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Speaker 1: be silly, Stephen Miller. You're taking the fall. The fall

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Speaker 1: for contemptive court in the Kilmar Abrego Garcia and the

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Speaker 1: may be jailed for contemptive court in each is Stephen Miller. Ah,

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Speaker 1: that's a shame, not Stephen Miller. The picture is clarifying slowly,

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Speaker 1: the focus is sharpening painstakingly. But it seems evident now

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Speaker 1: that contempt cases being built by District Judges Jeb Bosberg

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Speaker 1: abduction of mister Abrago Garcia and the renditioning of dozens

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Speaker 1: plane to not take off. The slow, methodical attempt to finally,

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Speaker 1: at long last, about damn time, holds somebody in the

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Speaker 1: Trump crime administration responsible for something. This whole move to

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Speaker 1: put somebody behind bars is in both courts targeting Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 1: The finding by Judge Bosberg of probable cause for contempt

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Speaker 1: is the architect of the deportation scheme, and Miller is

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Speaker 1: the architect of its essential baseline component of cruelty. The

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Speaker 1: man who has allegedly hated Hispanics since a girl he

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Speaker 1: the architect of the scheme to disobey the district court

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Speaker 1: for him by getting louder and getting angrier and getting

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Speaker 1: more monstrous. The man behind whatever step towards ethnic cleansing

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Speaker 1: is next is clearly Stephen Miller. It sure looks like

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Speaker 1: Judges Bosberg and Zennis want to put this ass behind bars.

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Speaker 1: NBC News quote one figure seems to have more responsibility

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Speaker 1: former Judge John E. Jones, the third now president of

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Speaker 1: show of contempt for the court, rife with dishonest behavior,

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Speaker 1: and I think Bosberg is entirely right to vindicate the

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Speaker 1: authority of the court and commence these contempt proceedings. In

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Speaker 1: the case of Judge Zennis, she's not there yet. What

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Speaker 1: she's doing in stages is attempting to test the government's compliance.

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Speaker 1: From one of my favorite analysts, Brian Foutler of Off Message, quote,

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Speaker 1: most shrewd observers suspect that the contemner, the person who

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, the monstrous TWRP fascist who conceived of Trump's

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Speaker 1: DOJ not to try a contempt case against Miller or

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Speaker 1: anyone else in his administration. A judge might then invoke

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Speaker 1: Zennis quote a Marxist judge who now thinks she's president

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Speaker 1: El Salvador. I do not know. But it turns out

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Speaker 1: Miller has done more than just insult judges and defy

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Speaker 1: their orders. The website TPM notes quote, a think tank

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Speaker 1: founded by Stephen Miller, sued Chief Justice John Roberts and

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Speaker 1: the office that administers the Judiciary, claiming that the White

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Speaker 1: people in key roles. So this isn't just Miller and

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Speaker 1: Trump trying to ignore and defy the courts, it's them

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Speaker 1: course not, Levitt's reply ended fascistically. Anyone who is breaking

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Speaker 1: It's Stephen Miller, and of course it's Trump. Trump veering

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Speaker 1: want both these judges to charge Stephen Miller with contempt

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Speaker 1: I do not think it will be what Miller expects

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Speaker 1: Miller will resist rest and it's no longer just judges.

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Speaker 1: The next target of this regime, whose ability to restrain itself,

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Speaker 1: None other than Pam Bondi. Attorney General Senator Dick Durbin

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Speaker 1: Sportsball Center First, Believe it or not, there's still more

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Speaker 1: new idiots to talk about. The roundup of the miss Grants,

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Speaker 1: other worse persons in the world the Bronze worse. It's

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Speaker 1: a tie to Trump robots, White House Press secretary. You

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Speaker 1: can't spell Caroline without le and you can't spell Levitt

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Speaker 1: without lie. Get her quote here. DEI seeks to divide

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Speaker 1: and pit Americans. They gainst each other based on immutable characteristics.

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Speaker 1: President Trump put an end to it. In President Trump's America.

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Speaker 1: Individual dignity, hard work, and excellence are the only things

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Speaker 1: that will determine if you get ahead. Or if you

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Speaker 1: lie on behalf of a psychopath, that'll get you ahead, Caroline.

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Speaker 1: Or if you get a full scholarship to play a

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Speaker 1: softball at Saint Anselm's. Or if you're an idiot but

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Speaker 1: you have a television smile and you look like the

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Speaker 1: beer waitress on the bottle of Saint Paul Girl Beer,

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Speaker 1: in which case, you, Caroline Levitt, are a different kind

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Speaker 1: of dei hire, aren't you. She's tied with somebody who

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Speaker 1: could challenge Levitt for dumbest by their own definition dei hire.

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Speaker 1: In the Trump junta, Laurie Chavez de Rimmer, the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Labor, or more correctly, the Secretary of ripping off

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Speaker 1: labor the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, issued a statement

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Speaker 1: correctly excoriating Trump for the tariff hallucination and the unnecessary

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Speaker 1: trade wars that will essentially shut down America's ports in

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Speaker 1: the next few months and get a lot of longshoremen

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Speaker 1: and warehouse people fired because, as the statement ended of

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Speaker 1: quote a president's whims unquote. Secretary Chafez de Rimmer was

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Speaker 1: a memorized statement about how the Longshoreman's Union was essentially

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Speaker 1: in agreement with Trump because they all wanted great trade.

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Speaker 1: It's technically true. It's true in the same sense that

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Speaker 1: I am in agreement with Trump because both of us

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Speaker 1: want air so we don't stop breathing and die. I

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Speaker 1: prefer to make efforts to have clean air. Trump prefers

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Speaker 1: to have efforts to have poisonous air because he makes

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Speaker 1: money off of it. But we degree we want air.

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Speaker 1: But when anchor Pamela Brown kept hitting that one phrase,

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Speaker 1: a president's whims, it was clear Secretary of Chavez Duremer

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Speaker 1: didn't know what the word whims means. Brown said, whims,

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Speaker 1: and it's nice to see a newsperson, especially on CNN,

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Speaker 1: who is still astonished by the twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: hot and cold running bullshit coming out of this dictatorship.

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Speaker 1: Raymer replied that quote sounded exactly in line with the president,

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Speaker 1: to which CNN's Brown replied, in frustrated astonishment, they're criticizing him.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, as to the secretary, never admit, never apologize,

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Speaker 1: never fail to use your stupidity against them. As in aside,

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Chavez, d Rahmer's great uncle has a star

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Speaker 1: on Hollywood Walk of Fame, in part because in a

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Speaker 1: Disney film once he played a tree squirrel. The runner

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Speaker 1: your runner up, you could speak better than I could,

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Speaker 1: That's for sure, the runner up. Speaking of tree squirrels.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Waters, the Fox guy with the skeletons in his

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Speaker 1: closet who hosts the eight PM show, Not the one

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Speaker 1: with the skeletons in his closet who hosts the five

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Speaker 1: PM show or the midnight show, nor any of the

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Speaker 1: ones who have skeletons in their closet who hosts the

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Speaker 1: other shows. Jesse, the one at eight o'clock, is so

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Speaker 1: dumb that it is remarkable that he's not in the

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Speaker 1: Trump cabinet. The Trump Government of the Undead is so

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Speaker 1: secretive about Doge or Douche or whatever it's called, that

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Speaker 1: they wanted to prosecute people who revealed the names of

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Speaker 1: some of Musk's degenerates who were illegally wiping out entire

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Speaker 1: government departments. But they brought waters At a Fox video

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Speaker 1: crew into the Doge Douche Dungeon, and Musk gave the

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Speaker 1: Fox propaganda addict some fresh crack. He gave them and

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Speaker 1: Jesse Waters a tour of the place. And guess who

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Speaker 1: blew the thing. Waters clipped the video of him and

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Speaker 1: Musk and posted it with this caption exclusive an inside

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Speaker 1: like at the Caves of Bureaucracy with Doge. For several minutes,

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what he meant, an inside like

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Speaker 1: at the Oh that's look, meathead, an inside look, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: an inside look at the caves of bureaucracy. Just read

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Speaker 1: these things aloud before you hit send. It takes a

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Speaker 1: second and it saves you all sorts of typos. Also,

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Speaker 1: don't ever go in a cave with Elon Musk. Just don't.

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Speaker 1: But our winner, Miles Morrell, how much morell do we have?

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Speaker 1: We got Miles Morrell. Miles says he'll be a congressman someday.

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Speaker 1: Right now, though he is a quote reporter unquote with

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Speaker 1: the Daily Cancer Foundation, which for obvious reason in public

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Speaker 1: calls itself the Daily Caller Foundation, but it was launched

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Speaker 1: by Tucker Carlson. It's the Daily Cancer Foundation anyway. Miles

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Speaker 1: doesn't even try. He claims to be a reporter, and

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Speaker 1: yet his homepage photo is him doing two thumbs up

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Speaker 1: in front of a Trump plane. That's two thumbs up,

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Speaker 1: presumably to match the fact that his two eyes are

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Speaker 1: on the two opposite eyes of a sides of his

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Speaker 1: own head. Miles tried to interview Congresswoman Ilhan Omar the

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Speaker 1: other day. I have my problems with the congresswoman, but

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Speaker 1: every time I think they amount to something important, she

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Speaker 1: wins me back over. Listen carefully to Miles trying to

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Speaker 1: do an interview with the congresswoman. Or if you don't

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Speaker 1: like cuss words, A, why are you listening to this podcast?

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Speaker 1: And B, don't listen carefully to this SoundBite congress want Omar.

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Speaker 1: I'm Miles Morale with a Daily Caller News Foundation. Do

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Speaker 1: you think more of your Democratic college should be traveling.

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Speaker 2: To El Salvador to advocate on behalf of the bit

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Speaker 2: to Goo Garcia, I think you should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, what Congress? Who should you? Why me

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Speaker 1: if you're asking any of my questions right now? But

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Speaker 1: here you are. Yeah? Thanks, glorious. If this were every

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Speaker 1: Democrat's answer to the right wing propagandists who try to

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Speaker 1: troll them, simply put, there would be few right wing propagandists. Miles,

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Speaker 1: I'm reminded of the line in Monty Python's Life of

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Speaker 1: Brian when Brian says that to the crowd swarming his home,

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Speaker 1: and they reply, oh how shall we f off? Oh

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Speaker 1: lord morel of the daily Cancer, Today's other worst person

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Speaker 1: in the world.

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Speaker 2: This is sports Senate. Wait, check that not anymore. This

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Speaker 2: is countdown with Keith Ulberman.

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Speaker 1: From six oh four pm prevailing local time in England

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Speaker 1: on the early evening of Thursday May sixth, nineteen fifty four,

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Speaker 1: continuing until the day the man died on March third,

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Not a day went by, probably not an

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Speaker 1: hour went by without somebody congratulating Roger Banister on becoming

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Speaker 1: or having become, or being or forever being or being

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Speaker 1: immortalized by being the first human to run a mile

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Speaker 1: in four minutes or less, the man who broke the

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Speaker 1: four minute mile. Except for one small detail, he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: We cannot now comprehend what a big deal this really was.

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Speaker 1: Neil Armstrong, Times, Charles Lindbergh plus George Washington Maybe. The

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Speaker 1: next day, The New York Times published ten different stories

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Speaker 1: about Roger Banister breaking the four minute mile barrier, plus

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Speaker 1: an editorial. An editorial on the editorial page that asked

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Speaker 1: if anybody in world history would ever do it again?

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Speaker 1: Roger Gilbert Banister began the Times on the front page

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Speaker 1: ran a mile in three minutes fifty nine point four

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Speaker 1: seconds tonight to reach one of man's hitherto unattainable goals.

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Speaker 1: There's just one problem. Not only was Roger Banister probably

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Speaker 1: not the first man to run a mile in less

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Speaker 1: than four minutes, but there is also a lot of

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Speaker 1: evidence that that record was broken in May of seventeen

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Speaker 1: seventy by a guy who sold fruits and vegetables from

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Speaker 1: a push cart on the streets of London, a guy

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Speaker 1: named Parrot. Sixty nine years later, and this is still

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Speaker 1: the most famous run in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: May sixth, nineteen fifty four, on an ordinary spring evening

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Speaker 1: at the if Lee Road Track at Oxford University in England,

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Speaker 1: even as an unfavorable wind worked against him, Roger Banister

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Speaker 1: ran through the tape in three point fifty nine to

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Speaker 1: four and ran directly into not just sports history, but

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Speaker 1: human history, the four minute mile, the first human ever

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Speaker 1: to run that far that fast, like the first man

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Speaker 1: on the moon. No matter how much farther we go,

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Speaker 1: but glory is his, indefinitely, forever, always eternal, immortal. Neil Armstrong,

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Speaker 1: but in shorts or there had already been a four

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Speaker 1: minute mile run in seventeen seventy, And Banister has no

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Speaker 1: more claim to immortality than do you or I. And

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Speaker 1: this is really a story about bureaucracy supporting bureaucracy, and

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Speaker 1: what the experts call recency bias, and a lot of racism.

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Speaker 1: And the story should be about a guy who used

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Speaker 1: to sell fruits and vegetables on the streets of London,

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Speaker 1: and who ran his spare time for money in the

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Speaker 1: decade before the American Revolution. And his name was Parrot,

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Speaker 1: as in look, maby, I know a dead parrot when

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Speaker 1: I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.

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Speaker 1: We begin in the pages of a British book dated

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Speaker 1: from seventeen ninety four, which seems to be for you

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Speaker 1: back to the future fans, a kind of Gray's Sports Almanac.

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Speaker 1: The seventeen ninety four tome bears an amazingly modern title

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Speaker 1: The Sports Magazine, and its chronology of top sports events

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Speaker 1: of recent years past includes for the year seventeen seventy

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Speaker 1: this quote seventeen seventy May ninth, James Parrot a costermonger.

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Speaker 1: A costermonger sold fruits and vegetables from a pushcart on street.

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Speaker 1: James Parrott, a costumonger, ran the length of Old Street viz.

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Speaker 1: From the charterhouse wall in Goswell Street to Shoreditch Church Gates,

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Speaker 1: which is a measured mile, in four minutes. Fifteen guineas

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Speaker 1: to five were betted he did not run the ground

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Speaker 1: in four minutes and a half. So that's it. I

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Speaker 1: am besmirching the immortality of Saint Roger Banister and everything

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Speaker 1: you will see in the newspapers about him over the

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Speaker 1: weekend because of fifty one words about some guy racing

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Speaker 1: against an eighteenth century watch in the year seventeen seventy,

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Speaker 1: and the story wasn't even published until twenty four years later. Seriously, seriously,

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Speaker 1: there is nothing else to say about James Parrott. That

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Speaker 1: snippet from that book is all that researchers have ever

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Speaker 1: found or found out about James Parrott. No obituary, no nothing,

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Speaker 1: no four minute mile, no confirmation he ever existed. Besides which,

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Speaker 1: as every modern sports fan will tell you, the athletes

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Speaker 1: of today are the great, greater, greatest of all time. Goats.

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Speaker 1: If the record book says nobody ran a four minute

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Speaker 1: mile until nineteen fifty four. Of course, the record books

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Speaker 1: are right. Since seventeen seventy, humans have evolved, health has evolved,

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Speaker 1: training has evolved. Why in seventeen seventy you couldn't even

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Speaker 1: accurately measure a mile, let alone measure exactly four minutes. Actually,

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Speaker 1: agricultural chains, designed to resolve who owned what property and

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Speaker 1: where international borders were had been introduced in sixteen twenty

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Speaker 1: and have proved to be at worst only off by

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Speaker 1: around two fifths of an inch over a mile. And

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Speaker 1: if you're saying agracultural chains, you don't use agricultural chains

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Speaker 1: in sports, let me ask you this. What do they

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Speaker 1: use in National Football League games to check whether or

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Speaker 1: not it's a first down? Okay, we're giving them the

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Speaker 1: accuracy of the agricultural chains we still use today in

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Speaker 1: our pro sports. You could measure several blocks of London

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Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy and say from way back there to

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Speaker 1: right over here in front of the church, that is

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Speaker 1: exactly a mile, Governor, But how would you time it

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Speaker 1: four minutes exactly? What? Did they use? A really good

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Speaker 1: sundial No, that had a thing called a chronometer. The

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Speaker 1: chronometer was perfected by seventeen sixty one. You may know

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Speaker 1: the chronometer as a Swiss watch, or as you might

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Speaker 1: also know it a rolex. So this Parrot runs a mile,

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Speaker 1: or maybe he runs a mile plus two fifths of

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Speaker 1: an inch, and he is timed by several guys with rolllexes,

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Speaker 1: and they all have the same score. He did it

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Speaker 1: in exactly four minutes. If you're still not convinced, if

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Speaker 1: you're still googling Roger Banister's descendants so they can sue

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Speaker 1: this idiot Olderman in his podcast, let me emphasize the

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Speaker 1: part that convinced me that a man named Parrot did

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Speaker 1: run a four minute mile two months and four days

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Speaker 1: after the Boston massacre unleashed the events that would culminate

638
00:46:08,275 --> 00:46:12,355
Speaker 1: in the American Revolution. Permit me to reread that last

639
00:46:12,395 --> 00:46:17,515
Speaker 1: sentence about James Parrot's run from Gray's Sports almana I'm sorry,

640
00:46:17,595 --> 00:46:22,075
Speaker 1: from the Sporting magazine of seventeen ninety four. Quote, fifteen

641
00:46:22,115 --> 00:46:25,955
Speaker 1: guineas to five were betted he did not run the

642
00:46:25,995 --> 00:46:30,835
Speaker 1: ground in four minutes and a half. This guy Parrot

643
00:46:31,475 --> 00:46:35,995
Speaker 1: bet on himself and got three to one odds, and

644
00:46:36,035 --> 00:46:38,915
Speaker 1: the five guineas wagered. Here that would be worth about

645
00:46:38,995 --> 00:46:42,555
Speaker 1: fifty five hundred dollars in today's money, meaning this was

646
00:46:42,595 --> 00:46:45,955
Speaker 1: no eighteenth century Roger Banister hoping to break a record

647
00:46:45,995 --> 00:46:48,875
Speaker 1: for Queen and Country. This was a guy who did

648
00:46:48,915 --> 00:46:54,035
Speaker 1: this for money, for the equivalent in winnings of about

649
00:46:54,075 --> 00:46:57,755
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars, at least as much as his annual

650
00:46:57,835 --> 00:47:01,115
Speaker 1: income might have been selling fruits and vegetables from a cart,

651
00:47:01,195 --> 00:47:04,155
Speaker 1: and the way it's phrased in that magazine, we don't know.

652
00:47:04,195 --> 00:47:07,275
Speaker 1: If more than one bet of fifteen guineas to five

653
00:47:07,435 --> 00:47:10,955
Speaker 1: was placed, he might have won thirty four thousand dollars

654
00:47:11,275 --> 00:47:13,635
Speaker 1: or fifty one thousand dollars or five hundred and ten

655
00:47:13,675 --> 00:47:19,515
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Because this was for money, the loser or

656
00:47:19,835 --> 00:47:22,715
Speaker 1: losers who bet he could not finish the race in

657
00:47:22,835 --> 00:47:26,035
Speaker 1: four and a half minutes had to be satisfied that

658
00:47:26,155 --> 00:47:28,475
Speaker 1: he had done it in less than four and a half,

659
00:47:28,515 --> 00:47:31,555
Speaker 1: in this case, in four As we know from our

660
00:47:31,635 --> 00:47:35,715
Speaker 1: own times, losers now like to claim they didn't lose,

661
00:47:36,035 --> 00:47:38,275
Speaker 1: and will go to any length to convince others they

662
00:47:38,275 --> 00:47:41,955
Speaker 1: did not lose. But James Parrott got his money, which

663
00:47:41,995 --> 00:47:46,435
Speaker 1: means that the loser or losers believed James Parrott really

664
00:47:46,555 --> 00:47:50,315
Speaker 1: raised a mile and did it in four minutes. I'm

665
00:47:50,395 --> 00:47:53,995
Speaker 1: sold antiquated books and four minute miles round one hundred

666
00:47:53,995 --> 00:47:56,115
Speaker 1: and eighty three years before the first four minute mile,

667
00:47:56,315 --> 00:47:59,875
Speaker 1: and costermongers and agricultural change. They may come and go

668
00:48:00,555 --> 00:48:05,875
Speaker 1: and may be trustworthy or untrustworthy, but money is money,

669
00:48:07,115 --> 00:48:10,075
Speaker 1: and James Parrott was given the equivalent of his annual

670
00:48:10,155 --> 00:48:14,115
Speaker 1: salary at least once because somebody who thought he could

671
00:48:14,115 --> 00:48:18,275
Speaker 1: not do it agreed, Yeah, I was wrong. He really, really,

672
00:48:18,355 --> 00:48:23,435
Speaker 1: really really did just run the mile in four minutes. Now,

673
00:48:23,715 --> 00:48:26,755
Speaker 1: of course, the whole account in the book could be wrong.

674
00:48:27,635 --> 00:48:29,555
Speaker 1: I'm old enough that I was actually on the air

675
00:48:29,595 --> 00:48:32,795
Speaker 1: doing sportscast on the radio network of United Press International

676
00:48:32,955 --> 00:48:36,675
Speaker 1: on April twenty first, nineteen eighty when Rosie Ruiz quote

677
00:48:36,875 --> 00:48:41,515
Speaker 1: one unquote the Boston Marathon. Then it turned out two

678
00:48:41,555 --> 00:48:44,715
Speaker 1: people had seen Rosy Ruiz burst out of the crowd

679
00:48:44,715 --> 00:48:48,835
Speaker 1: of spectators on Commonwealth Avenue and start running alongside the

680
00:48:48,875 --> 00:48:51,155
Speaker 1: men runners. And then it turned out that while she

681
00:48:51,235 --> 00:48:54,635
Speaker 1: was supposedly completing the nineteen seventy nine New York Marathon,

682
00:48:54,955 --> 00:48:58,195
Speaker 1: she had struck up a conversation with a freelance photographer

683
00:48:58,875 --> 00:49:01,395
Speaker 1: on the subway, and the two of them went to

684
00:49:01,435 --> 00:49:04,515
Speaker 1: the finish line together, and Rosie Ruiz then told officials

685
00:49:04,755 --> 00:49:07,555
Speaker 1: she had just finished the race. And Rosie Ruiz was

686
00:49:07,595 --> 00:49:12,635
Speaker 1: a total fraud in two different marathons. Maybe the seventeen

687
00:49:12,715 --> 00:49:16,835
Speaker 1: seventy four minute mile of James Parrott was just inaccurate.

688
00:49:17,235 --> 00:49:20,435
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just an inside joke or a misheard

689
00:49:20,515 --> 00:49:25,675
Speaker 1: rumor or a typo, or he took the subway with

690
00:49:25,995 --> 00:49:30,075
Speaker 1: Rosie Ruiz, or it was a joke by whoever wrote

691
00:49:30,075 --> 00:49:32,435
Speaker 1: the book. I've told you the story before about the

692
00:49:32,515 --> 00:49:35,715
Speaker 1: nineteen twelve Saint Louis Brown's second baseman named Proctor, and

693
00:49:35,755 --> 00:49:37,955
Speaker 1: nobody could find anything about him. And then it turned

694
00:49:37,955 --> 00:49:41,355
Speaker 1: out Procter was the Western Union operator who used to

695
00:49:41,355 --> 00:49:44,115
Speaker 1: make up all the official scorecards after each game, and

696
00:49:44,155 --> 00:49:45,795
Speaker 1: one day he decided he always wanted to be a

697
00:49:45,875 --> 00:49:48,275
Speaker 1: Major League ballplayer, so he put himself in the scorecard.

698
00:49:48,955 --> 00:49:51,635
Speaker 1: Maybe James Parrott was the author of this the sports

699
00:49:51,715 --> 00:49:56,675
Speaker 1: magazine or his four minute miles and Monty Python jokes go. Now,

700
00:49:56,715 --> 00:50:00,595
Speaker 1: that's what I call a dead parrot. So if it's

701
00:50:00,635 --> 00:50:03,995
Speaker 1: a mistake, if it's a typo, if it's a hype job,

702
00:50:04,275 --> 00:50:08,675
Speaker 1: if it's Rosie Ruiz, if it's Leu Proctor, Roger Banister

703
00:50:08,835 --> 00:50:12,675
Speaker 1: is safe. Now he's not because there was also a

704
00:50:12,755 --> 00:50:16,755
Speaker 1: runner named Powell, and Powell in seventeen eighty seven said

705
00:50:16,795 --> 00:50:18,315
Speaker 1: he could run a mile in four minutes, and he

706
00:50:18,355 --> 00:50:21,635
Speaker 1: wasn't messing around. He bet a thousand guineas that he

707
00:50:21,635 --> 00:50:25,595
Speaker 1: could do it, one point one million dollars in today's money.

708
00:50:26,235 --> 00:50:28,235
Speaker 1: And not only that, but he ran on a famous

709
00:50:28,315 --> 00:50:31,475
Speaker 1: English running track near Hampton Court, and five days before

710
00:50:31,515 --> 00:50:34,715
Speaker 1: Christmas of seventeen eighty seven, he ran a time trial

711
00:50:35,155 --> 00:50:37,235
Speaker 1: so that the gamblers could all come over and see

712
00:50:37,275 --> 00:50:39,795
Speaker 1: what shape he was in and whether they should bet

713
00:50:39,875 --> 00:50:43,195
Speaker 1: for him or bet against him. And he did it

714
00:50:43,235 --> 00:50:46,115
Speaker 1: in the time trial in four minutes and three seconds.

715
00:50:47,155 --> 00:50:49,555
Speaker 1: And when Powell said the betters could see what shape

716
00:50:49,595 --> 00:50:52,755
Speaker 1: he was in, he really meant it. He was dedicated

717
00:50:52,955 --> 00:50:57,075
Speaker 1: to his cause. Five days before Christmas and this guy

718
00:50:57,195 --> 00:51:02,155
Speaker 1: ran a mile naked. All that was in the papers.

719
00:51:03,235 --> 00:51:06,115
Speaker 1: What happened to the actual race, Yes, we don't know that.

720
00:51:06,435 --> 00:51:09,435
Speaker 1: Nobody has ever found that newspaper. Nobody's ever found an

721
00:51:09,475 --> 00:51:12,675
Speaker 1: account of the race. Only the time trial so we

722
00:51:12,795 --> 00:51:15,195
Speaker 1: have to go under the assumption that Powell never did

723
00:51:15,235 --> 00:51:18,995
Speaker 1: better than four to oh three. But once again, Roger

724
00:51:19,035 --> 00:51:22,675
Speaker 1: Banister's four minute mile has withstood the test of time.

725
00:51:23,995 --> 00:51:28,315
Speaker 1: Kinda bah, No, Actually it hasn't. There's also another guy

726
00:51:28,355 --> 00:51:32,235
Speaker 1: named Weller. Weller was famous enough as a professional runner

727
00:51:32,235 --> 00:51:34,075
Speaker 1: of the time that when he said he could run

728
00:51:34,115 --> 00:51:37,315
Speaker 1: a mile on the Banbury Road in Oxford, the newspapers

729
00:51:37,315 --> 00:51:39,355
Speaker 1: of the day all showed up to preview it, to

730
00:51:39,355 --> 00:51:42,035
Speaker 1: talk about his two brothers, who were also professional runners,

731
00:51:42,155 --> 00:51:46,075
Speaker 1: and to cover his attempt on October tenth, seventeen ninety six.

732
00:51:46,115 --> 00:51:49,795
Speaker 1: And there it is in the papers. Weller of Oxford

733
00:51:50,435 --> 00:51:56,675
Speaker 1: runs a mile in three minutes fifty eight seconds, not

734
00:51:56,955 --> 00:52:00,275
Speaker 1: only one hundred and fifty eight years before Roger Banister,

735
00:52:00,595 --> 00:52:04,355
Speaker 1: but a second and a half faster than Roger Banister.

736
00:52:07,075 --> 00:52:09,915
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. If somebody really ran a mile

737
00:52:09,995 --> 00:52:12,595
Speaker 1: in three fifty nine or three fifty eight at the

738
00:52:12,635 --> 00:52:16,555
Speaker 1: time of the American Revolution, wouldn't that stand out as

739
00:52:16,595 --> 00:52:21,155
Speaker 1: such an impossible performance, then, such an anomaly so startling

740
00:52:21,155 --> 00:52:22,995
Speaker 1: that it would be viewed in the same way we

741
00:52:23,075 --> 00:52:26,115
Speaker 1: would view news coming up on Monday, that somebody now

742
00:52:26,315 --> 00:52:29,475
Speaker 1: had just run the mile in three minutes flat. I mean,

743
00:52:29,555 --> 00:52:31,755
Speaker 1: if somebody ran the mile in three minutes flat, we

744
00:52:31,795 --> 00:52:33,595
Speaker 1: would check to see if the guy was a space

745
00:52:33,635 --> 00:52:37,595
Speaker 1: alien or a time traveler. Wouldn't They have been amazed

746
00:52:37,635 --> 00:52:42,275
Speaker 1: on October tenth, seventeen ninety six, disbelieving what they had heard,

747
00:52:44,035 --> 00:52:46,435
Speaker 1: not at all. And that's the second half of the

748
00:52:46,435 --> 00:52:49,355
Speaker 1: story of the day. Roger Banister did not break the

749
00:52:49,355 --> 00:52:53,995
Speaker 1: four minute barrier. Research and computers and simulations show that

750
00:52:54,115 --> 00:52:57,915
Speaker 1: people in the seventeen eighties were consistently running the mile

751
00:52:58,275 --> 00:53:01,955
Speaker 1: in four minutes and eighteen seconds, four minutes and twenty seconds,

752
00:53:01,955 --> 00:53:05,355
Speaker 1: four minutes and fifteen seconds, if the info about is right,

753
00:53:05,915 --> 00:53:09,035
Speaker 1: three minutes and fifty eight seconds. All the time, these

754
00:53:09,115 --> 00:53:11,635
Speaker 1: numbers were being put up by all kinds of runners.

755
00:53:12,435 --> 00:53:15,675
Speaker 1: So a four minute mile would have been great, but

756
00:53:15,755 --> 00:53:20,555
Speaker 1: not out of context, not in seventeen ninety six. And

757
00:53:20,595 --> 00:53:24,075
Speaker 1: then you have to ask, if it happened, where are

758
00:53:24,115 --> 00:53:27,635
Speaker 1: all those records. Who were all those four minute eighteen

759
00:53:27,715 --> 00:53:31,795
Speaker 1: guys and four minute three second guys and three fifty

760
00:53:31,835 --> 00:53:35,835
Speaker 1: eight guys. What happened to the records? Well, see that's

761
00:53:35,875 --> 00:53:41,675
Speaker 1: another scandal. Those eighteenth century records were erased in the

762
00:53:41,755 --> 00:53:47,155
Speaker 1: nineteenth century. Because richer, slower people in the nineteenth century

763
00:53:47,435 --> 00:53:52,355
Speaker 1: wanted to say they held the records, they erased the

764
00:53:52,435 --> 00:53:56,555
Speaker 1: record book. That part of the story, and the additional

765
00:53:56,675 --> 00:53:59,315
Speaker 1: sad truth that much of the claims about Roger Banister

766
00:53:59,635 --> 00:54:14,835
Speaker 1: are really really racist. Next, we know Roger Banister really

767
00:54:14,875 --> 00:54:18,275
Speaker 1: did run a three minute and fifty nine second mile

768
00:54:19,315 --> 00:54:22,595
Speaker 1: on May sixth, nineteen fifty four in England. It was

769
00:54:22,675 --> 00:54:26,275
Speaker 1: timed and announced to a waiting crowd by no less

770
00:54:26,275 --> 00:54:29,795
Speaker 1: a figure than Norris mcwherder, who was later the founder

771
00:54:29,875 --> 00:54:32,515
Speaker 1: or co founder of the Guinness Book of World Records.

772
00:54:32,795 --> 00:54:36,235
Speaker 1: And everybody who was there saw history and was part

773
00:54:36,275 --> 00:54:39,595
Speaker 1: of an impossible dream coming true. And as I mentioned earlier,

774
00:54:39,675 --> 00:54:41,675
Speaker 1: the next day the New York Times actually had an

775
00:54:41,755 --> 00:54:44,875
Speaker 1: editorial asking whether or not anybody would ever do it again.

776
00:54:46,715 --> 00:54:49,915
Speaker 1: There is considerable evidence, as I've laid out here, that

777
00:54:49,995 --> 00:54:54,835
Speaker 1: it was done before, like two hundred years before. But

778
00:54:55,435 --> 00:54:58,235
Speaker 1: if you were still not convinced that, no, no matter

779
00:54:58,275 --> 00:55:00,915
Speaker 1: what else it was, Roger Banister's three minute fifty nine

780
00:55:00,995 --> 00:55:03,915
Speaker 1: point four second mile on May sixth, nineteen fifty four

781
00:55:04,115 --> 00:55:07,635
Speaker 1: was not first four minute mile. If James Parrott and

782
00:55:07,875 --> 00:55:11,875
Speaker 1: the naked runner Powell of Hampton Court and Weller seventeen

783
00:55:11,955 --> 00:55:15,595
Speaker 1: ninety six. Don't convince you there is also this. There

784
00:55:15,635 --> 00:55:19,635
Speaker 1: is a sports historian named Peter Radford, himself the bronze

785
00:55:19,675 --> 00:55:22,875
Speaker 1: medalist in two sprints at the nineteen sixty Olympics in Rome,

786
00:55:23,195 --> 00:55:25,875
Speaker 1: and he brought the story of Parrot and Powell and

787
00:55:25,955 --> 00:55:29,315
Speaker 1: Weller to the forefront in the British press nearly twenty

788
00:55:29,395 --> 00:55:32,795
Speaker 1: years ago. This man found them because he was looking

789
00:55:32,795 --> 00:55:35,635
Speaker 1: for and finding the records of more than six hundred

790
00:55:35,715 --> 00:55:40,435
Speaker 1: running races in the eighteenth and nineteenth century. Running against

791
00:55:40,475 --> 00:55:43,515
Speaker 1: the clock, against each other, usually for money, was not

792
00:55:43,555 --> 00:55:47,395
Speaker 1: only the most popular professional sport in Britain at that time,

793
00:55:47,435 --> 00:55:51,315
Speaker 1: it was also probably the first. And with so many

794
00:55:51,395 --> 00:55:55,355
Speaker 1: races and especially winning and losing times recorded, Peter Radford

795
00:55:55,435 --> 00:55:59,475
Speaker 1: had data to work with. When guys didn't run a

796
00:55:59,515 --> 00:56:01,955
Speaker 1: four minute mile, how fast did they run it? How

797
00:56:01,995 --> 00:56:06,675
Speaker 1: fast were these professionals going the average over other distances

798
00:56:06,715 --> 00:56:10,475
Speaker 1: in say seventeen eighty nine, what was the range of times?

799
00:56:11,475 --> 00:56:14,635
Speaker 1: And his computer looked at all of these races, six

800
00:56:14,755 --> 00:56:17,315
Speaker 1: hundred or so, and all of the times and all

801
00:56:17,355 --> 00:56:20,475
Speaker 1: of the speeds, and it spit out this conclusion. Factoring

802
00:56:20,515 --> 00:56:23,755
Speaker 1: in the margin of error, Radford wrote, the best possible

803
00:56:23,915 --> 00:56:28,475
Speaker 1: one mile time would be anywhere between four minutes, thirteen

804
00:56:28,595 --> 00:56:33,715
Speaker 1: seconds and exactly four minutes. So no, you cannot say

805
00:56:33,835 --> 00:56:37,155
Speaker 1: James Parrott ran the first four minute mile in seventeen

806
00:56:37,235 --> 00:56:40,475
Speaker 1: seventy and Weller ran the first sub four minute mile

807
00:56:40,515 --> 00:56:43,515
Speaker 1: in seventeen ninety six, not with certainty, but I think

808
00:56:43,555 --> 00:56:47,835
Speaker 1: you can say with certainty that somebody did it before

809
00:56:47,875 --> 00:56:51,515
Speaker 1: the year eighteen hundred, and that when Roger Banister crashed

810
00:56:51,515 --> 00:56:54,875
Speaker 1: through the tape at Oxford at six oh four Greenwich

811
00:56:54,995 --> 00:56:58,315
Speaker 1: meantime on the evening of Thursday May sixth, nineteen fifty four,

812
00:56:58,315 --> 00:57:03,795
Speaker 1: and the track announcer Norris McWhorter announced that Roger Banister's

813
00:57:03,795 --> 00:57:06,195
Speaker 1: time in the mile was and he gave it a

814
00:57:06,235 --> 00:57:10,835
Speaker 1: desperately long pause, by all accounts for a minute fifty

815
00:57:10,955 --> 00:57:15,835
Speaker 1: nine unfall ten seconds. The moment that happened, Roger Banister

816
00:57:15,915 --> 00:57:19,515
Speaker 1: became at best the second man to run a mile

817
00:57:19,915 --> 00:57:23,595
Speaker 1: in four minutes or less, but more likely he was

818
00:57:24,315 --> 00:57:28,235
Speaker 1: like the twenty second or the two hundred and twenty second.

819
00:57:30,355 --> 00:57:34,395
Speaker 1: So why why didn't anybody know this? Why did Roger

820
00:57:34,435 --> 00:57:41,035
Speaker 1: Banister live a life of unceasing, undiminished and sorry, undeserved fame.

821
00:57:41,875 --> 00:57:44,755
Speaker 1: And that guy Weller who may have run the race

822
00:57:44,875 --> 00:57:47,635
Speaker 1: a second faster and one hundred and fifty eight years earlier,

823
00:57:47,795 --> 00:57:54,075
Speaker 1: why don't we even know Weller's first name? All sports

824
00:57:54,155 --> 00:57:57,155
Speaker 1: are based on history. Records are made to be broken.

825
00:57:57,235 --> 00:58:00,195
Speaker 1: The older the record, the louder the break. Who screwed

826
00:58:00,235 --> 00:58:04,115
Speaker 1: this up? How did we lose Weller in the nooks

827
00:58:04,155 --> 00:58:08,435
Speaker 1: and cranny of history. We didn't lose them. It wasn't

828
00:58:08,475 --> 00:58:14,315
Speaker 1: an error. It was deliberate. And that's where this gets

829
00:58:14,355 --> 00:58:18,435
Speaker 1: to be a crime. Our historian and ex Olympic runner

830
00:58:18,475 --> 00:58:24,475
Speaker 1: mister Radford quoted another ancient book, British Rural Sports by J. H. Walsh,

831
00:58:24,675 --> 00:58:27,315
Speaker 1: which was published in eighteen eighty eight, and in it

832
00:58:28,035 --> 00:58:32,355
Speaker 1: all the dozens of speed and distant events had two

833
00:58:32,395 --> 00:58:36,395
Speaker 1: sets of records. One for professionals like Parrot and Powell

834
00:58:36,475 --> 00:58:39,635
Speaker 1: and Weller, the ones who ran for money, the ones

835
00:58:39,675 --> 00:58:42,235
Speaker 1: on whom people bet, the ones who bet on themselves.

836
00:58:42,635 --> 00:58:44,835
Speaker 1: There was that set of records, and then another set

837
00:58:44,875 --> 00:58:46,995
Speaker 1: of records which was given far more weight and far

838
00:58:47,075 --> 00:58:52,635
Speaker 1: more importance for the amateurs. By the early twentieth century,

839
00:58:52,715 --> 00:58:57,515
Speaker 1: Radford wrote, the professional records had been erased from these books, expunged,

840
00:58:57,795 --> 00:59:04,315
Speaker 1: not forgotten, removed. Why because the professionals were far better

841
00:59:04,355 --> 00:59:08,235
Speaker 1: than the amateurs. No amateur held the record in the mile.

842
00:59:08,315 --> 00:59:12,755
Speaker 1: It was all professionals, but the amateurs were in charge.

843
00:59:12,955 --> 00:59:16,035
Speaker 1: They were the British upper class. They raced not for money,

844
00:59:16,075 --> 00:59:19,515
Speaker 1: but for sport. So the amateurs simply did what the

845
00:59:19,555 --> 00:59:22,435
Speaker 1: upper class always does in this situation. They erased the

846
00:59:22,475 --> 00:59:25,355
Speaker 1: records of all the professionals. And oh, by the way,

847
00:59:25,475 --> 00:59:30,515
Speaker 1: they also erased all records set by women. The British

848
00:59:30,635 --> 00:59:34,995
Speaker 1: obsession with the superiority of the amateur over the professional.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever seen the movie Chariots of Fire, you

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Speaker 1: already know exactly what I mean. It spread throughout the

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Speaker 1: world through the Olympics. That's why Jim Thorpe lost all

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Speaker 1: his gold medals from the nineteen twelve Games. Why the

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Speaker 1: greatest all around athlete ever died in poverty because he

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Speaker 1: had once played minor league baseball to make some money

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Speaker 1: in the summer, and everybody knew about it, and nobody

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Speaker 1: thought they'd hold it against it, But then they held

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Speaker 1: it against him. He was a professional, so his records

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Speaker 1: did not count like James Parrot or fill in the

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Speaker 1: blank here Powell or I don't remember his first name Weller.

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Speaker 1: So the world record in the mile as of the

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Speaker 1: year eighteen sixty one was credited to a man, an

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Speaker 1: amateur named Matthew Green. Matthew Green was the fastest man

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Speaker 1: in human history four minutes and forty six seconds. Four

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Speaker 1: minutes and forty six seconds. In my twenties, I might

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Speaker 1: have come close to that number. By nineteen thirteen, the

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Speaker 1: International Amateur Athletics Federation had taken over, and it recognized

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Speaker 1: a runner from Cornell, not me, a different runner from Cornell,

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Speaker 1: as the all time outdoor record holder in the mile

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Speaker 1: four minutes and thirteen seconds, John Paul Jones, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty three years after James Parrott. The indoor record

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Speaker 1: in the mile was then held by a man named

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Speaker 1: Abel Kiviat four eighteen and two. I met Abel Kiviat.

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Speaker 1: I interviewed him when he was ninety. I wish I

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Speaker 1: had known about James Parrot. Then I didn't. Abel and

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Speaker 1: I talked about his roommate at the nineteen twelve Olympics,

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Speaker 1: Jim Thorpe got to tell you that story sometime too,

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Speaker 1: But boy, Abel Kiviat and I could have had a

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Speaker 1: conversation about amateurs versus professionals and whether or not his

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Speaker 1: record was actually a record. Anyway, you can see where

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Speaker 1: this is all going, and we are almost at our

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Speaker 1: proverbial finish line. Not only did history forget the great

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Speaker 1: athletes of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries like Parrot and

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Speaker 1: Powell and Weller, who if they did not break the

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Speaker 1: four minute mile, they came damn close and did a

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Speaker 1: lot better than my friend Abel Kiviat did, or my

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Speaker 1: Cornell guy John Paul Jones, to say another, of Matthew

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Speaker 1: Green four minutes and forty six seconds, What did you

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Speaker 1: do stop for lunch? Not only were the remarkable athletes

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Speaker 1: like Parrot and Powell and Weller forgotten, they were buried deliberately.

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Speaker 1: It makes the subject of the Roger Banister four minute

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Speaker 1: mile that everybody celebrates with almost undiminished astonishment every year

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Speaker 1: at this time. It makes all this a little less

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Speaker 1: trivial and a little bit more nefarious and wrong and ugly.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Ugly and Banister, there is one other component

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Speaker 1: to this story. In the nineteen nineties, having been the

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Speaker 1: god of the four minute mile for four decades, having

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Speaker 1: been celebrated every day for breaking a record that was

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Speaker 1: probably broken one hundred and eighty three years before. Roger

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Speaker 1: Banister was asked about the new generation of runners, those

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Speaker 1: of African descent on September twelfth, nineteen ninety five, Sir

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Speaker 1: Roger Banister explained, quote, it's certainly obvious when you see

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Speaker 1: an all black sprint final that there must be something

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Speaker 1: rather special about their anatomy or physiology which produces these

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Speaker 1: outstanding successes. And indeed there may be, but we don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is. Some countries have the good fortune

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Speaker 1: to have a high proportion of black sprinters and hurdlers

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Speaker 1: end quote. Nineteen years later, Banister was still driving right

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Speaker 1: into the Eugenics lane, sounding just enough like Jimmy the

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Speaker 1: Greek Snyder to make you squirm. I love watching people

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Speaker 1: like Usain Bolt, Banister said. The West Africans, of course,

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Speaker 1: have an inbuilt advantage, having been transported as slaves to

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Speaker 1: the West Indies. Only the toughest endured. They have astonishing

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Speaker 1: muscle composition, with those fast fibers and superior genes. I

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Speaker 1: will leave it to you and to his maker. An

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Speaker 1: assessment of how much of Roger Banister was patronizing, how

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Speaker 1: much was him trying to rationalize how his time had

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Speaker 1: been bettered by nearly ten percent, and how much of

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Speaker 1: it was just sheer racism. But I will note that

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Speaker 1: in what Banister said is another reason to believe that

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Speaker 1: the idea that he was the first human to run

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Speaker 1: a four minute mile is laugh out loud ridiculous. What

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Speaker 1: about all of the runners of color over the centuries,

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Speaker 1: over the millennia, in Africa and South America and elsewhere

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Speaker 1: on this globe. By Banister's own disturbing logic, certainly some

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Speaker 1: of them must have beaten him to breaking the four

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Speaker 1: minute tape. No, let me close with this, I don't

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Speaker 1: know for certain who ran the first four minute mile

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Speaker 1: or when. For all we know, it was broken two

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Speaker 1: thousand years ago, and for that matter, so was the

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Speaker 1: present world record of three point forty three point thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Might have been James Parrott or Powell or Weller whose

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Speaker 1: first names we don't know, or someone so lost to

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Speaker 1: history that we don't know their first name or their

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Speaker 1: last name, or their country. We don't know who who

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Speaker 1: it was. But no matter what you hear, or see

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Speaker 1: or read, in this Weekend Ahead. It's sure as hell

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Speaker 1: was not Roger Banister, which brings us lastly to missus

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Speaker 1: Roger Banister, Moira Elva Jacobson Banister, daughter of a Swedish economist.

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Speaker 1: According to Roger Banister, his wife didn't know a lick

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Speaker 1: about sports, let alone about running, let alone about him

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Speaker 1: running for a time. Roger Banister once said, my wife

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Speaker 1: thought I had run four miles in one minute. You know,

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Speaker 1: as I've been thinking about this and researching that story,

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Speaker 1: you might as well go with that. Four miles in

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Speaker 1: one minute no more ridiculous than thinking that Roger Banister

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Speaker 1: was the first man to run one mile in four minutes.

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Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here for

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Speaker 1: one day. Thank you for listening. Brian Ray and John

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Speaker 1: Phillip Schanel, the musical directors, have Countdown, arranged, produced and

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Speaker 1: performed most of our music. Mister Chanelle handled the orchestration

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Speaker 1: and keyboards. Mister Ray was on guitars, the bass and

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Speaker 1: the drums. It was produced by Tko Brothers. And no,

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Speaker 1: Roger Bannister did not become the first human being to

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Speaker 1: run the four minute mile. Not in the whole of

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Speaker 1: that Millennium christ Our satirical and pithy musical comments are

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Speaker 1: by the best baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. The

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Speaker 1: sports music is the Olderman theme from ESPN two, written

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Speaker 1: by Mitch Warren Davis Curtesy of ESPN Inc. Other music

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Speaker 1: arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. My

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Speaker 1: announcer today was my friend, Nancy Faust. Everything else was,

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Speaker 1: as ever, my fault. So let's countdown for today, Day

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Speaker 1: one hundred and six of America held hostage, just three

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven days until the scheduled end of his

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Speaker 1: lame duck and lame brained term. Unless the Deep State

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Speaker 1: removes him sooner, What where the actuarial tables do? The

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Speaker 1: next scheduled countdown is Thursday, as always bulletins, as the

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Speaker 1: news warrants, remember in peach Trump, it won't work now.

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Speaker 1: It will, however, win the Democrats the mid terms. And

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Speaker 1: I want some polling on a presidential recall vote. How

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Speaker 1: difficult is this? Stop with the focus groups? Chuck until

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Speaker 1: next time. I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight,

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Speaker 1: and good luck. Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production

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