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Speaker 1: Scared of all advice. Welcome to It's Friday. I love

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Speaker 1: Friday many many reasons, but one of them is our

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Speaker 1: friend Corey Andrew from Instinct magazine dot com joins us, Cory,

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Speaker 1: are you there? I am here, Rob, Good morning, and

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Speaker 1: happy Friday. Happy Friday. I'm all excited. On Monday, I'm

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Speaker 1: on the Wendy Williams Show. So if you're a random

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Speaker 1: Monday and you want to put a face to this

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Speaker 1: annoying voice, because that's all we hear is each other's

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Speaker 1: voices at the moment with us all at home, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be on that show on Monday. They're really serious

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Speaker 1: about COVID and testing over their Corey, which is a

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Speaker 1: really good thing. I had to go in yesterday and

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Speaker 1: take my COVID to test. I'll get the results today.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I'm okay, fingers crossed, and then I'll

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Speaker 1: see you all Monday. But let's get back to today

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Speaker 1: because we've got so much gossip. One time is it?

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Speaker 1: It is ta Kelly Clarkson. We told you about this

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, but now we have the receipts.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson's divorce is getting really, really nasty. So Kelly

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Speaker 1: is alleging that her estranged husband, who was also her manager,

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Speaker 1: Kelly is claiming that her former management company didn't really

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Speaker 1: handle things very well, and she's accusing several members of

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Speaker 1: her old team that once again includes her husband and

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Speaker 1: her father in law. She's saying there is fraud and

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Speaker 1: quote illegal services. So the documents, they were first reported

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Speaker 1: is very, very nasty. She claims there's lots of illegal services,

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Speaker 1: like the fact they were unlicensed agents. Let me explain

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Speaker 1: what that means and can fournia. You can't just be

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Speaker 1: she alleges that they were not. So what started all

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Speaker 1: this off was the father in law sued Kelly for

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Speaker 1: one point four million in fees that she hadn't paid

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Speaker 1: to him. So he claimed she owed him one point

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Speaker 1: four million, plus he claimed on an ongoing basis, she

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Speaker 1: needed to send him a check because he got her

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Speaker 1: the voice and her talk show. So if you're a

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Speaker 1: manager an agent and you get a client a job,

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Speaker 1: you don't just get paid Once you get a royalty,

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Speaker 1: you get a pay check every month for as long

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Speaker 1: as that job goes on. Kelly shows a huge hit,

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Speaker 1: so it could be on five ten years, who knows,

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Speaker 1: and the voice that's not going to go anywhere, so

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Speaker 1: that is a cash cow for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 1: Kelly has responded saying she wants to help the payments,

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Speaker 1: and not only that, everything she's paid previously, she wants

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Speaker 1: a refund. This is all about money, isn't it, Corey, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it really is. But you know, I want to know

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Speaker 1: how come she didn't know they weren't licensed before she

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Speaker 1: agreed to do business with them, like a husband or not,

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Speaker 1: Like Kelly, you know, get your business in order first, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's quite a famous manager. He handled Reba Reba McIntire

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Speaker 1: handles Blake Shelton. So I would just assume that it

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Speaker 1: was all legit, and I'm not saying it's not. This

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Speaker 1: is Kelly's allegations. We should point that out. But for instance,

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Speaker 1: where he graduated from? Can I see your medical license?

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Speaker 1: I just sit in the chair, so I do understand this.

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Speaker 1: The biggest question here for me is how do you

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Speaker 1: feel you're a performer yourself, Corey, you're a recording artist.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about management teams? Do you have

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Speaker 1: trust them? It's very complicated, it is, and nowadays most

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Speaker 1: managers don't really even want to deal with talent unless

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Speaker 1: the talent has gotten themselves to a certain level and

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Speaker 1: the manager can come in and help them manage them,

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Speaker 1: manage what they've accomplished. But you know, it's really tricky

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Speaker 1: I'm managing things on my own, so until I get

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Speaker 1: to that point, I would like to have less headaches

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Speaker 1: It is true too, a lot of managers come in

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Speaker 1: was breaking. It's relatively easy to be Jennifer Lopez's publicist,

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Speaker 1: wasn't that easy, Which brings us to our pole question

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Speaker 1: of the day. So Kelly is claiming that her husband

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Speaker 1: and ex manager didn't act necessarily in her best interests here?

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Speaker 1: Is it bad business to work with family? And you

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Speaker 1: don't have to be a pop star to do this?

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Speaker 1: Lots of family businesses exist. What do you think about

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Speaker 1: working with family? Is it a bad idea? Yes or Noah?

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Speaker 1: Go and vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice

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Speaker 1: Robert at Facebook page, which is Naughty Gossip and be

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Speaker 1: sure to check back on Monday to hear your results.

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Speaker 1: Corey Love, what are you working on well and happy

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Speaker 1: your music news. Taylor Swift announces a surprise new album, Evermore. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Swift these this is not a drill. Taylor

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Speaker 1: has dropped a new album and it's her ninth LP, Evermore,

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Speaker 1: a sister record to her number one eight studio album Folklore,

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Speaker 1: which dropped last night. And Taylor she us an explanation

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Speaker 1: about this record she wants to put forward. She says,

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Speaker 1: to put it plainly, we couldn't stop writing songs, so

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Speaker 1: to try and put it more poetically, it feels like

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Speaker 1: we were standing on the edge of a Folklorean woods

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Speaker 1: travel further into the forest of this music, and we

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Speaker 1: chose to wander deeper. Yes, it's so poetic now. A

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Speaker 1: lot of her fans, however, though, are convinced that there's

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Speaker 1: like a hidden Easter egg in her in her announcement

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Speaker 1: for Evermore, because there's a still shot from the video

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Speaker 1: and Taylor is wearing what appears to be a bridal gown,

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Speaker 1: although it's not. It's a dress. You can buy it

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Speaker 1: north drums on age, you know, off the rack, honey,

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Speaker 1: And so some of her fans, the swift ease, they

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Speaker 1: think that it's a hint that she's dropped that she's

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Speaker 1: actually now married to her boyfriend, Joe Oliwin. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like, did Tat tie the knot or not

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Speaker 1: she did it. She loves teasing us like this. Also,

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Speaker 1: He's the lyricist on a lot of the songs. He

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Speaker 1: he's going to make a lot of money from this

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Speaker 1: album too. I think the two of them were locked

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Speaker 1: so lucky. The one good thing to come out of

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Speaker 1: a Carol King. She's really or a Joni Mitchell. They're

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Speaker 1: all story songs. There's a terrific song on there about

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Speaker 1: who Done It? It's like a murder mystery all in

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Speaker 1: three minutes. It's fantastic. I'm so impressed with her. Her

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Speaker 1: numbers are outrageous. She sells albums like the old timers.

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Speaker 1: So when you hear Michael Jackson's sold hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 1: the new artists will never sell that because the business

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Speaker 1: has changed, even Adele, but the business is totally different. However,

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Speaker 1: sell about four million albums this year. I lover and

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Speaker 1: I love this Taylor maybe along. Ellen has announced that

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Speaker 1: at a really bad time for Ellen. There's a new

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Speaker 1: report in BuzzFeed News claiming that the workplace has been

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Speaker 1: seen the Kardashians and the Jenna's, and even though I

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Speaker 1: your mad corey or have you moved on? It's so

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Speaker 1: funny you say that, because when this story first broke,

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Speaker 1: And so Ellen, Ellen, get well soon. What's going on

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Speaker 1: with Selena Gomez? Oh? Yes, we's Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber.

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Speaker 1: negativity in the past situation. So recently, Jelenna fan asked

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Speaker 1: fans to bombard Justin and Haley with Jelena comments. And

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Speaker 1: just so everyone knows, Jelena is the hybrid celebrity name

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Speaker 1: of Selena and Justin, so you get Jelena. And so

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