1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wokay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: me your Girl, Danielle Moody, recording live once again from 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: our pod stream studios in Times Square. Folks, there are 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: a couple of stories that I really want to bring 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: your attention to because I am feeling this overwhelming sense 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: of doom, as I'm certain that many of you are feeling. 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: But there are a couple of things that I think 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: are worthy of note. We're going to have our in 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: depth conversation as we do every week with our friend 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: in house, doctor doctor Jonathan Metzel, to go through where 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: we are with the latest in COVID nineteen. One of 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the things that I brought up to him and which 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: we'll discuss in a bit is a Reddit thread that 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: came through a Utah I see you doctor in discussing 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: how COVID nineteen is affecting young people children essentially infants, toddlers, teens, 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: and all kids that fall in between, how they are 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: getting sicker, how they are dying, how they are ending 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: up with long COVID and other respiratory issues, cardiac issues 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: that they're going to be dealing with for the rest 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: of their lives. We are seeing numbers in pediatric hospitals 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: that are boiling over. And what does that mean? Well, 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: it means that they will not have the ability or 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: the capacity to deal with other injuries that come in 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: that children have that at one time could have seemed 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: like they were not life threatening, but because they will 26 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: not be able to get the immediate care that they need, 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: it will become life threatening. What does it mean to 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: live in a country that only cares about fetuses, but 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: once those children are breathing oxygen, living and walking, that 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: this country doesn't actually give a fuck? What does it 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: mean that we are living in a time when you 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: can ban access to abortion before a woman even knows 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: that they are pregnant right at six weeks, which, let 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: me just be very clear, is missing roughly two periods, right, 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: two menstrual cycles, and that you have in the same time, 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: these very same people who then are protesting in front 37 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: of hospitals and at school boards, threatening health professionals so 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: that your kids can't remain safe while they are at school. 39 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: How can you be at once protesting the right to 40 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: life and then denying actual living human beings that same 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: fucking right. I feel insane, And so if you feel 42 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: crazy to know that you are not alone. We're living 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: at a time right where you have Republicans that want 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: to say that democrats are taking away all of your rights, 45 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: taking away your right to pray, taking away your right 46 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: to infect as many fucking people as possible with a 47 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: killer virus because we are mandating that you wear a 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: goddamn mask. There are not a lot of things that 49 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: can save us right now except for common sense, which 50 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: I recognize is not actually common right because you have 51 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: a lawsuit that I talked about yesterday of a woman 52 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: that wanted to bring a lawsuit against the hospital where 53 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: her husband lay on a ventilator from COVID nineteen because 54 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: they won't give her husband horse medication. What in the 55 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: entire fuck when I say that I believe that there 56 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: was a tear in the universe, when I believe that 57 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: we are living in some alternate dimension or some mix 58 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: of purgatory hell and the apocalypse, this is what the 59 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: fuck I am talking about. Where you would rather sue 60 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: a hospital which is not a veterinary clinic, for not 61 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: prescribing horse medication, right, and then at that same time, 62 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: there are motherfuckers that are protesting outside that very same 63 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: hospital saying that they have a right not to wear 64 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: a mask. This is indeed hell, and I want people 65 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: to wake up, right. We want to believe that we 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: are better than we are. We want to believe that 67 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the population isn't pro death and that 68 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: they are literally protesting the right to die and take 69 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: as many people with you as possible. You know, Jonathan 70 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: brings up something funny at the end of our interview, 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: and when he says that, you know, in all of 72 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: these pandemic movies right that you watch, whether it's World 73 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: War Z or you know, just whatever apocalyptic style, walking Dead, 74 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: whatever type of show or movie, what is happening right 75 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: now would be that instead of the hero right in 76 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the movie, or the tribe or the group of people 77 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: trying to rehabilitate humanity after a killer virus or alien invasion, 78 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: that in this reality that we are living in, those 79 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: people would be pro zombie. They would be pro walking death. 80 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: They would be going out to try and turn themselves 81 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: into zombies at alarming rates because they believe that that 82 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: somehow is the future. It sounds stupid, right, it sounds 83 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: fucking crazy, And that is exactly what people in this 84 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: country are doing right now. What is alarming me is this, 85 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: This is the first week that children across the country, 86 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: all of them, right, you know, from elementary school all 87 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: the way up into higher education, are back to school. 88 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: What do we know to be true? Right? Even though 89 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: we know that things have fluctuated and changed, what do 90 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: we know for certain is that at any time that 91 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: there is large gatherings right of people that within the 92 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: four to six weeks post time, there are spikes in 93 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. So what can we understand to be true 94 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: about the middle of October? It is going to be 95 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: a shit show on top of a shittier show. Why 96 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: is that, Oh, because we're already experiencing COVID nineteen surges 97 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: in red states across this country. Right where you're hearing 98 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: that if Tennessee were to be its own country, it 99 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: would be the second worst country of COVID nineteen in 100 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: the world. Right. So here's the thing. You have Texas 101 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: mandating that no one can marit wear a mask. You 102 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: got Florida doing the same. You got every red state 103 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: deciding to be a copycat of who can be the worst? Right? 104 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Who can be the worst on top of the worst. 105 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: That's where we are. Well in four to six weeks, folks, 106 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: you were going to be overwhelmed with the amount of 107 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: stories of children dying, of children being on ventilators, of 108 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: them having long term illness. Right that, guess what Republicans 109 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: are going to ensure that. Guess what insurance companies won't 110 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: have to fucking cover because that's what they care about. 111 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. They care about corporations. 112 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: They care about making sure that shareholders and CEOs get 113 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: the most right while you get the least. They care 114 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: about control. They don't care about life. And so I 115 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: want us to reframe the conversation that we have around abortion, 116 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: because it isn't about the right to life. It isn't 117 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: about new life coming in because if you gave a 118 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: fuck right about life, then it wouldn't just be when 119 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: those cells are forming themselves in uterus. It would actually 120 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: be about life outside of the womb. It would be 121 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: making sure that our children are safe, right. It would 122 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: be making sure that they have an education, that they 123 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: have access to health care, that they have nutrition. In 124 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: every one of the things that I just mentioned. Republicans 125 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: have actively created campaigns and policies to work in opposition 126 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: to your children being well. It's why yesterday I walked 127 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: you through pieces of this cradle to grave legislation, that 128 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: this omnibus of a social safety net that Democrats are 129 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: trying to put together. But what they also need to 130 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: put together is their messaging that frames or Republicans as 131 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: who they are. They are people that don't care about Americans. 132 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: They are people who don't care about workers rights, women's rights, 133 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: lgbt Q rights, voter rights, are anyone having rights outside 134 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: of the corporations, to force you into some type of 135 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: new fengled, indentured servitude where you should just be grateful 136 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: that you have a job. Who cares if you're able 137 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom, Who cares if you're able 138 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: to have a lunch break, Who cares if your work 139 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: too exhaustion? Right, so long as you should be blessed 140 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: and feel thankful that you have this job, That's what 141 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Republicans want. That's the world that they want us to 142 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: live in, folks. Coming up next is my conversation with 143 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel, talking again raising the alarm 144 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: about where we are with this pandemic and what it 145 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: is that we need to be paying attention to peep, 146 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: so you know that I am always so happy. While 147 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if talking about COVID nineteen on a 148 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: regular basis every single week makes me happy, but I 149 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: am happy that our guide, doctor Jonathan Metzel, our in 150 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: house doctor here on woke F Daily, has always been 151 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: by our side over the last eighteen months, walking us 152 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: through where we are, where we're going. Jonathan, you now 153 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: right now are in Tennessee. You are back at your university, 154 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: teaching in person, and so I'm interested to hear how 155 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: things have been going for you there. But before we 156 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: jump into what's happening in Tennessee, I want to bring 157 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: you this read, Jonathan, that is posted in the Salt 158 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Lake Tribune by an ICU doctor that it works with children. 159 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: And this is what he wrote, and this was verified 160 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: by the Salt Lake Tribune to make sure that the 161 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: doctor was who he said. That he was operating under 162 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: anonymity because of course, in these United States, we now 163 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: threaten doctors, We now want to physically assault doctors if 164 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: for trying to keep us safe. And this is what 165 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: he wrote. Hey, there, friendly neighborhood ICU doctor reporting he's 166 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: talking about a death of a teenager that has happened. 167 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Kids are getting sicker this time around, and it is 168 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: happening more frequently. This includes newborns, toddlers, and teens. Has 169 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: not spared any of them. There are multiple cases on 170 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: the ventilator, which is not something that happened routinely in 171 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: children across the country. We are seeing children with respiratory illness, shock, terrible, myocdartis, 172 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: and strokes in the setting of COVID. Unfortunately, he continues 173 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: to write, we are also seeing SPY and other viruses, 174 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: including RSV spikes that are nearing levels of what associate 175 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: with a bad winter flu season. This is overwhelming pediatric units. 176 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: At some point this weekend, pediatric ICU patients were spending 177 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: time in the emergency department waiting for a bed, and 178 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: that is not a safe situation. He goes on to 179 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: say that pediatric units at capacity is insane. There are 180 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: patients that had delayed transferreds from outlying emergency rooms as 181 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: well as because they could not be accepted and transported 182 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: in a timely matter. He said, when this happens, negative 183 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: things occur. Jonathan, what is your reaction to this thread 184 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: by this doctor who was talking about his particular situation 185 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: in Utah, but using it as framing for what is 186 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: happening across the country in children's hospitals and pediatric units, well, 187 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: certainly there's so much happening in real time now. I mean, 188 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: this is happening now, and so part of the issue is, 189 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: as we know, there's a lot of disinformation out there, 190 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: the research apparatus is slow to catch up. But I 191 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: would say, just as somebody who's obviously studying and teaching 192 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: about about this issue, it makes sense to me to 193 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: hear that for a couple of reasons. I mean, number 194 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: one is that of course we know kids under twelve 195 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: are not vaccinated, so there they become de facto the 196 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: highest risk, and then the delta variant delivers a much 197 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: more potent, potentially debilitating load of virus. Right the viral 198 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: load is much much higher. And then kids are also 199 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: going back into schools, and so I think right now 200 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: is really the very important time to be tracking stories 201 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: like this because it just it just for me at least, 202 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: And again I want to be careful because I because 203 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what's going out online and 204 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: things like that. But I would just say it makes 205 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,239 Speaker 1: sense to me. I mean, kids are vulnerable because they're unvaccinated. 206 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: It's a very fraught time, and they're going back into 207 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: schools right now, and so I would just say that 208 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: this is a story we have to track very closely 209 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: and see what happens. The other the other important part 210 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: of what you just said is that it's not just 211 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: about kids getting sick right now. There are two other 212 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: major issues. Number one is that we know that even 213 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: mild cases can lead to long covid U. One of 214 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: the words in that piece was myocarditis, which I think 215 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: is very important, long term cardiovascular effects, long term lung effects. 216 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: And so even if kids aren't getting sick, they're still 217 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: at risk of a long term stabilitating illness. That that's 218 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: number one. And then two, of course is before the pandemic. 219 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: We use pediatric ICUs for everything else that kids get 220 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: sick of. Often thinks that they that they survive, but 221 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean kids have all kinds of other you know, 222 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: you just name to think of the spectrum of other 223 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: kinds of illnesses that get kids sick. And if there's 224 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: no space and those ICUs, things that are preventable illnesses 225 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden become much bigger risks. And so 226 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: this is a very front time and particularly as kids 227 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: go back to school. You know, one of the things 228 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: that this doctor had written too, he said this, simple 229 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: things like a minor headbleed after falling from a trampoline 230 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: or small spleen laceration after a car accident can turn 231 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: into catastrophes when patients are not being taken care of immediately. 232 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: So to your point, he was bringing up that same 233 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: issue that we are using this pediatric wards as now 234 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: these overflow COVID wards. But what happens to those kids 235 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: that are coming in with other issues that aren't immediately 236 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: being taken care of. What happens to them? Right, and 237 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: they're sitting on these beds in emergency rooms waiting to 238 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: be seen because we have so many children that have 239 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: pressing needs barreling down on them because they've contracted COVID. 240 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: And this is a bigger, untold story of the pandem. 241 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, m I studied gun violence, right, and gun 242 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: death went up last year? Um And why did gun death? Well, 243 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: there were more guns, there were more shootings, but also 244 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: in many parts of the country, who got shot in 245 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: the arm or the leg um that wasn't fatal two 246 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: or three years ago um. But but you're going to 247 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: bleed up because there's no there's no er, there's no ICU. 248 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: So um gunshots that that that weren't fatal on you know, 249 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: on their face um really became fatal because because there 250 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: were there were no beds. And so really this story 251 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: is not just about COVID deaths, which is what we're tracking. 252 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: It's also like, what's the other impact on our incredibly 253 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: burdened healthcare system? And so I just think it's a 254 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: very important time for people out there to think about prevention, 255 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: preventative medicine. I got my flu shot the other day, 256 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, because I could never get enough shots. But 257 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean just other things like that, because it's just 258 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: we we have in our minds and assumption of oh, 259 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: that's something medicine can fix for right now, medicine is 260 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, hanging by U dental flos in a way. 261 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: And so you know, so in a way, the other 262 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: issue of this pandemic is what's not getting treated in 263 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: a way that it used to. That is it for 264 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Today's Woke, a f daily podcast. 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