1 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in It Together Draft Podcast. 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm Logan Paulson here with just a guy, Jason and Jason. 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here, but I'm also kind of 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: bummed out. 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: We were four quarters away, Logan. 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: Four quarters away from doing something really. I mean, what 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: we did was really cool. We were what we did 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: was very special. Sometime I'm gonna remember for the rest 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: of my life. But man, I really thought we had it. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: I really thought we were going to the super Bowl and 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: we weren't gonna be talking about the Senior Bowl. We'd 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: just be down in New Orleans living our best life. 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: And I logan, God's honest truth. I thought we were 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: going because I thought we had the best player on 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah. Now Eagles fans will say Saquon and 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: Squon's pretty good. He's pretty good. And you know, I'm 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: a Penn State fan, so I it's hard not to 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: like Saquon, even though I don't like the Eagles all 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: that much. 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Especially as researching, so I always think, like when those 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: guys get drap really high, there's all those expectations. You know, 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: you're just pulling for a guy, and it was you 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: don't want him to do it against the commanders. 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: But it was great to see the year that he had. Yeah, 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: and I just love Jaya and Daniels, and I was like, 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: most important position, I guess the best player at the 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: most important position in quarterback, we had Jane and I 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: thought maybe we had it not to be That's okay. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Fred Smoot said it best actually that the Super Bowl 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: windows officially open. Guys, I like it. You could be 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: ready for the next several years here. You can be excited. 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: The Eagles have been in this Super Bowl, when the 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Bills have been in it, the Chiefs have been in it. 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: We've just started and we're right there with them. So 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: that's something really really really exciting. 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: Really exciting. And I think with that idea of it 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: just opening right, all of the pieces that could potentially 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: be added to this team that. 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Starts now down here in Mobile. 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Obviously this process starts sway in advance for a lot 41 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: of people, but for us, it starts now. For this team, 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: it starts now. So Adam Peters here today saw Tim Gribble, 43 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: the director of College Scouting, like there is a big 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Washington commander presence here because they understand that the next 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: commanders that are going to be the foundation for this 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: organization are down here in this game, which is always 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: fun to kind of have a in a weird way, 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 2: kind of a peek behind the veil of the guys 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: that they're looking at, the guys that are talking to. 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of reasons we got to 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, and no small piece is how 52 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Adam Peters, dan Quinn, the whole front office has evaluated 53 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: talent and the rookie class that came in, not just Jaymen. 54 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: There are some rookie dogs on this team. 55 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean think about it, like Mike Sandrastill and 56 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: all these pieces that are here, Jershon Newton, obviously Jayden, 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: but you know Brandon Coleman, like he was in this 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: game last year. 59 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember we watched him. 60 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: He's in the game, really played guard, played tackle, got 61 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: the one on one reps and it's and Ben Sennett 62 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: was down here last year. 63 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: There was a lot of pieces that. 64 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Were in this game that are now Washington Commanders. Because again, 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: if you think about it, one of the big values 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: of this game is you get to talk to different players. 67 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Like I was down there talking to my agent today 68 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: on the field and I saw Tim Gribble running around, 69 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: He's meeting all these players, taking time and really just 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: like that's the that's the secret sauce, right, that's the 71 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: secret stuff of building those relationships to the players, getting 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: to know what kind of person they are. And it's 73 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: great to see them so far. You know, just how 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: excited they are to get that process started. 75 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I love this draft process. Now, Logan, you 76 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: know that I feel like I'm really behind because of 77 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: this NFC Championship playoff. For we have other responsibilities, right, 78 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: like you do the game day live show, you do 79 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: to radio broadcast, so you have to be preparing for 80 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: those playoff games. And I produce a lot of content. 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: So like we were focused on getting to the super Bowl. 82 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: That's why we haven't had podcasts for a ticket to 83 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: your Draft come out earlier. But then we had a 84 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, unfortunately lost on a plane the next morning, 85 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: and here we are. 86 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Here we are in Mobile, in Mobile, and you know, 87 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: it was so funny. I was like, I don't know 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: if we should go. It's kind of far that we're 89 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: in the stadium today and we're watching the guys clack 90 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: helmets a little bit, and I was like it's. 91 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: It's going to be down It's good. 92 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: It's good to be down here. It's going to be 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: down here. So I'm really excited to kind of introduce 94 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: are the people we saw today our draft process, because 95 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: I've watched about let's say, eighty or ninety guys so far, 96 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: which is still just kind of scratching the surface. Some 97 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: of those guys are in there. Some of these guys 98 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: were getting to meet for the first time in this 99 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: process today, So this is always a fun kind of 100 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: first show conversation. 101 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Right yeah, And I'm behind you with that, like I 102 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: haven't watched barely. 103 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: You know, we got well, we got we got a 104 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: new baby, So congratulations to you. Thank you. 105 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have two under two, so pray for you. 106 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm really great for me right now, my will my 107 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: wife loves I'm in right now, but uh no, she's fantastic. 108 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: But what I'm gonna do moving forward is, like I 109 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: my role I think in these podcasts is to be 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: just a guy like I. I know, I didn't play football. 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't know the ins and out of football to 112 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: the way that you do. You're an expert, and so 113 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: my job is to us watch it like how I 114 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: think most of us do, and then ask you questions 115 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: about what I see doesn't line up with what I see, 116 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: because I think the point of this podcast is for 117 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: not to be dense. I don't want this to be dense. 118 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I want this podcast to be people going to see 119 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: if what their evaluation is right. Like if you're a 120 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: fan and it you don't even have to be a 121 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: fan of the commander is a fan of any team 122 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: and you say, oh, this guy looks good, or that 123 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: guy looks good, or I liked him in college. I 124 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: wonder how he's doing in this draft process. You can 125 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: come here and hopefully hear what you would maybe see 126 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: and then present it to a NFL a lum of 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: ten years and say is this right right, and teach 128 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: us how to evaluate prospects. So that being said, we 129 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: are here. I'm going to do play that role today. Unfortunately, 130 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: because we flew in how we did. We had to 131 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: play the NFC Championship game, and then we flew in. 132 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: We missed the first part of practice, so we missed 133 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: the first team practice. 134 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: We missed yeah, we missed the national the national team practice. 135 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: So we got off the plane and went right to 136 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the stadiums so we got here for the second half, 137 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: but not the first. Yeah, not the first half. 138 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: And again there's some players in there that you know, 139 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: we're really excited to talk about and we've it was 140 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 2: so fun to kind of talk to people in the stands, 141 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: talk to agents, talk to people that had seen the 142 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: first practice, and get kind of hints and previews of 143 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: guys they thought did well. But to me, that's kind 144 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: of the more if you're in the offensive line, that's 145 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: like the more fun group. And what I mean by 146 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: that is you got Josh Connery in there. He's from Oregon, 147 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: He's like six four through fifteen. He's probably gonna be 148 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: the third or fourth tackle selected, depending on injury. So 149 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: like for the Commanders picking at the end of the 150 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: first round, if you want an athletic guy, he's in 151 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: that first group. So we can't wait to watch him. 152 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: You know, Anthony Belton from NC State is this mammoth 153 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: of a human being who's got like a little bit 154 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: of like dancing bear to him when you see him, 155 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: which is always kind of fun. And we're going to 156 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: talk about his measurables here because he really he almost 157 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: won the day just for measurable but that group's got 158 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: the more kind of fun offensive line group. The second practice, 159 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: the American practice, is more defensive lines centric in terms of. 160 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Guys that'll probably go. H Obviously there's really. 161 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Good defensive linemen in the national practice. Well, because to me, 162 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: that's the strongest group probably in the whole Senior Bowl. Right, 163 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: It's the defensive line. So there's if you like defensive line, 164 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: this is the draft. This is the Senior Bowl for you. 165 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And as always, will end the show quickly talking 166 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. Will do this almost every episode. We're not 167 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: in the market for one. We got a pretty dark 168 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: good one and Jaden but you never know, but just 169 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: relct these guys could go in a later round, which 170 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: is a good you never know. And that's the thing. 171 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody today and they were talking 172 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 2: about what's the kids name from Ohio State, I forget 173 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: his name, the quarterback Will Howard Will Howard about how 174 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: they had a second round great on him, you know. 175 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, and that quarterback is taken 176 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: early in the second round, that pushes better football players, 177 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: non quarterbacks, down to the commanders who are picking at 178 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: the atom of the first and the bottom of the second, 179 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: So if they kind of if those non i'm gonna 180 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: say non quarterback players, if those if those quarterbacks are 181 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: drafted earlier, those non quarterbacks get pushed down, and again 182 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: that increases the value. So we're going to talk about 183 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: them just from that standpoint. And if you know, if 184 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: you're a fan from a different team getting in here, 185 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: it's a great opportunity to kind of talk through some 186 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: of that. 187 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And what if the Giants were in the 188 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: market for a quarterback for some reason, then maybe we 189 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: put eyes on one and we know what we're getting 190 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: into as a divisional d Yeah, so I'm sure that, 191 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: like even though we have Jane and Daniels our scouting department, 192 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: Adam Peters, they don't not look at quarterback. Of course 193 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: they do because not to replace, it's not what you're doing. 194 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's value. What if we play the Giants 195 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: week one, now you know what you're getting into, or 196 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: at least you know more what you're getting into. So 197 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: it's important to know. So we'll always talk about quarterback 198 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: at the end. We're not We're never going to just 199 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: shy away from them because of Jane and Daniels. The 200 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: same with most of our positions. So I want to 201 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: start with this though. The first thing that happened for 202 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl that kicked it off wasn't even practice. 203 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: It was that they released the measurables, yes, for the players. 204 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: So these are not their school measurables, which are maybe inflated. Right, 205 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I could walk in and they could measure 206 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: me at Miama Mater and they say you look like 207 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: you're six two, and uh, I'm really five to five. 208 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: So or one of our guys here klem like saying 209 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: he's a five ten all the time, he's an inch taller. 210 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: That why he gets away with that? 211 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: All right? 212 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: It's but so these are the actual measurables, and there's 213 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: some guys on here where it goes. How is that 214 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: how I need to see this move? Because in my mind, 215 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: these measurables don't make sense in one way or another. 216 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: And I'm going to call these guys that you picked out, 217 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to call them Paulson's paranormals. Like there's just 218 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: something about these guys that it doesn't seem real. So 219 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: who are some of these guys that you saw on them? 220 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, just piggyback on that, Like one of the reasons 221 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: I got into the draft, like when I was in 222 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: middle school in high school, was to see the freaks, 223 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: right to go through my draft guy that i'd buy 224 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: with my dad and be like, well, this receiver six five, 225 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: two forty. I remember Vinson Jackson looking at his thing 226 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: and oh, he's gonna run a four to four h 227 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: He ran a four. Like it just it's the It's 228 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 2: the top one percent of the one percent of the 229 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: one percent in terms of physical measurables, and the fact 230 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: that these guys can move around and play some ball 231 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: is always really exciting. 232 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, as. 233 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: Always with measurables, usually the big guys of the guys 234 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: that steal the show. So you got Jalen Travis from 235 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Iowa State. He plays left tackle for them. He transferred 236 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: in from Princeton. He's six seven and five eighths so 237 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: six eight, three hundred and forty one pounds. He's got 238 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: forty one and a half inch arms, and there's very 239 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: few guys in this class that I think can play 240 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: straight left tackle. And he is a little slow footed, 241 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: a little heavy, but because of this tremendous size and 242 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: link that frame, you say to yourself, I don't know 243 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: if he's gonna play left tackle, but he could probably 244 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: play right tackle. And if you can't do the outside stuff, 245 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: you can probably play a guard at some point. 246 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: Can we put that arm length in the perspective? Is 247 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: the average arm leane you would say, for an offensive tackle. 248 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: So the average armlink, I think is anywhere between probably 249 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: thirty three, the high ends thirty five, thirty five and 250 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: a half like occasionally, yes, what he's got thirty four, 251 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: So he's kind of right in the middle. But to me, 252 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: the freaky stuff about him is the body weights, because 253 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: he doesn't look like a fat guy like he was 254 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: on the field after practice this morning. He just looks 255 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: like like a normal like just a person that's been enlarged. 256 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: So he's six eight, he's three forty. 257 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: Yes, it just looks like a big human that could 258 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: like just crush you, right, And so when you see 259 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: a frame like that, a guy that can absorb power 260 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: sink a bowl like that's something you always double click 261 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: on because you said this, it's it's the Earth theory, right, 262 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: There's only a couple guys on the planet Earth that 263 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: are that big and that quick. And so is he 264 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: an NFL player right now? 265 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: Maybe not? 266 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: You know, it came in from Princeton. That's a smaller 267 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: school thing as one year of kind of big time 268 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: football at Iowa State. 269 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: But I look at this. 270 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: And I say little green developmental. But that frame, man, 271 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: that's something that's going to really make you excapt I did. 272 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: So that that's one and then there's two other offensive 273 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: lineman ones Carson Vinson six and seven eights three fourteen 274 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: fit thirty five in one eighth inch arms, so the 275 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: longest arms measured at the combine kind of got that 276 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: basketball player build. We're going to take a deep dive 277 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: in on him in a second. What school was he 278 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: He's from Alabama A and M, so very small school, 279 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: very raw. His film's crazy because it's like, you know, 280 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: looks like it's a high school game someone's filming from 281 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: the stands. But he's a really interesting guy because those 282 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: long arms, that long athletic build. Then Anthony Belton on 283 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: the offensive line six five and three fourth inches, three 284 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: hundred and forty five pounds. He's got a ten and 285 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: a half inch hand, So, like, take a piece of 286 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: paper that's eleven by eight, right, that's about how big 287 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: his hand is in terms of the spread it's going 288 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: to have. And he has thirty five inch arms, so 289 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: thirty four and three force arms. But that's a big 290 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: bear of a human. 291 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Guard. 292 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: Reminds me a little bit of who's the guard for 293 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: the for the Cowboys this year. He plays left guard 294 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: from Twulane. Really athletic guy, very raw, physical but like 295 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: that's the kind of guy he is. And because of 296 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: that size and strength and speed, you're like, man, maybe 297 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: this is uh, this guy can play left tackle or 298 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: be an upgrade on the offensive line just from a 299 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: physicality standpoint. Then you go defensive end and this guy, 300 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna jump on anybody's radar, you know, 301 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: like he's not like a surprise, but uh, Shamar Stewart 302 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: six five and one eighth two hundred and eighty one pounds, 303 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: thirty four in a quarter inch arms. He plays defensive end. 304 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: And when you see him out there, like you know 305 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: Montes Sweat was six six, he's about sixty six. He's 306 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: two he's two eighty five, uh, two eighty five ish, 307 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: and think about Montes Montes was two sixty. So this 308 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: guy is twenty pounds heavier, he's big, he's fulled out. 309 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: He looks like a gladiator out there, and just to me, 310 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: it's like when you look across the defensive line specifically, 311 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: he looks like a he looks like an NFL player, 312 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: like he just passes the test immediately in the measurements 313 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: support that. And then you get Darren Porter, who to 314 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: me was extremely surprising from Iowa State. He's sixty two 315 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: and three eights. He's a defensive back, so six two 316 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: and three eighths is a defensive back, is huge. He's 317 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: one hundred ninety five pounds, so big corner thirty two 318 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: inch arms. Also was the I think he was the 319 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: one hundred the one hundred meter hurdle championship, one ten 320 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: hurdle champion in high school. He ran the three into. 321 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Hurdles excuse me, or the four dwer hurdles excuse me. 322 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: There would go all coming back to me at forty 323 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: six seconds, which is almost Olympic qualifying time. So a 324 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: big man, very fast, playing for a good program in 325 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: Iowa State this last year. So that's one that he's 326 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: in the first group. We didn't get to see him, 327 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: but just from a measurement, you're like, Oh, I can't 328 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: wait to watch this guy run around, and then you 329 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: get defensive tackles. And I will say this is the year. 330 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: We've covered this for three years now. Defensive tackle this 331 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: year is just a bunch of just big, big dudes. 332 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're good at football, but they're 333 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: just enormous. Dean Walker from Kentucky is six seven in 334 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: a quarter three hundred and forty pounds, ten and three 335 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: quarter inch hand, so that's bigger than be Belton excuse me, 336 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: from NC State, and he's got thirty four and five 337 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: inc ch arms, So huge man. And then Yah y'all 338 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: Black from Iowa six ' five and three quarters, three 339 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven pounds, ten and a quarter inch hand, 340 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: so huge hand, thirty five inch arms, and he has 341 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: the biggest wings span of anybody at the Senior Bowl 342 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: this year, which is seven feet and one quarter. And 343 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: usually that wingspan number is the thing that says like 344 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: you're just a big human, and his is the biggest 345 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: at the combine. So those are some guys that when 346 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: you just look down the sheet, you go watch the 347 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: film and you say can you play football? And some 348 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: of those are yeses and some of those are nos, 349 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: and some of those are yeses and nose today, but 350 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: just always fun to see those big freaky dudes here. 351 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are guys where you don't have to see 352 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: what they look like at all. You see those measurements 353 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: and it says next one they play football, and you go, 354 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: let me go see, because if we have any sort 355 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: of athletic here, we got something pretty special because only 356 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: God made only so many of these guys. Yeah. 357 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so again, like you know, I go, that's 358 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: exactly what it is. Right when the measurements came out, I 359 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: go watch. Yeah, yeah, Black I've never even heard of 360 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: him before, but I'm gonna go watch this film because 361 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: I got to know what this freak of a man 362 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: looks like. And it's funny because he does flash some athleticism, 363 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: he flashes some power. He's also extremely rabbic. You're like, man, 364 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: if I'm a coach, I'm like, dude, let's get this 365 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: guy in the building and see what we can do, 366 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: because he is a dangerous, dangerous burst of if he's 367 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: that large of a human being. So really impressed, it 368 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: really impressed with him, and you know, like, I can't wait. 369 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: He's in the first group, boss, So I can't wait 370 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: to watch him live in practice tomorrow. 371 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Now to pivot from large men. We were in the stands. 372 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: We had a fan come up that was talking to us, 373 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: who is a big fan of a center. Yes, he said, Man, 374 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I hear a pop and I look over and it's 375 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: always him. Well, it's hard to see him sometimes is 376 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: coming from because tell us about him. 377 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: Willie Lampkin, North Carolina. He is five to ten five 378 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: ten and a half measured at five ten and a 379 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: half two hundred and seventy pounds. 380 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: An offensive lineman at five to ten. 381 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: He's placed center. He's listed at center. And so if 382 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: you think about it, like Picard for the Baltimore Ravens 383 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: is three hundred pounds. He plays full back. This is 384 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: a very unique looking body type. He's kind of like 385 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: a little little jitterbug out there right. He snaps the 386 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: ball and he's got really quick feed. He's got good power, 387 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: good pop, good explosion from the hips. But you're just like, 388 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: can a person that small play successful center at the 389 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: NFL level? I don't know, but he's definitely given a 390 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: good go today, Like he showed out in terms of 391 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: his quickness ability to overtake some of these big guys. 392 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: He got a one on one with Dion Walker today. 393 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: That's the six to seven guy from Kentucky who's three 394 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: hundred and forty pounds. Kind of stoned him a little bit. 395 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 2: And Dean Walker doesn't play with great pad level. That's 396 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: one of the big knocks on him in my opinion. 397 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: Not very coordinated with his pastor's plan. But like you 398 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: got to win the battle, right, and so talk about 399 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: a David and Goliath matchup there that went to the 400 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: smaller player and he really did a great job, you know, 401 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: the giants layer kind. 402 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Of you can be a smaller player and be successful, right. 403 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: No one's knocking on that. It's just paranormal because when 404 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: you think of offensive lineman, you don't think of it. 405 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: Like we just listed all these dudes who are over 406 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: six four, over three point thirty, they got thirty four 407 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: in Like this guy is not that he's the antithesis 408 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: of that, but. 409 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: It does speak to potentially we haven't ever met him, 410 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: we haven't talked with him work ethic athletic ability because 411 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: he's overcome a limitation, Yeah, a limitation, and to get 412 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: to this point it makes you turn your head. Wait 413 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: a minute, a five to ten Lineman, I gotta go 414 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: see what this is and h and he did stick 415 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: out a little bit today and ironically, like literally, he 416 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: would be in the huddle and he was the shortest 417 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: guy in the Huddle's shorter than running backs. Yeah, and 418 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: it's like, wait, how is this going to work? It worked? Yeah, 419 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: it worked today. Yeah. 420 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: So we're definitely gonna watch him a little bit more 421 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: because again, that's kind of a fun story. Lampkin from 422 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: North Carolina. As always, U, when you see something like that, 423 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: do you see the big stuff? It's funny and when 424 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: you see the little stuff it's also interesting too. And 425 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: those guys are kind of on the other on both 426 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: ends of the spectrum. And it's hard for if you're 427 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: really big to make it's hard if you're really small 428 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: to make it. So it'll be interesting to watch those storylines. 429 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: That's the fun of the Senior Bowl is seeing these 430 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: guys roll in and wondering what's going on these paulse 431 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: and pairanormals. I mean last year it was to and 432 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: Andre Sweat, Like I just I remember reading in Texas 433 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: they listed him as three something crazy three think three 434 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: sixty five sixty five And then here at the combine. 435 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: He was like, I'm not weighing it. Yeah, leave it 436 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: to your imagination. I'm as big as you think I am. 437 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: And it's like, how is that why? And he moved 438 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: so well, falling so big and obviously had a great 439 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: season this past year with the Titans. And then you 440 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: have a guy like Johnny Wilson was another one that 441 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: stood out last year, a wide receiver from Florida State, 442 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: and he was six seven forty clearly the tall got 443 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: five and charms like, just a huge, huge wide receiver. 444 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: Moved pretty well and I believe he's on the Eagles, 445 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: had a decent year. Yeah. Right. So that's what's fun 446 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: to me about the Senior Bowl is seeing all the 447 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: different sizes from all around the country. And but they're 448 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: all guys at at the top of where they were, right, 449 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: That's why they're here. They were they reached the pinnacle 450 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: of their school and some of them in their conference, 451 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and that's why they're here. Let's see how they all 452 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: stack up together. It's fun, man, Yeah, it's a lot 453 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: of fun. 454 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: And again, like I said, that's one of the reasons 455 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: you come is for those freaky guys, but you also 456 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: come for really good football players and finding those diamonds 457 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: in the rough, which is always a good time. 458 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the actual football that we saw 459 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: played today in the drills, the one on ones, which 460 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: are the best, the indies and the team drills. Logan, 461 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: I want you to tell me a couple of guys 462 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: that stood out in the practice that we saw today. 463 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna go back to Carson Vincent from 464 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Alabama and m the tackle. You know, the six six, 465 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: he's three fourteen, he's got thirty five in a quarter 466 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: inch arms And immediately you look at him, and I 467 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 2: went and watched this film, you're like me, and he's 468 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: really raw, but he's got a good finisher's mentality. He's aggressive, 469 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: and you're like, well, how's he going to do versus 470 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: larger school prospects. And like I said, there's a lot 471 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: of really really good defensive lineman here, specifically on the edge, 472 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: guys that really just jumped out to you in terms 473 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: of size. You know, you got Princely, a minimalia from 474 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: Old miss who's kind of the maybe the fourth or 475 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: fifth edg rusher in. 476 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: The class, but a pass rush specialist. 477 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: We already talked about Samar Stewart from Texas A and M. 478 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 2: Jared Ivy from Old Miss. Right, just really kind of 479 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: physically imposing guys that played big time football Old Miss 480 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: and m all these different spots. So this guy gets 481 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: in there, like what's going on? And he's in this 482 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: tackle group with a bunch of guys who played a 483 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: lot of football, a lot of LSU guys, and he, 484 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: to me, showed exactly what he needed to show today. 485 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: And so his ability to move his feet mirror really 486 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: well use his length I thought was outstanding. And again 487 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: there's guys in this group like Emery Jones, a guy 488 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: from LSU I thought probably more of a guard, but 489 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: let him. 490 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: Fail at tackle. 491 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: He plays tackle that you see some of his the 492 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: slow foot inness, the physical limitations. He's big, he's strong, 493 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: but he can't quite quite keep up with some. 494 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: Of those speed rushers. Right. 495 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: Logan Brown from Kansas another guy that you're like, oh man, 496 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: he measured really well thirty four and a half inch arms, 497 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: but again looked a little bit out of depth with 498 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: some of these better rushers. And so for me, what's 499 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: his name? Carson Vincent had the last call out today. 500 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: Jason the last call out of the day versus to me, 501 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: who's probably a guy who's probably the fourth or fifth 502 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: ed rusher in the class, A guy that I think 503 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: the commanders are probably going to take a really hard 504 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: look at. In Stewart. You know, he's that six ' 505 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: five two to eighty guy and. 506 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: Edge from Texas A and H just looks like a gladiator. 507 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: Right, So you get out there, you're like, man, small 508 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: school guy versus one of the top prospects in this class, 509 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: Like if he's probably i'd say twenty five to forty 510 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: range in the draft, so a really good football player. 511 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: And he tried to hit him on an inside move. 512 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: Vincent did a great job mirroring using his length, keeping 513 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: him flat, and I was like, this dude, if he 514 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: can figure it out, he's got the athletic profile, he's 515 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: got the size profile. He can it looks like just 516 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: from watching them walk around that he can add probably 517 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: fifteen pounds. So he playing at three twenty five, three thirty, 518 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, you say, man, like, if 519 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: there's a guy to take a shot on, a guy 520 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: maybe in the third round, a guy maybe late second 521 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: you say, this guy could develop into a starting caliber 522 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: player just based on athletic traits. 523 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: And again it's the first day. 524 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot of days left to go, but that 525 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: got me a little excited. They did a run blocking 526 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: period today where again you see kind of his lack 527 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: of elite power and strength that some of these other 528 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: guys have, Like he's just he's not giving up a loss, 529 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: but getting sewed a little bit. But that was really 530 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: exciting for me to see today. 531 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: And that's not to say though that the edge Schmart 532 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Stewart from Texas AMM had a bad day. He had 533 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: a good day because he did it. He had a 534 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: really good day. Yeah, he had a great day. 535 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: You see his again, just his like you watch him 536 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: go through the warm up lines and you're like, who 537 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: is that? And I thought it was a different player 538 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 2: for the majority of the thing, a much smaller player 539 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: and you're like, man, that dude's extremely athletic. He's he's 540 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, that's Stuart. And Stuart weighs 541 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty pounds. And for him to be 542 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: moving that way in the run drills, like the way 543 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: he takes on tackles, the way he can use his length, 544 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: the way he sets edges his power on some of 545 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: the bull rushes, like I mentioned, you know, Logan the 546 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: tackle excuse me from Kansas, big guy six six three 547 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: twenty thirty four and a half in charms, and he 548 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: kind of made him look like they didn't belong on 549 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: the same field. 550 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: So in terms of a guy that just you know, one. 551 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: Of them in Vincent was exceeding expectations that kind of 552 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: show and he could play with the big dogs at 553 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: Stay one. Got two more days to kind of see 554 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: how that progresses. But Stuart Man, like, you're kind of saying, 555 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: let's keep an eye on this guy because if he 556 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: keeps playing this way, he's gonna bump some of these 557 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: other rushers and be kind of that mid from mid 558 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: to late first round guy I said, twenty five to forty. 559 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: Maybe he bumps up and he's fifteen to thirty five 560 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: and he's you know, definitively a first round pick, which 561 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: would be again based on what we saw today, not 562 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: outside the ram of possibility. 563 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just from my jaguyesrom what I saw today, 564 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: there were two plays that stood out to me. When 565 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: they were running the team drills and they started actually 566 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: going at full speed, they weren't just kind of walking through. 567 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: He had one play where he did a nice bull 568 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: rush and then a quick grab and pull and swim 569 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: move over. It would have been a sack. He obviously 570 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: let up. They don't hit the quarterbacks here. It would 571 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: have been a real quick, easy sack. And another one 572 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: where he shed a block double team actually very quickly 573 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: to get the runner at the line of scrimmage. Very 574 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: nice play, and again he's more of that. 575 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: In my mind, I'm always kind of thinking of guys 576 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: that fit what the Washington commanders want to do. So 577 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: you want guys that have some position flexibility. Right, he 578 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: can play as a true hand in the dirt three 579 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: four defensive end. He can play a six, he can 580 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: play a nine. You can also play in a pass 581 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: rushing situation a three technique over the guard. And you 582 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: saw that in his film at Texas A and M. 583 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: And so when you see a guy who, you know, 584 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: what does Dan Quinn like to say, you're going to 585 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: know how get down? Like he plays with that edge 586 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: and that physicality, like watching him versus Missouri at Texas 587 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: A and M. Watching him sprint out of the stack 588 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: on a screen at two hundred and eighty two and 589 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: eighty five pounds and running down a receiver just like 590 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't this guy's sack production in college was not 591 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: great to get one sack last year or zero hit 592 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: zero sacks last year, had a bunch of pressures with 593 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: zero sacks. You know, Like, this guy plays the game 594 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: the right way with the with the physical traits in 595 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: the upside. So he's a guy that we're definitely gonna 596 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: keep an eye on because again, where the commanders are picking, 597 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: it's kind of that bottom of the thing there. So 598 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: if he does kind of for whatever reason, slip down 599 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: that way, that's a really interesting football player to keep 600 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: an eye on. 601 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, give me one more player that stood out to you, 602 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: Just one more one more. 603 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: So. One of the running backs today really stuck out 604 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 2: to me. He was interesting because I didn't really know 605 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: about him obviously, And that's one of the reasons you 606 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: come to the senior ball. It's Bernard Smith from SMU, 607 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: and they do a lot of run one on ones 608 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: and they're very unfair to the linebackers. A ton of space, 609 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: a ton of grass. But what you're watching there is 610 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: just like general movement skills, like the rhythm of the route. 611 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: So running backs tend to be like a little bit 612 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: muscle bound. They're a little tight in the upper back, 613 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: they're tight in the hamstrings. As they're running people over. 614 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: They have to be physical, they have to kind of 615 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: have this body armor on. And so when you see 616 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: a guy like Bishard Smith who has a little bit 617 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: of receiver to his movement skills, right, he's loose in 618 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: the upper back, he can stick his foot in the ground. 619 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: He can give you a nice like the old crossover drill, 620 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: the Okie Doe kind of inside outside move and break 621 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: across the leverage. Like those things are things you say, man, 622 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: if you're an offensive coordinator on third down passing game, 623 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: how to utilize him. And then when you watch the 624 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: team stuff, he's got a nice burst, a nice kind 625 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: of snakelike feel through the hole. So for a guy 626 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: that was not on my radar at all coming into this, 627 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: like to see him move around, to see him win 628 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: all his pass rushing one on ones or his pass 629 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: his route running one on ones, I was like, man, 630 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: he's a guy that I definitely got to go watch 631 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: and maybe wasn't utilized correctly at SMU because he seems 632 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: like he's got this natural route running ability. And that 633 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: was really cool to see. And then R. J. Harvey, 634 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: who's obviously the best running back kind of the biggest 635 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: name in the second group of runners here at the 636 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl, also had a great day. But whatever reason, 637 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: Bashard Smith just kind of stuck out a little bit more, 638 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: a little bit quicker, a little bit more dexterous catch 639 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: in the football. So he's someone I'm definitely gonna watch 640 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: more film up tonight. 641 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, moving on just very quickly. One of the 642 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: things that I think we were disappointed about with the 643 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl with some guys that didn't show up. Yes, 644 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: and it's a prerogative to show up, like we're disappointed 645 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: as fans because we want to see him play. And 646 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: the two biggest ones that didn't show up. The first 647 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: one the wide receiver from TCU. Oh my gosh, So 648 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: ViOn Williams. He was. 649 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: So he's a guy man that you talk about, explosive 650 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: traits and a playmaker. He played quarterback in high school. 651 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: He was at TCU. He's six three and a half 652 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: six four, two hundred thirty pounds. He played their wildcat quarterback. 653 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: He played receiver. He got Jets sweeps, he made contested catches, 654 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: he's got great explosiveness and suddenness, and so with a 655 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: guy like that, you're like, how does he actually play 656 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: the receiver position right? How does he actually do it? 657 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: So in a setting like this, you're like, oh my gosh, 658 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what this size, strength, speed 659 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: looks like with a player like that. But unfortunately had 660 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: injury and wasn't able to make it out. So that's 661 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: always that's always tough because the players got to do 662 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: what's right for them, you know. And so selfishly we 663 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: wanted to come here because I want to see him 664 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: in person. I've seen the tape. I'm excited about the tape. 665 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 2: I want to see what he looks like in person. 666 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: But he's got to make that decision. So hopefully he's 667 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: the guy we see at the combine. And another guy 668 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: that I forgot to mention we were doing this rundown 669 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: was Bo Scarborough. He was supposed to come is not here. 670 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: And again that's one where I wonder if as the 671 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: you know, the playoff process went on, started talking to 672 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: his agent, they started talking to teams. He had a 673 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: much higher grade on him than they thought originally. Again, 674 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: like he was a guy that when I first started 675 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: doing this, which is about four weeks ago, had like 676 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: a fourth or fifth round grade. And then as you 677 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: start talking to teams, as you start listening to other 678 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: draft content, as you start you know, like kind of 679 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: getting the buzz from guys who are insiders, you know, 680 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: mel Kiper all these different guys, it's like, oh, this 681 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: guy might be a second round pick. And so that 682 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a shift, and I wonder 683 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: if that was one of the reasons why he decided 684 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: not to come. 685 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting. He'll be at the Combine, you 686 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: would think for sure. I hope so, so we'll get 687 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: to see him there. It's different, right because it's non contact. 688 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: But that's why I love the Senior Bowl. Man. I 689 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: love the contact part of it much fun. 690 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: It's football, and I think that's the thing that you know, 691 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: for example, like would we know that Carson Vincent can 692 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: play football at the Combine? No, but he comes here 693 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: to the Senior Bowl. He plays better competition. Remember Alabama 694 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: and m small school, right, very small school. They're not 695 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: playing a lot of D one opponents, right, because he 696 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: had they have one game this year against Auburn, Right, 697 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: and he looks a little bit out of his depth 698 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 2: and he comes here and Jason and I don't want 699 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: to harp too much on this guy because other guys 700 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: had great days. You know, the kid from Sacramento State 701 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: had a fantastic day to day. And just like in 702 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: terms of guys that are making the most of their opportunity, 703 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: Jackson Slater played guard, played center and just had like 704 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: that dog to him. But Vincent had the same thing. 705 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: He has a down block on power in the team period. 706 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: And you know most guys they kind of fit up 707 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: and they get off of it, and he's like he's 708 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: like you know, you could tell he's like jacked ub 709 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: and like, yeah, let's go run behind me, Let's do it. 710 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: And that's kind of silly stuff. But talked about a guyho's. 711 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: Passionate about football and passionate about being he sounds like 712 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: a commander. Sounds like a commander. No, but there's something 713 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: to that, right. Like one of the things if you 714 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: look back on last year's draft for the Commanders that 715 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: was so successful, what were those guys. They were all leaders, 716 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: They were all captains, and you have to be vocal 717 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: leaders to be that way too. They play with a 718 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: passion and they don't hide it. Yeah, that doesn't mean 719 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: you have to be loud, right to be liked by 720 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: an organization. But there's something about the competitiveness, right. I 721 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: think the word is dog ass competitor. 722 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: Right. 723 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: They're just doll gas competitors, right, And there's something to 724 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: that that you see when you have competitive football being played. 725 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: You don't get that at the combine because it's routes 726 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: on air, right, it's just running drills. There's an importance 727 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: to that. But there's this is it's football, right, and 728 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: it is different. And speaking of seeing people playing football 729 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: and not routes on airs, let's quickly go through the quarterbacks. 730 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: The three big ones that we saw was Jackson Dart 731 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: from Ole, Miss, Riley Leonard from Notre Dame it was 732 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: just in the championship game, and then Jlen Milroe Alabama. 733 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you're like the quarterback expert a little bit. 734 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: That's only because it was the first thing I scouted. 735 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I haven't done it so to be fair, 736 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: I did. 737 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: It because I wanted to get them out of the way. Yeah. 738 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Right, So I'll say this about Jalen Millro today, I 739 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: think you see a lot of this stuff the same 740 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: stuff you saw from in Alabama. You see a tremendous athlete. 741 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: You see a guy that has really just a nice 742 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: arm velocity and ball velocity. It's got a little bit 743 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: of a wobble to it, which was surprising to see 744 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 2: in person. I talked to someone today who said it's 745 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: because he's got small hands. And he does have small hands. 746 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: They're like eight and three quarters, but technically smaller than 747 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: like can he Pickett at this point? 748 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: Right? Who measured it nine? Yeah, if you listen to 749 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: other draft podcasts, you'll find out who this is. I 750 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: guarantee you he's going to bring it up. 751 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 752 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: I was listening to something on the way over here 753 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: and he already brought it up. So but he could. 754 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: I'll let you let you find that take on your own. 755 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: But that is a thing, right, if you got a 756 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: smaller hand, you got a hold farther back on the ball, 757 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: and he does rip it. It's fast, it's good release, 758 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: but it might be affecting his accuracy. Is he was 759 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: a little delayed. And I hate when people say on 760 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 2: the first day that a quarterback looked delayed. It's the 761 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: first day running routes with people. You don't know. With protections, 762 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: you don't know. 763 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: With offense, you don't know, brand new. 764 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: And so like when people say he looked a little sluggish, 765 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Like you know who also looks sluggish 766 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: the first day of the Seer Bowl bo Nix. 767 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: N Yeah, he did not look great the first day last. 768 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: Year and he figured it out. So like, to me, 769 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: for quarterbacks, a lot of this stuff that they're evaluating, 770 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: teams are evaluating is off the field. It's kind of 771 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: how you handle adversity. It's how you handle the meetings 772 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: and the interactions with the teams. And we talked about 773 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: the commanders building relationships with players. That's to me a 774 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: big part of the quarterback stuff. Like so, for example, 775 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: shad Or Sanders was at the Shrine Bowl and multiple 776 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: teams asked him not to participate. He just was there 777 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: for the interviews, and I thought he did that of 778 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: his own volition. But the rumor is that the Giants like, 779 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: don't do it. The Cleveland Brown's like, don't do We'll 780 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: just interview you and have our kind of savior throwing 781 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: for the combiner, the individual workout, whichever you prefer. And 782 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: so again, obviously if a guy throws here, great, but 783 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: if they don't throw it seems like NFL teams have 784 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: different they're looking for different things from quarterbacks. 785 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things with Milrow is that, Yeah, 786 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: he like the sluggish thing, right. Yeah, you give the 787 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: guy a break for all the reasons he said at. 788 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: The same time at Alabama in the film. 789 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: At Alabama, tough ball security not super accurate. Me canics 790 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: weren't always there, led the bad decision making bad throws percent. Well, 791 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: maybe some of that is sneaking in here. How much 792 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: of it we don't know? 793 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: And again that's something that you got. I think I 794 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: think you're immediately biased to it because you saw. 795 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: That in com It feels like confirmation bias. 796 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: But it's I'm also going to give the guy three 797 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: days at least to kind of figure it out. Jackson 798 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 2: Dart had a couple miss snaps today. You know, he's 799 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: he's been in the gun his entire college career. So 800 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: how much of that plays into it? Again, people are 801 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: going to say he looked a little off, had a 802 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: couple incompletions. I was really impressed that the ball comes 803 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: out of his hand. Personally, Yeah, really layers that thing 804 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: in can really zip it. 805 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: I think he's got great touch too. He can zip it, 806 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: but I think there are times when he knows just 807 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: how to layer it. 808 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: He's probably of the guys that I saw today, and 809 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: again I haven't really watched him on film yet. The 810 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: guys that I saw today that throws the most NFL 811 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: ish if that makes sense. The touch, the ball, velocity 812 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: and kind of touch everywhere in the field. Maybe not 813 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 2: the biggest thrower, but can hit that, you know, twenty yard, 814 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: comeback and do all that stuff. And again, timing was 815 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: a little bit weird on some of the stuff today, 816 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: and that's going to get better as it goes. Like 817 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: I remember Pennis for example too, the ball came out 818 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: great the first day, but still working through some stuff. 819 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: And we haven't really talked about this, but this receiver 820 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: class at the Combine this year or at the Senior 821 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: Bowl this year not very different than what it was 822 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: last year. Last year there was I want to say, 823 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: there was five dudes taken in the first two rounds 824 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, and this year maybe two maybe one. 825 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this real quick, not just with the receivers, 826 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: but let's talk about the draft classes as a whole. Yeah, 827 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: because every draft is different. Right. That's something that I've 828 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: certainly learned since working here is that there's you can't 829 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to compare draft classes because it's 830 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: the one that's ahead of you. They all have different personalities, 831 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: so like it's I don't know, it's like comparing this 832 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: guy to his cousin and like, well he doesn't look 833 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: exactly say well, yeah, yeah, different parents, there's some similarity. 834 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: But so there are definitely some players here that are 835 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: going to be great NFL players. The amount may not 836 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: be there because of just there's just something about the 837 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: raw talent that was in last year that you just 838 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: don't see here. 839 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 2: Well, definitely the raw talent in the Senior Bowl last year, right, Like. 840 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: There was Lattu. 841 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: Latu was here, right, who was like yeah was the 842 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: was the second rusher taken? And then you've got you know, 843 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: Talisi fu Wonga, You've got you know, Frasier was here, 844 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: you got Powers, Ja Jackson, Powers Johnson. All those guys 845 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: were damn near first round picks. 846 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: Right like they were. And so Mitchell was out of. 847 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 2: Here, Quinjon Mitchell, Lad McConkie was here right, just the Pennix, 848 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 2: bon Nickx, like Joe Milton was here, like talk about 849 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: freaky talent. Not quite the same in this Senior Bowl. Now, 850 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 2: I think this is where scouting, coaching, all these things 851 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: come together because there are future Hall of famers that 852 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 2: are probably playing in this game. We can't really see 853 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: them because you don't see the wow yet, right, But 854 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 2: there someone is in here, and whether it's the work ethic, 855 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: the mental composition, the physical traits, the interviews that we're 856 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: not getting access to, that's in there. And so I 857 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: think that's the fun part about this too, is saying, hey, 858 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: one of these guys, a couple of these guys are 859 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 2: going to hit. Can we distill it down in a 860 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: draft class that maybe he doesn't. And I'll say this, 861 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: I think there's good depth in it. The top end 862 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: isn't quite what the top end was last year. 863 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: I'll say that, Yeah, I would agree completely with that. 864 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: Like if you look at just yeah, let's let's look 865 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: at it the last year's draft, the top players at 866 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: their positions, Like all those guys hit like that is 867 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: so rare. 868 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: Joe Alt, Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams a lot too, Jared Verse. 869 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: Like elite neighbors, Thomas Jr. Marvin Harrison, rock Powers breaking records. 870 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not that may not happen this year 871 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: because that was such a uniqu year. But that doesn't 872 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: mean that this is a quote unquote down year. Yeah, 873 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: it's just different. Yeah, it's different. 874 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: Right, It's like the people that are going to hit 875 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: are going to be different. And we just talked about, 876 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: you know, like we're excited. Like a guy that again 877 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: didn't practice today, which was such a bummer because I 878 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: think he's got some tremendous ability, but a mad medboo 879 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: right from Missouri. He plays guard tackle. He's six four 880 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: three thirty five, long arms thirty four and a three 881 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: quarters like long guy for a tackle, like so a 882 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 2: little undersized but lightning quick. Right, So there's that guy 883 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: where you're saying, hey, if you get him in a 884 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan offense and he sits behind Trent Williams for 885 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 2: a year, is he the next kind of like really 886 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 2: explosive kind of playmaking tackle and he plays guard tackle? 887 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: Now you know what I'm saying. So finding homes those guys. 888 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 2: Josh Simmons, the tackle from Ohio State. 889 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: He looks so good on film, he's prob film. 890 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: You've played six games and he's got a ptell injury. 891 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: But like, there are guys here that are crazy talented. 892 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing Melf Kaiper said, which 893 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: I think is a great point, is that a lot 894 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 2: of the top guys in this class, like Will Johnson, 895 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: like the number two corner after a Hunter in this 896 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 2: class from Michigan, is banged up. You've played two games 897 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: this year, right, We just talked about Josh Simmons, who 898 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 2: again probably the number two to one tackle in this class, 899 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: banged up, right, and you go down the list, You're like, huh, right. 900 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: Like where is where's all? Where? Where do all these 901 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: pieces fall? They're all hurt. 902 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: A lot of them were hurt this year, and so 903 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a question about their ability 904 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: to translate to the next level. But that doesn't mean 905 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 2: they're not gonna be good pros. 906 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I agree. I think I think this is 907 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: where we should end today. Yeah, we'll be out at 908 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: practice tomorrow. We'll catch all of practice tomorrow, both practices. 909 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: Promis this time, we promise we're going to have interviews 910 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: coming for you. I'm going to make sure that we 911 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: we get some good ones on here. We'll probably have 912 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: somebody from pretty popular podcast here Draft Podcasts that you 913 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: hear someone we may have been referencing today. Yeah. I've 914 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: just been reaching out, been getting a lot of positive 915 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: feedback on guests, and we may have a really special 916 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: one this week too. Oh yeah, really special, big get 917 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: for not just Commanders fans, but for anybody who's a 918 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: fan of how the Commanders have turned things around this year. 919 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: Might have them on this week. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, 920 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: so we're gonna come after every single Senior Bowl practice, 921 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: we'll do a podcast and come to you live from Mobile, Alabama, 922 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: and then we're off to the Combine. I think would 923 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: be next, Well be next, Yeah, let's finish this one 924 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: up first then. Yeah, I'm we just got it. Just 925 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: feels like everything's moving so fast, like we were just 926 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 1: playing Philly just a couple of days ago, championship seventy 927 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: two hours ago. Yeah, that's well man, Jane and Daniels. 928 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,479 Speaker 1: He's good at football. What a good evol. I said 929 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: that to someone. 930 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: I said that to someone today, They're like, yeah, you 931 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 2: really got about that one? 932 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: Iota that? Yeah, good Evail? 933 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, man, Please make sure you check us 934 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: out tomorrow and we love talking draft. If you've got questions, comments, 935 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: please leave them in there for us. It always helps 936 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 2: us out. Like the subscribe we have to get your podcast, 937 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: and if you like this Commander's content, you can check 938 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: us out on the Commander's YouTube page. We got a 939 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: bunch of shows on there as well. But yeah, we'll 940 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: see you tomorrow and that's gonna do it for today's show.