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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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Speaker 1: Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And today we're looking

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Speaker 1: at a movie that, uh, well, I think with the

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Speaker 1: idea of it is that somebody said, what if we

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Speaker 1: made a film adaptation of Orpheus and Euridice, except in

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Speaker 1: the sort of early nineties highway horror style of a

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Speaker 1: movie you might expect to see to come on at

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Speaker 1: like one am on T and T after the credits

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Speaker 1: roll from a previous showing of Psycho three. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the film Highway to Hell, which I'm

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Speaker 1: positive that I watched on television back in the early

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Speaker 1: nineties at some point early to mid nineties, I guess, uh,

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Speaker 1: but I was. I was trying to just trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what I wonder where I saw it, And

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Speaker 1: for a little bit there I was like eighty percent

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Speaker 1: positive that I must have seen it on USA up

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Speaker 1: all night back in the day. Um. This this ran

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Speaker 1: from on the USA network from about I don't know

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Speaker 1: if if that would have you would if you would

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Speaker 1: have been in the position to to watch this. Joe, Oh,

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Speaker 1: uh well, I I don't remember ever seeing this movie

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Speaker 1: on TV, but it has exactly that fragrance that USA

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Speaker 1: Up All Night fragrance. Yeah, USA Up All Night was

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Speaker 1: basically like it's late at night on cable. Let's show

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Speaker 1: some let's show some B films. Let's let's show some

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Speaker 1: cult films. And uh, just to spice it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you had a host there, Uh Gilbert Godfrey,

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Speaker 1: the stand up comedian who will come back to in

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Speaker 1: soul host I think when they would do it on Saturdays,

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Speaker 1: and then they added a second night. I guess it

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Speaker 1: was so successful they started doing it on Friday nights

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Speaker 1: as well. It was this um person by the name

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Speaker 1: of Caroline Schlitt, but then she was replaced by on

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Speaker 1: To Sheer, and Rhonda Shear was the long time Friday

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Speaker 1: night host. Um, who is this? You know, this this

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Speaker 1: charismatic blonde, uh, comedic performer. And so they would host

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Speaker 1: these with these you know, cheesy bits of of of

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Speaker 1: early nineties comedy and introduced these strange films. And I

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Speaker 1: was thinking back on it, and you know, I'm very

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Speaker 1: quick to to reference Mystery Science Theater three thousand is

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Speaker 1: a is a way that I, you know, early on,

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Speaker 1: got into many of these weird and you know, arguably

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Speaker 1: bad films and B films and whatnot. And then another

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Speaker 1: big influence was was was Monster Vision on T and T.

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Speaker 1: But I often forget to give USA Up All Night

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Speaker 1: any credit. I think USA Up All Night maybe where

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Speaker 1: I first saw Friday thirte part eight Jason takes man Haaf,

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Speaker 1: the one that takes place mostly on a boat. Yeah. Um.

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Speaker 1: I was actually just looking at some lists of films

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Speaker 1: that were featured on USA Up All Night over the years,

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Speaker 1: and also a spreadsheet that I think fans put together,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of Friday to thirteenths on there,

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Speaker 1: a lot of really like well known B films. Like,

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Speaker 1: thinking back on it, I there's a part of me

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Speaker 1: host segments to that it felt a little scandalous to

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Speaker 1: be watching it as a child, like I should not

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Speaker 1: be up watching. Yeah yeah, but but in many cases

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Speaker 1: the other of these lists, I'm like, oh yeah, these

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Speaker 1: are all great genre films, and they would have been

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Speaker 1: edited for television obviously, how else will the children learn

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Speaker 1: can find right now that Highway to Hell ever aired

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Speaker 1: But I stand by what you said. This is the

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Speaker 1: this this film should have aired on USA Up all

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Speaker 1: Night because it has all of that same energy. Rob,

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Speaker 1: is it fair to ask if you have sort of

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Speaker 1: So it puts you know, Grandpa Unster is there to

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Speaker 1: introduced to the film yet? I don't recall, well, we

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Speaker 1: said the title it is film Highway to Hell, which

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Speaker 1: does not feature the A C D C song, which

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Speaker 1: for which it was clearly named. I think some trailers

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Speaker 1: anyone else who's who's seen this film, what what exactly

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Speaker 1: There was quite a bit of of Mad Max kind

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Speaker 1: a very uh kind, wise and benign figure in this movie,

427
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Speaker 1: who who arms the hero with the supernatural tools he

428
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Speaker 1: will need in order to defeat the great evil. Alright, Uh.

429
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Speaker 1: The next actor of note in this Patrick Bergen uh

430
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: plays this character that we encounter in Hell. Uh is

431
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Speaker 1: introduced by the name of Beazel and turns out to

432
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Speaker 1: be this kind of satanic mechanic. Um. You know, I

433
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: guess what is a homage to the Rocky rd Picture Show.

434
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Speaker 1: I assume if the trailer spoils everything for you. It's

435
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: okay if we go ahead and spoil everything for you,

436
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: the big twist and reveals and so forth. Um yeah,

437
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and say, yeah, this is the point

438
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Speaker 1: of no return if you want to go into this

439
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: spoiler free ended all hope of surprise. He who enter here.

440
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, as you might guess from the name, Beazel,

441
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: who appears at first as a helpful, friendly figure in Hell,

442
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Speaker 1: turns out to be b El's a Bub Satan himself

443
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Speaker 1: the Bael's Abub, but I want to be clear, is

444
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Speaker 1: not always represented as identical to Satan. Sometimes he's just

445
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Speaker 1: one of the demons of Hell. But in in some

446
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: Christian traditions, Beel's Abub and Satan are the same, and

447
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: here that they take that tech. Uh. Though I thought

448
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: it was very funny when we first meet him, I get,

449
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how surprising it is supposed to be

450
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: when you ultimately find out that he has Beel's abub

451
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Speaker 1: because his name is Beazel. They're doing a very Edwood

452
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Acula thing like that, but at least

453
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Speaker 1: the characters act surprised. Um. I have to point out

454
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Speaker 1: that when we first encounter Patrick Berg and he also

455
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: has a very nice mustache. Um, which I'm kind of

456
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Speaker 1: taking it on myself for this to be maybe a

457
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Speaker 1: theme for this month's Weird House Cinema, since we're participating

458
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Speaker 1: in November that we need films with strong, um encouraging mustaches. Uh.

459
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: In the picture, well, cheers der satanic mustache. Later on

460
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: he's clean shaven, and then later on beyond that he's

461
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Speaker 1: like in full demon mode with horns and stuff. His

462
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: accent also changes a little bit depending on what mode

463
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Speaker 1: he's in. Yes, sometimes he sounds almost Australian. Did you

464
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: get that? Yeah? Well, like so, just to back up

465
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Speaker 1: Patrick Berg and if you're not familiar with him, Irish

466
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Speaker 1: actor m who was especially hot in the nineteen nineties,

467
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Speaker 1: appearing in such films as Sleeping with the Enemy, Patriot Games,

468
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Speaker 1: Robin Hood and Love Crimes. He also played Captain Sir

469
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Speaker 1: Richard Francis Burton in Mountains of the Moon in nineteen ninety,

470
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Speaker 1: which I haven't seen in a very long time, but

471
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Speaker 1: I remember as being great. I don't know how it

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Speaker 1: holds up. That was one that also started uh Ian

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Speaker 1: Glenn as John Speak also featured Richard E. Grant, Fiona

474
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Speaker 1: Shaw and Peter Vaughan. Um oh, and he also played

475
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Speaker 1: a uh Bergen also played Dr Frankenstein in the TV

476
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Speaker 1: adaptation that I that I fondly look back on. I

477
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Speaker 1: saw he was also in lawnmower Man to Beyond Cyberspace. Yep,

478
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Speaker 1: um it's I think that one was also Job's War.

479
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: I think it has different titles. Uh oh, and he

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Speaker 1: in Bergen also played Dracula in a two thousand two

481
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Speaker 1: TV series, so he's he's gotten a little bit of

482
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Speaker 1: the Dracul, a little bit of the Frankenstein. He's basically

483
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: a horror icon. But anyway, yes, no, before you move on,

484
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Speaker 1: I'm hung up on this. What was it lawnmower Man Too,

485
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: Beyond Cyberspace, Job's War. I think it has different subtitles

486
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Speaker 1: depending on where you're encountering it, so you weren't going

487
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: to get both. Yeah. I feel like we've discussed this before.

488
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on Mic or off Mike.

489
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: But we'll just have to cover lawnmower Man Too at

490
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: some point and just put all of this to rest. Okay,

491
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: it's got a good cast, it's got people are liking it,

492
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: and it's based a Stephen King's story. So okay, yeah,

493
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: about as much as this movie is based on Orpheus

494
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: and euridacy. Yeah. Anyway, back to his accent, yes, so

495
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Bergen is Irish, and I feel like early on

496
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: his character is more Irish, but by the end of it,

497
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what accent he's using, and I'm not

498
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: sure how much of the demon um special effects makeup

499
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: is changing the way he talks, you know. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: Petrick Bergan is a He's a fun screen presence throughout.

501
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: Would this be our second movie within a month that's

502
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Speaker 1: got an Irish big bad You got Dan O Harley

503
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: he and Halloween three? Oh yeah, I guess so. Alright,

504
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: another major villain in this piece as a character we'll

505
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: we'll describe in more detail in a bit, but hell

506
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Speaker 1: cop hey k a Sergeant Bedlam is plays that are

507
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: are are big physical threat of a character of a

508
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: villain played by C. J. Graham, who didn't do a

509
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: lot else besides of this, but he did play Jason

510
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Vorhees in Friday the Thirteenth, Part six Jason Lives. Is

511
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: that one of the good ones? Uh? As we discussed

512
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: last time, I don't know if there are any good

513
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: ones but that one certainly enjoyable. That's the first one

514
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: that just commits to Yeah, Jason is undead. He's back

515
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: from the grave. Something I appreciate. Instead of having to

516
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: go the Halloween route and always explain how he didn't

517
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: die when you thought he did last time, instead they said, yeah,

518
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: he died. He's just now Now this is a supernatural series.

519
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't before now it is, so what I think

520
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: that's ultimately admirable to say, we got to shake it

521
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: up a little bit. We're not ready to go to space,

522
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: but we'll do this. Yeah, precisely. So Part six is

523
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Uh, it's the first one where

524
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: he's undead. This is the undead Jason, and I gotta say, hell, cop,

525
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: he's a lot like Jason. He is. He doesn't speak,

526
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: he's just very impassive and violently efficient. There's very little

527
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: emotion in his performance. Yeah, and and ultimately I think

528
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons this character really stands out. Uh,

529
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: and is I think one of the real highlights of

530
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: the film. Alright, but other characters, other humans involved. We

531
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: have this this character Royce, who's like a biker in

532
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Hell who also has a sword, and he's played by

533
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Speaker 1: Adam Stork born nine two. Can you explain this character

534
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: to me? I don't think I missed anything, but I didn't.

535
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: I felt like this character was supposed to mean something

536
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: that I never understood. Yeah, Like, I don't know if

537
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: there were key scenes that had to be cut, but

538
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: he was probably the least interesting thing in the film

539
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: for me. Whenever he was on the screen, I was

540
00:29:50,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: I was wondering, where's help other characters should be asking? Yeah,

541
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: to better explain what I'm saying. I feel like this

542
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: is a character that would almost make sense if he

543
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to be tapping into like a type or

544
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: another character known from outside the movie, the way that

545
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: Gilbert Gottfried shows up as Hitler and so like that

546
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: part is supposed to be funny because the audience is

547
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: supposed to already bring knowledge of who Hitler is and

548
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: why he would be in Hell. But this character, it

549
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: feels like that, except we just to have no idea

550
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: who this guy is. Yeah, exactly. It would have made

551
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: a lot more sense and would require less wondering if

552
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: they we were like, oh, yeah, well he matches up

553
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: with this historical or mythic figure and therefore, uh, you know,

554
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: we we don't. We don't have to think too long

555
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and hard about what he's supposed to be in this film.

556
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: But as far as Adam Store goes, he appeared in

557
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: Mystic Pizza, Death Becomes Her and did a lot of

558
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: TV work. He was also in the TV adaptation the

559
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: mini series of Phantom of the Opera. Uh, this is

560
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: what I've actually seen. I've kind of remember enjoying this

561
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: as a kid. It's started Charles Dance as the Phantom,

562
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: and it also featured Ian Richardson and Burt Lancaster. Oh,

563
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: how did I never know about this? Charles Dances the Phantom.

564
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Yeah, I remember it was.

565
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I think it was my first introduction to Phantom of

566
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Speaker 1: the Opera actually, and uh and so so I don't

567
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: know what if how that ways that it might have

568
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: been terrible, but it was like the first real Fantom

569
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: story I watched. Oh. In quick note in the film

570
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: though here in Highway to Hell, Royce has a gang

571
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: of bikers with him in Hell, and they are apparently

572
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: played entirely by the alt rock band from the late

573
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: eighties Doss Psycho Rangers. I don't know this band. Yeah.

574
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I think they only put out like a couple of things,

575
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: so they weren't They weren't huge. But they are credited

576
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: in the credits for the film as Doss Psycho Rangers.

577
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Yeah, alright. Our our next actor

578
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: of note in this Pamela Gidley plays Clara. This is

579
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: the old man Sam's lost love. Uh, this will make

580
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: sense when we described the plot a little bit, but

581
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: she lived. She played the title character in the the

582
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic sci fi I guess that one is also

583
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: kind of a sci fi comedy deal. Cherry two thousand. Um, though,

584
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: if you're only familiar with the with the poster our

585
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: Cherry two thousand is not the main character in Cherry

586
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: two thousand. It's a it's a female bounty hunter character

587
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: who's helping to retrieve Cherry tooth thousand. Melanie Griffith, Yeah,

588
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: Melanie Griffith plays you have Melanie Griffith is lead. Melanie

589
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Griffith is not Cherry two thousand. But Gidley was also

590
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: in Twin Peaks fire Walk with Me. She played Teresa Banks. Now,

591
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: as we mentioned earlier, we we do have some Ben

592
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Stiller in this film, but it goes beyond that, we don't.

593
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: We have the whole Stiller family in a Highway to Hell,

594
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: actually sometimes in multiple roles, right because Ben Stiller, I think,

595
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: plays both the cook at Pluto's cafe the hell Diner,

596
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: and he plays the Till of the Hun. Later in

597
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: a scene where you're you're you're watching like evil historical

598
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: figures sitting around a table. Oh yes, because okay, so

599
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: at the in the scene where it's the historical figures, Yeah,

600
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: it's Ben Stiller is a Till of the Hun. Ben

601
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: Stiller's sister Amy Stiller playing Cleopatra, and Gilbert Godfrey playing

602
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler. Um, they're playing cards or something. And uh,

603
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: and I should add that I think, Um, Gilbert Godfrey

604
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: is the only one even halfway trying to do an

605
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: accent and still very much Gilbert Godfrey doing a German accent,

606
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: and I think his choice is to portray Hitler in

607
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: Hell as insufferably whiny. Yeah. Yeah, it's excellent casting, excellent casting.

608
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not just just Amy Stiller and Ben Stiller. Uh,

609
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: but it's also Jerry Stiller, who plays a desk cop

610
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: and then Jerry Steeler's wife and Amira plays media who

611
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: is a waitress at Pluto's the hell Diner um. And

612
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: of course this is fun because they were a stand

613
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: up comedy act back in the day. They were a

614
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: husband and wife stand up team. Yeah, she she's quite

615
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: funny in the diner scene. And Jerry Stiller he, I

616
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: didn't fully understand what was going on between him and

617
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: the hell Cop, but eventually the hell Cop like shoots

618
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: him with a with a dimensional portal gun. Yeah. Yeah,

619
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: but he's like messing with hell Cop. He's like asking

620
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: for it. He's being like really annoying towards him, and

621
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the relationship between the

622
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: two is supposed to be. He's like, that's what I

623
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: do in Hell I I prank hell Cop. But he's

624
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: the only one who's not afraid of hell Cop, which

625
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: which seems fitting. That's a good point. Yes, he's the

626
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: only one in the movie who doesn't fear him other

627
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: than Satan himself, I guess yea, and Satan himself respects him,

628
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: like he knows this is a good Hinchman. But yeah,

629
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Stiller is just not buying it at all. So

630
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: it's such an always I have no I still do

631
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: this day. I have no idea why this is the case,

632
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: why the entire Stiller family is in this strange film,

633
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: but is one of its charms. Oh, but I guess

634
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: this comes back to that thing I read. I think

635
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I already said this, but I read on at least

636
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: the IMDb trivia page. If this is correct, it claims

637
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: that been Stiller ad libbed all of his dialogue in

638
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: the film. And I don't know if that's true, if

639
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: it could be all of it, but certain certain parts

640
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: to do feel rather improvisational. Oh yeah, I mean he's

641
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: he's basically a background cameo that was allowed to swell

642
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: and take on life like nothing he's saying is important

643
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: to the plot. Uh, so I buy that. I bet

644
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: he did improve all of these lines about frying eggs

645
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: on the sidewalk in hell. Now another actor of note

646
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: in this uh, Kevin Peter Hall, who lived nine appears

647
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: later on in the film playing the character of Sharon

648
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: the You know this is the character from Greek mythology,

649
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: but also, uh, you know a character pops up in

650
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Dante's Inferno Ferno. This is the uh, this is the

651
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: boatman who brings you across the river into the Underworld. Yeah,

652
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: and he's portrayed here as having his eyelids sown shut. Yeah.

653
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: And and this is neat for Kevin Peter Hall because

654
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: you have all seen Kevin Peter Hall movies, but he's

655
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: generally covered in a lot more makeup. He played the

656
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: Predator in both Predator one and two. He also played

657
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: the alien in Without Warning, the very first movie we

658
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: watched for Weird House Cinema. That's right. Yeah, he played

659
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: Mutant Bear in nine Prophecy. That was his first film.

660
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: And he played Harry and Harry and the Henderson's as

661
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: well as Big John in Big Top Pee Weee. So yeah,

662
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: that is interesting. Somebody who's been in a lot of

663
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: well known movies and is in a way himself well

664
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: known for like great physical performances, but people wouldn't recognize

665
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: his face because he's always behind a bunch of makeup. Yeah.

666
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: So he he uh sadly died due to age related pneumonia.

667
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: He had contracted HIV from a blood transfusion apparently, and

668
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: this was his final film role. Now here's another interesting

669
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: really this is a cameo as well, but also this

670
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: is very telling of the vibe of this film. Leada

671
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Ford shows up playing a hitchhiker. She was the lead

672
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: guitarist for the all female rock band The Runaways in

673
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: the late nineteen seventies before going solo as a glam

674
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: metal act. In the late nineteen eighties. She sang a

675
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: duet with the Ozzy Osbourne on the single Closed My

676
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Eyes Forever. So she's a denizen of Hell in this

677
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: movie who has a freaky early encounter with Chadlow when

678
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: he shows up. Yeah, that leads right into um, this

679
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: strange attack by a one of Hell's ice cream salesman.

680
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: It's like, scream Scoop and he's like, Okay, I'll ate you, Yeah,

681
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: and our character has to blast him with a holy shotgun. Um.

682
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: I will mention the cinematographer on this one because it's

683
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: this is kind of interesting. Robin Vigion Uh born nine

684
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: uh this. This guy was a cinematographer on such films

685
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: as Hell Razor, Hell Razor to the Fly, to The

686
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Never Ending Story Well three Um. He He also worked

687
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: in the camera and electrical department on Raiders of the

688
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Lost Arc, Never Say Never Again, and the World Is

689
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: Not Enough. And he was second unit director on Event Horizon.

690
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: So I especially thought the Hell Raiser Hell Razor two

691
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: thing was interesting given that we have a character and

692
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: here was some strong cinebide energy. Yes, that's right, And

693
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: speaking of that character, I would say one of the

694
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: things I found most impressive about this movie is the

695
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: design of hell Cop. Hell Cop looks really interesting. One

696
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: of the main things about him is that he's got

697
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: writing carved all over his face and apparently that was

698
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: a touch coming from the UH. The person behind special

699
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: makeup effects in this movie Steve Johnson. Right. Yes, Steve

700
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: Johnson born nineteen sixty UH. He has special effects, makeup,

701
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: design and creation credit on this He is has a

702
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: very long history UM in the practical special effects and

703
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: makeup special effects. For instance, he made Slimer for Ghostbusters.

704
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: He worked on such films as The Howling with with

705
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Rob Bolton. He worked on American Werewolf in London with

706
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Rick Baker, and he co ran the special makeup effects

707
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: studio at Boss Films that worked on pol Guys, to

708
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: Fright Night and Big Trouble in Little China. His company

709
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: x FX worked on the Abyss species as well as

710
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: four seasons of the Outer Limits series. I was excited

711
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: to UH to see that so he's worked on loads

712
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: of films with with interesting practical special effects makeup. He

713
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: worked on Blade too, for example. So uh so, yeah,

714
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: this is a film knowing that Steve Johnson is heavily involved.

715
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: You know that that if nothing else, uh, the monsters

716
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: and the makeup and the gore, it's all gonna look

717
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: really good. And it sure does. Yeah. I know that

718
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: last one is going to be special to you because Rob,

719
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: I know you're a Blade to man. Yeah. Yeah, alright.

720
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Let's talk briefly about the music here. So the music

721
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: is mostly credited Two Hidden Faces, which I believe a

722
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: trio of of individuals. Yeah, this is a musical group.

723
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: I looked them up and they have four film composition

724
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: credits on IMDb. Several. I don't think I've ever seen

725
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: any of these movies, but I just wanted to mention

726
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: several because they were funny. One from a movie called

727
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: Nuns on the Run. This is a farce crime comedy

728
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: starring Eric Idol and Robbie Coltrane. So, Sir Robin and Hagrid.

729
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I guess um, I am right about that, right, that's Hagrid. Yeah, um,

730
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I saw this as a child. By the way, really

731
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: so I don't remember anything about it. I've never seen it.

732
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: But these are gang stories who have to run and

733
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: hide from the police and from hit men who are

734
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: simultaneously after them. And the scheme they come up with

735
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: is they're going to pretend to be nuns and hide

736
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: in a convent. Is this also the plot of Sister Act,

737
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: except here it's Eric Idol and Robbie Coltrane. Um, I'm

738
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: not sure. I feel like there was another film that

739
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: had a very similar plot that came out around the

740
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: same time, but possibly Sister Act. I don't think I've

741
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: seen I don't think I've actually saw Sister Act. I'm

742
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 1: just familiar with the musical numbers from it. Just looked

743
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: it up. Yep, it sure is so. In Sister Act,

744
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: Whoopi Goldberg plays a lounge singer who is forced to

745
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: join a convent after being placed in a witness protection program. So, yes,

746
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: she is hiding out in a convent pretending to be

747
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: a nun to in order to hide from hitman who

748
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: want to kill her. Oh. I had to look it

749
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: up because yes, I think it's also basically the plot

750
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: of the nine film We're No Angels, which is a

751
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: Neil Jordan's film. Uh. And in this one, what I think,

752
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: it's Sean Penn and Robert de Niro who pretend to

753
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: be priests. This time it's not nuns but priests hiding

754
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: from from somebody, wait, priests or monks, priests in this case,

755
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: definitely priest. But this seems to very much be a

756
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: thing wise guy or gals um hiding within the church

757
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: pretending to be monks or priests or nuns or something.

758
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: Right right, Okay, So you got Nuns on the run

759
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: for Hidden Faces, and then you got Highway to Hell.

760
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: And then the other two movies that they composed for

761
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: are called Under the Hula Moon and the Players Club.

762
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Players Club is movie written and directed by Ice Cube. Uh.

763
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: And then Under the Hula Moon. I was looking at

764
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: the IMDb synopsis. This is a movie in which Stephen

765
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: Baldwin plays a man named Buzzard who lives in Arizona

766
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: and he thinks he's going to get rich by inventing

767
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: a type of new sunscreen called camo, which looks like

768
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: camouflage when you put it on. M Okay, that I

769
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: can see that that plot going in in totally different directions.

770
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: It could be serious, It could be comedy. Well, I

771
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: think I think it eventually turns into a kidnapping movie.

772
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: So I think, Uh, Chris Penn plays like an evil

773
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: guy in that movie who kidnaps Steven Baldwin's wife, Okay,

774
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: and he's got to go rescue her. Now. When I

775
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: was looking looking at information about this film Highway to Hell, um,

776
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: I of course looked it up in Michael Weldon's The

777
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: Psychotronic Video Guide, and in it he he specifically mentions

778
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: that this movie makes use of Tangerine Dream music from

779
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: the film Miracle Mile, which is the apocalyptic thriller starring

780
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. And at first I was, I was, I

781
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: didn't doubt Michael Weldon because Michael Weldon, aside from being

782
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: an expert on all of these these films, um, he

783
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: also generally had a really he has a really great

784
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: head for the music scene. So if he mentions a

785
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: particular release or a particular artist being involved in the film,

786
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's invariably correct. So I didn't doubt him.

787
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: But I was looking around and like IMDb does not

788
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: list Tangerine Dream on the credits. Uh that they have there? Uh,

789
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: they don't don't have anything about Tangerine Dream in the

790
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: trivia section. Uh. You know, there's nothing on the wicki um,

791
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: but if you if you watch the full credits for

792
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: the film, they do say, um, special thanks to Tangerine

793
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Dream for additional music. So some of the time, I

794
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: think when we're when we're watching Highway to Hell and

795
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: the music is particularly good, uh, we're actually listening to

796
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Tangerine Dream. Huh. So do you think subconsciously that's why

797
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: you picked this movie? Uh? Um, I mean probably probably not,

798
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: But it's kind of a neat idea that I kind

799
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: of like accidentally tripped into a Tangerine Dream score. Um,

800
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: because there are there are Tangerine Dreams scored films that

801
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I've kind of been eyeballing, Like we could talk about that,

802
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: and that'd be an excuse to really discuss Tangerine Dream. Um.

803
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: So uh, and we'll probably come back to that because

804
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: ultimately this is not the place to really get into

805
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: Tangerine Dream because I'm not even I'm not even exactly

806
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: sure which bits of music that we're hearing our Tangerine

807
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Dream bits. I just suspect that certain ones, the ones

808
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: that were more um uh, you know, it gave you

809
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: more of this, uh, this sort of spacey, otherworldly fee

810
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: that those must have been a tangerine dream moments. But

811
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with Miracle Mile or their work on

812
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Miracle Mile, so I can't really identify it. All right, Well,

813
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: are you ready to get into the plot. Let's discuss

814
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: the plot. Okay, So I don't think this is one

815
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: of the ones where we're gonna go scene by scene

816
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: and do the whole thing, but instead maybe mentioned things

817
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: that stood out to us as we as we go along.

818
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: So there was a strange choice. I thought to begin

819
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: the live action portion of the movie. Now there's a

820
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: there's a credit sequence that showing you this like animated

821
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: postcard that says greetings from Highway to Hell um. But

822
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: then after that it begins the live action portion of

823
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: the movie with video game footage. You're watching a cop

824
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: play an arcade cabinet game called Highway to Hell. And

825
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: I know they did not create an original video game

826
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: for this movie. So I was trying to figure out

827
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: what actual aim this is. Nothing on the web tells me.

828
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: I thought I could match something, you know, just match

829
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: the screen to something. It looks kind of like out

830
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: Run or Final Lap, but the hut isn't quite right,

831
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know what game this is, but it

832
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: ties into something that's mentioned in the text epilogue. So

833
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: after the last scene fades out and you get that,

834
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: you know that text crawl on the screen telling you

835
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: what all the characters. It says that the Chad Lowe's

836
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: character Charlie goes on to become rich and famous by

837
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: developing a bunch of very successful video games that are

838
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: all Hell themed. I guess it's imagining that he made

839
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Doom or something, though otherwise video games are not a

840
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: theme in this movie. It's only the opening shot and

841
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: and then that epilogue. Yeah, yeah, the epilogue that was

842
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: totally unasked for. Like you don't you don't reach the

843
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: end of this movie and you're like, I wonder what

844
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: happened to them? It doesn't matter, No, everybody wants to know.

845
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: It's like the last episode of The Wonder Years. You

846
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: want to know what everybody became when they grew up,

847
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: who got married to who, Like Chad and Rage escaped

848
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: Hell like that that's all you need to know. Like

849
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: that's enough. Nothing else they're gonna do is going to

850
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: top that. Um, So you know, why do we need

851
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: this epilog? I totally disagree. I think we needed to

852
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: know that Chad became a video game lord. You know,

853
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: he probably had to testify before Congress at some point

854
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: when they were holding a hearing on violence in video

855
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: games and hell imagery. And then Rachel what does it

856
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: say she opened a bunch of successful health themed Pizzaiha's Yes,

857
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: that's right, she did. I want that information. Oh and

858
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: it says that their dog Ben went on to star

859
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: in dog food commercials. Yeah. Yeah, they felt it was

860
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: important for us to know this as well. The narrative

861
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: would not be complete without the dog food commercials. Yeah.

862
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: And they're also like, and Satan still satan ng that's

863
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: all he doesn't actually, it's not actually doing anything differently.

864
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: He's just he's still doing the same. But okay, opening,

865
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: So that we've covered beginning to end there, right, that's

866
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: right now, there are a few things we should mention

867
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: in between. So so opening scene, you got Chad Low

868
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: and Christy Swanson. Uh you know that there again? Um,

869
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: what are their names? Yeah, Charlie and Rachel. They are

870
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: they're eating basket burgers at some diner in the scrub

871
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: land I think it's supposed to be outside of Las

872
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Vegas and uh, and Charlie is nervous because the situation

873
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: is I think they're like teenagers who ran off together

874
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: to get married in Las Vegas. So they're trying to

875
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Elope and they think that their parents found out that

876
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: they ran off to get married and they're trying to

877
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: and that they're going to send the cops after them

878
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: to bring them home. Yeah, so they're they're very concerned

879
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: that this cop that was playing the video game is

880
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: coming for them and it's gonna and is in fact

881
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: following them when they drive away from this diner, right,

882
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: So they bolt from the diner with with their dog, Ben,

883
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: who was very cute dog. I love to have the dog.

884
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: I had to at the beginning. I had to be

885
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: like okay, Google and going too does the dog die?

886
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: Dot com? And looking at up No, the dog does

887
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: not die, but this doe, I I don't know because

888
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm not around your dog all the time, but I

889
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: felt like this dog looks like your dog. Not immensely,

890
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: but yes, sort of. Plus, the main character's name is Charlie.

891
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: Charlie is the name of your dogs. I guess that'll true.

892
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: Added to it. Yeah, But so their dogs hanging out

893
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: and they're dinged up forward Pinto and I love the Pinto,

894
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: by the way. So they they're driving around in a

895
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Pinto with a jiggling triangular light up roof sign for

896
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: a pizzeria called Nunzio's Pizzeria. So I guess we're to

897
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: understand that that Chad Low is a pizza delivery boy.

898
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: And when he takes his burger back to the car,

899
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: he puts the burger in his mouth and then lets

900
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: the dog eat it out of his mouth, which okay,

901
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: but it's pretty great because he established this is I mean,

902
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: this is really well put together, because we're very just

903
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: a few minutes into the film, and you already know

904
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: pretty much what these characters are, what they're doing, what

905
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: their dynamics are, like, they're super gonna love he loves

906
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: his dog too, but he's he's riding around in this

907
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: pizza delivery car clearly doesn't have like two nickels rubbed together,

908
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: so so you can and and they're they're just they're

909
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: very concerned that this cop is going to be after them,

910
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: and and really if they ran, if they think the

911
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: cops are after them, they're they're totally in the wrong

912
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: vehicle to try and sneak away and hide themselves and

913
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: none the great American desert, right. You would think if

914
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: they were going for subtlety, he would take the pizzeria

915
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: logo off the top of the car. One thing I

916
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: got to say about the diner. I love when restaurants

917
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: used to have big signs for Vienna Sausages on the walls.

918
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: This diner there at the beginning does yeah, was was

919
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: that ever a selling point for restaurants? I don't know,

920
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: but there was a restaurant here in Atlanta I went

921
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: to one time that had one of those big vintage

922
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: vintages and the sausages posters. Yeah, some people would buy

923
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: them in a store, I guess, being a sausage and

924
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: we're talking about the same thing like this sort of

925
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: like reconstituted. Yeah. I don't know, it's quality, I guess um.

926
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: But so yeah, Anyway, they hit the highway and when

927
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: they're out on the freeway that they noticed the motorcycle

928
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: cop who was playing the arcade game and the diner

929
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: is still behind them, and uh, and Chad Lowe is paranoid.

930
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: So Charlie thinks they're being followed. Rachel doesn't, but Chad's afraid,

931
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: so he gets off on a dark exit called Black

932
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: Canyon Road to see if the cople do the same,

933
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: and the cop does not get off after them, so

934
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: they're they're just you know, off there in the dark,

935
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, I actually, we're okay. But then Charlie

936
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: has a great idea. He's like, I know, let's take

937
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: this dark, unfamiliar back road to Vegas instead of the

938
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: freeway absolutely and through the desert in a questionable automobile

939
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: like you do. And I was wondering, are there back

940
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: roads to Vegas? I'm not really familiar with Las Vegas,

941
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: so I looked on Google Maps and maybe sort of.

942
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a bunch of different freeways and

943
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: highways going in. There's one sort of back ish looking

944
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: road that I think goes through the Lake Mead recreational area.

945
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's what they had in mind,

946
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: or maybe, uh, maybe the person who wrote this wasn't

947
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: all that familiar with Agacy either. I don't know. Yeah,

948
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: I ultimately it's the horror movie trope of let's let's

949
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: go on the back road, let's let's get off the

950
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: main path, and surely nothing bad will happen to us, right,

951
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: So off they go into the darkness, and they end

952
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: up pulling up at a service station called the Last

953
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: Chance Service Station, and there's an old man hanging out

954
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: there in a rocking chair, and Rob, I don't know

955
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: if if if I'm reaching here, but if you notice

956
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: that the old man's rocking chair has a rear view

957
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: mirror on it, just like a truck would. Is this

958
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: an orpheus and euridicy thing about, like the theme of

959
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: looking back behind you? Because we ultimately find out that

960
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: this old man his his sweetheart was lost in the

961
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: underworld and he never retrieved her. I didn't really put

962
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: it together like that when I rewatched the film, but

963
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: I think you might your right. So anyway, they get

964
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: the tank filled up and and this is the scene

965
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: I was describing earlier. That's actually very funny because the

966
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: old man's cleaning the windows in an ominous manner, and

967
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: the coffee station has these chilling music stings. I'm not

968
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: quite sure why they decided to do that, but I

969
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. Um, And before they leave, the

970
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: old man warns them he's, like, you know, are you

971
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: heading for Vegas? And Charlie says why he asked, and

972
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: he says, well, it's an old road. It needs a

973
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: lot of repair. You'd be a lot safer on the interstate.

974
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: But of course, you know, being kids, they ignore him

975
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: until the car won't start, and so then when when

976
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: they can't get it started, Rachel has to go open

977
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: the hood and fix it. And here we find out

978
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: she knows stuff about cars. She took auto shop in

979
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: high school, so she can repair it. And that will

980
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: come up again later. But the old man seems concerned.

981
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: He offers to let them stay in his extra cabin, uh,

982
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: and they ignore him. So when they're leaving, he says,

983
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: you keep an eye out for two Joshua trees. If

984
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: you get sleepy, don't pull over until you pass the

985
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: second one. So I like that. That's a sort of

986
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: you know that that has a convincing ring to it.

987
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: And plus it's what this this portion of the film too,

988
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: is I found especially well shot because it's shot at night.

989
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: So it's night in the desert, uh, you know, out

990
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Uh. So I feel like

991
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: I was really getting a strong, ominous feeling from all

992
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: of this and granted, you know, some of it is

993
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, familiar tropes, the old man warning you about

994
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: the dangerous to come and the road ahead, and of

995
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: course the kids aren't going to listen to him, but

996
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: it's but it's well presented, right, And so out on

997
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: the road, um, Charlie is monologueing about how much he

998
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: loves her and and he's saying, you know, sweet sappy stuff.

999
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: And then he realizes she's asleep and hasn't been listening

1000
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: to him, and then he tries to talk to his dog,

1001
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: and then also realizes the dog is asleep, which was funny.

1002
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: And then we see ominously a Joshua tree. Uh. And then,

1003
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: of course, as you might imagine, after he passes the

1004
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: Joshua tree, Charlie starts to get very sleepy while he's

1005
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: driving and starts to nod off. Anytime that happens in

1006
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: a movie, I always feel like I get the yeah,

1007
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's the kind of scene that that

1008
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: gets me. And as he's falling asleep, he suddenly swerves

1009
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: while driving and is immediately confronted by a highway patrol

1010
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: car on this this dangerous section of the road. And

1011
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: we said, as we see the officer get out of

1012
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: the car and immediately something is wrong. His boot sizzles

1013
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: on the pavement when he steps out, like a hot

1014
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: iron pressing into meat. And you see him holster his

1015
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: gun and it looks like something out of RoboCop. And

1016
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: then you see his handcuffs, which are not really cuffs,

1017
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: they are actually hands. They're like these rotten zombie hands

1018
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: that are chained together. Oh my god. And the I mean,

1019
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: all of this is is just is perfectly executed to

1020
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: like this is the point of the film where everything

1021
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: is just working perfectly. So like the boot sizzling looks great,

1022
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: the robot RoboCop revolver it it really like weird you

1023
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: out when you see it because you're not expecting that.

1024
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: And then the handcuffs made of actual hands, um, they're

1025
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: they're articulated in a way that really feels lifelike and ghastly.

1026
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: So even if the idea sounds goofy and it is,

1027
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, handcuffs that are hands like, they look ghastly

1028
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: and bizarre, and you know that you're this is not

1029
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: a good place to be and this is not the

1030
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: cop you want pulling you over, right, So he approaches

1031
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: them menacingly. He shines his flashlight in their eyes, and

1032
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: then we get the face reveal on hell cop and

1033
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: he looks ghastly. There is writing covering his face all

1034
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: along his jawline and on his cheek bones, and on

1035
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: his cheeks and his forehead and his lips. Um. It's

1036
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: it looks it looks mad and satanic. And I'm I

1037
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: couldn't quite read what the writing said. I don't know

1038
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: if you caught any words in there. I couldn't. I mean,

1039
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: I see something about eyes, uh, and you know, I

1040
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: can make out a few other little words here and there.

1041
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: According to IMDb, his chin has the letters s J

1042
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: plus l Q, which is us to stand for Steve Johnson,

1043
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: the makeup artist who already mentioned, and his wife at

1044
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: the time, Leanna Quigley, who of course is a Scream

1045
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: Queen icon herself. But looking at this close up, I'm

1046
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble finding those letters. But supposedly they're there.

1047
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: M oh. But beyond that, so he has sunglasses like

1048
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: a lot of scary cops in movies do that. This

1049
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: is actually a I don't know if this is something

1050
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: that's been written about anywhere, but I think this is

1051
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: a recurring trope that you know that uh, scary abusive

1052
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: authority figures in films. You know, dictators or abusive cops

1053
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: or whatever often have these sunglasses that hide their eyes

1054
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: that sort of make them less human or don't allow

1055
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: you to see where they're looking, which adds a kind

1056
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: of panopticon effect, or don't allow you to read their emotions,

1057
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: and and so this cop, it is it plays into that,

1058
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: especially by having him not just wearing totally opaque sunglasses,

1059
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: but the sunglasses are actually riveted to his temples, so

1060
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: they're not like, you know, just resting on his ears. Yeah,

1061
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: hell Coop is wonderful and I feel like the sort

1062
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: of energies converging here. You have kind of a hell

1063
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Raiser cinembi quality to the character. Um also reminds me

1064
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of the zombies from Shock Waves, the

1065
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: Nazi zombies. But then the sunglasses. You're bit about the

1066
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: sunglasses is absolutely correct. I feel I feel like there's

1067
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: a strong homage here to the Man with No Eyes

1068
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: from Cool Hand Luke. Remember the chain gang boss that

1069
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: has those gleaming sunglasses and if you will remember in

1070
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: Cool Hand Luke, uh, the man with no eyes is

1071
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: never actually like defeated, but there is a scene where

1072
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: he gets his sunglasses knocked off, you know, and that's

1073
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: kind of, uh, you know, a slight victory for the

1074
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: characters who've suffered under them. And indeed, in this film

1075
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: we find out much later in the film that the

1076
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: hell Cops weakness it happens to be the sunglasses and

1077
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: if you destroy his sunglasses, you destroy him. Yeah. I

1078
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: thought that was a really nice touch. So so yeah,

1079
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: and in the end that is how Rachel, in fact,

1080
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: it defeats him by by shooting him right in the

1081
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: sunglasses with the with the magic gun that Charlie will

1082
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: be given in a bit. But all of this with

1083
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: Hellcop just even approaching the car, you know, all of

1084
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: these elements are present there. But also you're doing this

1085
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: this thing that always works well in the harm if

1086
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: you're taking a real world frightening and potentially life threatening

1087
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: experience and then you know, which is being pulled over

1088
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: on the highway, and then you're twisting that into this

1089
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: slasher horror direction with a cop that is uh, you know,

1090
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: beyond you know, the dangers of a human cop. They

1091
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: are essentially like a hellish Michael Myers character. Uh, you

1092
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: know it just stalking up to your vehicle. Uh. So,

1093
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: it just exceptionally well done. I feel like I feel

1094
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: like Hellcop could have been his own film. You know. Yes,

1095
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: though I think Hellcop might be less fun in a

1096
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: movie that tried to push him in a more serious

1097
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: horror direction. True, Like, I feel like Hellcop lives very,

1098
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: very comfortably in this sort of comedy vision of Hell

1099
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: that's otherwise populated with all these zany characters. True. Yeah, yeah,

1100
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: it might be hard harder to pull off it, but

1101
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: ultimately I think it's It's one of those where like

1102
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: the makeup alone and the performance, I'll give the performance

1103
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: some credit. Um, it also elevates it, to you, above

1104
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: the comedy to a certain extent. So yeah, I'm not

1105
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: sure it would it would necessarily work outside of the

1106
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: comedy environment, but oh it does feel legitimately creepy in

1107
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: this film. Yeah, I agreed. Oh, a couple more details

1108
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: about him, I forgot to make he his his name

1109
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: tag reads Sergeant Bedlam and he uh, and he's got

1110
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: a badge that is just a pentagram of course. But

1111
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: so anyway, we get this confrontation where hell Coop kidnaps Rachel.

1112
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: He takes her to his car and then he does

1113
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: like evil magic spells on the car that essentially that

1114
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: like eliminate the back door. He like puts her into

1115
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: the car and then the car has no door for

1116
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: her to get out of um and then he and

1117
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: then he drives off through a portal into another dimension.

1118
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: And the patrol car that he's in it's kind of

1119
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: like a spaceship too, Like it's a really souped up

1120
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: feeling vehicle. So that adds this extra kind of like

1121
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: sci fi magic feel to it where you're just left asking,

1122
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: like what is hell cop? Like, it's you know, it's

1123
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. He's he's like he's from Hell. But

1124
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: he also has a RoboCop gun that shoots portals. It's

1125
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: it's it's wonderful. Yeah, it's kind of a combat buggy

1126
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: in a way. His car is Oh and of course

1127
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: the license played on it reads damned. But anyway, so, uh,

1128
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Charlie and Ben the Dog are are left behind after

1129
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: Rachel has been kidnapped, and and he's like, oh no,

1130
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? So he he freaks out.

1131
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: He drives back to the service station and explains things

1132
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: to the old Man, and it turns out, what do

1133
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is a herring problem of people getting

1134
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: disappearing on the highway. Here somewhere between the two Joshua trees,

1135
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: there is just a road that leads straight into Hell

1136
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: and this has happened before. And uh. And then there's

1137
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: there's a really great moment where Charlie asked to use

1138
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: his phone and Richard Farnsworth says, you can't phone Hell. Boy.

1139
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: You can drive there, but you can't phone Hell. Yes,

1140
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: it's such a great line, but that Farnsworth brings it

1141
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: to life. Yeah. And so it turns out that the

1142
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: hell Cops m O is generally that he kidnaps beautiful

1143
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: women off the highway and so uh. The the the

1144
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: old Man tells his story about how his sweetheart Clara

1145
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: was in fact kidnapped by the hell cop ages ago,

1146
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: and then he he starts to reveal the magical, the

1147
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: special items, the supernatural aid that he's going to give

1148
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: to Charlie before he goes on his journey. So he

1149
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: pulls out this special gun. It's kind of a holy boomstick.

1150
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: It is a handheld shot gun with silver clam shells

1151
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: embossed on the stock. Yeah, major doom vibes here with

1152
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: the Holy Demon sling shotgun. Yeah, I thought the same thing.

1153
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: And this was funny because it made me think, what

1154
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: if the premise because the story is that, in fact, Clara,

1155
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: the old Man's sweetheart, she made him this gun, or

1156
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: at least she, I get. I don't know if she

1157
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: made it from scratch, but she at least put all

1158
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: the special decorations on it. And it makes me wonder

1159
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: what if the premise of Doom had been that doom

1160
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: guy's sweetheart made him his shotgun. But anyway, so the

1161
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: old Man gives Charlie the holy shotgun and he gives

1162
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: him a special holy car. What's the deal with the car? Well,

1163
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: the old Man doesn't explain. He just says that there's

1164
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: something special in there that'll that will help you. Something

1165
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: in the car, something special. Is there payoff for that?

1166
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: Because I don't remember payoff for that? Yes, yes, there is.

1167
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: Right in the conclusion, we're they're trying to escape Hell

1168
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: at the end and they're racing the Hell cop and

1169
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: then Rachel discovers the nitro booster and that's the special Okay,

1170
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: got you. I don't know if this old man is

1171
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: into drag racing or something. I'm not sure, but he

1172
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: might have been back in the day. He was in

1173
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: the original The Fast and the Furious, the one from

1174
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: the sixties. You know, this is the thing. They could

1175
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: do a prequel to Highway to Hell, prequel to Hell,

1176
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: and you have, like the Young Sam the original story

1177
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: of of the Encounter with Hell coup. So eventually Charlie

1178
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: does get into Hell. I think he's told that to

1179
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: get there he has to drive back and forth between

1180
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: the two Joshua trees and believe that's the thing, And

1181
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: so he's yelling like I believe, and eventually it works

1182
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: and he goes straight into Hell. And what I thought

1183
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: was interesting is they don't make Hell a really supernatural

1184
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: looking place. It's just the Mojave Desert. Yeah, it's just

1185
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: like an alternate version of the American desert, in which

1186
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: all the typical American desert kind of like you know,

1187
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: Root sixty six kind of stuff. Uh. It just has

1188
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: a Satanic element to it or or you know, sometimes

1189
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: more of a Greek underworld element to it, depending on

1190
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: where they're drawing from. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's just

1191
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: the mundane Mojave desert, but filled with undead people and demons.

1192
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: Like they decided not to spice it up with flames

1193
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: in the sky or anything. And you know, I guess

1194
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: I can get behind that choice. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1195
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: they had they clearly had the desert to work with,

1196
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: which is an evocative setting in and of itself. And

1197
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: and then they ultimately make a lot of really fun

1198
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: and interesting choices in kind of beetlejuicing up the desert.

1199
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: So you know, it ranges from you know, diners that

1200
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: are occupied by zombies too. I loved this because this

1201
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't understand what this means, but you had whole

1202
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: like roadside garbage cleanup cruise, but they were all Andy

1203
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: Warhol and instead of since it's Hell, everything's backwards, I guess,

1204
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: so instead of picking trash up from the side of

1205
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: the road, they're emptying trash onto the side of the road. Yeah.

1206
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 1: I guess that one sort of went over my head.

1207
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a joke about about

1208
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: pop art or I don't know, but but it it

1209
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: feels appropriate for Again, this is the kind of thing

1210
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: you couldn't get away with in a serious Hell movie.

1211
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: If it's serious Hell movie, then you know, I guess

1212
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: you've got to have, you know, something like like Legend,

1213
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: you know where it feels like like you're in some

1214
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: sort of a torture inferno pit. But but here, you know,

1215
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: in the vibe of this film, you're like, okay, this

1216
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: makes sense. Of course they're you know, gangs of of

1217
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: Andy Warhol's garbaging up the street. Okay, well, what stops

1218
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: along the way do we want to highlight from from

1219
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: this journey? Because so it's sort of a zig zagging

1220
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: weird adventure here. Who just it has a bunch of

1221
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: little vignettes. Um, I guess we should mention Pluto's cafe, right,

1222
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: this is the one where where Ben Stiller's working as

1223
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: the cook, cooking food on the sidewalk outside and the

1224
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: dinner is full of undead cops covered in cobwebs. And

1225
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: there was one thing here because that I liked. Because

1226
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: so we see hell Coop taking Rachel too this uh diner,

1227
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: and he handcuffs her to the to the to the

1228
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: counter while he's I don't know, getting coffee in a donut.

1229
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, he's occupied doing something. I think he's

1230
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: shooting Jerry Stiller with the gun that sends him to

1231
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: another dimension. And meanwhile Rachel escapes by scalding the hand

1232
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: handcuffs with hot coffee. Uh you also you included in

1233
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: our notes a screenshot from it. Um. I had not

1234
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: noticed this, But there's something wonderful going on with the donuts.

1235
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's so this is a diner in Heald.

1236
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: It's full of undead cops and there is a glass

1237
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: display case full of donuts, but it's chained shut. Ah. Perfect, perfect.

1238
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: Now Here we get a bunch of different run ins

1239
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: that we get run ins with these desert bikers we

1240
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. I don't know if there's a whole lot

1241
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: interesting to say about them now. They were, like I said,

1242
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of the least interesting part of the film for me. Yeah.

1243
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: Then we get some mad Max style road battles between

1244
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: Charlie and his old manmobile and hell Cop in his

1245
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: battle buggy. And of course Charlie does not win this

1246
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: road battle, and he eventually gets his car wrecked. And um,

1247
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: and when his car is wrecked, Oh, there's one part

1248
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: I did like where he walks up to a telephone

1249
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: in the desert that he picks it up and you know,

1250
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: there's an operator who's like motorist aid and he's like, yeah,

1251
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: my car is wrecked, I need help, and then the

1252
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: operators just like sounds like you're walking gig. Yeah, there

1253
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of fun touches like that. There's a

1254
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: lot of media in Hell, a lot of commercials and

1255
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, TV and radio commercials a lot

1256
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: of times aims specifically at the character who's listening to them, um,

1257
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: you know, to to taunt them. One of my favorite

1258
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,440
Speaker 1: things in the whole movie was the Sticks Beer commercial

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Speaker 1: that it's so the Hell Cops car has a TV

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Speaker 1: in it, and so Rachel is riding in the back

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 1: of the car while the Hell Coops taking her somewhere

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01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: and uh and and she looks at the t V

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01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: and it's this announcer like holding a beer mug, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, when I come home from a long day

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01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: in Hell, there's nothing I'd rather reach for than a

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Speaker 1: fine brewed bottle of Sticks Beer, made from the filthiest

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: waters from our own river. Sticks. Sticks beer is a

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01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: third more toxic than any other regular beer. The worst beer,

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: the filthiest beer, the deadliest beer. It's Sticks beer. Yeah,

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: it's pretty great. There there's also one later where um what,

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: Rachel is taunted with a vision of herself having to

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Speaker 1: work in a pizza restaurant whilst caring for like a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of children, a whole bunch of infants. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty fun as well. Now after his car's reactually, Charlie

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Speaker 1: is aided by beazl. The guy who seems very nice

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Speaker 1: and helpful at first. This is Patrick Bergen. We eventually

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Speaker 1: find out that he is the devil himself. Um. There

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Speaker 1: there is one more scene I wanted to mention though

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Speaker 1: in Hell before we go onto anything else, which is

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Speaker 1: the Good Intentions Paving Company scene. Oh yeah, I thought

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: this was very good. Uh so's I guess getting quite

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: literal with with with this saying, you know, the road

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01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: to Hell is paved with good intentions. So there is

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Speaker 1: there's like an asphalt paving truck called Good Intentions Paving Company.

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: And then it's all these people explaining why the bad

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: thing they did had a good reason behind it, and

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01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: then they just get chucked into the mixer and then

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: and then their their body parts are used to pave

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Speaker 1: the road to Hell. Yeah, this, but this part was

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: pretty great. And I think now that I'm thinking about

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: it like, this feels like a gag from a Mad magazine,

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: and ultimately this whole movie feels like an extended Mad Magazine. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Did you know, even right down to the fact that

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: that Hell coop is scary and that a lot of

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: the monsters that we see look really cool Because I

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01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: remember reading, especially like parodies of films and Mad Magazine,

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: and a lot of times like the illustrations were really good.

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, It's like these were artists that we're creating me.

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: So I remember like a RoboCop RoboCop to parody in

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: Mad Magazine, and I remember as a kid maybe sort

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: of catching the jokes, but also being like, oh yeah,

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: those robots look really cool, you know, so strong Mad

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01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: Magazine energy in this film. There's another thing this movie does,

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01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 1: which I think I've realized. It's an obligatory type of

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: joke that every Hell comedy has to do, and the

1306
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: joke structure works like this, You criticize a merely annoying

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:36,440
Speaker 1: public figure or celebrity by situating them in Hell amongst

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: evil dictators and murderers. So there's like one part, there's

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01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: one scene here where there's like a table, uh, and

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01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: it has a bunch of names that says like seats,

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01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: it'says reserved for and I can't remember the name. The

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: rest of the names of the table are like dictators

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01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: and killers and stuff, and then one of them just

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01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: says Jerry Lewis. I think literally every like Simpson's Hell

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: Thing has had a joke of that structure. It's it's

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: always there now. Eventually in the film we go to

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01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: Hell City and there's there's some fun to be had

1318
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: there as well. There's some we increasingly get out of

1319
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: the desert and into more interesting set pieces when we

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: get into Hell City. So there's some some weird stuff

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: with like mannequin people that explode into plaster when they're

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: blasted with the Holy Shotgun. There is a a fake

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Rachel who then transforms into a like a hideous minotaur

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01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: woman and um and of course, as with Hellcop the minute,

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: our woman looks very real and very frightening um uh,

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01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: though is ultimately more of a comic threat. Ultimately, there's

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01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: one part where the Devil tries to tempt Rachel into

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: staying in Hell with him instead of leaving, and the

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: way he tries to tempt her is saying, like you

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: could have everything, but the the example of her having

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: everything is being able to play the violin. Remember that, yep, yep?

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: Like was that her dream? I don't, I don't. I

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: don't remember anything about that. It's it's also like that.

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01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: There's another point in the film too, where he he

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: makes an offer, this time to Charlie and he's like, uh,

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: something to his sports like you could own a particular

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: sports team. But he chooses the wrong sports team. So

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01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,799
Speaker 1: he's really not that great at tempting people. Um that's

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: he's like, you could be the um, you could be

1340
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the of the Dallas Cowboys or something,

1341
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: and he's like, I might have done it if you've

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: said the Niners. But yeah, he's put on the Niners cap. Yeah.

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01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: So it's it's weird. This is one of those films

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: where Okay, so Patrick Bergen, of course very charismatic, and

1345
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: and you know, they put a lot of energy into

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01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: creating this this Satan character for him, and I kind

1347
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: of got the feeling that towards the end of the movie,

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: the movie falls in love with Patrick Bergen Satan and

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01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: so the final moments of the film seem to be

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01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: more about Satan than anything else, like there's these scenes

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: of Satan. First of all, we'll go ahead and say,

1352
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: like it all comes down to a drag race, Like

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: you guys want to escape Hell, Well you got to

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: do a drag race with Hell cop and if you win,

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: you get to leave Hell. And so Satan's watching this

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: from from a hillside. He's smoking a cigar that like

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01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: one of his minions lights with their own burning finger. Um.

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01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: And and like when we end up closing the out

1359
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: the movie, they start playing this song um it is

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01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: maybe the next Time, performed by Deborah Crandell Parson, which

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: is kind of catchy, but it's like such a weird vibe,

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: like is this about Satan or we just like like

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: now the film has situated the devil as its central character.

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was about these kids trying to escape Hell.

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. I think. I think some

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: Batman movies or sometimes like this, where the actor playing

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: the villain is so much more fun that it really

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: kind of becomes about the villain. Yeah. Yeah, I did

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01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: want to mention that there's a payoff to the earlier

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: thing where where Rachel is said to have taken auto shop,

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01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: because and I think this is supposed to make sense.

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01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: She hot wires hell Coop's car for them to escape

1373
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: in it. Uh, And I was like, do they teach

1374
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: you to hot wire cars and auto shop? Maybe it

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: was an extra credit project. I don't know, but then

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, they make it out of Hell and

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: then hell Coop comes out with them and basically they

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: have one last showed showdown with hell Coop, which I

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01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: think is fitting because like, hell Coop is the real

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01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: physical threat, he's not the tempter and uh, you know

1381
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: mastermind that the satanic character is. So you get that

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: one last battle with hell Coop and she blasts the

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01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: glasses off of him and he's defeated. He like explodes

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01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: like a stick of dynamite and yeah, light shoots out

1385
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 1: of his eyes and then it's like dynamite and gasoline. Amazing.

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: Yeah that's high Way to Hell, folks. Yeah. So it's

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01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's it's fun flick. I feel like it.

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01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,879
Speaker 1: It holds up. It's not not tremendously offensive or anything.

1389
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: Um you know, it's uh, we were talking about this

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01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: like it's got a few like it's got a little

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: bit of nudity in it and maybe a little bit

1392
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: of language, but nothing that isn't like easily removed for

1393
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: cable airing. Um, because again I inevitably saw this on

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01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: cable back in the day. Oh yeah, that's that's the

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01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: point you were making that it's strange for the concept

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: being hell, that it's actually a relatively mild r Yeah yeah,

1397
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: but but also it's not like it's not like it

1398
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: would otherwise be a kids movie. I don't know, it's

1399
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: just this strange it's this strange film with this this vibe,

1400
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: all of it, all of its all its own. That's

1401
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: like a little bit Beetlejuice, a little bit um Dante's Inferno,

1402
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,520
Speaker 1: a little bit Mad Max and uh you know um

1403
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: uh you know Death Race uh thrown in there as well.

1404
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: It's a it's it's a wild movie that seems to

1405
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: be going on a number of different directions, and at

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: times it really works. Well. I wish i'd seen it

1407
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: on USA up all night when I like it have

1408
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: its part of my brain for my whole life. Well,

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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: if you want to see it now, Luckily, it seems

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01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 1: to be pretty widely available digitally. I think I watched

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: it on Amazon Prime just like concluded, you know, without

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: a subscription to another channel. Um and I think it's

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: been made available on DVD and perhaps Blu ray in

1414
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: the past as well. But yeah, if you're looking for

1415
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: Highway to Hell you'll be able to find it. It's

1416
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: out there. Um and yeah, I think it it holds

1417
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,959
Speaker 1: up pretty well. Uh. Like I said, it's it's worth watching,

1418
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, for stuff like Hell Cop and the weird

1419
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: performance by Patrick Bergen. Uh. Yeah, there's a lot of fun. Okay,

1420
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: one last question. We find out in the epilogue that,

1421
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: uh that dude dude goes on to make health themed

1422
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: video games. Uh Rachel goes on to do health themed pizzeria's,

1423
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: and the dog goes on to starring dog food commercials,

1424
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: but they're not healthymed dog food commercials. What's up with

1425
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 1: that asymmetry? Yeah? Yeah, because if it was healthy and

1426
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,919
Speaker 1: then then at least you can say, well, the experience

1427
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: of Hell inspired all of them, or perhaps the devil

1428
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: really did give them all some sort of a blessing

1429
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: for the for to take with them, you know. There

1430
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: there he's still actually controlling them all. Yeah, my dog's

1431
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: a little hell raiser, only the best for him. I

1432
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: did notice in the credits. I guess this is pretty standard.

1433
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: But you had one dog actor playing the dog, but

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: then you also had a stunt dog actor, so that's nice.

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01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know the dog was named Rags. You remember that, Yeah,

1436
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: but I forget the name of the dog that was

1437
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: the stunt dog. The dog did a very good job

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01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,520
Speaker 1: of peeing on command in the scene where he faces

1439
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: a Cerberus. You remember that. Yes, Oh goodness, there's a

1440
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: stop motion Cerberus in this and we didn't. We almost

1441
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: got out of the episode without mentioning that this film

1442
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: also features a practical effects like stop motion three headed

1443
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: dog and it's a it's a lot of fun. Yeah,

1444
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: And it has a confrontation with the cute little dog

1445
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: Ben and they just sort of like regard each other

1446
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: and then Ben pas on a rock and yeah, purely

1447
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: for comedy, and it's and it works. Yeah, all right,

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna go and close it out here, But if

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Speaker 1: you want to check out other episodes of Weird How

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