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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola, and we're finally back almost all of

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Speaker 1: us here on Mick Shots in the s WBC podcast

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Speaker 1: studio at the Star on this Monday. Mickey Spagnola, Everson

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Speaker 1: Today's Landry Award Day for the high schools, and he's

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Speaker 1: busy doing all those things right, doing interviews. So Everson,

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Speaker 1: I will try to hang in here. It seems like

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked in a week. Well, yeah, it's almost

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Speaker 1: that way, right. Yeah, you and I talked though. We

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Speaker 1: talked on Friday. Yeah, I was trying to see if

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Speaker 1: good because I was driving at the time, so that

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Speaker 1: took up some time. Somebody said, what do you do

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Speaker 1: you were trying to Yeah, you were trying to make

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Speaker 1: us do your time with you. That's right. We can't

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Speaker 1: show would not have worked. I was out of town.

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Speaker 1: You were out of the town. The last time we

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Speaker 1: weren't ready for that. No, yeah, yeah, wait. The last

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Speaker 1: time I had the show was Tuesday. Oh, it was Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It was Tuesday. We had to hurry up. When I

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Speaker 1: picked the clicks, we had no idea. How do we do?

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Speaker 1: close if not for the Big Fat Man returning an intercept.

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Speaker 1: He called himself it was the big Fat Man's dream, right,

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Speaker 1: interception returned for a touchdown, which, by the way, that

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Speaker 1: hadn't happened by a Cowboys defensive lineman since Jim Jeff

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Speaker 1: Coach tell me no, nineteen ninety nine, Greg Ellis, I

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Speaker 1: do we got here? Here are we had held on?

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Speaker 1: Here's what we had for pick to click? I had

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Speaker 1: now Bill had sixteen thirteen and d Law was going

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Speaker 1: to be his pick to click. You had, no. I

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Speaker 1: had Cowboys twenty four to sixteen. That's pretty good. Not close.

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Speaker 1: Just look at that, okay, and I had Dak over

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Speaker 1: you know, he didn't he didn't get it. And you

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Speaker 1: So we didn't do so well on we put us

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Speaker 1: all together. We did ball five catchers. Yes he did, Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Dak did well except for the last. We could definitely

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Speaker 1: I here's I see when I when I listen, I

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Speaker 1: Ken Norton Junior. This is you know, they always wont ugly.

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Speaker 1: manager Doug Raider said that team wins ugly. Well guess what.

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Speaker 1: That became their battle cry. And I found look what

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Speaker 1: winning ugly, how old is that thing? Nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 1: So you got to look at this as a win,

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Speaker 1: some reason, when you always wonder why people call plays

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Speaker 1: that they did, the Saints decided they were gonna throw

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Speaker 1: while Taysom Hill was running the ball eleven times for

428
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Speaker 1: one hundred and one yards, right, and they called the

429
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Speaker 1: pass play and Micah Parsons broke through, and I don't

430
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Speaker 1: think Taysom Hill figured out how sudden this kid plays

431
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Speaker 1: because he thought he was going to run away from him,

432
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Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, he sacks him for

433
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Speaker 1: not only a sack, but eleven yard loss, took him

434
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Speaker 1: out of at least a field goal range, right and

435
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Speaker 1: potentially getting a first down and scoring a touchdown, and

436
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Speaker 1: not suddenly it's twenty seventeen. Right. He was like a shark,

437
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: right when when the shark comes at you, as it

438
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: gets closer, it gets faster faster, And that's what he did.

439
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: It's like because you first you're like, oh crap, you

440
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he comes because you know what's coming.

441
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: But then there's the realization of just how much space

442
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: has closed in the short amount of time. And so

443
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: now you're you're you're not just surprised, now you're alarmed

444
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: because you could actually lose the ball because others why

445
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: then you're saying, oh, s right, right, And so now

446
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out what not. I'm not trying

447
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: to salvage the play. I'm trying to protect the ball now.

448
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: And there are times when that usually comes out, but

449
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: it was amazing that Hill could just even hold on

450
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Speaker 1: to it. Dan Quinn early when he was talking about

451
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Speaker 1: the attributes of Michael Parsons, he said, he is so sudden,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, that's the that's it. He's sudden. He

453
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Speaker 1: just all of a sudden, he's on top of you, right,

454
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Speaker 1: And so to me, that play right there kind of

455
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Speaker 1: preserved the Cowboys lead. Uh, and you know they kind

456
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Speaker 1: of cling clung on, cling on, clung on, Yeah, clung

457
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Speaker 1: on until they got to the interception, which was funny

458
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: because when they got the interception, it was, you know,

459
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: several minutes left in the game. So I'm packing up

460
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 1: to go down because previously, although they speeded it up,

461
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's because it's Caesar's Superdome. The elevator to the

462
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: press box was the slowest elevator in the United States.

463
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Speaker 1: So I'm going, okay, I better go down, right. So

464
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Speaker 1: I go down, and by time I get on the field,

465
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got the ball and I was like, well,

466
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Speaker 1: what the hell happened? And Chris goes, well, they kicked off.

467
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Speaker 1: I know what you mean, they kicked off. I didn't

468
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: see they had scored the touchdown to get to seventeen, right, um,

469
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: but yeah, So to me, that play right there was huge,

470
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Speaker 1: forcing them the punt from their thirty seven yard line.

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00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's think about this and brought it up. We knew

472
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Speaker 1: it every game. He's almost the fastest person on the

473
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Speaker 1: field in every game. Good point. That's that's crazy when

474
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Speaker 1: when when you think about that, it's just this is

475
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Speaker 1: a linebacker. This is two hundred and forty fifty pounds,

476
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: almost fifty. I think they officially put him at two

477
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Speaker 1: forty six. And he doesn't even look like it. No,

478
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: and that's scary as well. So it's almost like watching uh,

479
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Speaker 1: the running back from the tightness. It's almost like David

480
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: watching David Himmy, it's that amazing. Could you imagine a

481
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: matchup between those two. I just thought about that. That

482
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: would be crazy. I still want him to put the

483
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Speaker 1: ball in his hands. They just think, well, he's on

484
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Speaker 1: punt coverage, right, Uh, maybe he can pick one other right.

485
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Speaker 1: As Fossil has pointed out, he wants to return punts,

486
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Speaker 1: I mean kickoffs. He wants them. He wants to return kickoffs,

487
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Speaker 1: and he goes, no, will will like to look I

488
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: don't even like that. Look, I don't like that. All

489
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Speaker 1: I know is and I mentioned this before on the show. Franklin,

490
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Speaker 1: the head coach at Penn State, had said during the

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Speaker 1: draft that had Michael Parsons played that that COVID year,

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Speaker 1: that he was going to have him return kickoffs at

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Speaker 1: Penn State because he was that good of all, and

494
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Speaker 1: he was, yeah, that was he recruited as a running back. No,

495
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: I think they recruited him as a defensive end and

496
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: then they turned him into he's got too much speed

497
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Speaker 1: to play defensive end linebacker. He's more free to go

498
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Speaker 1: and do different things. Right, and now the fact that

499
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: you've got DeMarcus Lawrence back, it looks like Randy Gregory

500
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: is going to be back. Okay, so now you got

501
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: your defensive ends. You know, you're these are things that

502
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Speaker 1: that is no one ever talks about that they do

503
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: all during the week, but when the game happens and

504
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, well that is, and I'm talking

505
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: about these guys that really they're not they don't have

506
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Speaker 1: any any credibility necessarily as really people that no sports.

507
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: They're just good at talking sports. And so when you

508
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: think about that, you're talking about though, really they're just

509
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: glorified fans. But what I want them to see is

510
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: you're so biased against the Cowboys in what they do

511
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Speaker 1: and how they do it. You say, I Cowboys should

512
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Speaker 1: win this game, but you say that hoping they lose,

513
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: so as you can criticize they don't believe. They don't

514
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: think they should win it because of any particular formula.

515
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: They just think they should win it because they see

516
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: all the talent on the team. Well, what you see

517
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: is we had the Gregories out. We haven't played with

518
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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. What you see is what we have on

519
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Speaker 1: the field. But what are we missing? And when that

520
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: depth is affected, you got new guys playing, You've got

521
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: other guys playing longer than they should. Now that five

522
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Speaker 1: and one, it's not as easy to achieve the next

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Speaker 1: six games. And that's what we're dealing with. And so

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00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: that's why you need to have gutsy wins. You need

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Speaker 1: to have coaches that understand that, which I believe our

526
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Speaker 1: coaches and our veteran players understand that this is an

527
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: extremely rare stretch of games, these three games. Now, how

528
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: we come out of this, to me, that's going to

529
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Speaker 1: tell how how we're going to go, how we're going

530
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: to to go into the playoffs. Right, it's how we

531
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: come out of this. And I love the challenge and

532
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: we could talk about it later on the NFC East

533
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: Challenge that's coming up for us right now. I think

534
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: it's perfect timing for us to show just what we

535
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: can do. And going back to Parsons, so talking about

536
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: that was his tenth sack, and they're thirteen NFL rookies

537
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: with ten plus sacks in a season. The Cowboys rookie

538
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: record sixteen games was was eight by where and then

539
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: and then overall, Harvey Martin and Willie Towns had I

540
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: believe it was nine, one in seventy three and the

541
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Speaker 1: other one in nineteen sixty six. Those were their rookie years.

542
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Speaker 1: So yeah, what he's done has been an awfully remarkable

543
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: and not playing defensive end full time, he did it

544
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of a fill in guy for what three three

545
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: games maybe, And now he's back at linebacker and and

546
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: I should have memorized this, but here's his line in

547
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: the game, five combined tackles, one sack, one tackle for

548
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: a loss, two quarterback hits, and he had that pass

549
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: covered downfield that ended up getting deflected and intercepted by Curse. Right,

550
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: that was a great play overall, He'll have a pass

551
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, he was gonna lay that thing

552
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: in there. Yeahs now, yeah, he ain't getting it there.

553
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: And for Jaylon, I mean he had digs there. Who

554
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: if he wasn't not a bounce, he probably would have

555
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: reached for it. And of course with Jaylon coach coming

556
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: up with such a heads up play, these young men

557
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: give up place, of course they do, but all their

558
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: minds and their eyes are always on the quarterback and

559
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: they seem to always be ready to make not just

560
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: a good play, but an amazing play. They're not just

561
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: satisfied with the knockdown. They're going for the great play.

562
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have a guy like Parsons

563
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: and you have a guy like j. N. Curse And

564
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: let's let's just be real. He has the same mentality

565
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: as any other player on this defense, no more, no less,

566
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Speaker 1: And that's what I like about it. We love Parstons

567
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: and how he approaches the game, but he's not the

568
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: only one that approaches it in that manner. And you

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00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: can see it on the field because Curses numbers are

570
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Speaker 1: always high as Parsons. Here's how high they were in

571
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: this game. Nine tackles, eight of those solo, two tackles

572
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Speaker 1: for losses, an interception, a pass defense, and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The first fumble was Anthony Brown, who led him with

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Speaker 1: ten tackles. By the way, Anthony Brown, Yes, So here

575
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Speaker 1: before we go to break, I noticed what the Saints

576
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: were doing with the Cowboys playing so much man. They

577
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: were playing these tight bunch for me with their receivers

578
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: and then they're crisscrossing and that's how they got him

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Speaker 1: on that one place. So what is the technique for

580
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: a cornerback when you've got these guys and do you

581
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: get away from playing man or do you just have

582
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: to fight through because it's not a pick. They're they're

583
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: actually using your other defender to pick off their teammates. Well,

584
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Speaker 1: you have to coordinate. You can't have both guys on.

585
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: You have to have one guy off, one guy on.

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00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: If you can have two guys off, then make sure

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Speaker 1: that the priority is the down and distance. If you're

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00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna play soft on someone, you don't

589
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: play soft on the guy going towards the end zone.

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: He play soft on the guy that wants to the

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Speaker 1: shortest route, and then you react up with so if

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Speaker 1: you're playing both off, it's almost like a zone technique,

593
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: but you're just end and out on two receivers. To me,

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00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: the best way to go, one guy up, one guy off.

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Speaker 1: You take care of him. He can't wherever he goes,

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Speaker 1: he goes you. You're gonna stop him from picking off

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Speaker 1: my defensive back, my fellow defensive back, because he's off

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and that gives him a chance

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Speaker 1: to read. Brown was the most susceptible from the from

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Speaker 1: the lineup, from the alignment, and from the lineup. He

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Speaker 1: should have known that that is a possibility. There's no

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Speaker 1: way you should get up. All of you guys get

603
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: up and the jam technique when you have a bunch formation.

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00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: That was a mistake from the beginning. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know why Brown even got up there in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Number two, every route that's hits you big, it's been inside, yes,

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Speaker 1: So just lineup off and inside. Let them have the sideline. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an eight ten yard route. You line up,

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Speaker 1: you play another down as opposed to a quick six

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Speaker 1: because if you don't get pressure and they've got that

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Speaker 1: much time to run from the right side of the formation.

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Speaker 1: Then we saw it last week with the Shawan Jackson right. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he goes all the way to the left side. That

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00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: makes a catch when you when you have a bunch formation.

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Speaker 1: Let's make sure we designate right away. You go up

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Speaker 1: on the lava screams, I'm off, you got your man,

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Speaker 1: I got my I'll play off of you. There you go.

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Speaker 1: their weekly media sessions started about nine minutes ago, so

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Speaker 1: we'll hear what they've had to say after we finished

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Speaker 1: the show. Dan Quinn getting a victory. Yes, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while since he's had a head because I think

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Speaker 1: they started off oh in five last year in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: That's why he ended up getting fired. But he's he's

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Speaker 1: he's kind of closing a few loops here. He right,

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Speaker 1: came back and beat uh Atlanta Bill Belichick. Oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing. Came back and beat Bill Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: And that was our first victory, he says, like eighty

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Speaker 1: six in mass and the Falcons beat the Falcons. That door.

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Speaker 1: Now as a head coach, as the head coach, you

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Speaker 1: one one and somehow they you know, we're able to

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Speaker 1: kind of as Mike McCarthy talked about on Friday, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody stepped up and did what they were

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Speaker 1: asked to do, and we're capable of doing it. With

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn, we talked about him doing both uh lounda

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Speaker 1: wells coaching the tight ends but also the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo going up top in the in the in

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Speaker 1: the coach's box. Uh So they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys as dan quib there's how did he put it?

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Speaker 1: No job that isn't your job, basically, he said when

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Speaker 1: he did his deal last week. And so uh, they

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Speaker 1: were able to survive that game, Uh, no matter how

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Speaker 1: ugly it was. But there are things the Cowboys got

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Speaker 1: to get better at and we know that, and one

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Speaker 1: of them is being able to effectively run the football

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Speaker 1: and continuing uh to struggle with that, and we pointed

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Speaker 1: out the yards they gained other than the two big plays.

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Speaker 1: To me, it comes down to, and Steven Jones said

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Speaker 1: it today on his radio segment, the offensive line has

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Speaker 1: to be better. It has to be more coordinated. They

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Speaker 1: need more continuity on the offensive line, and if that improves,

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Speaker 1: then the running game improves. And I hear everybody talking

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Speaker 1: about Dak and what's the problem. Well, if the offensive

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Speaker 1: line is not playing well on the run game, does

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Speaker 1: that mean, oh, but they're doing a heck of a

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Speaker 1: job protecting the quarterback and they're not. He is under

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Speaker 1: so much pressure every time he passes the ball. And

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Speaker 1: we've mentioned many times on the show before that that

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Speaker 1: Dak is one of the best. It's been noted that

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best quarterbacks in the pocket under pressure.

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Speaker 1: So that's one of those things that we should be

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Speaker 1: thankful for it because he's getting a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the touchdown that we scored on

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Speaker 1: the on the running play by Pollock, everyone did their

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Speaker 1: perfectly right. Not just talking about the offensive lineman. One

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Speaker 1: Believe Schultz turned someone outside and they stayed with their blocks.

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Speaker 1: And as I looked at all of it, the offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman on the left side, they shielded off people with

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Speaker 1: yards down the field and was still had contact with him.

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Speaker 1: We talked about maintaining and continuing contact as an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: That's the toughness that they need. It's not coordination. You

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Speaker 1: have to whip that man and not just the initial contact,

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Speaker 1: but stick with the contract as you drive through. That's

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Speaker 1: how other teams are able to take average backs and

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Speaker 1: get above average George. And that's why we have these

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Speaker 1: I will often sublimel are not staying with their blocks

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Speaker 1: typical of how you're supposed to block a successful running play,

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Speaker 1: and he shocked him with his speed to thim. Yes,

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Speaker 1: of a sudden he goes, oh, no, I'm losing ground here.

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Speaker 1: He's tried to play it safe. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: he was doing. This is the guy that every once

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Speaker 1: he was the guy that's supposed to make the interception.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do either. He didn't want to commit passing offense,

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to hit hit the guy too soon,

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Speaker 1: and and he didn't do anything and ended up losing

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Speaker 1: one of the bigger games in Saints of history. So

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Speaker 1: he's had that that that knack to do something like that.

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Speaker 1: But consistently on both sides, we have been inconsistent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we talked about versus the run, we know what Taysom

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Speaker 1: was tired and boy, they just that's one of those

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Speaker 1: games you just gotta gut it out, but we were

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Speaker 1: still in that process. We were still consistent in giving

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Speaker 1: up too many running yards and big plays in the

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Speaker 1: passing game too. And he wasn't throwing the ball very

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Speaker 1: well either, but too many big plays in the in

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Speaker 1: the running game. Um, you know, he's got a long

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Speaker 1: or twenty four yards that on that one player, and

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Speaker 1: that's the one he hurdled. Whoever he hurdled that was.

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Speaker 1: So when when quarterbacks do that? As a defensive guy,

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Speaker 1: do you just like, I'm gonna get that. I'm just

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Speaker 1: Casey's like smaller than me, and Taysom's like two hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty pounds, so he ain't gonna get nobody unless

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Speaker 1: he's not looking right. So all he has to do

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Speaker 1: just keep on making plays. And I must admit I

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Speaker 1: as can be under these tough situations. I thought Cheltz

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Speaker 1: he made some catches for us that kept the chains

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Speaker 1: moving right. And I know Dad put it in there tight,

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Speaker 1: but you still gotta go get it. And watching him

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Speaker 1: make some of those big plays on those out routes

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Speaker 1: against a very good strong safety and Jenkins. That's something

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Speaker 1: that you just can't take for granted. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you see Marty Cooper come in, we know he's hobbling,

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Speaker 1: meaning physically. I don't mean that he's you know, got

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Speaker 1: knee problems, a lower leg problem. Just you know, when

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Speaker 1: you come into a game like that, you gotta be

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Speaker 1: a little cloudy after missing two games from COVID, right

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Speaker 1: and just man, the dad threw that thing up there

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Speaker 1: and he just he plucked it out like he just

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Speaker 1: Just the way he just reached up and got it.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing you just can't take for granted,

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Speaker 1: but we do. And having that luxury, that's something that

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Speaker 1: Dak realizes he has. That's something his coaches realized. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's why the panicking right now, because

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Speaker 1: that's the guts that you show, the consistency from those

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Speaker 1: those players. That's what you need in a game like this,

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Speaker 1: because he could be easily going, oh man, show's not

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Speaker 1: catching it today. Oh man, they go cool, he's not

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Speaker 1: ready to day now. But they didn't give you that

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Speaker 1: and the and the guys they had coming back Tyrn Smith,

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Speaker 1: practicing that much. You mentioned CD coming back, Amari coming

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Speaker 1: guy that was playing his first game in quite some time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And he had two tackles, he had a tackle for

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Speaker 1: a loss and two uh two Uh he actually had

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Speaker 1: two passes defense to the line of scrimmage in thirty

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Speaker 1: four seven snaps. Yeah. So, uh so you got to

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Speaker 1: back to practicing in they have consistency. Now we have

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Speaker 1: ten days to get ready for the next game, and

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Speaker 1: you've got these players that are going to capitalize and

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Speaker 1: they've had enough rest because they had basically Friday, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Sunday off. Get back in here today lightly and then

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Speaker 1: get back to practicing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, when you got

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Speaker 1: your job and get me to get the report, the

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Speaker 1: one will come out on Wednesday, Wednesday after our show.

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Speaker 1: So um so that's where they're at going forward. Eight

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Speaker 1: and four, still two game lead in the NFC East

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Speaker 1: and now the showdown with Washington that we will get

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Speaker 1: into tomorrow in depth on a team that has won

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Speaker 1: four consecutive games after starting your own babies, I believe

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