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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase that Lee.

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Speaker 2: This is the Philly Show, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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Speaker 2: todds Aleuki, It's the Philly Show. It's Wednesday, October first,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, Jim Red.

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Speaker 1: October has arrived.

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Speaker 3: The moment we've been pointing to since they were at Phillies,

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Speaker 3: were eliminated last fall, since day one of spring training.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of all that has mattered for this team.

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Speaker 3: Get back to October and see.

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Speaker 1: Where it goes.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's excited about the Phillies. And guess what. We have

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Speaker 2: a guest today, Jim that we never would have imagined

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Speaker 2: would be on our show when we first started this

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Speaker 2: little podcast in March of twenty twenty four. We've got

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. It's time for the Parks First Pitch.

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Speaker 2: at Parts Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Jim, the Governor

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Speaker 2: is a hardcore Phillies fan. He's not one of these

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Speaker 2: guys that watches a game every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Kind of follows that. We talked to him, you, Reuben

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Speaker 2: and I and he knew everything that was going on

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Speaker 2: with this team.

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Speaker 3: He sure did fun interview, really fun guy, great to

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Speaker 3: talk to him, knows his sports, loves his sports. I

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Speaker 3: was very impressed with his passion and his knowledge of

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Speaker 3: baseball and the Phillies. He talked about some of their

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Speaker 3: trade dot deadline acquisitions, how they they've worked out well,

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Speaker 3: and you know, obviously a big fan. You know, went

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Speaker 3: to the VET with his dad as a kid and

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Speaker 3: and so just h He also was very you know,

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Speaker 3: curious to hear some of his thoughts about the Pittsburgh Pirates. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: he is the governor of Pennsylvania. There's two major League

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Speaker 3: teams in this in this state. You know, the Phillies

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Speaker 3: he had some thoughts on that and some thoughts on

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Speaker 3: Paul Skeins. He's been to PNC Park like all of us.

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Speaker 3: He loves it, so it was interesting to hear his

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Speaker 3: thoughts on the Pirates as well. But yeah, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be watching Red October very keenly. He's a legit baseball fan,

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Speaker 3: a legit Phillies fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool. He asked him about throwing out

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Speaker 2: the first pitches. It was just something that you know

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Speaker 2: every not everybody gets to do, but there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of pressure on your gym when you throw out a

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Speaker 2: first pitch. I don't care if you're the president. I

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Speaker 2: remember President Bush years ago throwing a perfect strike. He

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Speaker 2: had a great arm. I don't care if you're a

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Speaker 2: governor or a mayor, or if you're an actor or

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Speaker 2: a musician. If you throw out a bad first pitch, Jim,

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Speaker 2: it lives on forever.

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Speaker 1: Fun.

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Speaker 2: He's done that before, so it was fun talking about that. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of good stuff in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Governor, thank you so much for joining the Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir man? I'm excite.

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Speaker 6: It's Red October baby, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: So where are you? You are a huge Phillies fan.

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Speaker 1: We know this.

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Speaker 2: Now, where are you watching game one on satur We

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Speaker 2: don't know who they're playing, We don't know what time

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Speaker 2: you have plans? Can you? Can you make plans?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Hard for me to make plans.

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Speaker 6: It all usually gets screwed up with events that happened.

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Speaker 6: But I think my understanding is I've been looking at this.

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Speaker 6: There's like a like a one pm and seven pm. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'll find out and then figure out what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 6: But man, I'd love to be at the bank. If not,

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Speaker 6: I'll be on the couch with my kids watching the game.

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Speaker 3: So tell us a little bit about your Philadelphia sports fandom,

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Speaker 3: like a favorite team, favorite player. Do you remember your

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Speaker 3: first trip to the VET? Things like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, my dad and I used to sit on

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Speaker 1: You guys there, I lose you first second week, got you? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean to me, there was nothing more special than

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Speaker 6: fighting traffic on the schoogle, racing in to get into

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Speaker 6: the Phills Michael Jack Schmidt, and then to have that

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Speaker 6: and then when we'd head back out, I never forget this,

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Speaker 6: you know. You go up back out to the car,

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Speaker 6: I don't know why, but they were delicious. You grab

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Speaker 6: growing up in that era with Mike Schmidt, with Lefty,

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Speaker 6: My kids just know the Phillies since they've been hot

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Speaker 7: So did Mike Schmidt or any of the players ever

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Speaker 1: Did you ever have that moment by any chance? One

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Speaker 6: But no, that was we didn't even get to keep

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Speaker 1: Some other fan grabbed the ball.

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Speaker 3: That didn't happen today. That would have ended up on

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Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, Governor, somebody told me this, and you got

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Speaker 1: Is that true or is this a total rumor? Totally true?

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Speaker 6: My brother found three seats from Connie Mack Stadium in

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Speaker 3: Did you did you play as a kid do when

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Speaker 6: My two sports were baseball and basketball, and I was

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Speaker 2: What do you like about baseball that? What kind of

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Speaker 6: I just think and look, I think this is true

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Speaker 6: in my job a lot. The beauty of a team

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Speaker 6: to me, baseball in many ways, is that analogy for life,

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Speaker 6: for work. Everybody's got to do their part. No one

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Speaker 7: So how would you describe your leadership when you talk

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Speaker 6: I believe in hiring people who have skills that I

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Speaker 6: By the way, guys sometimes different parties than me, like

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Speaker 6: I've got this beautiful ornate desk that I'm privileged to

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Speaker 6: I don't sit behind that with my team. I sit

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Speaker 6: People in Pennsylvania elected me to do that work. But

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Speaker 6: I'm still waiting for that one employee that's just going

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Speaker 5: That sounds exact actually, like like when we sit and

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Speaker 1: Deadline things like that. So that's yeah, that's really cool.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's a that's a really cool thing to hear.

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Speaker 2: What did you think about What did you think about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane.

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Speaker 6: I actually wish I would have been in a game

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Speaker 6: I get neurotic. I'm very worried about these six days

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Speaker 3: So, Governor, sports and politics, probably kind of something is

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Speaker 3: in common. You win some, you lose some. You gotta

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Speaker 3: You know they've gotten gotten knocked out three years in

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Speaker 3: the big prize yet. What's uh, what's your message to

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Speaker 1: Well, Look, I love John.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that he would ever invite me to

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you about when he invited me to throw

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Speaker 6: at one of the playoff games, But honestly, it would

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Speaker 6: be really brief. I just go in there and say,

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Speaker 6: to win a World Series. They got, they got the bats,

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Speaker 6: They gotta have fun. And they got to remember they're

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Speaker 7: What do you think the biggest strength of this team is?

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Speaker 1: So far?

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Speaker 6: Governor Man, I just think one through nine. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that there's a better lineup in baseball

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been there. I think these guys know

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Speaker 2: I think it was Game three of the twenty three NLDS.

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Speaker 6: So I go into the tunnel there and threw the

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Speaker 6: these people like you. I'm like they do, but they

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 6: So I get out there and I had a couple

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Speaker 6: I got good advice. At an Eerie Sea Wolves game

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Speaker 6: So if you got a lollipop it a little bit.

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Speaker 6: As long as it goes straight, you do not need

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Speaker 1: So that was solies.

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Speaker 5: during election.

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Speaker 6: Day, no question, during the pitch, Yeah, with that question,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I like, there are a few things that

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Speaker 6: make me nerves like I've gotten up. You know, you

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Speaker 6: speak in front of tens of thousands of people, you

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Speaker 6: stand for election with thirteen million, but you do all

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Speaker 6: this stuff, and I look, I love what I do.

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Speaker 6: I hope you know that I really do. I don't

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Speaker 6: get nervous before I do that stuff. Walking out at

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Speaker 6: the bank, throwing that first pitch, and by the way

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Speaker 6: I've done a PNC park in Pittsburgh, totally different dynamic.

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Speaker 6: You don't feel that same level of pressure as Philly's

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Speaker 6: fans put on you. And I got to tell you,

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Speaker 6: I love it. I mean, I just think Philly fans

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Speaker 6: are They're awesome the way they challenge you and they

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Speaker 6: make you better.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of you mentioned PNC pen PNC Park, beautiful players, gorgeous, amazing.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you if you follow the

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Speaker 3: Pirate as a baseball thing, follow the Pirates at all,

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Speaker 3: and what's going to happen out there to get them

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Speaker 3: playing better? Because you know, you know, when you were

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Speaker 3: a kid to Pirates in the Phillies had a really

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Speaker 3: great rivalry.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And look, they're an iconic franchise and they've got

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Speaker 6: an incredible history. And by the way, if you've never

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Speaker 6: been to panc Park, an amazing ballpark, and I encourage

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Speaker 6: anybody to go there. I mean, it's just particularly you're

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Speaker 6: sitting sort of behind home plate or at the beginning

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Speaker 6: of the first or third base line, I guess the

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Speaker 6: end of the third baseline, beginning the first baseline, so

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Speaker 6: you're looking out in the outfit. It's just a gorgeous ballpark.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, it is tough I think today for

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Speaker 6: small market or mid market teams to be able to compete.

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Speaker 6: Where You've got the Mets, who very happy they didn't

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Speaker 6: make the playoffs, spending stupid money, the Dodgers, the Yankees

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Speaker 6: right and by the way, even mister Middleton, who's been

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Speaker 6: amazing about investing in this team beyond sort of what

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Speaker 6: the market would dictate, right, because he wants to win.

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Speaker 6: He's desperate to win. You got these small market teams, right,

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Speaker 6: whether it's a Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Tampa, you name it, and

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Speaker 6: they're like in a tough spot because they're not generating

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Speaker 6: the same kind of revenue as a team in LA

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Speaker 6: or New York or even Philly is but they can't

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Speaker 6: compete when you know their payrolls. I think the Pirates

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Speaker 6: are somewhere in the eighties or something like that. You

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Speaker 6: got to be able to get that up otherwise, how

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Speaker 6: are you going to compete against a three hundred plus

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Speaker 6: million dollar, you know, you know, salary for another team.

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Speaker 6: I would like to see Bob Nutting invest more in

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Speaker 6: that team. I'd like to see baseball invest more in

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Speaker 6: these small market teams. I worry if at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, we really only have these big market

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Speaker 6: teams able to compete or owners who are willing to

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Speaker 6: kind of spend in a rational amount. I mean that

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Speaker 6: with the utmost respect to John Middleton, because guy wants

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Speaker 6: to win and.

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Speaker 1: I love that about him.

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Speaker 6: But I worry about baseball if we can't figure out

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Speaker 6: the small market teams, because you're really going to just

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Speaker 6: end up with the same five, six, seven, eight clubs

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Speaker 6: competing every year. And that's not fair, and that's not

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Speaker 6: good for baseball. It's not good for fans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they got a guy like Paul Skans

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Speaker 3: who's gonna win Siye Young. He's so excited, and there's

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Speaker 3: actually chatter that maybe they have to trade him, maybe

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Speaker 3: he's the next Garrett Cole.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna wear a Pirates uniform for his entire career. And

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Speaker 3: there's something that's kind of sad about that.

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Speaker 6: It's totally sad for a guy like Dad who seemingly

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Speaker 6: loves Pittsburgh, and God knows Pittsburgh loves him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like amazing, right, I want to be

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Speaker 1: able to keep a guy like that.

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Speaker 6: You think about all the great pitchers that have been

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Speaker 6: able to stay with their ball clubs for basically their

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Speaker 6: entirety of their career, maybe the exception of a last

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Speaker 6: year or two. I want that for Paul Skins. I

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Speaker 6: want him to be able to be in Pittsburgh, by

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Speaker 6: the way, God bless him. I want him to make

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Speaker 6: all the money that he should make in this environment,

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Speaker 6: the endorsement deals, the salary, all that stuff. And you

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Speaker 6: worry if you have a group the teams that are

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Speaker 6: in these smaller markets who can't put together the dollars

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Speaker 6: needed to keep a guy like Schemes, or to land

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Speaker 6: a big free agent, or to do just what we

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Speaker 6: did at the trade deadline, whether Bait or Doran. I

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Speaker 6: know they weren't in a position to win, but we

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Speaker 6: were in a position to spend some money. I want

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh to be able to do that. And listen, there's

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Speaker 6: some shared burden here, right. Nutting's got burdened on him

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Speaker 6: to invest, and Baseball's got to figure out how to

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Speaker 6: prop up these these teams as well in these smaller markets.

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Speaker 2: Well, govern governor, thanks so much for the time. One

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Speaker 2: last one and I'll let you go. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: this is probably an ignorant question. But say the Phillies

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Speaker 2: get to the World Series and they're playing the Mariners.

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Speaker 2: Do governors make bets on a series like mayors do?

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Speaker 2: Like are you do you call it the governor of

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Speaker 2: Washington or do you go you know, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to think of an American leade you call the

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Speaker 2: governor of New York if the Yankees are put something

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Speaker 2: on the line, make it interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without question.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so I've been fortunate to be governor during

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Speaker 6: two Super Bowls for the Birds, and so I've bet

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Speaker 6: the governor is the governor of Missouri. But then we

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Speaker 6: also did a sideby with the governor of Kansas too.

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Speaker 1: Not only do.

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Speaker 6: I do a bet, I talk so much shit, Like

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Speaker 6: you have no idea the level of shit talking I do.

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Speaker 6: And so that was a little hard with the Eagles

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Speaker 6: first Super Bowl, but I got it back last year. Now, look,

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Speaker 6: I'll give you I mean very seriously. Like, first off,

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Speaker 6: I'm a fan. I love this. Second, I'm proud as

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Speaker 6: hell to represent this state, and I think sports is

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Speaker 6: such a unifying force in our state. I don't want

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Speaker 6: to be political at all. In fact, I love that

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Speaker 6: we're not talking about politics. But I think you'll agree

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Speaker 6: with me on this. There's so much division in our

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Speaker 6: world right now, and people have honestly held views that

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Speaker 6: kind of make them like that. There are still a

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Speaker 6: few languages that bring people together and allow people who

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Speaker 6: are different to have meaningful conversations. I think sports is one.

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Speaker 6: I think food is another. Think the outdoors, right, just

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Speaker 6: experiencing the outdoors and music or others, and you know,

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Speaker 6: case in point, go down to the bank, wander up

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Speaker 6: in the stands, just sit down, and inevitably you're gonna

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Speaker 6: be sitting between two people who have really different views

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Speaker 6: than you, or different views than the other across from you.

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Speaker 6: And yet you are going to be totally comfortable sitting there,

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Speaker 6: bag of peanuts in your hand, a soda, talking about

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Speaker 6: the fills and feeling like, you know what, Those differences

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Speaker 6: just kind of melt away. And so I think that

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Speaker 6: there's a beauty in sports. And when you see a

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Speaker 6: team like the Phillies and by the way, the Birds do,

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Speaker 6: who are doing so well, it lifts up a community

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Speaker 6: because they speak to everybody. They just make everybody feel good.

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Speaker 6: So so I not only love it as a fan,

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Speaker 6: I love it as as the leader of the state

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Speaker 6: because it brings people together. It excites people and allows

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Speaker 6: people who otherwise wouldn't be having conversations to have those conversations.

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Speaker 1: And man, I just love it. I love it. And

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Speaker 1: that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, Governor thanks, thanks so much for joining us. We

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Speaker 2: had a great, great time talking to you. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: see at the bank in October. Maybe we'll see you

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Speaker 2: through out our first pitch. So get the army.

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Speaker 1: I'll be getting ready. I'll live up, guys.

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Speaker 6: And and by the way, we're gonna I don't want

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Speaker 6: to jinx to anything, but we're gonna do very well

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Speaker 6: this year.

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Speaker 1: I won't say any more in that. And then next

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Speaker 1: year amazing when the All.

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Speaker 6: Star Game comes to Philly at the awesome big baseball

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Speaker 6: time for us. Guys, I'm huge fans of yours. Thanks

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Speaker 6: for having me on and go Phils, Jim.

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Speaker 2: That was great. We loved having Governor Shapiro on. That

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Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. I just want to give

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Speaker 2: everybody heads up a reminder. The Phillies show shop dot

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Speaker 2: com is now open. We've been selling some hoodies because

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00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: it is getting to be fall. A lot of cool

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Speaker 2: stuff there. Scan the QR code and your screen or

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Speaker 2: just visit the Phillies show shop dot com.

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Speaker 1: We will be.

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Speaker 2: Back later this week. We'll we're planning on, you know,

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Speaker 2: a couple more.

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Speaker 1: Shows this week.

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Speaker 2: Talk Philly is there because it is Red October GYM,

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Speaker 2: so everybody's excited. We don't know who they're playing yet.

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Speaker 2: It'll be the Dodgers or the Reds. I'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you later, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely a lot of fun and I'll smell you later.

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