WEBVTT - 2017 U.S. Open Recap 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.840 I miss a green for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.960 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.000 And when I find my ball in a brid egg, 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.479 Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Egg, Friday Frida Egg, Bride 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.120 Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.400 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.960 Friday Egg Podcast. It's your host, Andy Johnson, and I'm 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:53.320 joined by DJ Paiehowski of Scratch and Brendan Poorath of 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:59.240 sp Nation. Welcome on, guys, Amen, good to be here. Yeah, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.600 running it back again, running a back So I don't want. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.160 To uh think Tron, you know he needs to worry 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.160 about his roster spot here, but happy to fill in again. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.559 Well, Tron's got a you know, he's got bigger engagements. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.920 He's got you know, he's got big things going on. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:23.720 So we big timer he is. But you know that 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.080 that's his uh, that's part of his his pro trage holding. 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.120 So we were many fresh mm hmmm. I think this 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.400 is good though. This is like when when Bob Ryan 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:38.039 sits in on a pt I that's good. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.880 I love it, just a little a little some new 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.120 new takes new perspective, you know, a little less spicy, 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.320 a little more nuanced. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.920 So it's gonna make even spicier. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:59.840 Yeah, might become spicy at me. But you know, so 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:05.600 so Brooks Cavka, you're twenty seventeen US Open champ. What 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:06.320 do you guys think? 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.640 Man, I don't know, it's one of those things. I 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:15.440 think that like, there's nobody that's surprised that it happened. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.000 I don't think. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.960 I mean, he's a player that's played great at you know, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.400 big manly golf courses, which this certainly was, and you know, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.959 he's been in the moment, he's been close in majors. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.200 I mean, it's kind of the progression that you expect 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.880 from these guys where they show a bunch of talent, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.360 they you know, get close a couple of times, and 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.880 then they finally break through and like, yeah, I mean, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.639 it kind of turned into a bit of a snooze 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:44.480 fest unfortunately. I think, you know, Brooks Brooks hitting some 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.679 of the shots he did down the stretch made it 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.760 fun to watch. Not necessarily you know, interesting from a 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.120 competitive standpoint, but it was fun to just see just 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:53.440 some of the shots he pulled off, some of the 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.160 putts he made. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.720 I think it ith to borrow phrase. I think it 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:03.560 just it is what it is. Yeah, I mean, I. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.200 See, you know the barrow line. Many people are saying 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.440 that they had this. It's like a lawn shot call. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.680 But like you know, it's not a lawn shot for 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.840 anyone who knows anything about this. It's as expected. It's 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.720 it's it's no more shocking than I would say if 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.320 Ricky won today, or you know, Thomas won to day 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.000 or maybe even you know, if Speed's won, Like, yeah, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.320 Speed has more name recognition, but we kind of you know, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.200 Kopka only has one PGA Tour win, which you know, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.520 maybe you know, kind of the golf nerds. He's got 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.200 too much of a cult following, you know, that's not 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.000 commensurate with one, you know, waste management Phoenix Open win. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.560 But you know, I think everybody saw this as a possibility, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.119 and it's not really a launch shot win. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:51.680 It was it. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.200 You know, the day lacked a little kind of little 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.520 sizzle there, you know, but him streaking down the back 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.640 and maybe that's an old old man media complaint Andy 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.440 that it lacked sizzle, But you know, him streaking on 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.360 the back nine was cool. That was that was fun 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.600 to watch, just like JT the prior day on the 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:10.720 back nine was fun to watch. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.000 You know. That's what what I would ask you. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.480 Andy's kind of like, you know, you talked about how 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.400 this set up for every player, but what did you 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.560 think of like that? I thought fifteen was like a 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.359 great example of that. You know, it's hardest all on 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.560 the course Brooks is. Everyone just says power, power, power, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.800 like he's a masher, and then he played you know, 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.600 it makes a birdy. I'm fifteen, you know, just three 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.960 fifty six. That was kind of all strategy and touch. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.880 So I don't know, do you think that like a 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.240 firms that's going to affirm like the lazy take that 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:40.839 this was just a bomber's course. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.000 I've already heard it. You know, we expected a bomber 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.920 to win. But like Brooks won because he played the best, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.960 you know, like what he didn't hit any bad shots, 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.960 you know, it was it was fair away and then 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.200 green and then you know he rolled in some putts 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.560 and you know, you look down, you know fifteen or 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.640 you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, that was you know, those 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.799 were just incredible shots he hit over and over again 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.960 to make birdies there and basically put it put the 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.360 whole term into sleep. I mean, fourteen, you know, easy 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.640 birdie for him there, and then fifteen that web shot 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.520 was just so good. I mean, I don't I don't think. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.520 I don't think one of the things I don't think 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.480 Fox did was to give enough of a narrative of 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:34.479 how difficult fifteen was playing, because I mean, yeah, it was. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.880 It was a full shot harder than the day before, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.479 and a half a shot harder than the first two rounds, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.159 and it was already a tough hole, so you know, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.760 for him to hit that iron, it's a really hard 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.400 driving hole with that iron because it's really narrow. And 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.279 then he hits a wedge right up there to this 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.200 small back shelf. I mean, then he goes and birdie's 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.760 an X hole, which is a tough hull. Part three 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.680 I think. I mean, he was the best player this week. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.520 He hit what is it of his greens eighty eight 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.119 percent of his greens miss ten greens for the week. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.440 I mean there's a I mean, I think it was 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.680 cool though you saw Harmon was there playing a completely 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.320 different style of game. I mean, I know he's not 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.279 like he's not short as everybody wants him to say, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.360 but he's not long. You know, if that many people 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.600 expected him there, You saw Bill hass Is another one. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:28.200 He's in the top five. Completely different style player. You know, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.840 Patrick Reid thirteenth, Oh so close to his first top 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.200 ten in a major. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.880 Thought his Ryder Cup pants are going to carry him 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.640 to that top ten first ever. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.320 Yeah, I mean, I think the crazy thing, I think 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:46.760 people overlooked Kopka's major record coming into you know, he's 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:51.120 got a top ten at the at the British he 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.080 had a top five at the US Open, and two 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.919 top fives at PGA is coming into this week, Like, 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.919 you know, that's that's far better than JT's major record. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:08.000 It's probably about the same level as Ricky's. And you 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.800 know he he was flying under the radar for no 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.160 reason because he was playing great golf offspring. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.160 Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I think. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.880 You know, I was looking earlier today and we're kind 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.760 of texting back and forth with both of you guys 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.160 and looking at that cluster of guys that was you know, 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.560 there was whatever five six guys that were kind of 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.840 within a shot or two, and you know, you know, 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.560 it's a major Sunday and one of those guys is 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.720 at least is going to get just vaporized. And I 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.560 mean it's kind of hard to it's kind of hard to. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.240 It was kind of hard to pick out who that 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.040 person was going to be. And you know, I was 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.600 kind of thinking, like looking at Brooks, I'm like, eh, maybe, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.080 but you know, it's just yeah, he's he's been there 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.440 quite a few times, like more times than people realize 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.160 on the Sundays of these things. Here's Royder Cup is 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:53.280 another example too, And. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.640 So Kepka was the only player that shot four straight 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:58.840 under par rounds. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hard to beat. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.400 He played the best, and he was the most consistent. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.560 He was never in trouble all week. You know. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.800 Yeah, you kind of kept waiting for him to lose 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.040 it or to kind of hit some wayward balls or something, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.720 but I mean he just yeah, he was just never 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.520 in trouble. Like you know, he had maybe had a 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.720 couple of part like a couple of lengthy par putts 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.840 like that was when he's making bogie. He's not he's 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.239 not out there making doubles and the kind of stuff 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.080 that knocks out of contention. I mean, he just was 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.400 kind of impossible to catch. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.040 He bludgeoned it. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.800 Yeah, do you think that? 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:34.040 I mean, I don't know. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.960 Do you think that was kind of why he won't 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.360 Did he hit the right angle? Do you think he 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.360 just he wanted because he hit whatever three hundred and 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.720 seventy nine yards on eighteen and that kind of stuff. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.240 So it was interesting. I heard one of his, uh, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.800 you know, one of his post round interviews, and he 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.360 talked about how like he just was hitting driver and 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.000 hitting it far and he hadn't hit anything more than 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.600 a seven iron. You know, it didn't play long, and 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.760 I think it was a you know, there was a 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.160 lot of different ways to play the course, you know, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.160 I think I've written a lot about it. But his way, 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.640 what like, he went out there, took advantage of the 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:16.080 wide fairways and hit the driver spectacularly well you know 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.839 where he did not miss, you know, and that's what 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.920 DJ what Rory and what Jason Day did was they 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.280 didn't hit the ball well. You know, they missed a lot. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.840 And if you don't miss, then you're hitting drivers well 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.880 and you're hitting eight iron, nine iron wedge seven iron 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.360 and all these other guys are hitting six iron, five iron, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.640 four irons into greens, like your birdie puts are gonna 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.400 be shorter and you've got a lot less chance of 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.240 missing greens and a lot less chance of making bogey. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.200 I thought watching him this week and just kind of 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:53.520 his like his you know, just the fact that he 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.280 never did miss and he was just zoning for seventy 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.960 two straight holes. It felt a lot like watching Jason 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.280 Day a couple of years go. It just feels like 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.280 a super similar style. And it's almost like these two 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.160 guys that when they're on they're just like fully optimized 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.280 machines that just like can't miss, you know what I mean. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.079 I don't know if you got that. And I kind 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.480 of felt the same way as I feel when I'm 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.920 watching Jason Day, which is like, man, I know this 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.199 is like so impressive and awesome, but for some reason, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.760 I'm just like not that into it. Yeah, I felt, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:25.400 I mean you could. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.040 You definitely felt that way more even than the power 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.680 was like the putting the back to back on fifteen 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.480 and sixteen, where like just that trademark day like pouring 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.960 them in from whatever, like fifteen feet to like put 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.760 the gas down and you know, grind it, you know, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.280 just grind everyone else to dass. I thought like fifteen 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:46.800 was like ten feet coming back down. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.760 Yeah, that was six That was a hard putt. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.040 Sixteen was a pretty big you know vendor, you know, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.079 and that was whatever fifteen seventeen feet I can't remember, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.600 but you know that's like trademark day. Just smash and 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.920 then you know, be just like a machine on the greend. 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.280 Like you said, you know that was that was day 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:06.680 pre blade collar. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:12.000 That's true. Wow color. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.720 Yeah, Brooks is defiant and it kind of applaud him 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.800 in that regard. Defiantly anti blade. And you saw like 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.760 those little bubble boys, you know, the whatever Tron. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:28.120 Called them, like the there. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.959 Were so many different takes like Slushy Machine, Gender reveal. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.840 You know, Rory and Jason Day kind of ejected early, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:39.040 but you know, Nike Nike boy, Brooks defiantly anti blade 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.440 and he's there with the trophy. Makes you think. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.920 Something I saw think Jonathan Wall tweet yesterday that I 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:50.360 thought was so interesting is Brooks no equipment deal they 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.120 I didn't realize that he made himself a lot of 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:54.120 money today. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:55.280 Yeah. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.640 Absolutely, Yeah, it is curious. I wonder what the trade 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.920 off is with like, you know, if he like what 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.000 the incentives are if you win a major on those 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.560 equipment deals, like those things stack up. But I mean, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:09.840 I don't know what is Do you know what's in 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:10.280 his bag? 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.040 Like I know he has one Nike club. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.520 If Leeward is playing that Nike driver all week, it's awesome. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.480 I saw someone tweet like they're gonna have to start 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.959 making these clubs again if he wins. I remember I 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:28.040 said it, but I think I saw Taylor may Woods. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.640 I'm not sure. I don't want to. I don't want 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.960 to give it. Uh any kind of unpaid for brand 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:33.760 advertising here. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.319 Yeah, yeah, speculation, it's a big no. No, I'm the 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.439 fried Egg POD's Uh, I'm not. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.240 In the pocket of a big Carls bad. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:51.640 So Brooks twenty seven, top five, two, top five and PGA, Like, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:56.040 I mean, he's gonna win one of those. It seems like, yeah, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.360 top ten at an open, which should fit his game 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.079 really well if he gets the right side of the 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:09.400 draw and US opens should be I mean, like, is 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.880 is this the guy? I mean, like, how much I 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.440 honestly thinking about when I'm putting it when I was 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.840 just writing about this ah a little bit. Is is 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.160 like this guy could be one of the guys that 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.880 wins three four majors. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:24.320 Yeah, definitely. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.280 Well I think, you know, I don't know if it 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.440 was lessened by like the lack of presence, you know, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.800 chasing him just because like JT and Ricky kind of faded. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.000 But like his round to day was outrageous. It was 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.040 a sixty seven, and I don't know, like why if 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.600 it just kind of like why people were not like 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.560 freaking out the way they were maybe with he Decies 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.760 was arounded the day sixty six, and then after that 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.680 it was Brooks and he was already using the second 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.040 to last group and he's got a sixty seven. I'm 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.800 not sure like we're giving that number like the proper credit, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.720 just because maybe like no one was kind of pushing him, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.480 you know, it was just him. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.439 I mean, but Harmon was right there and then he vaporized. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.920 It right exactly exactly. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.320 And maybe that's why too, because there was just like 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.520 no one kind of keeping pay us, and all of 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.400 a sudden it got boring. I wasn't I don't know, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.280 it was odd. I don't think we're giving that sixty 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:15.120 seven enough credit. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.480 I think I think sometimes when you uh, you know, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.640 when you when you win by one and you come 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.000 and you burdy the last hole or something, it just 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.120 feels like a much better round than when you just 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.320 shoot a flaw as sixty seven, you know what I mean, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:34.160 Like winning by four almost hurts, like I don't know 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.000 if this makes any sense, but I mean it almost hurts, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.400 like how we look at the round because it just 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.400 doesn't feel close, and it just feels like he was 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.000 completely in control the whole time rather than actually like 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.400 responding to punches or something like that, which I think 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.520 is kind of what you're talking about, right, I think it. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.360 I think it's so interesting too, because, like you know, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.640 it was one of the most packed leaderboards and bunch 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.640 leader boards. It had big names, It had you know, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:04.040 it had Ricky and JT. Fleetwood is you know, becoming 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:09.400 a you know star in Europe. And this guy, yeah, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.840 I mean, this guy just blew them all out. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.120 To see it is funny, man, Like I forget who 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.520 I was talking about. This might have been earlier in 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.960 our pre tournament podcast, but just look at the last 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:27.040 what sixteen twenty majors something like that like the guys 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.360 who are winning these things. You know, there have been 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.080 a lot of pack leader boards and it hasn't been 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.000 the no name guys that emerge out of those packs 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.040 like almost ever. I mean, we're we're joking about it, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.080 and like, you know, the biggest quote unquote no name 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.600 guy was Danny Willett, who was like number fifteen in 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.920 the world or something when he won, right, and it's like, man, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.440 these guys are just to win one of these tournaments, man, 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.600 you've got to be just an absolute horse. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.360 That's what like the whole like, oh, you got a 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.920 lawn shot, like I had Brooks like that. That's like 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.680 bugs me, like and maybe that's just the nature of 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.000 kind of the whatever. This like the post Tiger era, 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.640 where like anyone who wasn't Tiger was you know, I 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.320 had him. I got that was like a good call 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.520 because I didn't pick Tiger. But like all these guys, 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.880 you know, we said, like the last seven first time 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.160 winners saved for Willett. But Willett was like a stud 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.200 at the time. You know, he's not right now, but 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.440 he was a stud when he won the Masters. Like 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:26.520 they're all completely you know, realistic, no Fluke, like totally 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.400 reasonable champions and nothing, nothing is shocking about this, And 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.080 I think maybe that's kind of just like how we're 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.000 adjusting to this like post Tiger era, where you know, 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.520 if it's a guy that maybe like Skip Balis has 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.520 never heard of, it's all of a sudden like some stunner, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:42.680 you know, Cinderella storm. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.000 But we haven't had any of those. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:49.160 I have. Skip was right a tall player one, that's true. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.320 All the short players kind of faded at the end. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:52.840 Is he six feet? 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.440 I mean, come on, I think Brooks? Is he that 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.440 short or that's not short? But he seems bigger than that. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.360 He does seem bigger than that. He's he's he's built 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.200 like a brick ship house. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.000 But I don't know he actually wanted to play baseball. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.080 If you guys heard, oh. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.040 I heard athletics running his family. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.160 But I know. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:19.960 So so, you know, I think we've talked enough about Brooks. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.280 What about girlfriend Gate? You have any thoughts on that? 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.399 Is that fit your you know, I think that's Andy's 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.520 audience is really into golf architectural Yeah, I think your 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.000 audience is really big into like the off the course 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:36.840 lifestyle choices of. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.680 These guys, it's amazing how many people like there's some 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:45.520 serious like bloodhounds out there rummaging through the Instagram archives 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.840 within second ridiculous. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:55.399 It's uh, it's whatever. You know, it's cool and neat 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:02.679 and fun, but curious who you got are thinking in 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.560 terms of like who's who was your most pleasant surprise 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.520 this week? Like what player? 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.000 I think for me it was in granted, you know, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:13.520 today's round went a long water. I think it was 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.840 hit Ecky. That was awesome to watch some of the 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.760 shots he was hitting, and like, you know, I think 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.640 we were saying earlier, you know, he's he's just done 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:25.320 in by his putting so often, and it was just 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.919 cool to see him you know, wholesome putts when they 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.480 really mattered and and not fade away and not make 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.280 you know, miss short chances and all that kind of stuff. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.480 I thought it was. I'm so pumped for him to 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.960 win one of these things, which which obviously doesn't seem 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:38.920 like it's very far off. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.320 Yeah, I mean obviously, like yeah, when he walked out 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.120 the eighteenth grade and I was just kind of like flabbergasts, like, God, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.280 this guy is such a killer, Like I love watching 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.320 this guy sixty six just kind of wasn't really on 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.200 TV until like the back nine fires of sixty six 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.919 like a day after it or two days after. You know, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.600 he could have shot maybe sixty three. You know, he 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.000 burned some edges on Friday. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.840 By the way, he opened with seventy four in the 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.440 first round, that's right, and then shut twell under he's 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.919 just the tournament. So I don't know. I mean, I 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.520 guess I'm going to Harmon was obviously so fun. 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:15.360 I mean, he's kind of he's not going to give 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.440 you like a ton of like fist pumps, which is cool, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.600 but he's just he's cool to watch, I think. And 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:25.359 you know, he had really no major kind of results. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.520 You know, he hadn't done a ton at the US, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:28.240 but he's cool. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:29.000 I love. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.160 I tweeted about it, you know, the X man when 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.520 he finished and looks like he just missed like a 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.160 master's exemption. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:38.399 But he was cool to follow. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.480 Like I got into him kind of randomly last year 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.240 at the web Web Finals event, and uh, you know, 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.439 because he had he had already got his card. It 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.320 was just I don't know, and some web guys tipped 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.240 me off saying he was on a run, so I 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:52.800 followed him. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:57.399 Well, no, he he got his card through finals right right, right, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:57.960 right right. 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.679 Right, So he was he was cool to watch this 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.520 week and his first, you know, ever US Open. He's 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.960 in double digit under par, which they said would win 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:07.760 what all the two US Open. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.359 He was, he's cool to watch. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.480 Yeah, he what I was impressed with. He shoots that 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.399 sixty six. He shoots seventy three, which wasn't bad backing 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.280 that up, you know, and that was right, you know, 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.159 and and then he comes back he I mean, he 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.280 played great. Most guys, you know, most of the younger 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.040 guys kind of faded on the weekend, you know, like 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:34.439 Cameron Champ faded. You know who else was up there? 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.080 They had, you know, basically guys that just you don't 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.800 expect their usually fade away. And he was there till 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.760 the end. You know, I was impressed as much as 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:53.879 I want to say Trey Mullnax my boy, but Tommy 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.040 Fleetwood because I was going to say too. You know, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.560 he hit some like really bad shots and had moments 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:04.000 where it could have gone really off the rails quickly, 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.480 but it never seemed to like he never seemed to 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.600 let go of the rope if that makes sense. You know, 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.520 like you know, when he had that that kind of 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:19.600 disaster on eighteen yesterday, but then hit that like unbelievable 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.520 chip back up to save Bogee after you know, playing 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:29.960 ping pong, and then today, you know, on four he 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.240 puts the ball off the green and you're like, oh boy, 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.200 this just could get out of hand. And then he 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.359 you know, managed to get up and down there save Bogie. 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.600 But like you know, he was you never felt like 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.560 he was gonna win, but you never felt like he 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.879 was out of it. You know, he had a chance. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.719 Yeah, he's got a fun game and good personality, good story. 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.520 I'm I'm in on the on seeing him a lot more. 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:56.840 What do you think about, uh, what do you think 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.840 about Pat Reid fading today? 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.040 I didn't think much, and I didn't think much beforehand, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.159 all right. I just thought, you know, I thought Tron's tweet, 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:10.560 believe it or not, was instructive. 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.320 You know, that is discrimination against his ball flight. 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.600 I mean, he had he had to kind of he 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.280 was trying to make a pretty desperate charge to get 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.000 up into that cluster that was you know at twelve 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:27.520 and eventually thirteen under. I think he just probably I 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:28.840 don't know, playing playing to win. 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.960 He just just going for and couldn't couldn't make the birdies. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.520 It is interesting that the days he played well were 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.320 Thursday and Saturday, which were the soft days, you know, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.080 I mean, well, there is probably something too. I mean, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.960 that's Andy's Andy's take, which I love, but there's something 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.399 to you know, just the hard draw into those greens. 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.280 It's like it's a tough one. 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.640 You know, as somebody that used to hit a hard draw. 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.680 You know, when he hit a hard draw, you eat 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:58.600 hot dogs, and when you eat a fit and when 0:22:58.640 --> 0:22:59.880 he hit a fade, you eat fully. 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.520 You know, you like Hogan. You like Hogan. 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:10.560 Here. Here's the thing with Reed like to be very 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:16.360 frank like. So Reed went thirteen greens on Thursday, thirteen 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:22.440 greens on Friday, shot one of the most I can't 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.520 believe people haven't talked more about this. He shot sixty five, 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.400 hitting twelve greens. He made eight birdies and only hit 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:36.760 twelve greens yesterday and today he hit eight greens. Like 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.159 simply put like that doesn't win you a US Open. 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:46.479 You know, you look at Kopka. Kopka hit seventeen greens today. 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:52.639 He hit fifteen greens yesterday. He hit fourteen greens the 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:57.240 day before and sixteen greens on Thursday. So you know, 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.560 Kepka's worst day was better than Reid's best day. T degree, 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.120 you know, it's you can't win the US Opens without 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:05.880 hitting the ball good. 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.720 Yeah, I made look sixty eight seventy five, sixty five, 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:11.639 seventy four. 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:17.320 That's rollercoaster. Yeah, Captain America. 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.879 It's he's I mean, he's great when when conditions are 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:27.160 soft and you know there's there's only so many pins 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.240 you can get at and it's tough to play in 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.479 the wind when your ball moves one way. You know, 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.520 it's it's just it's hard. What do you guys think 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.320 about JT and Ricky? 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.160 Yeah, I don't know. I just saw Will Gray tweeting, 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.719 you know, but that, like Thomas said, he struggled to 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.960 not like read all about his sixty three on his 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.560 phone yesterday. I don't know, it was just he said, Uh, 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.399 I don't know, it's interesting. I don't know that it 0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.679 was necessarily like unexpected after the high of yesterday, it 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.360 seemed like that would have been hard to back up. 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.640 You know, I don't know, I was kind of more 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:11.040 disappointed with Ricky really just not really again, like it's 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.560 hard to say with Kepcaz shooting at sixty seven, like 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.720 you can't fault these guys for not keeping pace with that. 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:20.280 But I just kind of expected Ricky to not seemed 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.720 like he played like a little. 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.040 Conservatively down the stretch. 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:24.480 I don't I don't know. I don't not trying to 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:28.720 go brand All Poulter here, but uh, it just kind 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.680 of wanted a little bit more and expected a little 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.000 bit more of Fouler. 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.760 I think on the JT front. I mean, I guess 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:40.199 I'm not super super familiar with his wins. I mean 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.800 I guess enough that you know that, like they've all 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.639 kind of been these like really massive margins of victory. 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.520 I don't think we've really seen him go out and 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.320 like grind one out quite yet, you know what I 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.280 mean Where I think, I think when it starts to 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.480 go sideways, I think that's why. I think. That's why 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.560 I just like, I'm like the biggest speef in the 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.239 world is like that guy just fights and fights and 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.360 fights and fights, and he'll miss a shot and then 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.120 you know he's back making birdie on the next hole. 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.800 And it seems like when things start to go sideways 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.840 with JT. I mean he gets you know, it's well 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.240 documented that he starts throwing clubs, he starts finding things 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.800 to blame that kind of stuff, And I mean everybody 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.960 kind of externalizes things differently, I'm sure, but that's just 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:24.640 kind of the feeling you get when you're watching him 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.080 is like, man, it just doesn't look like a guy 0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:32.120 that's going to like dig deep and you know, fight 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:33.760 back and get back into it. 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.600 I will say I was surprised he was. I wasn't 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.560 surprised that, you know, he didn't win or it was 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.040 pushing at the end. I was surprised he was basically 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.879 completely ejected from the broadcast by the fifth pole, like 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.600 we just he was dumped by the fifth pole. I 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.160 was a little surprised by that. 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.120 Yeah, I mean I think it's incredibly hard to back 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.920 up really really great rounds. Nothing ever seems to go right, 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.840 you know it. It's just something that's very hard, and 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:05.879 it's I think it was a bad break that he 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:10.399 got into that last group. I think if he was 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.440 not in the last group, it would have been a 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:13.000 lot better. 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:14.280 That's interesting. 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:19.639 Yeah, I think so Fowler made the turn and I 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.600 texted somebody's like, you know, it kind of felt like 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:27.879 Fowler had weathered some you know storm, and it was like, oh, 0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.640 like here's where he's I think he ripped one on time. 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.480 You know, it's like, oh, you know, like this is 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.440 where he could turn it on and put together a nine. 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.479 And I feel like that's kind of where we've gotten 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.520 with Ricky, is that he gets to this back nine 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.439 in a major and you're and you're waiting to see 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.399 what he did at the Players, happened in a US 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.880 Open or a Masters, or because like the Masters this year, 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:58.919 he was still in and and it just doesn't happen. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:00.960 He did that yesterday. 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.280 I mean after he bogied the thirteenth and he's kind 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.480 of like, you know, after sitting on top of leerboard 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.920 for thirty six holes, or you know, at near the top, 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.760 he bogees thirteen and he's like, uh, followers, like you know, 0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.320 falling out again. Then he birdies three in a row 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.960 fourteen through sixteen, and yeah, the course is harder today, 0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.399 but I still, like you said, I think we're just 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:22.320 kind of expecting some you know, one more punch there 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.000 on the back nine. 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:24.359 He didn't really do it today. 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.840 I think. I think though, you know, you get close 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.800 in golf and you have these moments of like where 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.480 you don't where it doesn't go your way, and the 0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.480 key is just keep putting putting yourself in that situation. 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:40.160 I think, you know, it's becoming where he's he's becoming 0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.000 more and more prevalent again. It's more of a matter 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.600 of when, not if. 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.960 Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, I would be surprised 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.440 that he's not there again in whatever three or four 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.440 weeks at Birkdale. 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.960 Speaking of Birkdale, one guy you definitely got to look 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:05.040 at for that. Uh. West Wood a little one fifty 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:05.840 one on the weekend. 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:13.360 You know, west the Island is uh, you know, you 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.440 see like you know, something like a you know, a 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.040 beach town post hurricane. That's kind of the state of 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.400 Westwood Island right now. 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.920 It kind of feels like one of those one of 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.239 those towns in like the Northwest that used to be 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:32.760 like a really big, like forestry place and then kind 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.120 of all these logging companies left and now they're just 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.200 like really desolate and kind of like full of crystal 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.840 meth and kind of delusional people. That's what west That's 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.520 what West. The island kind of feels like to. 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.320 Me right now, you know you're your. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.680 Man, the crackpots that are still still inhabiting it, or 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.400 just you know, just no sense of reality whatsoever. 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.920 I just want you to know, your big man, big 0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.160 leash is down two to one to West this year. 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.560 Sure, or that's true. 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:05.959 We got two more, We got two more West West? 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:07.760 You know he uh. 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.360 I would say Tour championship as well, but West would 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:11.200 definitely will not be there. 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:15.360 So this is the I would say, this is probably 0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.520 the last year for Westy. Do you think, well he's 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:20.959 gonna fall out of the top fifty. 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.080 What was he saying about the golf course? 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.160 I don't know that. I need to. I need to 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:32.120 he needs to answer my tweet, dear sir, because because 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.960 there could be a I could be packing up, I 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.280 could be shuddering up and out off Lesty Island, if 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:40.920 you know, if he answers that the wrong way? 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:42.880 What did he say? What did he say? I didn't 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:43.479 actually see it. 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.480 I think that it was he was asking about the 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:51.120 course and relation to par you know, basically, I mean 0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.440 Westwood likes when scores around par like he's not gonna 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:59.480 wine when it's he's not going to shoot sixteen under. Yeah, 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.840 but he can shoot even part you can get two 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:08.080 under four under six hunderd. Yeah. It's a you know, 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.440 he's a fairways greens machine and this week it didn't 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:15.240 work out. It's a you know, he's but he's a 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.000 guy that could go out on a on a really 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.360 really windy day at Birkdale and shoot like at sixty 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.040 eight when everybody else shoots seventy five. 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:28.320 Yeah, what did you uh so, what did you think 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.400 of how it played today? You wish it had been 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.320 like that? You know, you said the fifteenth you'd like 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.400 when the fifteen is a full stroke harder and then 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.960 you know, generally the course overall it was a lot 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.760 like is that that's how they wanted to play basically. 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.680 I mean it still wasn't firm, you know, like yeah, 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:49.840 firm like when guys can hit shots and there's no 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.520 you know, there's no penalty for being out of position 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.680 as much, you know, when the greens are soft, and 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.120 I mean you see it week to week. It's it's 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.479 one of the sad things about the PGA Tour is 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:05.760 like how rarely it plays firm and fast, you know, 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:10.040 it's it's the best defense because then all of a sudden, 0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.400 when you miss the fairway, you know, it becomes that 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.640 much harder to hit the green. It makes it, you know, 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.360 from the fairway even you have to be so dialed in. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.680 I mean it firm and fast is the way to go. 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.640 And that course was never firm and fast. And you know, 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.920 if that place is firm and fast and it's windy, 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.760 it's a disaster, you know it, it might have gone 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.200 the complete opposite way, where people are like this is 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:36.840 out of control hard. 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.640 That's my problem with all the people yesterday saying it 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.240 was too easy, they're like the same people who you 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.680 know today probably said it was boring because you know, 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.080 it was harder and more even par scores, and then 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.120 they'd say it was tricked up and unfair if you know, 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.080 the leader was a two over or something. 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.520 There's just kind of people are never happy. I think 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.200 for me, it either has to be I mean, not 0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:58.800 just for me. I'm sure this is pretty obvious, but 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.800 I think that where it's super exciting like yesterday, where 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.480 people are making birdies and eagles and all kinds of 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.720 things that obviously those are incredible to watch and I 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.480 think the days when it is brutally difficult and guys 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.000 are just getting ejected constantly is when it's good to 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.600 watch it. Today just like felt really stuck in the middle, 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.080 which I think was a lot of you know, had 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.440 a lot to do with the course being damper than 0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.440 they wanted to and them having to kind of you know, 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.600 put a lot of front pins to kind of try 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:29.240 to protect a lot of the holes and stuff. I 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:30.760 think it just kind of, I don't know, it's kind 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.680 of set up to be set up to be a 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.160 good day, like in relation to par or whatever, you know, 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.320 to to not have another big scoring day, but it 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.640 was also set up to just kind of, you know, 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.080 it was set up to kind of be what it was. 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.840 It was kind of a little flat and not all 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:46.720 that crazy interesting. 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.640 So you think we're going back. That was the big thing, 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:53.040 Like Chambers is, you know, never coming here again. 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:54.280 And there was you know, a. 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.640 Speculation that might get one of those whatever like four 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.440 balls or something. Then they didn't get that. 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.320 Seems like people think we're gonna get this again. Everyone else. 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.360 I hope it does. I mean, I think it was. 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:11.400 I just I wrote an article about this yesterday, but 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:16.520 like this was the first US Open where being long 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.840 for the most part, with the exception of guys like 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:24.760 Jim Perrick, but like being extremely great off the tee 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.239 wasn't a prerequisite. And I think that's so good for 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.680 golf because like you got to see Brian Harmon, Like 0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:37.800 if this is at Oakmont, Brian Harmon is probably fortieth Brooks. 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.600 It would have still won, you know, but you wouldn't 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.120 have had I don't think Xanderschaffle would be up there. 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.240 Bill Has certainly wouldn't have been on the leader board. 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:58.760 Shay Revey, I mean stricker future. Yeah. It allowed different 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:03.480 styles of play and what makes other players great be showcase, 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.440 you know, And I think that that's the cool thing. 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:12.720 Patrick Reed hitting twelve greens and shooting sixty five. Yeah, 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.440 his short game was out of control and that wouldn't 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:18.959 happen if there was you know, eight inch rough around 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:19.840 the greens. 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.120 But like three times yesterday. 0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.200 Yeah, the short that short grass, like the short grass 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:32.040 around the greens. Really great pictures of the ball, like 0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.440 feast on that and guys like Westwood are putting and 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.440 having them roll back down to their feet. 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.239 Right, can we just can I kind of bring that 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.560 up for a s. I love how the US opened 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.120 that those chipping areas, the US Open makes these terms 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.799 of art and closely Moaned became a a now like 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.880 hit it to the Closely Moon, like's just like facts 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.000 and these guys just throwing these terms out. It's ridiculous 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.719 the calmarrain and I love it, like only at the 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.279 US opens these like these terms just become you know, 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.520 ubiquitous closely Moans. 0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.400 What do you guys think coming back? 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.040 I hope So I loved it. I mean I thought 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.640 it was awesome. I think anytime you know I'm biased, 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.600 of course, but anytime you go to the Midwest, I 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:21.040 think you get awesome crowds of like good golf fans 0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.560 and people who are like pretty hungry for these kinds 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.000 of tournaments and support them well and all that kind 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:31.040 of stuff. And so I mean, yeah, I was all in. 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.480 I mean, I think they got a little unlucky with 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.000 some poorly timed rain, but other than that, I mean, 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.320 I don't really think you can. I don't think you 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.359 can say anything bad about it. I mean good, good winner, good, 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.080 you know, good setup, everything was, everything was good. 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.919 I thought, Yeah, I'm totally fine with it going back. 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.400 I think it's just you get this hostility to new 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.920 venues because there is so much competition and there are 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.520 so many classic courses, even just in the Midwest that 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.359 you want majors going to that are kind of off 0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:57.800 the RODA. 0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.600 And I guess that's is that. 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.279 Like you need property to accommodate these and maybe the 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:07.759 course layout is sometimes secondary to the operations being able 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.880 to set up across the property. 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:11.520 And that's where it seems like the USJA is kind 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.520 of like is kind of doing a cool thing. I mean, 0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.000 I'm sure if you remember at one of these like 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.480 really classic courses, you're not into this trend, but you 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:21.640 know this this kind of model that they're building now 0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.239 where they're they're kind of building these golf courses specifically 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:29.920 to host US opens is you know, it's just interesting, 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.600 I think, and like that's kind of what they did 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.920 with Chambers Bay. It feels like, and you know, I 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.520 think it backfired. I still low key think that a 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.120 US opens is going to go back to Chambers Bay. 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:40.719 Not for a long time, but I think it will 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.560 just because I don't know, I feel like they've got 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.319 so much skin in the game when they when they 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:49.440 develop these venues that way, and I don't know, I'm 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.160 kind of cool with it. It's basically them kind of 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:57.520 building their building their stadiums around the country. Basically, Yeah, 0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:59.839 I uh yeah, I think. 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.200 I mean, and like, let's let's keep in mind that 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:07.279 Aaron Hills was was up against cog Hill Number four, 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:13.640 which got a got a restoration, just got just got 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:18.520 the character just wiped right off its face. And like, frankly, 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.480 I wouldn't even say it's one of the fifty best 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:26.120 courses in Chicago anymore. So Wow, it's just it's sad 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.040 what happened to that course. So as much as I 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.920 would have loved like the twenty minute drive from my 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.600 apartment there, it it wouldn't have been as good as 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:37.360 Aaron Hills. 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:44.759 So there any upcoming Chicago majors. No, No, nothing on 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:45.120 the raidar. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.200 I don't think we've got a We don't have like 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:54.879 we've got Madonna, which is you know, the PGA thing, 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.560 you know it. I just don't think it really like 0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:01.240 does and get the juices flowing? 0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:03.640 Yeah, I agree. 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.960 Olympia Fields. The problem is it's south of the city, 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.759 so you don't have like the fan base like you 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.319 where you draw fans for golf tournaments, isn't it from 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.560 the north and the west, So you need it, you know, 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:23.880 to be in one of those two areas. Butler is 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:29.040 the course that would be the ideal US Open course. 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:34.520 I mean, that place could host it tomorrow. But they 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.080 are all men, and if if I forgot my shoes, 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.600 my fiance would have to drop them off at the gate. 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.719 So don't think. I don't think that's gonna fly. 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:49.319 I don't think Diana Murphy's going there anytime soon. So 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:53.640 until they dropped that, I don't think we'll get we'll 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:57.600 get anything big for a while. I just don't think, 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.239 you know, frankly, I don't think we have a rate 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.759 of we have great golf courses. We don't have great 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:06.520 We don't have Shinnacock, we don't have Marion. We we 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.200 just don't have one of those pedigree We don't have Oakmont. 0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.760 You know, Shinnakock should be awesome, though I heard they're 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:20.279 they're really I heard of their widening faaraways and the 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:24.000 trend is real and they've been expanding greens, so we 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.000 should see a lot of what we saw at Aaron 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.280 Hills at Shinnakok, awesome. 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.359 I think that speaks to the question, is the USGA woke? 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.879 I think that's more Shinnacock's woke, you know, Yeah, yeah, 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:38.120 I think. 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.799 I mean, I feel like the pretty they gotta have 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.279 kind of carp launch over what happens at a lot 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:44.600 of these. 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:49.160 Venues, right Well, they're getting it back to the original design. Yeah, so, 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.680 you know, I think it's just the overall trend of 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:56.480 classic courses is getting green sizes back, getting fairways back 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.120 to original wits and and it's it's a way out 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.560 or golf. We saw it this week. Just when fairways 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.440 are wide, it lets all types of players play. It's 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.160 not just who can hit their driver best. 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:09.759 Yeah. 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:15.520 So let's do a quick overrated, underrated. Let's do it, 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:16.440 John Rob. 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:25.160 Oh wow, that's a good one. Brendon, I'll let. 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:30.799 You go first. I will say underrated. I think the 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.319 backlash is just too too hot this week. So now 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.360 he's gone too he was he was, he was, he 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.879 was catching a little too much trendy hype, and now 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.480 he's back to being underrated because people think he's you know, 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:44.080 too hot. 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.680 Yeah, I agree, I think he Yeah, I think he 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:54.759 was so underrated that he became overrated, which makes him underrated, right, Yeah. 0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.840 I agree, what about it? I mean, I'm in on 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:57.920 throwing bunker. 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:07.120 Rings, punching signs, love it, love it. I'm I'm I'm 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.759 still in on him. I like we talked about with 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.279 j T. It's it's tough when things start going the 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:21.120 wrong way. But uh, underrated backlash was high. See who 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.879 kim Oh? 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:23.840 Underrated? 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.879 Underrated? Just a killer. I watched him last night. I'm 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.480 such a fan. He did a flash, he did he 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.360 did a press conference with no translator. You know, he's 0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:37.400 I love it, I love it. He's just he's just 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.040 a killer. Well, all these other guys are antsy. He's 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:43.200 just like deadpan, ready to go out and carve it up. 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.080 Yeah, you know it said finally, I was watching live 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:51.480 from last night and finally, you know, Brandle was like, 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.600 you know, we might need to look at last year's 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.120 statistics instead of this year's and realize that this guy 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.399 made it to the you know, tour chances. It's like, right, 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:09.239 like when you see a series of withdrawals from tournaments 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:12.400 and miss cuts, like their serious. Probably something going wrong. 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:16.000 You know, Yeah, I think he's a he's he would 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.560 be a good. I know you guys both love the 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.799 player A player B. Take the names away comparison, and 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.319 if you said, you know, you have this twenty one 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:30.880 year old kid who has won a players, won another 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.480 tour events, made it to the Tour Championship, all this stuff. 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:38.880 I mean like if he was, you know, named Michael 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.720 Smith instead of Seewoo Kim, I think he would probably 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.759 be a lot more popular. Frankly, I mean it's it's 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:46.600 one of those things that like, I don't know what 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.440 else he can do to like show people how good 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:50.160 he is here. 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.719 Here's a good question, good follow up on this, Like 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.120 who's got a more impressive career? Him or John Robb? 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.319 Yeah, I don't know, you Wiu. I think I think 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:06.120 John Ram is a He's like he has the benefit 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.080 of just us knowing more about him because he went 0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.120 to college here and because he played some other tour 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.520 events before getting his card and all that kind of stuff. 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.840 He just had a little bit of like built in cachet. 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.759 But again, kind of the player A player B Like 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.160 right now they see. 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.399 Kim right, he's younger too. 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.440 Yeah, really I don't know that. 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.360 Yeah, John twenty one, Yeah, John Ram's twenty two. Or 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:34.440 twenty three. So yeah, you got it's kind of crazy. 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:40.439 It's uh you know, so uh I had another one? 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:41.160 What do I have? 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.200 Oh? How about Fox? 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:44.360 Fox? 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:45.880 Overrated and underrated? 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:56.000 Ooh underrated, underrated. I think there's just still that stigma 0:44:56.080 --> 0:45:00.239 attached in Chambers. But like you know, people have watched 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:03.840 the last two years. No, they've improved that. What do 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:04.720 you think, Andy? 0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:15.400 I love how many golf shots they show. I I 0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:22.160 don't think that is laboring, you know, really yeah, how 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:22.600 good was that? 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.160 How good was having Gil hands out there? 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.239 It's good? But here's the thing is like they they 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:31.200 didn't let Gil Hants like really go in. You know. 0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.520 That's something that bothered me is they have they have 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:39.680 this world class architect up there, and they put who 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.560 do they put next to him? Some of the time 0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:43.040 they had Darren Clark next to him. 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:43.600 Clark. 0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.040 It's like, let this guy like go in like what 0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:52.640 Gil hans for thirty seconds, like he can do stuff, 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.960 but like give him like a real thing and let 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.240 him like he knows what you know, and have somebody 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.719 help him and say like hey these are this is 0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:05.479 this type of player, like explain why they're playing well here, 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:08.680 you know, explain why this is doing, like why this 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.000 is happening, explain like and that is what you know, 0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.640 Like you had this guy here and he said some 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:18.040 insightful things, but he never they never took something to 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.759 the next level where I was like, whoa, like you know, 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.439 like this is like you know, And I think that's 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.200 the thing they're missing out on is that they I 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.359 don't know if it's they don't have anybody there that 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.400 can like that can coach Gil up to that to 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.920 get to that point and maybe that like there is 0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.840 the issue where you could you know, say like let's 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.040 talk about that, you know, like and he'd once you 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.960 lead him into the right direction, he probably would come 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.359 up with pure goals. But I feel like he never 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.520 got led into the right spot. 0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.719 I think even just having him have a seat at 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.759 the table, so to speak, is like a good step 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.160 in the right direction because I think a lot of 0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:01.960 the former players are really good. Johnny comes to mind 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.000 for sure, as guys who can put you in the 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.600 moment and like describe what's going on. But a lot 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.600 of them, I mean have a tendency to you know, 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:11.920 Darren Clark was was okay. I don't know that I 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.000 really heard anything from him that was like went beyond 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.839 kind of cliche and like, you know, kind of taking 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.520 up space. But so I think having just having a 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.560 really really really smart non player at the table, I 0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:26.400 think it's good just for balance. 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.520 I guess by like one kind of I don't know, 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:33.160 I hate playing like medium budsmen all the time because 0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:36.239 this stuff's hard. But I guess like what you're saying is, 0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.360 I would think there's like too many people at the 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.560 table sometimes, and Grant, when you're on the air for 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.440 more than nine hours, like you can't have I just 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.640 want more of their best people. And I know that's 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.799 hard when you have like a nine plus hour broadcast, 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:49.680 but like, I don't know, it just seemed like there 0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.840 were too many people, like they'd throw it to Holly Saunders, 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.960 who like does like a fifteen second introduction of like 0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:59.160 a Shane O'donahue video essay on like the fields of Wisconsin. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.760 You know, just just felt like there's too many people 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.800 do it and not getting enough exposure. You know, you 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:07.160 want more of the best people. 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.680 See. That's that's kind of my point, is like I 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:15.799 don't think they gave Gil enough time to really to 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.399 get let him get what he could have given out, 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.240 Like there is so much he could have This golf 0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.120 course was like an architecture in Nirvana for a modern 0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:30.359 architect because like it was you know it it had 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:35.200 so many little like intricacies and so many little things. 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.120 And in like just talking about like what happened with 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:42.239 the leader board was you never see this at a 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:46.080 US Open, and like they'd never let Gil talk about, Hey, 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.960 why did Ricky? Like what did this course do? That 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:52.920 made the top three guys? Rory, Jason Day and Dustin 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.680 Johnson missed the cut? That wouldn't have happened at Oakmont? 0:48:56.520 --> 0:49:00.160 You know, why did this happen here? You know? And 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.680 in trying to kick it over and give him something 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:06.879 where he could say like this is why, right? 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.400 But did you think overrated? Underrated? 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.839 I don't think I think underrated. I think a lot 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.560 of I don't disagree with anything that you're saying. I mean, 0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:19.440 I think there's room for improvement, but there's always room 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:20.000 for improvement. 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:21.640 I think underrated too. 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.280 Yeah, And I think that a lot of the stuff 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:28.560 that they kind of quote unquote messed up is stuff 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.000 that's really TICKI tech that I don't really care about 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.640 and it's it's messing up the name of the girlfriend. 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.680 Like I mean, I don't care about that, like whatever, 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.600 just do a good job like showing the golf, and 0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:43.360 I think that kind of they're outside the course stuff, 0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:48.680 Like I keep bringing it up, but I'm dead serious. 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.880 Like the Ken Brown brownie point stuff about how the 0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.600 holes are playing was so awesome. I was like made 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.600 everybody in the room stop talking when those came up, 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.720 because like you learn so much about like these holes. 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.080 And I tweeted something about it, but like my favorite 0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:07.400 part about that was just it's such a good indicator 0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:12.400 of like how quote unquote easy it is to like 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:16.480 make impactful segments on these broadcasts. And like what they 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.000 did with those things was they went out there with 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.480 one camera. They took one take. There were no cuts. 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.760 It's just Ken Brown riffing. And it probably took six 0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:27.759 minutes to shoot that thing. I mean, he knew what 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.040 he was going to talk about when he got out there. 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:32.400 But like it's not like it requires a huge graphics 0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.480 package and a huge like you know, a camera crew 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.600 shooting for three days to get all the b roll 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.680 for these features. Like no, just like take somebody who 0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:43.000 really is passionate and knows exactly what they're talking about 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.080 and has a good personality and can carry a segment 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:48.480 and just turn them loose and let them go do that. 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.960 And I think that's what you don't see on the 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:55.040 week to week telecasts, at least not nearly often enough. 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.120 And I think that the other thing was they didn't 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.840 do a lot of the big the big features and 0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:02.480 the big kind of like essays and packages and stuff. 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.160 And I thought a lot of those were you know, 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.440 I think a lot of times those segments have a 0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:11.360 tendency to answer questions that like nobody's asking or like 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:16.560 care about. And these segments were all, like I thought 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.440 they were all did a great job of like explaining 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.759 something that you either we're curious about or should be 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.000 curious about. And like they did a really really good 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.879 job with that. And our boy, our boy Bacon did 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.520 well as well. That's always fun to do, always fun 0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:31.279 to see. 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.440 Fun to cool to see him ye up on the 0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:36.759 big screen. Uh yeah, I would just say, you know, 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:39.040 I know those segments like they have to do some 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.320 tape segments because to break up the live stuff. Sometimes 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:45.239 they're sold and advertisers thing like that, like yeah, that's 0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:47.320 exactly what you should do. And maybe because like it 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.120 appeals to us because we're already in the boat, like 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.279 we're golf nerds. We're watching this. We don't need, like, 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.080 you know, the emotional essay on whatever else. But like 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.080 him just with a whiteboard and like a basketball or 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.600 with the balls, like showing us the open the grain 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.880 was had me locked in. I was completely locked in. 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:05.799 And the other times, like when we do those tape 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.719 bits for whatever, a normal PGA tour broadcast, I'm like, 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.200 you know, wandering off and looking at something on my computer. 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.080 I just don't care. But I was locked in. 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.160 Yeah, I don't know. I think it's good. I think 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.040 it's only only gonna get better. Yeah, actually I think it. 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.160 It kind of a lot of the stuff, I mean, 0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.200 everybody points out, like the pro tracer stuff, but like 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.520 there's a lot of things that I think, you know, 0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:29.720 the CBS and NBC producers are probably watching that broadcast 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.359 very very carefully and looking at a lot of these 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:35.319 ways that you know, they're incorporating things that that you 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.000 don't see in a week to week basis. So hopefully 0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:40.000 it kind of keeps pushing the pushing the ball forward. 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.360 Or pushing the stick higher or lower, whatever the metaphor. 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:47.319 Is, Hey, last one. 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:54.399 Par It's the most the most overrated thing there is. 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.719 It just doesn't matter, like you're, yeah, you're gonna get 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:03.040 contensus here matter, it's over right, Car's over. 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:09.840 It's so dumb. It really has it. It doesn't matter 0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:14.960 at all, Like to me to a certain extent, Johnny's right. 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:21.880 Oh yeah, Johnny's always right. How how much would you 0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.640 have paid to have Johnny in azing your seat today? 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:25.760 Watching JT? 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:31.080 Well, I think what got buried yesterday was him, you know, 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.000 calling at the Milwaukee Open and calling it like an 0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.960 easy setup. But those were like the headliners. But what 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:40.560 got buried was like the other quotes, like the specialness 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.239 of my round is not altered by this. I did 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.640 this in the final round the US Open at Oakmont. 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.319 The specialness he said, the specialness of my round is 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:50.920 completely not impacted. 0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:54.080 This does not hold up to it, So how could 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:54.680 you disagree? 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.279 I texted ZB last night and I was like, what, 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:02.560 uh what is it? Andy? His caddy who caddied for Johnny? 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.439 What what does Andy think about this? And he texts 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:10.799 it back. He goes, Oh, Andy says Johnny's was five 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:22.000 shots better at least. Oh man, that's great, five shots 0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:23.280 better at least. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:29.880 So good. 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.600 That guy, he's great. 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.799 He would have been on there today, like DJ said, 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:37.560 just roasting. 0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.560 You know. Jas's like I told you the specialness of 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.560 my rout. He can't. You know, it's just different dynamic. 0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.080 It's one thing to do it on a Saturday, it's 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:47.719 another to do it on Sunday. 0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:52.160 That's right. Hey, can I throw it at Andy real quick? 0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:52.560 Yeah? 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:56.240 Do you think it's overrated or underrated? Is it wise 0:54:56.880 --> 0:55:01.160 or crooked? With the misdirection of another Illinois grad actually 0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:04.160 wearing Badger red in Wisconsin? 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:13.160 You know I heard that is his daughter place on 0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:19.600 the Wisconsin golf team. All right, so all right, some 0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:22.080 some pod listeners inform me. 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:24.400 But it's like you're flip flip flopping. 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:26.680 No, no, no, it's still very dishonest. 0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:30.080 I think it's just good marketing. I think he's just 0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.680 playing to play into the crowd. It's like it's like 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.040 the guy with like a Lakers sticker on his bumper 0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:39.160 and a Yankee sticker on his bumper. Let's see at 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:43.160 the John Der Classic what he wears. I've been to 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:44.560 have a little blue and orange out there. 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.359 You can't have it both ways, you can. 0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:50.960 It's a nuanced position. You're all about nuanced. You know, 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.800 everything's not black and white. Just broadening his base. 0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:59.439 I think he knows he lives in Madison. He knows 0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:04.279 who utters his bread. You know, he knows, he knows that. 0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:06.560 You know, when he hits the Senior Tour, there's gonna 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.200 be some it's gonna be some more local sponsorships. You know. 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:12.640 I'll tell you what. He's got his Champions Tour event 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:15.239 next week. They playing it, they play it in uh 0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:17.839 you rich in Champagne, or they play it. 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:24.799 In Madison, MS. Just the Daughter is a good cover 0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:25.880 that makes sense. 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.120 Alone. I'm thinking everyone pilot on strigger. 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:30.359 All the time. 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:32.920 When when. 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:36.799 Just let the guy be. 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:41.960 Let me tell you when when, Uh, how about he's 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.600 surge to beat Jordani Brugie. He almost lost Low, Wisconsin. 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:50.360 It's true, he won Low Alna predicted. 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.120 I don't even know if he is an a Lini anymore. 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:03.280 Oh man, all right, yeah, we'll ended on that depressing note. 0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:06.080 All right, Well, good week, Thanks for all the thanks 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.719 for the takes. Andy, good stuff, Andy, brilliant stuff. This 0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:12.080 week on the course. I really really appreciate that. 0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:16.160 Yeah, you know, I do what I can not. All 0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:17.840 heroes wear capes right. 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:24.320 Shining light, shining light in the darkness. Ignorant takes well, 0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.440 you know I didn't. 0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:29.919 I did actually break my rule and talk about how 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.200 far somebody hits it. 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:36.040 That's true. So it was a note. 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:40.280 Yeah, but then I'm a champ. Yeah. Then I misled 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:46.000 poor Wrath and I played collar Sean Foley for text. 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:50.160 That's true, that's true. Yeah, he's a nuanced character. 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.080 Yeah. 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:54.320 Hey, overrated errated Sean Foley. 0:57:56.040 --> 0:58:00.600 Oh, I feel like he used to be overrated and 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:04.400 now it's cooled so that he might be underrated. 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.720 Now totally the rob thing. He got so rated that 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.280 he became underrated I think. 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:17.080 So you know, I'm gonna go overrated just because Brandle 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:21.040 and him teamed up to do like some segment together. 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:26.560 Saw that and it made me cringe it what how 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.080 how did Brandle do that? 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:33.640 Wow, it's pretty weak principle. 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:35.640 He gave in. 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:41.400 Yeah, I was shocked when I saw that. It's a 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.120 forthcoming show or something it sounds like. But they they 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.120 used some footage this week. I was I was shocked 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:47.920 when I saw that. 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.680 That's good to see guys bury the hatchet. Yeah, there 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:51.920 can be peace in this world. 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:55.800 Yeah, exactly, there can. But do you think that was 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.760 because of crookedness? 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:04.800 I don't know. That's for the next podcast. 0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:07.160 Well, we'll leave it up in there. We'll let we'll 0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:08.520 let the listeners. 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.720 That's good. But this podcast provides more questions than answers, 0:59:11.760 --> 0:59:15.200 which is exactly what you want. Yeah, any great art. 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:21.000 All right, you guys have a have a great night 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:24.320 and actually a really exciting week next week at the 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.320 Travelers pump Field. 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:28.560 Oh yeah, one, two, three. 0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:32.160 You know it might there might be rumors that the 0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:33.880 Travelers is the new US Open. 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:36.919 That's what a lot of people are saying. Yeah, Phil, 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:38.040 many people are saying that. 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:42.200 Yeah, phil Phyi'll believe that right is either travelable par 0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:43.400 four fifteen. 0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:46.600 You know they were there first. Yeah, that's the one question, 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.440 and I know we're wrapping up. That's the one question. 0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.760 Would Brooks have won? Is there an asterisk on this 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:55.960 US Open without Phil? Or first major without Phil? Or 0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:59.760 Tiger since nineteen eighty four? You know, again, I don't 0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:02.200 have the answer. I think we're just you know, providing 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:05.040 more questions and answers let the listeners aside, I. 1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:07.040 Got a great story from the media more. 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:09.280 Like the more like the listener. I guess an hour 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:11.600 and five minutes into the podcast, we. 1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:14.160 Said we were going to do this like in thirty minutes. 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:17.960 So this is a phenomenal story from the media center. 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:22.240 This week, I went to say hello to Jay Rigdon, 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:28.160 who I'd never met before, and great guy. And right 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.800 next to him is this guy I forgot his name, 1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:35.560 and he just pipes into our conversation and he goes, 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:41.560 you know, I talked to Bones today for about fifteen 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.919 to twenty minutes. He says, Phil is going to try 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:45.640 and come. 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:48.760 And Sally wasn't even there this week. 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:55.160 So I turned I and I, you know, this guy's 1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:57.840 never met me. I turned, I looked at him and 1:00:57.880 --> 1:00:59.920 I go, you know, you know what, I'm tired of 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:03.080 talking about a guy that has zero chance to win 1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:06.120 this tournament. I turned it back to Jay. 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:15.440 I kept talking, Wow, savage, Andy, Andy is better than 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:18.560 anyone I know, completely just icing down someone looking for 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.560 a conversation. It's on at the players first hand that 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:26.000 he just completely puts a wall up and shoots it 1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:29.200 down right away. Amazing, amazing, pre eminent talent. 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:33.040 You must be real. Yeah, you must be really fun 1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:34.160 in elevators. 1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:38.400 You know. I don't want people to get a wrong impression. 1:01:38.480 --> 1:01:40.840 I am very friendly, but you know, I had not. 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.440 I didn't want to talk about Phil. I'd already seen 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:47.800 eight thousand stories written about the same thing with no updates, 1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:52.480 stories every day about the same exact thing, and I 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:58.600 really didn't want to hear about it. Man, So we'll 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:00.439 we'll now land on that note. 1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:29.960 Alright, alright, alright guys, thanks, have a good one, yeah,