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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, March the

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Speaker 4: I'll make them pay. Guys, I woke up this morning

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Speaker 4: very casually, was gonna do the show from home in

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Speaker 4: a sudden realized, Shannon, they changed all the ways to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the little ports that you have to changed.

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Speaker 4: All the ports and I couldn't get on so I

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Speaker 5: You should have seen me.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I was at a road course on

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Speaker 4: about two minutes before, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, you made it welcome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm proud of you for being all traffic laws.

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Speaker 5: I did not. There were not laws.

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Speaker 4: We're forsaken, but we got here and ready to go.

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Speaker 4: And this is a this is another like insanely huge

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Speaker 4: day of news, Mere Drew.

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Speaker 5: I I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of a day in a long time

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Speaker 4: where so many different things happened last night that there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be really kind of big stories that I don't

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Speaker 4: even know if we get to today.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and if you combine them with excuse me, okay

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Speaker 7: and talk, I have something of my throat all right,

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Speaker 7: I'm back. Sorry, no, I when you combine it with yesterday,

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Speaker 7: what are crazy forty eight hours of news? It's just

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Speaker 7: been one thing after another here lately, and we have

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Speaker 7: a full slate today, we do, so that's a clare

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Speaker 4: So let's uh, let's get started and figure out. I'm

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out which way to go. I think,

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Speaker 4: probably for the future of UK athletics. The most important

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Speaker 4: thing today is a story that came out, at least

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Speaker 4: in a surprise to me this morning from The Athletic,

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Speaker 4: which is basically The New York Times about the UK

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Speaker 4: Athletics department. And I can't tell if this is a story.

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Speaker 4: So the The Athletic is a paid site, but I

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Speaker 4: can't tell if this.

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Speaker 5: Article is free or not. Did any of the three

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Speaker 5: of you look at it yet to see?

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Speaker 4: Because I subscribe so I can get it, but I

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Speaker 4: don't know if the general public can get it.

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Speaker 6: Do you don't think I don't think we can get

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you can't get it all right, So I

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Speaker 4: guess if that's the case, I don't really want to

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Speaker 4: start a show talking about business shin and that seems boring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, but I do think this article is

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Speaker 4: very important, so I'm going to compromise and talk about

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Speaker 4: about sports first. But I would say if in those

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Speaker 4: questions about JMI and all those things that people have

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Speaker 4: with probably the most important thing, which is that Kentucky's

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Speaker 4: one of their assistant coaches, Jason Hart, is leaving for SMU.

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Speaker 4: He was kind of the head recruiter, I would say

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Speaker 5: It's kind of the same job.

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Speaker 4: Drew, what do you make of the decision of Pope

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Speaker 7: Well, he's returning to a guy who worked with Edinburgh

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Speaker 7: he was the deep paint connection all anyone wanting deep paint.

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Speaker 7: Pate was the big one. He had coached him before

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Speaker 7: any any interview of Pate. It's heart heart heart heart, heart, heart, heart, heart,

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Speaker 7: then yeah, recently, any of the trips that have been

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Speaker 7: you could also say, well, he didn't bring anything to

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Speaker 4: don't know the answer to that, and I haven't I

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Speaker 4: I will say, Ryan, I was very excited when Jason

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Speaker 4: emphasis was on like high school recruiting, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I think the two guys from Kentucky weren't even guys

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Speaker 4: so I don't know that it's a huge loss because

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Speaker 4: Is it because of Pope? Is it because I don't that,

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Speaker 6: You know, And it could be something as simple as

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Speaker 6: he's a West Coast guy. He wants to go back

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Speaker 5: It's not West Coast. He's going to.

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Speaker 6: West west part of the state. Get closer to home.

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Speaker 5: It's not even the west part of the state.

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Speaker 6: I should have said to start with, maybe just wants

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Speaker 5: Closer to Does he have a map?

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Speaker 3: He's been to Texas before, you've been to Tech.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like in the middle.

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Speaker 3: Right, we were next to Vegas when we were.

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Speaker 5: I mean to get it. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: he's not that much closer Dallas to Los Angeles. Not really,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're not. We've done this drive.

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Speaker 3: But I think what else where it hurts.

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Speaker 6: As far as in game coaching, him and Mark Fox

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Speaker 6: you know, if you watch the bench, it was Pope

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Speaker 6: So I think I think this is a blow you

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Speaker 6: meant you guys talked to touch on the recruiting, but

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Speaker 6: I think on the coaching also, this is a blow.

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Speaker 5: The beat Shandon, the Dallas beat, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's big on the sand that sort

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, it's there. It's not there, but it's in

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Speaker 5: It's Texas.

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Speaker 4: It's around Texas, So I mean, yeah, it's the West coast. Drew,

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Speaker 4: you were going to say you think it's do you

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Speaker 4: are you saddened by the loss, regardless of hout it happened.

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Speaker 7: I'm really indifferent because my bigger concern is whatever you

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Speaker 7: think of Jason Hart. I don't love the idea of

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Speaker 7: a new assistant coming in on maybe not even here

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Speaker 7: yet in late March. Well, we need a roster asap. Well,

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Speaker 7: and there's people who believe this won't be the only one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you mentioned Mark Fox. There are those.

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Speaker 4: I again, I have no ideal what part of the

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Speaker 4: there are people on the internet who don't think.

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Speaker 5: Mark will be here after this year.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I will say, if they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: staff changes, I do hope, Brian. They they happened quick

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to move fast right now. There's no

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Speaker 6: delay whatsoever because when that portal opens there, players are

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Speaker 6: going to find a home very quickly. We saw it

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, But then then Kentucky officially added the Keegan Brown

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Speaker 4: guy as the associate director of Player Development. They're very

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Speaker 4: clear that this is not a GM, but we still

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Speaker 4: don't know whether or not he's going to hire a

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know much about this guy, Drew. He was

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Speaker 4: at though with the What Wisconsin heard is that right?

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Speaker 7: Yes, video guy for.

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Speaker 4: This is a video guy for the Wisconsin heard, which

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Speaker 4: is a G league Channon, you heard right?

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Speaker 5: Heard that?

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Speaker 4: Uh? And so I don't really know anything about him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think when we get into this, these

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we're always gonna have heard of

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Speaker 4: these people to be honest. So I really don't know

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Speaker 4: if this is good or bad, but we have a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he left Wisconsin to get closer to Utah. Down

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Speaker 7: here in Licenson. I will say when when Pope first

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Speaker 7: got hired, you know, we're all trying to guess who

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Speaker 7: the assistants were, and I went and I nerded out

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Speaker 7: on a story about Keegan Brown. I'll admit I was like,

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Speaker 7: we got to get this guy because he did seem

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Speaker 5: What did you like about him?

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Speaker 7: He seemed to be a big part of the offense

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Speaker 7: Pope was running. Everyone watched that video game offense YouTube

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Speaker 2: Uh the amputy was driving, was driving, was driving okay,

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Speaker 5: Where is that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna have to read that story. I don't

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Speaker 7: There's videos of the guy like firing guns not associated

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Speaker 7: I just got to see the video. I don't know

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Speaker 5: Don't turn riding to Mike Off.

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't you, No, that was not the joke.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll let you watch it all right?

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Speaker 5: I just I couldn't believe these people existed, and it

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Speaker 4: These two best friends argued over a plot of land

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen it, but I had a lot of

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Speaker 5: And I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 7: I have not gotten to six yet, but my friends

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Speaker 3: In ten years, we'll see what you really think about me.

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Speaker 9: of We're going to get all these G League players

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Speaker 9: and that hasn't happened. And you know, even you know,

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Speaker 9: Alvin Brooks on on the staff came in from from Baylor.

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Speaker 9: It's like he's a he's a top notch recruiter and

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Speaker 9: we have zero recruits for next year. So you know,

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Speaker 9: I can't really over these coaches leaving.

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Speaker 4: I sort of agree with you, Adam, to be honest

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Speaker 4: with you, I saw someone say online you can't both

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Speaker 4: say Pope needs to make changes and fix things and

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Speaker 4: then get mad when changes are made, right, And I

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Speaker 4: think that's a really fair point. I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: do not think what happened last year is acceptable and

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Speaker 4: it needs to get better, then changing things would presumably

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Speaker 4: be the way to.

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Speaker 9: Do it, exactly. If you know, obviously a head coaching

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Speaker 9: change isn't going to happen this offseason, but this is

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Speaker 9: this is the way to go. You've got to do

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Speaker 9: something to try to make it better, and you know

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Speaker 9: this is this is how you take care of that. Yeah, knew,

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Speaker 9: assistant coaches.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate the call. So I agree with you. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how you can do both. Hubert Davis is out, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but surprising. I mean, this is a pretty monumental thing

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Speaker 4: in college basketball, Hubert Davis being gone. Matt Norlander said

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Speaker 4: this yesterday, and he's right. This is the first time

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Speaker 4: in any of our lifetimes, in any of our lifetimes,

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Speaker 4: that the North Carolina job is open. The North Carolina

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Speaker 4: Joe job has not been opened since Dean Smith was

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Speaker 4: the coach. They've always just picked the guy, They've always

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Speaker 4: promoted from within, and they say they are now going

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Speaker 4: outside the family for the first time ever.

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Speaker 5: Ever, So.

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Speaker 4: However you think of brands in college basketball. North Carolina

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Speaker 4: is certainly one of the three or four biggest and

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Speaker 4: that job is open, and I think that job has

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Speaker 4: as much potential as any job. And the Kansas job

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Speaker 4: might be open. Yeah, it's not official, it's not official.

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Speaker 4: There's been no official announcement, but you could end up

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Speaker 4: with a case where the North Carolina and Kansas job

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Speaker 4: is open. And Matt Norlander said last night he thought

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Speaker 4: that there were some top coaches that would leave for

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Speaker 4: those jobs. So what happens Drew ste May goes to

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Speaker 4: Kansas or Todd Golden goes to North Carolina or something

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Speaker 4: like that happens. How are things going to feel in Lexington?

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Speaker 5: Not great.

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Speaker 7: Billy Donovan's name is also being thrown around a lot

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Speaker 7: that he might want to return to college for that

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Speaker 7: job that would really work after just two years ago.

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Speaker 4: We wouldn't wait for talk to him. If we couldn't,

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Speaker 4: I mean, we couldn't wait. We had three different times

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Speaker 4: to hire Billy Donovan. And if he comes none of

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Speaker 4: those three and then goes to Carolina.

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Speaker 7: I mean, what if we just look up and you know,

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Speaker 7: Todd Golden's at USC natoates and I'm just guessing natoates

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Speaker 7: is at U n C or natoates is at Kansas,

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Speaker 7: Golden's at UNS whatever. They just all upgrade and get

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Speaker 7: the best coaches, and that will also come with a

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Speaker 7: trickle effect across the board with recruiting and then other

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Speaker 7: coaches raising their contracts and buy outs at other schools.

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Speaker 4: They'd both be out of the SEC though some try

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Speaker 4: to find some positive out of it. But those jobs,

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Speaker 4: those are two of the best four jobs in the country. Yep,

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Speaker 4: we'll be right back.

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Speaker 5: TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

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Speaker 7: He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 2: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio present it by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio Kentucky. Kentucky beat Murray State

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Speaker 4: and baseball. That's a World College World Series baseball team

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Speaker 4: we beat yesterday, Drew right they went to college.

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Speaker 5: Was it last year?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, last year Murray State.

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Speaker 7: Also, we've been struggling against teams in the States.

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Speaker 5: This year's yea more Head State beat us.

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Speaker 7: It's good to get a big win.

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Speaker 5: One ten uh.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you can apparently this JMI article or this

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Speaker 4: article about UK's athletics can be shared as a gift article.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what that means, Shannon, and give it

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Speaker 5: as a gift.

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Speaker 4: But you can give it as a gift. So someone

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Speaker 4: sent it to me as a gift and they say

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Speaker 4: that I can share this as a gift. So Drew,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give this for you to share it

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Speaker 4: as a gift. It's the gift okay.

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Speaker 7: You can also join KSR plus and it comes from

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Speaker 7: an athletic subscription shout out?

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Speaker 5: Is that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Off, right?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 3: Are you not a member a KSR plus?

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Speaker 4: I am, but I pay for the athletic I guess

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Speaker 4: I didn't have to do that. It comes free if

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Speaker 4: you're on KOs board on there.

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Speaker 5: You just saved me money, Drew very much, and we

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Speaker 5: have a sale.

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Speaker 4: Go go there now, so I will tweet out the

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Speaker 4: gift article or you can either way. If you want

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Speaker 4: to read this, there's a way to get it. It's

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Speaker 4: by a guy named Justin Williams. Here here it's very long.

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Speaker 4: Here are the basics. UK for the first time talked

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Speaker 4: about how this whole new athletics department's going to run.

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Speaker 4: Justin Williams says that Kentucky has become the first athletic

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Speaker 4: department to completely transition their athletic department to a nonprofit

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Speaker 4: entity LLC. No other college university has changed athletic department

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Speaker 4: to an LLC except Kentucky.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: In the article, they quote a number of people who

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Speaker 4: say this is revolutionary in a positive way, and then

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Speaker 4: they quote a couple of people who say they're a

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Speaker 4: little skeptical, but nevertheless they Kentucky is the first university

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Speaker 4: to ever do this. I remember when they announced it

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Speaker 4: a few months ago, or what was it like, eight

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Speaker 4: months ago? Ryan, However, long ago that was he They said,

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Speaker 4: soon every university will do this. Yes, as of right now,

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Speaker 4: only Kentucky has, but that doesn't mean there won't be

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Speaker 4: others that will do it as well. In the article

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Speaker 4: this I'm going to reach you this paragraph, it's understandable

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Speaker 4: to assume that with the amount of money the Wildcats

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Speaker 4: are paying, they could be in financial distress, an overly

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Speaker 4: leveraged asset that would have financial expert Dave Ramsey folding

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Speaker 4: his arms in disgust.

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Speaker 5: Dave Ramsey shit Rice.

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Speaker 4: And the reality, however, is quite the opposite. Kentucky Athletics

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Speaker 4: has access to plenty of money, potentially swimming in it.

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Speaker 4: Scrooge McDuck style. In an industry where a lot of schools,

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Speaker 4: even at the power conference level, are scrubbing their budgets

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Speaker 4: and pleading for Congress to step in, Kentucky is embracing

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Speaker 4: an adapter die mentality. They want to be up there

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Speaker 4: with schools like Texas and Ohio State, which have budgets

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Speaker 4: over three hundred million dollars. Eric Monday, university administrator and

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Speaker 4: likely future president of university, that's my thing. We are

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Speaker 4: running to what is next in college athletics. We're going

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Speaker 4: to provide opportunities for our fans at a level beyond

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Speaker 4: what we've traditionally done. We're going to have an athletics

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Speaker 4: department beyond two hundred million a year to two hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty five million a year to two hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty million a year. Ah, so we can do more

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Speaker 4: at UK. So that's the that's the biggest part of it. Basically,

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Speaker 4: they're saying we're going to essentially an LLC model and

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Speaker 4: we're about to row and money. Now that's hard for

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Speaker 4: me to here, we're rolling in money. Scrooge McDuck style

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Speaker 4: drew after Eli Kappaludo came on Saturday and said get

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Speaker 4: ready for cuts. I don't that messaging seems different to me.

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Speaker 4: But if you read this article, it goes into detail

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Speaker 4: how it will work. It goes into detail as to

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Speaker 4: how they believe it will succeed, and it seems like

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Speaker 4: to me reading it, a lot of it is they

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Speaker 4: think they're going to be able to grow lots of

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Speaker 4: revenue all things that are not just athletics, specifically the restaurants,

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Speaker 4: entertainment districts, hotels, all the things they've talked about building.

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Speaker 4: They say those businesses and shops, those businesses will benefit

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Speaker 4: from game day traffic, but also have year round money

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Speaker 4: for athletics, as they are essentially businesses that will have

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Speaker 4: UK Athletics as their profit center.

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Speaker 5: What do we make of all that?

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Speaker 7: Well, since they're pretty much Kentucky's collective these days, I'm

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Speaker 7: rooting for them. I'm still a little skeptical with how

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Speaker 7: that will work. As you said, it hadn't been a

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Speaker 7: week since Eli told us there's gonna be cuts and

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Speaker 7: all of that. On the football end, I've always thought

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Speaker 7: we're good. I still wonder how this works with basketball,

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Speaker 7: and it might even not reflect well on the basketball

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Speaker 7: staff if it's true that they have a Scrooge McDuck's

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Speaker 7: amount of money and can't sign anybody. But I like

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Speaker 7: the optimism within the building, even though I still have

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Speaker 7: my guard up a little bit that this is gonna

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Speaker 7: work out. I mean, they're saying all the right things,

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Speaker 7: and this story obviously paints it all in a bright

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Speaker 7: light for Kentucky and leading the way in nil So

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Speaker 7: I'm hoping it works out, but I've still you know,

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Speaker 7: there are people that have had to work with them

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Speaker 7: have said the opposite, and people in the building, so

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Speaker 7: I'm still conflicted on how that how it will actually

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Speaker 7: play out.

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Speaker 4: So I when I read it this morning, i'd be

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Speaker 4: I think it sounds great. Okay, it sounds great. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna run UK Athletics like a business. I've been saying

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Speaker 4: that for a long time. I'm I think, without saying it,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of a hey, by the way, the way

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Speaker 4: we did things under Mitch, we're not doing them anymore.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a subtext to this in the way

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Speaker 4: they say that. Although Mitch is quoted in this a

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Speaker 4: couple of times supporting it, I think it looks good

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Speaker 4: if you read it. I also agree with Drew that

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Speaker 4: I actually think what they're doing is working for football.

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Speaker 4: Basketball is a different question. There's a couple of things

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Speaker 4: that I think though to watch. One the Scrooge McDuck language,

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Speaker 4: I wonder if that's going to be Shannon like Ferrari

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Speaker 4: was with basketball this year.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we're gonna hear that a lot?

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Speaker 4: I think if we And now granted this was the

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Speaker 4: writer that said that it wasn't UK, but like, if

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Speaker 4: we don't get recruits, are people going to go?

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Speaker 5: I thought we had Scrooge McDuck money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Dave Ramsey reference and a Scrooge McDuck right.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is and UK cites this. And this

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Speaker 4: is where I'm gonna need help from the listeners. I'm

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Speaker 4: going I'm going to do something that people say I

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Speaker 4: never do, but I'm going to do here. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to admit I don't know what I'm about to talk

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Speaker 4: about at all, and I want over the next twenty

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Speaker 4: four hours there are many listeners right now who will

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Speaker 4: have experienced what I'm about to say, and I would like,

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Speaker 4: on the text machine or on Twitter or whatever, write

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Speaker 4: me and tell me, because I really want to hear

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Speaker 4: from you on this. In the article, they basically say

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Speaker 4: we're going to do to UK athletics what we did

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Speaker 4: to UK healthcare. They say in this article that this

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Speaker 4: model they're doing for UK athletics they did for UK

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Speaker 4: healthcare and it had a ton of success. I will

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Speaker 4: be honest with you, I have no idea if that's

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Speaker 4: true or not, because I don't know anything about healthcare.

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Speaker 4: So what I would like is, I think there's probably

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Speaker 4: a ton of you out there that have experiences or

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Speaker 4: dealings with UK healthcare that you can tell me. Let's

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Speaker 4: assume UK athletics. Let's take what they say at face value.

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Speaker 4: They're going to do with you UK athletics what they

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Speaker 4: did with UK healthcare. If that's true, those of you

663
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: that have experience with it, tell me what that means,

664
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: because Ryan, I don't know. I don't know what that means.

665
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: But the university itself cites what UK has done with

666
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: UK healthcare as to what we are about to do

667
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: with athletics, and it's going to change and make UK

668
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: a Texas Ohio state like power. All right, So somebody

669
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: who knows what they've done with UK healthcare, Ryan, let

670
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: me know what that means. I have a question, Okay,

671
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: do you have it to any of you know what

672
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: happened with you? Okay, I don't true, do you?

673
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 8: Yeah?

674
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 7: I know there was a guy there a long time

675
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 7: and maybe paid him well to take another gig, similar

676
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 7: to what we're saying with UK athletics.

677
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 5: Well that that might be similar to is that true?

678
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 5: Is that actually what happened?

679
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 7: It's I don't know what's public, but yeah, I kind

680
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 7: of okay, Well leave that part to the side.

681
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

682
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: I know he's gonna say that. What were you what

683
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: was your question? Right?

684
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 6: So you know when they said they were going to

685
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 6: make athletics part of an LLC, like what you said

686
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 6: like eight months ago. I mean we all applaud I

687
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 6: thought it was a great idea, so why haven't others?

688
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: It still might be. I don't know if it's a

689
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: great idea or not. Their argument is it will be

690
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: a lot easier for us to do things like by

691
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: businesses as an LLC than if we were part of

692
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: the university. And they're right about that, that's true. Now

693
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: here's the problem with making anything of yours of business.

694
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: What can happen to businesses?

695
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 5: Shit, they can go under, they can fail, right.

696
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: So at least when you have government regulation, and there

697
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: are many, many negatives of government regulation, you have a

698
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: backbone of the government to hold you up, and sometimes

699
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: that leads you to make bad decisions. Sometimes it doesn't,

700
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: but you always have a stop gap that Okay, at

701
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 4: the end of the day, we have this pot of

702
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: money from our government that will keep us in order.

703
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: With a business, you can have infinite success, but you

704
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 5: also can go bankrupt.

705
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: And what's gonna happen is this private is this LLC

706
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: gonna then have to come to the government and go

707
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: bail us out?

708
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 5: That I don't know. So I'm sure that this could

709
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: be really good.

710
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 4: But Shannon, businesses can succeed and they can also fail,

711
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: and that they do put in this article what happens

712
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: if they go belly up?

713
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: And UK's answers basically like, we won't.

714
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: Love the confidence.

715
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean that's confidence, right, yeah, that confidence. Yeah,

716
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 5: So we'll see.

717
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: But what I'd really like to do is that this

718
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: is really a put out there of let me know

719
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: you all in the UK healthcare world. I want to

720
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: hear from you over the next few, like twenty four hours,

721
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: because it seems like whatever they did to UK Healthcare.

722
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: That's what we're doing to UK analytics. So we'll see

723
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: what that is.

724
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 7: There's the quote in there about Kentucky is not afraid

725
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 7: to swing and miss Let's swing and hit though, how

726
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 7: about we let's make let's make contact. I watched the

727
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 7: Reds a lot. I see a lot of swing and missus. Yeah,

728
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 7: we don't want that. I'm glad you're at the plate.

729
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 7: I'm glad you'red swing.

730
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: It starts tomorrow too.

731
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, we go, we got that summer, Velly's coming. We'll

732
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: take a break, we'll be right back. Take a couple

733
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: of calls chaos. You gotta give the You gotta give

734
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: Scrooge McDuck a lot of credit as a reference that

735
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: has had.

736
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 5: Lasted a long time.

737
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: It has, you know, because when's the last time you've

738
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: seen anything duck tails related. Scrooge McDuck was not even

739
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: a huge character, was he. No, And yet when you

740
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: say Scrooge McDuck.

741
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: Everybody knows. Everybody knows what vision of them jumping in

742
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: that pile of gold.

743
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: That's right. Yeah, so it really has worked for a

744
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 5: long time. Now.

745
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 4: I'm getting a ton of messages already from people in

746
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: the UK Health Care keep them up today. I want

747
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: to read them later tonight because I do want to understand,

748
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: uh kind of because you know the fact that UK

749
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: specifically made that comparison means that you know, they see

750
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: it as the same thing.

751
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 5: And Drew was correct.

752
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: They did essentially push out the leader of UK Healthcare

753
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: and gave him some money to put somebody else in.

754
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's coincidence or not. Now

755
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: you had a question, right, first of all, let me

756
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: so a couple of people criticizing me for saying Ryan

757
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: told inappropriate joke but not saying it to Shannon.

758
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 5: A couple of segments ago. There's a different Shannon.

759
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: It's called tact, It's called subtlety.

760
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, go back in podcast, listen to that joke as

761
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: told by Shannon subtle and Ryan.

762
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 5: Shannon Less.

763
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: So I don't know what you're talking about.

764
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. So that's the difference. Now, what was your question?

765
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 6: So, you know, like you said, they started this allc

766
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 6: eight months ago whatever, and we thought it was very

767
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 6: innovative idea kind of head of the curve. But why

768
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 6: eight months later has no other school done the same

769
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 6: thing and followed suit.

770
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: Don't know It says in the article that their other

771
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 4: schools have dipped their toe around it, like Clemson, Louisville

772
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: and Miami, but that no one's done it Butuck Kentucky.

773
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: Is that they think.

774
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 4: I think what they're saying is those schools have taken

775
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: parts of their athletic department and made them LLC's. But

776
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: we're the only one that's done our whole athletic department.

777
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: So and I you know, why haven't other people done it?

778
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: Maybe they will or maybe they want to see if

779
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: it works or fails with us first, right.

780
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 6: And you think eight months later somebody may have followed

781
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 6: suit and all the leader.

782
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, go ahead, Mike, Good morning guys.

783
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just looking at the next season. Oh

784
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 8: my gosh. But anyway, So Jaden Clayton's you know, would

785
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 8: know that situation. But Mo Diabate, Moreno and Chandler. I

786
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 8: think that's what those are the three players that we

787
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 8: we got to focus on. And I know a lot

788
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 8: of people say about Diabate but I won't say about

789
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 8: Diabade is that this guy.

790
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you wouldn't become in there williams.

791
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 8: Uh just because of his injury I don't know. I mean,

792
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 8: I mean, I know it's just ankle and stuff, but

793
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 8: I know I like, I like, I do like him,

794
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 8: you know, I do, yes, But with Mo, Mo was

795
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 8: he was a battler man. He got us rebounds, He

796
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 8: played some defense, he played some good defense. He knows

797
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 8: he's not a you know, he's not an offensive guy.

798
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 8: But man, when we needed some we needed some grits,

799
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 8: he got us some grit And that's the reason I

800
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 8: really like him, you know. And I just really think

801
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 8: we got to have a corps for next year that

802
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 8: we can build on, and we got I mean, this

803
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 8: is this is my My fear is that because of

804
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 8: the situation we're in, we're gonna make bad decisions.

805
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: I worry about that. That's a very that's a great

806
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: that's a very good point.

807
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate the call of the sixteen teams playing right

808
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: now in the Sweet sixteen, fourteen of them had have

809
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: at least three players in their top six that were returners.

810
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: So it is important to have that. Yes, Michigan, and

811
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: I want to say Texas are they and Texas was

812
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: an eleven seed. They're the only two teams I think

813
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 4: that are in the UH that don't have. At least

814
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: three of their top six guys were returners from last year.

815
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: Uh So, so Drew knowing that it is important that

816
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: some critical mass of these guys come back.

817
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 7: And I agree that that's important too. Now, if you

818
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 7: look at a lot of the guys that came back,

819
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 7: they were some of the team's best players a year ago.

820
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 7: It'd be nice if you know, Aberdeen Oway had a

821
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 7: little l jibillity left and they're the guys you're returning. True,

822
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 7: So sure, I want to keep College you. I want

823
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 7: to keep a lot of the guys, to be honest,

824
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 7: but under the circumstances that they take a big jump

825
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 7: forward and you get some stars to put next to them,

826
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 7: because I don't think anyone's going to make big enough

827
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 7: jump from the current team to be a star. So

828
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 7: I want to keep lots of bodies. I think that's

829
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 7: important in this era. But uh the ones Kentucky have

830
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 7: an option to return right now aren't quite as good

831
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 7: as what a lot of the other schools had to

832
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 7: bring back that are still in the conversation.

833
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: David, go ahead, David, hey man, I.

834
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 9: Know you haven't touched on this yet, but I got

835
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 9: to bog to pick with Michael Wilbond.

836
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm gonna do that next hour, David, can

837
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: we hold on till then?

838
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: Why don't you hold on?

839
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: Let me play Will Bond's clip and then Shandon, we'll

840
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: let David give a good response. Okay, fire you hang on, David,

841
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 4: because I want you to fire at Will Bond when

842
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: we do that next segment.

843
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Will. Go ahead, Will.

844
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey, thanks for taking my call again. Guys, A

845
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 10: long time no speak. I really did want to kind

846
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 10: of piggyback off the last person that was talking, just

847
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 10: kind of see who you guys really want coming back

848
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 10: on the team next year and why there's so much

849
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 10: hate for Jasper Johnson. He is such a good kid local,

850
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 10: He could develop into a great player. Stay with Malachomarino,

851
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 10: he struggled toward the end of the year. Just wanted

852
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 10: to get your guys' thoughts on that and try please

853
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 10: keep bb in in line. We have the best fans,

854
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 10: but also some of the worst and nastiest fans.

855
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we talked about the people coming back or

856
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: not yesterday. There's a video online. I don't want to

857
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: repeat it and go over it again, but you can

858
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 4: you can see what we thought about all those. Let

859
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: me hold off on Jasper in a second. I do

860
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: think Jasper's a really good kid. I want to talk

861
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: about that because his uncle made a comment yesterday, which

862
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: will go to a bigger conversation again, one I have

863
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: in the next hour. But I do think we need

864
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: a critical mass of these guys back. And there's nobody

865
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: on the team that like Drew. If they came back,

866
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: I'd be unhappy. But I do think we got to

867
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: go get some studs to go along with whoever comes back.

868
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 7: Pully agree, and I've seen people. I'm just gonna use

869
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 7: Brandon Garrison as an example. Some people don't want him back.

870
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 7: I could understand. But at the same time, it's not

871
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 7: like the portal is full of people that want to

872
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 7: be a backup center that are gonna be better than that.

873
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 7: I mean, we got to recognize Pope's not gonna go

874
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 7: out and just nail every position on the roster with

875
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 7: the best of the best. So some of these guys,

876
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 7: even if you don't think they're you know, gonna be

877
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 7: great or whatever, you still need guys on your bench

878
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 7: as long as they can accept that role.

879
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: And I mean I had nine dudes that played last year,

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Speaker 4: so two of them are gone. That's seven of those seven. Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with all seven of them back. I don't

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Speaker 4: think they're all gonna seven gonna come back, but I

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Speaker 4: think it's key what you do with the other three

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Speaker 4: or four spots.

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Speaker 5: Ryan, they better be really good.

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Speaker 11: You know, you gotta get some dudes because we are

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Speaker 11: losing our two best players. Yeah, I mean, we went

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Speaker 11: twenty two and fourteen and we're losing our two best players,

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Speaker 11: So we gotta go get some dudes.

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Speaker 6: Like Drew said, though Brandon Garrison into about that, they

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Speaker 6: both kind of fit in their role coming off the bench,

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Speaker 6: and I would really like to have them coming off

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Speaker 6: the bench again next year.

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Speaker 5: You can't end up with much worse. You with that

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Speaker 5: a question, But you also have to make sure they

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Speaker 5: want to come off the bench.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and who knows if they do, We're gonna come

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Speaker 4: back out two. We're gonna play will Bond here. David's

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Speaker 4: response talk about a couple of other things. Kiosk