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Speaker 2: Welcome to Week six of the NFFL season.

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Speaker 3: This is the twenty minute podcast and my guest this

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Speaker 3: week for our three key segment is Ben Raven. Does

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Speaker 3: a great job covering the lines for m Live. But

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Speaker 3: there's also something else with Ben that people might not realize.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Ben is a large guy right as you can see here,

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Speaker 3: is very much into wrestling. And you do little something

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Speaker 3: something on your spare time too, don't you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I trained at the can Am do Jo and

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Speaker 4: Windsor and I do play by play like announcing for

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Speaker 4: Combat one Wrestling and IWTV, an independent wrestling app. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I still got the wrestling bug in me. Never been

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Speaker 4: able to shake it, just.

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Speaker 2: From the situar kid, Yeah, from a kid.

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Speaker 4: And then I realized I was massive and my basketball

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Speaker 4: career was done, so I was like, I kind of

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Speaker 4: want to hit some people still, so let's kind of

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Speaker 4: you I'll realized that I could do it, and it's

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Speaker 4: a it's a fun, wacky world, man.

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Speaker 3: I bet and it fits football wrestling, you know the

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Speaker 3: nature of it. Well, Ben, they're coming off the by

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Speaker 3: the Lions and obviously really healthy. We saw the first

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Speaker 3: day of practice on Tuesday and all fifty three guys

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Speaker 3: account for it. That's huge coming out of the buy

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Speaker 3: and that's what you want, right.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh yea, especially kind of going into that last

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Speaker 4: game losing Barns and you don't have Branch, I mean,

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Speaker 4: getting all guys back, Frank back on the field, that's huge,

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Speaker 4: and even gaining on Mahogany the window back, so plus

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Speaker 4: one even this week. That's exactly what you want out

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Speaker 4: of the bye week. Man.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's get ready into the three keys.

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Speaker 3: And one of them is a little unorthodoxed a little bit,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's to me, it's overcoming the unexpected. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I think we've gotten used to that as people

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Speaker 3: have covered the Lions, and obviously you guys a Lions fans,

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Speaker 3: you know, dating back to the picked up flag in

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, you know, to the you know the obviously

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Speaker 3: what happened with the identification last year, you know, eligible

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Speaker 3: receiver stuff and.

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Speaker 2: Just being able. It seems like there's always something in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: That happens, and I think a big one is being

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And it's the weird one about last year

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Speaker 4: is well, like you got the picked up flag and

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Speaker 4: all that, you can look at other things that led

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Speaker 4: to that. Last year, nothing led to that, right, they

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Speaker 2: So it's the one thing that I.

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Speaker 4: Always go back to with this team is as long

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Speaker 4: as Dan Campbell's here, they're gonna be all right.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things I think that that when

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Speaker 3: I think and it was fair that some criticized Dan

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Speaker 3: Kimbill's decision last year after that, Okay, that happened. Should

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Speaker 3: it have been a touchdown yes, Should we be winning

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Speaker 2: You know, should you adjust? Should you kick the extra point?

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Speaker 2: Do you still be aggressive and go for it?

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Speaker 3: You know, after that happened in the playoffs in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 3: You had the shang punt, you know, Oh, you thought

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Speaker 3: to me, it's you know, those things are going to happen,

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Speaker 4: going to stay true to himself and how he's built

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Speaker 4: this team. That aggressiveness is in his DNA, and I

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Speaker 4: captain for this ship. Something weird's gonna happen. It's national

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Speaker 4: But yeh, it's just handle it. Just handle it, trust

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Speaker 3: Well, another thing they've got to handle is that Cowboys

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Speaker 3: key is defending Ceedee Lamb and that Cowboys passing attack.

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Speaker 3: You look at this this passing offense for Dallas number two,

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Speaker 2: They do get Brian branch back, and.

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Speaker 3: I think that's huge, but they did give up three

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Speaker 2: They had a lot of success throwing the football.

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Speaker 3: It was probably their worst performance of the year in

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Speaker 3: That's a big key to this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Cowboys tried to run the ball

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Speaker 4: in that Monday night game against the Steelers. I don't

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Speaker 4: think if the Lions keep doing what they're doing against

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Speaker 4: he doesn't have ten catches, you're like, what happened? What

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Speaker 4: that guy's capable of. I mean the ninety eight, ninety

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Speaker 4: that's that's the key to the Cowboys success and that's

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Speaker 4: I think, in my opinion, I do not fear Dallas's

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Speaker 4: as long as you can keep that bottle and you

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Speaker 4: can keep doing what they're doing the bend, but don't break.

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Speaker 4: Limitfield goals, big plays, that big moments to get those takeaways.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's how that's how they limit that. But

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Speaker 4: CD's gonna get his. If they can contain everything else,

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Speaker 2: They'll be contain the big play. That's what it is

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Speaker 3: You know, if you see a line where it's ten

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Speaker 3: I think you've done your job. He's going to catch

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Speaker 3: the football. He's the focal point of their offense. But

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Speaker 3: it's limiting the big plays. You mentioned the big play

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Speaker 3: I think that's the big thing. When you talk about CD, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get his and they generate plays. They do

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Speaker 3: the quick wide receiver screens they get They even run

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Speaker 3: but just don't give the play. Is that why Brian

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Speaker 3: Branch and having him back is so key this week?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Big time Because the way Kirby's playing deep, the

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Speaker 4: the recipe to stop this attack. Kirby's playing great deep,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna need that. But Branch in the box making

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Speaker 4: They have a guy like Brian Branch there. Man, that's

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Speaker 4: a that's a pretty good kryptonite.

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Speaker 3: They're a different defense with Branch in there, just because

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Speaker 3: they can disguise things between him and Kirby, because.

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Speaker 2: Both are versatile.

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Speaker 3: You talk about Kirby and obviously the three interceptions, being

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Speaker 2: I mean, he can hit fearless.

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Speaker 3: He is, you know, and obviously with Brian, you know,

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Speaker 2: And so now when you can rotate and you as.

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Speaker 3: An offense, you're Dak Prescott, you come to the line

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Speaker 3: and you don't know who's going to be the deep,

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Speaker 3: is it too deep? Is it one which safety is

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Speaker 4: No, And I just think a Meek in the slot

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Speaker 4: it's what this defense didn't have last year. There's options

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Speaker 4: he really is, and he's big time in matchups like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this should be a fun matchup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Kirby together because because you know that

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the third key to me.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I asked Scotty Montgomery, you know this

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Speaker 3: Dallas is dealing with so many injuries up front along

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Speaker 2: Doesn't look like he's going to be available.

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Speaker 3: Durell Johnson's already on IR So I mean you're talking

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Speaker 3: about guys like, you know, Tyres Wheat, Chauncey Colston, Carl

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Speaker 3: But that's a hard thing for an offense. Is maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean because Eleven Parsons, I mean you have

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Speaker 3: It should be a fun one in Dallas, obviously, the

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Speaker 3: been ravel. Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 3: Really have the a new guest the first time to

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Speaker 3: the Twentydle podcast.

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Speaker 1: Nickel cornerback. A Meek Robertson, thanks for joining me. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate y'all. Man, appreciate you'll. I have me in man.

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Speaker 3: All right, you're you're new, So let's start with this.

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Speaker 3: What's something Detroit fans don't know.

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Speaker 1: About A Meek Robertson.

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Speaker 6: It's a lot, you know, But I would think what

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Speaker 6: all you know? What always come to my head would

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Speaker 6: probably be what my name? You know my name means?

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Speaker 6: My name is a Meek, of course everybody knows, and

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Speaker 6: a Meek is my mom's name is spelled backwards. So

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Speaker 6: my mom name is Chema. Okay, okay, I am A

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Speaker 6: and my name is spelled A M.

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Speaker 1: I K. I like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. Kind of unique, man, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: What was it about Detroit?

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Speaker 1: You spent your first four years with the Raiders? What

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Speaker 1: was it about Detroit? This free agency process, this situation.

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Speaker 2: That fit you?

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Speaker 1: And has it turned out to be what you thought

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Speaker 2: To sign.

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Speaker 6: Everything? I thought it would be this it's happening. You know,

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Speaker 6: why you know, every other team reached out, even teens

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Speaker 5: Like whatever.

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Speaker 6: I don't care about the Carlton Davis trade whatever, like

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Speaker 6: I want to go there and earn it whatever they

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Speaker 5: I want to go there because I felt like.

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Speaker 6: I need to be here man, you know, being able

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Speaker 5: We had a young group.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: I could tell the play start the way they played

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Speaker 3: And you fit in really nicely in the Nika. You've

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Speaker 1: You're kind of one of those guys that like.

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Speaker 3: Wherever they needed you you could play. What's been the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I just love this defense man. You know,

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Speaker 6: I you know, AG always tell me just be yourself

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Speaker 3: And it's a relatively young not young, but new secondar.

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Speaker 3: You guys haven't played a lot together. You guys had

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Speaker 3: And how long does that take in your history of

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Speaker 6: Oh that I can't really I can't really respond to it.

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Speaker 6: But as long as you try to get as long

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Speaker 5: And that's what we look for every day.

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Speaker 6: You know, we we we try to learn each other,

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Speaker 5: We're trying to get over.

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Speaker 6: We're just trying to get better each and every day

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Speaker 3: It was so far this year you've been pretty darn

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks have a seventy four passer rating, win throw at

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Speaker 2: You've played outside, you.

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Speaker 5: Made matchups, always been around the balls.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Like I say, being myself, you know, uh, and

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Speaker 6: It it gives me opportunity, yea, to get my hands

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Speaker 1: But it's as about playing physical too, being good in

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Speaker 5: I like he know? You know I like that.

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Speaker 5: I tell him all the time. Man put me in

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Speaker 6: I told him last week, Man, whenever was the before

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Speaker 5: Him, Man, Dan, give me some aks.

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Speaker 6: You man, you know what I'm saying because y'all had

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Speaker 5: You know it's still early. Those plays will come.

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Speaker 6: I just gotta try to stay consistent, continue working and

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Speaker 2: You come here.

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Speaker 3: Look, the league wants offense, they want scoring, and they

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Speaker 3: want big plays. And so how tough was that transition

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Speaker 3: for you. And Terry's a smart guy, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it seems like he's gonna figure that out. But how

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Speaker 3: tough was that transition for you? If you put yourself

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Speaker 3: in his she was four years ago.

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Speaker 6: If I'm being honest, man, Tarrion is way past. While

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Speaker 6: I was coming in. I wasn't a scrappy guy whatever,

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Speaker 6: but badly playing my rookie years. I was mentally not

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Speaker 6: you know, not there my rookie years. So I tell

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Speaker 6: him all the time, man, continue being you. It's just

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Speaker 6: the fact that sometimes he doesn't, you know. He I

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Speaker 6: tell him work on certain little things, like getting his

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Speaker 6: head around, you know, because sometimes just don't pay me.

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Speaker 6: Because most of the time, man, those quarterbacks, those balls

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Speaker 6: be horrible, you know.

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Speaker 5: So just get your.

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Speaker 6: Head around, man, you you'll be all right, continue being you,

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Speaker 6: because what we don't want is him to lose their

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Speaker 6: edge and lose his his his great and his ability

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Speaker 6: to be him, which is being a dog, you know.

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Speaker 6: So we just tell him all the time, man, continue playing,

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Speaker 6: Just work on a little thing. As far as getting

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Speaker 6: his head around, I think turn out want to be fine.

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Speaker 1: You see the penalty.

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Speaker 3: I think you'd be more concerned if he was getting

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Speaker 3: beat if he was in a position to make a play,

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Speaker 3: if he wasn't right there.

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Speaker 1: That's technique. You're going to figure that.

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Speaker 5: That's something. That's what I'm saying. That's something he's going

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Speaker 5: to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: Mentally, he's he's he's there.

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Speaker 6: He's ahead of Like I said, he's he's very far

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Speaker 6: from wild was you know, and I and I tell

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Speaker 6: him that all the other time.

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Speaker 1: There you go, are gonna love to hear that one.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Dallas a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You weren't here last year, but obviously how that game

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Speaker 3: ended Week seventeen, a lot of controversy.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys have had.

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Speaker 1: Detroit's number here the last few years.

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Speaker 3: Just how much are you guys looking forward to this

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Speaker 3: matchup going on the road us against them mentality? And

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Speaker 3: then with you personally, Look, you're gonna see CD in

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Speaker 3: the slot. And what do you like about those matchups

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Speaker 3: against those all pro those superstar type guys.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you know, I don't want to seem too far

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Speaker 6: as a team. You know, we know what we gotta do.

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Speaker 6: We look at it as you know, another game.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know it's you know, it's just as portant as

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Speaker 6: as last week with I mean, you know, a couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks before with Seattle, you know, we every time,

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Speaker 6: like I said, we got a twenty four our rulee, man,

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Speaker 6: you know we win twenty four. Our rule get back

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Speaker 6: to what's you know, what matter? Which is the next

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Speaker 6: next team?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: So of course Dallas is a good team. No they are.

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Speaker 5: They're a good team. But we're a good team too.

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Speaker 6: Long as we own a detail, as long as we

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Speaker 6: practice it together, like I said before, we trust in

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Speaker 6: one another, we'll be fine. We just got to be ourselves, man,

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Speaker 6: and go out there and play lions lines football.

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Speaker 3: How good can this defense be when you guys get

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Speaker 3: all the pieces figured out? You know that that that

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Speaker 3: secondary settles and gets more time together to we've we've

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Speaker 3: seen how good you guys can be in Arizona. Obviously

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Speaker 3: against the Bucks you were terrific. Just how good do

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Speaker 3: you think this defense?

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Speaker 6: We can be very man, we can be very good.

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Speaker 6: We can be very good. We can you know, we

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Speaker 6: can get we can get there and make it happen.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't speak to you know. We still

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Speaker 6: got a lot of weeks you know ahead of us.

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Speaker 6: You know, like I said, we just got to continue

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Speaker 6: keep an eye heading the swivel, working on the little

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Speaker 6: things and continue building because if you're doing that, you

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Speaker 6: can better each and every week.

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Speaker 5: Man, the team is going to be. It was already

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Speaker 5: good last year. You know.

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Speaker 6: Now they they got some pieces you know that can

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Speaker 6: get us, get us over that homep and I know

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Speaker 6: we can.

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Speaker 5: I know we can do it.

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Speaker 6: We just got to keep ahead on the swivel and

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Speaker 6: keep working, trusting one another.

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Speaker 1: Big one this week, national stage in Dallas.

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Speaker 5: It should be fun.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: You guys are off.

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Speaker 3: You guys are off to a great start and we're

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Speaker 3: looking for a lot more. I appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 3: It's been really good. Get insight. Appreciate a Meek Robertson everybody.

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Speaker 3: Back to the twenty of the Huddle podcast presented by Microsoft.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the other perspective a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Let's get all the info on Dallas. John Michoda does

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Speaker 3: a terrific job covering everything Dallas Cowboys for the Athletic John,

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Speaker 3: thanks for joining the twenty of the Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you absolutely, thanks for having on.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's start with this and injuries obviously play a

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Speaker 3: factor in every game, Detroit Lions afforded the buy in

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Speaker 3: Week five, so they run the practice field early in

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Speaker 3: the week. All fifty three players on their active roster

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Speaker 3: were participating in practice. They're the healthiest they've been since

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Speaker 3: Week one. The Dallas Cowboys not so much. What's the

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Speaker 3: injury update with Dallas? There's a lot of big names

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Speaker 3: on that list. Who can Lions fans expect to be

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Speaker 3: available not be available Sunday when Detroit rolls into Dallas.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, those things lining up great for the Lions. H

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Speaker 8: This is about as banged up as the Cowboys have

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Speaker 8: been in a while, and particularly where they've been hit

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Speaker 8: the most is that defensive end. I mean, it would

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Speaker 8: be a long shot for Michael Parsons to play in

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Speaker 8: this game. He suffered a high high ankle spring two

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Speaker 8: games ago. And it just lines up perfect because a

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Speaker 8: Cowboys bye week is next week, So just kind of

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Speaker 8: lined up where you're like, Okay, they have the bye

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Speaker 8: week and then right after that they get the Niners,

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Speaker 8: who've been the absolute thorn in their side for several

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Speaker 8: years now, So it just made sense that, Okay, they'll

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Speaker 8: probably bring him back for that game. So I think

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Speaker 8: it's very unlikely that Michael Parsons plays in this game,

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Speaker 8: so that's obviously the biggest. The biggest loss DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 8: who got put on IR recently, so that's their other

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Speaker 8: starting defensive end.

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Speaker 7: He won't be in this game.

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Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks, their number two wide receiver, recently put on IR.

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Speaker 8: He'll be out for three more games, so he's obviously

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Speaker 8: not playing in this one.

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Speaker 7: Those would be the biggest ones.

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Speaker 8: But then the other the other part that hurt them

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Speaker 8: is Marshawn nieland kid that went to Western Michigan. He

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Speaker 8: gets hurt early against Pittsburgh, and this was kind of

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Speaker 8: his opportunity a second round pick, step up, be one

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Speaker 8: of the starting defensive ends and maybe really you know,

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Speaker 8: take his game to the next level with these opportunities

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Speaker 8: with Lawrence and Parsons being out.

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Speaker 7: But he gets a knee injury. Fortunately for him and.

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Speaker 8: The Cowboys, it's not season ending, but he's not going

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Speaker 8: to probably play for another four to six weeks. And

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Speaker 8: so those are those are the big ones for sure.

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Speaker 8: Tyler Goeyitton, the rookie left tackle, their first round pick.

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Speaker 8: He suffered a knee injury in the game and didn't

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Speaker 8: come back, but it looked like he potentially could have.

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Speaker 8: They just wanted to err on the side of caution.

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Speaker 8: I think there's a decent chance he plays in this game.

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Speaker 8: The one notable that this news just kind of came

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Speaker 8: out yesterday is that Steven Jones told their team website

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Speaker 8: that there is a chance that Droon Blank could play

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Speaker 8: in this game. Now, he's one of their starting corners.

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Speaker 8: That he had a foot injury before the season even started,

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Speaker 8: and he has been out. We've seen him working on

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Speaker 8: the resistance cords on the side, but not doing anything

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Speaker 8: team or any any drills. He's still in IR he

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Speaker 8: has to be activated, and so that's a guy right

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Speaker 8: there that that would be a big boost them if

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Speaker 8: he comes back. But also there's the part of it

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Speaker 8: is just how effective can he be? Certainly not going

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Speaker 8: to play the whole game, So no, the Cowboys are

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Speaker 8: definitely banged up.

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Speaker 3: Felt nine interceptions for him and I think what five

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Speaker 3: return for touchdown, So that's a big boost for that defense.

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Speaker 3: But look, John, sometimes is it a blessing in disguise

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Speaker 3: that you get some of these injuries and then you

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Speaker 3: get some of these younger players to kind of start playing,

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Speaker 3: get some experience start their development. You look at all

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Speaker 3: the injuries that Dallas had last week, and you watch

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Speaker 3: that game against Pittsburgh. I think they allowed two hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty five yards. You know, they the Steelers were

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Speaker 3: three for twelve on third down, and you know, you

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Speaker 3: look at some of the guys like like Lawson and

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Speaker 3: Goldston and you know, you know Tyrus, we all had

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Speaker 3: a half sack. So can it be sometimes a blessing

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Speaker 3: in disguise because you get some of these guys in

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Speaker 3: and then when you get healthy, now you've got some

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Speaker 3: guys that have played and contributed, and maybe you're a

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Speaker 3: deeper team overall.

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Speaker 2: You just have to kind of weather the storm while

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Speaker 2: you're in it.

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Speaker 8: So that's the way the Cowboys are looking at it,

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Speaker 8: and I can get on board with that. I'll just say, though,

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Speaker 8: I think that you'd prefer maybe the injuries, if you're

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Speaker 8: going to have this many, be in some different spots

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Speaker 8: as opposed to just all these defensive ends. Because I

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Speaker 8: did think it was gonna be a great opportunity for

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Speaker 8: Kneel and then for him to go down, You're just like,

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Speaker 8: because he I mean, he was trending in a good direction.

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Speaker 8: The coaches love him when they drafted in the second round.

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Speaker 8: It just it really was a kind of a blinking

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Speaker 8: light of this is probably DeMarcus Lawrence's heir apparent. Lawrence

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Speaker 8: only has one year left. This is his final year

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Speaker 8: of his contract, so you see a step going forward.

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Speaker 7: It's Kneelan.

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Speaker 8: The other thing that's kind of key here at defensive

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Speaker 8: end is they had a guy in Sam Williams who

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Speaker 8: they thought was going to be like their number three

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Speaker 8: guy in that rotation, and he suffered a knee injury

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Speaker 8: early in camp and was lost for the season. So

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Speaker 8: it's like they're, yeah, what they went into the season

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Speaker 8: is their top four d ns none of them will

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Speaker 8: be on the field against the Lions, you know. So

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Speaker 8: that and that's you know, I mean, you know from

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Speaker 8: watching them last year play the Lions, it's that was

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Speaker 8: one of their strengths, you know, is you don't want

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Speaker 8: to get behind and the cowboys on the scoreboard, because

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Speaker 8: that lets them pin their ears back and just come

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Speaker 8: with this defensive end rotation and sometimes even get more

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Speaker 8: than two out on the field and really cause havoc.

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Speaker 8: And they really hadn't had that opportunity this year. And

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Speaker 8: then as soon as they start playing well, they'll lose

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Speaker 8: these guys to injuries. So it'll help those young guys,

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Speaker 8: no question about it. But it's almost too much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last year you look at Dallas at at and

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Speaker 3: T Stadium, undefeated. That was one of the toughest places

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Speaker 3: to play in all the NFL. And it's been a

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Speaker 3: little bit weird. You know, they're zero to two, they

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Speaker 3: haven't won at home yet. Just how much has that been?

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Speaker 3: Maybe a talking point this week, a point of emphasis

657
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Speaker 3: that they've got to get back to winning at home

658
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: because if you don't win football games in this league,

659
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: you're not gonna be where you want to be in

660
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 3: January and February.

661
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 7: No question.

662
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 8: And it is so strange because they weren't a great

663
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 8: road team the previous two years, why they were so

664
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 8: great at home, and then this year they start out

665
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 8: on the road three and oher but then can't win

666
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 8: at home, and it's easy to connect to that's to

667
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 8: when this whole streak at home ended, and that was

668
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 8: in the playoff game to the Packers where they just

669
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 8: got punched in the mouth. I mean that game was

670
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 8: basically over before it started, and it made me wonder

671
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 8: how they would come into this season, like, would there

672
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 8: be a hangover over that?

673
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 7: I mean, that was to me.

674
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 8: It's the worst loss in Cowboys history when you factor

675
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 8: in everything they had going for them, the talent, how

676
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 8: healthy they were at that time. They kind of backed

677
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 8: into the two seed, I mean, and then to lay

678
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 8: that egg at home where they had been the best

679
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 8: team in the NFL for two years. I thought for

680
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 8: sure there would be a hangover, and maybe they'd just

681
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 8: been the hangover at home because they have been They

682
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 8: have been good on the road surprisingly, and so that's

683
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 8: definitely something on their mind. They know that if they're

684
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 8: going to get to the playoffs, they're not going to

685
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 8: do it.

686
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 7: But I just went on the road.

687
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 8: They got to take care of their home games, and

688
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 8: so that's why this one is huge for them, especially

689
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 8: going into the bye week.

690
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: You're another thing that jumped out to me, John, and

691
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: again I'm talking with John Mishoud. It does a great

692
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: job covering everything Dallas for the Athletic thirty first in rushing.

693
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: You know, when you look at Dallas over the years,

694
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 3: and obviously you know when Zeke was humming along, It's

695
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: just that was always just something you knew Dallas was

696
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: going to come in with that offensive line, with that

697
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: run game, they were going to control that part of

698
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: the game. Their passing game played off and you knew

699
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: you were in for a fistfight, you know, with the

700
00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: ground game.

701
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: That hasn't been the case so far this year. Who's

702
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: the number one running back in Dallas right now? Is it?

703
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: Doubt all?

704
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: And kind of what'spend maybe slowing them up.

705
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: Look, I know they've got DAK and I know they

706
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 3: got CD and they put money, big money into that,

707
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: and that's kind of, you know, their bread and butter.

708
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: But you've got to be a little bit more balanced.

709
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: And what we're seeing number two in passing, number thirty

710
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: one in rushing. I don't know if that's sustainable through

711
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: seventeen games.

712
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 7: No, it's probably not.

713
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 8: And it is interesting how the running game, certainly since

714
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 8: they drafted zeke in twenty sixteen, and really even the

715
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 8: two years before that, you know with DeMarco Murray helped

716
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 8: them kind of turn it around in fourteen when he

717
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 8: led the league in rushing and had the Cowboys all

718
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 8: time you know, best season rushing.

719
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 7: So they go and draft Zeke.

720
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 8: U was a top five pick, and that's a time

721
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 8: when a lot of people were talking about the running

722
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 8: back position being devalued. Not only do they use the

723
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 8: high pick on him, then they give him a monster

724
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 8: contract and then that didn't pay off. And it's almost

725
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 8: like it's almost like Jerry Jones and company were like, Hey,

726
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 8: we're going to We're going to go the far the

727
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 8: opposite end, and we're not going to give We're not

728
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 8: spending anything at running back. It's crazy to see how

729
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 8: much has changed because you know, it is Rico Doubdle

730
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 8: To answer your question, that is their number one guy.

731
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 8: We kind of knew that going into the season, just

732
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 8: because he's the youngest guy. He's gonna have the freshest legs. Now,

733
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 8: Zeke has still got the He is the guy that

734
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 8: you need to go do in third and one, you know,

735
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 8: on the goal line, short yard stuff. I mean, he

736
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 8: absolutely still has enough gas in the tank to give you,

737
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 8: you know, five ten carries a game. But it's definitely

738
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 8: Ricodoubdell was their one. But it's also kind of interesting

739
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 8: because down here we're wearing out Mike McCarthy and Jerry

740
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 8: Jones with questions about Dalvin Cook because they signed him,

741
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 8: you know, right before the season started. He hasn't been

742
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 8: active for any of these games, and so for me,

743
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 8: I'm just kind of like, Okay, well, if he hasn't

744
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 8: been active yet, it's clearly not the Dalvin that was

745
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 8: in Minnesota, or he would be out there. It's not

746
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 8: like they're just well, we got so many talented backs,

747
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 8: we just can't get them any time.

748
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 7: So that keeps on that.

749
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy said last week that he hasn't been getting

750
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 8: some some reps with the ones here and there in

751
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 8: some team drills. But I still don't even think this

752
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 8: is the game. I still think they're gonna wait time

753
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 8: for the buye to potentially use him. I think this

754
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 8: game still is going to be a Rico dalut Ezekiel

755
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 8: Ellie game. But yeah, the way that that game went

756
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 8: last year, the way that this team has played this year,

757
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 8: I just do not see the Cowboys being able to

758
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 8: run in the Lions.

759
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: Then what is when you look at this matchup and

760
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: you look at some of the rankings and a lot

761
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: of similarities between these two teams through Detroit's first four

762
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: games Dallas' first five games, what do you see as

763
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: the biggest key for Dallas to come away Sunday national

764
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: audience with their first win at AT and D Stadium,

765
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: get to four and two and kind of continue this

766
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: recent dominance over the Lions. What's the number one thing

767
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: they have to do in your opinion?

768
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 8: So I'm kind of laughing just because to be one

769
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 8: hundred percent transparent, I did say this last week going

770
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 8: into the Steelers game, and that kind of surprised me

771
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 8: that this didn't happen.

772
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 7: But I'm doubling down there.

773
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 8: I don't see a way that they beat the Lions

774
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 8: without a big day from Dak and CD, and there

775
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 8: really hasn't been that.

776
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 7: I mean, they were great last year.

777
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 8: You look at their numbers at the end of the year,

778
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 8: it's there's a big reason why Dak ended up getting

779
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 8: becoming the highest paid player in the league, and CD

780
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 8: is now the number two highest paid non quarterback. So

781
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 8: it's really the three highest paid players in the NFL

782
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 8: right now are Dak, Prescott, Justin Jefferson, and Cede Lamb.

783
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 8: So it's like they gave all that money to those

784
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 8: two guys because it's like, Hey, this is gonna be

785
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 8: this is gonna be our now and this gonna be

786
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 8: our future. And you look at the way they paid

787
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 8: last season. I mean, just you take the Lions game.

788
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 8: How well Dak and CD played in there. That is

789
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 8: That is the key. I just do not see away,

790
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 8: especially with all these injuries that you know. I always

791
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 8: say it's like I'm certainly not a coach. I would

792
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 8: never even try to be an NFL coach. But whenever

793
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 8: I talk to somebody else that covers another team, I

794
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 8: always say, Man, if I was going against the Cowboys,

795
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 8: my number one thing is I'm throwing two three guys

796
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 8: at Cede Lamb. Make them beat you with somebody else.

797
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 8: Jake Ferguson's a very good tight end. Last year they

798
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 8: had Tony Pollard, which which gave them some quality in

799
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 8: the run game.

800
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 7: They don't have that this year.

801
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks is out, So you want Jalen Tolbert to

802
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 8: be the guy that beat you now that we're out

803
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 8: for the Cowboys. He had the game winning touchdown against

804
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 8: the Steelers. But I feel like that's what you want

805
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 8: to happen when you're playing the Cowboys. You want them

806
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 8: to have to go to those other players. You don't

807
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 8: want CD to have two hundred and twenty some yards

808
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 8: and just go off that's when the Cowboys are at

809
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 8: their best, and to win this game, I think that's

810
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 8: what they would have to have happen.

811
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lions fans found that out firsthand last year. Thirteen catches,

812
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty seven yards and a touchdown that

813
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: game against Detroit Week seventeen. You know, it's funny, John,

814
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: I think that game was part of the reason why

815
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: Detroit went into this offseason.

816
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't the only reason. There are many games leading.

817
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: Up where Detroit really struggled against high caliber wide receivers

818
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: in passing games. It's a completely different secondary now. I mean,

819
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: I don't even think Dallas fans are gonna recognize any

820
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: of the names that they saw week seventeen.

821
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: Brian Branch is probably the only one.

822
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Kirby Joseph, but this is a completely revamped sepocate secondary.

823
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: They think they're better equipped to handle, you know, matchups

824
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: like this. Any talk with among Stallus players just about

825
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: kind of this Detroit defense. It's an aggressive, man style defense,

826
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: and they really trust those guys in the secondary. This

827
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: isn't a defense that really double teams guys that looks

828
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: to take away one guy.

829
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: They play their style. They play man defense.

830
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: It seems like there's gonna be some opportunities for CD

831
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: to make some plays, but but Troy is is gonna

832
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: play their style.

833
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is interesting, but we haven't had locker room

834
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 8: access yet.

835
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 7: Pretty much.

836
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 8: On these normal weeks, we get Mike McCarthy and the

837
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 8: coordinators on Monday. Nothing on Tuesday, but covering the Cowboys.

838
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 8: You just Tuesday's always Jerry talks Tuesday morning the radio.

839
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 8: But Wednesday and Thursdays are our days to get locker room,

840
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 8: so we'll have that today. So I haven't heard anything

841
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 8: from them yet because when last time we talked to

842
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 8: him in the locker room was all about the Steelers.

843
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 7: But it is.

844
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 8: It is interesting because of the fact that you go

845
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 8: back to that draft that was just so great for Detroit.

846
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 8: Being a native you know, Metro Detroit man, that was

847
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 8: so awesome to see the turnout down there, and then

848
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 8: just to be someone covering the Cowboys and then here,

849
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, in the first round, the Lions

850
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 8: are trading with the Cowboys to move up to get

851
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 8: Terry and Arnold. And it's interesting how this season has

852
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 8: played out so far too, because I know, you know,

853
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 8: Lions fans have kind of been on Arnold for being

854
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 8: kind of grabby and.

855
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 7: Stuff like that.

856
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 8: Well, the pick that the that the Cowboys got when

857
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 8: they trade it back from the Lions is Tyler goeyiton

858
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 8: and left tackle. He's been gravvy and had too many penalties,

859
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 8: and so it is interesting to see the.

860
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Two fas rookie. It must be a rookie thing.

861
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: It is.

862
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 8: But but I will also say that like with both players,

863
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 8: I just feel like it's like, Okay, I get it,

864
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 8: it's the NFL a more than ever young guys play.

865
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 8: But it's like they're both so talented and just like

866
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 8: just give them time. It'll it'll be fine. Like they

867
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 8: both answer major areas of weakness. But it is also

868
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 8: gonna be interesting because Arnold probably will get his his

869
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 8: moments against Ceedee Lamb, and I do expect Gutton to

870
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 8: play in this game, coming off to the injury, and

871
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 8: he's getting thrown to the Wolves against Aiden Hutchinson who

872
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 8: had three sacks last year with Tyron Smith trying to

873
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 8: block him. So yeah, they're gonna have their hands full there.

874
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 8: Tyler Guidan is definitely this is gonna be one of

875
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 8: those games where, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of

876
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 8: eyes on him.

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Speaker 3: I think young players are gonna make a big impact

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Speaker 3: in this game, and it's a big one. You know,

879
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: early in the season, Detroit's, you know, trying to go

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Speaker 3: on the road. They were hoping to see Dallas in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. To be honest with you, I mean, if

882
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: they had their choice, they obviously loved hosting Tampa Bay,

883
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Speaker 3: but they would not have been upset at all given

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Speaker 3: what happened the end of that game in Dallas. To

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Speaker 3: have another chance at the Cowboys in Dallas. They've been

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00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: looking forward to this game. They've been circling. It's an

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Speaker 3: NFC opponent, It's probably gonna have some impact on the

888
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 3: playoffs at the end of the year. It's a fun

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Speaker 3: Week six matchup. I'm looking forward to it. It should

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Speaker 3: be a fun one. There should be plenty of points scored,

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Speaker 3: I'm expecting, and so John, thanks for taking the time

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your insight.

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Speaker 3: Really good stuff, and I'll make sure I come and

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Speaker 3: say hello in Dallas.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I look forward to it. Thanks for having man