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Sure, 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: how can I help? 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: Well? 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: Uh, like I said, I've got a sixty nine Nova 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: and it's the SS three fifty with US, you know 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: the standard. No, it's not hopped up or anything like that. 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Yep. 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: And I went into Uh, I've always used R forty 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: four AC spark. 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 5: Plugs in it. 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: That's what the magno shows. And I've went in there 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: and they said those are no longer available. They do 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: make a U R forty five, right, which is a 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: hot which is a hotter plug, and they use that 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: plug in the three or sevens, in the three twenty 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: sevens in that era. But uh, they had the less 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: compression racial mind they's been like nine point five minds 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 4: run ten to quarter. 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 5: Right. 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know if you ever said hotter pug you 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: had some pregniche and problems are now well, I find 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: to my research and stuff and Phil Roddick's research, they 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: came up with the same number. They found an n 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: GK plug, which is US a b R six s 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: is pretty comparedtible to the R forty four's You know 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: anything about that plug, Well. 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The hot rod runs an NNGK 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: spark plug and the hot rod's a ten to one. 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: It's been a while since I thought about it. Uh, 47 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: the equivalent would have been a Delco or forty I 48 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: want to say forty four or forty five. I don't 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: remember which now it's been a while, but you know, 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: you're on the right path and you're thinking about the 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: right things. But the right answer is you won't know 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: until you try. You're running premium fuel in it anyway, 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: right right right, You're gonna have to with that kind 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: of compression. So if I could find an equivalent heat 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: range in that brand, I would prefer to try that. 56 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that no one has the forty fours though, 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: well those well they said, they said, or they can't 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: get them. You know, we deal we deal with a 59 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: parts house out of New Jersey by Wise Autoparts, also 60 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: known as Samuel's Autoparts, and we had a couple of 61 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: older Chevyes in there in the list in the shop 62 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: over the last few weeks, and we purchased some forty 63 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: five ts's, which, as you said, or made we purchased 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: some forty five s's we purchased, you know, you know, 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: and I just see them. They had an abundance of 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: older spark plugs, so. 67 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: You don't get to forty five's and stuff, but not 68 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: the forty fours. 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get forty three. 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: I think, can't you? Well, yeah, I would see. It 71 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: probably depends on the numbers of how many people are 72 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: gonna use them. But you know, have you have you 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 2: been the eBay route, just just for peace of mind 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: to see if anybody's making forty fours, I don't know. 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: Start making them or not by saying some old uh 76 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: old news stock on the eBay? 77 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, right? 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: Have you You know which parts house are you going 79 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: to for these spark plugs that don't seem to exist? 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: Well, well I've got I went to Rallies. I went 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: to three parts houses in mrraybo uh uh Ralles, in 82 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: Vance Auto and h there's another one. I went to 83 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: Autopro or something like that, but we wasn't None of 84 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: them had them. You know, of course said that's not available, 85 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: but he said that in k n gks pretty comparatible. 86 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I would go Here's what I would do. I 87 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: would get out to Rock Auto all right, Rock Autos, 88 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: the Rock Autos, the bar. I'm not a fan of 89 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: everything they have, but I'll use them to gauge whether 90 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: or not, g can I still get this part or not? 91 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: And if they tell you they've got forty Four's all 92 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: they're doing is pulling out of local warehouses and shipping 93 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: it to you, right, because because what I'm wondering is 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: are the forty four is really not available? Or is 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: it just that well we've got the ngks, let's just 96 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: sell them this. 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: Well they had order the mgk's also OVID. But uh 98 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: I called a couple of Chevy dealers in town and another 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: one out of town. 100 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, they're not gonna don't either. Yeah they're not 101 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: gonna have Yeah, that's that they thank. 102 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: You're lucky you're talking to guy from mantal moone. 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah for that con You know what it's it's so said, 104 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: how how much it's changed and gone away. In your 105 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: opening sentence to me, you use the word hopped up. 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: You know how long since I've you know how long 107 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: it's been since I've heard that term? Uh right? But 108 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: you but you use the word, you know, hopped up, 109 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: not hopped up. Nobody understands what that is anymore. We 110 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: speak a different language, and it's it's it's just so funny, 111 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: bro there, you know, it just it just it just 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: kind of makes me laugh a little bit. I have 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: no problem using the mngks to be direct if it's 114 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: the proper heat range. But frankly, heat range is going 115 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: to vary slightly by manufacturer, so. 116 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, they do. Why don't they have a standard on 117 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 4: heat ranges like AFC goes from one to five and 118 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 4: five is hotter than one is cold, and other brands 119 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: go from one to ten and the ten is cold 120 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: and one is hot, right. 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Because there is no there is no standard. Listen, I've 122 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: got news for you. A two twenty five seventy five 123 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: fifteen tire varies varies in inflated diameter by manufacturer. Think 124 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, they're they're not the same. That's why 125 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: on a modern day vehicle with ABS and traction control, 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: they don't recommend number one varying tires by tread depth obviously, 127 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: but don't vary tires by manufacturer because they're different. There's 128 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: always a slight difference in the overall size of that tire. 129 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of Listen, brother, there's a lot 130 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: of questions in life that I don't have answers to. 131 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: Can just deal with the ones that I know, And 132 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer to why heat ranges on 133 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: spark plugs were so different, or they vary from high, 134 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: high to low and low to high. But I would 135 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: stay with the nngks. I would go there, and I 136 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: think that'll do it for you. 137 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: All right, kiddo, you think you think he is an 138 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 4: R forty five too hot to that engine? 139 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: In I don't you know the problem is, you know, well, 140 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: the problem is we're trying to gauge heat range performance 141 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: of spark plug and an engine that was designed to 142 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: run on gasoline that hasn't existed in forty years. 143 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: Well that's true, that's true. 144 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: So you know where do we want to begin. It 145 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: was designed to run on leaded fuel, It was designed 146 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: to run on a different octane rating, was designed to 147 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: run on engine with different fuel additives to it. So 148 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 2: you know, I would almost think of it as I would. 149 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: I'd be willing to try the forty fives and maybe 150 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks pull one or two out. 151 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: What do they look like? Are they too lean? Are 152 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: they too rich? How are they burning? If it's not 153 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: creating a spark knock, if it's not creating a noise 154 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: in the engine. I mean, I've heard the story some 155 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: guys claim too high of a heat rangel burn a 156 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: hole in the top of a piston if going up 157 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: one heat If going up one heat range burns a 158 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: hole in the top of a piston, I've got to 159 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: think that's the result of mechanical damage due to inefficient 160 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: combustion due to incorrect octane rating of fuel. But you know, 161 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: for what you're trying to do, I will say this. 162 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: You know, way back when in tuning the hot rod, 163 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: I did go through the experience on the original car 164 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: that dropping the heat range one set did change engine 165 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: over all running temperature and lowered it by about twelve 166 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: degrees in the car ran cooler. 167 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 168 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: And and that made sense to me. But again that 169 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: was probably twenty five years ago. What was what was 170 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: gasoline like back in the mid nineties. I don't have 171 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: an answer to that. And you know that's that's where 172 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying, there's a little bit of give and take here. 173 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Remember what we're trying to do. What you're trying to 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: do is you're trying to you're a diagnostician, ed you 175 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: just don't know it yet. You're trying to diagnose and 176 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: figure out what what what spark plug your vehicle is 177 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: gonna run. Beth in the best answer is by the nngks, 178 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: by the forty fives, get the forty fours. You may 179 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: have to put a couple of sets of plugs in 180 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: this to see what accommodates today's fuel in today's tune 181 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: the best. 182 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just thought about the fuel situation. 183 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: So all right, fair, hey. 184 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: I'll give you some information. 185 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: I guess you're very welcome, sir. You'll be well, yeah, 186 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: you've got to consider it all because there is no 187 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: set factor anymore. Gasoline is the game changer. Gasoline changes 188 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: completely how that engine is going to run, and you 189 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: know how it's gonna how it's going to maintain itself. 190 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: And you know, we've got to be willing to try 191 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: different things because nothing's by the book on an older 192 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: car like that, a classic like that. But I would 193 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: try to find the set of forty fours if you could, 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: and buy two or three sets. I've got a bunch 195 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: of stock for the Monte Carlo, probably more than I'll 196 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: need in this lifetime. So if it is stock ed, 197 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: by the way, we never talked about that, what are 198 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: you running for? Points? If the ignition system is stocked, 199 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: and if you think ignition system isn't stocked, then heat 200 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: range of the spark plug is a mute point, and 201 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: we could have talked about that too, but I just 202 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: thought of it now. Eight five five five six nine 203 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: nine zero zero. I'm running ady in the car. 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: Doctor. 205 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this, you know, just thinking 206 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: about ED real quick. If you're still listening, did you 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: go in and ask for an R forty four? Did 208 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: you have them look it up by application? Because if 209 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: you're going by the owner's man no. One, assuming this 210 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: is an all original sixty nine novass. If you're going 211 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: by the owner's manual, that document is over sixty years old. 212 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: Has GM superseded or called for a from plugging the 213 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: Delco family? And I would just I would want to 214 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: verify that too, because I'm willing to bet that there's 215 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: something out there that would work in the Delco family generally, 216 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: even though it's a sixty year old car. I'm sure 217 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: there's something there that Delco makes, So just double check that. 218 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: Brian in Philadelphia, how are you today, my friend Ron? 219 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 5: How are you doing all right? 220 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: What's going on? 221 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 5: My father and I we've always had this sort of 222 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: asynthetic oil versus conventional oil thing. Now, even when cars 223 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: didn't require it. My father always put in synthetic and 224 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: he would stretch the miles to the highest level. Whatever 225 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: it was, seventy five hundred instead of five thousand. Now, 226 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 5: his current car, it's a twenty twenty three Hyundai Lantra. 227 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 5: He bought it. He got it in twenty twenty two, 228 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: but it's twenty twenty three. Calls for synthetic because I 229 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: think zero W twenty is only a synthetic weight if 230 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken correct. And he's ninety years old. He 231 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 5: doesn't drive much anymore. So I now have his car 232 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 5: and mine. Now I'm coming up on six months and 233 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: I have well, I have under five thousand miles. But 234 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 5: I told him, look, even if it's synthetic, I don't 235 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 5: feel a car should have you know, should have oil 236 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 5: in it for the same oil for more than six months. 237 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: And he's debating that. I said, look, you know what 238 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 5: I'm saying. Because oil there is a time limit. I 239 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: said the manual. I don't know what the manual says, 240 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 5: but I always felt that no matter what oil or 241 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 5: miles you have in it, you should never go more 242 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 5: than six months. That's my opinion. See if you if 243 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 5: you agree with me, on this. 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Has Have you and your father aged in the last 245 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: six months? 246 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: He has and I have. 247 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: He's ninety. He doesn't age. 248 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: I do right, well, but you're a little more beat up, right, 249 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: Life goes on, Time goes by. Yeah, we all do. 250 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: Brother. 251 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: If we sit in that chair for six months, we're 252 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: getting older. 253 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: And I was a truck driver. I was. I was 254 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 5: a truck driver, So I'm pretty damn beat up. 255 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you know. But I mean, you know, 256 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: time counts, right, And where is that car sitting if 257 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: it's not driven for the last six months? And is 258 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: it short trip driving? Is oh it's being driven? 259 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: No? 260 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 5: No, I use it. He can use it. So I 261 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 5: do a rotation four days a week in my fourth 262 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 5: usion and the next four days on his. So it's 263 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 5: getting active use. I'm just between two cars. Since I'm 264 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: splitting two cars, I'm not getting the mile. I'm not 265 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 5: putting on the miles I used to, but his car 266 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: gets plenty of use. 267 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: Are you changing? 268 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: Are you? 269 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: Are you changing the oil? 270 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: Brian? 271 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Are you taking it somewhere? 272 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: All right? 273 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 5: Take it? I get a mechanic, okay, so say mechanic 274 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 5: for years? 275 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: So you know, I like the six month oil change. 276 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: I but you know, I'm weird. I think I think 277 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: changing oil is cheaper than changing cars, and. 278 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 5: You said, I'm sorry. 279 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think the longevity comes from 280 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: you know, maintenance. I think it's still a machine. Uh 281 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: you know, I see, I see some amazing things that 282 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: cars do. We just had a Subaru in the shop 283 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: that was eight thousand miles overdo its oil change all right, 284 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: for just eight thousand The oil was like tar coal coal, 285 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: tar coal oil. It was horrible. And you know what 286 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: the problem was. The husband said he was going to 287 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: do it, the wife said she was going to do it. 288 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: Now they're not talking to each other. So more automotive 289 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: couples counseling I have to give. But you know, it 290 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: really comes back to oil still the cheapest thing you 291 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: can put in a car, and on an older car, 292 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: even though this isn't that much older, synthetic oil is 293 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: the best. I can't. I don't use conventional anymore. I 294 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: don't even stock it. Too many cars today call for 295 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: such specific oils because the last thing oil does is lubricate. 296 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: It does so many other things in terms of hydraulics 297 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: and valve timing and cooling and everything else that's going on. 298 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: And I'm with you. I think six seven months. Great, 299 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: Let's change the oil, check the tire pressure, look at 300 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: the fluids. You know, is everything where it's supposed to be, 301 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: And it's it's not a matter of wasting money on 302 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: doing one extra oil change every three if we want 303 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: to think of it like that, are we wasting it's 304 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: we don't have to go out and buy a forty 305 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: to fifty sixty thousand dollars vehicle. And that's what we're chasing. 306 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: And that's just proper care and normal maintenance. You know, 307 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: oil does break down from sitting, Oil does get condensation, 308 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: oil does age as it as it sits short trip driving, 309 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: if you're not going five thousand miles and six months, 310 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: can I ask how long is your commute, Brian? How 311 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: far is round trip? 312 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: I go about about twenty miles each way? 313 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Right? 314 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: But like I said, I'm splitting two cars. You know, 315 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: my car is conventional. They use a what do you 316 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: call it? A blend? 317 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, synthetic. 318 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: A blend is any better? I don't think you know. 319 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 5: I think they're more conventional. Between you and me, I 320 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: don't think you know A blend is in a fifty 321 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: to fifty. I believe of conventional and synthetic. But the 322 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: fact that I use the cars, I split them evenly. 323 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: I'm not really putting on the miles. But my see mine, 324 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: I'm not going to go over five thousand, you know, 325 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: because it's conventional. My fusion is a seventeen, So I'm 326 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: even more. I do things even more frequently with that one, right, 327 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: you know, because it's older, and you know that's five 328 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 5: w twenty conventional, right, and I would do twenty eight. 329 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: So I'm a stickler because some people say, you know, 330 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 5: pay now or pay later. My theory is pay now 331 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: or pay a lot more later. 332 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: Well, one hundred percent, And frankly, I wouldn't even be 333 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: using a blend. I would just be poor. I would 334 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: just be pouring synthetic in it. How much more is 335 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: synthetic two dollars a quart, ten bucks extra for an 336 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: oil change? 337 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: Ah, Probably it all depends. It's maybe twenty bucks more, 338 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: twenty five bucks more. But find out if. 339 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: What you're know what you're comparing, all right, I haven't 340 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: stocked I haven't stocked anything but synthetic in the shop. 341 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: Probably in eight or nine years pre COVID. 342 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: I think we're getting to the point. I think we're 343 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 5: all cars are going to require it, am I right? 344 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and I think all cars benefit from it. I 345 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: think cars would benefit more from an oil that meets 346 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: manufacturer spec as a synthetic than oil that meets such 347 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: a high tolerance of expectation. Don't have to change it 348 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: for fifteen thousand miles, because my concern is, you know, 349 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: what's the filter rated for? As the little old man 350 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: gets older, who's given him the physical on a regular basis. 351 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 5: I've never gone more than seventy five hundred at best, 352 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: winning with a lot of miles. My father and I 353 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: you know, my father would never ever you know, if 354 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: they say ten thousand, he will never ever go on 355 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 5: My father's like, you know, he taught me there's a 356 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: maintenance book, you follow it. 357 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: Well. The other side of that, Brian, is that if 358 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: you got in a car and drove from New York 359 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: to California at one steady speed and load and temperature, 360 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: you could probably go ten thousand miles. But you can't. 361 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: You're not You're waking up in Pilly and you're driving 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: twenty miles out and twenty miles back, or ten miles 363 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: out and ten miles back, and there's warm up, there's 364 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: cool down there, stop and go. There's all sorts of 365 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: factors that come into play. Could just stretch it and 366 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: make it once a year, Yeah you could, But you're 367 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: really not gonna lift the hood of that car. That's 368 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: a that's a what year car? That's a twenty three? 369 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: Yours is a seventeen. You've got an almost nine year 370 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: old car. You're not gonna lift the hood of. You're 371 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: not gonna lift the hood of that nine year old 372 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: car for a year. 373 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: His is a twenty three, but he bought it in 374 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 5: the summer of twenty two. You know, I get to 375 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 5: come out early, but I never I've never gone over 376 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: six thousand miles in any car as far as an oil. 377 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry. I've never gone over six months 378 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 5: ever in any car. I just feel like six months 379 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: is the uh. I don't know that seems like a 380 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 5: conservative limit. 381 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: I think it is one hundred percent. I think it is, kiddo. 382 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: I think six months, five thousand miles. We just put 383 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: somebody on a four thousand miles six month interval. I 384 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: like six months. I think a lot can change in 385 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: six months. I think as a car ages a good 386 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: mechanic set of eyes under the hood and under the chassis. 387 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: It only takes an instant for something on the road 388 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: to change the light cycle of that car and compromise 389 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: somebody's safety. That if you're not aware of it, well 390 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: it's a problem. So not a big argument to be had. 391 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: But six months is a good number. I'm running any 392 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: in the car doctor, I'll be back right after this 393 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: from the seat streets to the open route to night. 394 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: If you'll ride needs keep right, yeah, you know, I 395 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: want you to think about oil change intervals, just real 396 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: quick for a second. I bet in three out of 397 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: five oil changes at the shop we always find some 398 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: legitimate something that car is due for or or you know, 399 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: tire pressure, low fluid. Probably four out of five times 400 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: for that. So the value in an oil change isn't 401 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 2: just clean oil, of course it is. That's common sense. 402 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: A car that sits or a car that doesn't make mileage, 403 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: all right, we'll have oil breakdown issues. Now we could 404 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: talk about and have the deeper conversation of you know, 405 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: where's that fine line where do we want to get 406 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: it done? But the fact is what will that cost? 407 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: What will independent oil analysis cost to do, so we 408 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: have to look at the overall cost of the car. 409 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: They say that thirty thousand dollars is the price of 410 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: the average used car today, and that's something that is 411 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: going to be three to five years old, something with 412 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: thirty to fifty thousand miles on it or more. My god, 413 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: I saw one hundred thousand mile Toyotas for sale the 414 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: other day for about twenty two thousand bucks. You know, 415 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: what's the price of the car, So what's the value 416 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: in the oil change trying to get the three hundred 417 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: thousand miles so by all means, time becomes a factor. 418 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: Paul in New Hampshire. How can I help you today, sir? 419 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: Run an Indian at your service? 420 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: How we're going, sir? Good sir? I'll tell you you're 421 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: lucky to have a good wing man there behind the 422 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: phone line. He's doing it, does a great job. 423 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: Tom is the best, absolutely the best, the man behind 424 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: the scenes. What's going on? 425 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: I got a friend that has a Honda Turbo earth 426 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: streams technology for cylinder twenty eighteen c or of the 427 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: touring right, and he has a second car and this 428 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: car that we're talking about, the twenty eighteen he parked 429 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: it in September and full tank, guess, and he talked 430 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 3: to me about it and the winner, and I said, well, 431 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: did you put edit uf And he said no, when 432 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: I put some editor fin and sloshed it around, driving 433 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: up and down the driveway. But it's getting close to 434 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: a year, and I'm thinking it's better to get the 435 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: gas out and put frush gas in. But I tried 436 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: to siphon it out, but evidently you're not. You can't. Yeah, 437 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm that out. 438 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: Why don't we just start it and let an idol 439 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: for a day or two? 440 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: You think that's the best way to go. 441 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: Well, because you know, if we if we gauge cost factor. Listen, 442 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: there's a couple of things in my mind here that 443 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: that go on when I get these kind of questions. 444 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: How many miles around the car? Fifty five sixty five 445 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: thousand h fifty five fifty five so it's approaching sixty 446 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: So did it have a thirty thousand mile service? 447 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: Not my car, I can't say. But he's a type. 448 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: He's a Korean word a cbe uh. So probably I 449 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: would say probably, probably, I would think so. 450 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: But at the very least it's come and do for 451 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: a sixty Oh yeah, So why do we do the 452 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: sixty early? Why don't we, you know, consider changing trans fluid. 453 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: It's an eighteen. When was the last time coolant was changed? 454 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: Right, that's questionable. I'm not I can't really answer. 455 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: That engine oil without a doubt. 456 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh right, I know he's there for the engine oil. 457 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: Right, break fluid. 458 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: I I'd have to ask them about it. 459 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: Well, my point becomes, you know, it's it's it's kind 460 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: of about if it's wet, change it, right, And it's 461 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: it's not so much the fact that it's sat for 462 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: almost a year. It's when was it all done last? 463 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: And if we're going to start to use it again, 464 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: let's ensure that we can use it with the least 465 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: chance or probability of a failure or breakdown in a 466 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: less than expected time frame. So, if it's wet, change it. 467 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: One of the problems of that generation Honda, just to 468 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: be clear, is there are known failures for head gaskets. 469 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, that should be the engine that they 470 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: made a mistake. Honda kind of made a boo boo 471 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: when they designed that engine, and the gap between the 472 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: gap between cylinders is so tiny. The head gaskets have 473 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: been failing and it's a quite costly five thousand dollars operation. 474 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: So you know, he could verify that with his local 475 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: Honda dealer. They should be able to tell him based 476 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: on the vin whether or not the bulletins that are 477 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: out about that engine apply. There are some also some 478 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: known issues with that particular transmission to cvet another headache, 479 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: all right that you know, Honda, they're taking their lumps lately. 480 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: I had a long term associate call me the other week. 481 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: His girlfriend was driving her that generation Honda suffered a 482 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: transmission failure, and after the trans was replaced three weeks later, 483 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: the engine failed, probably because of dealer install Geene was 484 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: telling me some stories and comments about how the vehicle 485 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: was put back together. But it just makes you wonder, 486 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: you know, what's the validity of those cars? Just how 487 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: good are they? So some things to consider and be 488 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: aware of, all right, kiddo. 489 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember the proverbial free lunch that nobody can find? 490 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: Right? 491 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: Well, I found it today. I was in a parking 492 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: lot with my pickup truck, silver pickup truck, and it 493 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 3: was there for two weeks and it was old, dusty, 494 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: It looked brown, and coming home, I went by the 495 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: golf course and their irrigation was on, and it arched 496 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: over the parking lot to get to the griff on 497 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: the other side, and I pulled underneath and got a 498 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: free car wash. 499 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: Look at that. Huh, how much better can you get 500 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: than that in the course of a day. As long 501 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: as the windows were closed, you were good. 502 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: Right, Well, it definitely was well good. 503 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad it worked out for you, Paul, in any event, 504 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is just a common sense thing. Let's 505 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: and of course how old is the battery, so it's 506 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: just a matter of you know. But I would just 507 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a problem running that fuel forward if 508 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: if it starts, I'd get the tank down under a 509 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: half a tank and then go fill it up with 510 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: fresh fuel and drive it around even more. And I 511 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: would think you're going to be fine if it starts. 512 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: It's got enough pop in it to make it run. 513 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't put a lot of load on the engine. 514 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: That's why I like idling it for longer periods of time, 515 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: and obviously don't want to do it on one hundred 516 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: and three scolding heat day. But you know, changing the 517 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: oil before and changing the oil after is cheaper than 518 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: having to change the engine. 519 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: So he was running, running the car like every week 520 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: or two. We'd run it for ten fifteen minutes, which 521 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: was a good. 522 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: Thing, right right, kind of keep the seals wet, as 523 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: we like to say. But you know that's how I 524 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: would approach it, all right, kiddo. 525 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: A thank you Ron very much. 526 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Paul, you'd be well, and I appreciate 527 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: the call. Bye bye, Yeah, I'll listen. Just I always 528 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: say fluids are cheaper than a car, and that's the 529 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 2: bottom line. Eight five five five six oh nine nine 530 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: zero zero. I'm run any of the car. Doctor. We're 531 00:25:41,760 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: back right after this. Let's cruise over and talk to Nick. 532 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: Nick in Virginia. Twenty actor. What's going on, Nicholas? How 533 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: can I help? 534 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: Hey? 535 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 6: Ron, good afternoon, Yes, sweat question, Yes, sir, I bought 536 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 6: this twenty twenty actor RDX back in February, and I've 537 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 6: never had a vehicle that had to start stop switch 538 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 6: on it before. 539 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Little unsettling, isn't it? 540 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 6: It is a little annoying. 541 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 542 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 6: My question is and I'm retired, I just adm mainly 543 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 6: driving around Virginia beach. Is it best to leave that 544 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 6: switch on or or shut it off? 545 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: When I'm grabbing? 546 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: I like it off. I like to not use start stop. 547 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: Am I gonna burn a little more fuel? 548 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 549 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: Is it less wear and tear on the car? In 550 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: my mind as a mechanic, yeah, it is. You know, 551 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: they say that that start stop starter is about four 552 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: times the price of a traditional starter. So if the 553 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: average starter for today's automobile is three to five hundred dollars, 554 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: that's a fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars starter. 555 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 5: Wow. 556 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Don't I kind of want that to last longer? Well, 557 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: you got to think about it, right, it's gear driven differently, 558 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: and it has to wind up. You ever notice how 559 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: fast it starts right? You know? And we were listening 560 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,239 Speaker 2: we were talking about oil consistency and quality in an 561 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: early part of this hour this week's show, and we're 562 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: talking about viscosity, incorrect oil viscosity. You know, we'll create 563 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: a start stop problem. The other thing that comes up 564 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 2: with start stop is and this just came out this year. 565 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: They finally had enough data to prove it that. Think 566 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: of a bicycle sprocket, right, if you painted a red 567 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: dot on a bicycle sprocket. On the big sprocket, it 568 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: was pointed straight up. That's top, that's top that center. Okay, 569 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: if we wanted to vary camshaft timing, and you don't 570 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: have to be a mechanic to understand this, but just 571 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: know that if we if we move the dot forward 572 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: a little bit, or move the dot backwards a little bit, 573 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: we're going to affect power level. In the end, we're 574 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: going to advance or retard timing or you know, engine 575 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: operation for specific conditions. Well, what they're finding is stop 576 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: start is such a sudden bang start to the engine 577 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: that it shocks that cam sprocket this way or that way. 578 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: For the sake of this conversation, and I'm making it 579 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: very simple, they're finding that starts stop is having an 580 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: effect on the longevity of variable valve timing and timing components. 581 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: And if you think about it, it makes sense. The 582 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: engine's off, everybody's relaxed, and all of a sudden bang, 583 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: you're pushed to the limit. You know, you're shoved against 584 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: the wall. You're shoved against the wall. You're shoved against 585 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: the wall. Isn't that a shock to your system? What 586 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: do you think it does. What do you think it 587 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: does to the mechanics of the engine? 588 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 5: You know? 589 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, battery two, you know, and listen, it's not gonna 590 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: help because I think all batteries after after a battery 591 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: is five years old. If you're still driving around on 592 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: a five year or older battery, I think you might 593 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: as well go to Vegas and bet the house. You know, 594 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: it's it's you're just you're you're just looking for the problem, 595 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: no matter how you look, no matter how I look 596 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: at it, I just you know, the road is a 597 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: very unforgiving place. I swear I'm gonna put that on 598 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: one of the coffee cups in the store. The road 599 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: downhill is paved with ice, and it's just a steep 600 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: slide after you get started. So I for me, I 601 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: would drive around with it off. All right, it's it's now, 602 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: this is a six year old accurate nick. How many miles? 603 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: How many miles are on it? 604 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 6: Low miles? 605 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: Right now? 606 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 6: It's about forty forty two thousand. 607 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: Okay, air cabin filters. You know you're coming do it 608 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: fifty between fifty and sixty. You're going to service the 609 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: trans You're gonna do a fuel Yeah, sure, yeah, why 610 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: not cheaper cheaper than replacing it, and you're gonna do 611 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: a fuel system cleaning low miles? This car went what 612 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: this car six years old? It went fifty thousand miles. 613 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: So this car went less than eight thousand miles a year, right? 614 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: Is that a lot of Is that a lot of 615 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: idle time? Is that a lot of warm up time? 616 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: Is that lack of warm up time? You know what? 617 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Everybody needs a vitamin B one shot every once in 618 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: a while. Sure, sure, so just just my two cents, 619 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: all right, kiddo. 620 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, ron, So thanks for you. 621 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir, and listen, if you want to 622 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: do it on your own, get down to your local 623 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: Advanced Audo Parts. Let me just explain this real quick. 624 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: Get down to your local Advanced Audo parts. C RC 625 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: makes a GDI fuel system cleaning kit. It's something you 626 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: can do as a non mechanic. There's there's a bunch 627 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: of videos out on the web. You can look at 628 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: them and you can do a fuel system cleaning on 629 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: your own. You can have a professionally done either way, 630 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: but getting it done will be the most benefit to 631 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: that particular vehicle, all. 632 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 6: Right, kidd, Ron, can't you just put those those little 633 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 6: bottles of fuel cleaner right in the gas tank? 634 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: Well, well you should be. But bottles of bottles of 635 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: cleaner in the gas tank? Are that? Are that vitamin? 636 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: They're there? 637 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: You know? 638 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Do you take a vitamin in the morning? 639 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: Nick? 640 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: All right, so you take that vitamin in the morning, 641 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: But don't you go in for a more extensive check 642 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: up and and a physical and a little bit of 643 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: a better work up once a year? 644 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: Sure? 645 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 2: Well, one's the vitamin. One's the annual all right. And 646 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: that's and and that's the whole purpose of it. Brother, 647 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: And trust me, I take my vitamins in the morning too. 648 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: So we're we're all at that age, all right, kidd 649 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, you'd be. Well, it's the truth. It's 650 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: it's we're at that stage and age. It's it's what 651 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 2: would that coffee cup look like? We should do it? 652 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: I think we did do Did we do it? You 653 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: know we did do a two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 654 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: coffee cup. I think I think we're about to. I 655 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: know the T shirts are out there. Boy, nobody asked 656 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: me for a T shirt today. Tom, you were wrong 657 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: and I had the perfect answer. You know what it 658 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: was going to be. If somebody asked me for a 659 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: T shirt today, I was going to ask if they 660 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: could I was gonna ask if they could cluck like 661 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: a chicken. 662 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Right, I thought you were going to say that I 663 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: was wearing them, so they couldn't have one. 664 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: Well that's the couldn't have that one, nor would they 665 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: want it. But I would ask him if they can 666 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: make a chicken sound, maybe we should do that. The 667 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: next person that makes a chicken sound won't be this 668 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: week because I don't think we're taking any more calls 669 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: this week, so I'm off the hook for a week. 670 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: But the next person that clucks like a chicken, let's 671 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: see what our listener base comes up with. God, I 672 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: can only imagine. Boy oh boy, So we want to 673 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: hear the chickens out there? Eight five five five six 674 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. We're back right after this. See 675 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: if I touch the button right then we have studio 676 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: problems today. Tom, Look at that, So I'm back. I 677 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: had hit the button all the way. 678 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think it's I think it's operator error. 679 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: It's I D ten T error, you know it's it's 680 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm tired. It's the end of the It's the end 681 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: of the week of the show. No, I D ten 682 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: T error. You need to write that I D ten 683 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: T I'll after Yes, you'll figure it out. Yeah, I'll 684 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: figure that out. Listen, let me do the mail bag. 685 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: This comes to us from Mark in Bridgewater, New Jersey. Hey, Ron, 686 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 2: I recently bought a new Chabby Silverado nice truck, three 687 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: leader Duramax diesel. It's my first diesel truck. I'm hoping 688 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: to keep it for a long time. I've been hearing 689 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: a lot about diesel fuel additives, especially hot shot secret, 690 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure if they're really necessary, just something 691 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: people like to argue about online. You ever noticed that. 692 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Internet was meant for information 693 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: or for people to argue. That's all they seem to do, 694 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: is they argue online. Mark concludes by saying, should I 695 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: use an editor with every tank once in a while 696 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: or not at all? Mark, First of all, congratulations nice truck, 697 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: the three liter Duramax. A lot of improvements, a lot 698 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: of changes in the last couple of years. It's become 699 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: a very strong engine. It's smooth, it's quiet, it makes 700 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: like five hundred foot pounds of torque, and if you 701 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: take care of it, it's got the potential to go 702 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: for a long time. But here's the thing. Today's diesel 703 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: fuel isn't the same as it was years ago. And 704 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: that's again we're talking about fuel this week. Right, Ultra 705 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: Soul for diesel burns cleaner, but it also has less 706 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: natural lubricity. I think we mentioned that in the show 707 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: somewhere today. You know, it's got less lubricity than older 708 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: diesel fuel, and the quality of the fuel is what 709 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: makes this a mandatory effect, and it's why so many 710 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: diesel owners turn to fuel treatments. 711 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: Right. 712 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: I'm not a believer in miracle products, you guys know that, 713 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: But I am a believer in preventative maintenance. And we 714 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: were actually using hot Shot Secret product hot Shot Secrets 715 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 2: EDT or Everyday Diesel Treatment way before they became a sponsor. 716 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: EDT from hot Shot Secret can help improve lubricity, it 717 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: keeps injectors cleaner, and it supports the high pressure fuel system. 718 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: And that's an expensive insurance mark compared to the cost 719 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: of modern diesel injectors and fuel pumps. Wait, don't Heaven 720 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: forbid if you ever get into fuel system repair, so 721 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 2: more important than any additive is also using correct engine oil, 722 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: changing it on schedule, buying fuel from busy fuel stations, 723 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: and giving the truck enough highway driving to complete its 724 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: diesel particulate fuel regenerations, which are also important the additive. 725 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: It's one part of an overall maintenance plan. It's not 726 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: a magic fix, but it is something you should be 727 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: doing on a regular basis. And if I owned a diesel, 728 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: the Hotshot Secret website would be the toy store to 729 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: me where I'd be going out to buy all my 730 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: favorite stuff to keep that diesel running a good long time. 731 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: I hope that does it for you. Enjoy the truck 732 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm running dy in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 733 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 2: They're priceless. 734 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: See ya, he's a car doctor. 735 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: curR Advice to ride