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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, they flowing down the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wingstuff Where Flavor

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Speaker 3: gets its Wings.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Welcome to the show Hollow look alive at Tostitos

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Speaker 4: Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 4: where it is.

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Speaker 3: Ninety three degrees. The high is ninety five, it feels

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Speaker 3: like one hundred. The low tonight is seventy five.

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Speaker 5: And it kind of feel like the gang is back together,

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Speaker 5: but not quite across from me.

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Speaker 6: I got, I got Kurt.

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Speaker 5: Three pump, two pumps, three pumps three in all season

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Speaker 5: three pumps, you know, all season three pumps. Daniels on

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Speaker 5: the phone, the Great Nathaniel, Nate Newton, Shannon Gross in

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Speaker 5: the back Paul and I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.

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Speaker 5: Together we make Hanging with the Boys the sports talk

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Speaker 5: equivalent brow people.

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Speaker 6: When we speak Brocky.

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Speaker 3: Each and every show by Wingstop Where Flavor Gets its

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Speaker 3: wee do try the new Fries still haven't done it yet,

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Speaker 3: according to Jesse there doublemb.

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Speaker 5: Paul said, he says, being on, you know, being on

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Speaker 5: covering our show. Now, he said, we made him go

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Speaker 5: to wingstop. He went to wing stop the other day.

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Speaker 5: What'd you take, Paul?

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Speaker 6: Wait, that's what the young people call good gas.

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Speaker 7: I I know, I know, Hey, Ny, before we get

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Speaker 7: to you, tell you a little story about what's developed

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Speaker 7: here live in the studio.

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Speaker 3: You know, Kurt told us in the rundown he probably

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Speaker 3: wasn't gonna wasn't gonna be here yesterday or Monday, probably

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Speaker 3: won't be here Friday. Jesse slid over into your seat

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Speaker 3: on Monday for camera purposes. Paul asked him to get

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Speaker 3: over here with the wide shot you could see, you know,

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Speaker 3: see the two of us. Jesse evicted Kurt and he

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Speaker 3: squatted in his seat and he would not give it up.

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Speaker 3: Now it's actually Nate seat. So we'll see what happens

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Speaker 3: when they comes back.

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Speaker 5: To Noays getting to run together on me man, I

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Speaker 5: thought Kurt said he wasn't going to be here today,

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Speaker 5: so I sat here so that you know, we camera purposes.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I wasn't we'll see like.

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Speaker 8: It's Tuesday, right, Like no, man, I was like, yeah, Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: He's got that lot going on here. I got a

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Speaker 5: bunch of things going on.

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Speaker 3: Like dang, so are you here Friday, Kurt? I doubt it, Okay,

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Speaker 3: don't know for sure.

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Speaker 6: Can I sit here? Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean you can sit there whenever you want.

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Speaker 3: You just might have a challengerbout two weeks. I won't

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Speaker 3: challenge him, so puting Paul's on you.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna hurt speaking to him.

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton, you know you got exposed to the multiverse yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Tell us we heard all kinds of bad things about

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Speaker 3: the run game and the offensive line, and what did

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Speaker 3: you see firsthand from someone? Whitney sing it in person?

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Speaker 6: And let me say this before you starting it.

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Speaker 5: I held off so much because I wanted to call

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Speaker 5: him yesterday as soon as the practice was over, and

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Speaker 5: I said, no, I'll just wait. I'll just wait for

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Speaker 5: tomorrow and I'll just let him tell us. So I'm

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Speaker 5: I am anticipating this myself.

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Speaker 6: I called some other folks, but I said, I'm gonna wait.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna wait.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear glad you did that so we

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Speaker 3: can see it, hear it all together.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Is it gonna be a long season, Nate, Yes, it's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Still be a long season. But what I saw yesterday

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Speaker 2: scheming us. They were a living further along in their

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Speaker 2: scheming than we were doing. We were staying as basic

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Speaker 2: But you go back and get with the coach and

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Speaker 2: times guys were on their men, but they would do that.

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Speaker 2: But the Rams had an extra man. Now, granted, their

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Speaker 2: of tempo and they brought it. Poonaford made some place

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Speaker 2: you know, they you know, over six the five seventy plays,

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Speaker 2: just doing a lot of yapping. I mean a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of he never stopped talking. So but it was

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Speaker 2: a good thing for your left tackle, Nate Thomas. He did, okay,

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Speaker 2: your right guard he got baptized a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: he got his phrase in too. It's just they could

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Speaker 2: They never knew who they was coming off on, seemed like,

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Speaker 2: and there was always a step slow. Talking to the

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Speaker 2: offensive line coach, they just got to pick up their speed,

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Speaker 2: They got to pick up there, They got to pick

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Speaker 2: And that's just more about was scheming and understanding who

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Speaker 2: you went into yesterday. Like I said, these guys looked

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Speaker 2: you know, but you got to know what you're looking

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Speaker 2: at on film. The high tight ends. I love Coach Wells,

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Speaker 2: London Wells, but bruh, they got to pick it up now,

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Speaker 2: My friends.

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Speaker 5: I was listening to Coach Schottenheimer do his pressure right

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Speaker 5: before our show came on, and one of the things

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Speaker 5: saw was that the cowboys had their pads high, meaning

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Speaker 5: just they just had a lot of high paths, not

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Speaker 5: Did you see did you see some of that on

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Speaker 2: The well I didn't see a lot of the defense.

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Speaker 2: I was just focused in on offensive line because those

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Speaker 2: They was getting scorched up on the past. But for

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Speaker 2: our offense, yes, they're gonna have to get their pad

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Speaker 2: know who they're coming off to. And I think it

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Speaker 2: Conry just coach is saying. We we stayed as basic

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Speaker 2: The Rams are not on that level. They are they're

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Speaker 2: there on that next level. So they can run a

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Speaker 2: looks and they can confuse your offensive line. So I

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Speaker 2: talked to coach Riley, the offensive line coach. You need

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Speaker 2: they got to just get the bases now of who

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Speaker 2: they are individually. Pick up the speed, pick up their physicalness.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you are confident and you know where

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Speaker 2: your role and your at your position, you play faster. Uh.

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Speaker 2: These guys didn't play fast yesterday. They played okay, but

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Speaker 2: not fast and not aggressive, you know. And that's what

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Speaker 2: your right tackle gotta pick up. And that's what your

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Speaker 2: left tackle I mean your right guard gotta pick up

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Speaker 2: in your left tackle has to pick up the speed

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Speaker 2: of their game. They're gonna be okay, but it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be some work. Foretas, this ain't gonna be no easy roll. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be some work.

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Speaker 8: It sounds a little concerning because we've been hearing about

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Speaker 8: what great pace Schottenheimer's had the practices going, and it's

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Speaker 8: been a you know, all out guys running this and that.

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Speaker 8: Now you're telling us that they were way behind what

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Speaker 2: Are not just a step, just a step. It's college

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Speaker 2: is knowing. It's knowing, like it's certain things about if

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Speaker 2: Jesse wrote a story, I can look at it and

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Speaker 2: read it a thousand times and not pick up what's

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Speaker 2: suggest you need to punct your weight here, you need

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Speaker 2: to cut this off. We got to take this out.

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Speaker 2: It's just knowing who you are, what you're working with,

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Speaker 2: and and and and and being confident. They did not

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Speaker 2: look confident. The Rams look like they've been there, folk

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Speaker 2: fellas they just did. The y'all knew where they was going,

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Speaker 2: different pace and that looks better. You know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: looked dis on it. They did not look this on it.

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Speaker 2: They looked like even when the Cowboys made plays on them,

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Speaker 2: you can say, Okay, this safety blow, this blow, blow,

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Speaker 2: this job or this god, this corner didn't didn't cover

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Speaker 2: right you. You couldn't say that every time for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, okay, who made that mistake? And

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Speaker 2: everybody kind of looking around when it did happen they

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Speaker 2: had some winning plays. Now they had some winning play

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Speaker 2: The Cowboy has win in plays, but it wasn't as

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Speaker 2: many as the Rams, which for me was expected.

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Speaker 5: Is this normal for a team, Nate in your perspective

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Speaker 5: that is under a new head coach and a new

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Speaker 5: differensive coordinator or should they be further along or are

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Speaker 5: they right on pace to where they need to be

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Speaker 5: kind of clicking on all cylinders by week one?

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Speaker 2: We all know that until we do something and we

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Speaker 2: do it against people that are equal or better, you

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Speaker 2: don't know what the pace is. Now. The good players

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Speaker 2: they're gonna adapt to this pace. You know the play

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Speaker 2: if you are got any dog in you, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: adapt and you're gonna pick up and you're gonna get better.

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Speaker 2: To me, I'm not gonna panic until four or five,

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Speaker 2: six games into the year. I'm just not. These guys

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Speaker 2: got to be given a fair chance to grow. And

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Speaker 2: and I'm you know, and you know, like Kurt said,

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Speaker 2: know the well, I'm bringing it. Oh my god, what

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Speaker 2: is we gonna win a game? Yeah? I think we'll

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Speaker 2: win a game. But it's gonna take some time, you know.

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Speaker 2: But in today's NFL that is something you don't have.

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Speaker 2: It's time. You know, people want an instant right now.

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Speaker 2: Man Port in Alas.

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Speaker 8: What games to figure it out?

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Speaker 2: That might be too late, not figure it out, but

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Speaker 2: just get better, get get better, get get get unity,

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Speaker 2: you know, get get to playing together. You have a

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Speaker 2: and team run and team pass. So they open it

435
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Speaker 2: up getting after it. So from what the litt bit

436
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Speaker 2: I saw, those three guys stood out. I want to

437
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Speaker 2: say something good about the number forty one Donovan.

438
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, his duke can run. His dude, his speed makes

440
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Speaker 2: up he make a mistake, his speed makes up for it. Man.

441
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Speaker 2: He's he's active, he's everywhere. He's he's kind of like

442
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Speaker 2: at the Marven overshone type guy, but a little bit thicker,

443
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Speaker 2: a little bit bulky, not as tall and loan. But

444
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Speaker 2: this kid is doing Okay, my man didn't show up

445
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Speaker 2: as much as I thought it would Sam Williams. But

446
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Speaker 2: I didn't see a whole lot of the defense, So

447
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say he didn't show up at all,

448
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Speaker 2: but just a little bit that I saw, you know,

449
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Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't make that impact that he's been

450
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Speaker 2: he been making all during camp, you know.

451
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Speaker 8: So dumb question, no questions, dumb question questions. I think

452
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Speaker 8: I know the answer to it, but I want to check. So,

453
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Speaker 8: when they're doing these joint practices, they're going simultaneously. So offense, yeah,

454
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Speaker 8: the defense and all that.

455
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there are two fields are going right now,

456
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Speaker 5: So think about now. Sometimes they'll bring everybody together to

457
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Speaker 5: go good on good, right, but you'll have uh dak

458
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Speaker 5: in the offense over with their ones defense, and then

459
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Speaker 5: you'll have U Jimmy Garoppolo and the Rams offense going

460
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Speaker 5: over with you know, the Cowboys defense on separate fields.

461
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Speaker 5: And then then then at some point in time they

462
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Speaker 5: bring it together and that may do ten twelve plays

463
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Speaker 5: where everybody's right there, it's one field, everybody's on the sideline,

464
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Speaker 5: and then you kind of go from there.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and they only did that for special teams

466
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Speaker 2: to kind of what when the first special team period

467
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Speaker 2: they went through because unlike uh, unlike past practices one

468
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Speaker 2: on one on one pass rush, one on seven on

469
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Speaker 2: UH seven on seven UH wide receivers and all of

470
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Speaker 2: that and one on one dB receive, it was all

471
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Speaker 2: team team one, team two and some other feature more pass,

472
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Speaker 2: some other featured more runs. Then they had the reds on.

473
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Speaker 2: Then they had the two minute drill, but mostly all

474
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Speaker 2: eleven on level.

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Speaker 8: Do the do the ones get most of the work

476
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Speaker 8: or are they still kind of protecting.

477
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Speaker 2: Them minute they go four ones got work, all the

478
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Speaker 2: everybody there ones and our ones on president. I didn't

479
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Speaker 2: see was their quarterback.

480
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Speaker 6: He's out so so.

481
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I didn't see him.

482
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Speaker 5: Staffords out with the back injury taking the epidural. They

483
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Speaker 5: say he's been out with the back injury and hasn't

484
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Speaker 5: practiced a snap.

485
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Speaker 2: We need to stay away from mama mama working.

486
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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, he hasn't practiced a snap yet. This training

487
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Speaker 5: came so uh. They trying to conserve and preserve that

488
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Speaker 5: back for at some point in time when the season starts.

489
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Speaker 2: Off to do three pump.

490
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Speaker 3: Warm we know where tiring puts this towel where do

491
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Speaker 3: you put your tail?

492
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Speaker 6: Keep the next strong?

493
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Speaker 3: Hey, Nate, I know you don't like to get into

494
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Speaker 3: this kind of talk all the time, but this is

495
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Speaker 3: kind of a big deal. And maybe you have some

496
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Speaker 3: insight because you've been behind that closed door with mister

497
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: Jones years and years ago, and you know, I'm sure

498
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: his strategy has stayed pretty much the same over those years.

499
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: What what do you get and being out there around

500
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: the guys and you know, the team, what are your

501
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: what's your gut feeling on this contract thing from Afar?

502
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: It kind of seems like it's starting to get just

503
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: from what I hear and and the way Jerry's talking

504
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: about it. He seems a little agitated, you know, almost

505
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: almost condescending kind of tone towards Micah and you know,

506
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: taking little digs here and there. Is that just part

507
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: of the showmanship and the gamesmanship of this contract negotiation

508
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: or is this thing got potential to be bad and

509
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: not m could not be on the field the first.

510
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: Game with Jerry? It is you know, I mean, fellas

511
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: for us, you know, you're telling you from one hundred

512
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: and fifty to two hundred million dollars, that's the world

513
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: to us. But Missus Jones have been been there and

514
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: done that, and you know I'm not you know, I'm

515
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: not taking nothing away from Michael. He chronicled everything well

516
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: when you first read his story four or five days,

517
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: how he wanted to be a cowboy, and how he

518
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: did this, how he was ready last year and the

519
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: year before, and he you know, he didn't care about

520
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: at that time, you know, but all of this man said,

521
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: he never his agent never talked to mister Jones, and

522
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: mister Jones never talked to him. It was always through Michael.

523
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: Now I don't know what Michael and mister Jones talked

524
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: about it. I'm not gonna even act like I do.

525
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: But Missus Jones has all the rights to Michael for

526
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: the next three years. And so now the only question

527
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: I have, because the only question I have, is Michael

528
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: tough enough, you know, to say I'll just play seven

529
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: games this year, I'll miss most of the season because

530
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: until mister Jones is ready, you know, to give up

531
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: the money or to whatever it is, it is what

532
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: it is. That's how everybody like nature like you're unconcerned.

533
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: I am. I mean, you know, I'm not getting none

534
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: of that. I ain't gonna see a penny of that,

535
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: you know. But I know this team is better with Michael.

536
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 2: I know this team can practice a little bit different

537
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: with Michael. I know this team will play a little

538
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: bit different with Michael. But other than that, fellas, I stay,

539
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: I stay my distance. When I see mister Jones, I say, hey,

540
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: thank you for having me out. Mister Jones. You know,

541
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: I go on about my business. I speak to Michael, Hey, Michael,

542
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: how you doing today, brother beastrong. I go on about

543
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: my business because this one time, bro, I really it

544
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's ugly, and the fans of

545
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: cheering car don't Benko, mister Jones, don't be Nico. You know,

546
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: Joon could be Miko and everybody else. He owns the

547
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: whole Keeton caboodle. You know, me Kodo own thathing. Mister

548
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: Jones own it all. So I be just laughing. It's

549
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: fun for me, it's fun. I know for mister Jones,

550
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: it may not be fun. And for man. I know

551
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: it ain't fun for for Michael because you ought to

552
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: see sometime when he's walking off the field and Jones talking,

553
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: he boy, he'd be like if if if the I

554
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: could only speak. You know, yeah, he'd be walking on

555
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: the field. He'll try not to add like he looking

556
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: over there, jest, but you know it. But the man

557
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: got your money. Man got your money, got your money.

558
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: You can't be cut.

559
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 10: H Well.

560
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: I hope for the fan base in Dallas that they

561
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: get this worked out, because we can't take two of

562
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: these in one year. I mean, as as Dallas sports fans,

563
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: we cannot take two in one year. They might burn

564
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: this city down if that happens. Man, I mean, you know, hey,

565
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: welcome Rangers and Stars number one and the too.

566
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: Baby.

567
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: Oh well, Nate, thanks for spending two segments with us. Man,

568
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: we miss you. When you're coming back.

569
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Hey man, I don't know, man, I just hey, hey,

570
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: say out here this Michael.

571
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Jesse. You'll be out with Sunday Sunday.

572
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: Sunday coming out Sunday this Sunday. Oh man, I was

573
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: gonna come home, but I may stay now if you're

574
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: really coming, I may stay.

575
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: Brother.

576
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 6: My flight. I'll tell you my flight lands, my flight.

577
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 6: I'll be there Sunday.

578
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, if y'all, if y'all are both out there, we

579
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: may talk to Chris about just letting y'all do the

580
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: whole show from California. That'd be a better guys.

581
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: Man.

582
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 6: We need y'all, not the same thing they.

583
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that we need y'all. We're a team, bro, Yeah,

584
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: good team.

585
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got talk.

586
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about we got but Jess our Michael.

587
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: You know, but all the shows he's doing, he's our Micael.

588
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: You don't need more money.

589
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: Jesse is becoming very familiar with contract negotiation. I am

590
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: you didn't have to negotiate many in the league. It

591
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: was just like what you're gonna pay me?

592
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Speaker 5: All right?

593
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: I'm good.

594
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 5: Now, Now I get a chance to negotiate contracts. Now

595
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: I get to say whether or not I want to

596
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: take that deal or not.

597
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: All right, we appreciate it.

598
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: Brother.

599
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: We will talk to you Friday. Friday.

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00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you bet, Paul tail Paul be ready to tep.

601
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: We do have a team here.

602
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: All right, we'll do all right. We'll be right back

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00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,719
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666
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Speaker 2: What?

667
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: Any concerns jump out from you? You encouraged by what

668
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: Nate had to say because you know last year, we

669
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: know how he felt. Sounds like it's just kind of

670
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: things you can and Kurt, I know what you were asking.

671
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: Is it a bad thing that Shoddy only watched the

672
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 3: offense as the head coach? Jesse? That stuff you coach

673
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: from the film? Right, you go back and look at

674
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: the defense or do you need to have eyes on

675
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: the defense too? Does he need to be a walking

676
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: head coach?

677
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 6: Nah, he's an office portinator. Yeah, so trusting your staff.

678
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: He's gonna be on the offensive side like that. That's

679
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 5: his that's his baby. He's trusting ibra flus to do

680
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 5: what he has to do. And you know, I played

681
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 5: for I played for two coaches here in Dallas who

682
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 5: were opposite sides of the ball. When I was here

683
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 5: with Wayne Phillips, who was a defensive guy, you know,

684
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: he spent a lot of his time with the defense.

685
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 5: You know, he would come in and have his early

686
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: morning you know, team meetings. But when we broke that

687
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 5: thing down, oh, coach Phillips was down there at the defense.

688
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 5: You know, he may come down there and Picky's head

689
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: into the offensive meeting room every now and again and

690
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: may come and sit in five ten minutes. And the

691
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: same thing. When Jason Garrett took over offensive guy, he

692
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 5: was a head coach. He spent his time doing the

693
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 5: head coach duties in the big team meeting. When we

694
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: broke up offense defense, he was down he was down

695
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 5: there with us in the offense and the defensive coordinator

696
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: was doing his thing, the same thing at practice. So

697
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: the the whatever the heck, unless he's a head walk

698
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 5: around head coach, unless he's you know, Dan Campbell or

699
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: Mike to those type of coaches that don't call a

700
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 5: specific side of the ball, they're gonna be walking around.

701
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 5: But those who don't are gonna spend time on the

702
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 5: side of the ball which they're familiar with. They're the

703
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball. Coach, he's gonna be more

704
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 5: on the defensive side. He'll come and peek his head

705
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: on the offensive field and and kind of stand on

706
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 5: there a little bit. But if he's an offensive guy,

707
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 5: he's gonna be in that offensive side watching those things,

708
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: really looking at what's happening, because that's the side that

709
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 5: he knows should make.

710
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 8: It harder at at all, because there's you don't have

711
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 8: a singular voice that can kind of like, what's he

712
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 8: gonna tell the defense to do? You know?

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Speaker 6: Nothing?

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Speaker 8: Right, So, I mean it almost seems like you have

715
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Speaker 8: a division of two and it's it's too late in

716
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Speaker 8: the game.

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Speaker 3: When when Wade was here, did he have anything to

718
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: say about the offense? Nope, So that's not abnormal.

719
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Speaker 5: Nope, nothing, he had nothing to say about the offense.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's just say we have a day where

721
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 5: offense is jumping off sides. He jumps saying we gotta

722
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 5: be better guys, you know, like, but he ain't talking

723
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Speaker 5: about nothing ext he don't know what the hell going

724
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Speaker 5: on next those and vice versa.

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Speaker 8: You know, as an offensive player, would you be like, whatever, way.

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Speaker 6: No, I still a head coach. I still a head coach,

727
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

728
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Speaker 5: But I do think like Shody understands, I'm Shody would

729
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 5: only be yelling at the defense of guys if there's

730
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 5: a penalty, if there's something stupid that happens a god,

731
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, other than that, he's

732
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Speaker 5: he's solely dependent upon Matt Eberflus being the one who

733
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Speaker 5: controls his temple. And then when they go and watch

734
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 5: the film as a unit, as a coaching unit, and

735
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 5: you know, they're watching things, and he's listening to what

736
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Speaker 5: the coaches are saying, what eber Flus is saying, and

737
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Speaker 5: that way he can kind of have you know, he

738
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Speaker 5: may ask a questions like all right, we scored right?

739
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 5: Who blew that coverage? And they'll ask what happened right here?

740
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Speaker 5: Like why is he so wide open?

741
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 6: He pulls?

742
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 5: And then or no, I guess somebody in the meeting room,

743
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 5: you know, he's like what wait, what happened right here?

744
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: Why is he so wide open? Who blew the coverage? Yeah,

745
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: right here we had this coverage call. We'll cover three

746
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 5: the safety that whatever the whatever the mistake was, or

747
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: you know, if they're if there are a lot of

748
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 5: times you'll have refs at practice, you know, if there's

749
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: an excessive amount of holding on the defense. He comes

750
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 5: in to the meeting, and I'm meaning Brian Schottheimer comes

751
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: in the meeting. All right, guys, listen, no, not the

752
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: results back from the ref today seven office of I mean,

753
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: defensive holding plays today, let's break out, you know, the

754
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: boxing glove. Whatever we got to do so that we

755
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: don't have the holding on the defense. Well, you know,

756
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: we have to address that. And then when they watch

757
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 5: the film they start saying they go, okay, that maybe

758
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: that wasn't a hold, maybe this was a hole. Yeah,

759
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: so that that's the part that he'll take part in

760
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 5: the defensive side. But you know, he is he is really,

761
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: really really dependent upon ebra Flutes running it the best

762
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Speaker 5: that he possibly can.

763
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Speaker 3: Did he pick ebra Flues or was that kind of

764
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: given to him as.

765
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Speaker 8: He had already been hired, So I assume he had

766
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 8: a big say in what.

767
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: In hiring, because that that seems like very you're dependent

768
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Speaker 3: as the head coach, you're the offensive coordinator. If you're

769
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Speaker 3: depending solely, like you said on, that's a very important

770
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Speaker 3: position and you're trusting that to Hey, you go take

771
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: care of that. I'm going to take care of this,

772
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: and then you split duties. Was that a GM appointed

773
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Speaker 3: position or was that something that he was like, this

774
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Speaker 3: is the guy that I want or was it kind

775
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: of like this is the guy we're going to get.

776
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Speaker 6: Are you good with this?

777
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Speaker 5: I want to say when they started this process, it

778
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 5: was more so from the uppers that decided to bring

779
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 5: Matt Ebnflus back. I don't know if this was a

780
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Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer Git. I think it was more of a

781
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Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer. I'm okay with.

782
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Speaker 6: Right, you know what I mean.

783
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what we're thinking about doing. Are you good

784
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: with this?

785
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 10: Yeah?

786
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 6: I'm good? Okay.

787
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: I didn't know if he was like because he picked Haid,

788
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: picked a lot of his other guys and placed him right.

789
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 5: His offensive guys. Yeah, yeah, his offensive guys. A lot

790
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: of those he picked. Yeah, defensively, I don't know if

791
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: he was one hundred percent the guy who's calling the

792
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 5: shots on who is.

793
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 6: DC was going to be?

794
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 8: Can I ask another coaching related question?

795
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: Don't ask me, asked Jesse.

796
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 8: Don't look at me interject here? You know so, uh

797
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 8: Shotty said today that don't or after the practice, don't

798
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 8: read much into it.

799
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Guys.

800
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 8: We're literally played two coverages. You know, we're playing with

801
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 8: us kept all our clubs in the bag seven iron.

802
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 8: That's probably what we're going to do the whole preseason

803
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 8: of seven Iron.

804
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: Is it hard?

805
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: Now?

806
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 8: I understand you know you're not giving away things right now,

807
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 8: you're working on the basics. But do guys need to

808
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 8: do They need to expand the playbook some now against

809
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 8: competition so that they are ready when the real games

810
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 8: get here in September.

811
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 5: See, this is why I've always been such an advocate

812
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 5: of one not losing that fourth preseason game and some

813
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 5: of those guys playing in these preseason games because you

814
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 5: want to see this stuff on film. You want to

815
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: be able to practice this stuff. I know they do

816
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: a lot of this versus their own team, right, will

817
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 5: they expand the play book? But like to Nick's point,

818
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 5: he said, there is a difference when there's another team

819
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 5: in there, the speed is different, the competition is different.

820
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: And you know, when you talk about not when you're

821
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 5: talking a lot about you know, not paying much stock

822
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 5: into what happened that practice. I don't necessarily agree with that.

823
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: I get why he has.

824
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 6: To say it.

825
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 5: He's a head coach. This is all falling the shots

826
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: of him. Well, I don't agree with that. Is because

827
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 5: this is all that we have with the ones.

828
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 8: This is all we have to go off of it.

829
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, like, this isn't we don't

830
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 5: normally in the past, when Nate was coming up, when

831
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 5: I was coming up through the game. You start us

832
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 5: played in preseason game number three, right, and so you

833
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: got a chance to see what it looked like. This

834
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: is all that we have. This is all that we

835
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 5: have to judge off of.

836
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: Now.

837
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 5: Granted we aren't the judge during execution of it all,

838
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 5: but when our eyes are looking at things, we don't

839
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: get much else. And going up against your team doesn't

840
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 5: necessarily give me the greatest confidence that you're good at

841
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: what you do, because they aren't good at what they do. Right, Like,

842
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: so you're running the ball and practice well, doesn't give

843
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: me any hope that you're gonna do it well in

844
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 5: the game, because historically you've had a horrible run defense.

845
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 5: So you know what I'm saying, Like, if it's not

846
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: like the defense that you were going up against in practice,

847
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: were the two thousand and one Ravens or whatever the

848
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 5: year that was two thousand Ravens, right, Like, if that's

849
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 5: them and your defense, and you're telling me, man, I

850
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 5: run it back to getting off now, I'm like, shoot, yeah, boy,

851
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: if they're getting off against this, but your defense has

852
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 5: been known to not stop anybody, right, And so then

853
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: on the same thing, on the flip side, if the

854
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 5: defense is getting after the quarterback, I'm looking at the

855
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 5: I'm looking at this and going, I don't know if

856
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: that's fools goal because the offense ain't necessarily been the

857
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: best offensive line that they've had in the years. So

858
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 5: what's true, Well, what's true to me is when I

859
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: see you go up against another team and not necessarily

860
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: that you have to scheme it up, but when when

861
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 5: their jimmies and Joe's are moving your jimmies and Joe's,

862
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: that's what I look at it, and I go, Okay,

863
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 5: we still have a problem here. And so some of

864
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 5: the things that we've talked about time and time before

865
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 5: that the Cowboys have had issues with showed themselves again

866
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 5: when the Rams came to town. So what am I

867
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 5: supposed to believe that you couldn't run the ball a

868
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 5: year ago Rams come to town. You can't run the ball,

869
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 5: you couldn't stop the run. A year ago Rams come

870
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 5: to town. You're having proper stop in the run. So

871
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: something to that I have to look into because it

872
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: matches what your issues were prior to coming to this point.

873
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: Is it in a way a good thing? And maybe

874
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: kind of a reality check and like a like a

875
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: all right, there's still a lot of work to be done.

876
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 6: I hope, so you know, like, hey, hope, so you were.

877
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Doing good against this defense. This defense is what you're

878
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: really going to.

879
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: Be And now I hope that that's what he's saying, like, Hey, guys,

880
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: don't don't take the fool goals of what you've been

881
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 5: doing that practice every single day. Yes we've been getting

882
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 5: some good working. Yes we're we're competing hard, but as

883
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 5: you saw, there's another level, right, there's another level now

884
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 5: what we've been seeing. And hell, I would even be

885
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: the point where I pull guys aside, and I'm like,

886
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 5: have you seen this other guy from the other team?

887
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: You see how hard he practices, So question you know

888
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: what I mean? Like you see how you see how

889
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: he goes about that. Yeah, young fellow, come here when

890
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 5: we watch film. You saw how this dude who's been

891
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 5: in the league.

892
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 6: So take note.

893
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Listening to what Nate said and about how well old

894
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: of a machine the Rams are. I mean, they're they're

895
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: at the top of the league, right, They're in the

896
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: top five teams in the league. And mcvay's been doing

897
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: this for a long time. A lot of the guys

898
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: on their team have been doing it. Shody sounds like

899
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: he's on the path to be a good head coach.

900
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see what the talent is, see what

901
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: he does. But right out of the gate, with the

902
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: limited sample we have, he's talked a good game, all

903
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: the right things talking. He's talked a good game.

904
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 5: We haven't seen the physical part of the talking matching.

905
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: Right, let's just say we do it. It all matches realistically.

906
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: McVay has been doing this for years, and I think

907
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: probably the guys that haven't been around come in and

908
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: they see that and they see wait, a minute. We

909
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: got a long way to go to get to that,

910
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: To reach that intensity this early in training camp, even

911
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: if he is the second you know what everybody hopes

912
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: he is, it's gonna take weeks and weeks months maybe

913
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: for that to take shape and everybody kind of gets

914
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 3: seasoned together, right Like it's like I think we all

915
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: hope as fans, like he's great, he talks awesome, he

916
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: says the right things. He's got the guys competing, he's

917
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: got He's creating this culture, he's creating this mentality. Even if,

918
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: like just listening to an eight, you can tell there's

919
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 3: still a long way to go and to really hope

920
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 3: and expect for this season, it's gonna take you. Even

921
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: if you get to that, it's gonna take you halfway

922
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: through the season just to start clicking, like because nobody's

923
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: used to this. That's kind of where like I was hoping,

924
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: get in here. We win four of the first four

925
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: of the first six, and we're set up for the

926
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: second half of the season and we're good. Like I'm

927
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: kind of like, it's gonna take a little bit for

928
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 3: this to click.

929
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 6: Maybe Vegas, what the sore wrong? You know?

930
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: It maybe seven and a half. Maybe no, But to

931
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: your point, it does take time. And this is you know,

932
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 5: last year we had to hold out with CD Lamb.

933
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: We saw the hot I affected him, right. This year

934
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 5: we have to hold out with Michael Parsons, which, by

935
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: the way, I meant to accuate this because I haven't

936
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 5: seen Micah do anything conditioning wise.

937
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 8: That's who I was wondering. At what point does he like,

938
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: can't be ready?

939
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: Can you should? I'm saying, like, I can't condition with

940
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: a bad back. Well stop, have you ever had a

941
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: bad back? You can't do nothing.

942
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: Let's stop. Let's stop with the bad back nonsense.

943
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 5: But at some point in time, you in order to

944
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 5: get in football. Shit, we all know that you have

945
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 5: to do football things.

946
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

947
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: And so we're talking. This isn't new or exclusive to athletes.

948
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 5: You can work out for months and months and months

949
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 5: and months to get yourself in shape, get yourself right.

950
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 5: You take off three weeks and you back to square one.

951
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: I recently moved. I was thinking this yesterday. I took

952
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: three weeks. I was running five miles two or three

953
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: times a week. Yep, no problems sweating, you know, gasping

954
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 3: at the end of it. But good took three weeks

955
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: off because I've been moving, and then I went out

956
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 3: of town for work. Ran yesterday. I was like, Oh,

957
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter that it's four o'clock in the afternoon.

958
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: I made it two and a half miles and I

959
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna I have to walk. Good about God,

960
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to walk. And then I started thinking

961
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: about the exact same thing. What I haven't seen Micah

962
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: do anything, like just from a cardio station. I'm saying,

963
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 3: not the calluses and the bruises and ump, just the

964
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: cardio part.

965
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 6: That's what I mean.

966
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you can ride the bike and you can

967
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: do whatever.

968
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 5: But like they had the same and had the same

969
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 5: to you. To you again, you don't understand if you

970
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 5: and I, If you and I right now, right here,

971
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 5: if we wrestled, put on the clock for sixty seconds,

972
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 5: Oh we we'd be dead, right, But that's that's.

973
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 6: How much do you weigh?

974
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 5: One twenty five leaning on you? So what about Micah?

975
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds? If we were lucky, I might make it

976
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: thirty seconds.

977
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 6: But now imagine doing that.

978
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 5: Now imagine us doing that for forty five seconds, taking

979
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 5: a break for forty five seconds, taking a break for

980
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: forty five seconds, taking a break, and you do it

981
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 5: fifty times.

982
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 6: The gast.

983
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 5: Now this is Micah at two hundred and forty five

984
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: pounds leaning up having a three hundred pounds due lean

985
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 5: against him for sixty plays.

986
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: That's what. And you're in.

987
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 5: You're in.

988
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: You're my wrestling just going through it from when you

989
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: played how long? Just the cardio part two three weeks

990
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: just to get back in cardio shape. Much less the if.

991
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: You're doing it, if you're doing everyday high tense, like yeah,

992
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 5: two or three.

993
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: Weeks plus the plus the physical part, the bruising, the callouses,

994
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: the where your toenails are going off.

995
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 5: You know, you're laughing like that's a real thing. Your

996
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 5: feet hurting, the big toe hurting, the knee, the camp strings,

997
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: the back, for real back, you know what I'm saying.

998
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 5: And because you have to get to it, you have

999
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 5: to get past the point of because everyone enters training

1000
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 5: camp healthy, after first week, everyone's hurt.

1001
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 6: It's all about what degree it's hurting, is injured hurt?

1002
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 8: Darren Wooden said, I entered training camp the best shape

1003
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 8: of my life and left training camp and the worst.

1004
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, you you, and then you always hear about the

1005
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 5: war of attrition. It's about how can I maintain this

1006
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 5: throughout the throughout the season, because once you've got a

1007
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 5: training camp, brother, you hurt. Everybody's hurt. That's why you

1008
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 5: hear coaches say there's hurt, there's injured, hurt. You gotta

1009
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 5: be able to play through, gotta be a push through hurt.

1010
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: Injured means all right now, now we got to see

1011
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: take some days off medical treatment.

1012
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 6: Everybody's hurt, everybody's dealing.

1013
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 3: With So what's that Kurt had this in the in

1014
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: the rundown. What's the tipping point in your opinion where

1015
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: Micah's not Micah unless he's doing stuff by what date next.

1016
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 5: Week, by preseason game two.

1017
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: If he's not in camp and full blown, then it's

1018
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: gonna take a minute. It's gonna take a couple of

1019
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: games for him to get.

1020
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 5: And my fear is because I don't know Michael personally,

1021
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 5: but knowing Micah the player, it's when you go from

1022
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 5: zero to a million miles an hour, that's when injuries happened.

1023
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 5: That's when something is bound to us, you know. And

1024
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: then it's it's the it's the it's the getting what

1025
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: am I looking for? My coordination? I want to get

1026
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: my coordination right. I want I want to get my

1027
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 5: move down, you know, I want to.

1028
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 6: I want to.

1029
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 5: I want to practice my swim. I want to practice

1030
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 5: my ripping pool. I want to practice my my you know,

1031
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: my ripping dip. I want to practice all these things

1032
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 5: in practice. But when I get in the game, like,

1033
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 5: I don't want to get to Philadelphia and this is

1034
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: the first time I'm trying something.

1035
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: And we know if you make it back here. Let's

1036
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: just say you have a week of practice at training camp.

1037
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: Practice out here ain't practiced like it is training now.

1038
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: It's not as physical. You can't physical because of the CBA.

1039
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 5: The paths aren't on in ten times, aren't there, the

1040
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: intensity isn't there. And still because you haven't been to practice,

1041
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: he still has to go through ramp up period that's

1042
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 5: by NFL, like, so he has to take a couple

1043
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: of days to get in the ramp up period.

1044
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 6: So you won't even be able to really do what.

1045
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: They're doing because you haven't gotten to the ramp up

1046
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 5: here that the NFL requires you to do.

1047
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: Let's get this thing done. Let's get done. Sign it.

1048
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: Sign it tonight.

1049
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 6: Be nice.

1050
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: Get it knocked down so we find something else.

1051
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 6: To talk about it.

1052
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about this.

1053
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 5: Old jaj standing ten toes down that that's what.

1054
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: He said yesterday, hadn't talked to the player, hadn't talked

1055
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: to the agent. Nothing, that's wild, unbelievable. All right, fellas,

1056
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: good stuff, man, this was a great show. Kurt, Jesse, Paul,

1057
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: thanks for keeping us on the air.

1058
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 6: Nate, you have your seat back.

1059
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks as long as the building, thanks to spending

1060
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: two segments with us. Chris, we don't know what happened

1061
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 3: to You don't respond to the group text anymore. You

1062
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: don't chime in on the show. He's just living it

1063
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: up out in California. We'll be back Friday, probably without Kurt,

1064
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 3: Mia Jesse will be here, Natal call in, and then

1065
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: we'll figure out what's going on next week. Thanks for

1066
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: tuning in to Hanging with the Boys.

1067
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1068
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