1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we are 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: rolling through so many different big topics out there. By 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: the way, We're headed up to Wisconsin during the course 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: of today's program. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: A big battle going on in the Senate. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: They're one of many big battles that could potentially flip 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: control of the United States Senate to Republican control or 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: keep it firmly in the grasp of the Democrats. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: We are three days away from people actually. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Being able to vote in the South Carolina primary. I 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: know some of you were already starting to vote early, 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: and it has become nasty between Nicky Haley and Donald Trump. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Trump last night with Laura Ingram in a town hall 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: in South Caroline. We will discuss that will continue to 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: break down what to us, but Buck and myself feels 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: very strange the entire concept of Nicki Haley's campaign. But Buck, 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to start with the continued discussions about Joe 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Biden's health. 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: Yesterday. Biden right now, by the way, is out. 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: In California doing three straight days of fundraisers. He wasn't 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: able to go out there because of the writer strikes 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: and the actor strikes and everything else. So he's now 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: walking around basically panhandling from the Hollywood elite, from everyone 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: of his wealthy supporters in California. But he tripped going 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: up what's being called the Baby Stairs. They have stopped 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: allowing Biden to walk all the way up the big 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: majestic staircase that often is connected to Air Force One, 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: and he now is just going up and down the 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Baby stairs. He tripped, nearly fell. There are reports that 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: they have a secret service agent now station on the 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: stairs to try to keep Biden from hurting himself. And 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting, Buck. I want to play 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: this for you. Our good friend Karine Jean Pierre. She says, 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: anybody talking about Biden's health is calling their own journalistic 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: objectivity into question. 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Listen to cut three. 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: It's about the New York Times coverage. Is that that 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: display what we believe a journalistic objectivity about coverage of 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: the present's age speaks to why we're agreeing with former 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan, And she says, 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: maybe the Times and other major media outlets ought to 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: look in the mirror. Self scrutiny and course correction are 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: not among their course strengths. 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: And I'll leave it. 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: There, Buck, I mean, it's a different level of gaslighting 49 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: to argue that what seventy five or eighty percent, eighty 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: six percent, by the way of the most recent poll 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: I saw in ABC News, people definitely consider Joe Biden's 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: mental and physical health to be an issue. That it 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: is unfair and actually objectionable journalism for the New York 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: Times to be taking note of this. But this is 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: where they're headed, right. You're not even allowed to raise 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: it as an issue. That's the way they're trying to 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: wall off Biden's infirmities. And I think, and I think 58 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: as you continue to break that down, but my good 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: friend Buck may find himself here on an island as 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: more and more people are saying, by the way, we're 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: working on a tech issue with Buck right now to 62 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: get him up in his studio. No, no, we got we 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: got sorry, all right, what do you think about this 64 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: gas lighting? By the way, with Green, Jean Pierre and 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: everything associated with you're not even allowed to raise as 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: an issue something that every American it feels like on 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: some level is talking about right now. 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: There's nothing that they can say that's going to change 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: what everyone is already seeing. And that's why I think 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: that they're just going to have to gaslight and and 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: hope that the the legal stuff they're pulling against Trump 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: is enough. I think that Joe Biden, Look, none of 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: this changes my analysis, despite the fact that I know 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: there are some additional people. 75 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: Now you are on a tiny island buck that keeps 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: getting smaller and smaller as it pertains to whether Biden 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: is going to be the nominee. 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: I know, of all these who the letter to Einstein 79 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: your relativity. You know, how could a hundred of the 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: most eminent scientists get this get this wrong? 81 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: He said, Well, only takes one of them to prove 82 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: me wrong. 83 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: Rather, it's up you get the baths of it, which 84 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 5: is that it doesn't matter what everyone says. All that 85 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 5: matters is what actually happens here. I think that that Biden, 86 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: the Biden plan continues on as is. I know that 87 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: he was asked about the situation of the visit to California. 88 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 5: I don't think Gavin Newsom would do well. I don't 89 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 5: know why look do we have ah, mister mister Joe 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 5: Rogan saying this, do we have that? 91 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we've got that audio play it. No, all right, 92 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: let's no. 93 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: I think they're going to get rid of them. I 94 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: think they're gonna move them out, They're going to force 95 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: them to step down. That's what I think. If I 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: had a guess in this chest speculation, I'd say they're 97 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: setting up Gavin Newsom for it. That's what I say. 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: That's what I think. That's what it looks like to me. 99 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: He's wrong one. 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, well, I was gonna say, Gavin Newsom is 101 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: not somebody who would do well in. 102 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: The swing states. 103 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 5: So this is like, there's there's no reasona believe that 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom would outperform a sitting president even in his 105 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: current state in Georgia. Gavin Newsom's gonna play so well 106 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: in Georgia. Gavin Newsom's gonna play so well Michigan. He's 107 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 5: the most liberal governor of the most liberal state in 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: the country, and you know, have for all the deficits, 109 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: as for all the difference. This is where I was looking. 110 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: He's a totally commodity who served Obama for eight years. 111 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 5: And has been in politics nationally as a senator for 112 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: forty so and he comes from Delaware, that's a liberal state. 113 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: But if not thought of as like part of. 114 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 5: Liberalism, the Newsom you ain't anything, and somebody who's eighty 115 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: years non function but in terms of well branded, they'll 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: feel like it's a fight. It is about who this 117 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 5: leader is. Gavin Newsom doesn't cut it. 118 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I I do think that the conversation 119 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: is becoming at this point in time so interesting, Like 120 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: even when you read people trying to break down what's 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: going on with the Biden administry right now, I'm seeing 122 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: more and more people say, hey, this is going to 123 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: go to a contested convention. But the point that Buck 124 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: is making, I think is a really good one where 125 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: if you look at the polling as bad as Joe 126 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: Biden polls, Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris pull much worse. 127 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: And so the challenge that, look, I don't think that 128 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: Biden has the mental or physical ability. I started saying 129 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: a long time ago on this show that basically we 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: were headed for weekend at Bernie's two, where they were 131 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: going to attempt to try to reenact the twenty twenty campaign. 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: The difference is I think if you put Joe Biden's 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: side by side and you listen to Joe Biden talk 134 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty campaign and you listen to him 135 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: talk in the twenty twenty four campaign, there's no real comparison. 136 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: The amount of decline that we have seen from Joe 137 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Biden in the first three years of his presidency is 138 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: frankly staggering, and maybe some of you out there it 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: shouldn't be staggering because we started talking on this show 140 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: when we first took over. If you remember what Barack 141 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: Obama and George W. Bush, to use two examples, looked 142 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: like when they entered the White House compared to how 143 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: they looked when they left, they looked like different human beings. 144 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: They aged far more than the four years in the 145 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: four years term, in the eight years in the eight 146 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: years term. And by the way, I think both of them, 147 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: as soon as they got out of the White House 148 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: and they didn't have the all encompassing pressure of being 149 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: President of the United States on their shoulders for every 150 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: minute of every day, I think their aging declined. Remember 151 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: the picture of Biden, sorry of Obama on his vacation 152 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: when he was out in the Caribbean just living it up, 153 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: it looked like he looked so much younger. And how 154 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: about George W. Bush, for those of you in Texas, 155 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: who was not that old of a guy when he 156 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: got into office. How much different he looked in terms 157 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: of the weight of the office on him. And to 158 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: even put the weight of the office, frankly on Joe 159 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: Biden at seventy eight years old, I think was a 160 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: poor choice. But to put it on an eighty two 161 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: year old, I don't even think Democrats believe it's possible. 162 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: And so I think there are a lot of Joe 163 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: Rogan's out there. Joe Rogan obviously has a huge audience. 164 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: A lot of his audience is there because they trust 165 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: is common sense, and I understand Buck's perspective on there 166 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: is no better option. But the challenge here to me 167 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: is how in the world do you end up in 168 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: a situation where you put Biden out on the stage 169 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: and even the ladies on the view as idiotic as 170 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: they are. We're having a real debate, which we've been 171 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: having for a couple of years on this program, about 172 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: whether or not Joe Biden is even physically capable of 173 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: being on the debate stage with Donald Trump, and Buck, 174 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: to his credit, has said for some time Joe Biden 175 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: is not going to get on the debate stage. And 176 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: my one concern about Trump not debating any of the 177 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: Republican candidates is he may well use Trump not debating 178 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: any of the Republican candidates as evidence of why he 179 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: doesn't need to run, and he can say, look, you 180 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 2: all know what Donald Trump believes, you all know what 181 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: I believe. There's no need to go through the charada 182 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: the debate. I'm not going to platform him spreading the 183 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: lies about democracy. Our country can't handle it. Now, that's 184 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: a lie. The reality is Biden would, I believe, struggle 185 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: mightily to be able to be on the stage for 186 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: two hours. Heck, even what you saw with Trump yesterday 187 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: with Laura Ingram, Biden I don't believe at this point 188 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: in time could do a one hour sit down and 189 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: actually be capable of doing what Trump did yesterday with 190 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: Laura Ingram, to say nothing of all the interviews that 191 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: Trump has done with a variety of media, including this show, 192 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: when he came right in off playing eighteen holes, still 193 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: dressed in his golf spikes and set down and talk 194 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: to us and you for an hour straight without even 195 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: having to have any prep or anything else. Biden couldn't 196 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: do that. We'll continue to break this down for you. 197 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: Really interesting firing going on back and forth between Nicky 198 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Haley and Donald Trump. We played you some of the 199 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: cuts from Nicky Haley. Trump fired back at Nicki Haley 200 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: last night during his Laura Ingram town hall. I still 201 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: don't understand what in the world is going on with 202 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley and her advisors. 203 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: None of it's adding up. We'll try and break that 204 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: all down for you. 205 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: It feels to me, and I hate to say it, 206 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: like Nicki Haley is laying the groundwork to potentially run 207 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: as a third party candidate. To me, that feels like 208 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: where we are headed right now. It's the only thing 209 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: logically that seems to make any sense at all. We'll 210 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: break all that down for you. We'll take some of 211 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: your calls. 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Everything's perfect in Miami except maybe the Internet today. 237 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 238 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. Wanted 239 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: to mention a couple of things I was reading this 240 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: morning as I got ready for the program. It's a 241 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: big piece on Hunter Biden's sugar lawyer, the individual who 242 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: has given Biden millions of dollars, and he's kind of 243 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: a shady Hollywood character who says he's worth over one 244 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars he's given Hunter Biden. I think the 245 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: total is six point five million dollars. He's bought huge 246 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: numbers of his artwork. I believe the number is over 247 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: eleven different aspects of the artwork. And he's been leading 248 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: up the charge for the way that Hunter Biden has 249 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: been responding to all of this, the allegations, including by 250 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: the way, I give credit to Hunter's defense attorneys. Have 251 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: you seen the latest that they're saying about the Department 252 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: of Justice allegations that he was using cocaine when he 253 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: was applying for his gun license. They're now saying that 254 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: that was actually a refuse from wood carving like wood chips, 255 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: and not actually residue from cocaine that was included in 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's imagery. Now that in and of itself is 257 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: pretty crazy to even think about. I give credit sometimes, 258 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: you know, for the audacity of arguments. No, no, no, no, 259 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: that wasn't cocaine. And by the way, they tested, according 260 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: to the Department of Justice, the residue on the gun 261 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: case based on what I have read and found that 262 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: it was cocaine. But they're saying, oh, some of this 263 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: imagery that's just a wood carving refuse. It isn't actually 264 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: cocaine at all. But this this Morris character, this Hunter 265 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Biden sugar lawyer, who has paid for gobs and gobs 266 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: of the expenses of Hunter Biden since this all started. 267 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: Nobody's ever really been able to explain what he's in 268 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: this for. 269 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: And there's a huge profile piece. 270 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: I bet it's twenty five hundred words about him, and 271 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: even the Biden administration people seem a bit taken aback 272 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: by this attorney's connection to Hunter Biden and the fact 273 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: that they are in the process of making a documentary 274 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: and there basically have been cameras following him around throughout. 275 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: A guy's name, by the way, Kevin Morris. Six point 276 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: five million dollars he's given and he's been very prominent 277 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: in many of the Hunter Biden related related appearances. And 278 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: Biden was leaving, and so I would encourage you guys 279 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: to go read this article, even though it's in the 280 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: New York Times, because can you imagine if there was 281 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: some sort of shady Svengali like figure surrounding one of 282 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: the Trump sons that had given six and a half 283 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: million dollars, including buying double digits worth of Hunter Biden artwork. 284 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: He's also charging a low interest rate, says he might 285 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: forgive all of this. He paid off all of Hunter 286 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: Biden's taxes. 287 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: What in the world is. 288 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Going on right now? Where did this guy come from? 289 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: He's sixty years old and suddenly he's best friends with 290 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden and he's following him around all the time. 291 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: He paid off all different sorts of these charges and 292 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't ever really add up, and he's basically leading 293 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: all of the all of the Hunter Biden pr team. 294 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: It's all very strange, but it ties in with right 295 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: now Joe Biden being on the West coast for these 296 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: fund rams, and as Biden was leaving yesterday, he was asked, 297 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about who might replace Biden. He was asked 298 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: whether or not this trip was about giving Gavin Newsom 299 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: an opportunity to be Plan B. 300 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Here is that audio? As Biden was leaving the White 301 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: House yesterday. 302 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 6: Down up, Biden? Are you ready? 303 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking for I'm looking at you. 304 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 6: We're looking at you. 305 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: Hey, well, loll lo, whoa. 306 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: Whoa, But I came to tell you was I told 307 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 6: you we'd be announcing sanctions on Rusher. 308 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: We'll have a major package announced time Friday. 309 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: All right, all of that doesn't again, Biden getting asked, hey, 310 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: is there a Plan B in place? 311 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: What exactly is going on here? Uh? 312 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: And we'll bring in Buck. I believe he's back up 313 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: and running here in a second. When we come back 314 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: in the in the back half of this hour. We'll 315 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: also take some of your calls. Buck can defend his 316 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: position and that Hunter Biden is going to be not 317 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: going to be a drag on Joe Biden, and Joe 318 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: Biden's going to be the nominee in twenty twenty four. 319 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: He's on an island. Joe Rogan's out left the island. 320 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: In the meantime, I want to tell you all about Chalk. 321 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: You know, you just heard Joe Biden trying to answer questions. 322 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: He's probably still sleeping on the West Coast. He hardly 323 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: has any public events. He doesn't have energy vim vigger 324 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: vitality that he needs. He can use a little bit 325 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: of chalk. That spelled with the Q cchoq. Most men 326 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: don't want to admit testosterone levels down fifty percent from 327 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: what our grandfathers and great grandfathers had. The male Vitality 328 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: stack will replenish twenty percent of that diminished level in 329 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: just three months time. I would love to send a 330 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 2: huge stampole to Joe Biden so maybe he could actually 331 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: do the job of being president of the United States. 332 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 2: And now, through the end of February, Chalk's offering a 333 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: massive discount on any subscription for life, exclusive to our listeners. 334 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: Visit chalk dot com use my name Clay to unlock 335 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: the exclusive February offer. Cchoq dot com my name Clay 336 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: to get that map discount. 337 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: All right, the buck is back. I think you can 338 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: all hear be sorry about that. 339 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 5: South Florida Internet architecture is a little third world sometimes, 340 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: so you know, you have to just roll with it. 341 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: I thought it was a conspiracy theorist trying to take 342 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 5: you out because they don't want you to be standing 343 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: on the island alone arguing that Joe Biden's going to 344 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 5: be the nominee in twenty twenty four. I think the 345 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 5: other side wants everyone to believe this craziness that they're 346 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 5: going to spend months and months campaigning for a ticket 347 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 5: that they're then just going to abandon, even though that 348 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 5: ticket is currently the occupant of the White House and 349 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 5: his vice president. So I heard some of what I 350 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 5: was doing, my best impression of what was it? Scotty 351 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: from Storm from Starship Enterprise? Right, isn't he the one 352 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 5: is like coming? 353 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: I count? 354 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 7: Do it? I count? 355 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: I need full speed star Trek. Right? 356 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: Was the Starship Enterprise than any of the ship Okaya Clay? 357 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean, well, I just think it the Enterprise? Is 358 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: it the Starship Enterprise? Yeah, it's a Starship Enterprise. Of course, 359 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: my starship Enterprise. 360 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: So I was you do not want me to be 361 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: the guy who is fixing your tech issue? That is 362 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: not my skill set. So but I managed to do 363 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 5: it with the help of our fantastic team. So anyway, 364 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: we're back on and and I'm so excited we will 365 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 5: talk to all of you again. And I'm also you know, 366 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: I'm speaking to our friend Jesse Kelly about this later 367 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 5: today on his show too, because now everyone's everyone's trying 368 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 5: to see, am I gonna stand strong on this or 369 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 5: am I gonna? 370 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: Am I gonna. 371 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: Who else is prominently in the Biden is definitely gonna 372 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: be the nominee in twenty twenty four. Camp with you. 373 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: Who's on island Biden right now? I mean, I think 374 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: there's no question that at this point in American conservative 375 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: political discourse, I am the most stalwart and vote. I'm 376 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: just even trying to think of who you're, who you're, 377 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: who your partner in crime is At this point, I 378 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: can't even think of anybody on the island with you. 379 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: It's lonely at the top, Clay, It's lonely at the top. 380 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: So I'm just telling you, I'm I'm I'm dug in 381 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: on this one. Like I said, either Biden or Kamala, 382 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: And that would be true of any residential ticket. That's 383 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: why you have a vice president And and I think 384 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: that that's very unlikely to change. And part of this 385 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 5: is everyone's starting to see now that you know, we 386 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: had thought, I think Clay that the law fair stuff 387 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 5: against Trump, and I want to get into a little 388 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: a little bit of this. I mean, he did he 389 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 5: compared himself to Navalny. Right, Yes, the lawfair stuff against Trump. 390 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: We thought, well, it's haphazard, it's legally absurd, it's doing 391 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 5: uh just it's destroying faith in the justice department, it 392 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 5: is undermining the constitution, is doing all of these things. 393 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 5: But it isn't a Russian modern gulag where people are 394 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 5: you know, sent away and abused and beaten and die 395 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: in prison. Right, So it's not quite the same thing. 396 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: But Trump is saying, I think the broader point here, 397 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: as long as you understand it's a different degree. The 398 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 5: broader point is they are using the system as a 399 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 5: political weapon in very clear ways. Here's what Trump actually 400 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: said about this Navalni death slash, his own legal persecution 401 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: playclip six. 402 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 8: Navalney is a very sad situation, and he's very brave. 403 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: He was a very brave guy because he went back. 404 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: He could have stayed. 405 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 8: Away, and frankly probably would have been a lot better 406 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 8: off staying away and talking from outside of the country 407 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 8: as supposed to happen to go back in because people 408 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 8: thought that could happen, and it did happen, and it's 409 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 8: a horrible thing. 410 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: But it's happening in our country too. 411 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 8: We are turning into a communist country in many ways. 412 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 8: And if you look at it, I'm the leading candidate. 413 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 8: I got indebted. I never heard of being indicted before 414 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 8: I was going. I got indicted four times. I have 415 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 8: eight or nine trials, all because of the fact that 416 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 8: I'm and you know this, all because of the fact 417 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 8: that I'm in politics. 418 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: They indicted me on things that are so ridiculous. It's true. 419 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what he's saying is true. 420 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 5: Now, I understand why people who don't like Trump are 421 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 5: going to jump on the navalney situation, but let's also 422 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: be clear what they're doing against Trump isn't over. I mean, 423 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 5: there is a scenario in which they may be making 424 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 5: an argument that Donald Trump should actually go to prison, 425 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 5: and US federal prison not that much better than you know, 426 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 5: prison is prison. It's not like going to a Russian 427 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 5: prison is whole orders of magnitude worse. Your freedom is gone. 428 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: So I do think that there's an awakening here Claydon 429 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: just how much all these different legal assaults entanglements are 430 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: supposed to be why somebody, even as unpopular and incompetent 431 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: as Joe Biden could find himself winning the twenty twenty 432 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 5: four election. I think it really is just they're hoping 433 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: the legal stuff does all the work for them. 434 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And one aspect of this that needs to be 435 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: discussed more is there's no equivalent behavior by Republicans or 436 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: red state leadership, and people out there say, Okay, what 437 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: do you mean by that? Trump is not being judged 438 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: by a jury of his peers. He's being judged by 439 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: a left wing Democrat dominated New York City jury pool, 440 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: which I hope one of you listening to us right 441 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: now in WOOR can get on and end up doing 442 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: what I think is the most important thing that you 443 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: could do as a juror in the event that you 444 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: were on that case, which is say this is a 445 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: mistrial and this is a miscarriage of justice, and I'm 446 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: not going to vote for a conviction. And the same 447 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: thing is taking place in Washington, d C. Which is 448 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: even more of a rig jury pool than what exists 449 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: in New York City, and there is no Republican equivalent, 450 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: and this is major structural issue. This is why I 451 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: said I wouldn't have any assets in New York City. 452 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: I saw I was reading SSH James Buck said she 453 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: wants to seize the Trump Building and actually take control 454 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: of it because she wants to make sure that Trump 455 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: doesn't have the ability to even control that asset. You're 456 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: talking about Trump having to put over four hundred million 457 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: dollars up as bond even to appeal the ruling that 458 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: they've already gotten. There is no equivalent, and I would 459 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: say this is to me lawfair requires on some level 460 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: a mutual risk. And so one thing I'm disappointed by 461 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: is that there isn't a red state attorney general using 462 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: some sort of red state jury to try to really 463 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: go after people like they're going after Trump. I think 464 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: it's a bad precedent, But if you're going to apply 465 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: the precedent on only one side of the political equation, 466 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: I think it's hard to argue that it's going to 467 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: change unless Democrats start feeling some peril like they're trying 468 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: to put Donald Trump in I think Navaldi analogy as 469 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: you consider it on a spectrum, what is happening to 470 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: Trump is a much lesser version of what happens to Navaldi, 471 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: but they are connected. It's the people in positions of 472 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: power trying to put the chief political opponent in prison 473 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. I mean, they may 474 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: not kill him there, but they're trying to put him there. 475 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: And when you start to see the trajectory, I think 476 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 5: it's fair to point out that if you're able to 477 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: bankrupt a person, tie them up with for federal different 478 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: for federal criminal trials, you know you are threatening to 479 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 5: put them in prison for the rest of their lives. 480 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: The charges are absurd, The politicization of the prosecutors is obvious. 481 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: The timing of this is all rigged. I mean that 482 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: is rigged. 483 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 5: I mean, the one of the issues we're going to 484 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 5: have here everyone is twenty twenty four happens, and it 485 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 5: will be a true statement to say, really, no matter 486 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 5: what at this point, Democrats rig the election by holding 487 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: off on criminal prosecutions until the election year. And I 488 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 5: don't want to say that because I want the country 489 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 5: to be able to move forward. And I'm hoping Donald 490 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 5: Trump actually wins, and you know, we get into a 491 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 5: much better place. But it's already effectively a Faye doc complee. 492 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: It is already going to be the case that they 493 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 5: have done something that is an abuse of the system 494 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 5: and abuse of power in order to skew the twenty 495 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 5: twenty four election toward them. And that's just a fact. 496 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: It's just true that that is what is going on 497 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: right now. So yes, I understand they're focusing so much 498 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 5: on Navalney is you know, he faced this horrible monster 499 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 5: in Vladimir Putin. 500 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: What they're doing to Trump is pretty monstrous. 501 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 5: Actually, it's when you look at this we always, I think, 502 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 5: view it through the prism of Donald Trump. Is this 503 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 5: unstoppable force. Nothing fases him. He was president, he may 504 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: be president again. He's billionaire and they can't phase him. 505 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 5: Imagine if they did this as somebody else, I mean, really, 506 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: any other politician that I can think of. I don't 507 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: think anybody. Look, I don't think I'd be able to 508 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 5: handle this, even if you gave me a few billion dollars, right, 509 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that what they're putting him through 510 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: is a trial by ordeal in the in the medieval sense, 511 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 5: right where you lose either way, You either float or 512 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 5: you're a witch when they tie the stones to you. 513 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 5: And that's what's going on here, and that they're using 514 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 5: the legal system in a way that the precedent for me, 515 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 5: Clay is still the most troubling part, right, well, I 516 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: should say the most troubling an additionally troubling part of this. 517 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: They're trying to destroy Trump. But if they get away 518 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: with this, who can't they destroy Well that's why. 519 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: And again I'm an optimist, and sometimes I'm maybe way 520 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: too optimistic. I actually think right now this is blowing 521 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: up in Democrats' faces because there's a poll came out 522 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: Trump's up eight. 523 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: There's a poll that came out, Trump's up six. 524 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: Trump is at according to the polling Universe, the strongest 525 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: position of his entire political career. He never really led 526 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: against Hillary Clinton, he never led against Biden in twenty twenty. Remember, 527 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: he doesn't need to win, He just needs to keep 528 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: it within a point or two. Based on the way 529 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: the electoral college is set up, Trump doesn't have to 530 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: win the popular vote to get elected president. And if 531 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: the election were happening on Saturday, like it's happening in 532 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: South Carolina, I think it would be close but I 533 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: think Trump would win most of the toss up states, 534 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: and I think he would get three hundred electoral votes. 535 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: I think he would win somewhat comfortably in the electoral College, 536 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: and I think to a large extent that would be 537 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: a function of the lawfair that the Democrats have put 538 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: in place. So if we wanted to set a message 539 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: in a precedent, the best thing I think that could 540 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: happen for our country's democracy would be Trump wins. And 541 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: later we go back and look at the nitty gritty 542 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: of why he won, and people say, you know what, 543 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: this was independent voters saying it's wrong to try to 544 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: put your chief political opponent in prison for the rest 545 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: of his life, and maybe no other party does it 546 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: because it blows up in the face of Democrats. And 547 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: that's the precedent that ultimately we take away from twenty 548 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: twenty four. 549 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: And in optimistic vein. 550 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: I think it would be fair to say, and I 551 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: don't think this is a reality or this is a 552 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 5: reflection of what happened in Trump's first four years. Even 553 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 5: if Trump were a mediocre Republican, you know, if Trump 554 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 5: were aromniesque milk toast kind of goes a little bit 555 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: too much with what the Democrats want to given what 556 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 5: they are doing to him. I think it's very clear 557 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: you can make a case that standing against the dirty 558 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: tricks of the Democrats and the weaponization of the justice 559 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 5: system and the whole Democrat apparatus, breaking all these rules 560 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 5: and violating all these norms in order to get him, 561 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: I think it's fully justified to say no is a 562 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 5: protest vote against this. Yes, you know, meaning you're going 563 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: to vote for Trump even if you thought Trump was 564 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 5: going to be a very mediocre Republican and I don't 565 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: think he would be in a second term. 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I feel totally comfortable voting 571 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: for voting for Mitt Romney just based on the fact 572 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 5: that nominally he's a Republican and what they are doing 573 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: cannot stand. 574 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: And by the way you say that as a Republican. 575 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: What I would hope is there's independent voters listening to 576 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: us right now that don't like Trump or Biden and 577 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: say the precedent that's being set here is wrong. 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In the first hour, let 615 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: me head up to Cedar rapids Iowa, Jim, We're going 616 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: to talk some about this because Nicky Haley's big in 617 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: a speech yesterday and then Trump reacting to or Jim, 618 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: what's your theory about what's going on with Nicki Haley. 619 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 6: Well, I'm of the belief that she's just wolf and 620 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 6: she's clothing. I bet politics and stuff, and I have 621 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: quite a bit bet that Biden will not be the candidate. 622 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: But anyhow, a smart man, I. 623 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 6: Look at the sports betting things, and yesterday I noticed 624 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 6: there's a a large betting organization Bobado. Yeah, and they 625 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 6: have Nicky Hayley. This is fifth in line in the 626 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 6: betting on the Democrat side. 627 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. I love. 628 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: And this is the crazy conspiracy theory. Buck is Nicky Haley? 629 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: I think third party is far more likely. Can I 630 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: say what what Trump is saying about we have? This 631 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: is a cut eight. Trump is already out there saying 632 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: the only reason Nicky Haley is still in this is 633 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: because Democrats are running her as a as a tool 634 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: against Donald Trump so that he can't lock up the 635 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: nomination early. 636 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: He said it himself, this is cut eight. Play it. 637 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: Why do you think she's staying in the race? 638 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 8: I don't think she knows how to get out. Actually, 639 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 8: I really don't. She did terribly in New Hampshire. She 640 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: got Mo the only vote. 641 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: She got her. 642 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: What do they think They're well, they're. 643 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 8: Trying to hurt me because of the general election. So 644 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 8: the Democrats are giving her money and she's playing into 645 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 8: the game, and I think she just can't get she 646 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 8: just can't get herself to get out. 647 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: She's being used by Democrats to undermine Trump. At this point. 648 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 5: You know, she can say whatever she wants, but staying 649 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 5: in as long as she wants. But it doesn't look 650 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 5: I don't think it looks. This is I'm sorry. This 651 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 5: is different than the other Republicans who ran. They all said, 652 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: let's see what the people think. We know what the 653 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: Republican Party thinks. There is no question about what the 654 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 5: Republican Party faithful believe when it comes to who should 655 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 5: be the nominee. 656 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: What gem and Cedar Rapids is hinting at buck and 657 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: we've talked about third party. There is a conspiracy theory 658 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: out there that the reason NICKI Haley is staying in 659 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: what he said is in gambling market. She's the fifth 660 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 2: most likely Democrat nominee that they are going to replace 661 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 2: Biden and that Nicki Haley somehow will end up a 662 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: part of the Democrat ticket when they go to their 663 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: convention in August. Now that is, you know, potentially, I'm 664 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: on the Michelle Obama train August nineteenth through twenty second 665 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: in Chicago. But that is what some people out there 666 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: are having the conversation about. Yeah, see, what's really going 667 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: to happen, Guys. I don't know how many of you've 668 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: seen Jurassic Park, but they're going to take a little 669 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: bit of Abraham Lincoln's DNA. 670 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 5: They're gonna reanimate, They're going to bring back Lincoln an 671 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: unbeatable candidate. They're going to breathe life back into Abraham 672 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: Lincoln through the miracles of DNA, and he will be 673 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 5: running against Donald Trump. If you don't believe this guy's 674 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 5: you're just you're just not not down with the struggle. 675 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: You don't get what's going on. 676 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: Sadly, Buck, I don't think Abraham Lincoln's good looking enough 677 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: to get elected in a television age and some of 678 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: you out there and his voice. 679 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: Was a little weird, right, that's voice in the movie 680 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: The What's his name? 681 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 5: Daniel de Lewis did the weird voice for him is 682 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 5: that he kind of had a high whiskey voice. 683 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: They said, no doubt. 684 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: By the way, details on that Kansas City parade shooting 685 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna want to hear now,