1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Look, Bumble knows you're exhausted by dating alda must not 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: take yourself too seriously and six one since stuff matters 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: and what do I even say other than hey? Well, 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: that's why they're introducing an all new Bumble with exciting 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: features to make compatibility easier, starting the chat better, and 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: dating's safer. They've changed so you don't have to download 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: the new Bumble now. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: I listen to the Black Guy who Tips podcast because 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Rod and Karen are hot. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: She said to him, I want you to be a father. 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: He's a little boy and you don't even bother like 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: brother without the R. He's starting to harbor cooling food 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: for thought before you. He's a starver, starting to use 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: red markers on his work because he just says. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: You know, he's much smarter, but he's hurt. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Used to hand his homework in first, like he was 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: a classroom starter. First of tis let him know she's serious. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: I know he's fighting the class. Got a note last 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: week saying he might not pass ask me if his 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: daddy was sick of us, because you ain't never pick 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: him up. 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: You see what his problem is. He'll know where's popper? 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: Is no positive male role model to play footballer Bill 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: Railroad Models is making the hole. You've been digging it 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: because you ain't been kicking it since he was old 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: enough to hold bottles. Hey, Welcome to the Blackout Tips podcast, 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Rod and Karen. 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 4: We're in a house on a Wednesday. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: We didn't have no power for a couple of hours, 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: so I was going to watch Walking Dead and recap 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: it today, but that ain't what God wanted y'all have okay, 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: and blame this on all the Christians because this is what 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: they believe in, Okay. I as an atheist, I just 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: thought it was science. But parently Jesus didn't want you 35 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: all to have Walking Dad recap. 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 5: So maybe this time we had planned on it. 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: M h. 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 5: I tried and it was pitch black. Dude. I walked 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: up to the doll, was like, it's dog out here. 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: Mm hmm uh. 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: The official weapon of the show is the Unofficial Sport 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: Bulletballer stream. You know to find us the Blackout Tips everywhere, 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: the Blackout Tips dot com, iTunes, stitch you all that stuff, 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: responsor about Shadow Doll productions. They're gonna be uploading new 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: videos to YouTube. Make sure you check it out. Go 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: to their YouTube channel. It's very simple. YouTube dot com, 47 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: slash user, slash shadow Doll Production or just put in 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: shadow Doll Productions in the search for a YouTube and. 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: Their channel will come up. 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: Like it, Join it, favorite it, you know, get updated 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: when new videos come out. 52 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: They always got stuff and the work's over. 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: There, and we had just recorded with them, as you 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: guys probably heard earlier this week. I also would like 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: to send out a reminder to everybody. Okay, I ask 56 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: people during the feedback show last Saturday, and we haven't 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: got any responses yet. 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 4: It's been it's almost been a week. 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 5: Okay. Somebody said they send a response. I know it 60 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: might have got lost in. 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: Your I haven't seen an email or anything with a response. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: For all the good hotels. 63 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 5: Okay, you must have seen it. I didn't see. I 64 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 5: didn't click on it. 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 4: Seen what. 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 6: Oh, somebody has said something about they sent us a link. 67 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 6: Let me see if I can find it. For the 68 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 6: good hoteps, I'm assuming that's what it was. Okay, I 69 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: need to see a link to their work. I need 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: to see what you know they got, like email me. 71 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 6: It's probably easier to email me, but I won't links 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 6: to people's work. 73 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: Okay, like, what is their work where they go. I'm 74 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: a HOTEP and I'm LGBTQ exclusive. I'm not a misogynist. 75 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm not anti black woman. I'm not just trying to 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: put black men, you know, at the top of the 77 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: food chain when it comes to the hierarchy. 78 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: So I would like for people to send me that work. 79 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: If people are saying that, you know it is that 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: this work exists, then I would like to see some 81 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: evidence of this work. Okay, so good. Let me see 82 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: the good hotels. Okay, don't just send me some old bullshit. 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: I would like the good ones, Okay that everybody claims exists, 84 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: or some people claim exists. But yet I have had 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: crickets and it's been almost a week. 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: All right, let's. 87 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: Get into the show, okay, and let me get to 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: some of these articles and stuff. Got all kinds of 89 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: stuff to talk about. 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: Where we at, There we. 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: Go, We got all kinds of stuff to talk about, 92 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: and we're gonna get into it. So let me find 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: some articles to talk about. 94 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: How about, uh, what's going on with people these days? 95 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: Oh, Usher's Herbie's accuser is suing her insurance company for 96 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: allegedly exposing her medical records to double alls, as Jocelyne 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: would say. 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have no right to do that. 99 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: That is private information. 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: Now she's a legend that I mean. 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: Now we know that she had her twenty million dollars 102 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: lawsuit dismissed, which was easily proven false. When you know, 103 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: I guess she ain't got herbie, So it's like, what's 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: the point. But yeah, it's a legend of insurance broker 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: representing three companies exposed her medical records and as a result, 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: she's taking it to the courts and the claim. She 107 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 3: states her application from when she applied for insurance ended 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: up plastered all over a blog. What she says included 109 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: a lot of sensitive health information. Supposedly, the agent took 110 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: screenshots of the application and aired them out to a 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: media outlet. 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 4: That outlet then published a blog around August the last year. 113 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: The helm is currently in the process of so in 114 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: United Healthcare, Blue Cross, and Blushel of the Louisiana and 115 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: Golden Rule insurance company. She's also planning to suit the 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: unidentified blog for reportedly defaming her character by saying she 117 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: committed insurance fraud. HM, well, I mean they did violate 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: her I don't know. 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: It seemed like that would be some violation. 120 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even if she's a scammer, you can't 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: really like expose that to the media. 122 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: That's for the courts to play out. 123 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 6: Come on, let them call for the information and nick 124 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 6: be given to them. 125 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: But you know, when you get jobs like this. 126 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 6: And even some of the things I do with my job, 127 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 6: you sound wailes of shit saying that I won't do this, 128 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 6: and if I do this, charges could be pressed against me. 129 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 130 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: So if she's right, even if she lost that, even 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: if she was proven to be lying or whatever. 132 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: It is, it is right, and you ain't no business 133 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 5: doing that. 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I know what I forgot to mention. This is 135 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: what I meant to say. Our calendars came in. 136 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they are gorgeous, guys. 137 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: I ordered fifty of them. 138 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: But I have to send something out to some people 139 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: because anybody who's in the calendar, not including like the 140 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: group shots, but like the people that we took pictures with. 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna try to put them in the make sure 142 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: we send them one free or whatnot, and then I 143 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: don't know, I guess we'll give away the rest or 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: something I would sell them but I literally don't know 145 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: how we can sell these calendars two people. 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: But you know we got some good Yeah. 147 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 5: Like I said, if you really won't do we can 148 00:06:59,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: find a way. 149 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 150 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: I ask people to send me ideas on how we 151 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: can do it if they want to, if they want 152 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: to be have a chance to purchase one rather than 153 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: just the lucky the draw of us giving them away. 154 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: But you know, if nobody hits us up, then I'm 155 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: gonna just go ahead and give them away and try 156 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: to give them away by the end of January so 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: everybody can get the twelve months. 158 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: Of use out of it. 159 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: But I gotta I gotta mail all the people that 160 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: are in this joint or at least see. 161 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 6: If they want one, because I know we had a 162 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 6: good time last year playing the games and stuff. 163 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and but we had way less calendars last time. 164 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: I think we only had like ten or twenty, but fifty. 165 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we'll see though. At any rate, man, 166 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: these calendars are pretty dope, pretty fun. 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: We had a great year. 168 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: It was super hard to narrow us down to just 169 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: twelve pictures. 170 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: Yes, had to choose from Yeah, Like it was so particularly. 171 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 6: On my phone, and I had to add up to 172 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 6: Apple was like, hey, bitch, you take it up too 173 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 6: much room pay us. 174 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean I appreciate. You know, we got 175 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: Collie in there again. We got our picture when we 176 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: met Living Color, Yes, Mike from Where's my forty Acres? 177 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: When we got to have dinner with him? 178 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: Yes, we did. 179 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: Got negro Con pictures of course we have when we 180 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: went to you know, went out to eat with the 181 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: safety pining box folks. You know, we got so I 182 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: had to hook people up with their calendars so they 183 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: can get theirs. But after that, you know, like I said, 184 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: we can maybe find out a website or something. If not, 185 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: just give them away. And of course that's us for Christmas. 186 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: So you know, hope you guys are trying to get 187 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 3: in these calendars, man, because we're trying to definitely get 188 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: into you. 189 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the show show. Let's get 190 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: back to these news articles. North Carolina is our order 191 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: to redraw it congressional map. Mm hmm. 192 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: North Carolina is ordered to redraw it congressional map Panora. 193 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: Federal judges struck down North Carolina's congressional map on Tuesday, 194 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: condemning it as constitutional because Republicans had drawn the map 195 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: seeking a political advantage. Yeah, it was so bad that 196 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: the there's a third party, Like, why am I forgetting 197 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: the name of them? There's a third party organization that 198 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: measures like countries to see if their democracies or not, 199 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: and it measures it by things like voting district, voter supression. 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: Stuff like this. North Carolina got ruled not a democracy. 201 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 5: I believe that because these niggas. 202 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: Don't care, right, So yeah. 203 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: Judge James A. Win Junior wrote one hundred and ninety 204 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 3: one page opinion. 205 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 5: Good God, at want to say. 206 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: How do judges even do? 207 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 6: That? 208 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: Said that the Republicans in North Carolina's legislators have been 209 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: motivated by invidious partisan intent as they carried out their 210 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: obligation in twenty sixteen to divide the state in the 211 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: thirteen congressional districts, ten of which are held by Republicans. 212 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: The result, Judge win wrote, violated the Fourteenth Amendbers guarantee 213 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: of equal protection. 214 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: The ruling and it is. 215 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: Chief and its chief demand that the Republican dominated the 216 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: legislature created a new lance escape of congressional districts by 217 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: January twenty fourth, infused new turmoil into political chaos that 218 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: has in recent years developed North Carolina. President Trump carried 219 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: North Carolina twenty sixteen, but the state elected the Democrat 220 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: as governor on the same day and in two thousand 221 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: and eight supported President Barack Obama. Yeah, it's very frustrating 222 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: to living here. But I've tried to explain to people 223 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: the reputation that we have for our state is more 224 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: about people at the top changing literally changing our politics right, 225 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: being bought and sold like they have bought and sold 226 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: our state. And it took a hell of an effort 227 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: just to get us a Democratic elected governor again. And 228 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: it's obvious people don't fuck with Pat McCrory. He's not 229 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: that popular. But think about how comfortable he must have 230 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: felt to be the ant to be the leading the 231 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: charge on bigotry from this state, a state they went 232 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: to Obama in eight. They were so shook to that 233 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: core at the fact that this country, this state went 234 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: blue in eight that they made sure they vowed it 235 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: will never do that ship again. 236 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 6: Come on, now, they started passing rules and and and 237 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 6: the thing about it is that when a lot of 238 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 6: people hear about the bullshit that coming out of our state, 239 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 6: a lot of times, it is not coming from the 240 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 6: large population. 241 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of these places. 242 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 6: Come from the rural, rural areas which which the population 243 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 6: is not as big. But a lot of those people 244 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 6: are like in the house and in the center of 245 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 6: the stuate of North Carolina, and those are the motherfuckers 246 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 6: that's going in there passing these. 247 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: Fuck ass laws and fucking ass rules. 248 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 6: You know, because if you really talk about Charlotte and 249 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 6: the Raleighdurham area, most of these areas which which most 250 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 6: of the black people in the state live in these 251 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 6: concentrated areas. There's people all across the state, but as 252 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: far as say population wise, most most brown people live 253 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 6: in these cities. So most of us don't give a 254 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 6: fuck and don't care, you know. But the but the 255 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 6: people in these rural areas, these are the people there's 256 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 6: against the bullshit, and these are the people that want 257 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 6: to shut down playing parenthood like these are the people 258 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 6: that got these locks. You're like, when people hear about 259 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 6: it and they don't actually live here, they just think 260 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 6: with some baccos ass a state and that's not so well. 261 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: Also, just even in the rural areas, it's not that 262 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: one sided, correct you know, like most states in the South, 263 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: you have a heavy population of black people, and because 264 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: of that, you have a bunch of legislation and systemic 265 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: practices to marginalize our vote. You know, you have mass 266 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: incarceration more in the South than up north. 267 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: You know, you have more. This is where you had 268 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: Jim Crow, That's where you had segregation. 269 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 5: More. 270 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: Like, they've always been trying to find a way to 271 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: push black people out of control, out of any level 272 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: of power. And in two thousand and eight they were 273 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: scared to their core because it's, oh my god, these 274 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: black people shifted our electorate. You know, we didn't We 275 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: thought we'd go red again, and here we are going blue. 276 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: And it was like a shocking turn. And I think 277 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: we would have gone blue again in twy ten, twenty twelve, fourteen. 278 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: But yet they kept, you know, start they started rigging 279 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: shit up more and more voter suppression, voter I D laws, 280 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: all this shit, and you know, changing the voter hours, 281 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like, no one's voting for these things. The 282 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: law about minimum wage and you can use whatever bathroom 283 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: you want was a local Charlotte law to our city, 284 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: which is a very kind of liberal city. 285 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: Compared to comparatively. 286 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: That pushback, that right rip the whole state was a 287 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: few people in power saying no. And in addition to that, 288 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: we're not letting you raisement on wage and we're passing 289 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: trans bathroom laws like that was all a response from 290 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: a handful of people. That's not the We didn't have 291 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: a citizen like a referendum, like the citizens in North 292 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: Carolina didn't get the vote. 293 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 5: On That's that's the thing. 294 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 6: That's what It's hard to get people dotands like y'all, 295 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: we don't vote on this shit. 296 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 5: This is shit. Did they do private sessions. 297 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 6: Three am in the morning, when fucking people are sleeping 298 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 6: pass laws in the middle of the night. 299 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: You wake up at six am. This in an NPR. 300 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 6: They don't fucking voted on something, and you're like, what 301 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 6: the fuck? Nobody even knew this bullshit was happening. 302 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: This can happen to your state, is the point I 303 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 3: want to say. You know, like you have to be vigilant, 304 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: You have to keep voting, you have to keep putting 305 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: up a fight because you know, maybe and maybe this 306 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: judge so has settled it, maybe it hasn't, but you know, 307 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: they can take away your democracy from you if you 308 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: don't fight for it, you know, and apathy isn't to me, 309 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: isn't the answer? And saying I just fuck, I refuse 310 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: to vote, I refuse it to participate in the system. 311 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: To me, that's not the answer. So uh for me personally, 312 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: I feel like this is everyone has to be vigilant 313 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: and pay attention to these kind of things. 314 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: All right, let's see what else is happening. How about 315 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: how about this? 316 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: Uh? 317 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: Why bad apologies are worse than no apologies at all? 318 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: Have bad apologies to mind the important social function? And sorry? 319 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: Have that care? 320 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: Yes, this year has been chock full of unjustified behavior 321 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: from men and powerful positions. It has also been a 322 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: year full of terrible I'm sorries. If this year has 323 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: taught us anything is that when you apologize to you 324 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: for your reprehensible and. 325 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: Crue behavior, it had better be a good apology. 326 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: If it isn't, the public's wrath might be worse than 327 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: what followed the original offense. 328 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you might, as when I say nothing. 329 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: The constant cycle of bad men and bad apologies leads 330 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: me to wonder do apologies hold any real value in 331 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: our society anymore? And Is there any hope for someone 332 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: to issue a crowd please and plead for forgiveness? Or 333 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: are we all just so desensitized because apologies have become 334 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: so disappointed we don't even know what a good one 335 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: looks like anymore. Nick Smith of Philosophy, professor at the 336 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: University of New Hampshire, who wrote a book on apologies 337 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: called I Was Wrong, told Solon that apologies are an 338 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: inflated moral currency. Apologies are a sharp, double ed sword 339 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: and modern life. Smith continues, sometimes they seem to be 340 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: the rare and almost sacred gesture above all this crassness 341 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: and cynicism, where we stop and honor our core values. 342 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 3: But because of this, offenders can weaponize apologies to manipulate 343 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: our deepest traditions and values, he added. Smith explained that 344 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: apologies can indeed cause more hurt than good. Apologies are 345 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: like love in disrespect, and that the spiritual depth of 346 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: these ideas can provide profound meaning for profound or profound damage. 347 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 348 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: I was actually listening to Keith and a Girl episode today. 349 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: It was called no Apologies. It is like the one 350 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: that just came out today. It was so good, but 351 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: they had this dude that you know how they were 352 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: gonna do a show on Saturdays or whatever, and they're 353 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: still gonna do that. 354 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: But there's something happened over the break where one. 355 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: Of the dudes who was like the head of some 356 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: radio shit with them, like not with Keith and a girl, 357 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: but the company they wanted to work with them, got 358 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: accused of being like a very manipulative, abusive boyfriend. Oh 359 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: and he wrote this apology on his tumbler. You have 360 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: to it's it's fucking like, it's just he might as well. 361 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: It was so manipulative and abusive it wasn't an apology. 362 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: It's just more abuse and manipulation. I feel like people 363 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: can sense that, you know, I don't have to be 364 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 3: the person that was abused a sense you're not sincere 365 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: with this bullshit. 366 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, I can. 367 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: Understand how no apology can be even worse right, I mean, 368 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: a bad apology can be even. 369 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 5: Worse correct correct. 370 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 6: Sometimes it's best not to say anything, and people don't 371 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 6: want to hear that because we live in a society 372 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 6: that's demands an answer no matter what. It will criticize 373 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 6: the answer no matter what. And the thing about an apology, 374 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 6: particularly if its apology is sincere. The apology is when 375 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 6: somebody apologized, it said, Okay, I fucked up, I messed 376 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 6: up my bad. I will change, I will make a 377 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 6: corrective maneuver, I will do things, put things in place 378 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 6: so that this won't happen again. And then if it's 379 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 6: sincere apology, the behavior over time will indicate that this 380 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 6: is a sincere change. And the thing is is that 381 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 6: when people are hurt, people have a tendency to never 382 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 6: want you to leave that spot. And that's the problem, 383 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 6: and it's not the person apologizing, the actual me apologizing. 384 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: I cannot force or make. 385 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 6: You accept my apology, which is fine, But what I 386 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 6: can do is apologize and move on. 387 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: If you're determined that you want to. 388 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 6: Stay stuck, I don't have anything to do with you 389 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 6: staying stuck. And a lot of people are stuck in 390 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 6: this anger about all types of different things and there's 391 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 6: nothing anybody can say. 392 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: Or do to get them to accept apologies. 393 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: Which I understand you're not obligating to accept anybody' apology, 394 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: but that person is not obligated to consistently apologize about 395 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 6: some shit, especially if they have apologized, because what it 396 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 6: is I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm 397 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 6: sorry you get into that mode because every time your 398 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 6: face or your presence, you just provoke something within this person. 399 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: So if that case, yes, it can be devastating and 400 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 6: damaging to both parties involved in this situation like that, Oh, 401 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 6: in this situation like that in my opinion, But because 402 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 6: most people aren't crazy like that, because that's what but see, 403 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 6: the Internet is how people respond im me and you 404 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 6: talking about that, the way people react on social media. 405 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 6: If they responded this way in real life, you'd be 406 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 6: a sociopath. If somebody was having a conversation, me and 407 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 6: you was having a conversation and you jump in out 408 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 6: the blue go. 409 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 5: Hey, y'all, let's and we'd be like, what the fuck? 410 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 6: You didn't have anything to do this conversation. On social media, 411 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 6: that's considered acceptable. If me and you are talking and 412 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 6: somebody comes in and start yelling and start, you know, 413 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 6: just doing these crazy shit, you would be considered insane. 414 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 5: But it's acceptable on social media. 415 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 6: And I think a lot of times when it comes 416 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 6: to apologies, because social media is the place where people are, 417 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 6: you have to apologize on social media, which I don't 418 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 6: have a problem apologizing on social media. 419 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 5: But even in social media, people can read and. 420 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 6: They can tell whether it's YouTube or you're writing whatever, 421 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 6: if you're it's real or sincere or not. 422 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: Well. 423 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: Also, I just don't think there's any apology that's good enough. Yeah, 424 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: we're being honest. I've never seen people go, that's a 425 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: good apology. We all agree, it's always some people that 426 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: don't want to agree. More importantly, because honestly, what's really 427 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: happening is the initial infraction is where you fucked up, 428 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: and people aren't. There's some people that they'll never let 429 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: it go, and in their zeal to never let it go, 430 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: they also will go, I'll never accept their apology or 431 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: disapology is trash no matter what. 432 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 7: Like that. 433 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to kind of take those people 434 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: out their equation, but yeah, they exist. It's a real phenomenon. 435 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: And then there's this other side of not accepting the 436 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 3: apology when you're not really an the offended party, like 437 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: a lot of us are third party to things. 438 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: Right. 439 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: It's someone apologizing to people they've heard or apologizing to 440 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: their fans, and in many cases people that aren't even 441 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: their fans will be like, I don't accept this apologies like, well, 442 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: you're not they're not even talking to you. 443 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: Really. 444 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say, though, there's power in not accepting 445 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: the apology. Human beings don't like giving up power, you know, 446 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: the same way that I say on social media, the 447 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: way we can block somebody, unfriend them, unfollow whatever. It 448 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: makes us feel more powerful than we really are in 449 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: real life. And I think we are attracted to these 450 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: methodologies of amassing what feels like power, you know. It's 451 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: why we you know, I you know, I know I'm 452 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: a little bit weird as far as uh not being 453 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: a joiner, but I know most people are joiners. 454 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: Most people like being in Facebook groups. 455 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: Most people like being in you know, kind of having 456 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: clicks and stuff, and the only power to click is 457 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: some people can't come in, you know, and most people 458 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: don't want to give up that power. 459 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: You know. 460 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: Shared dislike is such a huge motivator. 461 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: For what most people would consider relationships on social media. 462 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: And when you. 463 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: Break that mold and go I actually don't have a 464 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 3: problem with this person. It's then you kind of come 465 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: to enemies sometimes or you become like persona non grata. 466 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's like when people find out. 467 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: It's like when I see people going off about the Kardashians, 468 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I actually don't have a problem with 469 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: the Kardashians. 470 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: I just don't fuck with them. 471 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: Right Like, I don't watch them, I don't consume them, 472 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: right Like, if they're annoying or bad people, I just 473 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: don't keep up with them ironically, So no pun intended, 474 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: but you know, but it's like, but it's like, oh, 475 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: you're opting out of disliking this thing with me, you 476 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean. You know, it's that thing where 477 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I can't We're not going to always 478 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: be sympathical on everything. So I think that's a huge 479 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: part of there's a social pressure to not accept apologies 480 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: quote unquote. But keep in mind, are they really even 481 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: apologizing to you? You know what I'm saying, Like, is 482 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: it really my apology to accept? In many cases, it's not, 483 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: all right? So then there's this other part. I would say, 484 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: the vast majority of apologies that I've seen are what 485 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: I would call passable right where or minimal if that much? 486 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: Because that's conflicting advice on apologies, right well, he look, 487 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: he sounded he was just reading a statement from his publicist. Okay, 488 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 3: so then don't read a statement from my publicis got it? 489 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: Try to sign authentic? Oh, he sounded he was just 490 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: making it up. If you care, you go get somebody 491 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: write down what you need to say. You can't win, yeah, 492 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: because because we're upset. It's the anger. And I think 493 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: if you look past the whether they accept the apology 494 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: or not, you find it's the anger that hasn't gone away. 495 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: The other thing I would say about social media that 496 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: you brought up is a great point, but time. Now's 497 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: see what most things that you apologize for you need 498 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 3: time to understand how you fucked up. And you don't 499 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 3: always learn that lesson fast enough for the internet. So 500 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: I remember what cam Newton fucked up, and he issued 501 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: his apology or whatever it took him like two or 502 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: three days. People like, I fuck him forever. I don't 503 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: care anymore now. It also looked like he refused to 504 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: read a grip. He was just coming off the top 505 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: of his dome, and he still had words that weren't perfect. 506 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: I still remember him saying like I have a daughter, 507 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: I have a mom, and you know, and I remember 508 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: when we played it on here, you being like I 509 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: hate when. 510 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: People do that that's terrible or whatever. 511 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: So like it, even in his sincere apology or whatever, 512 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: he's still fucking up. 513 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: He still doesn't know the perfect words. He's you know. 514 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: And I think also because of social media, we are 515 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: now in touch. 516 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: With people that are like PhDs and fucking. 517 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: You know, academics and stuff that have all the perfect 518 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: words all the time as far as they're concerned, and 519 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: they're like, well, this is how he's supposed to say that, 520 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: or you know, this is where this analysis was missing. 521 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: Talking to somebody who don't have any media training a lot. 522 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: Of yeah, or even if they have media training, they 523 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: just might not be as good at this as somebody 524 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 3: that went to school for it for twelve years correct 525 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 3: at picking the right. 526 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 4: Words and shit. 527 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: So all that to say in general, though, like I said, 528 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 3: I consider those apologies mostly passable, which means most those 529 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 3: people will let it go. Our little internet bubble is 530 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 3: not that it's not really a representative. 531 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 4: Of America or the world. 532 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 3: To be honest, Like what football fan is still holding 533 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: that grudge against Cam? I would say in my circle 534 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: of people, a lot of people still like fuck him. 535 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: I can't believe he. 536 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Said that shit in life though. If I walk the 537 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: street and just start talking to people, they be. 538 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: Like, what what what are that? Female? Shit? Yeah? Whatever, 539 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 4: you know, that's the that's the reality of it, you know. 540 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: Like I said, it's one of the reasons I backed 541 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: away a little bit from people because I'm like, oh, wait, 542 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: this is a cycle of us constantly sounding off, but 543 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 3: it's not It's not really real, you know, And I 544 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: think that matters. When you can step back from people, 545 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: you can see like, oh what you what we're doing 546 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: isn't really representative of the world or really changing the 547 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: world sometimes, and we have to pick and choose our 548 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: battles and our energy. All that to say, though we've 549 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 3: talked about the exceptions, right, uh, there's still a significant 550 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: number of apologies that are just fucking terrible, and those 551 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: apologies I would rather you not even apologize. Kevin's basically 552 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 3: being like, I'm drunk, I don't remember. Also, I'm gay. 553 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: That's that's terrible, yes, which was a Battelli whichever one 554 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: linked the fucking recipe ad at the end of his Yeah, terrible, terrible. Like, 555 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: some of these apologies are more about even if they're real, 556 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: sincere or whatever, we're just asking you to apologize as 557 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 3: fast as possible. And one of the things people leave 558 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 3: out a lot of times when it comes to these 559 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: apologies in public, if you're talking about something criminal, If 560 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: you're talking about something criminal, most people are not going 561 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: to incriminate themselves because they want Twitter to like them. 562 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: And most most I would hope that most people that 563 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: I know are smart enough to be like, let me 564 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: not go out here and say something to please other 565 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: people and then fuck around and be in jail, you 566 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I would like to think a 567 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: lot of people are smarter than that, But I don't know, 568 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: because because like, there's a time for that shit, and 569 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: there's a time where you can't you know, And a 570 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: lot of times what we see is the public like discussion, 571 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: but we don't see the private discussion when people are 572 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 3: signed like NDA's people are signed, like you know, lawyers 573 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: have advised against hey, don't say this, don't say that. 574 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: Well what can I say? 575 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: Look, you can say I'm sorry if I hurt somebody's feelings, 576 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: but you better not take no liability for this shit, 577 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: because you take liability and were up in court and 578 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: you're like, how did I lose a million? 579 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: Dollars. 580 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: I got to sit up here and be like, well, 581 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: when your dumb ass said I did those. 582 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 4: Things and I'm sorry, you literally gave me. 583 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: Nothing to work with that, that is, they are taking 584 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: that as the gospel truth, right, no mitigating circumstances, you know, 585 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: the court of all. 586 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: A lot of times. 587 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: They have shit like like this co shared responsibility for 588 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: things where you can be like, I was this percentage 589 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 3: responsible for this wreck I got into, you know, and 590 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: they were disperpientaged and that's how much money I'm gonna 591 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 3: pay them, gonna pay me or whatever. That doesn't exist 592 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: and you know on the internet, you know, that doesn't 593 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: exist in public opinions. So you know, I think it's 594 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: a lot harder to navigate that space than people give 595 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: it credit for. And then also the people I'll see 596 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 3: the toughest on apologies are always the people I've never 597 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: seen apologize. 598 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: Come on, you know what I. 599 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 3: Mean, Like, I've seen them be wrong and they and 600 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: they be shitty to people when they're wrong. 601 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: They never go back, hey man, I was wrong about 602 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: that thing. 603 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: But if they made a public stink about it, they 604 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: never go back in public and say, hey man, I 605 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: really shouldn't have said those things about you. 606 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 4: You know, I was. 607 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: I was absolutely wrong and out of pocket for that shit, 608 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: and I apologize. But it's always those people that never 609 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: apologize to sit around being like this apology is terrible, 610 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: new person, get out of here, canceled or whatever. And 611 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: you're like that, Okay, I'm gonna wait till you fuck 612 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: up and see what you say, because it's never It's 613 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: never that everybody, you know, because everybody got a chance 614 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: to be on the Summer Jam screen, everybody, so you 615 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: know that grace and mercy and shit people be talking about. 616 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: It's non existing until it's them. And that's just how 617 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: most people function, right. 618 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 6: I try my best to extend it because you know, 619 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 6: I know that's real. But you know for some people 620 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 6: that don't extend it to nobody, but they wanted to 621 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 6: return and it don't work like that. 622 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, like a lot of the stuff that 623 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: would require a good apology would take place behind the scenes, yes, 624 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: you know, private, cause if like say, I did something 625 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: fucked up to somebody and then you catch me, I'm 626 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: on Twitter, like I apologize with this person. 627 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, da da da da. People be like that's 628 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: not good enough. 629 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: But if I hit that person up privately and like, look, man, 630 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: how can I make this right? I like, you know, 631 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: let me help you with this skill that I have. 632 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 3: Let me put some money on this thing. Let me 633 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: repair this bridge, this foundation that I've broken, you know, 634 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: let me you know, what are the things you need 635 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 3: for me to help you feel whole. Those things might 636 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: happen in private, they might happen behind closed doors, or 637 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: when it's made public. 638 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: Other people that aren't involved will be like, that's not enough. 639 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: But the person that was that we should care about, 640 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: the person that was, you know, had whatever that that's 641 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: being apologized to, they might actually be like, that's fine, 642 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: this is perfect, this is cool, this is exactly what 643 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: I want. 644 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 4: Nobody gives a fuck about that shit. It's just you 645 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: have a. 646 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: Chance to put the scarlet letter on somebody, and that's 647 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: more important. 648 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 6: Yes, And you can make their apology about you and 649 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 6: out about them or the apology or the person to 650 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 6: apologizing too. It gives you a chance to come and 651 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: grandstand on something that a lot of times has nothing 652 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 6: to do with you. 653 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 654 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: So I would say for the most part, the apologies 655 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: are passable. And then there's a part like, I've never 656 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: seen anyone do do an apology that I saw most 657 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: people I know go, that was a good apology. I've 658 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: never seen one, so I really don't think it's possible, 659 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: like unless you just like the person or something. So 660 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: you're like, I trust that they really didn't mean to 661 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: do that. That's different because you already like them. But 662 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: I've never seen people go, I don't uh when self 663 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: rogan apologize and you know what I use it don't 664 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: fuck with self? 665 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: But that was a good asspology. I've never seen that. 666 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: And now I've seen people that like people not only 667 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: accept a good apology, but except a bad one too, right, Like, oh, 668 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: louis c K so powerful, so strong, and you're like, 669 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: that's actually not a good apology, but okay, you know, 670 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: and also live in. 671 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 6: An age where people fuck up and they will publicly 672 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 6: come out and say I fuck up. But it's not 673 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: read an apology, right, it's y'all, I fucked up. Everybody's 674 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 6: seen me fuck up, right, I fucked up? 675 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 5: All right? Can we move on? 676 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 6: That's not a goddamn apology. Acknowledging that you fucked up 677 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 6: is not an apology. 678 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's not even the ones I'm counting as that 679 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: was count as bad, right terrible, you know, but like yeah, 680 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: brands sometimes H and M brilliant villa and said H 681 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: and M had good apology, right. I remember reading some 682 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: of the yesterday, and I still don't remember the response 683 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: to people being like, Okay, H and un fucked up. 684 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: But we're back to you know, I still fuck with 685 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: H and M. Now, you know what I mean. It's 686 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: gonna be fucked them forever. I don't remember that article 687 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: that ad that picture of that little black boy, and 688 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: people are gonna be like fucking them. I guarantee if 689 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: I brought up H and M on Twitter in a week, 690 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: it's gonna mostly be jokes about that because people are 691 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: gonna be like fuck them. I just don't think there's 692 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: a such thing as a good apology anymore that people 693 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 3: that most people would accept, I think the only people. 694 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: So anyway, all this to say, uh, and I think 695 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if people recognize this, but I've said 696 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: on the show before an apology is a selfish act 697 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 3: and it's for you, and that's okay, correct, It's not 698 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: even really for the offended party to be honest like 699 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: everyone thinks it's for the person that who was hurt. 700 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: That's not really true. 701 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: Maybe restitution could possibly be for the person that was hurt, 702 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: but that's only possibly because sometimes a person that was 703 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 3: hurt don't want nothing to do with your ass right. 704 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: Sometimes person that was hurt was like, I wouldn't accept 705 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: the apology on your fucking grade on your deathbed. I 706 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: don't give a fuck, So there might not be a 707 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 3: chance for restitution. That's a completely different process. Yes, the 708 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 3: apology is about learning something from it for yourself and 709 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: moving allowing yourself to move on past the mistakes that 710 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: you made, which if you're sincere. 711 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 4: If you're sincere is a tough thing. 712 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: For people that aren't, that are insincere, then no, I 713 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: mean that's psychopath that social paths. 714 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: They'll just be like fuck them, I don't give a fuck. 715 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 3: They probably wouldn't apologize, or if they did, we'd all 716 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: see like this a terrible apology. But in general, yeah, 717 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: it's I think an apologize mostly for you. You know, 718 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: even if you apologize to the public, you're just really 719 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: letting them know your process of I fucked up. I'm sorry, 720 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: I'm moving on, but I'm gonna take this lesson with 721 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: me and da da da da, Like, I'm not gonna 722 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: kill myself for y'all. 723 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: So this is what you got. 724 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: If I wake up tomorrow breathing, it's completely fine that 725 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: some of y'all not gonna fuck with me no more, right, 726 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: And I have to accept that that you hear my 727 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: name and you're gonna be like, fuck him. That's that's 728 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: just the that's the mistake I made. But I can't 729 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: obsess over getting these people back because people with a 730 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: little bit of power, people with a little bit of power. 731 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: Are fucking tyrants, you know what I mean. 732 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: It's like how people are shitty the waiters, right, Like, 733 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: you have a little bit of power and now you're 734 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: a fucking like you're you want to be treated like 735 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: a king. That's kind of how people get on in general, 736 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: when it comes to someone fucking up and apologizing, well, 737 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: now I won't my eggs served me in bed? 738 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: You know what, Like, what what are you talking about? 739 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: I don't, right, So it just is a thing, you know, 740 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what are you gonna say something I. 741 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 5: Was gonna say? 742 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 6: You know, And when it comes to apology, when you're 743 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 6: talking about how people with a little bit of power. 744 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 5: Because the thing is, uh, people like power. I mean, 745 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 5: it's just human nature to like power. 746 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 6: But it's one of those things where the average person 747 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 6: would abuse power if putting in the if they're putting 748 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 6: the position where they can. It's rarity that you have 749 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 6: a person in power that will not abuse their power. 750 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some to some extent, part of the 751 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: way people are about apologies is about them having power 752 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: for a second. But oh, I get a chance to 753 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: say no to something, yes or no. No, bitch, this 754 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: apologies terrible fuck you. You know, it's like and it 755 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: don't matter. It's like I got a chance to boo. 756 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: It's like the Apollo Sometimes I just got I got 757 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: a chance to boo. I'm a boodhist shit like you 758 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: gotta be the best singer in the world. You want 759 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: to do some motherfucking cheers. But yeah, still that's a 760 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: good conversation. Uh, let's get to some other stuff. 761 00:35:44,200 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: How about uh, how about this, let's do this. There 762 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: is something. 763 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: I want to ask you, there's something that I. 764 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 5: Want to know. 765 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: Answer this question. 766 00:36:52,000 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: You have the answer, So tell me what I don't know. 767 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: Ju you wanna funk do your wanna funk, won't Tamman? 768 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 4: Now? Won't you Tammis? 769 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 5: Now? 770 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 4: If you wanna funk, let me show your hound? 771 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 5: Do you wanna funk with me? 772 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: Ju? 773 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: Your wanna fun with me? All right, let's get into 774 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 4: this terrible news. Oh god man, listen. 775 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: So apparently there's a show with Genuine on it that's 776 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 3: a reality. 777 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 4: Show Big Brother. Never heard of it? 778 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't watch it either, but this in like 779 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: his seventeenth season celebrity Big Brother UK. 780 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: Genuine was on it, right, so he uhh. 781 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: I heard the show Big Brother? 782 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 4: Oh? 783 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 6: I thought you meant like a new show with Okay, Okay, 784 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 6: I've heard of the show Big Brother. 785 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so I've never watched. 786 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 5: It neither, but I've heard of it. 787 00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 4: Well. 788 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: He was asked by his fellow housemate India Willoughby, who 789 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: was a transgender woman, whether he would date her, right, 790 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: he said, And he basically said no. She says I'm 791 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 3: a woman? Right, forget how many? Forget about any teas 792 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: or any Wait? 793 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 4: Can I just play this? 794 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: Let me see how long this clip is. This isn't 795 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: the whole show. We'll see you in a second. 796 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 4: Twenty seven seconds. 797 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll just play the audio from this and you 798 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: guys can hear yourselves. 799 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 4: Oh god, why is that so quiet? Woman? Okay, so 800 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 4: on that story you were not No, no, I'm not 801 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 4: telling you. 802 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 8: I'm trying to a woman. 803 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Wait was that? It was that? It? Wait? 804 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 4: Hold am I missing something? Hold on? Let me play 805 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 4: this again a woman? Yeah, okay, I guess I must. 806 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what your niggas I'm mad about as 807 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 4: far as. 808 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 5: Now, let's just move to the clip that d ain't showing. 809 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 4: So here's the thing I want to I wanna be 810 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: clear on. 811 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: I've seen umpteenth articles at upteenth fucking straight people coming 812 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 3: out and being like, you can't make me kiss a 813 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: trans person. 814 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 4: What I didn't really see an attempt for. 815 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: Kids go there, hug him from behind, and then she 816 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 3: sat there. But this is really important, and I need 817 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 3: people to understand the ship because it's it's levels to 818 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 3: all this, the same with the Coolio ship. That was 819 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: the reality of what happened. What we just saw very 820 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: nonchalant interaction, if if at best. 821 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 4: So then. 822 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: Articles start popping up saying genuine accuse of transphobia because 823 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: he wouldn't kiss a tr woman. 824 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 5: What was a kid nobody said anything, but how do 825 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 5: we get to a kiss? 826 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 3: So no one on the show accused him of transphobia. 827 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: No he didn't. 828 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 3: Actually it wasn't actually a kiss. It was like some 829 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: type of hug or something. The other part of this 830 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 3: that I find crucially important, no one accused him of transphobia. 831 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 3: I think it's important to note this, like, not on 832 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 3: social media, not on the show, not in an article. 833 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: No one was sitting around going look at this transphobic motherfucker. 834 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: Everyone understands that every individual human being has the right 835 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: to not want affection or sexual attention from another human 836 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: being if they don't want wish it for whatever fucking 837 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: reason they want. 838 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 4: No one got injured. 839 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 3: It's just the same way that a dude can't walk 840 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: up to a woman and be like, so, you wouldn't 841 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: date a black man and start trying to clung her 842 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 3: down like that. 843 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: That's not even a. 844 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 3: Discussion, Like we don't go, well, you're racist. You wouldn't 845 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: let a black man just come up to you and 846 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: tongue you down without you know, like you No, I 847 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: just don't want you kissing me, right now, that's my right, right, 848 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 3: So I find that interesting. Right, But even even still 849 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: beyond that, the backlash. 850 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 4: To the people quote unquote. 851 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm putting in quotes because they I really didn't see 852 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: any evidence of these people who accused Genuina transphobia. That 853 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: backlash was super transphobia. That shit was super transferred. I 854 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 3: believe that I watched that shit. 855 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: That shit. This is the same thing with the Kulio thing. 856 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: They set They set people up to expose their own bigotry. 857 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 3: They set people up, and people fall for. 858 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 4: A hook line and sinker. Every time. I can already. 859 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 3: Guarantee like what media I'm going to consume this week, 860 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: and how they'll feel about it and what they'll say. 861 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 4: Would I doing any research, I can. 862 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 5: Already do it straight. 863 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: People are so fucking dumb when it comes to this 864 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 3: ship like this ad people, because they will immediately jump 865 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 3: to the repulsion, right. They don't realize they're expressing repulsion. 866 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 3: They don't realize they're expressing bigotry. They don't realize that 867 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 3: they're like, I'm just expressing my right to say no. 868 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 3: You're so fucking adamant that it makes people go, wait 869 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: a minute, this isn't. 870 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 4: Even a real situation that happened. 871 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: Why are you stressing this, you know, it's it's to 872 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 3: the it's it's basically. 873 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 4: Like when. 874 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 3: It's like if I said, hey, you know what, black people, 875 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 3: you are obligated to Like I said, you're obligated to 876 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 3: make out with a black man if you go to 877 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 3: the club, or you're racist, and white people would be like, who, No, 878 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: you can't make me make I'm not racist because I 879 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: don't want to make out with a black man. You 880 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 3: don't get to tell me what to do. And I'd 881 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: be like that that's a valid that is valid. No 882 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 3: one should be able to make you do whatever. But 883 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 3: also in this case, you don't have that first part. 884 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 3: No one said that you have to do anything. And 885 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: I've seen people that sometimes seen reasonable people can't wait 886 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: to grandstand and soapbox on this, and it says so 887 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 3: much about what was inside of them the whole time. 888 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 3: Of course, it says so much because it's a different 889 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: response from like most people should have done. Oh I 890 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: watched the video. That's not even what happened. She you know, 891 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: video in the video tried to paint her bad too. 892 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: I mean the descriptions, Oh, she stomped off, we just 893 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 3: saw it. 894 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 4: She sat there. 895 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 3: You know, it's a debate on Twitter about what's transphobic? 896 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 3: Linking us to zero tweets? Guys, when have you ever 897 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 3: most articles now are nothing. 898 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: But an aggregation of tweets. 899 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: Come when have y'all ever seen an article that said 900 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: there was a debate on Twitter and didn't include the tweets. 901 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 3: Even when they make a shitty argument that's not true, 902 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 3: they always include the fucking tweets. Like when they go 903 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: everybody's talking bad about Gabby Douglas's hair, and they'll have 904 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 3: like four black women that said something with two tweets 905 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 3: with no you know, like with foe likes and no retweets, 906 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: and then go look at this debate and you're like, 907 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: that's actually not a debate. No one actually engaged these people, 908 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 3: No one agrees with these people. The same thing happened 909 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: with the Black panther boycott thing that we. 910 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 4: Covered on the show earlier. 911 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 3: It wasn't real, and yet it gave everyone a chance 912 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: to go, I hate black women enough to come out 913 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 3: and be like, these black women need to know they 914 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 3: place these bitches, they can't wait, they can't. 915 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 4: Help themselves, and we make it real. 916 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 3: So the same way I felt when I was talking 917 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 3: about Saturday about how we do black women on that 918 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 3: Black panther shit. That's the same way I feel about 919 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 3: this shit. We can't wait to disavow trans people in general, 920 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 3: like hmmm, you ain't gonna make me kiss you? Why 921 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 3: were you even thinking that that's a thing that was 922 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 3: happening the same way we sexualized homosexual people were like, oh, 923 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 3: I don't want to be around a gay man who 924 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 3: knows what he gonna do to me. Well, probably the 925 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 3: same thing everybody does when they're around other people and 926 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: just hanging out. But somehow, because they're gay, you gotta 927 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 3: worry about them doing something that you quote unquote come on, now, 928 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 3: come on now, Like so yeah, and many of BT 929 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 3: covered this. 930 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 4: BT. 931 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 3: I had a brother that I was talking to on Facebook. 932 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 3: I said, where's your source on this? 933 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 4: You know what? You link me to? 934 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 3: What the Facebook page of The Daily Caller, owned by fucking. 935 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson. You know what else? 936 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 3: You know what else is on that article on that site? 937 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 3: It's articles about how Global Woman is a hoax. 938 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, that's not that's not a reliable source. 939 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 6: What are we talking about here? 940 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 3: The founding of it says America wasn't founded on slavery. 941 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 4: Here's a video debunking the myth. That's what's on this site. 942 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 5: And I was supposed to believe you. 943 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,439 Speaker 4: When did we start getting our news from the Daily Caller? 944 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 3: When your values aligned with a right wing rag like that, 945 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 3: you're probably wrong. 946 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 4: You're probably in the fucking wrong. 947 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: When they're sitting up there going like, you know what, 948 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 3: we agree on this with me and tuk Costs might 949 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 3: hate my black ass and be against every he might 950 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 3: call Black Lives Matter terrorists, and he might think everything 951 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 3: we stand for is terrible. But let me tell you something. 952 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 3: Ain't no trans person gonna kiss me in my mouth. Shit, 953 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 3: ain't no trans person gonna kiss me in my mouth? 954 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 3: Hip hop wired cove it Black Twitter forms like Joe 955 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 3: Vo trying to defend genuine against transphobic clams surface. Let's 956 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 3: look at the transphobic claims, right, because you would. 957 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 4: Think they would have the tweets right now. 958 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 3: What I want you to notice in this article they 959 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: have all the tweets quote unquote defending him. 960 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 4: M hm right. 961 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: Why don't they have the initial Why don't they have 962 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 3: the the people that call them transphobic? 963 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 5: Why don't they have that? 964 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 4: No They're not out there. That's my fucking point. They're 965 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 4: not out there. It's a nun story just to get 966 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 4: people hyped up to be like. 967 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 3: You ain't gonna make me. No one, no one's suggesting that. 968 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 3: So where is this coming from? Like not even the obligatory, 969 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: Like oh, there was a couple of people, which still 970 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 3: would be a huge overreaction from what I saw. It 971 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: was like people grand standing and talk. It's still will 972 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 3: be a huge overreaction on other people's part. 973 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 4: But we don't even have that. The fuck is wrong 974 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 4: with people? 975 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 3: Look at these responses, right, These are the people on 976 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: the side of Like I said, it gives you a 977 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 3: chance to express the bigotry that you have in your heart. 978 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 4: The world needs to. 979 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 6: To Okay, I understood what you're saying. That's why I 980 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 6: said day OUTA. I was thinking reverse my bad. Okay, no, no, no, 981 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 6: it's no problem, no problem, It's cool. The world needs 982 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 6: this st s. I gut sit the fuck down and 983 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 6: have several fucking seats. He doesn't have to date shim. 984 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, oh that's very respectful, very respectful. He doesn't 985 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: have to date shim. That's who's on youall side. If 986 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 3: he doesn't want. 987 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 4: To, and a if g had tried to force a 988 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: kiss on. 989 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: Oh girl and quotes, we would have seen hashtag me too, 990 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 3: hashtag genu Wine gets called transphobic for turning down the 991 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 3: kiss from a transgender that that's not true. Like I said, 992 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 3: he didn't get called transphobic. 993 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 5: No, he didn't. 994 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 4: Why where is this coming from? 995 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 3: Where is anyone reading anything, is anyone doing any researches, 996 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 3: anyone doing any follow up? Or is it just a 997 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 3: chance to come out and be like, oh, yeah, I 998 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 3: don't like trans people. Here's my chance to misgender them. 999 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 3: Here's my chance to assume they're predatory in nature, Here's 1000 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 3: my chance to act like this is representative of all 1001 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 3: interactions with trans people. 1002 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 4: You know. 1003 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, trans people literally died in the streets because of 1004 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 3: these type of attitudes promoting this type of culture towards them. 1005 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 3: That they're out here being predatory and tricking us and 1006 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: attacking us, and the only thing they want to do 1007 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 3: is is fuck us and shit like that. That's the 1008 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 3: reaction that people are having. And I'm clicking on the 1009 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 3: YouTube linked she had because I want to see what 1010 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 3: her proof quote unquote of this was. 1011 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 4: Because I think it matters. 1012 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 3: It's an eight minute video called Genuine gets called transphobic. Okay, 1013 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 3: of course it's monetized. Of course it's monetized. Can't be. 1014 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 4: Can't be transphobic for free? I feel all right, Oh 1015 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 4: I can skip it in for seconds? Okay, well maybe 1016 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 4: I will play it. 1017 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 3: Another person had a gift of Michael from the office 1018 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 3: talking about so hashtag genuine is transphobed because he doesn't 1019 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 3: want to kiss or date a trans woman. That shit 1020 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 3: got forty three retweets, one hundred and fifty nine likes. 1021 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 3: Another person, multiple Hollywood elitist we're calling out for forcing 1022 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 3: themselves on people in. 1023 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 4: The sexual manner. 1024 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: It's interesting now that the same people dragging Harvey Weinstein 1025 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 3: are now mad at Genuine for not kissing someone he 1026 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 3: did not feel comfortable kissing hashtag genuine. 1027 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 4: Is that what people are mad about? Who are these people? 1028 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 4: All people do all day. 1029 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 3: Is tag People respond to stuff if they don't like 1030 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 3: quote tweets. Where are these at now? Why don't y'all 1031 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 3: where's the proof of these? The other side of this 1032 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 3: that are that everyone's. 1033 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 4: So upset about. So this is the video that she posted. 1034 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 7: Have your tea cups ready because this tea is piping hot. 1035 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 9: Hey you guys, it's your girl tea, and I hope 1036 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 9: everybody's doing good today. Make sure you guys have your 1037 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 9: teacups ready, get ready, ready, yes, because. 1038 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 7: This tea is what piping hot. Hey, you guys. 1039 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 9: So I want to come out here and talk about 1040 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 9: the whole Genuine situation. So, if you guys do not know, 1041 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 9: Genuine is currently trending all over social media, specifically on Twitter. 1042 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 4: This has one hundred and twenty five thousand views. Y'all. 1043 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 9: He's basically being drug by some people because he turned 1044 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 9: down a kiss from a transgender woman named India Willo B. 1045 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 9: So what went down is that, basically, for whatever reason, 1046 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 9: Genuine's ass is on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK, 1047 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 9: and so they were sitting there talking about, you know, 1048 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 9: real women and transgender women, and Genuine says that he'll 1049 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 9: date a real woman, but he won't date a transgender 1050 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 9: and this woman starts kind of transd and then she 1051 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 9: starts trying to kiss on Genuine, and you can see 1052 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 9: that he's uncomfortable, he's not down. 1053 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 7: With it, and people actually got mad at this. Go ahead, 1054 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 7: try this clip, and I'm gonna come back with the 1055 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 7: rest of my commentary. 1056 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 8: Would you go out with a transsexual line? 1057 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, we have yet to see any proof 1058 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 3: of anyone like she got tons of pictures and graphics. Right, 1059 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 3: we're watching this video. It's a production we yet to see. Well, 1060 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 3: here's the tweet of him being accused of being transphobed. 1061 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 3: Here's the person that here's the person on TV calling 1062 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 3: him out saying he's transphobic. 1063 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 4: This is literally a non story. It's a non story. 1064 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 3: It's but but people's innate insecurity and transphobia is coming 1065 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 3: out to make them be like I'm going to express 1066 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 3: how strongly I refuse. 1067 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 4: To be around. 1068 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 7: I see. 1069 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 8: For me, this is this is the problem because I 1070 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 8: think I think I don't know whether you would say 1071 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 8: it or that, but I feel that a lot of 1072 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 8: guys would not go out with somebody like me, I'm 1073 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 8: a woman because they want to worry about the connotations 1074 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 8: of it. 1075 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 5: Being confused with. 1076 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: I think it's even more about I think that we 1077 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 2: live in such a binary world where people think there's 1078 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 2: two options of gay and straight. I'm having sex with 1079 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 2: a woman, I'm gay, and I think that's why these 1080 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: conversations are important because it's about fragile masculinity at the 1081 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: end of the day, and men think that it takes 1082 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,280 Speaker 2: something away from them from being with a trans woman, 1083 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 2: and ultimately it's got nothing like it's because they're held 1084 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 2: to this rigid idea of like, I'm heterosexual and if I, oh. 1085 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 5: What does that mean? 1086 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't know who I am anymore in this world 1087 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,439 Speaker 2: if it's not binary. 1088 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 8: But then as soon as they find out WHOA, I'm 1089 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,720 Speaker 8: a woman, right, forget about any teas or anything influent. 1090 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 4: But I'm just a woman. Okay, So on. 1091 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 5: Not you would not if you told me you was. 1092 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 4: No, I'm not telling you. 1093 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 8: I'm trying to woman. 1094 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 1095 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 7: All right, So you guys just saw that clip. 1096 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 9: Now I want to go ahead and show you guys 1097 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 9: some interesting tweets from some of the people who are 1098 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 9: mad at Genuine. So one tweet says, the fact that 1099 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 9: Genuine is explaining that he wouldn't date a trans woman 1100 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 9: while eating a banana and then they're laughing, Then. 1101 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 4: How does that mean they called him transphobic? 1102 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 5: And where we get banana from? 1103 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 3: I didn't see the banana either, but how is that 1104 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 3: them accusing him of being transphobic. That's him making a 1105 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 3: stupid ass joke, but that's not that's not accusing him 1106 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 3: being transphobic, though. 1107 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 7: Next tweet says it's Genuine's choice. 1108 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 3: Choice, of course, but he needs to be doubt for 1109 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 3: transphobia in the exact same way that someone would need 1110 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: to be called out on their racism if they said 1111 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 3: they would never date song because they are black. 1112 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 1113 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 3: Her name is at Katie nine seventy five three one 1114 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 3: two zero zero zero retweets, zero interaction, zero likes the 1115 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 3: fuck and. 1116 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 5: They look like the original average. 1117 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 6: You know they changed no avatar, right, they changed it 1118 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 6: from an egg to a silhouette of of of of 1119 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 6: a circle and a half. 1120 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 3: Moon, no avatar. No one was following this person to 1121 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 3: even be upset. And yet somehow, right, somehow did we 1122 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 3: got here? Mm hmm okay, And yet I want to 1123 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 3: watch people at the person that the person go off 1124 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 3: about how. 1125 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 9: You're not gonna make me be caught out on his transphobia, 1126 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 9: in the exact way that somebody would need to be 1127 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 9: called out on their racism if they said they would 1128 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 9: never date someone because they are black. 1129 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 7: Another person said, so it's okay to say that. 1130 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 9: You won't date a transgender and at Indiana will is 1131 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 9: a victim. But had she said she wouldn't beat a 1132 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,959 Speaker 9: black man, then I'll help. 1133 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, this person is on her side, so 1134 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 3: she's presenting us as look what this person said this 1135 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 3: they didn't say anything about. They didn't say, they didn't 1136 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 3: say genuine was transphobic. You know this person is saying, 1137 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 3: it's oh, you know, maybe they're being sarcastic. 1138 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 4: I take it back. 1139 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 3: This person is saying, if you say you wouldn't date 1140 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 3: a black man, that be considered racist, but saying you 1141 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 3: want to date somebody trans is not considered transphobic. 1142 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 4: And that's a double standard. Okay, gotcha. 1143 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 3: And this course a white dude that because there was 1144 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: a white woman that a white trans woman, right. 1145 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 4: So you got that extra layer of bullshit here. But yeah, 1146 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 4: I you know this person break loose. People have effect. 1147 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 4: Let me google this person and see while we're talking. 1148 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 4: Let's see how many people retweet it or interacted with 1149 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 4: this person. Just search on alex W twenty seven. 1150 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 3: I also know that she cops out the the response 1151 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 3: is uh and the numbers, you know, which if you're 1152 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 3: going to try to make a point of this is 1153 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 3: prevailing opinion. I feel like you have a you have 1154 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 3: no choice but to be like And this is what 1155 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 3: happened with this tweet, you know what I mean. 1156 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 4: And it looks like they must have deleted the tweet. 1157 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,399 Speaker 4: You I have what I said, plus dy Wield that has 1158 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 4: pissed me right off. 1159 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 3: She's an idiot. So apparently he's already opion changed his 1160 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 3: opinion on this ship. So and of course he also 1161 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 3: says being a certain sex is a lifestyle. It's a 1162 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 3: lifestyle choice that you are a woman. What a fucking 1163 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 3: stupid thing to say. There's no difference in someone being 1164 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 3: born black song, being born a woman, a man who 1165 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 3: is in the wrong body. Still the comment I agree 1166 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 3: with that. So I guess I don't know if India 1167 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 3: Willoughby did something. He deleted the tweet or he took 1168 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 3: it down because he got responses to it. 1169 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, nothing on. 1170 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 3: His timeline has retweets or lights. I'm literally looking at 1171 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 3: his timeline right now. He has one hundred and ninety followers. 1172 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 3: He lives in Edinburgh. Okay, I think this is important 1173 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 3: to notice because this is the kind of shit people 1174 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 3: are going. 1175 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 4: Look at these people. What people how'd you even see 1176 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 4: this person? You went looking for this shit? 1177 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 3: Like, there's no way you really just said, oh my god, 1178 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 3: I can't believe all these people accusing Genuine handspobia on 1179 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: my timeline. 1180 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 4: No, you went and found these. Yeah. 1181 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 9: I don't know what world I'm living in, but I 1182 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 9: swear the world has gone crazy. Okay, that all the truth. 1183 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 9: I don't see anything wrong with what Genuine did. He 1184 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 9: was honest with you. 1185 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 4: That was all the proof, those three. So think about 1186 00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 4: the reaction if you. 1187 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 3: I've been seeing what I've been seeing on social media 1188 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 3: and at this I think Charlemagne was even defending it 1189 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 3: on his show to be like, you can't make me kiss? 1190 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 4: What if it was the other way around. It's literally 1191 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 4: not a story. 1192 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 3: It's no one saying that you have to kiss date 1193 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 3: whatever of someone who's trans. 1194 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 4: No one is saying that. 1195 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 3: But we're the point where we're in a society that's 1196 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 3: literally killing trans people. So it's like, why can't we 1197 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 3: see the bigger picture of someone's trying to live and 1198 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 3: we're worried about forcing them to kiss us. We're not 1199 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 3: even at that stage at we're at the is it 1200 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 3: possible for me to make it through a year. 1201 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 4: As a transperson. Stage. That's where we're at, and. 1202 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 3: Motherfucker's acting like, uh but yeah, these comments. You know, 1203 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 3: if Genuine was keep in mind, this person said multiple 1204 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: hollywoods elites were called out with these same people. 1205 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 4: What the Hollywood e least calling Genuine transphobic? 1206 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: Any any proof because you know, if somebody would have 1207 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 3: that would have been trendings, right, Okay, if Genuine was 1208 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 3: really transphobic, he wouldn't have been under a blanket sitting 1209 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 3: that close to another male. So he's calling the trans 1210 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 3: woman a male, y'all being extra as usual. These people 1211 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 3: have more retweets and likes, by the way, than the 1212 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 3: people that she had quoted in this YouTube video. Just 1213 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 3: keep that in mind. Regarding the old trans convo on CBB, 1214 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 3: I sympathize in India's point about how heart it is 1215 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 3: dating as a trans person and the stigma attached, but 1216 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 3: I feel like Genuine was unfairly put on the spot, 1217 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: almost assumed to be transphobic as a black man. People 1218 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 3: asking me to explain why not drading the trans woman 1219 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 3: that's transphobic? 1220 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 4: Trans women are women too. 1221 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 3: Genuine was asked if he would date a woman that 1222 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 3: should apply to a trans women too. They are women period. 1223 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 3: Can't believe you're so closed about it. That person said 1224 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 3: that and literally that. Somehow that tweet isn't quoted. I'm 1225 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 3: assuming it was deleted because my guess is the side 1226 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 3: of the side of harassment is not on that person's side, 1227 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 3: So that tweet was most have been deleted because they 1228 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 3: can't link to it. But yeah, man, I just felt 1229 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 3: like this shit was a fake story and they were 1230 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 3: sad to see people up in arms like that's what 1231 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 3: the fuck was happening, you know. And meanwhile a lot 1232 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 3: of people are being transphobic in their defense of Genuine, 1233 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: which makes me think they were really defending their transphobia. 1234 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 4: So while Genuine's. 1235 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 3: Reaction may not have been about him being transphobic or not, 1236 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 3: I really can't say what, you know, No one can 1237 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 3: tell somebody who they got to kiss or whatever. 1238 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 4: That's not that's that's you know, beyond the point. 1239 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 3: The defense of him was about people's transphobia for the 1240 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 3: most part. You know, I hate how they try to 1241 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 3: play genuine with the transgender. Sorry, but DNA plays a 1242 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 3: major factor in part of everything. He is a man 1243 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 3: who wants a genuine woman tell him. 1244 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean, hell, he may not. 1245 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 3: He may want more natural children with with a woman. 1246 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Stop forcing your T sex on the world. Stop forcing 1247 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 3: your T sex the world. Is that like the gay agenda? 1248 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 4: I don't know is that I don't understand, right, tyrannosaur sex. 1249 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 4: What's going on? What's going on? 1250 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, like I said, you got people like Charloamagne 1251 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 3: going on on his show, like everybody who quote unquote 1252 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 3: defended it, made it a bigger story than it was. 1253 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 4: Everybody elevated it to the next level. 1254 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 3: Trans slash LGBT people have more rights than African Americans 1255 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 3: these days. You can't say nothing about them without being 1256 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 3: dragged Jesus, Like, those. 1257 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 4: Are the defenses. It's ridiculous. 1258 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 5: That's not true. 1259 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. People are fucking It's gone. 1260 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Transgender student won eight hundred thousand dollars from school district 1261 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 3: or wis Kinds of school district is paying a transgender 1262 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 3: student eight hundred thousand dollars as a settlement for a 1263 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 3: discrimination lawsuity foul Ash Whittaker graduated from Trumperr High School 1264 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 3: in June twenty seventeen, but he sued the Kenosha Unified 1265 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 3: School district in July twenty six team for banning him 1266 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 3: from the boy's bathroom with the threat of disciplinary action 1267 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 3: and subjecting on the daily surveillance. What m hm, because 1268 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 3: that's a reasonable way to handle this. Obviously, that's not 1269 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 3: that's not gonna call. And then when they lose the money, 1270 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 3: teachers ain't get raisers, students can't get supplies because you know, 1271 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 3: they don't have that in the budget. Let's lose eight 1272 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars to bigotry. 1273 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 4: They don't have that. 1274 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 3: Where those dollars coming from taxpayer dollars y'all wasted on bigotry. 1275 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 3: I didn't vote for that. 1276 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 5: Come on, I didn't. 1277 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, just let the motherfucker 1278 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 4: us bathroom. Dog, It's just a bathroom. 1279 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Who you're going at a shitting piss Trust it'll be okay. 1280 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 3: The lawsuit ended in the settlement with the Seventh Circuit 1281 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 3: City of A Court of Appeals. I'm sorry rule the 1282 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 3: KSh ud illegally singles Whittaker out for discrimination because he's transgender. 1283 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 3: KUSD appeal the decision in US Supreme Court, but agreed to 1284 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 3: with draws appeal as a condition of eight hundred thousand 1285 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 3: dollars settlement on Monday. The settlement still remains subject to 1286 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 3: court approval, according to the Transgender Law student, and will 1287 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 3: we finalized this week. It's another thing, man, you end 1288 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 3: up becoming a quote unquote activist because you were discriminated against. 1289 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have no shame about taking that money, m hm, 1290 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 3: Like I like, I don't need to go to the 1291 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,919 Speaker 3: Supreme Court. Just give my motherfucking money. Like, I'll take 1292 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 3: that too. So yeah, and keep in mind, nex, that 1293 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 3: case has been going for a few years now, so 1294 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 3: you know what, that's the closest were gonna get the 1295 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 3: good news. 1296 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 4: That is the closest. 1297 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 3: No, but actually I feel compelled to have to cover 1298 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 3: this last story, especially a lot of the uh this 1299 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 3: story and the genuine story. Okay, miss trans America founder 1300 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 3: is first known transgender person killed this year. 1301 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 5: Hmm. 1302 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the reality. People are dying. 1303 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 3: And we're quibbal over what the fuck? Like, we're more 1304 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 3: worried about exposing our own bigotry and our own privilege 1305 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 3: and our own like, you're not gonna make me for 1306 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 3: a problem that's not real. It doesn't exist, you know, 1307 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 3: there's not this overwhelming like oh, you won't have sex 1308 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 3: with kiss date a transperson, you're transphobic. That's also kind 1309 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 3: of a bubble thing that exists on the internet. If 1310 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 3: at all, why are we elevating that type of shit 1311 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 3: to spew hatred a whole lot of shim. He's misgendering 1312 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 3: a whole lot of people that claim to be like, well, 1313 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm not with that kind of stuff. But then they 1314 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 3: couldn't wait to hop on this bandwagon and assume the 1315 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 3: worst about this situation without even looking into it. Well, 1316 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 3: apparently people still dying, and I think these attitudes affect that. 1317 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coincidence. Chrystal Lee still Canousland, 1318 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 3: forty two, was found dead at her home in North Adams, Massachusetts. 1319 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 3: According to medical examiners who were on the scene, she 1320 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 3: stuff the dab wound to her torso and blunt forest drawma. 1321 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 4: To her head. 1322 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 3: Her body was found wrapped in the tarp bedding and 1323 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 3: tied up in a basement. 1324 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. 1325 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 4: Her husband's been charged with her murder. 1326 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 3: The forty seven year old said he snapped and done 1327 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 3: something very bad during a January fifth interview, during what 1328 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 3: she also said he struck his wife with a hammer 1329 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 3: and stature with a knife. 1330 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 4: Wow, keep him mind get married. So if he pulls the. 1331 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 3: Trans panic defense and some shit, that'll that's I don't 1332 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 3: even understand how that would be possible. Her death sense 1333 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 3: shockwaves through the New England LGBTQ community. In addition to 1334 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 3: founding the Mistrans America pageant, she also helped launch the 1335 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 3: Mistrans New England pageant was one of the organizer of 1336 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,760 Speaker 3: the first New England trans Pride March of two thousand 1337 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,520 Speaker 3: and eight. Among those who shared condolences with Lambda legals 1338 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 3: Transgender Rights protect Project director Drew Lovasia, who called still 1339 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 3: canowlessly and a powerful organizer and fierce activists. I'm so 1340 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 3: sorry to those who were very close to her. We 1341 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 3: must all support each other in this time of hor 1342 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 3: and sadness. 1343 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 6: Uh. 1344 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 3: She deserved better. She deserves life and happiness. Justin Adkins 1345 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 3: a friend, are still Conouslan echoed these sentiments. Her thing 1346 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 3: was always that transgender women are beautiful. In need a 1347 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 3: venue for trans women to be seen as beautiful. She 1348 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 3: was memorialized on social media by a number of prominent 1349 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 3: LGBTQ accuracy groups, including glad in the Human Rights Campaign. 1350 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's terrible, and it's and it's something that 1351 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 3: we knew would happened nine. 1352 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 4: Days into the year and it's already happened. 1353 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 3: And but we but but people can't wait to spot 1354 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 3: off about how, uh, you're not gonna make me kissing 1355 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 3: no trans person, as if it's not all kind of 1356 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 3: connected to this general attitude of hatred that people have, 1357 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 3: as if you couldn't keep that ship to yourself, as 1358 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 3: if someone's literally as if that's a problem you're gonna 1359 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 3: run into in your lifetime. Is it that this you know, 1360 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 3: the very small percentage of this population is trands that 1361 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 3: we know of because we ain't dead the census. 1362 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 4: But as if that's a thing. 1363 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 3: You're gonna walk into a bar and be like, well, 1364 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 3: I was forced to kiss a trans person. 1365 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 4: What a Tuesday. 1366 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 5: I have been through a lot of bars. 1367 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 4: So let me tell you on my timeline. Hell no, 1368 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 4: you know. 1369 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 5: That's what they're doing, eating wings just like me. 1370 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 3: Ship was super sad to see, man, super sad to 1371 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 3: see because nobody just keeping out. Nobody was making the 1372 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 3: opposite point. And I think that's fucking important. All right, 1373 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 3: Let's uh move into something else. What else haven't we 1374 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 3: done in a while. Oh, I know we haven't done 1375 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:34,959 Speaker 3: in a while. 1376 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 5: Damn it. 1377 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take out some trash. Mm hmmm. 1378 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 5: Let's we were a little slow. Yes, they have a power. 1379 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 4: Show's trash. It's take it so long, I know, right? 1380 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 6: Uh? They they dove the truck, people showed up and 1381 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 6: their powers out through for a few hours. 1382 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 3: A Fox News reporter quietly left the network over the 1383 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 3: holiday break amid sexual harassment allegations. James Rosen quickly uh 1384 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 3: quietly left the network. He uh was accused of making 1385 01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 3: sexual advances towards three feet. 1386 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 4: Colleagues included two reporters and a producer. 1387 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 3: He been with the network for eighteen years, and no 1388 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 3: statement was made or excuse given for his television absence. 1389 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 4: He simply disappeared. 1390 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 3: So Fox ain't changed, not a motherfucking thing, Like they 1391 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 3: actually helping cover this shit up because they. 1392 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 6: Know they I'd have got a signing moments for lever who. 1393 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,760 Speaker 3: Knows the socially responsible thing is always to come out 1394 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 3: and be like this, why this nigga left and we 1395 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 3: don't tolerate that. 1396 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 4: Shit here, but this quality. 1397 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,560 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you show up to work and 1398 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 6: Bob just ain't there and nobody knows what the fuck 1399 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 6: happened and why he show up to work today. 1400 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 3: Uh so, yep, the network. Uh got another nigga up 1401 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:39,639 Speaker 3: out of there. 1402 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 4: What does that sound? I don't know what that was. 1403 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 3: Anyway, they got another nigga up out of there. Uh, 1404 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 3: Catherine Dounueve, I don't know how you pronounced this. Scens 1405 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 3: French says that the me Too Me Too movement is 1406 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 3: driven by hatred of men. 1407 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 4: One and I don't know if you've been looking at 1408 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 4: the stock price on men. 1409 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 5: But uh, it's weird. 1410 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 4: Been the red. 1411 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 3: We've been doing a lot of shit while in power 1412 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 3: to that what might give people justifiable reason to hate us? 1413 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 3: You know, it's not that necessarily controversial. But more importantly, 1414 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 3: it's not true. It's like saying the Black Lives Matter 1415 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 3: movement is about hating white people or hating the police. 1416 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 4: No, it's not. 1417 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 3: If that was the case, we would have been had 1418 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 3: that movement, you know, like George Edmon wasn't even a 1419 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 3: police officer, you know, Like, nah, it's about or white 1420 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 3: by the way, it's about the fact that men have 1421 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 3: been fucking up and they're representative of the power structure 1422 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,599 Speaker 3: because they're the ones who have been abusing this power 1423 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 3: so far, and it's a system that a lot of 1424 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 3: people are complicit in. But yeah, actually is Catherine than 1425 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 3: you have a joint ninety nine other French women claiming 1426 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 3: that men are being unfairly targeted by sexual misconduct allegations, 1427 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,600 Speaker 3: adding to me to campaign the mouse to puritanism. It 1428 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 3: was fuelled by hatred of men. Keep in mind, where 1429 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 3: are the men that didn't do it? 1430 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 4: Anybody seen them? You know? 1431 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,679 Speaker 3: Where are the men that you know? They just they're 1432 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 3: just on the list because people hate men. Where are 1433 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 3: they at guys? 1434 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 4: They might have seen these guys, these. 1435 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 3: Men, No nobody, No, nope, no any names you want 1436 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 3: to add to the list that oh remember when they 1437 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 3: put him on the list because they just hate him 1438 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:34,599 Speaker 3: and he ain't do shit? 1439 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, all right. 1440 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 3: And the after math of the accusations against Hollywood film 1441 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 3: producer Harvey Weinstein, many women took the social media to 1442 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 3: share their stories of being sexually arrassed and started using 1443 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 3: me too hashtag, as well as ballanced ton pork, I 1444 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 3: don't know what that means or squill on your pig. 1445 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:53,879 Speaker 3: In France, Okay. 1446 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 6: Uh. 1447 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 3: The seventy four year old It's always an old ass woman, 1448 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 3: ain't it, who is one of France's most famous screen stars, 1449 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 3: was among those wanting that legitimate protest against sexual violence 1450 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 3: stemen from Wystein scandal had gone too far. I told 1451 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,839 Speaker 3: y'all they gonna try to end this movement. Of course, 1452 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 3: they didn't say because now women are lying. They just went, 1453 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 3: it's enough. Okay, we had a moment. Y'all got a 1454 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 3: little award show. You guys are now, you guys are 1455 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,799 Speaker 3: just you're moving too many people out, Okay, right. 1456 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 6: Because the Grammys is what at the end of the month, 1457 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 6: and they probably not even gonna. 1458 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:28,839 Speaker 4: Talk about shit. Yeah. 1459 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 3: Look, guys, ten people lost jobs and that's just too much. 1460 01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:34,719 Speaker 5: Uh. 1461 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 3: Yes, she The urge of sending men to the slaughter 1462 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 3: house instead of helping women be more autonomous helps the 1463 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 3: enemies of sexual freedom, the one hundred Performer, scholars and 1464 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 3: others said in the column published Tuesday by Lemon Daily. 1465 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 6: Uh. 1466 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 3: The man's right to pastor women was an essential part 1467 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 3: of sexual freedom, they said in the open letter, describing 1468 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 3: a campaign as puritanism. A man's right to pastor women. 1469 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, this is rape, This is some sexual 1470 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 3: sought up in here. This is had harassment, stalking, stopping 1471 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 3: people's careers. 1472 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 4: Pastor what kind of populate you ask, shit is this? Yeah? 1473 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 6: I was listening to an NPR and they was talking 1474 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 6: to a lawyer who actually helps women who like come 1475 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 6: out against like sexual sexual assaults and things like that. 1476 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 6: And she was saying, it's heartbreaking when I have to 1477 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 6: tell women that they have to make a choice when 1478 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 6: it comes to coming out publicly about things like this. 1479 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 6: She said, I have to tell them, you know that 1480 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 6: you probably would not work in this field again. 1481 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 5: You gotta change fields. You gonna change careers like period, 1482 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 5: you know. 1483 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 6: And you know that's very heartbreaking to tell them, she say, 1484 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 6: But I'm being truthful with them because it's gonna be 1485 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 6: something that's going to stick with them for the rest 1486 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 6: of their lives. And you have some women who just 1487 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,719 Speaker 6: actually just leave on their own accord. 1488 01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but. 1489 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 5: Women want money, you know, like that. 1490 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:04,679 Speaker 4: Uh. 1491 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,799 Speaker 3: The vigilante online justice has punished men in their jobs, 1492 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 3: forced some to resign when all they did was touch 1493 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 3: a knee, try to scale a kiss, talk about intimate 1494 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 3: matters in a work dinner. We defend the right to pester, 1495 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 3: which is vital to sexual freedom. So you know, in 1496 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 3: the name of feminism, we're just gonna excuse people, you know, 1497 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 3: raping and shit. Yeah, no criminal charges has been brought 1498 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 3: against even Harvey Weinstein yet. 1499 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 5: Ain't nobody going to jail? What the fuck are we 1500 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 5: talking about here? 1501 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,639 Speaker 4: Even Harvey Weinstein has had no criminal charges yet? 1502 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 6: Right, Losing the job is the fucking worst thing ever. 1503 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 5: You're gonna find another job. 1504 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 6: You're gonna be alright, You're gonna be okay, Wait long enough, 1505 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 6: you can come back. 1506 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 5: Ax, Mel Gibson, shut y'all. 1507 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,679 Speaker 4: I'm not anyway. Fuck this lady. She's part of the problem. 1508 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 4: To the same way I feel about Matt dam is 1509 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 4: how I feel about people like that. Fuck them part 1510 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 4: of the problem. 1511 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 3: He's the part of the problem, part of solution, by 1512 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 3: the way, Speaking of men being unfairly punished, Tavis Smalley 1513 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 3: bounces back with a new TV dealing a new show. 1514 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 3: Nobody gets canceled, No, they. 1515 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,679 Speaker 5: Do not, so he can harass the women over there too. 1516 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,600 Speaker 4: Nothing happened to him. Everyone was so al it's it 1517 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 4: fair that these people lose. What do they lose? What 1518 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 4: did he lose? 1519 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:26,799 Speaker 5: Nothing? 1520 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 3: He will do five city town hall tour talk about 1521 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 3: relationships in the workplace, plans to write a book and 1522 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 3: an online course called Leading by Listening. 1523 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 4: He literally is making money off of being sexual. Wow. Yeah. 1524 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 3: He announced he has a new show that will focus 1525 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 3: on inspirational stories called The Upside with Tavis Smiley. The 1526 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 3: show will air and the Word Network and also be 1527 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 3: streamed online. 1528 01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,599 Speaker 5: But there's the Word network. 1529 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,680 Speaker 3: I don't know care somebody giving him money to do 1530 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 3: and shit, I guess, and nobody gets canceled. Smiley hopes 1531 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 3: that the digital deal with the media company air Now 1532 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 3: will put him in front of a younger audience, and 1533 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 3: he also has an international distribution deal for The Upside 1534 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 3: so he. 1535 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 5: Can harass those women too. That just working with him. 1536 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,639 Speaker 4: Right, mister, I didn't know. I couldn't do that. 1537 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 3: James Franco got accused of sexual misconduct after his Golden 1538 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 3: Clothes win for the Disaster Artists. Apparently on Twitter, an 1539 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 3: actress came out that used to have been a relationship 1540 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 3: with him and was talking about, you know, the way 1541 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 3: he treated her and stuff and some of the stuff 1542 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,639 Speaker 3: he did the other people that. 1543 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 4: She knows about now a long time ago. 1544 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 3: And I think we covered on the show, and I 1545 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 3: just literally forgot about it because it's been that long 1546 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 3: and people are so weird. 1547 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 4: And people have done so much stuff on me. 1548 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 3: He tried to holler at like a seventeen year old 1549 01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 3: girl on Instagram and got caught. 1550 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that story. 1551 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 3: It's like she was under age and he was making 1552 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 3: jokes about it, but it just went away like it 1553 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 3: was just kind of nothing like because I don't think 1554 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,040 Speaker 3: he actually sexually did anything. 1555 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 4: But still it was kind of like that was a 1556 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 4: weird story. 1557 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 3: And there's plenty of men to have weird stories, like, 1558 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 3: you know, like, wait a minute, how old was that girl? 1559 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 3: And Hollywood, for some reasons, very lax about that. You know, 1560 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 3: Tiger was dating Calli when she was like sixteen, and 1561 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,799 Speaker 3: people just acted like there was nothing wrong with that. Meanwhile, 1562 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 3: Willow Smith took a picture where her friend was on 1563 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,640 Speaker 3: the bed without a shirt on, not even touching her. 1564 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:36,480 Speaker 3: People lost the mind, right, So different standards, I guess. Anyways, 1565 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 3: there was some backlash reaction in the reactions to the 1566 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 3: Evening of me Too and stuff and some One woman 1567 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 3: named Violet Paley tweeted out cute hashtag times up peeing 1568 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 3: James Franco. Remember the time you push my head down 1569 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 3: in a car towards or exposed penis, And that other 1570 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 3: time you told my friend to come to your hotel 1571 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,639 Speaker 3: when she was seventeen after you already had been caught 1572 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 3: doing that to a different seventeen year old. 1573 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 5: Oh mm hmm. 1574 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 3: That's ah, it's pretty big, you know. He did respond 1575 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 3: by saying that he didn't recall it or it was 1576 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 3: different or something than what she said. 1577 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 4: It didn't go the way she said it went. Uh. 1578 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,599 Speaker 3: She also had a friend at chimed in that was like, yeah, 1579 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 3: I remember that too, he did something similar to someone else. 1580 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 4: Matter fact, I'm looking up. 1581 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 3: That article too because I got both of them. But yeah, 1582 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 3: he he basically I think he went on what show 1583 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 3: was it? 1584 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 4: The Lake Show? 1585 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 3: That's what he did one of the Late Show with 1586 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,680 Speaker 3: Stephen Colbert, and he was asked about it, and he 1587 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 3: basically was like, nah, that's not what happened. But he 1588 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 3: did apologize, but clearly he's not gonna say he did 1589 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 3: these things. 1590 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Late Show. 1591 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,360 Speaker 3: Franco told Colbert he was aware of the two, but 1592 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,439 Speaker 3: the accusations were not accurate. I have no idea what 1593 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 3: I did to Ali Sheedy. I directed her in a 1594 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 3: play off Broadway. I had nothing but a great time 1595 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 3: with her, total respect for her. Had no idea why 1596 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 3: she was upset. He said, the others look in my life. 1597 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 3: Look in the others, look. 1598 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:18,439 Speaker 4: In my life. 1599 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 3: I pride myself on take responsibility. So the others, the 1600 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 3: other women that are accusing him, because it's not just 1601 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:27,959 Speaker 3: one woman. I take responsibilities for things that I've done. 1602 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 3: I have to do that to maintain my well being. 1603 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,080 Speaker 3: I do it whenever I know that there's something that's 1604 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 3: wrong that needs to be changed. The things that I've 1605 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 3: heard that we're on Twitter are not accurate. But I 1606 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 3: completely support people coming out and being able to have 1607 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 3: a voice because they didn't have a voice for so long. 1608 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to shut them down in any way. 1609 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,600 Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing and I support it. 1610 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 3: M Colbert said, in your case, you say this was 1611 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,800 Speaker 3: not an accurate thing for me, Do you have any 1612 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 3: idea of what the answer might be to come to 1613 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 3: some sense of what the truth is so that can 1614 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 3: be some kind of reconciliation between the two people who 1615 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 3: clearly have different view of things. After starting dropping a 1616 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 3: few times. Franco responded, if there's restitution to be made, 1617 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 3: I will make it. If I've done something wrong, I 1618 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 3: will fix it. On Tuesday, the New York Times side 1619 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 3: to cancel uh Time talk event with Franco. The Time 1620 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,080 Speaker 3: said and the statement the event was intended to a 1621 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 3: discussion of the film, but giving a controversy surrounding allegations 1622 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 3: they're no longer. 1623 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,560 Speaker 5: Comfortable with that when people come in protesting. 1624 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I don't know what you what you do? 1625 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 4: Multiple people accusing. 1626 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 3: You, and uh, you know, Twitter is kind of now 1627 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 3: where things come out. 1628 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 6: This is. 1629 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 4: And if you don't have a response, basically that is, 1630 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 4: I didn't do that. Shit ain't really shit. 1631 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna be able to say, that's gonna let it be, 1632 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 3: you know, let people gonna let slide. So and then 1633 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 3: according to this like they used to date, so it's 1634 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 3: even more of a thing, you know, And some people 1635 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 3: were responding saying, like, you know, I dated the person 1636 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 3: that sexually assaulted me at the time and all this 1637 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,560 Speaker 3: other stuff too, because it gets deep and complicated. 1638 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 4: It's not like a movie. 1639 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 3: What's someone jumps out of a bush, you know, you know, 1640 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 3: and his response is simply it's not accurate, which could 1641 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,599 Speaker 3: mean a lot of shit honestly. 1642 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 1643 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so. 1644 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,360 Speaker 3: We'll see if more shit comes out, because I think 1645 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 3: you'll see more if this is you know, like I said, 1646 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 3: with all this stuff, when you get accused, when other 1647 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 3: women start coming out, that's when you have that. 1648 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, this is your thing. Yeah. 1649 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 3: Another woman said, Hey, James Franco, the nice times up 1650 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 3: pit of the Gold and Glows. Remember a few weeks 1651 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,839 Speaker 3: ago you told me that the full nudity you had 1652 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 3: me doing two of your movies for one hundred dollars 1653 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,519 Speaker 3: a day wasn't exploitive because I signed a contract to 1654 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 3: do it. 1655 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 4: Times up on that. 1656 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 3: Another said, whatever, I still remember James Franco trying to 1657 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 3: pick up a teenager on Instagram. 1658 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that actually really did happen. 1659 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 3: Someone said, uh oh, yeah, they just talked about the 1660 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 3: original seventeen year old thing. Another woman, Ali Sheedy said, James, 1661 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 3: that's the woman that was in the relationship with him. 1662 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:26,120 Speaker 3: James Franco just won. Please never ever ask me why 1663 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,439 Speaker 3: I left film slash TV business. Okay wait by Christian 1664 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 3: Slater and James Franco at the Table on bload and globes. 1665 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,160 Speaker 3: Why is a man hosting? Why is James Franco alowed 1666 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 3: in said too much? Knight love you? So she was 1667 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 3: sub kind of subtweeting him the whole night. 1668 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 4: So and then that shit came all the way out. 1669 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,880 Speaker 3: So there you go. That's what I want to know. 1670 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,120 Speaker 3: Like these actors be like, I'm still going to dose 1671 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 3: award shows. I'm still gonna go on this press towards shit. 1672 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 3: If you know you got some shit out here like this, 1673 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,559 Speaker 3: somebody's gonna have to start getting in front of it. 1674 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 3: Or like I said, people just gonna wear themselves out 1675 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 3: and be like, oh, we're tired of hearing about this, 1676 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 3: so we're just it's back to background noise. 1677 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 4: And that's gonna be interesting what happens with. 1678 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,800 Speaker 3: Someone people really like, like James Franco, people don't really 1679 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 3: know or like James or Winstein. 1680 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 4: So, man, these people are. 1681 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 5: Old at the time, is hell right. 1682 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,560 Speaker 3: But I'm noticing like certain people they're allowed to just 1683 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 3: keep kicking. If they're young, they can produce and they 1684 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 3: can still do their thing. People just gonna let m 1685 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 3: Casey Affleck gonna still get another movie. I don't expect 1686 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 3: anything that really happen to these people. It'll just be 1687 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 3: an open, openly out now that they're oh, you know, 1688 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,600 Speaker 3: something's up with that dude. Broadway legend Ben Vereen is 1689 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,480 Speaker 3: accused of sexually harassing hair actress actresses. 1690 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,080 Speaker 5: Bro I have no idea who this person is. 1691 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 3: Oh, you know him if you see him. He's a 1692 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 3: black man famous. I mean, yeah, he's famous. He's been 1693 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 3: around for a while. I'll put his picture in the 1694 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 3: chat so you can see it and then you can 1695 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 3: uh judge about his name. Yeah, yeah, I know that's 1696 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 3: your gift. 1697 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,080 Speaker 5: I know I know faces, but don't his name. Yes, 1698 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,320 Speaker 5: I know that I know him. 1699 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 3: Right, So that's Ben Vereen And now the me too 1700 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 3: is making his way through Broadway. You know, Uh, it's 1701 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 3: funny because it's like me too moves in waves of industry. 1702 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,679 Speaker 3: It was such a weird wave wave for this thing 1703 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 3: to kind of spread. But it's basically what's been happening 1704 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 3: is you know it's been Oh it's you know, it's this, 1705 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 3: it's video games tech? 1706 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 4: Is that right? Anyway? 1707 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 3: He has apologized following accusations of inappropriate sexual misconduct with 1708 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 3: cast members in the twenty fifteen Community Theater production other 1709 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 3: musical Hair. The allegations, first reported early Friday by blog 1710 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 3: on Stage and the New York Daily News, were leveled 1711 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 3: by two young actresses who started in the show, which 1712 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 3: was performed by volunteer cast at the Venice Theater in Florida. Yeah, 1713 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 3: he and the thing is it was a volunteer cast. 1714 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 3: But he was like, this is gonna get on Broadway. 1715 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get y'all, you know, promises of fame and 1716 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,559 Speaker 3: fortune for all these people that were working for free. 1717 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 4: Essentially. 1718 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, he was using this as his personal like how 1719 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 3: am I gonna fuck these young girls. One actress, Caitlyn 1720 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,880 Speaker 3: Turpstra said, Veren lord Or to a hot tub and 1721 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 3: it's Florida, ran on home and touched her inappropriately. Accused 1722 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 3: of him of misconduct in the theater as well, including 1723 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 3: getting naked with the cast. Much of the unwanted interactions 1724 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 3: were done under guys were improving the actresses. Caraft kind 1725 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 3: of liked the causer approach. In the statement on Friday, 1726 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 3: he said, I liked apologize directly to the female cast 1727 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 3: members of the musical Hair from my inappropriate conduct when 1728 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,800 Speaker 3: I directed the production in twenty fifteen while it was 1729 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 3: my attention to create an environment that replicated the themes 1730 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 3: of the musical during the rehearsal process. I have since 1731 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,719 Speaker 3: come to understand that it is my conduct, not my intentions, 1732 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 3: that are relevant here. Look, I was just grabbing your 1733 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 3: puzzy to try to help you act, okay. Turpstra described 1734 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 3: a new scene in which the cast forced to rehearse 1735 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 3: in pairs and comment on each other's bodies, and said 1736 01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 3: Veren then got naked, even though he. 1737 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 4: Wasn't in the show. She said he told her she 1738 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 4: needed to lose weight. 1739 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,000 Speaker 3: The other woman, identified by the Daily News only by 1740 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,760 Speaker 3: her first name, Kim, told the paper similar stories and 1741 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 3: also alleged ing forced her to perform oral sex on 1742 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 3: him in the hot tub. 1743 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 4: I okay, so I have a slight complaint. 1744 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't understand why these articles always put shit like 1745 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 3: that after the stuff that people won't think it's that bad, 1746 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 3: because I know people that will be like, well, look, 1747 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 3: it's a play. You have to be comforted with your body. 1748 01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 3: I've been in place, I've gotten naked before. That's not 1749 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 3: that unusual. Okay, maybe lead they weight out of it, 1750 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 3: but sometimes you have to lose weight for a row. Blah, 1751 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 3: blah blah, like you can see all that shit, then 1752 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 3: halfway through the article like, oh, he made a woman 1753 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 3: suck his dick. This is after we read a fucking hey, 1754 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 3: my bad if I didn't. I was just trying to 1755 01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 3: help people act by making them suck your dick. 1756 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 5: Ride. It's not a porn. 1757 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 4: What the fuck? Why is that halfway through the article? 1758 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 3: Sorry, is a small nippick with goddamn lead with the 1759 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 3: fucking the shit that matters? 1760 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 4: You know that. 1761 01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 3: I mean the other stuff is creepy too, but goddamn 1762 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,519 Speaker 3: an cry. 1763 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,840 Speaker 5: They do that because they know most people not gonna 1764 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 5: read that far. 1765 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 3: Got Maybe this is why all the people I know, like, 1766 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 3: you know, so many people are like, look, man, if 1767 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 3: a man just comes on to a woman, I don't 1768 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 3: see a problem with it. Maybe they just read the 1769 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,040 Speaker 3: first two paragraphs or all the articles and the crimes 1770 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:16,719 Speaker 3: is in the bottle. 1771 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 5: Uh face. 1772 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,639 Speaker 3: Churcher also recalled her instanting in September twenty fifteen, where 1773 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 3: Verene invited her to a bar then brought her back 1774 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,640 Speaker 3: to his house to go in the hot tub. But 1775 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,320 Speaker 3: she said Veren made her feel like situation was only 1776 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 3: sexual because she was making it, So why you being 1777 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 3: up tight, baby. I'm just saying, get in the hot 1778 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:35,679 Speaker 3: tub with me. Ain't nothing sexual. 1779 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 4: We can't hang out, we can't be friends. 1780 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 3: Churchill said she initially refused to go in explain she 1781 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,719 Speaker 3: didn't have a swimsuit with her, and then she said 1782 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,759 Speaker 3: he immediately cut me off and said, nudity isn't inherently sexual, 1783 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,680 Speaker 3: and that's the point of hair. As he was chastising me, 1784 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 3: he was alluding to the fact that I wasn't mature 1785 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,479 Speaker 3: enough to be in the show. 1786 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:54,920 Speaker 4: She was twenty two at the time. 1787 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 3: Turchtrall said she eventually got in the hot tub, figuring 1788 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,839 Speaker 3: out because Mariene's son was also in the house. 1789 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 4: It was more of a family outing than anything in appropriate. 1790 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,439 Speaker 3: Inside the hot tub, Verene allegedly asked her a slower 1791 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 3: question about a personal life emotional events like her parents divorced. 1792 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,120 Speaker 3: I started to cry a little bit. He put me 1793 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,639 Speaker 3: on his lap. Then I felt his erection. He said, 1794 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 3: do you feel that? 1795 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 4: She said. 1796 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 3: She moved off of him, but he didn't change the subject, 1797 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,600 Speaker 3: asking her if she thought he wanted to sleep with 1798 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,719 Speaker 3: her and called it unfortunate when she said yes, Okay, 1799 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 3: I can't believe you would think just because I'll let 1800 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 3: you sit on my lap and feel my dick on 1801 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 3: you and ask you could you feel it, that I. 1802 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,639 Speaker 4: Was somehow sexually aroused. 1803 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Wow, bitch, can't believe I let you in my hot 1804 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 3: tub naked like this. The accusation against Verene come as 1805 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,679 Speaker 3: part of a national recording Da Da Da dah Urchter 1806 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,719 Speaker 3: brought up the Harvey Wystein accusations and the me Too movement, 1807 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 3: encouraging her to come out. 1808 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 1809 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 3: Weinstein had more effect than Cosby of people coming out, 1810 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 3: not really sure why. 1811 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 4: Maybe because I don't know, because he was a dick. 1812 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 3: Because Kazi had another like there was a burst of 1813 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,040 Speaker 3: people coming out like hey, I've been a rass, but 1814 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 3: it was something about Weinstein. Oh I know, I I 1815 01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 3: can't believe, I said, I don't know why because of 1816 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,559 Speaker 3: the powerful white actresses being the victims instead of instead 1817 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 3: of not powerful still kind of mixed race or white 1818 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,839 Speaker 3: or whatever actresses being victims. 1819 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:23,639 Speaker 4: Correct. All right, Let's go to the next section real quick, 1820 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,000 Speaker 4: and then we'll wrap up. We'll do a couple more stories. 1821 01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 3: Give me one second, guys will be right back on 1822 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:34,679 Speaker 3: the air with more of whatever this is more trash 1823 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 3: after these messages, we'll be trash back. 1824 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 4: Dah uh, all right, go live. 1825 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:50,759 Speaker 3: Yes, invite to attendees, get caring on screen. 1826 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 4: Boom that picture with you. 1827 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,920 Speaker 3: Nothing wrong me, Bay was just wanting to take a little, 1828 01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,400 Speaker 3: nice little picture for the for. 1829 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,240 Speaker 4: I mean for her magazine coming. I just wanted to help. 1830 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,640 Speaker 3: Two women are fouled criminal complaints against Russell Simmons to 1831 01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 3: According to TIMS, two women portly fouled police reports late 1832 01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 3: last month claiming Simmons raped them in nineteen eighty three 1833 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 3: and nineteen ninety one, respectively. One of the alleged victims 1834 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,880 Speaker 3: has been identified as Sherry Haines. She told police to 1835 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 3: attack what he attacked her eighty three in his office, 1836 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:24,759 Speaker 3: having so fast. 1837 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 4: Next thing you know, my pants were down. 1838 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 3: He was having his way, hah said the alleged attack, 1839 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,040 Speaker 3: where she claimed she was pinning down and restrained, and 1840 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,760 Speaker 3: then when he finished, I ran out of there and 1841 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 3: I left and I was crying. I stood in the 1842 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 3: elevator for what felt like forever, she continued, adding she 1843 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,479 Speaker 3: couldn't believe this man just violated me like I was nothing. 1844 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,719 Speaker 3: The other victim, however, as requested anonymity. According to publication. 1845 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,599 Speaker 3: The woman claimed Simmons raped her his Manhattan home, and 1846 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 3: after a date in nineteen ninety one, she claimed the 1847 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 3: music icon forced himself on her after she declined the 1848 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 3: sexual advances. The new allegations of rape come after nearly 1849 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 3: thirteen women have accused him of sexual min'sconduct and rape. However, 1850 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 3: the mogul has previously denied all actations and even took 1851 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:02,879 Speaker 3: a polygraph test to disprove the claims. 1852 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,719 Speaker 4: Simmons is currently okay. 1853 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 3: Simmons is currently under investigation, but he maintains he's never 1854 01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 3: had sexual encounter with that was non consentual, unlawed for whatever. 1855 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1856 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 3: Dog one out of thirteen, Mike one up come on 1857 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:21,679 Speaker 3: thirteen thirteen is a lot bruh. 1858 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,799 Speaker 4: Just saying that's a whole lot. Hate to be that guy, uh. 1859 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:25,799 Speaker 4: Tessa Thompson. 1860 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,639 Speaker 3: Tessa Thompson says Lina Dunham wasn't involved in the Times 1861 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 3: Up initiative, but yet they had a call where they 1862 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,880 Speaker 3: were like, look we want people to be in this 1863 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 3: picture that supported me too movement, blah blah. Well guess 1864 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 3: who showed up. Lina Dunham showed up to be in 1865 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 3: that picture. So Tessa Thompson. They had a picture, I think, 1866 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 3: on the Instagram of that gathering of women and somebody asked, Hey, 1867 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 3: why she in this fucking picture right, and Tessa responded, 1868 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 3: Lina was anywhere president in our group during the countless 1869 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 3: I was a work for the last two months. We 1870 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,000 Speaker 3: hosted an open house for actresses for Red carb Messaging, 1871 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,120 Speaker 3: and Lina's president was a surprise to us. 1872 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:10,720 Speaker 4: All it is this is. 1873 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 3: The time of reckoning it for many re education. So 1874 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,160 Speaker 3: many women also have real work to do. I'm afraid 1875 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,480 Speaker 3: it's too nuanced a conversation to have on this platform, 1876 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,640 Speaker 3: but I hear you and know that your thoughts and 1877 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:21,840 Speaker 3: words are not lost on me. 1878 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 4: It's been discussed. 1879 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 6: M H. 1880 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 5: Know what she was doing defending rapists m H. 1881 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:34,360 Speaker 3: So since then, unfortunately, because I think she was clear enough. 1882 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 3: But Tessa has clarified her Lena Dunham Time's Up comment. 1883 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 4: And what some people kind of deemed as an apology. 1884 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,360 Speaker 3: But she said it's not. It's not an apology, she 1885 01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,240 Speaker 3: says a response. I made the comments on Instagram post 1886 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,799 Speaker 3: became five or four piece that I believe was designed 1887 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,879 Speaker 3: to create conflict where there is at any It's perhaps more. 1888 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 4: Complex than that. 1889 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,759 Speaker 3: But I in no way want to diminish Lena Dunham 1890 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,680 Speaker 3: and her work, her voice, and her importance we have. 1891 01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 4: She knows my heart. I feel the responsibility to. 1892 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:12,519 Speaker 3: Women that have sometimes felt ignored, dismissed and underrepresented. Well, 1893 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,400 Speaker 3: let me make this bigger. I haint when Twitter does 1894 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 3: is cut off the picture. 1895 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,000 Speaker 4: All right, they are my beacons. 1896 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,720 Speaker 3: I regret that my words were misinterpreted to distract from 1897 01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 3: the most important thing, the tires up campaigns for everyone 1898 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 3: in our capacities, contributions big and small. 1899 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:35,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't belong to anyone, it is for us. All. 1900 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,200 Speaker 3: The beauty of this huge collaboration has been a group 1901 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:42,080 Speaker 3: of countless committed people who have come together for a 1902 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,360 Speaker 3: share a purpose to create change, and it is such 1903 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,400 Speaker 3: a powerful thing. I stay humbled with everyone involved, linked, 1904 01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:48,520 Speaker 3: not ranked. 1905 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 5: But she didn't put no work in. But I ask 1906 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,639 Speaker 5: showed up for that goddamn picture the fuck out of here. 1907 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,160 Speaker 4: I think she said it the first she said it. 1908 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,080 Speaker 6: Right, the first thing right, And they was mad that 1909 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,400 Speaker 6: she showed her ass up there and she didn't they 1910 01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 6: probably she probably knowed all the emails and phone calls 1911 01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,280 Speaker 6: and shit, I'm pretty sure they probably did, you know, 1912 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 6: mass shit for everybody and you didn't do anything, and 1913 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,320 Speaker 6: then you show up and everybody was like, what the 1914 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,839 Speaker 6: fuck you come from? 1915 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:19,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, I'm pretty sure they asked her to do that. 1916 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. 1917 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure that the other women, because see white women 1918 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 3: in general will always pick the path of least resistance 1919 01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,120 Speaker 3: with that kind of shit. And it's like, well, we 1920 01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 3: don't want to ostracize anyone. Lena Dunnell's ass is not 1921 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,680 Speaker 3: a friend, and until she does better, you can't be 1922 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,320 Speaker 3: out here giving her credit for shit she's not doing right. 1923 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,720 Speaker 4: Tessa did clarify a little bit more on Twitter, this. 1924 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,920 Speaker 3: Was not meant as an apology as much as an 1925 01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 3: attempt to recenter the conversation around the work. The truth 1926 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,679 Speaker 3: for mains, many women, particularly women of color, don't feel 1927 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 3: safe and seen to those women like Auroral poring up Prono, 1928 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,839 Speaker 3: who is the woman that accused Lenda Donald's friend of rape, 1929 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:00,559 Speaker 3: I see you. 1930 01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,200 Speaker 4: I'm with you. This must be Claire. 1931 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:04,720 Speaker 3: So because a lot of people were like, oh, I 1932 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 3: can't believe you had to apologize, and that is how 1933 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,280 Speaker 3: it felt to me. I'm not saying it wasn't apology 1934 01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 3: because she never said she was sorry or whatever. But 1935 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 3: it felt like in my mind like not knowing what 1936 01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,120 Speaker 3: happened behind the scenes. It felt like someone called her 1937 01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,400 Speaker 3: to the carpet like, hey, you need to take this back. 1938 01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,760 Speaker 3: Lena's a friend and we don't need you having this 1939 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 3: caddy in fighting out d da da as opposed to 1940 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 3: being like, nah, that's that's a good point. We all 1941 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 3: sat there and talked, because she said they had to 1942 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:29,799 Speaker 3: talk about it before, which many these. 1943 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,080 Speaker 6: Other white women talked to her about her showing up 1944 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 6: and they were mad. Someone were upset. They did not 1945 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 6: agree that she shouldn't have been there. Because when somebody 1946 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 6: but this was somebody asked why is she here? Somebody 1947 01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 6: had to answer that, mm, why do you ask these 1948 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,720 Speaker 6: white women why this bitch ain't he why she show up? 1949 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,640 Speaker 6: You ain't ask none of them where their statements. 1950 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:53,600 Speaker 3: At Dunham also put a response out by way of 1951 01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:56,679 Speaker 3: any wire. It reads, I was honored to be invited 1952 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 3: to the meeting by a close friend and to observe 1953 01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,559 Speaker 3: the work that these amazing women have been doing the 1954 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,280 Speaker 3: past few much for highly personal reasons, I've been unable 1955 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,519 Speaker 3: to join previous efforts, but being asked to be a 1956 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:10,320 Speaker 3: part of this celebratory moment was very beautiful. I worked 1957 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,439 Speaker 3: with tests and respect the artistry and admire her consistent candor, 1958 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:15,000 Speaker 3: and it's. 1959 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,240 Speaker 5: Also one of those things too. 1960 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,839 Speaker 6: Her quote unquote apology was, Hey, we got to work together, 1961 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,720 Speaker 6: so I'm gonna pretty cool. But I did say what 1962 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,719 Speaker 6: I said, and I'm not taking back what I said. 1963 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:31,160 Speaker 6: You know, and Nina Dunham has done a lot of shit. 1964 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 5: This almost anti everything that they're representing. 1965 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,200 Speaker 4: She literally went, but not my friend, me too, but 1966 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,880 Speaker 4: not this woman. Not my friend. 1967 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 3: Then, by the way, never apologized to the woman when 1968 01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 3: it came out that they lied her that. I don't 1969 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,040 Speaker 3: know if we updated this already, but the man lied 1970 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 3: and his lawyer lied and said that she just wanted 1971 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,960 Speaker 3: money from them. Well, she never asked for any money, 1972 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,920 Speaker 3: So where's where's the fucking Oh we have inside downs. 1973 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,920 Speaker 3: We know this one's fake, but the rest of these 1974 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,960 Speaker 3: women might be telling true. I stay with them, just 1975 01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,639 Speaker 3: not this woman accusing my friend. Because he's my friend. 1976 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:11,640 Speaker 3: Everyone thinks they friend didn't do it. 1977 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,479 Speaker 5: Everybody thinks that right, That's. 1978 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,000 Speaker 3: Why we're all complicit, because everybody think their friend is 1979 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 3: the one that's it's always your friend. 1980 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 4: The one you know. All right, I'm move on from this. 1981 01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,120 Speaker 3: Uh matter of fact, we actually need to wrap up. 1982 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 3: Let's do soord ratching this and get out of here, 1983 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 3: all right. A terrible fucking world we live, you. 1984 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:38,960 Speaker 5: Know I have? 1985 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,000 Speaker 4: This is it's terrible. I'm sorry, guys. 1986 01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 3: I apologize, but not sincerely to anyone I may have 1987 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 3: gotten offended. 1988 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 4: I apologize. 1989 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,479 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, I see what I said. 1990 01:37:52,800 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 3: Also a show programming note, we're doing this too much 1991 01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:17,480 Speaker 3: because this is us as back Friday at four pm. 1992 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,519 Speaker 4: So if you're I'll be on the lookout for that. 1993 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:21,880 Speaker 4: Freemium is back, y'all. 1994 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,360 Speaker 3: Antique weapons collector who stabbed dad of two with a 1995 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,639 Speaker 3: sword in front of his terrified young children as jailed. 1996 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,880 Speaker 3: Oh guess the race white at antie's collector who stabed 1997 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:34,880 Speaker 3: a dad of two with a sword in front of his. 1998 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,719 Speaker 4: Young children that's been jailed for seven years. 1999 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 3: Barry Lawrence, forty three, flew into a rage after the 2000 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 3: driver named only as mister Smith in local reports, beat 2001 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 3: this horn at him because he cut him aroundabout the 2002 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,200 Speaker 3: court heard. Lawrence slammed on his brakes and got out 2003 01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:53,360 Speaker 3: of his transit van before aggressively shouting through the victim's 2004 01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,960 Speaker 3: open window. Dad of two, mister Smith told Lawrence to 2005 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 3: move his vehicle before being pushed as he tried to 2006 01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,680 Speaker 3: leave the scene, but the defendant told, you aren't going 2007 01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,519 Speaker 3: anywhere until I see what you what? I till you 2008 01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,439 Speaker 3: see what I got, before pulling out an antique sword 2009 01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,000 Speaker 3: from his vand and stabbing the driver twice. 2010 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 4: In the body. Oh so did he sit around waiting 2011 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,200 Speaker 4: or what? Wait till you see what I got? 2012 01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,759 Speaker 3: I guess all right, I mean I don't have anything 2013 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:18,360 Speaker 3: else to do. 2014 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:24,920 Speaker 4: I guess. I mean what choice? Do I have a sword? 2015 01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,320 Speaker 4: That's what you got? Well good for you, buddy, don't 2016 01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 4: then mm hmmm. That's how it happened. Y'all. 2017 01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,680 Speaker 3: His kids was like daddy running. We's kids and we're 2018 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,960 Speaker 3: smarter than that. Don't see what he got? 2019 01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? And got sliced up. 2020 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:43,160 Speaker 4: He got death, that's what he got. Why did you 2021 01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:44,160 Speaker 4: see my sword? 2022 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:45,479 Speaker 5: All of it? 2023 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:51,800 Speaker 4: Uh so? Yeah. 2024 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 3: As mister Smith tried to grab the weapon, he suffered 2025 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 3: long term injuries to his hands before members of the 2026 01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:03,519 Speaker 3: public bravely intervened. Lawrence Coventry was jailed after he pleaded 2027 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 3: guilty to wounding with intent to cause grievously grievous body harm. 2028 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 4: Grievous body harm apparently, Oh. 2029 01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:12,920 Speaker 5: That's how, that's how you phrased killa. 2030 01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 3: This is a very grave offense. It was something that 2031 01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:16,879 Speaker 3: didn't just happen upostedly. 2032 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 4: It was over sustained period. 2033 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,920 Speaker 3: It's a typical situation that arises when two motorists fall 2034 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 3: out of driving. But what you did then was to 2035 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,759 Speaker 3: block his path. He was there, He was there together 2036 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,519 Speaker 3: with his partner and two infant children. You completely lost 2037 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,719 Speaker 3: your temper and it's culminated in you making a decision 2038 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 3: to get a sword from your vehicle. 2039 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 4: The court heard that attack took place in. 2040 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 3: Coventry on August sixth, in front of Missus Smith's terrified 2041 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:38,440 Speaker 3: partner to young children. 2042 01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,040 Speaker 4: Age six and three. 2043 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:43,160 Speaker 3: Man when the stabbing, first hurting first happened, I was 2044 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 3: aware that I've been injured, said read after victim impact 2045 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,799 Speaker 3: statement on court. I could feel the blood, nut not 2046 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,439 Speaker 3: not see the actual wound. I don't know if that's 2047 01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 3: the type of maybe he's having some of this nutting 2048 01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 3: seed care and likes that nothing seed. 2049 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:05,040 Speaker 4: I had something earlier. I had some of my own 2050 01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 4: so we started. 2051 01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,599 Speaker 5: I did not take none of your nuting see with 2052 01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:09,599 Speaker 5: me to work this morning. 2053 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:10,679 Speaker 4: It's very tasty. 2054 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,680 Speaker 3: Listen, guys, is good. You guys should try some of 2055 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,080 Speaker 3: my nutting seed. All right, guys, Laura bar nutting seed 2056 01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 3: crunching bar doc chocolate on me, you know the kind 2057 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:22,800 Speaker 3: that I like. 2058 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:24,240 Speaker 5: I have to get some of that nothing. 2059 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,000 Speaker 4: See, I'm so full of nothing seed right now. 2060 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 3: Can got a gut full of seed, A good full 2061 01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:34,439 Speaker 3: of it, chocolate seed, all shress with Oh, I'm definitely 2062 01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:35,760 Speaker 3: gonna give you something after the show. 2063 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,679 Speaker 4: I'm gonna feel you up with some nothing. 2064 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:41,200 Speaker 5: ILL love it. 2065 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:48,280 Speaker 4: You get to your hearts content. I lot that. 2066 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:50,920 Speaker 5: They roll with you. 2067 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, you know it. Guys, just don't get sorts. 2068 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 3: All right, I gotta get out of here. I have 2069 01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 3: to deliver some nothing seed. I just don't have time 2070 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 3: in the show. Guys until next time. I love you, 2071 01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:06,600 Speaker 3: I love you. 2072 01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:07,360 Speaker 5: Toode wow