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Speaker 1: Hello Australia, Hello New Zealand. We're coming to see you.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Are you psyched? I'm psyched, man. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to encounter all the deadly animals that are going to

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Speaker 1: What other weird tropes can we talk about? Well, we

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Speaker 1: could probably drink a few oil cans of Foster, the

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Speaker 1: national beer down there, maybe a slab. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to get beat up by everybody for saying all this

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Speaker 1: stupid stuff that we've said over the years. All right, everyone,

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Speaker 1: we're super excited. Years in the making, we are coming

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Speaker 1: to see you Saturday September one at the Astor Theater

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Speaker 1: Monday September three at Goldfields Theater in Melbourne. Thursday the

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Speaker 1: six at in Moore Theater in Sydney. And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap it up in fine style that the Bruce Mason

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Speaker 1: Theater in Aukland, New Zealand. It is going to be

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Speaker 1: a great time. Tickets are on sale now as of

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Speaker 1: April seven, and you can go to s Y s

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Speaker 1: See you soon. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know from

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Speaker 1: how Stuff Works dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Pryett, there's Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Guess what Jerry's doing. She's eating your lunch, which is

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Speaker 1: what she always does. So that makes this Stuff you

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Speaker 1: Should Know. Uh, just back from the road. Big grueling

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Speaker 1: to to city tour. It was kind of grueling because

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Speaker 1: I get really really nervous before d C shows in particular. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so thank you to Boston, Massachusetts, the Commonwealth making it

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Speaker 1: nice and easy and relaxing the Commonwealth in the district

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Speaker 1: we didn't go to We didn't go to a state. No,

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Speaker 1: we didn't, did we. Yeah, you know those porschemos in

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Speaker 1: um in DC can't even they don't even have representation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they can buy weed. Really, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: have shops, but I know that DC is one of

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Speaker 1: takes years after to roll that out. It's a big thing.

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Speaker 1: I read a really really interesting article. I think I

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Speaker 1: was in The New Yorker years back when, right after

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Speaker 1: recreational right. And I can't remember who it profiled or

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Speaker 1: this guy who basically was like, Okay, the voters voted

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Speaker 1: illegal weed and organized crime and all that stuff. But also, um,

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Speaker 1: many interesting air or balls juggling in the air that

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Speaker 1: it was a really great article. Check it out. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember what it was called. I'm pretty sure it

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Speaker 1: I just left. So we're talking today, not about weed

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Ferrari's one of the most beautiful cars,

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Speaker 1: it's funny dudes like you and I. Obviously there's one

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Speaker 1: And I want to take the reins of this company

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Speaker 1: referred to the South Central, but then everything else said

423
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: west Athens and I'm like, what is that? So I

424
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: looked and then we're Beverly Hills in Hollywood are and

425
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: that's it, right, pretty pretty much in Venice the water,

426
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: but it is it's like in the south part of

427
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: South Central, the southwest part of South Central. I think

428
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: that seems about right near. Yes, okay, alright, so we're oriented,

429
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: and uh, there's a staff reporter from the l A

430
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: Times named Priscilla Paynton who's going to figure in because

431
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: she kind of covered the story and it is in depth,

432
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: and well, this story is a little weird. We're going

433
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: to tell you the story, but the story is not

434
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: quite accurate, but we're gonna We're gonna go and tell

435
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: it as it was originally written, which is what people

436
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: thought it was for decades and decades. That's right. So

437
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: there were some kids digging around in the dirt in

438
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: their neighborhood, which is what kids are or to do.

439
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: This probably a little horseplay. I'm sure one kid was

440
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: probably self conscious. There was a lot of kids stuff

441
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: going on, lots of kids stuff, and they were digging

442
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: around and they felt something not too deep that felt

443
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: hard and said this. You know, I guess they probably

444
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: brushed the dirt away and said, this looks like like

445
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: maybe the roof of a car. That's a weird thing

446
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: to find at nineteen Street, but it's kind of a

447
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: weird thing to find anywhere buried underground, you know. Yeah,

448
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: So they got a cop involved pretty quickly, which was,

449
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, a great thing for these kids to do.

450
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done that. I would have gotten shovel

451
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: and seeing what was going on. Oh yeah, oh sure.

452
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: So okay, well these kids were a little a little

453
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: more do gooder than you, apparently, right, So they flagged

454
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: down a cop and then the next thing you know,

455
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: there's two detectives on the scene, Detective Joe Sabbaths and

456
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: Detective Dennis Carroll, who would become forever known around as

457
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: precinct as Lenny Carroll because Priscilla Painter Painting called him

458
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: that accidentally. She put down that was his name in

459
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: the story. Oh if only Joe had become Carl, yeah,

460
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Carl and Lenney, that would have been so wonderful. So

461
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Dennis Carroll and Joe Sabbath were working this thing when

462
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: Priscilla Painting comes out and she's watching this, this whole

463
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: thing goes going down and this is what she's seeing.

464
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: She sees all of a sudden, now there's a there's

465
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: an earth mover. There's a whole bunch of sheriff's deputies

466
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: with shovels, also earth movers, but different kinds, you know.

467
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: And they're digging around this car and they're they're getting

468
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: more and more dirt off of it. And um, Sabbath

469
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: and Carol see that there's a car under there, but

470
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: it's covered in like rugs and plastic. And somebody tried

471
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: to kind of intomb the car, mummify it, I guess,

472
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: is how one of the guys from gelop Nick put it.

473
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: And what it was was a Dino to six gts

474
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: and this also had a serial number, oh seven eight

475
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: six too, and uh, they kind of duck through the car.

476
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: They eventually got it out. They dug through the trunk.

477
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: There was no one buried in it. No, no drugs.

478
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: Are big suitcases of cash or something you might expect

479
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: to find in a buried ferrari. Yeah, you like, who

480
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: would just bury a ferrari? This became an actual, like

481
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: huge question. Well, they ran the plates and found pretty

482
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: quickly that it had been stolen, that it was listed

483
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: as stolen, and so they started digging into it, right

484
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: literally they did. That was that's a good catch. So

485
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: um they found that back in vour this eight in

486
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: four the car had been hearted stolen by the original owner,

487
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: a man named Rosando Cruise. And Rosando Cruise and his

488
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: wife had gone to dinner at the Brown Derby on Wilshire,

489
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: um for their anniversary. Yeah. Well we should point out though,

490
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: as originally reported, they said that it was in surprisingly

491
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: good condition. Okay, this is Priscilla Paynton saying that in

492
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles time. Kind of an important uh key

493
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: little clue here, right Okay, So, um, at the brown

494
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: Derby Rosando Cruise and his wife for celebrating their um,

495
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: their anniversary. And he had just bought her recently a car,

496
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: I think for her birthday or something like that. Um,

497
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: and he was doing pretty well. Apparently he was a

498
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: plumber by trade. I would guess he owned his own company. Um.

499
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: But he had bought his wife a Ferrari that at

500
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: the time had cost about twenty two thousand dollars is

501
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: how much I had sent him back, which is well

502
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: over seventy thousand dollars in two thousand seventeen. Yeah, okay.

503
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: So he when they got there, he had noticed that

504
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: the valet was looking a little too anxious to get

505
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: the keys from him, and he's like, I'm not letting

506
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: these guys get Ferrest Bueller my car. His wife was like,

507
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: what does that mean. He's like, just give it a

508
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: decade or so and you'll see. So he decided to

509
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: just go parking himself on on Wilshire Boulevard much safer. Yeah,

510
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: good idea. And so when he came back, the car

511
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: was gone. That's right, the car was gone. Um. There

512
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: were no leads as to who took it. Uh, as

513
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: far as the detectives were concerned, and Farmer's Insurance group said,

514
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna pay. We're gonna pay this

515
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: thing off at a loss of that uh dollar dollar

516
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: dollar dollars to the legal owner, um, which at this

517
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: point was the was the Bank of America, very very

518
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: big point as well. Okay, so so basically the what

519
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: you just said, the shot of it is they said, okay,

520
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: we looked into it. The car was stolen. It's gone. Uh,

521
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 1: Farmer's Insurance, you need to pay the owner of the car,

522
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: which is the bank, and it's all just done. This

523
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: is four years prior, right, So when the car turns up, um,

524
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: like you said Priscilla Paynton, Well you want to take

525
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: a break. Nice cliffhanger. Okay. I took nice cliffhanger as

526
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: a yes. You meant yes, right, yes, okay, good, Well

527
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: we're back so um like you said, Priscilla Payton had said,

528
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: the car seemed in surprisingly good condition. She patented a

529
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: good picture, she did, but un incorrect picture, that's right.

530
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: So basically she set off this huge frenzy among Ferrari enthusiasts.

531
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: A Dino Dino had been discovered underground, had been written

532
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: off by an insurance company, and it was in surprisingly

533
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: good condition. That meant that they could probably get a

534
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: pretty good deal on it. And everybody wanted it. And

535
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: everybody started lighting up the switchboard at Farmers Insurance. Yeah,

536
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: and I get the idea that not only could they

537
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: get this Ferrari and and do whatever little restoration it needed,

538
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: but there's also just the story behind it made it

539
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: kind of a cool thing. Yeah, this was the car

540
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: buried in south central Los Angeles. Yeah, and I look

541
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: at it now. This made national news it also is

542
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: Sandra wests burial made national news and that had just

543
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: been several months before. Um, so the you know, the

544
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: two were compared. It was buried Ferrari fever in the US.

545
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: And how close that was very close? Interesting, I mean

546
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: different years. But she was buried in May, and this

547
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: happened I think in um like the following year or

548
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: like less than a year later. Okay, all right, So

549
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: the car actually was not in good shape at all,

550
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: to say the least, they were, And boy, I love this.

551
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: This is why it's a Ferrari. Twenty one layers of paint,

552
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: fourteen layers of primary, seven layers of paint. Um they were.

553
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: It was in bad shape. The paint was freckled. It

554
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: was had white spots all over it. Rust. Of course,

555
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: you can't bury a Ferrari and cover it with rugs

556
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: and expect it to you know, that'll take care of it.

557
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: So rust it eaten through it through the body. Um.

558
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: The leather interior was in bad shape. What did the

559
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: thieves do with some towels? So they were smart enough

560
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: to stuff towels into the intake to keep dirt and

561
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 1: worms and stuff from getting into the engine. But they

562
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: neglected to do that in the exhaust pipe. They had

563
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: put some towels in between the window cracks, I think

564
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: dangle the towels over the outside, but then didn't roll

565
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: the windows all the way up. So they weren't doing

566
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: a very good job. But in their defense, they had

567
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: to bury Ferrari in the middle of Los Angeles. How

568
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: did this How did this not get noticed? I don't know.

569
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: But the cops when they canvass the area, the neighbors

570
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: were like, we have no idea. The residents of the

571
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: house were renters and they'd only lived there for three months.

572
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: They had no idea. So they the cops just basically

573
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: were like, well, it's a stolen car that was already

574
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: written off. It's a it's a done case. We're not

575
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna break our backs trying to find out what happened here.

576
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious what happened here, So they sent it

577
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: off to Farmers. That's right in very bad shape. And

578
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: even pulling this thing out of the dirt, obviously the

579
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: engine compartment got crushed, uh, all scratched up and gouge.

580
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: The windshield was smashed, which Rick Sen a Bogan it's

581
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: in cod could have picked you right up, looks you're

582
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: right up in an afternoon. Actually probably not, because imagined

583
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: it for one shield like that is pretty hard to

584
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: come by. Um sorry, Rick, but uh, the idea that

585
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: someone could restore this thing was not true seemingly. Yeah,

586
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: and well, like Farmers was getting such um so many

587
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: calls and we're having to deal with the public on

588
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: such like a large scale that they decided to just

589
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: put it on display. So anybody who called in inquiring

590
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: about it, they said, well, here's the address. You can

591
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: actually go bid on it if you want it, and um,

592
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: people did, but they didn't really make too many serious bids.

593
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: They mostly just stripped the car as best they could.

594
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: Somebody took the dipstick. Even this Gelopnick article said, I

595
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: wonder if that was just let me get a piece

596
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: of this saying, or if it was like I can't

597
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: find a dipstick for mine, maybe both you know, or

598
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: eBay doesn't exist yet, but it will someday. I'm gonna

599
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: sell this thing for a million bucks. Yeah. So this

600
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: was a couple of weeks on display in Pasadena. Where

601
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: As this article says, everything that was not bolted down

602
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: was kind of nicked from it. I can't believe they

603
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: just didn't have security or something. Yeah, I don't. I

604
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: guess they weren't doing a very good time. I mean

605
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: it was a junk Ferrari so but still, I mean

606
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: they were taking bids on it. They didn't. It wasn't like,

607
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, come come take what you want and say, Oh,

608
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: it's not like a starving artist sale at a hotel

609
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: conference room or something, you know. Alright, So the long

610
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: and short of it is, in the end, they did

611
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: take some bids after it had been scrapped and gouged

612
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: by onlookers. Right, So here's here's where the legend kind

613
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: of picks up again. Right, You've got this car that

614
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: has like a legendary status already, but it's also totally

615
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: tragic if you are a Ferrari enthusiast. This is a sad,

616
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: sad story. Um. But it's purchased by somebody, some unknown

617
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: person actually, like a mechanic I think who owned his

618
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: own garage in Burbank, tried to start it and like

619
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: for for something. For some time, there were some dispatches

620
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: coming out of this restoration project because the public apparently

621
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: knew that this guy had actually gotten it to start,

622
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: but then the engine just collapsed and it didn't look

623
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: very good. Right, Yeah, what do you pay? But like

624
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: between five and nine grand. Yeah, it's pretty good deal,

625
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: but it was in pretty bad shape. Right. So after that,

626
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: the Ferrari just kind of disappears for a little while.

627
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: And then somehow the Ferrari enthusiasts public could confirm that

628
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: the thing had been resurrected, it had been licensed, it

629
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: had been restored to its former beauty. They had a

630
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: new plate called dug Up, right, But then it just

631
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: is gone. It's not listed on any of the Ferrari

632
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: registries or the Dino registries or anything like that. It's

633
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: just they know it's out there, but they don't know

634
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: where it is. It just becomes like this phantom, which

635
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: makes it even cooler. And that's where the story ended. Originally,

636
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: there were there were a couple of Gelopnick articles and

637
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: it's a good website, It really is a great website.

638
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: And there was one Gelopnic writer in particular who was like,

639
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: that was a pretty good article, but I want to

640
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: know more about. His name was Mike Spinelli, and he

641
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: did a follow up he dig he dug in even

642
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: further to this legend. He wanted to find that Ferrari,

643
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: and he actually ultimately was successful. But what he turned up, Chuck,

644
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: was an even bigger twist to this story than digging

645
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: up a Ferrari in the middle of south central Los Angeles.

646
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: That's right. He ultimately found Dennis Carroll, that one of

647
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: the original lead detectives Lenny and Carl he was, and

648
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: he learned the true story, which was kids did not

649
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: find this thing playing in the dirt. That didn't happen

650
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: at all. It was actually discovered because of a tip

651
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: from a c I right, and if you've seen the wire,

652
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: you know what that stands for. It's a confidential informant.

653
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: He was a heroin addict and I want to say

654
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: he assume was guy for some reason. Yeah, it could

655
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: go either way. Yeah, I just hear a confidential informant

656
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: heroin addicted. I think, dude, not fair, ladies, I'm sorry, right, Yeah,

657
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: she'll leave us out of that circle. Uh. So he

658
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: and his partner had made Uh Lenny had had made

659
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: up that story about the kids finding it. I guess

660
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: because it was a police matter. It was a confidential informant,

661
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: so they had to cook up this fake story. They

662
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if they had to, but they they

663
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: wanted to sniff painting off the case. Um so so

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00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: they Yeah, they just protected their source and said it

665
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: was kids playing, and that became how this car was

666
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: found for decades, that was the story. Any anyone you

667
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: heard that story from, unless you were probably the wife

668
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: of Joe Sabas or the wife of Dennis Carroll, they

669
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: would say they would start with some kids were playing

670
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: in a yard and found this car. Totally made up, right,

671
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: So that's twist number one that they found. Twist number

672
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: two is actually the fact that this was all a

673
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: set up job to begin with by the own Did

674
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: we say he was a plumber, Yeah, the plumber. Uh basically,

675
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean what could he not afford it? So he

676
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: decided to have it professionally stolen to get an insurance claim.

677
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: That's my impression, that's what he did. We don't know

678
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: the reason behind it, I think for my interpretation, and

679
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: it's up for interpretation because he was never charged with

680
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: this crime. Oh really Yeah, it was written off as

681
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: a loss right which we all pay for it. Let's

682
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: be honest, right, Um, the the this is my this

683
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: is the Josh Clark interpretation of this crime. Rosando Cruz

684
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: very much loved his life his wife, so he bought

685
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: her a Ferrari that he couldn't afford. But did I

686
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: say he very much loved his wife, he didn't want

687
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: to tell her that he needed the ferrari back. He

688
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: arranged for it to be stolen and maybe make some

689
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: money on the side as well, and then he would

690
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: pretend to be mad that the ferrari was stolen, and

691
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: all of his problems would be solved, right, which is

692
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: why he cooked up the story about being wary of

693
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: the valet parkers. So this is why I need to

694
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: park it on Wilshire and that's where it was arranged,

695
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: pre arranged to be taken. And he he kind of

696
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: thought like, oh, you're gonna like strip it for parks

697
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: and then drive it into a ravine, Yes, which makes

698
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: sense in a weird way. Right, then you could fence

699
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: the parts so you get some extra money, and then

700
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: he would pay them out of the insurance claim. That's

701
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: not how it went down. He didn't say bury this

702
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: thing in south central l A right without stripping it

703
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: of basically any parts. I think they took the the

704
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Ferrari logo off of the back of the car. But

705
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: everything else was points to the idea that the thieves

706
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: were gonna did Mike D's first necklace, but they they

707
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: every all of the way that the car was buried

708
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: points to the idea that the thieves were gonna come

709
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: back for it some day. There was an attempt to

710
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: preserve it. Let me throw some rugs on this, and

711
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: not only are we getting paid for steal on the Ferrari,

712
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: but we're going to dig it up and drive it

713
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: out of the whole one. Yeah yeah, wow, because it's

714
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: got all wheel drive probably that's pretty amazing. So um,

715
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: from what I understand, Rosander Cruiz was never charged with

716
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: this crime, even though the cops knew. Good for him,

717
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: I guess, um. But and that was just my interpretation.

718
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cast any shade on him, but

719
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: just from my research. If that's not the case, my apologies,

720
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: But that that is what it looks like to me.

721
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He didn't get the check. The Bank

722
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: of America got this well. Yeah, so if that was

723
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: the point, he didn't think it through very well well,

724
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: but he was out from under those payments at least, right.

725
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: That's why I think he did it. He didn't have

726
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: to pay that like seven hundred dollars a month. I

727
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: can't imagine, though, I mean, like I think about it.

728
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: Just think about buying an eighty thousand dollar car. It's

729
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: a lot of dough dough, it's a lot chuck. But

730
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: now that car would be worth about three hundred thousand dollars.

731
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: Well it's still around though, right, yes it is. Sorry,

732
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: there's still more to the story. Yeah, guy named Brad

733
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: Howard actually owns this car that was buried and trashed underground,

734
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: which is a pretty amazing into this story is that

735
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: this thing is actually restored to its former glory and

736
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: still owned by a guy. Yeah, and the guy Mike

737
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Spinelli makes this point that, um, when the Ferrari was found,

738
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: it was in pretty bad shape, despite what Priscilla Paynton

739
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: said in the article, But it could have been in way, way,

740
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: way worse shape. And the reason why it wasn't in

741
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: in worse shape than it was was because those years

742
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: seventy between ninety six seven and most of night there

743
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: was a huge drought in southern California, the same drought

744
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: that actually created skateboarding. Because nobody could fill up their pools.

745
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: So skaters started skating the Z Town Dogtown z boys.

746
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: There you go. They they started skape warding because of

747
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: this drought. That same drought preserved this car a little

748
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: bit underground, more than it would have been had it

749
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: rained a lot. Right, And that's the end of that chapter,

750
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: Paul Harvey style. So you got anything else? No? I mean,

751
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if this has happened again, maybe we'll do

752
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: a whole suite on buried cars. I would love to

753
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, if somebody, if you know that there's

754
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: especially if somebody buried another Ferrari, let us know. We'll

755
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: add it and make it a hat trick. Please. Uh.

756
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: In the meantime, you can go look up buried Ferrari's

757
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: all over the internet and on gelot Nick in particular,

758
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: who did a great job of digging this story up.

759
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: That was unintentional. Uh. And since I said it was unintentional,

760
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,760
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