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Speaker 2: in Frisco alongside Isaiah stand Back, John Machoda, Nick Harris,
Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back.
Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Gentlemen, how we doing well?
Speaker 2: Doing all right? Well? Man, you're you're coming in hot
Speaker 2: this morning, coming in hot, baby, listen.
Speaker 4: I got to kind of fan question competitions on the mind.
Speaker 5: Last year, my offer did.
Speaker 2: Not get accepted. Nope. I threw an offer upstairs.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say any names.
Speaker 5: Kyle cau you can say him.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say the name Danny mc d I
Speaker 6: repeat it.
Speaker 7: I put an offer out there. I said, Danny mccraid,
Speaker 7: you want to see me? He for some reason, he
Speaker 7: thinks he was faster than me. He still does, by
Speaker 7: the way, and never in his life has his stat
Speaker 7: line or analytics ever stated that he's faster than me.
Speaker 2: Not ever. Was he a returning guy?
Speaker 8: Nope?
Speaker 6: Okay, just okay.
Speaker 2: Was he on offense? No? No, didn't trust him with
Speaker 2: the ball? Oh damn?
Speaker 5: All right, So just say so.
Speaker 7: I don't know why he's out here catching straight craid
Speaker 7: you come see me draft fed Drid. He thought he
Speaker 7: was faster than me. So I offered up the challenge, right,
Speaker 7: was it ever? Was it ever received?
Speaker 5: Kyle?
Speaker 2: It was received? Did they act on it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: And I have Beamer in the back to be my witness.
Speaker 6: Okay, offered it up, didn't get accepted.
Speaker 2: Now I'm offering up another one.
Speaker 7: I want a Battle of the Cowboys podcast seven on
Speaker 7: seven tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just a straight battle. We're not We're not
Speaker 2: going Anchorman on this. Now. We're going out and hitting
Speaker 2: the grid. We're going seven on seven.
Speaker 7: And I don't think that there's any podcasts out there,
Speaker 7: including a player's lounge, that wants to see us Nick.
Speaker 2: At all at all?
Speaker 8: Who's covering me?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I thought I have no idea
Speaker 2: who's covering John Listen here.
Speaker 7: John is gonna be out here like Gronkowski, Jason Whitten.
Speaker 9: Huh, I look forward to that.
Speaker 2: That's a challenge, he said, to think about.
Speaker 9: Damy mcraid.
Speaker 10: All I was thinking of is how nervous I would
Speaker 10: be just on a just a straight up sprint running
Speaker 10: against somebody. And really it's all because of that Kevin
Speaker 10: Hart video from like a month ago where he was
Speaker 10: like racing on that cart.
Speaker 5: And blew his hip out.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the challenge, the chill just been handed down.
Speaker 7: Beamer, if you had to take a century since you
Speaker 7: worked with every single podcast spot, I'm putting them on
Speaker 7: the spot, Breamer, which podcast would you put your would
Speaker 7: you put your money on?
Speaker 2: Speak?
Speaker 8: Speak wisely?
Speaker 4: Mix shots?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I have to shut stuff in here.
Speaker 7: Reverb.
Speaker 2: I don't know players. Longe is gonna be tough because
Speaker 2: you got you got Church and you got McCrae.
Speaker 4: Okay, who's throwing two punch?
Speaker 6: Who's throwing the ball over there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But they have to cover skills.
Speaker 8: Who's covering me? Barry Church can't cover me?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Barry just hites people he don't cover.
Speaker 4: Probably lock you down.
Speaker 6: Pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, probably it'd.
Speaker 4: Be like three it's a three to nothing game.
Speaker 8: I'd be in prison.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be three nothing and the only the
Speaker 2: only points will be John Machoda kicking a field goal.
Speaker 5: So you go, So, lets let's put it out here
Speaker 5: like this.
Speaker 7: Okay, because it's four people, right, four people on the podcast,
Speaker 7: you can go pick up an additional three guys from
Speaker 7: your network.
Speaker 2: So oh so there's like some cross pollination possibilities. We
Speaker 2: would give them the ability to go find a quarterback.
Speaker 4: Okay, well i'll tell you right now, got on the play. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that are just feared of
Speaker 4: torn A.
Speaker 11: C l's well, you know, Nick like pulled his like
Speaker 11: quad and it's still black and blue like two years ago.
Speaker 2: You get this.
Speaker 7: We have resources now, don't you worry. Even if I
Speaker 7: didn't want to play quarterback, I have another quarterback I
Speaker 7: can bring in as a ringer.
Speaker 5: Now we were good.
Speaker 2: Who you're bringing in, I'm not telling them, so they
Speaker 2: can reach out to him from from Oregon.
Speaker 7: It has to be local guys. It has to be
Speaker 7: local guys. You know, I know Church and McCray. They'll
Speaker 7: probably try to see if wood he wants to come
Speaker 7: out of retirement, you know that we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: We're not doing that.
Speaker 6: He's upstairs.
Speaker 2: I know that's a local guy. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They would try to go get Woody.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, and what he's gonna be like, Nah,
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna do it, and everything walls you.
Speaker 5: Can get it to. I f couldn't bring you out
Speaker 5: of retirement.
Speaker 7: I say it out had too much fun. Hey, but
Speaker 7: beaber so Biaber sounds like beamers going with players.
Speaker 5: Like Nate Newton has a lot of guys you can get.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but I mean, but they have to play today.
Speaker 4: It's got the rolling it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But Troy sitting back there throwing dives.
Speaker 6: Troy, Troy could ride a bicycle right now. He can't.
Speaker 6: That's what he does now right, he's a biker.
Speaker 2: Now he's just throwing out.
Speaker 8: I would be to have a lot of enemies.
Speaker 9: You think he's still do yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think send us a text mess and then
Speaker 2: called Michael.
Speaker 7: Mike's not running nowhere comed today today Today, we're talking
Speaker 7: about today.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's still running by this side of the table,
Speaker 9: I'm calling.
Speaker 2: To you, okay, huh Okay, huh is he showing up?
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's still balling.
Speaker 2: I'm calling new Okay, he's not. He might be local.
Speaker 8: We're just sitting there real quick.
Speaker 2: Was not local anymore?
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: He still has a house here.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: No secret.
Speaker 2: Send us a text message.
Speaker 5: It was in my wedding. I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: Who would win in a seven on seven style football
Speaker 2: showdown amongst the Cowboys podcast A one seven two nine
Speaker 2: zero three two nine eight. There's your text line that
Speaker 2: just happened. And if you had to add one person
Speaker 2: to each of the podcasts, one person, who would it be?
Speaker 10: Ye?
Speaker 2: Who would you pick?
Speaker 4: There you go, there's the hypothetical.
Speaker 2: Come all right, enough talk about that news and notes, snick,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Jerry Jones was on the fan this morning.
Speaker 8: I got a couple of things to run through via
Speaker 8: John mashowda's phenomenal tweeting this morning. We could start with
Speaker 8: Ezekiel Elliott obviously making his return to at a T
Speaker 8: Stadium on Sunday, and he was asked if there's any
Speaker 8: you know, surprise or anything they're going to do for
Speaker 8: him pregame and Jerry Jones said, I don't want to
Speaker 8: blow a surprise. So yeah, it looks like we're gonna
Speaker 8: have something pregame for Zeke.
Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, something for Zeke. What would you anticipate?
Speaker 4: Just a quick little ceremony or something big time? Maybe
Speaker 4: a video.
Speaker 2: I've seen they've done the videos for Ring of Honor.
Speaker 2: They'll oh, that's what you're going to pull up. Let's
Speaker 2: you could be a twenty one all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Stephan Gilmour has to switch numbers, like yeah, just.
Speaker 9: Be a video.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a video tribute.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 10: That's what they did for Witting. Yeah, they did for
Speaker 10: Romo his first game, calm after coming back.
Speaker 6: So I think they'll give him a video in a
Speaker 6: salvation army bucket.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there gonna be a metal involved. Is there gonna
Speaker 8: be a kettle involved?
Speaker 6: I think there's got to be right, it has to be.
Speaker 2: That would be cool. We are going to preview the
Speaker 2: Cowboys defense versus Zeke in that Pats offense too, so
Speaker 2: very cool.
Speaker 8: Speaking of Jerry Jones was asked if Ezekiel Elliott not
Speaker 8: being on a team is contributing to some of the
Speaker 8: Cowboys red zone issues early in the season. Here's the
Speaker 8: quote from Jerry Zeke's unique physicalness is a physicalness award.
Speaker 8: Physicalness is always nice to have, It is very good
Speaker 8: to have. We think of physical on short yardage, and
Speaker 8: we probably should. But I do not think that physicalness
Speaker 8: for the running back is contributing to us not getting
Speaker 8: in the end zone. It is not. I agree with this.
Speaker 8: I'm going to start here. I agree with this because
Speaker 8: I think the issues in the past game are predicated
Speaker 8: around or excuse me, the issues in the red zone
Speaker 8: game are predicated around the past game. They're just not
Speaker 8: getting guys involved. I think I did. I cracked the
Speaker 8: numbers on it earlier this week, but dak is thirteen
Speaker 8: for thirty or something in that range in the red zone,
Speaker 8: not getting guys involved. Brandon Cooks is yet to have
Speaker 8: a red zone reception. Ceedee Lamb as yet to really
Speaker 8: get going in the red zone as well. No receiver
Speaker 8: touchdowns across the board, but that's definitely important when you
Speaker 8: get down in the red zone. So it's mainly been
Speaker 8: running the ball that has found the most success. I
Speaker 8: don't think Zeke not being here has been the biggest
Speaker 8: catalyst in that.
Speaker 10: I think if they were constantly getting inside the five
Speaker 10: and that scoring you could definitely point to that. Well,
Speaker 10: it might be a slight contributor. I don't think it's
Speaker 10: a big issue with their problem. The starting receivers not
Speaker 10: having a touchdown catch to the first three games is
Speaker 10: way bigger issue than anything going out with the run game,
Speaker 10: aim and short yardage and Zeke's physicalness.
Speaker 2: And you said yesterday you thought it was less of
Speaker 2: a personnel issue and more of a creativity and a
Speaker 2: scheme standpoint.
Speaker 6: I think they're connected. I don't think you can separate them.
Speaker 7: Like I said, I think what your quarterback does best,
Speaker 7: he needs to run for it. So when you're able
Speaker 7: to run the ball, that opens up things. You know
Speaker 7: in the passing game. Now they can they line up
Speaker 7: and throw the ball. Absolutely they can't. But is that
Speaker 7: how they want to do things?
Speaker 6: Not at all? Yeah, what's next?
Speaker 8: Last note I have from Jerry's hit on the fan
Speaker 8: this morning. He was talking about just red zone in general.
Speaker 8: He said the woes are quote something to note, but
Speaker 8: he doesn't see them as quote a long range concern.
Speaker 8: He said, we got the guys to get it done. Absolutely,
Speaker 8: So it kind of goes hand in hand with what
Speaker 8: we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of goes back and forth and you're
Speaker 2: you're able to look at I.
Speaker 4: Mean, what were the numbers again, I know you had
Speaker 4: charted him you were talking about.
Speaker 8: Let me let me pull it up real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers in the red zone. The fact that
Speaker 2: he said they weren't concerning is kind of concerned me
Speaker 2: because I think it's a concern. I brought that up
Speaker 2: last week whenever, uh, they were going up against the
Speaker 2: Jets and they had to kick five field goals and
Speaker 2: there were just multiple opportunities where they were on the
Speaker 2: doorstep but just couldn't. Actually, I think concerned.
Speaker 6: I think the term concern really is it's not a problem,
Speaker 6: it's it's Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think that's probably the words that's probably more appropriate
Speaker 7: for this particular topic. But I think concerned. It would
Speaker 7: take a coach not having an answer to say concerned.
Speaker 7: I don't believe that they feel like they don't have
Speaker 7: the answer. I just think that they have not executed.
Speaker 7: So to not execute on something that is on paper
Speaker 7: and on film absolutely the right thing to do. Then
Speaker 7: that just comes down to just more reps, which is
Speaker 7: why you hear you hear co coach McCarthy say that
Speaker 7: he was going to put more emphasis on it this
Speaker 7: week because they just need to practice it more and
Speaker 7: be more efficient in it. It's not that what they're
Speaker 7: scheming up isn't working. What they what they schemed up
Speaker 7: and where that three interception that was a great play call,
Speaker 7: just execution was trash.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I wouldn't say after three games into a seventeen
Speaker 10: game season concern. And I think the reason why he
Speaker 10: might have sat or said that he's not concerned is
Speaker 10: also because of how many red zone trips they've had.
Speaker 10: Kind of feeling like, hey, if we keep getting to
Speaker 10: the plate and taking that bats, this thing will eventually
Speaker 10: open up for us.
Speaker 9: I think that's where he's got And then also.
Speaker 10: Because of the players that they have, but you know,
Speaker 10: Cooks and then Gallup having the game that he just did,
Speaker 10: even though it wasn't a loss, that was one of
Speaker 10: the bright spots from that game that showed you that
Speaker 10: that's probably one of the better games he's had since
Speaker 10: he's coming back.
Speaker 9: From the knee injury. Yeah, And for me.
Speaker 10: I just think Ceedee Lamb is top ten wide receiver
Speaker 10: in the league. He's gotten better every single year. I
Speaker 10: find it hard to believe that people are going to
Speaker 10: just routinely keep him from scoring in the red zone.
Speaker 9: I just don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 8: Here's the red zone numbers overall in all three games,
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott is thirteen of twenty eight under fifty percent
Speaker 8: for seventy four yards, three touchdowns in one interception on
Speaker 8: the ground thirty seven carries one hundred and five yards
Speaker 8: and three touchdowns. Dallas is forty percent touchdown percentage, and
Speaker 8: the red zone is tied for twenty seventh in the league.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. We're going to use a baseball
Speaker 2: analogy of getting to the plate and taking it bats.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be hitting four hundred in this
Speaker 2: category specifically. I know if baseball four hundred is a
Speaker 2: massive number. But you talk about in this standpoint, this
Speaker 2: was a team that was one of the best in
Speaker 2: the entire NFL last year in red zone efficiency. You
Speaker 2: got to keep that rolling. You got to get back
Speaker 2: to that and be able to finish off drives. Because
Speaker 2: this offense, it's kind of it goes back to what
Speaker 2: we talked about on Monday. I believe, Isaiah, this offense
Speaker 2: is not built. It's not predicated off of playing from behind.
Speaker 2: This is an offense that likes to play from ahead,
Speaker 2: win time of possession, take the air out of the football,
Speaker 2: move the change. I mean, there's multiple things that it does.
Speaker 2: One of the things that it does not do well
Speaker 2: is charged down the field very quickly and.
Speaker 4: Hit that big time play.
Speaker 2: They can do that, don't get us wrong, but that's
Speaker 2: not what it's built to do.
Speaker 6: No, it's not.
Speaker 7: And I know a lot of people might not be
Speaker 7: able to connect the dots on that. So when we
Speaker 7: talk about this team is not built for, you know,
Speaker 7: big plays, think about Miami. Miami's built for splash plays.
Speaker 7: Like that's what they're built for. They're built for guys
Speaker 7: catching the ball across the middle, wide open and just
Speaker 7: taking off in gasing on everybody.
Speaker 8: Speed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, speed, fastest guys in the league. Literally the fastest
Speaker 7: office in the league. So that's a big play team, right.
Speaker 7: That's not to say that they can't do small ball.
Speaker 7: It's just says that's there that place of their favor,
Speaker 7: right to their to their advantage. Dallas is on the
Speaker 7: other side of that. Dallas has the ability to still
Speaker 7: make those splash plays. But that's not what they rely on. Right,
Speaker 7: you go back to kelling Moore. I feel like killing
Speaker 7: Moore relied on those big plays, which is why he
Speaker 7: took more risk. Coach McCarthy's a lot more what's the
Speaker 7: word I'm looking for, just blacked out conservative?
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 6: Conservative.
Speaker 7: Okay, So coach McCarthy is a lot more conservative, right,
Speaker 7: He's he wants to just ease his way down there,
Speaker 7: and then he'll splash in some shots just to keep
Speaker 7: you on right or just to give his guys on opportunity.
Speaker 6: But he wants to be more methodical.
Speaker 7: You know, it plays to their advantage and plays an
Speaker 7: entire structure of this team, not just offense.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the red zone issue would be has become a
Speaker 10: little bit of a more focus for me because I
Speaker 10: didn't think the defense was capable of playing as poorly
Speaker 10: as they did. So when they were having the red
Speaker 10: zone issues, there was a part of me was like,
Speaker 10: I mean, probably only need to score twenty twenty five
Speaker 10: a game to win most of these games. But then
Speaker 10: when you let the Cardinals do that, that changes a
Speaker 10: little bit of my thinking. And there's going to be
Speaker 10: some other games where they're going to have to score
Speaker 10: thirty to win, and coming into the season, even after
Speaker 10: these first two games, I didn't think that was going
Speaker 10: to be the case. I didn't think that you need
Speaker 10: thirty to win really any of these games. But now
Speaker 10: that's definitely changed for me.
Speaker 8: Points goes hand in hand with my very final note
Speaker 8: here on news and notes. Does anyone want to guess
Speaker 8: when the Cowboys do not score twenty or more points
Speaker 8: in their last twenty one contests? Do you know the record? So,
Speaker 8: anything less than twenty one points, anything less than twenty
Speaker 8: twenty points in their last twenty one contests five and sixteen.
Speaker 2: I'll say. I'll say it's a little bit better than that.
Speaker 2: I'll say like seven and thirteen. That's twenty Oh, that's
Speaker 2: twenty one, twenty one contest seven and fourteen, matth It's hard.
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember twenty and twenty one.
Speaker 5: I kept putting it.
Speaker 9: I honestly have no ideas. I'll just split it in
Speaker 9: the middle and say six wins.
Speaker 8: Oh in twenty one? Oh wow, they have twenty one
Speaker 8: straight games when not scoring twenty or more.
Speaker 2: I hate so wow.
Speaker 8: I found that quite interesting.
Speaker 6: That is interesting.
Speaker 8: Found that stout yesterday.
Speaker 2: So for a team that's been predicated off of defense
Speaker 2: over the last two years, three years.
Speaker 4: Really wow, that's shocking.
Speaker 2: To me, honestly to see that it is a team
Speaker 2: that is, oh, in twenty one, it is a team
Speaker 2: that is spent for the last decade plus much more
Speaker 2: money on their offense.
Speaker 10: That's true on their defense. It's very clear when you
Speaker 10: go to one of those sites that where the money
Speaker 10: is being spent, and now it's you know, Biggs got
Speaker 10: his deal, Michael get his it is you know, it'll
Speaker 10: shift a little bit there, but it's pretty obvious where
Speaker 10: the focus is.
Speaker 2: But twenty one games, I mean that's a season and change.
Speaker 2: I mean that's one season and change. And throughout the
Speaker 2: last two seasons, what if we looked at as the
Speaker 2: identity of the of the Dallas Cowboys' Yeah, the defense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's certainly what's set the tone. Yeah, I know where
Speaker 2: the money spent completely. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 9: The head coaches that have been hired the last two.
Speaker 8: Offensive so yeah, the last time they scored less than
Speaker 8: twenty one a game November twenty ninth, twenty eighteen, Thursday
Speaker 8: Night football game against the Saints, thirteen to ten. If
Speaker 8: you all remember that one.
Speaker 6: I do remember that.
Speaker 8: It was a very weird game, was for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 8: twenty one contest since then that they have scored twenty
Speaker 8: or less points? Took the ill?
Speaker 2: Is that the game where Jalen Smith stopped Alvin Kamara
Speaker 2: at the goal line?
Speaker 4: A couple of times?
Speaker 2: You remember that? Was that at at and.
Speaker 10: T Jalen Smith stopping I want to say Jehan Watson
Speaker 10: at the goal line?
Speaker 9: I remember that a little bit again, we'll have to.
Speaker 2: It was the Houston game he stopped him. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: what it was who stopped Alvin Kamara at the goal line?
Speaker 2: And was it not Jalen Smith might have been?
Speaker 4: Was it Layton?
Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah, I remember, I'll there's yeah, there's there's definitely
Speaker 2: a play in there somewhere. All right, let's take our
Speaker 2: first break when we come back. We're going to take
Speaker 2: a look around the National Football League with our guy
Speaker 2: John Machota. We have some national storylines to hit, and
Speaker 2: we'll get our reaction to that with more talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 8: Church and Day McCrae. Patrick Walker can definitely not cover me.
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Speaker 7: see us because when we went out on the field
Speaker 7: and broke down some some coverages. We did a walk
Speaker 7: through for a pregame live last year. No, c looked
Speaker 7: uncomfortable and then what he looked on comfort?
Speaker 2: He was He was not uncomfortable. He looked on I
Speaker 2: can't say what he was.
Speaker 6: I can say what he looked like.
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable. You don't want this?
Speaker 7: No sea, all right, No see on your podcast.
Speaker 2: What I said that to? That was my response and said,
Speaker 2: who's getting the ball out there to Derek. Don't have
Speaker 2: no hate, he said, QB option all day, QB. I
Speaker 2: can't do it all goy, there we go.
Speaker 6: They have a zero channel.
Speaker 2: If you missed the show at the start of the show,
Speaker 2: then just go back and listen to it on iTunes
Speaker 2: and well that'll catch you up.
Speaker 6: They might be on the same level as Mike shots
Speaker 6: Tony terms out.
Speaker 8: In terms of hey, hey, do not doubt Mickey's athletic ability.
Speaker 2: That man's got a cannon.
Speaker 8: That man biked like ten miles every day. He's way
Speaker 8: more out of.
Speaker 7: Dearry Eagleton runs seventy two hundred miles per week, but
Speaker 7: that doesn't help him in football.
Speaker 2: What a number? All right, John, this is a new
Speaker 2: segment we're gonna do every Wednesday. Let's go national storylines
Speaker 2: with John Matchoda and this could be anything from the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys or it could be anything outside of the
Speaker 2: Cowboys in the NFL and the NFC East. Just kind
Speaker 2: of wherever you want to take it, where do you
Speaker 2: want it to start us off?
Speaker 10: I'm starting off with the NFL in general, and just
Speaker 10: coming off of this weekend with that Dolphins win. There's
Speaker 10: three teams right now that are undefeated left in the NFL,
Speaker 10: and it's the Dolphins, Eagles, and Niners. Of those three teams,
Speaker 10: how would you rank them in terms of having the
Speaker 10: best chance of winning the Super Bowl? Because the Dolphins
Speaker 10: look great, but to me, they would clearly be third
Speaker 10: out of out of that group because of what they
Speaker 10: would have to go through.
Speaker 9: I think it Eagles, and I think I think the Eagles.
Speaker 10: I think Eagles and Niners right now are the front
Speaker 10: runners to play each other in the NFC Championship Game.
Speaker 10: So that's a good chance that one of those get there.
Speaker 9: I don't I don't.
Speaker 10: I don't like the Dolphins having to go through Buffalo
Speaker 10: and Kansas City or Cincinnati and Kansas City to get
Speaker 10: to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9: I will I will.
Speaker 6: Take Cincinnati today.
Speaker 10: Like Cincinnati, like one, let me give you, let me
Speaker 10: give you, let me give you a good at Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 10: Do you think Cincinnati Bengals last year in the playoffs
Speaker 10: with the same Cincinnati Bengals that the Cowboys beat early
Speaker 10: in the season. Like I'm just I mean, I'm asking,
Speaker 10: are we making our yeah projection?
Speaker 2: Yeah when they're at full oh yeah.
Speaker 9: Full full speed. I'm saying at the end of the year.
Speaker 10: Like, if I'm picking right now, I like, I like
Speaker 10: the NFC teams, those two they have a better shot
Speaker 10: than I think of the Dolphins at the end of
Speaker 10: the year getting through Bengals slash Bills slash Kansas City.
Speaker 10: That's just a tough road and I don't like their
Speaker 10: chances there.
Speaker 6: Okay, so it was not the better team.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, who's again the best chance to win the
Speaker 10: Super Bowl? Out of those three teams that are three
Speaker 10: and oh right now, I'm going with Miami.
Speaker 9: Okay, why is that?
Speaker 7: Because I think that their offense is absolutely explosive. It's
Speaker 7: just it's hard to stop. I McDaniel's is just way
Speaker 7: too creative. And then defensively, by the end of the year,
Speaker 7: they will have some about the name of Jayalen Ramsey
Speaker 7: added to that defense, and their defense is going to
Speaker 7: be nasty as well. So I like them because they
Speaker 7: can score fast and they can defend Philly and forty
Speaker 7: nine ers have more in the trenches. I don't think
Speaker 7: Canna City has figured themselves out yet. I don't think
Speaker 7: that Cincinnati will will even figure themselves out by that point.
Speaker 7: I don't think Burrows will be healthy at any point
Speaker 7: in time this year. I think that calf is going
Speaker 7: to be a lingering lation for him.
Speaker 2: I I'm under the impression that Miami is.
Speaker 6: I gotta be careful how to say this.
Speaker 4: They're not a fraud.
Speaker 9: I think you're gonna say they're.
Speaker 2: Overrated's fine, Yeah, I think overrated's fine. They've got speed, sure,
Speaker 2: but tell me one thing that they do better other
Speaker 2: than speed then.
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers. Tell me what do they do
Speaker 4: better than the forty nine ers other than the speed?
Speaker 6: More space, that's speed, that's not just speed.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel and Christian mccafferre as expos as anybody.
Speaker 8: They have more guys that they they get more guys open,
Speaker 8: and I think that's they have a better quarterback Kyle.
Speaker 4: You're saying Kyle Shanahan's not creative on office.
Speaker 6: He's not as creative as me Daniels, not at all.
Speaker 4: But you and you don't think I would trust Kyle,
Speaker 4: and I'll take two.
Speaker 6: I'll take two all day long.
Speaker 10: But hold on, if you're gonna bring up the Joe
Speaker 10: Burrow thing, then I gotta say, then you're also betting
Speaker 10: on two to stay healthy all season.
Speaker 2: Yes, you are.
Speaker 9: You're bettingly.
Speaker 2: If the Bengals are full speed, I'm taking the Bengals
Speaker 2: over the Dolphins any day. Same thing with the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Chiefs are full steam, even with the wide receiver questions
Speaker 2: that they've had. If they figure things out from a
Speaker 2: pass catcher standpoint, give me the Chiefs over the Dolphins.
Speaker 6: I don't feel I don't fear Cincinnati.
Speaker 8: For me, I'm gonna split them right down the middle.
Speaker 8: Split the NFC teams right down the middle. I'm going Philly, Miami,
Speaker 8: San Francisco. I think Philly, with the addition of DeAndre
Speaker 8: Swift has it's it's gonna be.
Speaker 6: Offense.
Speaker 8: Excuse me, but this current office that they have, I mean,
Speaker 8: if they're if they're not forcing to throw the ball
Speaker 8: on first and second down, every every drive out. Then yeah,
Speaker 8: they'll they'll have it figured out.
Speaker 2: It's not a question I think I would do. I
Speaker 2: think I would go Sam Francisco, Philly than Miami. Those
Speaker 2: would be my three.
Speaker 9: That would be mine as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 2: Where I would hit a head up. Miami is really good,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: Better Miami was really good.
Speaker 6: Miami.
Speaker 10: Miami having to go through those two teams at the
Speaker 10: AMC and then beat the Niners, like, hey, do.
Speaker 2: It have fun?
Speaker 9: Gett go get them?
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's all you.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is Philly and the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers have at least been there before with considerable core
Speaker 2: from what their teams are made of.
Speaker 8: Right now, I'm telling you this.
Speaker 2: I was like, Miami has never been close.
Speaker 8: I was looking at the offense for Miami. I think
Speaker 8: that was what is today Wednesday. It was on Monday
Speaker 8: because I wanted to go back and see how how
Speaker 8: somebody gave up seventy points in an NFL game, and uh,
Speaker 8: I was looking around at those weapons and I was like, man.
Speaker 7: They have some and their coach is amazing. Yeah, their
Speaker 7: coach is amazing. He's different. He's a different, dude.
Speaker 8: That Miami is different.
Speaker 2: He's different.
Speaker 7: The reason why he's a head coach is because of
Speaker 7: his ability to get everybody open.
Speaker 10: Who's the last, like real different coach though that won
Speaker 10: that Super Bowl, like on the first time getting in
Speaker 10: the playoffs, making a deep run like that, because I
Speaker 10: feel like all those Sean mcvay's Kyle Shanahan got a
Speaker 10: kind of knock on the door a little before you
Speaker 10: finally get there.
Speaker 6: Why didn't Miami not make the big run last year?
Speaker 9: I think I always think of two will always get hurt.
Speaker 9: That's my mole thing.
Speaker 10: If you tell me they keep building on this and
Speaker 10: to a stays healthy and all that. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 10: That's why I'm bringing them up. I do think they
Speaker 10: have a chance to just that I got to see it,
Speaker 10: just because they haven't been one of those teams that's
Speaker 10: been there really since probably the team that went undefeated.
Speaker 10: I hear and seventy because even with the Dan Marino teams,
Speaker 10: like it was always like, oh, this is so exciting,
Speaker 10: but you're just like, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't like history doesn't really mean no.
Speaker 10: I know, I know, but I do the guys, but
Speaker 10: I will say, though, I do think history speaks a lot,
Speaker 10: and I can stand stan a call me out if
Speaker 10: if anyone's listening, and you can think of one. But like,
Speaker 10: I just can't think of any coach that just boom,
Speaker 10: first time boom and there God, super Bowl got it,
Speaker 10: Like everyone has to knock on the door before they
Speaker 10: get it. I guess maybe Mike McCarthy with those Packers,
Speaker 10: with that Packers team.
Speaker 2: Even he went, yeah, it was a few years, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a couple of times not to the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 2: he had gone to at least a championship game prior
Speaker 2: to that, right, I.
Speaker 9: Don't know if they did.
Speaker 8: He started in six right with the Packers.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, So I mean even like, did Sean Payton
Speaker 10: go right away?
Speaker 15: Was that?
Speaker 10: I know it was early in his time with the Saints,
Speaker 10: but I don't know if it was like right away
Speaker 10: like that. But maybe I'm just to be honest with you.
Speaker 10: I'm just happy that there was some debate on it
Speaker 10: because I thought it was going to be kind of
Speaker 10: a yeah, no one cares.
Speaker 9: It's three teams that.
Speaker 6: I can't wait for that.
Speaker 10: Game, the next one I had for you guys, because
Speaker 10: I feel like we just have to talk about it
Speaker 10: because it's such a big deal right now. I'm Jerry
Speaker 10: was on the radio and this can be just real quick.
Speaker 10: But I'm just wondering your guys thoughts on do you
Speaker 10: think if this Taylor Swift stuff keeps building that any
Speaker 10: way it could be distraction for the Chiefs? Hmmm, Like
Speaker 10: if she's going at you know, I know she's got
Speaker 10: a tour still going on and stuff like that, but
Speaker 10: where it becomes.
Speaker 9: It has just been the biggest story this first week.
Speaker 10: I think that had over twenty four million viewers for
Speaker 10: that game, and it clearly it wasn't because the Chiefs
Speaker 10: were playing the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 9: It was the most watched game this week, the.
Speaker 10: Four hundred percent Travis Kelce jersey sales having increased.
Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand new Instagram followers for Travis Kelce.
Speaker 10: Like yeah, Like, do you think at all that that
Speaker 10: could be a distraction or because of the fact that
Speaker 10: they are pretty battle tested, had been there, done that
Speaker 10: for the better part of the last five plus years,
Speaker 10: that it won't be.
Speaker 9: The only reason I bring it up is because I remember.
Speaker 10: There was I think Bill Parcells would always say, but
Speaker 10: now he was talking about quarterback, but didn't want celebrity quarterback,
Speaker 10: didn't want all that type of stuff like that. But
Speaker 10: for a tight end like that, do you guys think
Speaker 10: that will be a distraction off of them?
Speaker 6: I know, we had a lot of people dating famous
Speaker 6: people when I was here.
Speaker 2: Nobody cared. Yeah, Romo was swift though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Miles also was dating Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tony, Romo was dating Jessica.
Speaker 2: Nobody cared.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Miles Austin thing just that was a memory
Speaker 2: I did not remember, like I did not think I had,
Speaker 2: but now it just came flooding. But I completely forgot
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 6: Thure.
Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 10: Okay, again, we didn't have to stand that bare line.
Speaker 10: I just wanted to touch on that real quick. The
Speaker 10: other one is because of how badly the Broncos have played.
Speaker 10: I feel like we're in such a time now where
Speaker 10: any like little thing goes wrong all of a sudden,
Speaker 10: everybody's entire career doesn't matter. And Alvis Centerman's questioning Sean Payton,
Speaker 10: and so me selfishly, I just wanted to ask this,
Speaker 10: especially because Isaiah's on the show. So because everyone's already
Speaker 10: downgrading Sean Payton immediately, I've noticed that on a bigger
Speaker 10: scale with who I think is the greatest NFL coach
Speaker 10: ever in Bill Belichick, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 10: it's like, well look what he's done.
Speaker 9: You can't It was all Brady.
Speaker 10: So I've always been a person where, if again this
Speaker 10: is coming from being something that grew up watching just
Speaker 10: some of the worst Lions football.
Speaker 9: I always said that I would rather.
Speaker 10: Have Belichick than Brady because of the fact that I
Speaker 10: don't think Tom Brady with those Matt Millen teams, is
Speaker 10: getting anywhere whereas Bill Belichick can reset the entire thing.
Speaker 10: He's in charge of players, he's in charge of coaching
Speaker 10: the team, I think there's a better chance to turn
Speaker 10: her around with him. But with that being said, Tom
Speaker 10: wins the super Bowl without him. So I wonder what
Speaker 10: your guys percentage is and who is more important With
Speaker 10: the Cowboys about to play the Patriots, what's the percentage
Speaker 10: who was more important to that Patriots dynasty? Tom Brady
Speaker 10: or Bill Belichick? And like, how far away is it?
Speaker 10: Is it fifty to fifty?
Speaker 9: Is it more Brady? Is it more Belichick?
Speaker 4: You were in that room, I want to let you say, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's why I want.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, that's tough, Carreray.
Speaker 7: I have to say Belichick, I mean, as great as
Speaker 7: Tom is. I have to say Belichick is because Tom
Speaker 7: Brady was responsible for him, and Belichick was responsible for
Speaker 7: bringing us, bringing everybody else in and building that complete team.
Speaker 7: So we obviously know how dominant Tom Brady was, but
Speaker 7: there was a defense out there as well, there was
Speaker 7: a special teams out there as well. So I think
Speaker 7: that holistically, Bill Belichick is more important to that entire
Speaker 7: organization than just a Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Would you if you were to ask the same question
Speaker 2: to your teammates, to the guys that were in that
Speaker 2: room with they all say something similar.
Speaker 7: I don't know, I can't what would you think the
Speaker 7: I don't know, I really don't know. There's some guys
Speaker 7: that have some really good relationships with time, so it might
Speaker 7: be swayed that way a little bit different. But I
Speaker 7: mean I think about it from the organizational standpoint, right,
Speaker 7: I mean, they we had some really good defenses out
Speaker 7: there when at least my time that I was there,
Speaker 7: And I mean they got Hall of Famers that were
Speaker 7: on those defenses as well, a good amount of them.
Speaker 7: So actually there's more Hall of Famers on defense in
Speaker 7: New England than there are on offense.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: The way I always looked at it, too, is that
Speaker 10: I think Brady had a lot I mean, Belichick had
Speaker 10: allow to do with, especially developing Brady early on, because
Speaker 10: to your point, like some of those defenses early on
Speaker 10: in Brady's career, you know, they weren't looking at him
Speaker 10: like they were towards the next ten to fifteen years
Speaker 10: where it was like, no, no, we keep him in
Speaker 10: a Tom, Tom can win this game. There was a
Speaker 10: lot more of like that defense was so loaded. Obviously,
Speaker 10: Bill's one of the greatest, if not the greatest, defensive coaches.
Speaker 7: So I mean you just go down the line of
Speaker 7: all the defensive guys that they you could think about
Speaker 7: more polarizing defensive players in New England Kent offensive.
Speaker 2: Does that credit tom Brady though, on how crucial he
Speaker 2: was to the success on the offensive.
Speaker 6: Side of the ball. I mean, yeah, he has a
Speaker 6: lot of I mean obviously, yeah, he's huge.
Speaker 2: I know he's crucial.
Speaker 7: But we're talking about who was the most I'm saying
Speaker 7: I think Belichick was the most important man because you
Speaker 7: don't have You can have a great offense. You could
Speaker 7: be swayed just to the offense just because of Tom
Speaker 7: Brady and then ignore the defense. But you can't because
Speaker 7: Belichick put together one heck of a defense.
Speaker 6: And the reason why we still talk about Belichick the
Speaker 6: way we do today, the.
Speaker 7: Reason why we talk about this defense against the I
Speaker 7: guess the Cowboys because of this defense. Yeah, this defense,
Speaker 7: no matter what, this defense is always solid, tom Brady
Speaker 7: or not.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll say this. Whenever they were together and going
Speaker 8: on those runs, I was a really big hater of
Speaker 8: Tom Brady because I'm a hater naturally, and so I was.
Speaker 8: I was always like this, not as much as No C.
Speaker 8: But this is seventy percent Belichick, thirty percent Brady. If
Speaker 8: you had asked me at that time, that's what I
Speaker 8: would have said. Now, i'd probably say it's closer to
Speaker 8: fifty to fifty.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that last
Speaker 10: one I had. Do we have time for one more?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Real quick?
Speaker 10: Okay, it was the MVP favorites right now your guy too,
Speaker 10: Patrick Mahomes, Hurts and Josh Allen.
Speaker 9: There's a significant drop off of those four are the top?
Speaker 9: Are the top guys right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Right now?
Speaker 4: These are like betting odds fait.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, But so projecting, what would you think who will
Speaker 10: be the MVP by the end of the season at
Speaker 10: this base?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, two, Yeah, I think I would have to say
Speaker 2: two of their two. But you also look at I
Speaker 2: think there's there's like a it's like an anti recency
Speaker 2: bias with Patrick Mahomes, like let's not give it to
Speaker 2: him real straight years. Like I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: that kind of thought process of voting aspects.
Speaker 10: Like with Lebron where you're like there's some many years
Speaker 10: you're like, well, Lebron is the most avaluable player, but
Speaker 10: he didn't put.
Speaker 7: I'm with it, but I take I take the history
Speaker 7: element out. I really like being in black myself, like
Speaker 7: neuralize myself from the past, like based upon right now,
Speaker 7: it's clear it's to a I.
Speaker 10: Wish you were more of a had a vote in
Speaker 10: the stuff because I think that there are too many
Speaker 10: people that do have a say in it.
Speaker 9: That are the opposite of what he is that they
Speaker 9: do have a well you know all.
Speaker 10: This stuff in the past like that. But it is, Yeah,
Speaker 10: it is about this season. It's not about your whole career.
Speaker 10: So yeah, I guess if too, it is on the
Speaker 10: continues on this pace, it'd be hard to give it to.
Speaker 2: Anytheah if the season ended today and that was the
Speaker 2: sample size I would have voted.
Speaker 8: I'll give it a really quick NBA comparison. The last
Speaker 8: two seasons before this last when it was Nicole yokcheld
Speaker 8: have won the MVP. The second year it should have
Speaker 8: been Embiid, But then this year, this past year in
Speaker 8: twenty two twenty three, they just gave it to Embiid
Speaker 8: when really Jokic that was the one he deserved the most.
Speaker 8: So like, yeah, it's weird how voters kind of go
Speaker 8: about those things. For me, right now, on this pace.
Speaker 8: I would have to give it to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, there you go.
Speaker 2: So there's some national storylines with John Mitchoda. I like
Speaker 2: that little change of pace. We talk cowboys a lot.
Speaker 2: We're gonna still talk some cowboys when we come back.
Speaker 2: We're previewing the Cowboys defense versus Ezekiel Elliott and the
Speaker 2: Patriots offense. What is the challenge on both sides of
Speaker 2: the football for that one? When we come back with
Speaker 2: more talking cowboys?
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Speaker 2: To Talking Cowboys. Back here on Talking Cowboys. This segment
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Speaker 2: the Patriots at the Dallas Cowboys three twenty five kickoff
Speaker 2: this week on Fox. We've got Isaiah Standback, John Matchoda,
Speaker 2: Nick Harris, Chris Beam, and the back of Kyle Yeomans. Nick.
Speaker 2: When you look at this matchup, is this your favorite
Speaker 2: unit versus unit matchup?
Speaker 4: The Cowboys defense versus the Patriots offense.
Speaker 2: Of course, we've talked about Ezekiel Elliott in his return,
Speaker 2: and that's going to be a talking point all week.
Speaker 2: But what kind of challenge is on both units to
Speaker 2: try and get the job done there.
Speaker 8: What do you mean my favorite Matt Like, I mean,
Speaker 8: would you rather would you think this is your favorite
Speaker 8: Cowboys defense versus the Patriots or the Cowboys offense? Oh,
Speaker 8: I see excited. I would say that's that's a fun one.
Speaker 8: I would probably say the defense just because there's a
Speaker 8: really good opportunity for them to bounce back this week,
Speaker 8: and it's they have some similar weapons as Arizona does
Speaker 8: and the fact that they really like to use their
Speaker 8: tight ends. New England has to these first three games,
Speaker 8: so there's gonna be a little bit of the same there.
Speaker 8: Even though Arizona didn't really use the tight ends last Sunday,
Speaker 8: they have they have had the history of doing that
Speaker 8: this season. So similar type weapons, but also just being
Speaker 8: able to go up agains. Zeke. I think that's gonna
Speaker 8: be a challenge that everyone's going to be really excited about.
Speaker 8: Ramondre Stevenson is also a healthy challenge in his own right.
Speaker 8: You know, you got guys like Kenrick Bourne in the
Speaker 8: Receiving Corps, Juju Smith Schuster who you know, depending on
Speaker 8: who you ask, you know still has the Jews, doesn't
Speaker 8: have the Juice. But regardless, he's already up to uple
Speaker 8: digit receptions this year. So I think there's there's some
Speaker 8: interesting challenges that present themselves, but I think this defense
Speaker 8: has a really good opportunity to bounce back.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree with a lot of that.
Speaker 10: I mean, there isn't like that one receiver that really
Speaker 10: stands out like a CD Lamb.
Speaker 9: It's kind of a group thing with them.
Speaker 10: More so the thing when I look at their offense,
Speaker 10: I just wonder how much are they going to try
Speaker 10: and do more with Zeke with him playing in this
Speaker 10: game against the Cowboys or are they going to try
Speaker 10: and keep it the same way as they have And
Speaker 10: that I just wonder, especially if they get in the
Speaker 10: red zone, are they going to do anything more so
Speaker 10: with Zeke, like just because of how big this game
Speaker 10: is for him and things like that. Doesn't seem like
Speaker 10: that's a Belichick thing to do. But that is one
Speaker 10: area where I'll keep my eye on. And then you
Speaker 10: know Hunter Henry good tight end Kaseki. I mean, they've
Speaker 10: they've invested in that position certainly, but kind of like
Speaker 10: the Cardinals are, just there aren't a lot of those
Speaker 10: pieces that just jump out at me.
Speaker 9: Like, man, you got to shut down.
Speaker 10: Like like for Bill Belichick, I feel like he's going
Speaker 10: to go out of his way to try and shut
Speaker 10: down ceedee lamb. I don't really look at this offense
Speaker 10: and go when you have to take this one player
Speaker 10: away or everything.
Speaker 9: They kind of come at you from a lot of
Speaker 9: different spots.
Speaker 6: I know Billy O'Brien all too well. I said in
Speaker 6: the room with him.
Speaker 7: He was my quarterback coach and my officsive coordinator when
Speaker 7: I was in New England.
Speaker 2: You know all these guys.
Speaker 6: Well, he brings the same guys back. He likes consistency.
Speaker 7: He rotates between two offices of coordinators only so being
Speaker 7: that ones ahead coach.
Speaker 6: Now he brought the other one back.
Speaker 7: But Billy O'Brien is the most intense offensive coordinator I've
Speaker 7: ever been around, Not even a question. This dude drinks
Speaker 7: drinks energy drinks and is the most jacked up. I mean,
Speaker 7: you guys probably remember him from Hard Knocks in Houston.
Speaker 7: He's intense and he's competitive as as all get out.
Speaker 7: It's one of the reasons why he had to leave,
Speaker 7: because him and Tom Brady were so competitive that they.
Speaker 9: Remember that on the sideline A couple of times.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know a lot more. Yeah, there was a
Speaker 7: lot of intense conversations. He's he is that intense of
Speaker 7: a guy. He's going to be jacked up for this
Speaker 7: game and he is going to have all his bag
Speaker 7: of tricks. The only thing that's hindering this offense has
Speaker 7: been their quarterback play. They have a lot of resources.
Speaker 7: To your point, they're not going to highlight just one guy.
Speaker 7: That's not what he does. This was the most complicated
Speaker 7: offense I had ever been in in my entire life.
Speaker 6: There you do.
Speaker 7: There's hardly any guys that line up and just have
Speaker 7: one route that they're supposed to run. So when I
Speaker 7: mentioned things in the past in terms of Zeke having
Speaker 7: to recoverages and what some of the things Kellen Moore
Speaker 7: was trying to do last year in the first half
Speaker 7: of the season that was causing a lot of miscommunication
Speaker 7: issues between CD and DAK and wherever somebody's supposed to
Speaker 7: be Do I break in, do I break out?
Speaker 6: This is that offense.
Speaker 7: So these guys are always in a position to run
Speaker 7: a route that puts them in an open position based
Speaker 7: upon what the coverages. So dan Quinn's going to have
Speaker 7: to be on his game. I'm just telling you straight up,
Speaker 7: I don't regardless of the fact they don't have a dude,
Speaker 7: these guys always have options based upon the coverages that
Speaker 7: you run. So if you don't disguise your coverages, if
Speaker 7: you just line up and play it as it is,
Speaker 7: don't think that you just go talent on talent. I
Speaker 7: think that you're just gonna win this matchup every single time.
Speaker 7: That's not going to be the case. You would get
Speaker 7: out schemed.
Speaker 8: This is a big prove it game for the defense
Speaker 8: because if they don't show up like like you said,
Speaker 8: it could be, it could be a nightmare. And then
Speaker 8: they're looking at two and two going into San Francisco
Speaker 8: and going into La like that's they can either come
Speaker 8: out of this two and four or five and one
Speaker 8: or yeah, my master, right, five and one or two
Speaker 8: and four. This is a big turning point this game,
Speaker 8: and I feel like this defense specifically is going to
Speaker 8: be challenged quite a bit to those points that you
Speaker 8: just said, So you know we're going to see, We're
Speaker 8: gonna see.
Speaker 10: I expect the defense to bounce back though, with the
Speaker 10: way that they played to put on film, what they
Speaker 10: put out there, I would be surprised if they looked
Speaker 10: anything like that against the way they played against the Cardinals.
Speaker 10: And that starts with Michael Parsons, Like I expect him
Speaker 10: to have a bounce back game.
Speaker 6: I totally agree.
Speaker 7: I just I'm speaking to the to the man that's
Speaker 7: responsible for their offense. He whatever you put on film,
Speaker 7: he is going to try. He will run you into
Speaker 7: the ground like and try to embarrass you, darn bland.
Speaker 7: He's coming at you. I'm telling you right now, like
Speaker 7: right now, to prove a point, and he will right
Speaker 7: He would throw the ball at you every single time
Speaker 7: until you prove that you can stop him. He is
Speaker 7: that type of dude, j Ron curse. You haven't been
Speaker 7: tested yet. He will test you to see. He's gonna
Speaker 7: he's gonna look at his guy here. He's gonna say, hey,
Speaker 7: head up, like it up and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: like straight up, he tell that's the type of dude
Speaker 7: He's gonna say you. He's gonna curse you out and
Speaker 7: challenge you at challenge your manhood and say can can
Speaker 7: he stop you?
Speaker 6: Straight up and down?
Speaker 7: I'm coming I'm coming at you with the ball And
Speaker 7: that's what you're gonna have, so you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 7: get tested in regard and if the defense line gives
Speaker 7: up any kind of running room, he will run the
Speaker 7: ball every single time. And Coach Belichick will get in
Speaker 7: his ear I've been on the earpiece with him and
Speaker 7: say run it, run it, run it, and they will
Speaker 7: run the ball fifteen times on a drive until you
Speaker 7: till you show that you can stop it.
Speaker 2: I expect there to be a bounce back to especially
Speaker 2: from the defensive side. Like you said, John, I I
Speaker 2: don't think. I think they were offended and the way
Speaker 2: that they played in the way that they watched the
Speaker 2: film back. I mean even talking with OsO on Monday,
Speaker 2: dan Quinn, we got to hear from him as well.
Speaker 2: Like they they are not happy with the way that
Speaker 2: they played, and deservedly so. It wasn't their best game
Speaker 2: and they know that.
Speaker 4: The thing I'm going back to Nix's point.
Speaker 2: I was asked this on the radio this morning, is
Speaker 2: is this a must win game.
Speaker 4: For the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is a must win because of course,
Speaker 2: like it's it's early in the season, but from a
Speaker 2: from a week well, go ahead, yeah, let me finish
Speaker 2: from a week four standpoint, it's about as high as
Speaker 2: a must win as you could possibly have because if
Speaker 2: you do go too and two against San Francisco, you'd
Speaker 2: lose that game. You're at two and three, then you
Speaker 2: could be at two and four after that. I mean
Speaker 2: you're looking at the bye week being a complete reset,
Speaker 2: a WUSA in a bad way.
Speaker 10: I mean, it could be you just catch up on
Speaker 10: it that back end when you go Buffalo Miami.
Speaker 4: Just knock it all out.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like twenty eighteen when they went to the
Speaker 8: bye week, like three and four or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was, it would be it would be down. It's
Speaker 2: not a must win because you're not in a playoff
Speaker 2: or you go home atmosphere like, it's not a must win.
Speaker 4: But it's very close to being that at week four.
Speaker 2: If the if you if they lose this week, Isaiah,
Speaker 2: why you're looking at me, they're in trouble if they
Speaker 2: lose this week? Are they going to miss the playoffs?
Speaker 2: You can't say that.
Speaker 4: So it's not a must win.
Speaker 7: So when we say must win, it's way too much.
Speaker 7: Absolutely correct, for their psychology, for their for their for
Speaker 7: their for their mental this is a must win.
Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely but it's not a must win from a
Speaker 2: probability still not at all.
Speaker 6: That's why we have to be very specific about how we.
Speaker 7: How we apply that term. From their mentality, they have
Speaker 7: to have this game now and they are going to there.
Speaker 7: The defense has to be dominant, I'll put it that way.
Speaker 7: The defense has to be dominated this game. We'll talk
Speaker 7: about their defense because this is another bass to the
Speaker 7: wall defense line across the board.
Speaker 6: They don't stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's not really the weaponry that you look at.
Speaker 2: I mean there wasn't really last week with Arizona either,
Speaker 2: but there's not really a weaponry with this Patriots offense
Speaker 2: that scares you if you're the Dallas defense.
Speaker 10: Right, that scares me more than the Cardinals one did,
Speaker 10: which is the Cardinals one. They had a bunch of
Speaker 10: guys there that were doing some things that you're just like,
Speaker 10: he'll remember that game for a long time.
Speaker 2: But they had speed on the outside, they had the
Speaker 2: scheme like there were things that the Cardinals did. It's
Speaker 2: more of a it's a completely different attack from a
Speaker 2: Patriots standpoint though, right.
Speaker 7: Totally, dude, this is cerebral. This is going to be
Speaker 7: straight cerebral. So again, if you show any weakness, that's
Speaker 7: where they're going. They're attacking that weakness. But anybody and
Speaker 7: everybody can get the ball on this team. It's not
Speaker 7: about one guy. They don't care. I mean, look at
Speaker 7: the history. I mean, you could be a seventh running
Speaker 7: back on the depth chart and you're still gonna run
Speaker 7: a touchdown. You know, like it doesn't They don't care
Speaker 7: who gets the credit. They really don't. This is all
Speaker 7: about team out there running.
Speaker 8: I mean run.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 10: That's been for most of Belichick's time in a way.
Speaker 10: I mean, I know they obviously had the grond Gears
Speaker 10: and the time with Randy Moss, but for the most part,
Speaker 10: it has been spreading it around to a bunch of
Speaker 10: different guys that you really don't know from week to week,
Speaker 10: and even going to some of those Super Bowls, like
Speaker 10: you would go in thinking that, okay, well you got
Speaker 10: to take away Edelman or something like this, and next
Speaker 10: thing you know, he's you know, they're throwing fifteen to
Speaker 10: twenty passes to the running backs in the flat, you know.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 10: I just I think this matchup is a better fit
Speaker 10: for the Cowboys than the way the Cardinals played, But
Speaker 10: I keep going back to I'm just stunned that that
Speaker 10: Cardinals group of weapons did what they did against this defense.
Speaker 7: And to your point, Stevenson, the running back has the
Speaker 7: fourth most targets on this team, in the third most
Speaker 7: yards receiving.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, utilized.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: They don't care.
Speaker 8: And tight ends and running backs like that's that's their
Speaker 8: bread of bane.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, That's why I say, look how.
Speaker 8: Much they've invested in receivers throughout the year.
Speaker 6: Yah curse, get on your horse like you better strap
Speaker 6: your ankles up, just.
Speaker 4: Like the players lounge when they play us seven on seven.
Speaker 5: Ooo, wear braces, baby.
Speaker 2: That does it for us. Here on Talking Cowboys Tomorrow,
Speaker 2: we'll have Isaiah's QB vision, the.
Speaker 4: Scouting report of the Patriots defense.
Speaker 2: We'll look ahead to the Pats and the Cowboys three
Speaker 2: twenty five kickoff on Fox on Sunday for Chris Bean,
Speaker 2: Isaiah's stand back, John Machoda, Nick Harris, and Kyle Yoman
Speaker 2: saying so long from the Star in Frisco. We'll see
Speaker 2: tomorrow with more Talking Cowboys.
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