1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: So I'm getting to talk to black Elvis. Huh, thanks 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: for joining us, man than you. Where did that come from? 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: First of all? Man, surely just my alto ego. You know, 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: you got these different things, and you know you think 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: about throughout the game and throughout the week or preparation, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: and you know, just something I go to a person 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I go to you know, and it's 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of to simulate, you know, my playing style. 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: I feel like I played, you know, kind of wild. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: I played with a lot of enthusiasm, loose hips, you know, 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: loose hips, um dance and all the time. You know, 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I want to get the crowd into it, you know, 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: similar like you know how Oversee used to give us 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: always get the you know, the crowd entertained and you know, 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: have the crowd going crazy and different women at Wisconsins 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, it's not really directed towards the women, 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: but it's morely directed towards the fans as a whole. 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: You know. So it's kind of me and that alt ego. 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I go to that football self, you know, away from 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: the Frank Clark as a person every day. Do you 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: feel like, in order to be successful you got to 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: be something different, someone else, you know what I mean. Yeah, 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you got to have a different personality out there not 24 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: to be successful. I feel like you always be yourself, 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, but I feel like within yourself it's always 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: something different. I feel like you just got to find it. 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: So like for years, um, I searched for I say 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: that that inner piece within football, you know, I kind 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: of I kind of used to always use football as 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: an outlet, always as an outlet for things. I was 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: going through things, you know, UM can going through every day. 32 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: I might have a test or something or something difficult 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: going on in my life. You know, I'm going to 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: practice with all this steel and all this claim in me, 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: you know, ready to just let it all out, you know, 36 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: I had to. I got to a point where I 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, I sat myself down and I really thought 38 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: about it, and I was like, man, you know, it's 39 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Yeah, I can use that 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, the you know, the few of myself and 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I can also use it, you know, 42 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: as part of you know, the game. I can use 43 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: to entertain people. I can use you know, have a 44 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: that that person I go to you know when I 45 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: when I need an extra help in the game. You 46 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: know that person I go to when I feel like 47 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: my coach, you need to play, you know, just stuff 48 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: like that. When did that, When that switch happened and 49 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: you said, you realize that you could use it for 50 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: something good? YEA honestly happened in college, man, when I, um, 51 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: I started doing this dance every game, pretty game in college, 52 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: and it was called the nitty shuffle, And that's kind 53 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: of when they first started. UM I started doing this dance. 54 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: If you look at some old film from Michigan days, 55 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: every game, pre game, I was dancing and I did 56 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: this dance. The whole team gathered around me, and it 57 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: was kind of just to bring energy, you know. You know, 58 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: you got some guys that need a you know, they 59 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: need they need a five hour energy, they need a 60 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: red Bull, they might need a certain playlist, you know, 61 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: whereas you know, I take it upon myself, you know, 62 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: to be the energy for the team. I take it 63 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: upon myself to be that kickstart that our team needed 64 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: just to get ready for the day. You know, if 65 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: it if you didn't have it. I knew at that point, 66 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, after you know, after I did what I did, 67 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: my little jig or whatever. I knew after that point, 68 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, my team would probably have it. You know, Frank, 69 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: here you are, this is your fourth year, You're twenty 70 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: five years old. If you look in that D line room, 71 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: you're like, you're not the older guy because of some 72 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: of the guys they prought in the offseason, But you're 73 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: the guy who's been here the longest. You're the oldest 74 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: tenured guy. I mean, you sit in that room, does 75 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: it seem like you're the old man in this D 76 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: line group? Um? I mean it's not gonna same like 77 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: when you like you said, you're twenty five years old. 78 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I look at him, I'm like, well, 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I've been there four years now, you know, And you 80 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: know I've seen all the faces come. Who's you know, 81 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: been the faces of this the line of this team, 82 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: Super One, Super Bowls, you know, Brandon Mebang, I've seen 83 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: them come. I've seen um, Michael Benn of course, Cliff 84 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: av you know, I've seen all these different guys come 85 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: and go. And you know the one thing that I 86 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: wanted to do why they were here was basically get 87 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: as much but a vet knowledge as possible. You know, 88 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to gain as much knowledge from the experiences 89 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: they had as rookies and the first, second, third year players, 90 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: you know the challenges they will face, you know, so 91 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: I would be prepared, and that's kind of what happened. Um. 92 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I was very prepared, you know, up 93 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: into this day, Um, for everything that's been thrown at 94 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: me and for everything that's gonna be thrown at me 95 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: because of the help that I have for my veterans. 96 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: So you a different guy, different player, I feel like 97 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: I am. I feel like UM more with time experience comes. 98 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: So UM, I feel like the more time I had 99 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: on the field, the more experience I gain, UM, which 100 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: correlates to, you know, the better you know I'm gonna 101 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: be on the field, the better I'm gonna be in practice, 102 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: the um, you know, I understand more of my role. 103 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's more, you know, clear noun as to 104 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: my role on this team. It's more, you know, it's 105 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: not necessarily being just a guy. You know, I have 106 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: to be a leader, you know, I have to be 107 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: an example. I got, like you said, I got guys 108 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: in the room who's never been here. They don't understand 109 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: what it is to play like a seahawk. And understand 110 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: what it means to be a part of this defense, 111 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, and those are all things. Although you know 112 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: we've had key guys leave and different stuff like that 113 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: this offseason. You know, it's it's it's job like this 114 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: that you know, require attention to myself, Bobby um kJ 115 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: m earl. You know, when things get right and people 116 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: like that, it requires us to show these guys, you know, 117 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: the path that we need to go to get to 118 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: where we need to be. Do you think, and it's 119 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: not a knock on anybody, but do you think by 120 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: having you know, Michael Bennett gone or by in Cliff April, 121 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: those guys they're big personalities. They were leaders when you 122 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: got here, So there's a natural level of respect that 123 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: goes on, you know, for you as the young guy 124 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: versus those guys. Once they're gone, then Frank's able to 125 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of to be the leader and kind of step 126 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: up a little bit that you really couldn't, in fairness 127 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: do before. Do you feel like that is something that 128 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: going into this season now you're able to do. Um. 129 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it is. Honestly, Um, it's more open now, 130 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: I can, I can, I can voice my opinion, I 131 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: can put my two cents in and and you know, 132 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I can relate to a lot of the younger guys. 133 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you when you come in and you're 134 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: a rookie and you're coming in off of you know, 135 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: a back to back football seasons, you know, from a team, 136 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard. You're coming in at a hard 137 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: place and not feel like I came into a hard place. Yeah, 138 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, I felt like I came in and it 139 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: was expected to do right. It's expected to know what 140 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: you got your exsignment, you know, and all these things 141 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: coming in at the point where I came in compared 142 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: to God's coming in now, I feel like the God's 143 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: coming in now. And it's more learning, it's more understanding. 144 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: It's more getting back to the basics now, you know. 145 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Whereas it's dan this. You know, we're on this run. 146 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's get on this train, you fall into 147 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: place and you figure it out, you know. And I 148 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: feel like at this point, you know when it when 149 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: it dies down, when all that hype dies down, and 150 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: we at this point now today, you know, whereas it's 151 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: a question mark, it's finding that identity again, it's finding 152 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: out what makes the Seahawks the Seahawks. You know what 153 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: makes people feel the Seahawks, you know. Um, I feel 154 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: like I just feel like we're at a perfect place 155 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: right now. Um. I feel like I love being an underdog. 156 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: I love being the group that has to prove something. Um, 157 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like we got a lot of provement. 158 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna prove it. You know, when I take a 159 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: look at you, and I don't know you other than 160 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: seeing you here in camp, but from a real life standpoint, 161 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: not just the football standpoint, do you feel that you 162 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: have a maturity you haven't had before because you seem like, 163 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know if people even like 164 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: body energy and all that stuff, but like there seems 165 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: to be less of a negative cloud route in you 166 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: than there was earlier. Even though you've gone through a 167 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: lot of personal things you've been open about in your 168 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: life and your father, you know, passing away this year 169 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: and things like that that most people would still be 170 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: in a dark place, but it seems as though you're 171 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot lighter emotionally than you were in the past. Yeah. Um, 172 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: And you know, my father's passion attributes to that. Um. 173 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: I lost my grandmother and my grand and my father 174 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: all in the same year. So it's um you know, 175 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: it's hard, but you know, to those things, the things 176 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: you go through in life and these different challenges you 177 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, you go through you you grow from them, 178 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: You're forced to grow from them if you're smart. I 179 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: feel like that. Um. I feel like at a point, 180 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, you go you get so low in life 181 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: and you go to a point in life where you 182 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: feel like you know it. You know, what else can happen? 183 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: You know what what more wrong can I do? What 184 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: more can you know can happen in my life? What more? 185 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: How many more challenges do I have to pass for? 186 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, everything to slow down? You know, and finally 187 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: you get to that point where you understand, like you're 188 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna always have challenges. You're gonna always have things you 189 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: go through life, no matter how much money you have, 190 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: no matter how poor you are, You're gonna always have challenges. 191 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: It's just about what you do after those challenges. You 192 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: know what makes the person you are so and I 193 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: and I understood that, you know, I understood like Frank, 194 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: where when you were five, when you were six? You know, 195 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: when you were seven, you're homeless? Okay, And some of 196 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: the same problems you were going through then you're going through. Now. 197 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: People are still passing away. You know, people are still 198 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: getting you know, you're still having family problems. It's just 199 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: on a different scale. Now it might not be you know, 200 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: family problems to you know, this person, don't like this person. 201 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: It might be this person may need something, you know, 202 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: and they're relying on you to get that done. That 203 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: The money in the building doesn't change all that. It 204 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: doesn't change it, just like it's just in a different form. 205 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: And you have to be ready for everything. Um. I 206 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: feel like as a guy, as a guy coming from 207 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: where I come from, you know, you have to prepare yourself. Um. 208 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: I never knew I was gonna at six years old, 209 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna end up at Michigan, but I knew 210 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna be in college somewhere. So I was 211 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: prepared at that age to go to college. And I knew, 212 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, at that age, I need to do everything 213 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: I can now to prepare myself for the future. So 214 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: what does that belief come from a six year old 215 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: kid who's homeless, that you're you're definitely gonna go to 216 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: college and definitely gonna be a success. It comes from 217 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: saying everything around me. You know, I'm saying, you know, 218 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: my house gets shots up one night. The next night, 219 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, this person who I'm very close to passes away, 220 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: he gets killed. Then you know, a couple of years later, 221 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm shipped away to Cleveland. It's like when 222 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: all these different things happened and you're sitting there like, 223 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, the only thing and you're saying the same thing. 224 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: You're saying the drug, she's saying, you know, the gang Biden, 225 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: You're saying, all this different stuff happening around you. You know, yeah, 226 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I indulged in some of it. Yeah I'm not saying 227 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm perfect, but I'm also saying I wanted to be different. 228 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: You know, I was the kid in school who, yeah 229 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: I got, I got aged, but also was a problem 230 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: in the classroom because I got my work, but I 231 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: wanted to talk and I want to bother everybody else, 232 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was like, I 233 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: feel like I always had a goal, and my goal 234 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: was just to always be different from everybody who was around. 235 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: And you know, years later that kind of that's how 236 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: I kind of carried out. One or least non football 237 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: thing is that you talk about you know, you're going 238 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: to Michigan and obviously you slid in the draft and 239 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: everybody knows why, and you've been public about it, and 240 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: your girlfriend's been public about it. You know that there 241 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: was no into that. Do you ever come to grips though, 242 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: that there are people that are never going to let 243 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: that go and that say I can't respect him, I 244 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: can't like him. No matter what you do or do, 245 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: you always try to prove to people that that's not 246 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: who I am, who you think you know, the person 247 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: you think I am is not who I am. Yeah, 248 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: I kind of got over proven anything, you know what 249 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean trying to prove prove my point to people, 250 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like I did that when I had 251 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: to talk to judges. I had to I spent from 252 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: November twenty two fourteen November two thousand and fourteen to 253 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: until you know, draft days, well, not just that point, 254 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: specifically saying that people have an image they think because 255 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: they heard that as yea, they know who Frank Clark is. Right. 256 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: It's like you know, you go you once you repeat 257 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: yourself so many times, you know, to the people that matter, 258 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: you know the folks that matter, and you know you 259 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: in your workspace, your family. You know, I've had to 260 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: repeat this story to my family. I'd have to tell 261 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: my family. Had to face my own mother, you know, 262 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: I had to face my own grandmother when she was 263 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: alive rest in peace. So when you got to face 264 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: people like that in your life, who you hold, you know, 265 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: dear to you, my little sister, you know, um, who 266 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: you hold dear to you, and you got to explain 267 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: that one day. I'm had to explain to my daughter, 268 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, um. And you hold people 269 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: like that dear to you, you know, nobody else's opinion. 270 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: It really matters once you start to understand that, Once 271 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: they start to understand that and come to grips and 272 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: they start to you know, they forgive you, not even 273 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: for the action, but for the situation that you put 274 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: yourself in. You know. It's that's kind of where I 275 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: went to peace with it, you know. And I feel like, 276 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: even today, I understand that people are gonna still look 277 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: at me, and so I don't respect them or I 278 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: don't like them, I don't you know, for whatever reason. 279 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: That's fine. I mean I look at it like you're 280 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: you're don't always have people in the game in this game. 281 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: You know, that's not gonna like you, whether you're doing 282 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: good or whether you're doing bad. That's just how it is. 283 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: It's life, you know. In life. You know, if you 284 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: wake up every day and you're trying to make everybody 285 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: happy in life, if if you make that your point 286 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: every day, you're gonna want to be a misuccessful person. 287 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be missic. Yeah, because you can't make everybody 288 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: happy no matter what I always say. You know, just 289 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: life in general always go some people like Strawberry and 290 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: some people like Vanilla, and no matter what you tell them, 291 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: they're not gonna switch the other side, you know what 292 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean. So you can spend all your time trying 293 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: to convince somebody that the other side is the right side, 294 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: or you're just wasting your breath after a while. So 295 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: not enough people realize that. Back to football here, Um, 296 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: last year you had nine sacks. Year before you had 297 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: ten sacks. I think you played better last year all 298 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: around him. It's not just about the sacks. What's the 299 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: goal this year? I mean, is it in a number? 300 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: Is it the way you play? What is it? Um? 301 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: I just want to I want to really bring my 302 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: main goal is to bring other people alone. I feel like, 303 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: at an early point in my career, you know, as 304 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: early as it's been, I've had, you know, some success, 305 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and I feel like if I shared my success and 306 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: the things I've done, you know, to go from point 307 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: A to point B, you know, and so on, I 308 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: feel like if I share that with the younger guys 309 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: and I use my story and try to help them, 310 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I use what I've been through, you know, before I've 311 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: been to the league and to this point, that they 312 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: can kind of understand where they need to be here, 313 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, what they need to do to stay here. Um. 314 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of guys come in to 315 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: this league and they, you know, no matter you know, 316 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: throw the Seahawks out the picture and to the whole league. 317 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of guys come in and 318 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: they had this complacent attitude about themselves, you know, and 319 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: they feel like, I'm the guy. You know, I'm good. 320 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: You know, I'm on the team. I'm on the team. 321 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Finally I got drafted, I got picked up. No matter 322 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: what it is, you get this complacent attitude about yourself, 323 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and naturally, when you get complacent, you kind of get 324 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: laxed and you feel like you're secure, you know, and 325 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: I feel like you can't be secure. You gotta always 326 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: come into this to your workspace every day with the 327 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: mindset of getting better and making your next day the 328 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: best day. That's that's what I kind of say. I 329 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: kind of say, coach. They asked me, you know how, 330 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: it's the day I like it's better than the last, 331 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, because I always want to make my next 332 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: day better than my last day. You talk about not 333 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: trying to prove anything to anybody on the outside. This 334 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: the last year of contract. You feel you have to 335 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: prove anything to the Seahawks, um anything more. I feel 336 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: like I always got to prove something. I feel like 337 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: if you the day the day you don't got to 338 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: prove something, I feel like that's when the work is done. 339 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you might are retired now if you 340 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: feel like you don't got to prove something at year eight, 341 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: at year nine, you feel like I don't got to 342 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: prove nothing, nobody no more. I'm good? Then why are 343 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: you playing stiff? You know what I'm saying. You might 344 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: as will be like, I'm cool, I could take I 345 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: take my earners. I'm gonna sit somewhere on the yacht. 346 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going vacation. But at this point, I 347 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I've done enough, you know, 348 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: to to grab the attention of everyone in the NFL. 349 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone in the NFL knows who Frank 350 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: kids and knows what I can do. And I feel 351 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: like I've done enough to be appreciated. But at the 352 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, I feel like you have to 353 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: keep striving. I feel like, like I said, you can't 354 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: get to that point where you feel like you've done, 355 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, like like you're done, like the work is complete. 356 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: Like I work. I work so hard, like I feel, 357 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: I take pride, I said, and I said openly, I 358 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: said over interviews, I feel like I'm the hardest worker 359 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: on the team. You can look at me in practice, 360 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: you can look at the film. You know, I work 361 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: so hard because I feel like, you know, you never 362 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: know when that last day is. You never know when 363 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: it's the day your day gonna come, when the football 364 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: guys look at you and say it's done, You're done 365 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: with you know. I just was in mini camp with 366 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: a guy he got he got another concussion. It's his 367 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: sixth of his career, and he got to call it 368 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: a career at the age of twenty three, I believe. 369 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: So it's it's you look around. Yeah, I see Cliff, Yeah, 370 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: my brother. You know why I sat and played with 371 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: for three years and I who taught me a lot 372 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I go, well, in one play, his 373 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: whole life change. I look at Cam in one player, 374 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: his whole life change. I look at Sarnum, You're playing 375 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: against Arizona in one play, his whole life change. You know, 376 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: come on, man, we can we can say it's not 377 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: a fact, but any guy's not going to be the 378 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: same ath he comes back from my keiths. You know, 379 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: they might. They're gonna lose a step. You know, by 380 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: the end of the day. I feel like you have 381 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: to always just be mentally stable for it, you know, 382 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: whatever has to come. The daughter changed your life, your perspective, 383 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: perspective on this. Yeah, my daughter just helped me understand 384 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, what it really means to get up every day. 385 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that it took away the selfishness, 386 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: the selfish part of the game. You know, you gotta 387 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: player's line if he says not selfish, because everyone wants 388 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: or wants wants more for themselves. You always want more. 389 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: You want more, you want more, but you can't. You 390 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: gotta be cautious with it. You can't want too much 391 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: because sometimes you can't handle, you know, what you ask for. 392 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: So but my daughter kind of slowed all that down, 393 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: she kind of took that away. In my selfish ways, 394 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I got to focus it on her. You know, I'm 395 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: the only person I'm selfish with is her, and I 396 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: think that's the way it should be.