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Speaker 2: do is talk about a woman. You may have heard

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Speaker 2: her name if you pay attention to the news a lot,

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Speaker 2: but most people don't know who she is. And her

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Speaker 2: name's Lindsey Horvath. Lindsay Horvath is an LA County supervisor.

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Speaker 2: And we have a bizarre system of government in California

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Speaker 2: and in LA specifically, where the county is ten million

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Speaker 2: people and it doesn't have a mayor or governor per se.

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Speaker 2: It has five supervisors governing five districts. Each district is

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Speaker 2: two million people, which two million people is more than

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Speaker 2: a lot of states. So each supervisor is responsible for

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Speaker 2: a state, and it's all different parts of LA County,

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Speaker 2: and you know, some of them wealthier than others, different

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Speaker 2: ethnic and racial mixes, different economic mix mixes. Lindsey Horvath

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Speaker 2: represents the West Side and she's all out woke progressive.

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Speaker 2: She also wants to be mayor. Keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff she does is what they

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Speaker 2: but it's being used more than ever performative and she's

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Speaker 2: And yesterday she went on Fox eleven Good Day LA,

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Speaker 2: if they use county property for staging areas arrested. Now

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Speaker 2: this I want to see. Of course, what she says

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Speaker 2: is complete nonsense. Local police cannot arrest federal law enforcement

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Speaker 2: while law enforcement is doing their legal duties. That is,

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Speaker 2: that is completely crazy land. We used to see crazy

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Speaker 2: people like this, and they'd be standing on a street

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Speaker 2: corner without pants, frothing at the mouth and waving a sign.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd have a little portable amplifier so they shout used.

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Speaker 2: They used to shout about you know, end of days

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Speaker 2: are coming. Uh Embrace Jesus that that kind of person,

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Speaker 2: wild haired, bad teeth, drugged out, smells bad. That's where

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Speaker 2: you used to run into this kind of crazy. Now

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Speaker 2: you turn on a TV morning news show and you

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Speaker 2: get a well dressed, well coifed supervisor who sounds like

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Speaker 2: one of those nuts, and you can't. This is like

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Speaker 2: Kevin Newsom was was preening over his masking band. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you could wear a mask if you were a federal

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Speaker 2: ice agent. I said, well, so who's going to arrest

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Speaker 2: the The ice agents are still around them, they're still

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Speaker 2: arresting people. They're still doing raids in California. But no

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Speaker 2: sheriff's deputy, no local police officer, has dared arrest them.

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Speaker 2: That's not a thing. There's something called the supremacy Clause,

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Speaker 2: which says that federal law supersedes state and local law.

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Speaker 2: It does, It's been that way for literally two hundred

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Speaker 2: her own personal version of the Constitution. So we'll play

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Speaker 2: you this crazy person, and I'm going to keep myself

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Speaker 2: from interrupting. I think you should hear this in its entirety. First,

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Speaker 2: this is Lindsay Horrvath, LA County Supervisor on Fox eleven

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Speaker 2: Good Day LA.

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Speaker 3: They cannot use our property as a staging ground for

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Speaker 3: we are saying is they have to follow due process.

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Speaker 3: They have to use a federal judicial warrant, which is

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Speaker 3: the proper process in order to do their jobs. We

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Speaker 3: and we have to take a stand. And if they don't,

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Speaker 3: would Ice be arrested essentially by county sheriffs department? How

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Speaker 3: would that work? I think that's what we're asking, is

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Speaker 4: Reach out to Ice this morning, so we wanted to

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Speaker 4: read their statement here and get your reaction to this.

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Speaker 4: They said, this is illegally illiterate. Enforcing federal immigration laws

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Speaker 4: is a clear federal responsibility and an Article one, Article two,

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Speaker 4: They went on to direct us to their website which

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Speaker 3: And we aren't standing in their way of executing federal

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Speaker 3: Renee Nicole Good. We cannot have that happening in our

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Speaker 3: And so we need our communities to know that they're

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Speaker 2: What communities is she talking about? Not American citizens, not taxpayers,

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Speaker 2: not the people in La County that pay her salary,

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Speaker 2: not that community. She's talking about the community of illegal

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Speaker 2: representing and protecting. But let's go back and Bob DeCastro

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Speaker 2: love the phrase that the Fed's used. It's illegal and illiterate.

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Speaker 2: It's Article one, Article two. It's the supremacy clause. There's

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Speaker 2: no such thing as local law enforcement arresting federal law enforcement. Also,

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Speaker 2: you do not need a warrant to collect illegal aliens.

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Speaker 2: They always throw in this federal warrant. You don't need it.

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Speaker 2: The fact that they're here illegally is the basis of

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Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. They've tracked down these criminals. And

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Speaker 2: is so nuts. I can't describe it in any other way.

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Speaker 2: This is not a difference of opinion. This is somebody

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Speaker 2: it's a sanctuary, and we talked about seceastory. Sanctuary is

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Speaker 2: harboring illegal alien, violent criminal fugitives, don't. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Lindsay Horvath wants to meet the victims of some

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Speaker 2: you saw that the car accelerated. Renee Good accelerated her

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Speaker 2: really funny, this is started circulating on the internet. In

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota, of all people,

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Speaker 2: that's a crime. He actually signed that law. So there's

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Speaker 2: no question that a crime was committed there by Nicole Good,

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Speaker 2: not the ice officer. And if you read, the ice

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Speaker 2: can't believe we have to debate these things out loud.

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Speaker 2: But again, it's like debating a crazy person without pants

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Speaker 2: are making up federal law. Oh yeah, right, a local

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Speaker 2: That's so nuts. And credit to Bob di Castro for

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Speaker 2: pushing back on it, because these people are never getting

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Speaker 2: the people hearing this. Politicians in LA and in California

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Speaker 2: in general never get pushed back on by the media.

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Speaker 2: They never do because a lot of the media is

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Speaker 2: they act as as as a bullhorn as an amplifier.

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Speaker 2: All right, if you have a crazy person like Lindsay

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Speaker 2: Horvath shouting nonsense, often the media is the bullhorn that

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Speaker 2: total fiction, total nonsense. You wait till she becomes mayor.

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Speaker 2: You'll see. I'm sure she will. All the crazy people

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have Bill A. Sally on the he's acting

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and the Trump administration. Bill A. Sally

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Speaker 2: is going to come on and explain what the law is.

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Speaker 2: Maybe somebody want to contact Lindsay Horvath and have her

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Speaker 2: listen to a real expert on this.

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Speaker 2: Bill Sally is going to be coming on at one

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Speaker 2: point thirty and we will go through Lindsay Horvath's statements

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Speaker 2: claiming that sheriff's deputy's will arrest ice agents if they

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Speaker 2: stage on county property. I want to play her comments

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Speaker 2: and start this thing. Eric, if we could, all right,

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Speaker 2: so we could go line by line over this insanity.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, she's not the only one obviously

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Speaker 2: and I'd say four out of the five for sure,

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Speaker 3: They cannot use our property as a staging ground for

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Speaker 2: Stop right there, stop right there. That is a complete lie.

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Speaker 2: That is propaganda, and that is nonsense. If she is

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Speaker 2: banking on some people having strong emotions about ice, why

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Speaker 2: they have these strong emotions Unless you're an illegal alien

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Speaker 2: I don't understand this resistance to the federal government enforcing

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Speaker 2: federal law. Yesterday. In fact, Eric, get that clip we

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Speaker 2: here are the tenets of immigration law, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to enforce them, and for the most part, we did

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Speaker 2: enforce these particular laws. They have not changed. We've had

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Speaker 6: If you're a criminal, You'll be deported. If you plan

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Speaker 2: Listening the applause here, and the applause went twice as long.

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Speaker 2: That's Bill Clinton nineteen ninety five State of the Union Address,

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Speaker 2: Nothing they said there is different than what Trump is saying.

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Speaker 2: But now here. In twenty twenty six, Lindsey Horvath is

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Speaker 3: If they don't, would ice be arrested essentially by county

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Speaker 5: I think that's what.

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Speaker 3: We're asking is so what we're what we're saying is

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so it's yes, And this is about ice

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Speaker 8: just be very clear, John, what the what the Democrats

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Speaker 8: I speak with a lot of these police chiefs and

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Speaker 1: It will have no force, weight, or effect.

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Speaker 2: I'm not aware that any masked ICE agent has been

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Speaker 8: Well, that law, they did pass it, we challenged it.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think, as you said, any local sheriff

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Speaker 8: Number one, we actually have a pretty good relationship, I

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Speaker 8: You know, we are making progress in public safety, as

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Speaker 8: So why ruin all of that over appeasing criminal legal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: This chaos that.

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Speaker 8: If they would cooperate with immigration officials like almost all

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Do you think she believes what she says or she's

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Speaker 8: She's performing.

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Speaker 1: But you know, their base is insane. Their base are.

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Speaker 1: I'm fighting for you and.

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Speaker 8: They all want to move up, and so they think

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Speaker 8: I don't know, because there is a forum to litigate

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Speaker 8: We do not like if you go and rob a bank,

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Speaker 1: And wait for a warrant to go rescue. If we have.

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Speaker 8: Probable cause you've committed a crime, or in the context

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Speaker 1: You do not need a war.

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Speaker 8: Weren't to do anything to do everything these.

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Speaker 2: People you're tracking down are in the justice system, so

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're they're playing a game because in the immigration context,

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Speaker 1: A removal order.

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Speaker 8: A removal order, and deportation.

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Speaker 1: Is not a warrant. It's an order to be removed.

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Speaker 8: We don't need a warrant to arrest you. So they're

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Speaker 1: That's not the law.

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Speaker 8: We can pick you up and remove you with an

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Speaker 1: We don't need a warrant. This is the game that

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Speaker 2: She counts on most people not knowing this, and people

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Speaker 2: Except they don't know what the law is and they

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Speaker 8: They don't care. This is about opposing the Trump immigration agenda.

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Speaker 1: At all costs.

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Speaker 8: They tried suing us in court, it didn't work. They

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Speaker 8: tried the riots, that didn't work. Now they're doing this

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Speaker 8: thing where they're trying to follow and impede us, but

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Speaker 8: we're arresting people. She's setting people up. Like, honestly, this

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Speaker 8: tragedy in Minnesota, that lady didn't have to die. If

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Speaker 8: the Democrats did not get these people so worked up

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Speaker 8: and so emboldened to confront and assault federal agents, that

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Speaker 8: whole situation would be avoided. But look what's going on

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Speaker 8: in the TV. You got basically devolving into a Third

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Speaker 8: World country in Minnesota because you have the leadership there

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Speaker 8: encouraging the public to rise up and resist to the

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Speaker 8: federal government. The last time we dealt with that was

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Speaker 8: probably during the Civil War.

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Speaker 2: What are they helping? This all leads to because they

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Speaker 2: know Trump's not going to back down. Tom Horbetz is

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Speaker 2: not going to back down. You're not going to back

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Speaker 2: down here locally. What's the endgame here? When they wake

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Speaker 2: up in the morning, what do they hope happens?

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Speaker 8: You know they I think what they're doing is they're

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Speaker 8: hoping that these images, these things are going to help

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Speaker 8: them in the next election. So they're taking a very

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Speaker 8: big bet. Say, most normal people I talk to support

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Speaker 8: what's happening. They want the streets cleaned up, they want

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Speaker 8: criminal legal immigrants removed, and they want cooperation with immigration authorities.

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Speaker 8: So I think they're taking a huge gamble here that

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Speaker 8: this is going to somehow help them in the elections.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, And I think in the meantime, Ken

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Speaker 8: or John John Orr Ken hasn't been there in a

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Speaker 8: long time, but.

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Speaker 1: Over me I see him.

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Speaker 8: In the meantime, they're just pissed off. They're so mad,

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Speaker 8: and they want to stop us at all costs.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Bill Salley, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks John.

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Speaker 2: All Right, he's the first Assistant United States Attorney Central

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Speaker 2: District of California, And if you don't believe me, you

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Speaker 2: can believe him. He's actually a lawyer, and he works

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Speaker 2: as the chief law enforcement officer for the federal government

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Speaker 2: in this district. Lindsey Horvath is completely up a tree.

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Speaker 2: And there's no such thing as local police or county

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Speaker 2: sheriff's deputies arresting federal ice agents. It's the supremacy. Couts

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Speaker 2: should go read it up yourself. If you don't believe me,

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Speaker 2: or you don't believe Bill, it's in black and white

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Speaker 2: from the founding Fathers.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do more on the illegal Immigration Center on

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis coming up after two o'clock. Brad Garrett ABC News

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Speaker 2: Crime and Terrorism analysts going to talk to him about

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Speaker 2: if he thinks that Ice is going about this the

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Speaker 2: right way because it's causing so much of a blowback.

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Speaker 2: So Brad Garrett will be on, but just for a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes, because when I find something disgusting, I

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Speaker 2: can't help but want to bring it up with you.

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Speaker 2: They have found a very rare disease in Berkeley in

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Speaker 2: a homeless encampment, leptospirosis.

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Speaker 9: What is that.

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Speaker 2: It's a bacterial disease that can cause severe and potentially

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Speaker 2: fatal illnesses in people and dogs. The disease was confirmed

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Speaker 2: in two dogs living at the camp back in December,

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Speaker 2: and so they trapped and tested rats, which carry the bacteria,

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Speaker 2: first time in five years in Alameda County, and the

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Speaker 2: Berkeley Public Health Officer, doctor Naomi Douhan, asked encampment residents

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Speaker 2: to move at least a third of a mile away

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Speaker 2: so crews can clean the site. Now they had this rare,

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Speaker 2: rare tropical bacteria which is almost never seen in the

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Speaker 2: United States, and what they should do is get everybody

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Speaker 2: off the street for good. Instead, can you go a

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Speaker 2: couple of blocks down the road and go infect that neighborhood?

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Speaker 9: But doesn't you know what, My dogs get vaccinated for that.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you know about this, you know?

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Speaker 10: For I was a little put off by it at first,

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Speaker 10: but then I realized, I just call it lepto. My

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Speaker 10: dogs get vaccinated for that. So sorry to disappoint John,

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Speaker 10: but I don't think I'm gonna get it. You should

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Speaker 10: check and see if.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't want you to get it. I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to gross you out of that.

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Speaker 10: Oh no, it is gross, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 10: Why are you moving these people?

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Speaker 1: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 10: Honestly, nothing surprises me about anything anymore.

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Speaker 2: They have rat infestations in the encampment. I mean they

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Speaker 2: live in the tents, right RV's. They live in the RVs.

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Speaker 2: And what the county wants to do is classify it

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Speaker 2: as irredeemable, irremediable biohazards and they want everything destroyed. However,

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Speaker 2: when they tried to clear the site in June, homeless

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Speaker 2: advocates sued and a federal judge blocked the city from

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Speaker 2: sweeping the camp until the with disabilities are given alternative accommodations.

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Speaker 9: So he'd rather people get sick the fatal.

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Speaker 2: Disease, yeah, which is a bit of the disability. Yes,

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Speaker 2: District Judge Edward Chen said again on Tuesday, despite the

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Speaker 2: health alert, the injunction will remain in place. And of

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Speaker 2: course Berkeley doesn't do anything to get the disabled people

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Speaker 2: alternate shelter. So we're at a standstill. The rats have

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Speaker 2: taken over. And now you have leptosporosis.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When symptoms occur, they're flu like in dogs. It causes vomiting,

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Speaker 2: extreme thirst, and can kill them if you don't treat

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Speaker 2: it right away. And he look at this. They quote

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Speaker 2: this guy, Anthony Prince. He's an attorney representing the homeless Union,

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Speaker 2: the homeless Union, and they go to court, and they

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Speaker 2: went in court and then this horrible tropical disease breaks out,

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Speaker 2: and still the judge goes, no, no, no, you.

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Speaker 9: Can rather people die.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Prince is blaming the city, claiming that the city

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Speaker 2: removed a dumpster from the encampment when it was going

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Speaker 2: through enforcement in June. The city has only exacerbated health

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Speaker 2: and safety issues. By refusing to put the dumpster back,

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Speaker 2: which has continued to attract rats, the city created the

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Speaker 2: health crisis. Oh, not the disgusting homeless people.

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Speaker 9: It's the city's fault.

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Speaker 2: It's the city's fault. Leptosporosis is considered a neglected tropical

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Speaker 2: disease common in underdeveloped countries, rarely seen in the US. Well,

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Speaker 2: parts of the US are sliding towards underdeveloped. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: it comes from rats. They spread their disease through their urine,

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Speaker 2: and people live in this and then they catch this

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Speaker 2: horrible disease and their dogs do what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 9: Because everybody has rights.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I don't understand. These are all conditions I never

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Speaker 2: saw or heard of for most of my life. And

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Speaker 2: then in the last like ten fifteen years, everybody goes yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've had rights to live and create a tropical disease,

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Speaker 2: harbor a tropical disease that kills people.

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Speaker 10: These people that are making the decisions, I wonder if

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Speaker 10: their family member comes down with this disease and they

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Speaker 10: change their tune.

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Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They're just so crazy. We come back Brad Garrett, no

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Speaker 2: place is crazier than Minneapolis right now because they had

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Speaker 2: these staged riots. And I'm convinced a lot of these

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Speaker 2: people are paid and a lot of this is performance.

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Speaker 2: But what's ICE's responsibility in this? Well, Brad Garrett's gonna

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Speaker 2: look at that. From ABC News Debra Mark Live in

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