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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat back like a bad habit, We're

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, your dynamic duo is back for a full

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Speaker 1: show with plenty of MMA to talk about today. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: my name is Luke Thomas. I'm early one half of

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Speaker 1: your hosting duo. I am joined by a gentleman who

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Speaker 1: What's up here?

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Speaker 2: Well, not skintag free yet they still have to fall off.

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Speaker 2: But I got various parts of my body cosmedically frozen

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Speaker 2: and picked at Luke. Why because I'm a half washed

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Speaker 2: got a great show MMA heavy today, Luke. Any closing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad we went. I'm glad that we get

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Speaker 1: as municated today's show is MMA heavy, and uh, you know, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: All right, well we should. Time will tell if you're

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Speaker 2: But we're good, We're good. You didn't have a date

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Speaker 2: Still more to climb. So when you ask who's next,

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Speaker 2: who do you like?

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Speaker 1: I like the Josh Emmett fight because Josh will meet

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Speaker 1: Plus I've been saying this, Josh Emmett has extremely high

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Speaker 2: Oh? God, I just I just uh. I was looking

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Speaker 2: I mean, look the dude, you go out there and

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Speaker 2: This guy's no shortage of confidence. He was also you know,

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Speaker 2: Man when these guys have nine lives in your heart? Right.

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Speaker 2: you gotta take the L and we're and we're past

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I here's the deal, Luke. This

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Speaker 2: ask himself if that tattoo was the right move? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still around.

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Speaker 2: he's comfortable and happy with it, and could he win

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00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 2: a title at those levels? Sure, the talent's there, but

428
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: as of right now, he just he's missing what he

429
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 2: would need to maximize his talent. And these are drastic measures.

430
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 2: But before it gets too drastic, before you're thirty four

431
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 2: and suddenly the last stop down the road BKFC, Yes,

432
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: is the only stop left. Something drastic would need to

433
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 2: happen here, Luke, he's not the man yet we thought

434
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 2: he was. And yes, we are running out of options

435
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 2: to try to prove to you that what we saw,

436
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 2: you know, was what it was. I'll take the L.

437
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 2: He took the L. Is that drastic? Luke. Could he

438
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: get cut?

439
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: I think he might get cut because the way, you know,

440
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: some things I heard, and obviously we all heard what

441
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 1: Dana White said, like you, I don't if he's still

442
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 1: going to stick around, we'll see. I certainly don't wish

443
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 1: that upon him, like the difficulties that can come with

444
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 1: the UFC. Life taken from you and now you have

445
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: to go and yeah, some people, of course go to

446
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: some place outside the UFC and have a lot of success,

447
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: but you know a lot of people don't. So I

448
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 1: don't wish that upon him. But it's pretty clear that

449
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: if he wants to get the best out of himself,

450
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: he is in need of a reset moment. You know,

451
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 1: he is very much in need of a reset moment.

452
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't realize this until I did some research.

453
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: The last time he put back to back wins together

454
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Speaker 1: was twenty seventeen. I mean, you know, we are way

455
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 1: way past that. It is time for a look into

456
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Speaker 1: what is happening here. And between twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen,

457
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: I think he had like a five fight win streak.

458
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: Since then, the only back to back we don't want

459
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: to put the you know, consistency He's had his back

460
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: to back losses against Iquintin Dosanos and then Charles Olvera

461
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: and Rodriguez, and look, he's not losing too bad, guys.

462
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 1: He's losing to you know, Tony Ferguson twenty seventeen. That's

463
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: about as close to peak Tony as you're gonna get.

464
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 1: I like Quinta. I still think very highly of him.

465
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: He's got a great job. Becaumes they're a good team. Obviously,

466
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: Dolsano's former champion, Charles Olavera current champion, and Rodriguez pretty

467
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: clearly at this point is should not be anyone's you know, secret.

468
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: This guy is very legit and he's gonna do big

469
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: things with the time he has remaining in his career.

470
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Speaker 1: But you know, everything is trending in the wrong direction.

471
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: I did not like this fight for him because he

472
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to take on Sean Brady, and Sean Brady

473
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 1: is a tough customer, but that would have been more

474
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: of a ground tussle, I feel like, which maybe would

475
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: have been suiting to more of someone whould accommodate him

476
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: with that kind of an approach to the game, which

477
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: Rodriguez was not. You know, but when I saw this fight,

478
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: I was like, do Rodriguez is tough? He can strike

479
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: his ass off? He's you know he doesn't. He has

480
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: fantastic bearing under pressure. I mean, this was a really,

481
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: really tough guy to come back to. And I'll say this,

482
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: It doesna sound like I'm making excuses for for Kevin Lee,

483
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: but I really believe this. Look, if we had a

484
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: one to fifty five and one sixty five and one

485
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: seventy five pound weight class, I'm not saying Kevin Lee

486
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: would be your runaway one hundred and sixty five pound champ.

487
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: I don't know that. But do I think that the

488
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: way in which the weights are structured now with one

489
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: to fifty five, that a big jump to one seventy

490
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: And of course, you know if we had welter weight

491
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: under the one sixty five system would be one seventy five.

492
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: Do I think that this current system, dut me, does

493
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: it maximize his skill set and his size?

494
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: No?

495
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: I think it puts in between a rock and a

496
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: hard place. I don't think you're gonna get the best

497
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: out of him under those circumstances. So what the solution is,

498
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems to me like he's a

499
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: little bit all over the place, and just a lot

500
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: of things he has to get right. He showed flashes

501
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: in the first round, but I don't think he's from

502
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: my understanding, he didn't stick to his game plan for

503
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: what I could sell. His coaches were saying one thing,

504
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: which seems to be a consistent problem with him, because

505
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: then he does another. There's just a lot of things

506
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: that need to be cleaned up and ironed out. And

507
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: it sucks because he had two years off, he didn't

508
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: make any money. It had to be terrible. I feel

509
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: bad this analysis. I don't take any pleasure in it. No,

510
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: But until he really really really shakes the foundation of

511
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: what he's doing and fully resets, I don't know you're

512
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: going to get the best out of him anytime soon.

513
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean, when I did that show solo coming off

514
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 2: of that Kelvin Gastolon loss, it's like, you know, I

515
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: did the Bill Parcells quote because you know you are

516
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: what your record says you are. And I love Kelvin Gaslam,

517
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: and I think he's shown such elite flashes. He's no

518
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: longer elite when he's lost five in a row. And

519
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter at you know, when the losses pile

520
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: up to that level. Always been fighting all killers. Kevin Lee,

521
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, has been fighting all killers. But it's

522
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 2: four losses in five fights. It's two and five over

523
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: the last seven. It's only twenty eight years old. That's

524
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: why I said the extreme move of a cut might

525
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: be the thing that rattles the cage A la moreno.

526
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: And here's the quote from Dana White after the fight.

527
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Again, that's the thing we will

528
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: get together on Tuesday and talk about and figure out

529
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: what's next for him here or not here. I don't

530
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: take any pleasure in it either, Luke. But let's not

531
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: be laid the Kevin Lee not putting it together point

532
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: too long and just say Daniel Rodriguez, I think in

533
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: his past three four fights went from Wow, this is

534
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: a really exciting guy that we need to watch to like, Wow.

535
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: This guy, I mean, Luke, he looks You don't judge

536
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: somebody by looks, but he looks like a fringe guy.

537
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: But he's starting to fight like a real contender. That

538
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: boxing ability, the savviness, the toughness, he is legit. I

539
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: think you saw limitations on the ground in the first round,

540
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: although he was able to keep his back off of it.

541
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: In two and three, it is time to talk about now,

542
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: like how legit can Januel Rodriguez be because d rod

543
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: crazy tattoos crazy look in his eyes. He could bring it.

544
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: But do you see, like upward bound's your what's your

545
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: favor bound? Upper bound limits? What are his upper bound limits?

546
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: Luke well, I will say that he did struggle a

547
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: little bit on the ground, now, not enough obviously to

548
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: lose the fight, but to lose the first round. And

549
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: even then, you know, it wasn't like he had a

550
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: dynamic presence on the ground. What he was able to

551
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: do was either have defense and then nullify it by

552
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: creating separation and standing or whatever the case like, just

553
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: getting out of those scenarios. So having the good defense

554
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: is not it's critical like a it's a clearly important

555
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: component to getting back to his feet to do the

556
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: kinds of things where he is, you know, much more

557
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: more offensively capable of doing so, as long as remember,

558
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: as a real basic level of understand jiu jitsu, it's

559
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: survived defend an attack. So he's at that defense stage, right,

560
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: it comes a little bit more natural, comes a little

561
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: bit easier he's not an offensive threat there in that way.

562
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: Obviously with grind and pound on top, he might be,

563
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: but not underneath. And so to that extent, when you

564
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: look at the top of that division, I'm not saying

565
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: he's ready for Kmaro or Kolby or something like that.

566
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: But you got some, you know, Kisa two, you got

567
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: some pretty dominant wrestlers up there. I think that could

568
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: be a problem long term. But what I will say is,

569
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, we're not We're still outside. I think the

570
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: top I think he's sitting at at fifteen. You know, listen,

571
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: here's who's in front of him right now. Santiago Pons

572
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: and Nibbio, Sean Brady, Muslim Salakov and then the leech

573
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: le Jiang Lang. I think any of those fights are

574
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: great tests. Ponzinibia one stands out to me in particular

575
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: because I think that could be a great striking battle.

576
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Sean Brady, the guy who was supposed to fight Kevin Lee.

577
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: I think very highly of Sean Brady's ability. Any of

578
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: those would be pretty good. But I will to your point.

579
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: He is tough, and I can't say this enough. His composure.

580
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: He never loses bearing under any situation. Good or bad.

581
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't get too excited, he doesn't get too down

582
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: on himself. He stays real, stoic, right in the middle,

583
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: and that carries him to victory Man more often than not.

584
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the window is going to be smaller. He's

585
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: thirty four years old, I mean, in comparison Kevin Lee

586
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: only only twenty eight still, but including the Dana White

587
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: Contender series. Rodriguez now seven to one under the UFC banner,

588
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: so making noise, guys, it still has a lot to prove.

589
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: But Man, the head movement, the nastiness when he needs

590
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: to be, the long reach. He's fun at the very least.

591
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: He must see and maybe more we'll find out. But

592
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: that was a good fight that told us a lot

593
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: about both.

594
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: Luke quickly quickly, I couldn't name the two guys who

595
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: won the Ultimate Fighter. I apologize to them. I'm sure

596
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: they are very good fighters. It's nothing personal. I just

597
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: didn't watch the season. Anyone else in the cards stand

598
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: out to you?

599
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just mention I really like this card, so

600
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: I'll hit you up on the on the tough finale.

601
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: I did focus on these two fights, even though I

602
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: also didn't watch the season. Ricky Tercios, the bantam white

603
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: did get a lot of attention Luke because of his

604
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, aggressive style and sort of free flowing personality,

605
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: although he used his victory afterwards to really send a

606
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: message of love and peace that that I thought was

607
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: well received. But his victory here over Brady, is it Brady?

608
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: He stand by split decision. Yeah, it was a fun

609
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: ass fight. I didn't necessarily agree with the Paul Felder

610
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: insinuation that this is kind of like a poor man's

611
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: bonnerd Griffin, even though you know you didn't, even though

612
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: you did see determination on both I don't, you know,

613
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm not huge on Tertios, even though he's younger. He's

614
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: in his late twenties, and this is his, you know,

615
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: introduction to the big time UFC. I don't see. You know,

616
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to prove it to me long term,

617
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 2: but short term from an attraction from a guy you know,

618
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: with a lot of spunk, he really pushes a pace

619
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: and brings it. He's fun, he's wild, he can scramble.

620
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: His takedown defense over the second half of this fight improved,

621
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: which which I think ultimately what won it. Even though

622
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: he had some some rough moments on the ground, and

623
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: I even want to see more from Brady Heatstan, Luke,

624
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: because here's a guy, a wrestler who I thought his

625
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: best work in this fight was his boxing, had some

626
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: really stiff shots, overcame a cut. This was a fun

627
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: fight in the end, and I think you know, Tertio

628
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: is gonna gonna get a lot of attention because of

629
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: the look and the attitude. But I think you still

630
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: got a lot to prove long term. But a big

631
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: win for him, and did you catch it all this

632
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: this tough middleweight finale when Brian Battle came in there

633
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: and he took on a guy in last minute, Luke.

634
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: Gilbert Orbino was a late late replacement here due to

635
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: injury in the final and Urbino came with that that

636
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: same energy as like a prime ugath Urbino with the machete.

637
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: He gets his gardener. I mean, this guy was looking

638
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: to finish this fight early, Luke. But but shout out

639
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: to Brian Battle for turning it around and overcoming a

640
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: cut and getting the submission. It kind of made me

641
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: wish I'd watched the season, Luke, because these are these

642
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: are fun personalities here.

643
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I'll add to that list I feel like you did

644
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: a good job highlighting those two. I would add just

645
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: a couple of names. I thought Dustin Jacoby's win over

646
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Darren Stewart was really good. I think Stewart has since

647
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: been removed from the rankings, but he's still a good fighter.

648
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: And Dustin Jacoby. I covered this guy when he was

649
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: doing Road to Glory stuff after washing out of the

650
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: UFC the first time. To see him now up here,

651
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: you know there's probably still a limit on what he

652
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: can accomplish, but what he's accomplishing in the ease with

653
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: which he's accomplishing it pretty goddamn ipress. I would take

654
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: my hat off to Dustin Jacoby in a big way.

655
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: And then Abdul Rozack Alhassen having that huge, huge headkick

656
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: win over Alessio Dicarico. Good for him as well. J J. Alders.

657
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: By the way, seventeen seconds, our boy Dick Rico got

658
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: sent to hell, Luke, and I know he's gonna be

659
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: mad at me for that, because he's usually mad at

660
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: the media, and I didn't take any pleasure in it.

661
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 2: But that's a big, flashy win for al Hasson, who

662
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: can bring it and tough loss for Alessio, and you

663
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: did mention Stuart Luke. He was extracted from the rankings.

664
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: There's now a filling in that group, and you know,

665
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: it's a real cavity to his career there, Luke. But

666
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: hopefully the dentist can bounce back, and.

667
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can. He's very talented. But Dustin Jacoby

668
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: is really a different guy, just a totally different guy

669
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: than he used to be. Okay, let's do this finally

670
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: and once and for all. BC. I know the audience

671
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: has dealt with tons of coverage from a fight they

672
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: may or may not have cared about, but we'll close

673
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: the book on it here today. Let's do the epilogue

674
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: to Woodley and Paul. All right, so we all know

675
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: the story. Jake Paul defeated Tyron Woodley via split decision,

676
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: which is still a card that I can't wrap my

677
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: head around. If you haven't seen it. We did a

678
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: postfight show me and BC. We reacted in real time

679
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: in fact shots to BC. He did a recap for

680
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: CBS Sports HQ. I checked today. It has over two

681
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: million views, So good job with that, BC.

682
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah those are Helwani like numbers.

683
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah, they're pretty good. They're pretty good. They're

684
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: pretty good, all right. But let's get to the story

685
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: at hand. So we've kind of said how we felt

686
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: about the fight. Kind I said how we felt about

687
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: the whole experiment and everything else. What I want to

688
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: ask now is, first things first, have you changed your

689
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: view one way or the other on an idea of

690
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: a Paul and Woodley rematch.

691
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: No, I haven't changed at all, and I really look,

692
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: we're being honest. We were honest ahead of this fight.

693
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: The promotion of this fight won us over good lord

694
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: did it. It was fun as balls and I hope that,

695
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, I hope that the numbers are big for

696
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: showtime because of that, because everyone worked their ass off,

697
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: the fighters most importantly, to really sell this. But you know,

698
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: the fight didn't live up to the expectations. Even though

699
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: there were things to like about the fight. There was tense.

700
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: You did see better boxing in some ways from both

701
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: than we necessarily expected. But Luke, I don't think there's

702
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: a call for this rematch at all. Tyron Woodley got

703
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: an opportunity again. I didn't like the call that his

704
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: legacy was at stake. No, No, this is a payday

705
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: for him. Okay, could he have spun this into bigger

706
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: things with a win, maybe, yeah, But this he was

707
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: brought in as the opponent. So when you're brought in

708
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: as the opponent there in this kind of case, dude, man,

709
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: you gotta wow. And he let Jake Paul off the hook,

710
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: and I think it's what led to it not being

711
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: as exciting as it could. So from my standpoint, there's

712
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: absolutely no call for a rematch. Tyron had his opportunity,

713
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: and we've said pretty consistently, or maybe I've said, Luke,

714
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: that this bubble is gonna last as long as the

715
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: faces of this celebrity crossover bubble are making really fun fights.

716
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: Logan and Floyd didn't pan out what it could have been,

717
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: and to a lesser degree, neither did this one, Luke.

718
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: So I think the best idea if you're Jake Paul

719
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: is to move on. You're gonna have to step up

720
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 2: the level of competition, meaning somebody potentially younger, bigger, with

721
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: more legitimate boxing experience. I mean, look, it's a it's

722
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: a fine art when you're matchmaking at this level, right

723
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: the level where obviously Jake Paul's not a real fighter,

724
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: even though he's showing hints of some things to really

725
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: like giving his novice level, but you got to pick

726
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: the right upon it to move it forward. I don't

727
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: know what the call would be in terms of the

728
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: selling to get people excited about a second Woodley fight

729
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: if it happens and it's a showtime fight, and even

730
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: if we're on the you know, on the board, you

731
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: know we're gonna cover it. We're gonna do what we

732
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: have to do. But Luke, to me, Woodley missed his

733
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: opportunity to really make a big statement, get a big

734
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: money rematch, or get more opportunity short of a Hector

735
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Lombard bare knuckle fight, which by the way, I would

736
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: watch given the juicy side piece storylines right there. No,

737
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: there's no call for this, just like there's no call

738
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: for us to believe or really give any time to

739
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Jake Paul's Connor McGregor like retirement tweet that was only

740
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: backed up by a I'm back type of tweet. So

741
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to be sour here on Jake Luke,

742
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: because I thought he he really showed us a lot

743
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: in terms of the poise and the boxing. But I

744
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: really let me hold this question Luke, I don't want

745
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: to go too far. Do you agree with me on

746
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: that regard that, to be really honest, there's no need

747
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: for this rematch.

748
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: I agree completely, yes, all right, then you have another one.

749
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Then let me ask you this.

750
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

751
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: I was critical of Floyd after the Logan fight, saying,

752
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: your job is to knock out Logan Paul in that spot, right,

753
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: or at least try to do it. And I think

754
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: you and I both agreed that Floyd got to a point. Look,

755
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: it was an exhibition. There was gonna be no winner

756
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: or a loser short of a knockout, right, that Floyd

757
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: got to a point where well maybe this guy's a

758
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: little bigger, faster, younger than I expected. Yeah, I can win.

759
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: And I think Floyd, if we were judging that fight,

760
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: won that fight. But afterwards, Luke I sort of said, look,

761
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: you're Floyd Mayweather. You're expected to go out there and

762
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: knock out this novice, and you didn't do it. And

763
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: I gave the criticism to him for not necessarily going

764
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: after it. Do you think Jake Paul deserves the same

765
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: level of criticism here, even though it's a different scenario

766
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: When people are tuning into this fight to see one

767
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: of you get knocked out. And it's not that they

768
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: didn't try for the knockout, but there were elements on

769
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: both sides of trying to balance stamina to go the

770
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: full eight rounds given their experience. And you know, we

771
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: talked about Wodley not throwing enough. Certainly, do you think

772
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: Jake deserves a certain level of criticism that says like,

773
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: we're tuning in not to watch a novice get better

774
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: at boxing, We're tuning in to find out whether you're

775
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: for real or not. Specifically through the lens of did

776
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: you knock out the other guy or did you get

777
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: knocked out? Did he do enough to force that equation

778
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: in your eyes?

779
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Lib? No, no he did not. But two things I

780
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: would say. One is you have to ask yourself, did

781
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Jake Paul exercise you know, relatively speaking, the majority of

782
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: his skill to get that win? In other words, you know,

783
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: was there a lot left in the tank he could

784
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: have gone to to push the fight further? I mean, yes,

785
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: you can always do more, you can kom a case

786
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: it till the nth degree. But in terms of like

787
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: a responsible stay within your skill set perspective, no, I

788
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: think he kind of emptied the tank. I think you

789
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: saw he what he's got. He couldn't do a whole

790
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: lot more without really absorbing a lot more risk. But

791
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this BC on its face, you know, and

792
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Woodley's claims for wanting the rematch, none of them really

793
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: ring true to me. They just they just you know, listen.

794
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: And also, Woodley is smart. You know. Woodley is a

795
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: bright guy. He knows that the payday he got for this,

796
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: just his base pay was two million for this. To say,

797
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: whatever else he's going to get on top of that,

798
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: he's going to get a huge fat check. And if

799
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: you can get two of those fat checks, hey man,

800
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: you're living pretty nice. So he knew he had a

801
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: job to do once the microphone was in his face

802
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: about what he had to sell. The one thing I

803
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: will say in his defense, but what he knows he

804
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: has going for him is, dude, Tyron Woodley in many

805
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: ways was pretty close to the perfect opponent. In fact,

806
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: the MMA side of things is the perfect opponent. I

807
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: made this point previously, by I didn't quite crystallize it.

808
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: I think I've got a better handle on it obviously.

809
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: I want to pitch it to you The reason why

810
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of like, well, the Tommy Fury

811
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: fight's there, I don't really believe in the rematch. I

812
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: guess we can just do that, but there's not all

813
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: that much enthusiasm for it is because dude MMA being

814
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: there and being a broken business model is perfect for

815
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Jake Paul. Think of it this way. If MMA didn't

816
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: exist and Jake Paul wanted to do this, what could

817
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: he do to get the kind of credibility that beating

818
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: Tyron Woodley offers. You could go to kickboxers, but no

819
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: one knows who they are. You could go to old boxers,

820
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling the old boxer would either

821
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: be still too good or just too old. In either case,

822
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be the same kind of transfer of credibility

823
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: that beating someone who is a uf former UFC champion,

824
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: because folks know who UFC fighters are, they know who

825
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: UFC champions are, so you've got that credibility, You've got

826
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: that stature he reached in that organization, and striking's kind

827
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: of a close cousin to boxing, so you have this

828
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: whole universe of guys that offer you enough credibility athletically

829
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: but are challenged in terms of the actual skill set.

830
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Now you add on top of that that basically MMA

831
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: is under something approximating monopolistic control, So you're only going

832
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: to get them at the end, and you're going to

833
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: offer them paydays that they basically could not get in

834
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: the other sport. Dude, MMA guys at the end of

835
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: their career are perfect for Jake Paul. Tommy Fury does

836
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: not offer them in that way. You have beat Tommy Fury,

837
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: you might sell a ton of tickets in the UK

838
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: and they might go that way and do a bunch

839
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: of big business, but beating him doesn't offer you the

840
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: same kind of credibility you can sell to the public

841
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: anyway that beating Tyron Woodley does. So Woodley knows for

842
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: those reasons, he's still going to be an attractive offer.

843
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I almost see it it flipped in

844
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: a sense, meaning if this had been the Tommy Fury

845
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: fight and Jake Paul had put forth what he did,

846
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: which was kind of a smart boxing performance, you go, Okay,

847
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: he outboxed an actual boxer, But when he's going in

848
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: there with an MMA fighter who's older and doesn't have

849
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: the same boxing experience, although you know with the questions

850
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: that we didn't know coming in, we didn't know if

851
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 2: Woodley was just gonna come in there and have better

852
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: hands and movement and all that. I almost feel like

853
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: you kind of have to knock this guy out to

854
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: keep the same level of excitement going with the train,

855
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: because Luke, unless you believe that this bubble has nine

856
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: lives like a future champion Kevin Lee, I don't know

857
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: how many more times you can keep not delivering the

858
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: boom at the end to keep that casual base satisfied.

859
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: And you know that the casual base is what sells

860
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: all pay per views in the long run for the

861
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: most part, or at least pay per views that go up,

862
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: you know, or over the million mark. But certainly in

863
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: this type of fight, it's heavy marketing at those same casuals.

864
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know. I wonder if

865
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: going for a knockout and getting knocked out trying it

866
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: would have been better for the overall bubble here setting

867
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: up a rematch now, I don't see the hook of

868
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: the rematch, and I think Team Paul is gonna have

869
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: to get really creative and finding the perfect opponent next

870
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: that satisfies all those those things that say he's moving

871
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: closer to the legitimacy.

872
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing I would say is I had

873
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: a similar feel and I still do. Like, at some point,

874
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, people have to be like, wow, just see

875
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: the fight. The fight was great. I don't think anyone's

876
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: really saying that he's not. I mean some have, but

877
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like it wasn't an overwhelming like wow,

878
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: that fight was amazing, even though it did have moments

879
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: of tension, and obviously Woodley was I think we can

880
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: both agree, probably robbed of a knockdown. But the one

881
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: thing I would say is is, like, dude, Floyd's fights

882
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: weren't exciting for a long time, people kept buying them.

883
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously there's a million I get it, there's

884
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: a million differences with Floyd, But at the same time, dude,

885
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: everyone was like, you know, his critics would be like,

886
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: don't give him money, He's just gonna do the same

887
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: thing he always does, and then people still do it again.

888
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's the highest, highest, highest, highest end of

889
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: the of the spectrum for the most part, you know,

890
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: the Logan fight notwithstanding, but he did face a lot

891
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: of the criticisms, and it never really seemed to affect.

892
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a major difference. His hard lean into

893
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: making the pursuit of the undefeated record and besting Rocky

894
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: Marciano and all that. That was a big part of

895
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: the selling. He was also more polarizing than Jake Paul

896
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: at his best in terms of knowing how to pull

897
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: the money out of people's wallets to hopefully see him

898
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: lose in the trash talk and the TB and all that,

899
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: not to mention that that's real boxing, where that's sort

900
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: of allowed, where you can have a skill set in

901
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: that avenue and it can still be respected and even marketable.

902
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you, Luke, is there room in the

903
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: celebrity bubble for actual boxing? I don't think there is.

904
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: I think the celebrity bubble is by nature foundationally a

905
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: shit show and it needs the threat of a knockout.

906
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: It's the same thing I said about XFL or any

907
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: football league that's not the top of the end professional.

908
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: If you don't have vibrant personalities or over the top

909
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: violence or crazy rules that increase scoring, you have second

910
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: rate football in the celebrity boxing bubble. If you got okay, boxers,

911
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: you have second rate boxing. People want slugfests. They'll pay

912
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: for this ship show if they're gonna get a slug fest.

913
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. For the long term marketability of

914
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: this bubble, you gotta go after it. And maybe that

915
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: means getting really careful in your matchmaking, bringing in guys

916
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: who still have a threat, but you know, we'll bring

917
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: it and get themselves knocked out in the process. Maybe

918
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: that's what you have to do. Woodley was almost too

919
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: good in that regard, but yet not good enough to

920
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: win it. It's tough, Luke. You can't script these it's

921
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: not pro wrestling, you got it. You can build the

922
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: fight up the best you can, and they did an

923
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: amazing job, but when you roll it out there, it's

924
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: the fight that that that gets you the next paycheck.

925
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: Though, at the end of the day, no listen, I'm

926
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: in I'm saying these things about Floyd almost rhetorically, and

927
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that I believe them, but I'm always

928
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: trying to check ourselves where.

929
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Before we wreck ourselves. Yeah I know.

930
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, also so that you know our biases about

931
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: what we like and what we think is important, you know,

932
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: may not may not really matter in the larger marketplace.

933
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: The fact that it's boring seems to me. I'm not

934
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, boring might be a strong word, you know,

935
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: wasn't thrilling for us? That seems like it's a limiting factor.

936
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: Maybe for the public, it's not. I don't know. We'll

937
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: we'll have to end up seeing I tend to think

938
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: you're right. I tend to think that's exactly what's gonna happen.

939
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: But only time, we'll tell all right, let's move on

940
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: and get rid of that for just a second if

941
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: we can, and get.

942
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 2: Back out of here, get that out here.

943
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: We're done. We're done. Uh, let's go to topic number three,

944
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: not the biggest topic, but pretty dang good in terms

945
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: of what it sets up. So now we know exactly

946
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with UFC two sixty eight. We're gonna

947
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: get a lot of different stuff on it. First of all,

948
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: kamor Usman taking on Colby Covington will be your main

949
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: event for the UFC walterweight title. Banger, can't wait for it.

950
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: Your comain Rose not Unis versus Zangway Lee too. They're

951
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: gonna run that one back, which I don't necessarily love,

952
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: but I kind of get. I don't hate the fight,

953
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: you know in terms of, hey, Rose is gonna fight

954
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: way Lee won't. Don't you like that on those simple terms, Yes,

955
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: of course I do. And let me read the rest

956
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: of the card here. By the way, this will take place,

957
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: I believe at Madison Square Garden. Uh, Justin Gatgee versus

958
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler, which is going to be a three rounder,

959
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: not a five. Sean Strickland taken on Luke Rockhold, Frankie

960
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: Edgar versus Cheeto Vera, Jermaine Derando me versus Irena Aldonna,

961
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: which is, by the way, sleeper fight if ever was one.

962
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: And then Aliaquinta is back taking on Bobby Green. Dude,

963
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: what can you say about this card and coorts the

964
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: championship fights other than completely fucking stacked? Yo?

965
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: This card and did you mention the actual news that

966
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: it's Rosenama unis Jean Wailly too as the co main event?

967
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, this card is like, it is awesome

968
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: and I love it, Luke, because you know, I grew

969
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: up ninety minutes from New York City, the you know,

970
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden. To me anything at the Garden is

971
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: still the biggest thing you can do concert, circus, hockey, game, fight, whatever.

972
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: So when UFC commits to making the MSG cards, especially

973
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: after all those years of MMA being banned in New York,

974
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: it's me fired up that that is a major right,

975
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Like golf majors, UFC has majors, right. You know you

976
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: IFW weekend, You've got New Year's Eve weekend, and you

977
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: got this MSG card, so it's freaking loaded. So luke,

978
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: if I'm Canelo, by the way, who's also going this

979
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: night against Caleb Plant in Las Vegas? I don't know, man.

980
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's a different scenario than when then

981
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: Canelo fought cerge Kovlev on his oonne and they made

982
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: that very controversial decision to delay the main event by

983
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: like ninety minutes so that the BMF fight could take

984
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: place in Madison Square Garden on the UFC pay per view,

985
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: and you know, we saw Canelo and cove Lev with

986
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: their feet up on the couch. I mean it was embarrassing.

987
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: I watched the BMF fight from the Canelo Arena that

988
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: night at the MGM Grant, so I'm almost if you're Canelo,

989
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want to move nights because that's

990
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: a and the reason why I say it'd be different

991
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: from his owne because the zone's not doing the fight.

992
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a PBC pay per view, either on

993
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: showtime or on Fox. I don't know, Luke, you started

994
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: a different You can't be going head to head with

995
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: this like this. I mean, this is a loaded card

996
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: to the level of what do you think that this

997
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: decision making was by the UFC to put Rose Wayley

998
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: too when there was a storyline for Rose and Cookie

999
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: Monster in the rematch of the inaugural women's strawweight title fight,

1000
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: And that's a fight I think, you know, even though

1001
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Aspars is coming off a great win and she's on

1002
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: a great run, I think that's a fight you're gonna

1003
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: believe Rose would win at this level and still set

1004
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: up this fight anyway, What do you think the decision

1005
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: making is when this card's already stacked to just break

1006
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: glass and go screw it. We're doing Rose Wayley too

1007
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: right now.

1008
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: I tend to think for maybe the same reason they

1009
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: ran back Rose and JJ. You know, like you whatever

1010
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: you got that first time just wasn't representative of what

1011
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: the broader fight should be not that the result would change,

1012
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: but that you know, listen, this was her first fight

1013
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: after the pandemic. She had to travel further than anybody.

1014
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: There was a lot of situations even there where she

1015
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: had to kind of accommodate things. She was getting booed

1016
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: in the arena, you know, and she got hit with

1017
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: the head kick or whatever. It was like, I have

1018
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: to go back and look, but you know, you just

1019
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: didn't get You didn't get the fight you were supposed

1020
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: to get. Even though Rose might like I'm gonna pick

1021
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: Rose this time to win, Like I tend to think

1022
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: that's just the way it's going to go. So their

1023
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: part might be that I think they just you know,

1024
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: it's a bigger fight internationally obviously, if if if Jangwai

1025
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Lee can get back on the horse and she can win,

1026
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it restarts everything that they're trying to

1027
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: build in the Chinese market. Not that every single fight

1028
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: hinges on what they need to do and what they

1029
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: can do, but you know, just getting back with the

1030
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, oh, let's let's let's reconstitute our efforts and

1031
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: let's have a UFC champion behind us to do it

1032
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: makes a big, big difference obviously entering that market solo

1033
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: and listen, listen, I want you.

1034
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't want China.

1035
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Les less than the last thing. Last thing. This isn't

1036
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: the way that fights should be made, but we know

1037
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: sometimes they are made this way for all the other

1038
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: reasons I mentioned on top of it. Just what's a

1039
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: better fight Rose versus Uh or Rose versus ASPARSA two.

1040
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's the easier call.

1041
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I mean it has

1042
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: a chance to make this card, which already is epic

1043
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: on paper. I mean Usman Covington was a four and

1044
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: a half round, you know, fight of the year when

1045
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: it happened, Gay chie Chandler, I don't care if it's

1046
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: one round, Luke, It's going to be the best fight

1047
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: of the night. There's so many storylines, but the answer

1048
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: probably is China, and I don't think we should ever

1049
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: look past the marketing, you know, concerns, and we'd all

1050
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, that's probably the answer. But hey, great fight.

1051
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: Maybe it plays out like Rose Yoanna to where the

1052
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: first one ended, you know, quickly and powerfully, but the

1053
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: second one was more representation of how even the match

1054
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: this is and their strengths and weaknesses, So we'll see

1055
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: back quickly to that Canelo point, Luke, we don't even

1056
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: know which network is going to put that on, so

1057
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: it's hard to really get a gauge. But what do

1058
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: you think is the responsive, responsible move? Just go head

1059
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: to head and say, look, we're different sports. We believe

1060
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: in our product, and look Canelo trying to become an

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00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: undisputed champion against an undefeated fighter who's got a certain

1062
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: level of marketing like Kayleb Plant. It's a great fight.

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00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: Do you put it on earlier? Do you start the

1064
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: pay per view at seven pm? Do you put it

1065
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: on later? Luke? Do you go another day? What do

1066
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: you do?

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00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: I tend to think you maybe could put it on

1068
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: slightly earlier, but then you begin to mess with your

1069
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: West Coast audiences. I just think if you're promoting Canelo

1070
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: versus Caleb Plant, you have to ask yourself how many

1071
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: people are looking at their wallet and saying, well, it's

1072
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: either going to be Canelo versus Plant or it's going

1073
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: to be UFC two sixty eight. I think it's very

1074
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: few people, to be quite honest with you, there is

1075
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: overlap between MMA and boxing audiences, especially in ways that

1076
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: there never used to be. But they're lined up in

1077
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: certain cases along the Jake Paul thing or hey, let's

1078
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: pay attention to what Clarissa's Shields is doing. It's less

1079
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: about you know, I actually like both in an equal

1080
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: way and don't know how to apportion my dollars. The

1081
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: media can be distinct, the fan base can be distinct. Certainly,

1082
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: the location in this particular case is distinct. There's enough

1083
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: reasons to think that, yes, running head to head is

1084
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: not necessarily the best thing to do. But you're talking

1085
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: about the number number one pound for pound guy in

1086
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: boxing trying to unify a weight class, and on the

1087
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: other side of the country it is just a bunch

1088
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: of MMA fighters and they're very very good. I don't

1089
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: mean to mean them. I just mean to say, if

1090
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: you're Canelo, it's kind of divorced from your universe to

1091
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: a pretty strong degree. So while I do think they

1092
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: should try and squeeze in the result, we'll have the

1093
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: main event start long before the UFC's main event starting,

1094
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: and if they get a five round fight in the

1095
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: comame in the women's fight, then they get that, you know,

1096
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: no no problem. But other than that, I think it's

1097
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: just full steam ahead. To be honest with you, Yes,

1098
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: it's tough.

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00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's always a tough decision to say, either

1100
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: we know we're competing against other big combat events, so

1101
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: let's not go the same night, or at some point

1102
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: you just say we have a great product, we're here whatever.

1103
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I it's a selfish fan and journalist

1104
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 2: in me who doesn't want to compete against both, wants

1105
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: to watch both with the same you know, eyes in

1106
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: the moment. But uh, I kind of wish the biggest,

1107
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: you know, and when Canelo fights, it is arguably the

1108
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: biggest fighter there. I wish it wouldn't go head to

1109
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: head with a UFC card that also could say it's

1110
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: the biggest card of the year. I mean that was

1111
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: your initial question, Luke. Is this the best fight card

1112
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: on paper UFC's put out this show?

1113
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, HiT's up there. If it's not, I've struggled to

1114
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: understand what could be number one. This is a very

1115
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: very very thorough really good fight card. All right, let's

1116
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: move very quickly and not a big topic, not a

1117
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: whole lot to say about it, But there was some

1118
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: interesting things that happened last night. For topic number four

1119
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: on Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender Series. It is back.

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Speaker 1: This is the beginning of a new season. There were

1121
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: some winners, there were some losers. I'll get to them

1122
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: in just a second. BC. First things first, though, we

1123
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: did have a little bit of history last night. Lori

1124
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: Senko served not just as a commentator but as a

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00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: color commentator. And it's hard to know exactly how it's

1126
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: hard to describe exactly what how historically significant this is

1127
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: because the only woman to fully commentate a UFC event

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00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: was UFC one Kathy Long, who, by the way, is

1129
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: now two to zero in MMA, although she's obviously a

1130
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: little bit older, but was a decorated more artist. Since then,

1131
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: no woman has touched a UFC broadcast in terms of

1132
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: being in that booth. Now, obviously the Contender Series is

1133
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: not part of the pay per view Fight Night lineage,

1134
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: but that's a UFC promoted event. Everyone who wins, basically

1135
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: not quiet, but basically the last two seasons anyway, ends

1136
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: up getting a UFC contract. She not only commentated, she

1137
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: did ring announcing and post fight interviews. But I gotta say, dude,

1138
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: it is it is high time that we had some

1139
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: women commentators. Laura Cenko has deserving in this opportunity. She

1140
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: is an excellent broadcaster and I have nothing but congratulations

1141
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: for her. We're all richer for her analysis.

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00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: First of all, to juggle all those roles, I was like,

1143
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: she's ring announcing what like that. You know there's specific

1144
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, voices you need in mindsets, you need to

1145
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: be able to do all those roles, so I'll shout

1146
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: it out. And then obviously, as you mentioned, we've seen women,

1147
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, Megan o' levey's fantastic, We've seen Karen Bryan

1148
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: and who's the other one, Luke the she's she's great,

1149
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: and Heidi Andral who I was gonna say who works

1150
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 2: for PBC on five and also does ESPN UFC. And

1151
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: then had the famous meme during the Ronda Rousey Strikeforce interview,

1152
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: which was a great moment in MMBA history. But to

1153
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: be able to actually break down fights, which is what

1154
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: a collar commentator does, Luke, this was a step up.

1155
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: It was you know, historical, as you mentioned, even though

1156
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: it's like it's just crazy that you pre you know,

1157
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: pre Zoofa, it's already been done, I mean UFC one,

1158
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 2: it's already been done. It's like you forget Long Ever

1159
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: did that? You know, I mean, forget Jim Brown ever

1160
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 2: did that for crap's sake. But I think the best

1161
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: compliment I meant I can say is this, Luke, the

1162
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: thing you're gonna judge the most critically of somebody in

1163
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: this spot where there's a lot of pressure and it's

1164
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: you know, sort of a historic moment, is you know,

1165
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: can she actually break down the fights? I think the

1166
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: best thing she showed last night was her ability mid

1167
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: fight to break down what's going on. And obviously, you know,

1168
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: it's different compared to others who could have this role

1169
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: because Laura has a fighting background. But I thought she

1170
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: was absolutely fantastic in breaking down the stances and the

1171
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: openings and all that. I mean, some of the other

1172
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: things that come with that job, the timing, the banter,

1173
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: some of that only you know, you're only going to

1174
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: get better with experience. But the most important thing you

1175
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: bring as a color commentator is the ability to see

1176
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: the action in front of you and relay, whether in

1177
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: expert terms or whether in simple terms, for the for

1178
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: the non educated audience to understand what's happening. And I

1179
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: thought she did a great job with that, so a

1180
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: big moment for Laura Sanko, and she delivered Luke, it

1181
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: was great to see.

1182
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: The only thing I want to say is I'm not

1183
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: one of these guys who's going to lecture the audience,

1184
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: like you need to make sure that you have a

1185
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: checklist of every different you know, gender and racial identity

1186
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: and background and age, and you have someone from every

1187
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: one of those who's constantly given you information like I don't.

1188
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think that's realistic. But what I will

1189
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: say is what someone put a challenge to me one time,

1190
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: which was, make a list of all forever, whatever sport

1191
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: you consume with it's MMA or football, whatever, make a

1192
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: list of all the podcasts that are in your rotation

1193
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: on your phone. Make a list of all the authors

1194
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: you go to, make a list of all the commentators

1195
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: who are your favorite, put them all on a piece

1196
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: of paper, and then go down the list and see

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00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: how many are women. And I did that and I

1198
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: had almost none. I had almost none. All the guys

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: I read were, of course guys. All my podcasts were

1200
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: hosted by guys. Whatever. It was just constantly all the

1201
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: way down. There's nothing wrong with those guys doing their

1202
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: best effort. But I just mean to say the women

1203
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: play a pretty big role in the UFC at this point.

1204
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: There's no good reason why there's asymmetry between that and

1205
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: then how many are serving in commentary roles. I guess

1206
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: there's not very many. Commentary roles are hard to get,

1207
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: but I'm just pointing out it can't always be true

1208
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: that only the guys do the very very best job.

1209
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: It's just it's not possible. So when you begin to

1210
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: rotate in fresher faces across you know, all these different lines,

1211
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: this particular case of gender line, you're casting a wider

1212
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: net of getting the best available talent, and Laura Sanko

1213
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: obviously is the first, hopefully among many. But if you

1214
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: ever been out there, audit yourself, see what you do.

1215
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: And I was shocked. I didn't even think of it

1216
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: on those terms. And so now I'm trying to be

1217
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more conscious of casting a wider net

1218
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: out there. But I don't think many MMA fans have

1219
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: female voices in their ear telling them about technique, and

1220
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: I think that's actually pretty important. And Laura Seko does

1221
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: a great job.

1222
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: Now as real real quick, you know, I had forgotten.

1223
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: I always forget that she was a fighter, and maybe

1224
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: that's a nod how well she does in some of

1225
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: those like hosting presenting roles where you know that that

1226
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: background isn't necessarily you know, a prerequisite she has, want

1227
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: to know, as a professional. Look, did you see her

1228
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: fight in twenty thirteen in victa FC four against Casey

1229
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Rob or Cassie Rob. Excuse me, I mean, did you

1230
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: why did her career end? Do you know anything about that?

1231
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: I know she was uh, she got four amateur, she

1232
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: got pregnant, okay, and she had a kid, and so

1233
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: everything just kind of turned after that. But she didn't

1234
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: want to give up what she was doing. And you know, listen,

1235
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: they put her in those roles. Listen, if you get

1236
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: a role doing the kind of hosting thing as you

1237
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: imagined for UFC, that's still a great accomplishment. There's nothing

1238
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: in any way you know, wrong that they're they're they're

1239
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: limited too, and they're hard to get and she's good

1240
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: at that. But like you know, you just have to

1241
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: ask yourself, is that what she's best suited for. I

1242
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think what she's best suited for

1243
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: is analytical work. We're just not accustomed to hearing women

1244
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: in our ear say things like hey, good stance or

1245
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, whatever it may be. And I think

1246
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: it's high time that we, you know, get rid of

1247
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: some of that asymmetry between how important they are as

1248
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: fighters and then what kind of role they play us

1249
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: complicators or analysts.

1250
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: So we said a quick shout out on the boxing side.

1251
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks back. I don't think we've mentioned

1252
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: on the show, but Top Rank had a card where

1253
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: they had two women calling the international feed of the broadcast,

1254
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: and it was Christina Poncher, who does great work calling

1255
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: uh you know, undercards for toppering on ESPN and the

1256
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: international broadcast, and they brought in MICHAELA. Mayer, who is

1257
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: an unbeaten championship female fighter, and that was great to

1258
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: see as well, Luke, I mean.

1259
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Hi time and the results themselves, BC,

1260
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw any of this, it

1261
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: was an oak. Yeah, it was an okay for me.

1262
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: The two standouts were A. J. Fletcher with that unbelievable

1263
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: well timed flying me. I loved it and his whole

1264
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: fam went crazy. Back there, they had footage of it,

1265
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: which was great, But the big one for me was

1266
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: the guy. The guy who really stood out was Asamot

1267
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: Murzakhanov Uh. He defeated Mattheus Scheffle first round three minutes

1268
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: in too he set up his punches brilliantly. This guy

1269
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: is ten and zero. I thought Dana White was right.

1270
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: He could go down to one eighty five even though

1271
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: a two oh five he's still a hammer.

1272
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: But he's a hamd man.

1273
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: These Russians, they're just so many of them, and they're

1274
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: all so good.

1275
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: Dude. I mean, can we do a tough season at

1276
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: the Schmesh Factory now, because I think it's it's high

1277
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: time for that Luke. That was a hell of a performance.

1278
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: I mean it was sort of like you're you look

1279
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: at them match up and you know, no disrespect to

1280
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: his opponent, who was a Cheffle as you mentioned, but

1281
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: like you sort of looked at that matchup, we go, oh, oh,

1282
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: the Russian guy's gonna hammer him. And he did exactly that.

1283
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: So that's a big win in the main event of

1284
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: this card on a big, you know platform in the

1285
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: first episode of this season, but a J Fletcher man

1286
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: with that backstory coming from Lafayette, Louisiana, and you know

1287
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: how hard that area, Luke, of the country just got

1288
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: hit by the by the hurricane and to be able

1289
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: to get that spectacular of a win that was heavy

1290
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: on spinny shit and the celebration and the passion, and

1291
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: I want to see more of that guy. And you know, look,

1292
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: sometimes we tie in the fighter pay conversation to this

1293
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: series because it produces just batshit hungry people looking to

1294
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: go get finishes to impress Dana. And sometimes the Brendan

1295
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Locknan's slipped through the cracks where they get a win,

1296
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: but Dana doesn't think they were aggressive enough, it doesn't

1297
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: get a contract. Louke, how about this four fights on

1298
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: last night's show, Five fighters got a contract, including the

1299
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: loser of that flyweight three round fight between Victor Altamurano

1300
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: and Carlos Candeliero that was good to see. Do you

1301
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: think that's because though of the the COVID uncertainty and

1302
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: just having more hands on deck, especially people that don't

1303
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: make a lot of money, can fill up some of

1304
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: these cards. Luc Ormight being ultracitical here.

1305
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I mean the reality is

1306
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: they were giving I mean, basically, if you won last season,

1307
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: which again was when the middle of the middle middle,

1308
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: middle of the pandemic, whatever stage we're in now, they

1309
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: were if you won, they were just handing out contract

1310
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: because they just need to fill the roster for turnover.

1311
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I think you're going to get some of that. Kendelario. Also,

1312
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, listen, that was a tough fight. It was

1313
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: a split decision of loss. It wasn't like he got

1314
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: run over by any stretch of the imagination. They're looking

1315
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: for guys in certain weight classes and certain numbers. You know,

1316
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: he passed the test. I don't really have any issue

1317
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: with it. The one I did not like was the

1318
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: Brito in Lopez fight. Dude, if you guys didn't see it,

1319
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: both guys seem to be good fighters, you could give

1320
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: him a contract or not. Brito got one, it's fine.

1321
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: But Diego Lopez got poked in the eye three times.

1322
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: More than that, maybe even four times, but at least

1323
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: two times before the fight end. Well, yeah, the fight

1324
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: ending ipoke. He was warned by the referee, Chris Toinoni,

1325
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: and the referee not only just said like you don't

1326
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: watch their hands, blah bah, blah. There's one point where

1327
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: he stopped the fight to warn the guy, you'll watch

1328
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: out with your fucking hands where you're putting them. In

1329
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: the third round, he then pokes the guy in the

1330
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: I diego Lopez. They have to stop the fight. He

1331
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: can't continue now, Toyoni took a point because at that point,

1332
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: if it goes to the third round, you have to

1333
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: go to the judge's scorecards. But there wasn't much time

1334
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: in the round. First of all, thirty two seconds had expired,

1335
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: so you didn't get to see hardly shit. He then

1336
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: he got poked. It's like, let me get this straight.

1337
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: This guy poked another person in the eye so many

1338
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: times that the other guy couldn't continue, and he ends

1339
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: up winning a result as a consequence. I understand that

1340
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to set up a situation where if

1341
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: you get I poked and the guy just pretends that

1342
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: he is worse than he is, that you just award

1343
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: him to win. I'm happy to call it a no

1344
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: contest or. I would actually argue Brito probably deserves a

1345
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: disqualification here, But I understand why the rules are set

1346
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: up the way they are, but it creates weird ass

1347
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: results like this where Brito ends up just poking the

1348
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: guy enough where he can't fight anymore, and then he

1349
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: gets his fucking hand raised. Not okay with that rule.

1350
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all.

1351
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: And then he gets a contract, Luke.

1352
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and Lopez did not get a contract.

1353
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, yeah, you know you lost out

1354
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: on four and a half minutes of the most critical

1355
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: fight of your life, maybe because the other guy kept

1356
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: poking you in the fucking eye.

1357
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's not a good rule, Lopez. Underwater dicey

1358
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: situation there. But Brito gets the nod, gets the contract,

1359
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: and we move on, Luke.

1360
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: On this, I know I know what you did there.

1361
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: I know what you did there. I just want to

1362
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: say it out loud. I know what you did there.

1363
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the last and final topic,

1364
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: just to set of quick hitters. Who the he?

1365
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is Johan Africa?

1366
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: Bro? You know what I mean? All right, let's go

1367
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: to our quick hitters now if we can. A bunch

1368
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: of these, but we'll get to the first one that's

1369
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: pretty easy to digest. BC loves this shit. I'm so

1370
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: out on it. I don't care. We've got some tweets

1371
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: about it. Let's see them here. Connor McGregor and Nate

1372
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: Diaz just going after each other on Twitter. BC. You

1373
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: were texting me frothing at the mouth like a rabbit dog.

1374
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: I walk like, hey, what.

1375
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: Is so important about these two killing each other on Twitter?

1376
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: Okay? I was just like, hey, wake up to this.

1377
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: It's not one or two tweets, It's like thirty eight

1378
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: of them, and this is heating up a bit. Maybe

1379
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: we should work it into the show, Luke, Okay, not

1380
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: have me have to design some wheel a death segment

1381
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: to get it in there, but Luke, it kind of aggressive,

1382
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: and it was. It started off with I don't know

1383
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: where it started off with. I know espn MMA account

1384
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: put out a you know, hey, remember when Connor versus

1385
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: Nate and Nate started talking trash back to it. Maybe

1386
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: we can blow up some of these tweets to get

1387
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: a feel for the take here, gaff Ermanich are great

1388
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: folks who work on this show. Yeah, Connor mentioning that

1389
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: he's adding thirty pounds of muscle to say ding ding,

1390
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: Nate saying, Bro, you can't walk or fight right now

1391
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: while you're talking shit. Well, it kept escalating. If we

1392
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: can keep advancing the slides here, Connor's like, who can't

1393
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: come through and see you, a little skinny fool, You'd

1394
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: be smacked up and rolled up, you bum callous mind.

1395
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: Cally's mind.

1396
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Like California.

1397
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about here. Yeah, it's

1398
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: Social Justice Wednesday. This is where BC tries to decode

1399
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: hip took on Twitter. Now, bitch, says Nate, you should

1400
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: have learned how to not break your leg when I

1401
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: checked your shit. You crutched out of the fight with me.

1402
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 2: And how you're gonna fight me when you can't run

1403
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: for your life this time with your broken ass. You

1404
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: lost the last fight and ran for the hills, just

1405
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: like Kebab. You're a pussy too, all right.

1406
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: I love how Dana White wait Nate Diaz never calls

1407
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: Habib habib. It's always Kabab every time.

1408
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 2: Yes, and he brought an interesting point. Connor did use

1409
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: movement in boxing in that second fight to be able

1410
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: to survive, although he was obviously very good with his hands,

1411
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: but there were some down moments of stamina dumps for

1412
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: Connor where he really had to man, he had to

1413
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: get on his horse. It continues, Is there any other

1414
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: juicy ones here? Many so we can roll to? Nate

1415
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: says that means I'm the double triple champ of this

1416
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: whole shit. Fuck all you pussies. Yeah, into the belly,

1417
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: says Connor, when I get you. All right, this is

1418
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: getting lamed now. But the whole point is this, Luke.

1419
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh hey, here's Nate ps you jump ship on your country, bitch,

1420
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: go home. You don't got any friends, all right? That's

1421
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: Nate saying I still reside in the two o nine, right, Yeah, dude.

1422
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about anything.

1423
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: All right. Look, the point of this is this, Okay,

1424
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: the point of me bringing this And there's a there's

1425
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: a there's a bunch of them. There's a bunch of them. Okay,

1426
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: Oh wait, go back to that last one. Nate loves

1427
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: saying kebab uh.

1428
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: You know, he only says kebab.

1429
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: It's so he did slap kebab in front of his team, right, dude.

1430
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: I like how he takes that as like a win.

1431
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, he takes sure he actually made contact with

1432
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: him for starters and more to the point, it's like,

1433
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, DUDEBI would do bad things to Nate Diaz,

1434
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: but okay, you know, you know.

1435
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: He takes Poorier pulling out of that fight at MSG,

1436
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: even though to Poorier's point, Nate and the UFC weren't

1437
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: getting you know, weren't making headway on the contract sous

1438
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: Dustin was just sort of like, I'm gonna move on.

1439
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: He takes those as wins, Luke, so he is undefeated.

1440
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: All right. Here's the point of me break bringing you

1441
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: down this road is to say this, I'm starting to

1442
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: feel like because of everything Connor has been publicly sensed,

1443
01:05:54,200 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: the second straight loss to Poorier, which is emotional, like bitter.

1444
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been running the full gamut of emotions

1445
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: that probably come with a big name fighter coming off

1446
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: a loss and a serious injury. Just most people don't

1447
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: broadcast it twenty four to seven with Twitter videos and

1448
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: riding around on a bicycle and all that, Luke. But

1449
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: the full gamut I think has kind of softened us

1450
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: even more to like what Connor can actually be when

1451
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: he comes back. The intensity of this injury, all that shit.

1452
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: I think Poorier is going in the direction of the title,

1453
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: and I think he should. And yes, I know at

1454
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: any point Connor can get healthy enough to come back,

1455
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: and the UFC just goes, Hey, Poorier's the champ. Let's

1456
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: milk what's left to Connor and we'll run it back

1457
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: a fourth time. I know that can happen, but I'm

1458
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: starting to think, Luke, that maybe the UFC is starting

1459
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 2: to think here that cashing in that lottery ticket, which

1460
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: is Diaz McGregor three, which has been around now for

1461
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: five years, and we've always said they'll get to it eventually,

1462
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: right when they're both older and coming off losses and

1463
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: it's the only fight left. Tell me if I'm wrong here, Luke,

1464
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: this might actually be the UFC's smartest move here. Okay, yes,

1465
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: if this might be the smartest move, because this is

1466
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: a rivalry where the wins and losses don't really matter

1467
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: entering in, and this might be Connor's best chance, being

1468
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: that he's already proven he can beat Nate, to revive

1469
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: his brand in a way. Do you remember when Chuck

1470
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: Ladell's crazy losing streak at the end of his career

1471
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: had that one stop in between when he beat vonder

1472
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: Lay in an absolute war, and we're sort of like, oh,

1473
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 2: Chuck's not done. This could give Connor that opportunity Luke

1474
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: to buy another giant payday. But I'm losing confidence every

1475
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: day that Connor can come back and still be Connor.

1476
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: So maybe if you're a UFC, this is what we're

1477
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: doing when he gets back, when he's ready. I mean,

1478
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: is that. I know Nate just put out a video

1479
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: of Luk calling him out with like a fist emoji.

1480
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: What the hell do you gain if you're Nate Dz

1481
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: by fighting or beating Luk? I mean, unless they're saying

1482
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: if you beat him, you get done. Unless that's what

1483
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: they're saying, right, if you beat him, you get the

1484
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: title shot against the Dustin olivera winner. But I don't

1485
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: think they're doing that shit.

1486
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: Man, No, they don't want to give him a belt

1487
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: at all, you know. So yeah, this is to me,

1488
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: it's this fight makes a lot of sense right now

1489
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: for both guys, and the public wants it. I think

1490
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: it's a well matched fight. We know it's a well

1491
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: matched fight. They're good rivals for one another. It's it's

1492
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: a great fight to make, and I just don't want

1493
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: to see Connor come back. If Dusty, Dustin or Charles

1494
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: like It's not that those fights can't be good or

1495
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: exciting or worthwhile, but like, man, you just you should

1496
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: not be in the title fight Connor, regrecord, you just

1497
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: should not be. And maybe you listen, you get a

1498
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: win over somebody big, hey, totally different story, but like

1499
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: right away into a title fight, I'm just not okay

1500
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: with it. So and look at to me is much better.

1501
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: And if he beat him, Luke, that would given his

1502
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: celebrities test that would kind of justify him getting back

1503
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: into another title fight, right like it wouldn't work for everyone.

1504
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: Probably probably, All right, let's go through some of these other.

1505
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 2: Hitters here, hold down Luke because I'm not in a

1506
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: rush here, And I know you don't want to talk

1507
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: about this, but do you think who do you think

1508
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: has the advantage five years later entering into a third fight?

1509
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: Is it Nate? Is Nate the betting favorite here?

1510
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: I would say Connor. Actually I think Connor should be.

1511
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: I think Nate has declined as well. Like we put

1512
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: a huge magnifying glass up to Connor's mistakes and shortcomings,

1513
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: which we should like. I don't think there's anything wrong

1514
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: with that because listen, he is the biggest name and

1515
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the most amount of scrutiny as a consequence.

1516
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: Some of that unfair, but a lot of it not.

1517
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: Nate's a huge name, but I don't think you know,

1518
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: he's not had the same outside the cage troubles. And

1519
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: he's well liked and he's a bit of an iconoclast,

1520
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: but dude, Nate's long in the tooth and he's had

1521
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: a lot of damage and a lot of time off.

1522
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the same fighter he once was

1523
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: at his peak either, which just didn't to say that

1524
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: either is bad. Both are still great, but they're not

1525
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: what they once were. And I think Connor, to me,

1526
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: despite all his troubles, I still think that if he

1527
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: can just manage his cardio, that's a fight, and that's

1528
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: a big f But if he can do that, that's

1529
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: still a very winnable fight for.

1530
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: Him, and he's not getting taken down. There's no dusty

1531
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 2: bitches taking anyone down there, Luke And closing on this

1532
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: topic and this will really upset you, but Diego Sanchez

1533
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 2: had a run of tweets yesterday which said he was

1534
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: going to go to BKFC, said he wanted to challenge

1535
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: Bjpenn to a rematch at BKFC. I'm not gonna ask

1536
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: your take on that said he turned down and offer

1537
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: from the devil to sell his soul, and then insinuated

1538
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: that in two thousand and nine, Connor McGregor received that

1539
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 2: same offer, only to accept it. Luke, does that explain

1540
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: the whole mystic Mac run in twenty fifteen and sixteen,

1541
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: when he just defied believability and kept winning in such

1542
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: crazy and unthinkable ways.

1543
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: I am not gonna talk shit about Diego Sanchez. I

1544
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: wish him nothing but the best.

1545
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you're into like pseudo satanic rock, I mean,

1546
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: is there a connection there?

1547
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm not into satanic rock. None of the rock I'm

1548
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: into is in any way religious. Okay, Okay, I.

1549
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: Guess I guess we got to bring back the Wheel

1550
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: of Death to get you to really care about the

1551
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: important stuff out there. Okay, thank you?

1552
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Like like that all right, real quick? Nunez

1553
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: versus Pena rescheduled for UFC two sixty nine BC.

1554
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: In the reaction that'll be December eleventh, like that. Also

1555
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: on that card, we've got Cody Garbran against KAIKR France

1556
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: and Luke. Just today we are finding out that Montana

1557
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: Dala Rosa versus Macy Barber at Women's Flyway. Also on

1558
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: that December eleventh card, Give me some of that, bro,

1559
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: give me that shit.

1560
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Mike Perry tells Aril Hawane that after

1561
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: therapy and fatherhood, still has anger inside, but feels like

1562
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: a changed man. Is he a changed man? Not so

1563
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: much better for humanity, but better for cage fighting.

1564
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean, if he was a change man, if this

1565
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: is true, yeah, I think this could help him focus

1566
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: more and figure out what's left of him. I have

1567
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: huge concerns and fears Luke that he's he's headed to

1568
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: the full time BKFC route because I just haven't seen

1569
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: positives in his career. Did you see that video that

1570
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: they that the Perry family posted where coach Lttory was

1571
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: holding Ocean and then she tripped over something and she

1572
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: fell on her back. She took a hard back bump,

1573
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 2: but she kept she kept Ocean elevated so he didn't

1574
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: take any hit. That was, you know, well done there,

1575
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: Bye bye.

1576
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: I did that once. I was carrying my kid and

1577
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: the carrier, the child the car seat, but when I

1578
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: was taking her to the car and I slipped in

1579
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: mud and I landed and put the car seat right

1580
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: on top of my chest, like a fucking hero that

1581
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: I was.

1582
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: I slipped down the stairs with a baby with one

1583
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: of my sons once Luke and I my my back

1584
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 2: bounced off as I as I held little little Isaac,

1585
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: not ocean, but little Isaac up the whole way. Okay,

1586
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 2: it's still it's a it's a mythic feat that I

1587
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: that I did that day. I kept the baby alive,

1588
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: so that was great.

1589
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: JDS is looking for a boxing fight but says he

1590
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: has no takers because everyone is scared. BC is is

1591
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: that really the reason he doesn't have any takers?

1592
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, I mean nobody cared. I mean nobody

1593
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 2: wants this. JDS is is probably like a good candidate

1594
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: for a crossover boxing match, but like, who's gonna cash

1595
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: that in the heavyweight boxing this division itself is like hot.

1596
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: So unless Mike Tyson's looking to fight JDS, which he's

1597
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: not gonna be so, like, I don't know, Luke, I mean,

1598
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: who the hell is he gonna fight? Frank Meir, No

1599
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: one wants that shit.

1600
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip the b jpen one because it's dumb,

1601
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go to this last one BC.

1602
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: Did you see who? Triller announced up announce excuse me

1603
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: as the music lineup for the belfour de la Hoya fight. No.

1604
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: I was focused on Bjpenn being upset at Jake Paul

1605
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 2: for licking the blood off his gloves, which is, h

1606
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: that's rich, Yeah, that's rich.

1607
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: Okay. So here's who they have. They have the Snoop

1608
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: Dogg's gonna be on it, but of course he's the

1609
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: part owner.

1610
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: He's a duet with Marvin Gay, right even though he's dead.

1611
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: Well, Marvin Gay is dead, so they're gonna do it

1612
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: with they believe his son, and that'll be bad. And

1613
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: then on top of it, they've got Anita, who is

1614
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: apparently Brazil's most famous pop star. I guess like she's

1615
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: like Shusha. They have Lunai Puerto Rico's chart topping next

1616
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: generation regaton star. I mean, I guess that would be

1617
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: more like Bad Bunny. And then one of my favorites

1618
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: got a duo that gets a lot of rotations in

1619
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,440
Speaker 1: this household, Hena dei Zona. They have a song called Gozadera,

1620
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: which is you know, uh, it's a big one here.

1621
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: So they're up there Yeah, they do regaton. It's so

1622
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: they're cute.

1623
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like you're speaking another language to me.

1624
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: Luke, I have a song with Mark Anthony.

1625
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: Is it let the Rhythm take you over?

1626
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like Zada is the name of the video, which

1627
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: basically means like party. By the way, here's how you

1628
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: know that they're all better than us, like people from

1629
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: Latin America, better us than partying. They've got fifty different

1630
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: words for the word party. I don't know if you

1631
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: know that a gazillion different words for it. Goes Idea

1632
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: is one of them. So okay, there you go.

1633
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be talking to Oscar de la Hoya

1634
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: today for Morning Combat, So check that out. That should

1635
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: get sloppy and interesting, Luke.

1636
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh, that should be really interesting. Actually, I'm

1637
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. The BC is now the time

1638
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: I hand over the reins of the show to you

1639
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: because we have to do fan submissions.

1640
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 2: Wow, longtime coming for this. Morning Combat at gmail dot

1641
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: com is your depository for all of your fanshit. We

1642
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: got a lot of them today. Look, at some point

1643
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: it may have to be like that hook at the

1644
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: at the Apollo Theater where you're just like I've had

1645
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: enough submissions BC. That's it. But uh, for now we've

1646
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: got mail.

1647
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: Well there it is man subs.

1648
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Lucas is going to start off

1649
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: with pat Am, who has three photos. He says, Hey,

1650
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: Luke in BC, my brother and I went out west

1651
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: to RV around Colorado and Utah for two weeks. But

1652
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: more importantly, we went out there to spread the MK gospel.

1653
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: Even my two hundred and seventy five pound brother hike

1654
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: ten miles and climb through a waterfall to take this

1655
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: second picture at sky Pond at Rocky Mountain National Park,

1656
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: just to spread the bde from two Philly hooligans. We

1657
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 2: have appreciate what you do to get us through the pandemic.

1658
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work. Blah blah blah. Also we

1659
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 2: have to get some resume review curse merch around Halloween

1660
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: this year. It's a great idea. I'm going to reach

1661
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: out to krupp our merch Maatster Luke and see if

1662
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: pat EM's ideas can come forward. But hey, shout out

1663
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 2: to these grown men for going out to the desert, Luke,

1664
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: going out to the national parks and repping what we do.

1665
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: I hope they run into Bill and Genlem when they're

1666
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: out there.

1667
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a weird duo because the guy on

1668
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: the left is definitely posing in a way where he

1669
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: wants you to know he works out. Yeah, and the

1670
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: guy on the right is probably under federal indictment for

1671
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 1: January sixth activities. Amazing.

1672
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: He put his feet up on Pelosi's desk and now

1673
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: he's holding our merch out at Zion National Park. All right,

1674
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: Julio R Is here, he says, Hey, Luke in BC,

1675
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: this is Julio from Moreno Valley, Cali. Wanted to show

1676
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: off my garage, Jim, and see what you think. I've

1677
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: got a treadmill, a cycling bike, and elliptical cast iron

1678
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: weight and also a power rack. Luke, does this man

1679
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: have a nice rack?

1680
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't. Oh the rack is okay. But BC,

1681
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 1: what is messier this room or my hotel room from Cleveland.

1682
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: The one that you solicited me in to do room

1683
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:15,919
Speaker 2: service diaries.

1684
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: I'll never forget BC walked in, and it was I

1685
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: mean it was. It was a disaster of epic proportions.

1686
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: But BC walked in. I'll never forget what you said.

1687
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first words that you said to

1688
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: me when I opened the door. No, you go, I

1689
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: can't work in these conditions.

1690
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 2: Everything you owned was on the floor in some form. Look,

1691
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: it was just as if you walked in and just

1692
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 2: threw it all out there.

1693
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: It was great, basically basically you know what, the rack

1694
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: itself bought by the water heater. I mean, this man

1695
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: is getting it. He's thugging it out hardcore. Yeah, it

1696
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: is actually pretty good. You can do a lot with

1697
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: a basic rack like that, and it's and it looks

1698
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: like it's bolted to either the wall or the ground,

1699
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: which is perfect because you can do heavier loads. The

1700
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: rest of this. You know, you can just set fire

1701
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: to it and collect the insurance money.

1702
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: Well, don't set fire to that, MK merch one point

1703
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: zero sweatshirt. There looking good right there? All right? Tim

1704
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: Be slides in says, Hey, guys, I just want to

1705
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 2: say I took this photo a couple of weeks ago

1706
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: during the fourth of July Mailbag episode. I got Luke's

1707
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: live chat today and his opening truly inspired me to

1708
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: finally submit this. That's my daughter named Marlowe, and that's

1709
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: Luke trying to teach her how to count she's a

1710
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: bit confused, but I really appreciate the help. You. Voicing

1711
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: your gratitude and speaking about your daughter in the opening

1712
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 2: of your live chat on August fifth inspired me to share.

1713
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 2: This big fan of you guys. Your humor and chemistry

1714
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: are top notch. He's gonna vote for us. And also

1715
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: he watches the show when at work so that his

1716
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: daughter doesn't hear you guys talking about porn. Like I said,

1717
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 2: this was the holiday mail bag Jack B from La.

1718
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: Looks good and I gotta say, well, this is a

1719
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: tim O on the photo, Tim B.

1720
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: Tim B, Yeah, I said, Jack B. Well, he know

1721
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: he's he sent it, he signed it, Jack B. I

1722
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe this guy's got two alien two personalities, Luke.

1723
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: Okay, either way, cute kid, and I used to have

1724
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: that thing. My daughter used to sit in that the

1725
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,879
Speaker 1: exact same thing when she was younger. So brings back memories.

1726
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 2: Man, wouldn't it be ironic, Luke? If you sold the

1727
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: one you had at like a tag sale and it

1728
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: made it all the way to Cali to this guy,

1729
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: Tim and he was using the same one that your

1730
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: daughter was in and he had no idea. Yes, I

1731
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: mean that's a little too ironic.

1732
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: Right, Nah?

1733
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: Really, okay, okay, sorry, Jason W. Says to Luke in BC,

1734
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 2: thanks for keeping me enjoyed through my boring ass day.

1735
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: Been watching you, Luke for a long time. Hey, BC,

1736
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: you're also the shit. Hey thanks Jason looking good in

1737
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: that hoodie and hat from the MK folks.

1738
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: This dude probably goes like the Sonic drive through with

1739
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: this fucking thing on. It's like, bro, take it easy,

1740
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: we're just ordering, you know, oreo shakes. You don't have

1741
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: to have to punish your logo everywhere you go.

1742
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: Look, do you think he wore that in this photo?

1743
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: Just to solicit a capital step storming reference for me

1744
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: is possible, but I can't.

1745
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: I can't go back to that well on every photo.

1746
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: But you know, he definitely is a good candidate for it.

1747
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 2: All right. Max B says MK all day every day,

1748
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 2: even in Alaska while out photographing beers. Luke, are they

1749
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: are they ef?

1750
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: They're fucking or fighting? Either way?

1751
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all the same. Shout out to this guy,

1752
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: Max nice with the MK beanie. I wonder if he

1753
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 2: knows Antoine Luke. You know that six foot eight fellow

1754
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 2: who lives out there that's tall drink of water. Yeah,

1755
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: no you don't.

1756
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I gotta say. Do

1757
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: we have a disproportionate amount of listeners who are either

1758
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: in or go to Alaska? Have you noticed that?

1759
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: Yes? We are last Frontierman, just like them, Luke. We

1760
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: are doing something with this show that you know. It's

1761
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 2: not easy, it's not recommended, right, the same thing Alaska

1762
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 2: people go out there to hide Luke. All right, they

1763
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: got warrants against them, they got you know, they got

1764
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: they got caught drinking off in a car in their hometown.

1765
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: They're like, I gotta go somewhere where nobody knows my name.

1766
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm someplace where they can't find me for masturbating

1767
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: out of Wendy's.

1768
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: Probably what happened to Antwin, although we're a big fan

1769
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: of him. All right, Bruce b slides and says, good morning,

1770
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: Luke and BC. Just a couple of short weeks since

1771
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: they were last in town. My brother, my brother who's

1772
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: pictured without sleeves, and my dad came back to Houston

1773
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 2: for two sixty five. We made a whole weekend out

1774
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: of it, went to the weigh INDs. We stopped at

1775
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: the Black beast Mural caught up with the Sugar show,

1776
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: had front row seats in the balcony. No time for NASA. Naturally,

1777
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: we watched Friday's MK episode just in case any donks

1778
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 2: we crossed paths with needed the facts. I heard how

1779
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 2: much you love Houston, Luke, So I'm looking forward to

1780
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 2: one of those road shows when the opportunity arrives. I

1781
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 2: have zero Houston connections, but I'd put my barbecue sides

1782
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: and accoutre monts up against anyone's keeping a frosty. It's Bruce,

1783
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: Steve and Steve Senior. It's a nice American family right there, Luke.

1784
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: It is. And by the way, so when I when

1785
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: I went back to the Cleveland Airport on Monday to leave,

1786
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley was in my same concourse, but a little

1787
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: bit a little bit of a different gate. And this

1788
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: was you know, it wasn't early in the morning. This

1789
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: was like ten am or something. But he looked to

1790
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: have be like majorly hungover and had a line of

1791
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: people at the gate trying to take pictures with him.

1792
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: So he is very popular.

1793
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: It's hard for him to hide when he's dressed like that.

1794
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: Luke, it is is he had a hoodie on. He

1795
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: had a hoodie on and his afro was kind of

1796
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: tucked into it. But yeah, they still spotted him a

1797
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: million miles away.

1798
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: All right. We got a fellow named Gusto f He's

1799
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 2: got two pictures. He moved to North Carolina in twenty

1800
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: seventeen and because of the pandemic, he wasn't able to

1801
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: go back and visit for nineteen months. Last week he

1802
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 2: was finally able to head back. In the first picture,

1803
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: he's repping MK while a digger Land with his friend

1804
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: Dan digger Land. And in the second picture he met

1805
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: up with a couple of marines, Luke that he served

1806
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: almost twenty years with, So for five never die, motherfucker.

1807
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: We are now. We were now in the defunct first

1808
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 2: Tank Battalion when we were part of the invasion of

1809
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: Iraq in two thousand and three. I love the show.

1810
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: I had to upgrade to unlimited data because I was

1811
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: using up all my data streaming on your show. Thanks

1812
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 2: for everything, Simperfi, Luke.

1813
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: It's JUICEO there Marines, Yeah.

1814
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about those fine gentlemen, Luke.

1815
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: Well, the shipbird on the left is a Giants fan.

1816
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: I think he doesn't. He keeps it very subtle. You

1817
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: can't quite tell, but uh, I'm teasing. But they all

1818
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: seem like great guys and we appreciate their patronage and

1819
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate, of course their service. So perfide elise to

1820
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: all the Marines out there.

1821
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, no jokes, no jokes, Okay. Aurelius B says, Hey, guys,

1822
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: As you can see, I was not at the Capitol Riot,

1823
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: but I'm glad to add some mulatto melanin to your show.

1824
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: The shirt feels softer than expected and it's good quality. Also,

1825
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm a p one fan from back when Doctor Salt

1826
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: and Pepper was just Pepper making guest appearances with Dana's

1827
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: favorite Canadian on the MMA be And I even remember

1828
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: when Luke Fest on his live chat that he was

1829
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: so stressed that he was grinding his teeth in his sleep,

1830
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: Which is why I'm glad to see you and BC

1831
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: doing great things with the recognition. You deserve much love.

1832
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: But I've got a ps for you, Luke. I never

1833
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: spoke ill of you on your show yet I've been

1834
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: blocked on Instagram for the past three years. This is

1835
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: my last appeal. I feel like I've served my time.

1836
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 2: Please unblock me on Instagram. My handle is Aurelius ninety two, Luke.

1837
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Does he deserve how I'm gonna spell that? Au r

1838
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: E s can Can you send it to me? Just

1839
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: send it to me.

1840
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll send that to you, or maybe Mikey can

1841
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 2: shoot it out to you.

1842
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: Mike, you the producer, send it to me. Please.

1843
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: Aurelius is looking fit in that MKT shirt, Luke, and

1844
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: I think he presented himself well, okay.

1845
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: It's a heartfelt message and he probably got listen to

1846
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: all these guys like, how did I get blocked for

1847
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 1: a good reason? You said something fucking stupid? But yeah,

1848
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: I'll unblock him. It's fine, Luke.

1849
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 2: A lot of people wondering now that you're on good

1850
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: terms with one Ariel Hawani, will there be an em

1851
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: I may beat Reunion.

1852
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: I would meet up with the guys if they wanted to,

1853
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: but I would never I'm I'm not interested in doing

1854
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: any favors for my old company, so okay sort of

1855
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: but not really.

1856
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: I'm also an alumnus of that show.

1857
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Luke, you are, we are both alumni.

1858
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: You know. Some would say the best run ever of

1859
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: that show saw meley. Some would probably say that.

1860
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Some but some would say the exact opposite and say

1861
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: it was kind of dying at the end there, but

1862
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: you know.

1863
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: It was a dying fetus. But BC was there.

1864
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: It was a dying fetus, But it wasn't it not

1865
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: because of us, but because of you know, all.

1866
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: Right, it did birth MK though, So shout out to

1867
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: the MMA B. It was a good run, Ronald says, Hey,

1868
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: Luke in BC, I'm a fifty something washed after many

1869
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: years of combat and collision sports, and I'm finally broken down.

1870
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 2: I recently had lumbar fusion spinal decompression surgery to correct

1871
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: the wreckage that was my spine. As you can see,

1872
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: I'm three weeks out of the hospital ready to begin

1873
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: the long and successful rehab. What got me through the

1874
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: initial post surgery was my constant streaming of MK all day,

1875
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: every day, even during my hospital stay. You guys are

1876
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: the best in the business. Keep crushing it, the fabulous one.

1877
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 2: Ronald f Luke is he is he in the in

1878
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: the water here?

1879
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, BC? Is this Ronald f or is

1880
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: this you doing rise in analysis?

1881
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: Wow?

1882
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow?

1883
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a tribute to the to all things.

1884
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm just teasing.

1885
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to Ronald's back, Luke.

1886
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, get well, he looks like he's okay actually,

1887
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: but get well, take it day by day, get better

1888
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: and get out there and live your life.

1889
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks great in that hat for fifty something.

1890
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: This guy, I mean, he should be swiping right now, Luke,

1891
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: right grinder.

1892
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: I never got on the dating apps, but yes.

1893
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Tom P says from our divorce Trip

1894
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: into Loom, shout out to April, my best friend and

1895
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: more love the show guys from day one. Hope your

1896
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: vacations were fun.

1897
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: BC.

1898
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: You're hilarious, my friend. I truly respect you as an artist.

1899
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: Fuck the critics, wow, Luke, do you know about the sonotes?

1900
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: They are cool as fuck? Luke. Why would Tom P

1901
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: say this was our divorce trip?

1902
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. The gentleman on the

1903
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: right of the screen is well muscled. Maybe he took

1904
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: all the girls. I don't know.

1905
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a thing? Do people get divorced and

1906
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: then go on vacation or is this his way of saying,

1907
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: like I can tell you, I.

1908
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Could tell you my parents got divorced and there was

1909
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: no vacation afterwards, so I don't think so.

1910
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Adam ah slides in with four photos.

1911
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: My wife and I went to Puerto Rico for our

1912
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: ten year anniversary in July. Nice and I had to

1913
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: wrap the one point old merch while climbing El Moro

1914
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: food baby pick in ode to BC and the gas

1915
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: station food. Keep it up, gents, This is Adam Luke

1916
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 2: in the uh all right, all right, nice camo shorts.

1917
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 2: Oh there's the food, baby Luke.

1918
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: You know what God blessed this man.

1919
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are fine Americans that.

1920
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: We have here. Yeah. He's just living your life out

1921
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: there in Puerto Rico, eating that, eating that m fongo,

1922
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: having a good ass time.

1923
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: Congratulations on ten years of marriage, Sir Adam, Thank you,

1924
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: all right, saul A says out here spreading the gospel

1925
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: of MK and COVID at the Kentucky State Fair. Sure

1926
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 2: hope the vaccine works for me, Brian. These sloppy fair

1927
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: foods go out to your liver, damn right they do.

1928
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 2: These bourbon slushies were great, got the classic turkey leg

1929
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: cotton candy, and I never turned down a giro Luke

1930
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: a gyro. Yeah, Luke saw a. Is that is he

1931
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: rocking a mullet?

1932
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: Oh? Is he? Ever? He's got a bag of cotton

1933
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: candy the size of a volkswagon too. I mean, look

1934
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: at that shit. I support.

1935
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: I mean he'll have to answer to the UH, to

1936
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: the liver ferry at the end of the day, Luke,

1937
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: But I support this man looking good. Oh he's got

1938
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: a little side piece there too. Look you done with that?

1939
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean she might be more than that. It's a

1940
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: little disrespectful, but of course, you know.

1941
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 2: She may be the main course. Yeah, yeah, I didn't

1942
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: mean to disrespect her title. But yeah, well done there,

1943
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: Sir sou saoul Canelo. I like that, all right, Matt says,

1944
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: all those years of pickup hoops in the ash crack

1945
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: of Connecticut finally paid off. Not many coachs could keep

1946
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: their can.

1947
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Look at this picture.

1948
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: That is amazing while sweating. Wow, this is a time

1949
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: lapse photography here, Luke, can we zoom in on this?

1950
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: Please, dude? Look at dude. That is amazing work. And

1951
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: I like how your face just gets worse and worse

1952
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: over here.

1953
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in hell by the fourth one. Look at

1954
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 2: the fire there. That's great.

1955
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: Wow. Hey, I was looking kind of You know, what

1956
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: sets it off is that your collar never gets wet,

1957
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 1: so it just stands in deep contrast to your filthy,

1958
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: filthy chest.

1959
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: Look, there was some speculation that I had drugs in

1960
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: my system, and that's why I know. We were in

1961
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 2: a tent. Okay, we've already explained this on room service diaries,

1962
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: all right.

1963
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: And she didn't look like it, but yeah, and also

1964
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: because we were in the tent, we also had lights

1965
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: on us inside the tent, so it sucked. Yes, all right,

1966
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: there you go.

1967
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: Well, good fun and games. Dim from Bulgaria says, you

1968
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: guys are great. I appreciate the effort you're putting into

1969
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 2: m K would love to try to be helpful to

1970
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: you and show you submission featuring a very special UFC

1971
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: five hundred card.

1972
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I've never looked this good. I'm never gonna look this good.

1973
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: So I'll just say thanks to Dim from Bulgaria for

1974
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: the complete lie that I could ever look this amazing.

1975
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 2: He put all of his ideas together, Luke, and this

1976
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:26,440
Speaker 2: was the dim sum of them.

1977
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Want you to do more rise in analysis?

1978
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 2: All right? All right, Hickson is here. That's Hickson with

1979
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 2: an h Luke not the Brazilian version. Good day guys,

1980
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 2: it's your boy Hickson from the Woodlands, Texas. Keep up

1981
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 2: the good work, BC. Yes, those dick riding donks at

1982
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: the UFC stole your wheel of Death game. May they

1983
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: choke on a gas station hot Dog. The first sub

1984
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: is a tribute to LT's days of being pissed and

1985
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 2: his love for gym clubs. Let's zoom in.

1986
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: What does SMSHG stand for?

1987
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, BC.

1988
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Luke Thomas's Pissed.

1989
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I used to love that show. I used to tell

1990
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 2: you about that back when we were just mere acquaintances, Luke,

1991
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: and you'd always say, yeah, I wish, I wish. Thousands

1992
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: of others all liked it too, Luke.

1993
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just so weird when we put it out.

1994
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: It didn't do great numbers and it was actually kind

1995
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: of hard for me to do, so I had to stop.

1996
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: And then after I stopped, I got I never it

1997
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: was crazy. I got like a dozen, no more than that.

1998
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: Everywhere I went people were like, dude, I used to

1999
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: love that. I'm like, why in the fuck didn't you

2000
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: watch it? Yeah?

2001
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, you know, could we recreate that here, Luke,

2002
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: now that rosected is dead and buried, can we recreate

2003
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 2: you know, Luke Thomas is really mad.

2004
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: You could do a you could do a spin off

2005
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: of it.

2006
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could, or you could.

2007
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Both of us could. I don't know if you could

2008
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: pull off you know, seething anger and resentment quite as

2009
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: well as I could, because it comes a little more

2010
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 1: natural to me. But you know it's possible.

2011
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Okay. The second submission is lt flexing about his high

2012
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: alcohol liquor tolerance.

2013
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: The last mosquito that had to check into the Betty Ford.

2014
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 2: For all your talk that forty six beers would it

2015
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: would take to get you buzzed, you were pretty buzzed

2016
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: in the frat house slash Cleveland Indians box that we

2017
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: had the other night.

2018
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't I don't understand. I don't understand why

2019
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: you think I didn't have a lot to drink that night, Dude.

2020
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: I had like four or five Monster doubles or triples

2021
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: before I even touched the beer, and then I had

2022
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: beer on top of.

2023
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 2: It, like Luke the whole night. Yoh BC, yo ho,

2024
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 2: yoh BC.

2025
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: You actually no, I think what I said was you're

2026
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: a bitch constantly.

2027
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: I'd like to start a conversation with somebody about their

2028
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 2: life and stuff.

2029
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: You come in PC.

2030
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 2: Yoh that was great.

2031
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: That was great.

2032
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.

2033
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: All right. You know what when people imitate you and

2034
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: they sound like a stupider, Kenny Powers, you know you've

2035
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: got some questions to ask yourself.

2036
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do, all right. A man named Ali said, hey,

2037
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 2: mk uh, wanted Luke to rate my lift. This came

2038
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: only three months into joining the gym. Five plates, four

2039
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five pounds. I failed the first attempt,

2040
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 2: but the second, but I got the second, and I

2041
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 2: think I had the third one in the tank. I've

2042
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: been told that's good for a new lifter. Blah blah blah.

2043
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: He grew up playing football and judo and snowboarding, Luke,

2044
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 2: and it's given him strong legs in a lower back

2045
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 2: that's strong as well.

2046
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: No, he is fucking this all up. Now.

2047
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 2: You can barely do any pull ups. But this was

2048
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: pre pandemic.

2049
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: It's terrible. This is terrible. No, he is obviously quite strong,

2050
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 1: so this is not a This is not a comment.

2051
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: This is not a comment about his strength. Rolled the

2052
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: video one more time. First mistake he's making, and it's

2053
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: the bistically everyone makes. I made it for years too.

2054
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: Whenever you use the straps, you don't need to roll

2055
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: it multiple times over the bar. One rap over the

2056
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: bar is all you need. Number one and number two.

2057
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: It looks like he's got his bar place. See how

2058
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,600
Speaker 1: the bar placement comes right up against the shins. It

2059
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: should not do that. This is not the snatch. The

2060
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: bar path is crooked and he The most important part

2061
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 1: is watch how he lifts with the back of the

2062
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 1: top of his lower part of his back. Whenever you're

2063
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 1: doing this, the number one thing in deadlifting is there

2064
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: will be some rounding, especially if it's a max load,

2065
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: but you need to drop your shoulder all the way

2066
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: down and lock your lats into place so your back

2067
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: stays tight and wound the whole time. All these major lifts,

2068
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: like a deadlift, overhead press, bench press, you have to

2069
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 1: wind your body super super super super tight and then

2070
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 1: execute the lift. He's loose all the way through. This

2071
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: is just leg drive and lower back drive. He's gonna

2072
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: fuck himself up if he keeps doing this. I'm not

2073
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: here to be like a dick at all. He's obviously strong.

2074
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: If you can lift that weight off the ground the

2075
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: way he's doing it with basically like his spinal erectors,

2076
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: you're obviously quite strong. In fact, if he cleans up

2077
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: his technique, he can do good things. But you do

2078
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: for your own sake, you need to clean that up.

2079
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna get injured lifting like that.

2080
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 2: Remember in Doc four when Chobb was like, what you

2081
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 2: had a problem with the four hundred pounds and then

2082
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: lookes like so.

2083
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: He lifted he lifted six And I told this to

2084
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: his face. I called him on the phone. I'm like, bro,

2085
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 1: you're strongest. And he cleaned it up a little bit,

2086
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,560
Speaker 1: but he was jerking into the bar. And what I

2087
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: was trying to explain to him was if you ever

2088
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: lift a dead lift and you can hear the bar

2089
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: clank into the weights, it means you didn't provide that

2090
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: proper tension I'm talking about prior to executing the lift.

2091
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: He was just yanking it off the ground without getting

2092
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: tight first. Again, you can do that for a while,

2093
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: but you're gonna fuck your ship up doing that.

2094
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Ye Like, it's not Sakawa already, all right? John g

2095
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 2: has An MK meme. Let's run, Let's run, through these

2096
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: quick and get out of here. Uh yeah, yeah, I

2097
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: think you got it. I think you got it.

2098
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean, is it wrong? Is it wrong? It's not wrong,

2099
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: it's not wrong.

2100
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 2: Hey, you keep going away for two weeks. It's gonna

2101
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: be a lot of weird shit on this show, all right.

2102
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 2: MHD says, Hey, Luke and BC, this is my artwork.

2103
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: Asked BC about OnlyFans before. I hope you're well. This

2104
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 2: is my first submission. Uh, it's a new comic called

2105
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: The Wheel of Death. So let's see what it is,

2106
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Luke MK headquarter.

2107
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 1: Ring ring looks pretty cool, looks pretty cool, Luke Thomas

2108
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: new made me much less gray than I actually am.

2109
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: How can I help you? Yep? Does it advance? Is

2110
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 2: there another sled?

2111
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: Hey?

2112
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Luke, did you get the request I sent for our

2113
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: new segment? Yeah?

2114
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Speaker 1: Decided let me let me read the Luke part. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I decided not to accept it since I have producer credit.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, Luke, we'll see. All right, what do we get?

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Speaker 2: Is there a punchline here? No, that's the next one.

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Speaker 2: Let's back that shit up. Okay, So MHD says, I

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Speaker 2: know Luke is gonna shit all over this, but I'm

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Speaker 2: sure BC is going to love it, since artists recognize artists.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Emma.

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Speaker 1: I actually, I mean there's no punchline. You're right, but

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Speaker 1: I actually do love the artwork. I think it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: He says. Ps. I'm fully vaccinated now, Luke and waiting

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Speaker 2: on my merch. Much love from both Syria and Portugal.

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Speaker 2: He's a man of the world like you, Luke.

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Speaker 1: There you go, dude, Appreciate you getting that VACXS, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you getting that merch. God bless you.

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Speaker 2: Unlike you, he would never turn his back on his

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Speaker 2: Indian faith though. All right, John G says, Luke and

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Speaker 2: BC have hit Cleveland. Let's see this thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, could we look more stupid and pretentious at

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Speaker 1: the same time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's well done. All right, Tony Tony Z says,

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Speaker 2: Hey fellows, I'm no photo grisser, but here's a post

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Speaker 2: workout pick of Luke wearing the Pride gloves from Merch

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Speaker 2: three point zero. Keep up the good work. You're truly

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Speaker 2: best brains for the art, Tony Z. Luke, that's an

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01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 2: incredible photo of mister T and Hulk Cogan with our

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Speaker 2: heads on it. That is great.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say that they are bringing it this

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Speaker 1: week with the fans hubs. They are killing it this week.

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Speaker 2: Wait, Luke, you hate gloves, but what about belts? Are

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Speaker 2: you okay on workout belts? No?

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01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: Belts are pretty critical. They can be overused like anything else.

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Speaker 1: But people don't understand people. Oh he lifted it with

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01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: a belt like it's cheating. No, it's not belt belting.

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Speaker 1: Your the core of your body is I would argue

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Speaker 1: for maximum lifting almost essential, almost essential.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll keep that in mind. Fan sub last

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Speaker 2: one it's from ben Jay. Hey, guys, check out the

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Speaker 2: Alternate universe where Luke guns down the gen Z Aliens

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01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,839
Speaker 2: and b She shows how his painting skills have come along.

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01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 2: Possibly a couple of T shirt designs here from Merch

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Speaker 2: three point zero love the show.

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Speaker 1: I like how you're painting urban blight.

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Speaker 2: Love from Wales. It's ben Z and there you have it,

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Speaker 2: a little happy little abandoned factory in Bridgeport, Connecticut. There's

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Speaker 2: many of those down there in father panic village down

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Speaker 2: there in Bridgeport. I look fantastic with the with the

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Speaker 2: Bob Ross frow and can we go back to that

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01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 2: first one here? Yeah, Luke nukeomb three D. That is great, dude.

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Speaker 1: These guys make me look cooler than I'll ever be.

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Speaker 1: But I am grateful for this. That is fucking awesome.

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Speaker 2: We close with two birthday shout outs. By the way,

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Speaker 2: We'll never do fan subs this long again. It's just

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Speaker 2: that we've been so long in doing them. This is

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Speaker 2: from Kristin d. She says, Dear Luke and Bran. First off,

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Speaker 2: great work with the show. My boyfriend Christopher, a DC native,

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Speaker 2: is a huge MK fan, never misses an episode, so

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Speaker 2: I've become a fan too. As a matter of fact,

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01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 2: We've been traveling abroad since January and I've taken you

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Speaker 2: guys with us everywhere we go, So thank you for

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Speaker 2: the endless banner and entertainment. It's Chris's birthday on Monday,

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Speaker 2: August twenty third. That was last week. He doesn't know

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01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 2: it yet, but you're about to tell him. He has

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Speaker 2: some morning combat gear waiting for him when we arrived

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Speaker 2: back in the States. I promise to send fan photos.

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Speaker 2: It'd be awesome if you can give him a birthday

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Speaker 2: shout out. Stay Frosty. Thanks for all the laughs, Luke.

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01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 2: This was supposed to go last week. But there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of issues with your travel and me, you know,

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01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: doing great solo shit without you. So do you want

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Speaker 2: to wish Christopher, a DC native who's indoctrinated his wife

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Speaker 2: into all things MK, a very happy birthday?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shouts to the DC fellas, appreciate you. Happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: I don't like doing these shoutouts because we're not a

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Speaker 1: hip hop radio station, but at the same time I

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Speaker 1: will because they found a way to sneak it in.

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Speaker 1: So you know, sweet.

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Speaker 2: How about this guy studying abroad with his wife? Hope

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Speaker 2: it becomes a three way luke? Right? All right? This

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Speaker 2: last one is from Scott m Rizzo's wife, Amy Luke.

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Speaker 2: You know Scott m Rizzo, Right, Amy says, hoping you

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Speaker 2: could do me a solid for my husband's birthday. It's

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Speaker 2: August twenty fourth. He's a huge fan, has sent you

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Speaker 2: several things that you've shared on the show. I heard

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01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 2: you say that you would answer a question if we

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Speaker 2: flood Apple with reviews, so I wrote one. Plus I

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01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 2: bought some MK swag, so I'm hoping you'll help me out.

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Speaker 2: Would love for you to give him a shout thanks

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Speaker 2: and keep on trucking. Scott m Rizzo. You've been one

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01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: of our ogs. Maybe you've flooded us with too many

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01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: at times, maybe we question if there's human heads floating

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01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: in your freezer. But you're an artiste and art does

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Speaker 2: recognize art. Happy birthday, buddy, and shout out to your

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Speaker 2: lovely wife. I'm sure for reaching out to us. Luke.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't like this, but this stuff goes

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Speaker 2: a long way.

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Speaker 1: These are people, it does, it does. I just don't

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Speaker 1: want to be their places. Here's the thing. You love,

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01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: giving milk to stray cats. You know, that's your favorite

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01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: thing to do, and you know you're because you're a humanitarian,

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Speaker 1: which I understand. But if you do it, it's not

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Speaker 1: that I don't want to wish these people happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: The problem is if you do it, you get flooded

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Speaker 1: with requests from people that you don't care about, and

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to I'm not This isn't cameo.

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01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: So for the hard course, I'm cool with it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're just a donk on the fringe

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Speaker 1: and you want to happy birthday, go fuck yourself. How

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Speaker 1: about that?

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Speaker 2: Go go pound sand after thirty days of showtime. Yeah

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01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 2: all right, there, you go. Look, that's the friggin show

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Speaker 2: for today. I don't know. I hope it was good.

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Speaker 2: You know I didn't sell I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday show, kind of in between big events.

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Speaker 1: I thought we did great on this, so I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to be back in the seat and everything else. Let's

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Speaker 1: remind folks tomorrow Live chat is back three pm Friday.

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Speaker 1: The show is back eleven am. We're gonna get you

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Speaker 1: ready for the weekends. Fights they're actually are some And

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Speaker 1: of course, if you want to follow everything we're doing

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01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: from now until then, BC and I on Twitter and Instagram,

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Speaker 1: you can see more in Combat Twitter and Instagram, and

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Speaker 1: of course of course right here YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat with a K. If you want to try showtime,

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Speaker 1: you can thirty days free. If you like it, you

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Speaker 1: can keep it. If not, you can go to something

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Speaker 1: else with your life. We will do dead wrong, not

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Speaker 1: tomorrow but on Friday's show, So get those dead wrongs

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Speaker 1: in email. The show Morningcombat at gmail dot com is

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01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: gonna be the place to do that. We are still

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Speaker 1: up for an MMA Award, World MMA Award, I should

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Speaker 1: say so. Once't you vote for us, you can go

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Speaker 1: to World MMA Awards dot Com slash nominees you can

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Speaker 1: give us We're Best MMA Programming nominee and Morningcombat dot

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Speaker 1: Store for merch. All the merch you guys have out

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01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: there is pretty amazing. We appreciate it. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: taken the plunge yet, now you can worldwide shipping for

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Speaker 1: folks who are in the far stretches and corners of

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Speaker 1: the Earth. See final thoughts to impose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully by Friday this mole will have completely fallen

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Speaker 2: off after being frozen.

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Speaker 1: Luke. So, yeah, I got a couple here, I had three.

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Speaker 1: I had two taken off, but I kind of got

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01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: one back here I gotta get taken off.

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01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a few on my eyelid. The lady

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01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 2: was just yanking them off. No needles for those, Luke,

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01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't want a needle on them. I did tell

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01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 2: you that she didn't burn them. Oh some, she froze some.

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01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 2: She injected a needle and then picked and then sliced off.

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Speaker 2: It led to me telling her my harrowing yeah three

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01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 2: needles story, which you know, maybe regrettable to tell female

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01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 2: doctor that story, but I think she got the point that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we just met. Let me talk about my chopped

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01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: up balls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, that's it. I'm not here to

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01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: do anything else but tell you that I'm gonna be

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01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: back Friday with a bang, a great show come your way.

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01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready to take this ship to the

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Speaker 2: next level.

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01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 1: And the Dale Hoya interview, when does that go up?

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01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 2: That's that's probably gonna go up tomorrow. So get ready

2275
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 2: for that talking all Things V tour. Uh you know,

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01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 2: we'll get you ready, We'll get you ready.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Right, So there you have it. That's all for

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01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: us today. We appreciate you watching live chat tomorrow show

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01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 1: on Friday. So for everyone else on the show, Malka

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01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 1: CBS Showtime, we appreciate you. We're glad to be back

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01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 1: in the saddle for Brian Campbell to King of Connecticut,

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01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, may all of your

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Speaker 1: gains be loyal.