1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: The search for seven year old JJ Valo and his sister, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: seventeen year old ty Lee Ryan, began at the end 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: of November, when their grandparents had been unable to reach 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: them for a number of weeks. They called police and 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: asked them to do a welfare check on the grandchildren. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: When police arrived, they talked to their mother, Laurie Valo, 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: who told police the children were visiting friends and family 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: out of state. Police tried to verify the information that 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Laurie Valo gave them, Failing at that, they went back 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: to have another discussion about the location of the children. However, 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Laurie Valo was gone. That began the search for seven 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: year old JJ Valo and seventeen year old Tyleie Ryan. 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Nate Eaton from East Idaho News dot Com has been 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: covering this story since its beginning, so has Ellen Killeram 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: with Crime Online dot Com. We have both of them 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: joining us today to get us updated on what's happening 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: in this case. We'll start with Nate Eaton. Nate, tell 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: me what has happened this week in the search for 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: JJ and So. Tuesday morning, dozens of police officers arrived 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: at Chad day Bell's home to serve a search warrant. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: The warrant was to search the property. He lives on 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: a large lot of property. You know. Police went there 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: in January and seized a bunch of electronic devices. They 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: didn't focus so much on the yard, but this warrant 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: this week was to focus on the yard. Chad day 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: Bell was there at the house when the warrant was served. 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: He went outside. Police immediately went to the backyard. We 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: were able to get in the helicopter right away and 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: fly over the house and I immediately noticed that they 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: were putting up blue canopies, some blue tarps, and they 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: had kind of a grid area in the backyard near 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: the fire pit. That's where they were focusing their search. 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: And within two or three hours, Chad day Bell was 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: arrested and placed into custody. We didn't know what that 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: was for. We just knew that he was placed into 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: And then two hours after that they announced that human 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: remains had been found on the property and they were 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: able to confirm that it was two sets of remains 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: belonging to children, and according to family members, those remains 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: are Jj and Tyley, the children who have been missing 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: since September. So those remains were taken to Boise for 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: an autopsy, where an autopsy was performed yesterday to get 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: a positive identification, and right now Chad was arrested. He's 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: being held in the Fremont County Jail on one million 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: dollars bond. Laurie, his wife, is being held in a 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: neighboring county, Mite, Madison County Jail on other charges. She 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been charged in connection to the death of her 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: children yet. That could be coming, but right now they're 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: holding her on the initial charges of abandoning her children. 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: A neighbor who has lived across from the day Belle 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: residence for many years noted that there were a couple 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: of big bonfires last fall, and then a couple more 53 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: bonfires in the past few months on the property. So 54 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: it sounded to me like he was indicating that having 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: bonfires out there was not a regular occurrence and had 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: just started in the fall and then again in the spring. 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: Is that a true assessment of what was going on? 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, that's from what we understand. Chad Davel's 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: kids moved in with him and we're living in the house. 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: When Tammy died back in October and the children started 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: to use the fire. Pity, they do live on a 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: large piece of property and they did have an official 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: fire pit back there, so yeah, they were having fires 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: in This neighbor did reports seeing bonfires out there, and 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: the remains were found very close to that fire pit. 66 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: They hadn't really seen information as far as you know, 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: if the children were burned or anything like that, but 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: one could assume that something happened. And right now the 69 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: case is stealed, so the details of how the children 70 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: died the condition of their bodies have not been released. 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: What we do know is that during the hearing the 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: other day, the prosecutors said that the concealment of one 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: of the bodies was particularly egregious. Those were his words, 74 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: particularly egregious. So we do know that there must be 75 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: something that was disturbing about the way one of these 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: children died or was buried. They were able to find 77 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: these bodies fast. I mean, it wasn't a matter of 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: hours from the moment they served astir point to the 79 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: moment they had the children out of the ground. It 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: was as if police knew exactly where to look. They 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't care up the yard, they didn't they didn't have 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: holes everywhere. They went right to a specific place, and 83 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: if you were to drive by that house today, you 84 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: would see nothing unusual, and they put the dirt right back. 85 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: It looks like a normal, average backyard. So I've heard 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: that within the past week or so police were able 87 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: to take a bunch of tiny little clues and tips 88 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: and put them all together into one big, solid puzzle piece, 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and that's what led them to the house this week. Well, 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: that was the one thing we noticed, is that they 91 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: only dug one hole, just one hole, And in covering 92 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: these types of story from stories for many, many years, 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen. It was, as you indicated, they 94 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: knew exactly where they were digging, they found what they 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: were looking for. And now I do want to point out, 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: and you alluded to this earlier, the confirmation of the 97 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: identity of the bodies has not come from any investigatory source. 98 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: The medical examiner has not confirmed it. We've gotten that 99 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: confirmation from the family members. And obviously we are dealing 100 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: with children, we are dealing with I mean, it's an 101 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: easy leap here. Let me ask you, though, Nate, because 102 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: you have been covering it, You're right, they're in the 103 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: thick of things. Is there any chance that Chad day 104 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: Bell is going to be able to raise a million 105 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: dollars bail? Very very very unlikely. And we know that 106 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: because Laurie has been in jail on one million dollars 107 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: bail and he has tried everything he could to get 108 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: her out. And when her attorney went before a judge 109 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago for a bond hearing, it was a three 110 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: hour hearing. As he pleaded with the judge to drop 111 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: her bonds, he was suggesting that they drop it down 112 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. He said that 113 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: they could afford two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to 114 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: get her out. Chad has not been working, he has 115 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: no income coming in. His books have not been selling, 116 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: and so he doesn't really have any money. If he 117 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: didn't have enough money to bail her out, I don't 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: think they have enough money to bail him out now. 119 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: He does have different circumstances. He has an extended family, 120 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: several brothers and sisters, He has parents, so they may 121 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: be able to raise the funds. Although his family has 122 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: issued statements in the past few days expressing their sorrow 123 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: and heartbreak for the remains that were found in the yards. 124 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: So it's unclear right now who's standing by him, but 125 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: we do know that he has not been released from jail, 126 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: and you've got to think that if additional charges come 127 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: in the next week or so, once the Emmy does 128 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: positively id these children and they're able to move forward 129 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: on more serious charges, that bond amount may be raised 130 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: even higher. Graham Online dot Com investigated journalist at Ellen 131 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: Keller and joining us, Ellen, what have you heard about 132 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: the bail amount and how other family members are responding 133 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: to the recent turn of events with regard to Chad Daybell. 134 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: The fact that the judge ordered him held on one 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: million dollars bail at the prosecutor's recommendation, even though the 136 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: charges that he's currently facing at this moment don't carry 137 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: that stiff of a penalty, indicates that the judge understands 138 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: there is something further coming down the pike. So I 139 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: don't think that we need to worry at all at 140 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: this point about Chad day Bell being released. I think 141 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: that he's going to stay in custody, and obviously Laurie 142 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: is too. Now you have been interviewing and talking with 143 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: many people surrounding the story and people in the area. 144 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: What have you uncovered recently about Chad day Bell and 145 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: his wife who passed away in October, Tammy, I have 146 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: been speaking to someone is the YouTuber briv the name 147 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: of Tyson Draper, who's who we've worked with before on 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: the Susanne Morphew case. He is on the ground there 149 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: right now and he went to the chat. He went 150 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: to Chad day Belle's home yesterday. He had a brief 151 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: conversation with Garth, who is one of Chad Dayville's son, 152 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: and he has fun video and we're going to have 153 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: that up on crime Online very shortly. He also spoke 154 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: to Emma Dave Bell actually her sorry, her married name 155 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: was Murray. He spoke to her. He did not court 156 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: that conversation, but he related to me what she said 157 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: to him. It wasn't a whole lot, but the impression 158 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: that Tyson says that he got from hers that she 159 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: had really been wanting to support her father and believing 160 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: her father, and he says that he got the sense 161 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: from her that her position has very much changed. One 162 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: detail that might be incidental, might not be, is that 163 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: Emma is actually moving into that home she up until 164 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: this week, she lived across the street with her husband 165 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: and their child or children, I'm not sure if they 166 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: have one or more than one, And she is now 167 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: moving into the home. So Chad day Bell and the 168 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: other adult young adult children that were living in that 169 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: home that was raided this week have already moved out, 170 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: and the family said that this was in the works. 171 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: So that's and but I haven't been able to get 172 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: any answers on where did Chad day Bell plan to move, 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: where was he going, and did the decision to move 174 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,479 Speaker 1: from that property have anything to do with this investigation? 175 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, So there was already a plan in the 176 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: works for them to leave the house, which explains why 177 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: we saw furniture and other things being taken out the 178 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: next day. That's right, the very next day. And I'll 179 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: admit when I when I saw the family's saying that 180 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: this was already planned, I thought that the timing was 181 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: really coincidential. It was kind of it was kind of 182 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: tough to not link it to what's been going on 183 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: in the home. But this person who spoke to Emma 184 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: said that the ausolready on the way and she she's 185 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: actually planning on moving into the house. So the house 186 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: is staying, staying in the family. But I'm very curious 187 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: to know where Chad Dayvill was planning on going. I 188 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: know everybody's a little bit different on this, but to 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't think I would want to live 190 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: in a home that was party to having bodies of 191 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: children in the yard, you know, right by where they 192 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: were having bonfires. Absolutely absolutely, And if it's true that 193 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: this was already in the works it is, I would 194 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: love to know. I'd love to speak to her myself. 195 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: I would love to know if his daughter is having 196 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: any different thoughts about this. Now, Nate back to you 197 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: East Idaho News dot Com. Nate eaton what was the 198 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: general mood before the remains were recovered. Did people think 199 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: that the children were being hidden and that we would 200 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: find them alive and well, or was there a general 201 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: thought that we were looking for remains. I think that 202 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: most people did not believe the children were alive, but 203 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the manner in which they were found, in the manner 204 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: in which they were killed or died, it is just heartbreaking. 205 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Here you have Chad day Bell walking out the back 206 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: door of his house every day, and yards away there 207 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: are children buried underneath the dirt. I don't know how 208 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: any parent can function knowing that we ran into them 209 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: in Hawaii in January and going back and watching that 210 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: interview now, to me is chilly because I said to them, 211 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: where are your children? Did you do something to your children? 212 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: And they've got a you know, they seem to not 213 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: have a care in the world. As we're walking knowing 214 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: that they're buried in his backyard, and they know this 215 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: while they're on the island of Kauai. It just is 216 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: is so disturbing. I was at outside the house all 217 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: day yesterday and people were just driving by to look, 218 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: and several people stopped and just broke down sobbing. One 219 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: woman had one of Chad day Bell's book and she said, 220 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: I came to burn it, but she didn't want to 221 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: do it. There She's just like, I want to get 222 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: rid of this book. There's flowers, you know, taped to 223 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: a fence. There's teddy bears, there's signs, there's been vigils, 224 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: there's one tonight, there's memorials. So not a lot of 225 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: people in our community knew these kids. They moved here fast, 226 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: then they disappeared fast. They didn't have friends, they didn't 227 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: have associates, they didn't go to the local church, nothing 228 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: like that. But the community has come to embrace and 229 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: love these kids, and I think it's just such a 230 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: sorrowful way in which they are found. On the other hand, 231 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: it's nice to know that they have been found that 232 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: in five ten years, we're not saying, I wonder whatever 233 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: happened to those kids, that there is some sort of closure. 234 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: The sheriff described it as a wonderfully sad day. It's 235 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: wonderful that there's some bit of resolution. It's very sad 236 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: in the way that it was resolved. We know. The 237 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: one thing that continues to play in my head over 238 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: and over is that they've got Chad day Bell in jail, 239 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: million dollars bond and not accused of murder. Here he's 240 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: not accused of killing the children at this point, and 241 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: as Joe Scott Morgan has pointed out on the program 242 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: that in reality, oftentimes the charge of abuse of a 243 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: corpse is oftentimes in many states a misdemeanor. But the 244 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: prosecutor said Rob Wood said that it was so egregious 245 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: that if the facts come out about what happened to 246 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: these children, at least one of them, in particular that 247 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: it would give Chad Daybell the incentive to flee. That's 248 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: the part I can't quite get over. I think he 249 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: was concerning to him that Chad could take off. I 250 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: don't know where he'd go. He does have family down 251 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: in Utah and a neighboring state, and I think that 252 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: they just want to be sure that Chad does not leave. 253 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: The other question people have raised is could Chad potentially 254 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: take his life now knowing that the walls are closing 255 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: in that he is now going to have to face 256 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: some realities when in the past it seems as if 257 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: they've been living on their own planets in a way. 258 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: And we know that his religious beliefs speak to that 259 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: that he believes he's a god, that Laurie was a goddess, 260 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: that they are to lead one hundred and forty four 261 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: thousand and prepare them for the second coming of Christ. 262 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: The world will end in a month, on July twenty second, 263 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: and so one would think that maybe he thinks, well, 264 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: we'll just wait it out and things will end, and 265 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: then when that doesn't happen, he'll have a new reality 266 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: to face. So I think that they just want to 267 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: be sure that he stays behind bars until he can 268 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: go before the judge and go before the jury and 269 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: possibly you face the charges. The one question in all 270 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: of this that we still don't have any answer to 271 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: is his wife's death, Tammy. We are still awaiting those 272 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: autopsy results. I imagine that will be coming here in 273 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the next few weeks. That's the one piece of this 274 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: puzzle that still is open. And anyway, I think that 275 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: that will be interesting and he could face additional charges 276 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: for that as well. And then you've got the cases 277 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: in Arizona concerning Charles's shooting. In Alex's death, they did 278 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: find that Alex died of a blood clot and his lung, 279 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: but police were quick to note that their investigation into 280 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: that death is not over, so this case is far 281 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: from over, despite the big break that came this week. 282 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Just amazing. Thank you, Nate. That's Nate Eaten with East 283 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Idaho News dot Com. Also special thanks to Ellen Killerin 284 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: from Crime Online dot Com. I'm Dave Mack, thanks for 285 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: joining us.