They can do it.

2554
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean that they are playing good enough football to

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Speaker 1: get everything they ever wanted out of this season, and

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02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 1: that includes a super Bowl victory if they win Sunday

2557
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 1: against Kansas City, not an easy task. They'd be the

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02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:56,720
Speaker 1: first team that want that lost five of their first

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02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 1: six to play for a conference championship. That's good for them, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right? Good coming back during the regular during the season,

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Speaker 1: so it fits their head coach. Yeah, right, Yep, there

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, here

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Speaker 1: we go. What have we learned? It is presented by

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Speaker 1: of different opinions today, a lot of talk about the

2571
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:48,160
Speaker 1: coaching moves around the National Football League. A lot of

2572
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 1: coaching moves today to talk about. As a matter of fact,

2573
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 1: we had James Palmer on. James Palmer from NFL Network

2574
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:58,040
Speaker 1: talked to us about the Colts and this matchup coming

2575
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 1: up on Saturday at the thirty five the Colts in

2576
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City to play the Chiefs. James Palmer on how

2577
02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 1: the Colts can keep Patrick Mahomes off the scoreboard. Maybe

2578
02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 1: I think Andrew can run an offense and run that

2579
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,240
Speaker 1: group methodically enough to where honestly he could have the

2580
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 1: ability to be patient if that makes sense with his

2581
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 1: drives and have drives last and make sure that he

2582
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 1: takes time off the clock. He's so good also at

2583
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage to where he can sit there

2584
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 1: and work things how he wants and manipulate and take

2585
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 1: time to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. There you go,

2586
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Speaker 1: James Palmer. We also had counter Or on counter Or

2587
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Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated to talk about Sean McVay and the

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02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 1: Rams and the pressure to keep winning in Los Angeles

2589
02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 1: with that team. If they lose this season, you know,

2590
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: they've sort of stumbled down the stretch. He's got guys

2591
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,280
Speaker 1: on that team and Donikin sue to keep the league

2592
02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 1: who are older than him. You know, how does he

2593
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:58,080
Speaker 1: handle a disappointing playoff loss? Can he corral that locker

2594
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 1: room again? Can he face people who's all of a

2595
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:03,520
Speaker 1: sudden thinks that he's not as smart or not as

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02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 1: talented as they thought he was a year ago. And

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02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: so I think that certainly the rise has come, you know,

2598
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 1: with his ideas offensively and what he's been able to

2599
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:15,200
Speaker 1: do with quarterbacks. But I think we're going to find

2600
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 1: a lot out about him in terms of the administrative aspect,

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02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 1: how much of a motivator is he? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: easy when you're winning games, but when you start losing

2603
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 1: a lot of games that people expect you to win,

2604
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:28,640
Speaker 1: that's when you find out, I think, how good of

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02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 1: a head coach you really are. That's a really good

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02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: point made that counter Or from Sports Illustrated Steve. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, they're talented, the Rams, but they've got

2608
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 1: some They've got some guys who can stir the pile

2609
02:11:39,720 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 1: a little bit if things don't go well, including in

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02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue, and to keep to leave if if they

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Speaker 1: were to lose, If they were to surprisingly lose this week,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that that'll be the biggest challenge of Sean

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02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 1: mcbay's early NFL career. Yeah, I think so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they didn't win the Super Bowl last year either, so

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02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 1: they've been through this. But then again, you know, in

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02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 1: Dominan Sue is a newcomer. And but the way they

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Speaker 1: started this year, Yeah, the people were crowning them super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champions back in and they looked at they looked

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Speaker 1: at but so did the Chiefs, you know, And that's

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Speaker 1: we've seen this before where teams start out, and particularly

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02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 1: from the Chiefs, but I think, yeah, the rest of

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02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 1: these guys as these chips start to fall. I'm even

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02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 1: now we're looking as we're coming to the close of

2624
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 1: the show the Jets, there's no word on who that's

2625
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna be over there, right, you know, Adam Gase, Mike McCarthy,

2626
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 1: Matt Rule or somebody else. I mean that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the headlines that they've got articles and

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02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: they've make a case for all of those guys, and

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02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:37,920
Speaker 1: nobody's saying anything, which is almost impossible in New York, right,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think they're close to making a decision.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get you're gonna get about it. Probably a

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02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:44,480
Speaker 1: six or eight hour window between the time they make

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Speaker 1: the decision and then announce that there were going to

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Speaker 1: find out who it is. And that hasn't even started

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02:12:48,640 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 1: yet for the Jets. So as you see MSG. Cliff

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02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:54,400
Speaker 1: Kingsbury to the Cardinals, Freddie Kitchens staying at the Browns

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02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 1: as head coach, Vic Fangio to the Broncos, Matt lafleurs

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Speaker 1: the Packers, and Bruce Arians back in the coach ranks

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Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay, which leaves the Dolphins, the Jets, and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals as the last of those eight teams that

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02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,760
Speaker 1: are trying to get a head coach. The Dolphins the

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Speaker 1: Jets may be looking at the same guys except for

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Speaker 1: Adam Gays of course. And the Bengals they've only got

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Speaker 1: too it looks like they've got two candidates. Hugh Jackson

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Speaker 1: advanced Joseph Yeah, um, this will all be I think

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Speaker 1: that's all be decided by tomorrow. Really, I think it

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Speaker 1: might take the end of the week, you know, I

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Speaker 1: will I will say maybe they're maybe they may be

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Speaker 1: waiting for the playoffs end. Yeah, well, there might be

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Speaker 1: guys that they want to talk to that are out

2651
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:37,640
Speaker 1: available exactly. I also think that VIC fan Joe Hire

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02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,440
Speaker 1: is interesting and probably a solid hire for Denver. I

2653
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: recall going back to the summertime August when the Bills

2654
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 1: went to Chicago to play the Bears, talking to Sean

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02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:49,600
Speaker 1: McDermott before that game, that preseason game about Fangio and

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Speaker 1: Lo and behold season over than the number one defense

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um. He did a good job with

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Speaker 1: that team, and he's done a good job over several years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about coach kind of I'm Vic Fanji,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, yeah, all right, he's not thirty

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Speaker 1: two year assistant. Yeah, something was missing. Yeah. Hey. Our

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Speaker 1: production assistants George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, honald Or, Kelly Rude,

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