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Speaker 1: Huttle Podcast. John Smoke with you, and today we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to Giants wide receiver Colin Johnson. Colin, nice to

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Speaker 1: meet you, man. How are you nice to meet you

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Speaker 1: as well? I'm good, I'm blessed, I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to be here and just stacking good days in

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Speaker 1: camp and trying to get better every day. So well,

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Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, it looks like you're stacking

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Speaker 1: good days in camp. How would you evaluate how you've

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Speaker 1: done the last couple of weeks? Um, I just feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm better today than yesterday. And Coach Day Bowl

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Speaker 1: he always talks about being process oriented and you know,

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Speaker 1: not so much result oriented. So I've been focusing on

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Speaker 1: the process each and every day, literally trying to be

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Speaker 1: better today than I am yesterday. And that's kind of

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Speaker 1: where my mindsets at. And I definitely feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: doing that. So what's your process, like, how do you

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Speaker 1: try to go about trying to get better. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big routine guy, So I try to wake up at

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Speaker 1: the same time every day, wake up at five thirty

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Speaker 1: a m. Every day. I do the same stretching routine,

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Speaker 1: getting the hot tub, cold tub, you name it. So

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Speaker 1: I do a big, big routine guy, And I feel

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Speaker 1: like that helps get my mind right. And then when

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Speaker 1: in the right spot gives me the best chance to

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Speaker 1: make plays and do my job for the team. Now

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Speaker 1: you're a young player heading into this season, what were

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Speaker 1: some of the things you had on your checklist? Where

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Speaker 1: all right, I really want to focus and get better

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Speaker 1: at A, B and C. What was your focus is

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Speaker 1: off in terms of your improvement, I would say, I

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Speaker 1: want to be in tremendous shape. So I got on

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Speaker 1: the track and I ran a lot because the receiver

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Speaker 1: at this league, at this level, you have to run

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Speaker 1: all day long. So UM, definitely that the top of

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Speaker 1: my list. And UM. Secondly, I would say playing physical

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Speaker 1: and playing big. At the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: went and out. I just resort to my default in

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Speaker 1: my game and that's just being physical. So whenever I

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Speaker 1: have any question, what release should I use? How should

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Speaker 1: simplified the game like that. So getting in shape playing

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Speaker 1: physicals number two and number three is also playing physical.

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Speaker 1: That's it. So it's just a UM. That's a point

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Speaker 1: fans that don't know columns six sex. He's a bigger

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. So how for someone that relies on their physicality,

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Speaker 1: their strengthen, their size, how can you use that to

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. So you know when UM, everyone has strengths.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's some little slot guys who are quick

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Speaker 1: For me, it's just about like being smart enough to

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Speaker 1: understanding concepts and timing and spacing UM and not just

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Speaker 1: being open, but being open on time. So you know,

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Speaker 1: a window or if it zone coverage, you know, snapping

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Speaker 1: giving good body language to the quarterback. So I snapped down,

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Speaker 1: give him my eyes and my chest and they know

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Speaker 1: exactly what it put it, just put it on my

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Speaker 1: having Kenny here, who's a similar wide receiver to you

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Speaker 1: get better by using each other. So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: little tricks you've learned where you can use your physicality

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Speaker 1: chicken wing. You know, use one arm and don't fully extend.

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Speaker 1: Don't extend right, do not extend because that's obvious and

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Speaker 1: the rest will call that. Everyone in the stands could

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Speaker 1: see it. Everyone and their mom knows that's offensive past interference.

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Speaker 1: But if you give him a little chicken wing, you

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Speaker 1: So you can do that on gold balls when uh

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks one at outside shoulder the dbs inside to

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Speaker 1: give him a little chicken wing inside, create separation and

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Speaker 1: catch it over the shoulder um. And you could use

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Speaker 1: that anything in breaking route. You lean on him, you

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Speaker 1: snap it off, give him the little chicken wing and

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Speaker 1: run as fast as you can inside, so any route, anytime,

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Speaker 1: you could always use that chicken wing. And for any

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Speaker 1: of my big receivers listening, uh, add that to your tool, kid,

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Speaker 1: because it definitely works. There's been a lot of receivers

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Speaker 1: you watch old Michael Irvin tapes, my goodness, he was

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Speaker 1: the king of the you know, elbow chicken wing push off,

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Speaker 1: little bit about the wide receiver, right, you guys learning

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Speaker 1: from each other. What is it like going against this

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Speaker 1: the whole NFL is going to too. Safety's deep, a

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Speaker 1: how this offense does does give receivers some more freedom

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Speaker 1: what type of freedom you have on any given play

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, there's so many different options and based

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Speaker 1: coach just emphasize all the time just being on the

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Speaker 1: you know, put your own sauce on it, as the

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