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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 2: Friday Egg Podcast. It's your host, Andy Johnson, and I'm

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Speaker 2: joined by DJ Paiehowski of Scratch and Brendan Poorath of

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Speaker 2: sp Nation. Welcome on, guys, Amen, good to be here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: running it back again, running a back So I don't want.

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Speaker 3: To uh think Tron, you know he needs to worry

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Speaker 3: about his roster spot here, but happy to fill in again.

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Speaker 2: Well, Tron's got a you know, he's got bigger engagements.

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Speaker 2: He's got you know, he's got big things going on.

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Speaker 2: So we big timer he is. But you know that

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Speaker 1: So we were many fresh mm hmmm. I think this

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Speaker 2: I love it, just a little a little some new

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Speaker 2: new takes new perspective, you know, a little less spicy,

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna make even spicier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, might become spicy at me. But you know, so

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Speaker 2: so Brooks Cavka, you're twenty seventeen US Open champ. What

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Speaker 2: do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a player that's played great at you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it ith to borrow phrase. I think it

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Speaker 3: it's it's no more shocking than I would say if

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Speaker 3: maybe you know, kind of the golf nerds. He's got

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think everybody saw this as a possibility,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I think.

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Speaker 2: So Kepka was the only player that shot four straight

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Speaker 2: He played the best, and he was the most consistent.

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Speaker 1: Is that fit your you know, I think that's Andy's

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Speaker 1: It is interesting that the days he played well were

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Saturday, which were the soft days, you know,

436
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, there is probably something too. I mean,

437
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Speaker 1: that's Andy's Andy's take, which I love, but there's something

438
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Speaker 1: to you know, just the hard draw into those greens.

439
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Speaker 1: It's like it's a tough one.

440
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Speaker 2: You know, as somebody that used to hit a hard draw.

441
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Speaker 2: You know, when he hit a hard draw, you eat

442
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Speaker 2: hot dogs, and when you eat a fit and when

443
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Speaker 2: he hit a fade, you eat fully.

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Speaker 1: You know, you like Hogan. You like Hogan.

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Speaker 2: Here. Here's the thing with Reed like to be very

446
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Speaker 2: frank like. So Reed went thirteen greens on Thursday, thirteen

447
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Speaker 2: greens on Friday, shot one of the most I can't

448
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Speaker 2: believe people haven't talked more about this. He shot sixty five,

449
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: hitting twelve greens. He made eight birdies and only hit

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Speaker 2: twelve greens yesterday and today he hit eight greens. Like

451
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Speaker 2: simply put like that doesn't win you a US Open.

452
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Speaker 2: You know, you look at Kopka. Kopka hit seventeen greens today.

453
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Speaker 2: He hit fifteen greens yesterday. He hit fourteen greens the

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Speaker 2: day before and sixteen greens on Thursday. So you know,

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Speaker 2: Kepka's worst day was better than Reid's best day. T degree,

456
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Speaker 2: you know, it's you can't win the US Opens without

457
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Speaker 2: hitting the ball good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I made look sixty eight seventy five, sixty five,

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Speaker 3: seventy four.

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Speaker 1: That's rollercoaster. Yeah, Captain America.

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Speaker 2: It's he's I mean, he's great when when conditions are

462
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Speaker 2: soft and you know there's there's only so many pins

463
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Speaker 2: you can get at and it's tough to play in

464
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Speaker 2: the wind when your ball moves one way. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's just it's hard. What do you guys think

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Speaker 2: about JT and Ricky?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I just saw Will Gray tweeting,

468
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Speaker 3: you know, but that, like Thomas said, he struggled to

469
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Speaker 3: not like read all about his sixty three on his

470
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Speaker 3: phone yesterday. I don't know, it was just he said, Uh,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's interesting. I don't know that it

472
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Speaker 3: was necessarily like unexpected after the high of yesterday, it

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Speaker 3: seemed like that would have been hard to back up.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, I was kind of more

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Speaker 3: disappointed with Ricky really just not really again, like it's

476
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Speaker 3: hard to say with Kepcaz shooting at sixty seven, like

477
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Speaker 3: you can't fault these guys for not keeping pace with that.

478
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Speaker 3: But I just kind of expected Ricky to not seemed

479
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: like he played like a little.

480
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Speaker 1: Conservatively down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I don't not trying to

482
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Speaker 3: go brand All Poulter here, but uh, it just kind

483
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Speaker 3: of wanted a little bit more and expected a little

484
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Speaker 3: bit more of Fouler.

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Speaker 1: I think on the JT front. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm not super super familiar with his wins. I mean

487
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Speaker 1: I guess enough that you know that, like they've all

488
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Speaker 1: kind of been these like really massive margins of victory.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've really seen him go out and

490
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Speaker 1: like grind one out quite yet, you know what I

491
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Speaker 1: mean Where I think, I think when it starts to

492
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Speaker 1: go sideways, I think that's why. I think. That's why

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Speaker 1: I just like, I'm like the biggest speef in the

494
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Speaker 1: world is like that guy just fights and fights and

495
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Speaker 1: fights and fights, and he'll miss a shot and then

496
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Speaker 1: you know he's back making birdie on the next hole.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like when things start to go sideways

498
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Speaker 1: with JT. I mean he gets you know, it's well

499
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Speaker 1: documented that he starts throwing clubs, he starts finding things

500
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Speaker 1: to blame that kind of stuff, And I mean everybody

501
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of externalizes things differently, I'm sure, but that's just

502
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Speaker 1: kind of the feeling you get when you're watching him

503
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Speaker 1: is like, man, it just doesn't look like a guy

504
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Speaker 1: that's going to like dig deep and you know, fight

505
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Speaker 1: back and get back into it.

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Speaker 3: I will say I was surprised he was. I wasn't

507
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Speaker 3: surprised that, you know, he didn't win or it was

508
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Speaker 3: pushing at the end. I was surprised he was basically

509
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Speaker 3: completely ejected from the broadcast by the fifth pole, like

510
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Speaker 3: we just he was dumped by the fifth pole. I

511
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Speaker 3: was a little surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's incredibly hard to back

513
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Speaker 2: up really really great rounds. Nothing ever seems to go right,

514
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: you know it. It's just something that's very hard, and

515
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: it's I think it was a bad break that he

516
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: got into that last group. I think if he was

517
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Speaker 2: not in the last group, it would have been a

518
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: lot better.

519
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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

520
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so Fowler made the turn and I

521
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: texted somebody's like, you know, it kind of felt like

522
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: Fowler had weathered some you know storm, and it was like, oh,

523
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: like here's where he's I think he ripped one on time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh, you know, like this is

525
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: where he could turn it on and put together a nine.

526
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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's kind of where we've gotten

527
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Speaker 2: with Ricky, is that he gets to this back nine

528
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Speaker 2: in a major and you're and you're waiting to see

529
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Speaker 2: what he did at the Players, happened in a US

530
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Speaker 2: Open or a Masters, or because like the Masters this year,

531
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Speaker 2: he was still in and and it just doesn't happen.

532
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Speaker 1: He did that yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I mean after he bogied the thirteenth and he's kind

534
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Speaker 3: of like, you know, after sitting on top of leerboard

535
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: for thirty six holes, or you know, at near the top,

536
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Speaker 3: he bogees thirteen and he's like, uh, followers, like you know,

537
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Speaker 3: falling out again. Then he birdies three in a row

538
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: fourteen through sixteen, and yeah, the course is harder today,

539
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Speaker 3: but I still, like you said, I think we're just

540
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: kind of expecting some you know, one more punch there

541
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Speaker 3: on the back nine.

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Speaker 1: He didn't really do it today.

543
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Speaker 2: I think. I think though, you know, you get close

544
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Speaker 2: in golf and you have these moments of like where

545
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: you don't where it doesn't go your way, and the

546
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: key is just keep putting putting yourself in that situation.

547
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's becoming where he's he's becoming

548
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: more and more prevalent again. It's more of a matter

549
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: of when, not if.

550
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, I would be surprised

551
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Speaker 3: that he's not there again in whatever three or four

552
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Speaker 3: weeks at Birkdale.

553
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Birkdale, one guy you definitely got to look

554
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Speaker 1: at for that. Uh. West Wood a little one fifty

555
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Speaker 1: one on the weekend.

556
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Speaker 2: You know, west the Island is uh, you know, you

557
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: see like you know, something like a you know, a

558
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: beach town post hurricane. That's kind of the state of

559
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Westwood Island right now.

560
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Speaker 1: It kind of feels like one of those one of

561
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Speaker 1: those towns in like the Northwest that used to be

562
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Speaker 1: like a really big, like forestry place and then kind

563
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Speaker 1: of all these logging companies left and now they're just

564
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: like really desolate and kind of like full of crystal

565
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: meth and kind of delusional people. That's what west That's

566
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Speaker 1: what West. The island kind of feels like to.

567
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Speaker 2: Me right now, you know you're your.

568
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Man, the crackpots that are still still inhabiting it, or

569
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: just you know, just no sense of reality whatsoever.

570
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Speaker 2: I just want you to know, your big man, big

571
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: leash is down two to one to West this year.

572
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Speaker 1: Sure, or that's true.

573
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Speaker 2: We got two more, We got two more West West?

574
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Speaker 2: You know he uh.

575
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Speaker 1: I would say Tour championship as well, but West would

576
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: definitely will not be there.

577
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Speaker 2: So this is the I would say, this is probably

578
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: the last year for Westy. Do you think, well he's

579
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Speaker 2: gonna fall out of the top fifty.

580
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Speaker 1: What was he saying about the golf course?

581
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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I need to. I need to

582
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Speaker 2: he needs to answer my tweet, dear sir, because because

583
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Speaker 2: there could be a I could be packing up, I

584
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: could be shuddering up and out off Lesty Island, if

585
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, if he answers that the wrong way?

586
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Speaker 1: What did he say? What did he say? I didn't

587
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: actually see it.

588
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Speaker 2: I think that it was he was asking about the

589
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: course and relation to par you know, basically, I mean

590
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Speaker 2: Westwood likes when scores around par like he's not gonna

591
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: wine when it's he's not going to shoot sixteen under. Yeah,

592
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: but he can shoot even part you can get two

593
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: under four under six hunderd. Yeah. It's a you know,

594
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: he's a fairways greens machine and this week it didn't

595
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: work out. It's a you know, he's but he's a

596
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: guy that could go out on a on a really

597
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: really windy day at Birkdale and shoot like at sixty

598
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: eight when everybody else shoots seventy five.

599
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you uh so, what did you think

600
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: of how it played today? You wish it had been

601
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: like that? You know, you said the fifteenth you'd like

602
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: when the fifteen is a full stroke harder and then

603
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, generally the course overall it was a lot

604
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: like is that that's how they wanted to play basically.

605
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean it still wasn't firm, you know, like yeah,

606
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: firm like when guys can hit shots and there's no

607
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, there's no penalty for being out of position

608
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: as much, you know, when the greens are soft, and

609
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean you see it week to week. It's it's

610
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 2: one of the sad things about the PGA Tour is

611
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: like how rarely it plays firm and fast, you know,

612
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: it's it's the best defense because then all of a sudden,

613
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: when you miss the fairway, you know, it becomes that

614
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: much harder to hit the green. It makes it, you know,

615
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: from the fairway even you have to be so dialed in.

616
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: I mean it firm and fast is the way to go.

617
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: And that course was never firm and fast. And you know,

618
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: if that place is firm and fast and it's windy,

619
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Speaker 2: it's a disaster, you know it, it might have gone

620
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: the complete opposite way, where people are like this is

621
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: out of control hard.

622
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: That's my problem with all the people yesterday saying it

623
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: was too easy, they're like the same people who you

624
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: know today probably said it was boring because you know,

625
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: it was harder and more even par scores, and then

626
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: they'd say it was tricked up and unfair if you know,

627
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: the leader was a two over or something.

628
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: There's just kind of people are never happy. I think

629
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Speaker 1: for me, it either has to be I mean, not

630
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: just for me. I'm sure this is pretty obvious, but

631
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I think that where it's super exciting like yesterday, where

632
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: people are making birdies and eagles and all kinds of

633
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: things that obviously those are incredible to watch and I

634
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: think the days when it is brutally difficult and guys

635
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: are just getting ejected constantly is when it's good to

636
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: watch it. Today just like felt really stuck in the middle,

637
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: which I think was a lot of you know, had

638
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: a lot to do with the course being damper than

639
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: they wanted to and them having to kind of you know,

640
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: put a lot of front pins to kind of try

641
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: to protect a lot of the holes and stuff. I

642
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: think it just kind of, I don't know, it's kind

643
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: of set up to be set up to be a

644
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: good day, like in relation to par or whatever, you know,

645
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to to not have another big scoring day, but it

646
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: was also set up to just kind of, you know,

647
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: it was set up to kind of be what it was.

648
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: It was kind of a little flat and not all

649
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: that crazy interesting.

650
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: So you think we're going back. That was the big thing,

651
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: Like Chambers is, you know, never coming here again.

652
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: And there was you know, a.

653
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: Speculation that might get one of those whatever like four

654
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: balls or something. Then they didn't get that.

655
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Seems like people think we're gonna get this again. Everyone else.

656
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: I hope it does. I mean, I think it was.

657
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: I just I wrote an article about this yesterday, but

658
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: like this was the first US Open where being long

659
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: for the most part, with the exception of guys like

660
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: Jim Perrick, but like being extremely great off the tee

661
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: wasn't a prerequisite. And I think that's so good for

662
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: golf because like you got to see Brian Harmon, Like

663
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: if this is at Oakmont, Brian Harmon is probably fortieth Brooks.

664
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: It would have still won, you know, but you wouldn't

665
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: have had I don't think Xanderschaffle would be up there.

666
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: Bill Has certainly wouldn't have been on the leader board.

667
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: Shay Revey, I mean stricker future. Yeah. It allowed different

668
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: styles of play and what makes other players great be showcase,

669
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, And I think that that's the cool thing.

670
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 2: Patrick Reed hitting twelve greens and shooting sixty five. Yeah,

671
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: his short game was out of control and that wouldn't

672
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 2: happen if there was you know, eight inch rough around

673
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: the greens.

674
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: But like three times yesterday.

675
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the short that short grass, like the short grass

676
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: around the greens. Really great pictures of the ball, like

677
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: feast on that and guys like Westwood are putting and

678
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: having them roll back down to their feet.

679
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: Right, can we just can I kind of bring that

680
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: up for a s. I love how the US opened

681
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: that those chipping areas, the US Open makes these terms

682
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: of art and closely Moaned became a a now like

683
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: hit it to the Closely Moon, like's just like facts

684
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: and these guys just throwing these terms out. It's ridiculous

685
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: the calmarrain and I love it, like only at the

686
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: US opens these like these terms just become you know,

687
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: ubiquitous closely Moans.

688
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: What do you guys think coming back?

689
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I hope So I loved it. I mean I thought

690
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I think anytime you know I'm biased,

691
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: of course, but anytime you go to the Midwest, I

692
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: think you get awesome crowds of like good golf fans

693
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: and people who are like pretty hungry for these kinds

694
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: of tournaments and support them well and all that kind

695
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: of stuff. And so I mean, yeah, I was all in.

696
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they got a little unlucky with

697
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: some poorly timed rain, but other than that, I mean,

698
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't really think you can. I don't think you

699
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: can say anything bad about it. I mean good, good winner, good,

700
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, good setup, everything was, everything was good.

701
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: I thought, Yeah, I'm totally fine with it going back.

702
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: I think it's just you get this hostility to new

703
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: venues because there is so much competition and there are

704
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: so many classic courses, even just in the Midwest that

705
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: you want majors going to that are kind of off

706
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: the RODA.

707
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: And I guess that's is that.

708
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: Like you need property to accommodate these and maybe the

709
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: course layout is sometimes secondary to the operations being able

710
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: to set up across the property.

711
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: And that's where it seems like the USJA is kind

712
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: of like is kind of doing a cool thing. I mean,

713
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you remember at one of these like

714
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: really classic courses, you're not into this trend, but you

715
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: know this this kind of model that they're building now

716
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: where they're they're kind of building these golf courses specifically

717
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: to host US opens is you know, it's just interesting,

718
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: I think, and like that's kind of what they did

719
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: with Chambers Bay. It feels like, and you know, I

720
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: think it backfired. I still low key think that a

721
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: US opens is going to go back to Chambers Bay.

722
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: Not for a long time, but I think it will

723
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: just because I don't know, I feel like they've got

724
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: so much skin in the game when they when they

725
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: develop these venues that way, and I don't know, I'm

726
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of cool with it. It's basically them kind of

727
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: building their building their stadiums around the country. Basically, Yeah,

728
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: I uh yeah, I think.

729
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean, and like, let's let's keep in mind that

730
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: Aaron Hills was was up against cog Hill Number four,

731
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: which got a got a restoration, just got just got

732
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: the character just wiped right off its face. And like, frankly,

733
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say it's one of the fifty best

734
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: courses in Chicago anymore. So Wow, it's just it's sad

735
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: what happened to that course. So as much as I

736
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: would have loved like the twenty minute drive from my

737
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: apartment there, it it wouldn't have been as good as

738
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Hills.

739
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: So there any upcoming Chicago majors. No, No, nothing on

740
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: the raidar.

741
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't think we've got a We don't have like

742
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: we've got Madonna, which is you know, the PGA thing,

743
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: you know it. I just don't think it really like

744
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: does and get the juices flowing?

745
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

746
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: Olympia Fields. The problem is it's south of the city,

747
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: so you don't have like the fan base like you

748
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: where you draw fans for golf tournaments, isn't it from

749
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: the north and the west, So you need it, you know,

750
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: to be in one of those two areas. Butler is

751
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: the course that would be the ideal US Open course.

752
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that place could host it tomorrow. But they

753
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: are all men, and if if I forgot my shoes,

754
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: my fiance would have to drop them off at the gate.

755
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: So don't think. I don't think that's gonna fly.

756
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: I don't think Diana Murphy's going there anytime soon. So

757
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: until they dropped that, I don't think we'll get we'll

758
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: get anything big for a while. I just don't think,

759
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: you know, frankly, I don't think we have a rate

760
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: of we have great golf courses. We don't have great

761
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: We don't have Shinnacock, we don't have Marion. We we

762
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: just don't have one of those pedigree We don't have Oakmont.

763
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: You know, Shinnakock should be awesome, though I heard they're

764
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: they're really I heard of their widening faaraways and the

765
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: trend is real and they've been expanding greens, so we

766
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: should see a lot of what we saw at Aaron

767
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: Hills at Shinnakok, awesome.

768
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: I think that speaks to the question, is the USGA woke?

769
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: I think that's more Shinnacock's woke, you know, Yeah, yeah,

770
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: I think.

771
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the pretty they gotta have

772
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: kind of carp launch over what happens at a lot

773
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: of these.

774
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: Venues, right Well, they're getting it back to the original design. Yeah, so,

775
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's just the overall trend of

776
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: classic courses is getting green sizes back, getting fairways back

777
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: to original wits and and it's it's a way out

778
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: or golf. We saw it this week. Just when fairways

779
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: are wide, it lets all types of players play. It's

780
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: not just who can hit their driver best.

781
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

782
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: So let's do a quick overrated, underrated. Let's do it,

783
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: John Rob.

784
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a good one. Brendon, I'll let.

785
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: You go first. I will say underrated. I think the

786
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: backlash is just too too hot this week. So now

787
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: he's gone too he was he was, he was, he

788
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 3: was catching a little too much trendy hype, and now

789
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: he's back to being underrated because people think he's you know,

790
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: too hot.

791
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think he Yeah, I think he

792
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: was so underrated that he became overrated, which makes him underrated, right, Yeah.

793
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: I agree, what about it? I mean, I'm in on

794
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: throwing bunker.

795
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: Rings, punching signs, love it, love it. I'm I'm I'm

796
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: still in on him. I like we talked about with

797
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: j T. It's it's tough when things start going the

798
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: wrong way. But uh, underrated backlash was high. See who

799
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 2: kim Oh?

800
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: Underrated?

801
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: Underrated? Just a killer. I watched him last night. I'm

802
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: such a fan. He did a flash, he did he

803
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: did a press conference with no translator. You know, he's

804
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: I love it, I love it. He's just he's just

805
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: a killer. Well, all these other guys are antsy. He's

806
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: just like deadpan, ready to go out and carve it up.

807
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it said finally, I was watching live

808
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: from last night and finally, you know, Brandle was like,

809
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, we might need to look at last year's

810
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: statistics instead of this year's and realize that this guy

811
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: made it to the you know, tour chances. It's like, right,

812
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: like when you see a series of withdrawals from tournaments

813
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: and miss cuts, like their serious. Probably something going wrong.

814
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I think he's a he's he would

815
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: be a good. I know you guys both love the

816
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: player A player B. Take the names away comparison, and

817
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: if you said, you know, you have this twenty one

818
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: year old kid who has won a players, won another

819
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: tour events, made it to the Tour Championship, all this stuff.

820
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean like if he was, you know, named Michael

821
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: Smith instead of Seewoo Kim, I think he would probably

822
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: be a lot more popular. Frankly, I mean it's it's

823
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: one of those things that like, I don't know what

824
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: else he can do to like show people how good

825
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: he is here.

826
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: Here's a good question, good follow up on this, Like

827
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: who's got a more impressive career? Him or John Robb?

828
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, you Wiu. I think I think

829
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: John Ram is a He's like he has the benefit

830
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: of just us knowing more about him because he went

831
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: to college here and because he played some other tour

832
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: events before getting his card and all that kind of stuff.

833
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: He just had a little bit of like built in cachet.

834
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: But again, kind of the player A player B Like

835
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: right now they see.

836
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: Kim right, he's younger too.

837
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, really I don't know that.

838
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, John twenty one, Yeah, John Ram's twenty two. Or

839
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: twenty three. So yeah, you got it's kind of crazy.

840
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: It's uh you know, so uh I had another one?

841
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: What do I have?

842
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh? How about Fox?

843
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: Fox?

844
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Overrated and underrated?

845
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: Ooh underrated, underrated. I think there's just still that stigma

846
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: attached in Chambers. But like you know, people have watched

847
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: the last two years. No, they've improved that. What do

848
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 3: you think, Andy?

849
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: I love how many golf shots they show. I I

850
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: don't think that is laboring, you know, really yeah, how

851
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: good was that?

852
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: How good was having Gil hands out there?

853
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: It's good? But here's the thing is like they they

854
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: didn't let Gil Hants like really go in. You know.

855
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: That's something that bothered me is they have they have

856
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: this world class architect up there, and they put who

857
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: do they put next to him? Some of the time

858
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: they had Darren Clark next to him.

859
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: Clark.

860
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: It's like, let this guy like go in like what

861
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: Gil hans for thirty seconds, like he can do stuff,

862
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: but like give him like a real thing and let

863
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 2: him like he knows what you know, and have somebody

864
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: help him and say like hey these are this is

865
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 2: this type of player, like explain why they're playing well here,

866
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, explain why this is doing, like why this

867
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: is happening, explain like and that is what you know,

868
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: Like you had this guy here and he said some

869
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: insightful things, but he never they never took something to

870
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: the next level where I was like, whoa, like you know,

871
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 2: like this is like you know, And I think that's

872
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: the thing they're missing out on is that they I

873
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: don't know if it's they don't have anybody there that

874
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: can like that can coach Gil up to that to

875
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: get to that point and maybe that like there is

876
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: the issue where you could you know, say like let's

877
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: talk about that, you know, like and he'd once you

878
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: lead him into the right direction, he probably would come

879
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: up with pure goals. But I feel like he never

880
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: got led into the right spot.

881
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: I think even just having him have a seat at

882
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: the table, so to speak, is like a good step

883
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: in the right direction because I think a lot of

884
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: the former players are really good. Johnny comes to mind

885
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: for sure, as guys who can put you in the

886
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: moment and like describe what's going on. But a lot

887
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: of them, I mean have a tendency to you know,

888
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: Darren Clark was was okay. I don't know that I

889
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: really heard anything from him that was like went beyond

890
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: kind of cliche and like, you know, kind of taking

891
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: up space. But so I think having just having a

892
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: really really really smart non player at the table, I

893
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: think it's good just for balance.

894
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: I guess by like one kind of I don't know,

895
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: I hate playing like medium budsmen all the time because

896
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: this stuff's hard. But I guess like what you're saying is,

897
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: I would think there's like too many people at the

898
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: table sometimes, and Grant, when you're on the air for

899
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: more than nine hours, like you can't have I just

900
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: want more of their best people. And I know that's

901
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: hard when you have like a nine plus hour broadcast,

902
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: but like, I don't know, it just seemed like there

903
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 3: were too many people, like they'd throw it to Holly Saunders,

904
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: who like does like a fifteen second introduction of like

905
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: a Shane O'donahue video essay on like the fields of Wisconsin.

906
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 3: You know, just just felt like there's too many people

907
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: do it and not getting enough exposure. You know, you

908
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: want more of the best people.

909
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: See. That's that's kind of my point, is like I

910
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: don't think they gave Gil enough time to really to

911
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: get let him get what he could have given out,

912
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: Like there is so much he could have This golf

913
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: course was like an architecture in Nirvana for a modern

914
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: architect because like it was you know it it had

915
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: so many little like intricacies and so many little things.

916
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: And in like just talking about like what happened with

917
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: the leader board was you never see this at a

918
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: US Open, and like they'd never let Gil talk about, Hey,

919
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: why did Ricky? Like what did this course do? That

920
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: made the top three guys? Rory, Jason Day and Dustin

921
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: Johnson missed the cut? That wouldn't have happened at Oakmont?

922
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: You know, why did this happen here? You know? And

923
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: in trying to kick it over and give him something

924
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: where he could say like this is why, right?

925
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: But did you think overrated? Underrated?

926
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't think I think underrated. I think a lot

927
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: of I don't disagree with anything that you're saying. I mean,

928
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: I think there's room for improvement, but there's always room

929
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: for improvement.

930
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: I think underrated too.

931
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that a lot of the stuff

932
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: that they kind of quote unquote messed up is stuff

933
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: that's really TICKI tech that I don't really care about

934
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's messing up the name of the girlfriend.

935
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't care about that, like whatever,

936
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: just do a good job like showing the golf, and

937
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: I think that kind of they're outside the course stuff,

938
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: Like I keep bringing it up, but I'm dead serious.

939
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Like the Ken Brown brownie point stuff about how the

940
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: holes are playing was so awesome. I was like made

941
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: everybody in the room stop talking when those came up,

942
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: because like you learn so much about like these holes.

943
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: And I tweeted something about it, but like my favorite

944
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: part about that was just it's such a good indicator

945
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: of like how quote unquote easy it is to like

946
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: make impactful segments on these broadcasts. And like what they

947
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: did with those things was they went out there with

948
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: one camera. They took one take. There were no cuts.

949
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: It's just Ken Brown riffing. And it probably took six

950
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: minutes to shoot that thing. I mean, he knew what

951
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: he was going to talk about when he got out there.

952
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: But like it's not like it requires a huge graphics

953
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: package and a huge like you know, a camera crew

954
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: shooting for three days to get all the b roll

955
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: for these features. Like no, just like take somebody who

956
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: really is passionate and knows exactly what they're talking about

957
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: and has a good personality and can carry a segment

958
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: and just turn them loose and let them go do that.

959
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you don't see on the

960
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: week to week telecasts, at least not nearly often enough.

961
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: And I think that the other thing was they didn't

962
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: do a lot of the big the big features and

963
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: the big kind of like essays and packages and stuff.

964
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: And I thought a lot of those were you know,

965
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times those segments have a

966
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: tendency to answer questions that like nobody's asking or like

967
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: care about. And these segments were all, like I thought

968
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: they were all did a great job of like explaining

969
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: something that you either we're curious about or should be

970
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: curious about. And like they did a really really good

971
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: job with that. And our boy, our boy Bacon did

972
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: well as well. That's always fun to do, always fun

973
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: to see.

974
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: Fun to cool to see him ye up on the

975
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: big screen. Uh yeah, I would just say, you know,

976
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: I know those segments like they have to do some

977
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 3: tape segments because to break up the live stuff. Sometimes

978
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: they're sold and advertisers thing like that, like yeah, that's

979
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 3: exactly what you should do. And maybe because like it

980
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: appeals to us because we're already in the boat, like

981
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: we're golf nerds. We're watching this. We don't need, like,

982
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, the emotional essay on whatever else. But like

983
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: him just with a whiteboard and like a basketball or

984
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: with the balls, like showing us the open the grain

985
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: was had me locked in. I was completely locked in.

986
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: And the other times, like when we do those tape

987
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: bits for whatever, a normal PGA tour broadcast, I'm like,

988
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, wandering off and looking at something on my computer.

989
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: I just don't care. But I was locked in.

990
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's good. I think

991
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: it's only only gonna get better. Yeah, actually I think it.

992
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: It kind of a lot of the stuff, I mean,

993
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: everybody points out, like the pro tracer stuff, but like

994
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I think, you know,

995
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: the CBS and NBC producers are probably watching that broadcast

996
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: very very carefully and looking at a lot of these

997
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: ways that you know, they're incorporating things that that you

998
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: don't see in a week to week basis. So hopefully

999
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: it kind of keeps pushing the pushing the ball forward.

1000
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: Or pushing the stick higher or lower, whatever the metaphor.

1001
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: Is, Hey, last one.

1002
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: Par It's the most the most overrated thing there is.

1003
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: It just doesn't matter, like you're, yeah, you're gonna get

1004
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: contensus here matter, it's over right, Car's over.

1005
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: It's so dumb. It really has it. It doesn't matter

1006
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: at all, Like to me to a certain extent, Johnny's right.

1007
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Johnny's always right. How how much would you

1008
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: have paid to have Johnny in azing your seat today?

1009
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: Watching JT?

1010
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think what got buried yesterday was him, you know,

1011
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: calling at the Milwaukee Open and calling it like an

1012
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: easy setup. But those were like the headliners. But what

1013
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: got buried was like the other quotes, like the specialness

1014
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: of my round is not altered by this. I did

1015
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: this in the final round the US Open at Oakmont.

1016
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 3: The specialness he said, the specialness of my round is

1017
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: completely not impacted.

1018
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: This does not hold up to it, So how could

1019
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: you disagree?

1020
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: I texted ZB last night and I was like, what,

1021
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: uh what is it? Andy? His caddy who caddied for Johnny?

1022
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 2: What what does Andy think about this? And he texts

1023
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: it back. He goes, Oh, Andy says Johnny's was five

1024
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: shots better at least. Oh man, that's great, five shots

1025
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 2: better at least.

1026
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: So good.

1027
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: That guy, he's great.

1028
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: He would have been on there today, like DJ said,

1029
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: just roasting.

1030
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: You know. Jas's like I told you the specialness of

1031
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: my rout. He can't. You know, it's just different dynamic.

1032
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: It's one thing to do it on a Saturday, it's

1033
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: another to do it on Sunday.

1034
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: That's right. Hey, can I throw it at Andy real quick?

1035
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1036
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: Do you think it's overrated or underrated? Is it wise

1037
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: or crooked? With the misdirection of another Illinois grad actually

1038
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: wearing Badger red in Wisconsin?

1039
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: You know I heard that is his daughter place on

1040
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin golf team. All right, so all right, some

1041
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: some pod listeners inform me.

1042
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: But it's like you're flip flip flopping.

1043
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's still very dishonest.

1044
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just good marketing. I think he's just

1045
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: playing to play into the crowd. It's like it's like

1046
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: the guy with like a Lakers sticker on his bumper

1047
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: and a Yankee sticker on his bumper. Let's see at

1048
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: the John Der Classic what he wears. I've been to

1049
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: have a little blue and orange out there.

1050
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: You can't have it both ways, you can.

1051
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: It's a nuanced position. You're all about nuanced. You know,

1052
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: everything's not black and white. Just broadening his base.

1053
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 2: I think he knows he lives in Madison. He knows

1054
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: who utters his bread. You know, he knows, he knows that.

1055
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: You know, when he hits the Senior Tour, there's gonna

1056
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: be some it's gonna be some more local sponsorships. You know.

1057
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. He's got his Champions Tour event

1058
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: next week. They playing it, they play it in uh

1059
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: you rich in Champagne, or they play it.

1060
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 3: In Madison, MS. Just the Daughter is a good cover

1061
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: that makes sense.

1062
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Alone. I'm thinking everyone pilot on strigger.

1063
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: All the time.

1064
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: When when.

1065
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: Just let the guy be.

1066
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: Let me tell you when when, Uh, how about he's

1067
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: surge to beat Jordani Brugie. He almost lost Low, Wisconsin.

1068
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: It's true, he won Low Alna predicted.

1069
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he is an a Lini anymore.

1070
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, yeah, we'll ended on that depressing note.

1071
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, good week, Thanks for all the thanks

1072
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: for the takes. Andy, good stuff, Andy, brilliant stuff. This

1073
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: week on the course. I really really appreciate that.

1074
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I do what I can not. All

1075
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: heroes wear capes right.

1076
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: Shining light, shining light in the darkness. Ignorant takes well,

1077
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: you know I didn't.

1078
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 2: I did actually break my rule and talk about how

1079
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: far somebody hits it.

1080
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: That's true. So it was a note.

1081
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I'm a champ. Yeah. Then I misled

1082
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: poor Wrath and I played collar Sean Foley for text.

1083
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Yeah, he's a nuanced character.

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00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1085
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: Hey, overrated errated Sean Foley.

1086
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like he used to be overrated and

1087
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: now it's cooled so that he might be underrated.

1088
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: Now totally the rob thing. He got so rated that

1089
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: he became underrated I think.

1090
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm gonna go overrated just because Brandle

1091
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: and him teamed up to do like some segment together.

1092
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: Saw that and it made me cringe it what how

1093
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: how did Brandle do that?

1094
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: Wow, it's pretty weak principle.

1095
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: He gave in.

1096
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shocked when I saw that. It's a

1097
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: forthcoming show or something it sounds like. But they they

1098
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: used some footage this week. I was I was shocked

1099
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: when I saw that.

1100
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: That's good to see guys bury the hatchet. Yeah, there

1101
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: can be peace in this world.

1102
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there can. But do you think that was

1103
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: because of crookedness?

1104
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's for the next podcast.

1105
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, we'll leave it up in there. We'll let we'll

1106
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: let the listeners.

1107
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: That's good. But this podcast provides more questions than answers,

1108
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: which is exactly what you want. Yeah, any great art.

1109
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: All right, you guys have a have a great night

1110
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: and actually a really exciting week next week at the

1111
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: Travelers pump Field.

1112
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one, two, three.

1113
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: You know it might there might be rumors that the

1114
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: Travelers is the new US Open.

1115
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people are saying. Yeah, Phil,

1116
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: many people are saying that.

1117
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, phil Phyi'll believe that right is either travelable par

1118
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: four fifteen.

1119
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: You know they were there first. Yeah, that's the one question,

1120
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: and I know we're wrapping up. That's the one question.

1121
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Would Brooks have won? Is there an asterisk on this

1122
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: US Open without Phil? Or first major without Phil? Or

1123
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: Tiger since nineteen eighty four? You know, again, I don't

1124
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: have the answer. I think we're just you know, providing

1125
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: more questions and answers let the listeners aside, I.

1126
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Got a great story from the media more.

1127
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Like the more like the listener. I guess an hour

1128
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: and five minutes into the podcast, we.

1129
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: Said we were going to do this like in thirty minutes.

1130
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: So this is a phenomenal story from the media center.

1131
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: This week, I went to say hello to Jay Rigdon,

1132
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: who I'd never met before, and great guy. And right

1133
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: next to him is this guy I forgot his name,

1134
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: and he just pipes into our conversation and he goes,

1135
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, I talked to Bones today for about fifteen

1136
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 2: to twenty minutes. He says, Phil is going to try

1137
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: and come.

1138
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: And Sally wasn't even there this week.

1139
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: So I turned I and I, you know, this guy's

1140
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: never met me. I turned, I looked at him and

1141
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: I go, you know, you know what, I'm tired of

1142
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: talking about a guy that has zero chance to win

1143
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: this tournament. I turned it back to Jay.

1144
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: I kept talking, Wow, savage, Andy, Andy is better than

1145
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: anyone I know, completely just icing down someone looking for

1146
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 3: a conversation. It's on at the players first hand that

1147
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: he just completely puts a wall up and shoots it

1148
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 3: down right away. Amazing, amazing, pre eminent talent.

1149
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: You must be real. Yeah, you must be really fun

1150
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: in elevators.

1151
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: You know. I don't want people to get a wrong impression.

1152
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: I am very friendly, but you know, I had not.

1153
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about Phil. I'd already seen

1154
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: eight thousand stories written about the same thing with no updates,

1155
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: stories every day about the same exact thing, and I

1156
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: really didn't want to hear about it. Man, So we'll

1157
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 2: we'll now land on that note.

1158
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Speaker 3: Alright, alright, alright guys, thanks, have a good one, yeah,