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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we always know to knock

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Speaker 1: the ball down at the goal line.

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Speaker 2: On Hail Mary. I'm rolling around here in the Chris.

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Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio with Patrick claybah Nick Shook.

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Speaker 2: Joining us from Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: And Yes, this is one of those days that as

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Speaker 1: the witching hour hit in the early window of games,

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Speaker 1: Scott Hansen's going nuts. I'm going nuts. There were so

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Speaker 1: many good games. I was like, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: game we could possibly start the show with, and then

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Speaker 1: a game in a moment just presents itself to us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing is, there's so much that we

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Speaker 4: And for those of you who were finding this out

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Speaker 4: on the podcast, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to the call. Then right off the path,

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Speaker 2: let's do.

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Speaker 4: It the eight deep for we get the goal on

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Speaker 4: they bring three. Dabel's backing up. He's just gonna the one.

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Speaker 4: Flaw goes to the white song, steps away from.

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Speaker 3: The defenders, gives himself some time now, steps up, fires

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Speaker 3: heads towards the end zone.

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Speaker 4: It is talking about the ball, does just about hell

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Speaker 4: hell yes, Blood and Fletcher.

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Speaker 2: Blood and Fletcher Hell Mary Hell Yes, that.

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Speaker 1: Was Bram Weinstein and yeah, London Fletcher w b I

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Speaker 1: d with talking about our Dodgers here in Los Angeles there.

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Speaker 2: I think I could.

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Speaker 1: Barely hear it over the screaming and yelling some pop.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jaden Daniels finds Noah.

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Speaker 1: Brown after a deflection up a few hands, but Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Stevenson was jumping in there at the end for the Bears.

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Speaker 1: And it goes to Noah Brown and the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 1: and what is turning out to be an absolutely magical

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Speaker 1: year win eighteen to fifteen. And when I saw this happen,

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Speaker 1: and my first thought was kind of like, ball, don't lie.

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Speaker 1: There was not a bad call in this game, and

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Speaker 1: yet they were the better team all day.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, the right team kind of won.

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Speaker 1: And it was also the right team because I picked

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Speaker 1: them in Patrick Claven did yees And.

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Speaker 3: So congratulations to Washington Commanders. Fans will celebrate that play

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Speaker 3: in that moment for the rest of your lives. It's

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Speaker 3: because I picked the Bears and stuck with them, which

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Speaker 3: felt like a great picnic considering the way that the

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Speaker 3: game was going, where the Bears could do absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams had four completions late in the second half,

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Speaker 3: but then DeAndre Swift goes on a fifty plus yard

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Speaker 3: touchdown run. They come out the next drive, they go

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Speaker 3: nine plays eighty four yards, and then for some reason,

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Speaker 3: unbeknownst to everybody on the planet except for him and

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Speaker 3: a backup offensive lineman Shane Waldron, calls a play oh

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Speaker 3: and gives the ball to Doug Kramer in the on

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Speaker 3: the one yard line. He fumbles and the Commander's recover

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Speaker 3: somehow the Bears get back down there. Caleb Williams leads

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Speaker 3: a drive, they take the lead, and then history happens.

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Speaker 3: But just a very odd game with some odd decisions.

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Speaker 3: Either team could have won literally to the final seconds,

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Speaker 3: but Washington, you know, gets the miracle that will remember

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Speaker 1: Did you scream in Cleveland, Nick Schuck when that happened?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes I did. I screamed almost at the top

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Speaker 5: of my lungs while sitting here in my office in

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Speaker 4: Yes I did.

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Speaker 5: And you're right, Greg, I think you hit the nail

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Speaker 5: right on the head there. It felt like Washington was

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Speaker 5: the better team, and when Chicago scored, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this is a rotal loss for them because they've outplayed

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Speaker 5: them for the majority of this game. And then Jalen

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Speaker 5: drops back and throws to Hail Mary. That sends the

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Speaker 5: broadcasters into just shouting, like just undecipherable shouting, pure euphoria

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Speaker 5: in the form of football. That is the beauty of

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Speaker 5: this game. You know, how can you not love this

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Speaker 5: you know, an interesting week for Jalen. He gets hurt

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Speaker 5: that rib. You know, I don't know if he's got

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Speaker 5: it in him to make that throw. Let's get the

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Speaker 5: offensively defensively. Let you forgot to leave a guy behind

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Speaker 5: there at Bears and the Commander's magical season continues.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sick of these teams not sending extra rushers

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Speaker 1: on these hail maryors. Yes, think it's better and Bears

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Speaker 1: there was a hole towards the end of the play.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the worst hold I've ever seen. Calm down

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Speaker 1: He held onto the ball for almost thirteen seconds. It

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Speaker 1: Daniels some credit obviously for this, not just that it

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Speaker 2: Because there was a moment a little earlier in.

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Speaker 1: That play, probably after he held the ball about six

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Speaker 1: That takes some supreme confidence, and yes, it takes a

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Speaker 1: little bit of luck on a day where he just

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Speaker 1: was so athletic. You said we could talk a lot

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Speaker 1: about just that play alone. What do you want to

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Speaker 3: Well, ultimately, which film review is going to show a

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Speaker 3: lot before the Before the play, Tyreek Stevenson is over

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Speaker 3: we saw on the Rogers hil Mary where the Bills

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Speaker 3: calamity of errors for the Bears, where in a game

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Speaker 1: Right, and and it hurts so much because this game

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Speaker 1: felt like it meant a lot to the Bears, certainly

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Speaker 1: I thought Caleb was a little scattershow in the game,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Bears did not play well

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Speaker 2: A great throw earlier.

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Speaker 1: tough race in the NFC North, Nick like the game

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Speaker 1: situational football by Washington to eventually get the winn. And

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Speaker 1: it hurts because man, the Bears hadn't given up a

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Speaker 1: they hadn't given up a touchdown until that last play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much everything had to fall the right order.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they had had that one time out to

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Speaker 5: But it all comes down to two rules that I

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Speaker 5: which is one, never rush three We've talked about that before,

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Speaker 5: hail Mary. I mean, look, guys, how often do we

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Speaker 5: doesn't happen offense. We really have to appreciate this, not

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Speaker 5: it was an amazing hill Mary.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's a win that puts the Commanders at

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Speaker 1: six and two. They're in a good division race. The

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Speaker 1: Bears are going to need every last one of these ones,

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Speaker 1: and it felt like they were going to steal one.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Dan Quinn on that final play.

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Speaker 6: Look, Jayden did a fantastic job of, you know, buying time,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long the play was, maybe you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I felt every bit of them.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Patrick just showed me the vision of

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels's movement in this game early, I know they

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Speaker 1: He is just a special player. So Caleb's gonna get there.

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Speaker 1: He's been great and he had some good runs today

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Speaker 1: and DeAndre Swift helps out and everything, But Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 2: That's like the level that he's playing at.

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Speaker 3: And the whole field is in play with Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 2: It's pretty great, and I got it. It is pretty great.

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Speaker 2: Who glado look that kind of day in Washington.

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Speaker 1: One fan who said that's been there to every single

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Speaker 10: If you're the Cleveland brown one, pay to get a

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Speaker 11: You gotta think twenty four yards, let's go three seconds, this.

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Speaker 4: Is it for the win.

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Speaker 2: Makes some noise, We're every you can hear the.

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Speaker 11: Twenty four yard nine shut guns rounds up, twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: No, God it cook Ude, The Crowns Will twenty nine,

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Speaker 4: You knew it, you felt it.

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Speaker 2: So many things happening this game, they're unexplainable. Let it

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Speaker 4: Just thought of it.

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Speaker 1: What a call one of the calls of the year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I still think they're the best, but this was

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Jamis on the podium talking about those

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Speaker 14: Man, there's a there's a white boy from Detroit that

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Speaker 14: I really admired and m He said, you only get

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Speaker 2: In a lifetime.

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Speaker 14: And I know I got a quote, you know, Eminem

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Speaker 4: But man, I'm just grateful.

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Speaker 14: I'm grateful that the Lord prouded me with this opportunity.

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Speaker 4: His soul is escaping through the hole that is gaping.

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Speaker 3: It's tough to It's tough, Greg's it's really tough. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to credit CBS for that postgame interview,

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Speaker 1: Then it is passed down through generations Nick and who knows,

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Speaker 1: maybe Jameis Winston will too as a Browns quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Three thirty four and three touchdowns. He's your future now, I.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, competent and considering the investment. Much like the forty

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy to me if Jamis Winston plays well

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Speaker 1: bittersweet note. We've had so many Jim Donovan calls over

437
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Speaker 1: the years on the Around the NFL podcast, and now

438
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Speaker 1: we're here as the NFL Daily Podcast, and I think

439
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Speaker 1: about that that great Brown's victory, which is the second

440
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Speaker 1: to last show that Chris Ever did on the show.

441
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Speaker 1: That's very emotional for Mark on the show. Love seeing

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Speaker 1: the Browns getting that win. And so many different great

443
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Speaker 1: calls over the year. Let's listen before we go to

444
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Speaker 1: the next game, to one other great Jim Donovan call.

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Speaker 10: Mayfield under center, second down in ten takes the snap,

446
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Speaker 10: gives it Bruns.

447
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Speaker 2: He's in a tenth fifteen, He's in.

448
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Speaker 10: The twenty twenty five, thirty, thirty five, forty, forty.

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Speaker 13: Five, fifty there ghost Jim hes in the thirty twenty

450
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Speaker 13: down five touchdown shop Alahap.

451
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Speaker 2: Ninety two yards.

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Speaker 4: Pretty unbelievable. He has a second gear.

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Speaker 3: I just got hit more by you than I did

454
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Speaker 3: it by fourteen years in the NFL.

455
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Speaker 2: Oh what play?

456
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Speaker 1: That was the longest run in Brown's history, called by

457
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Speaker 1: the great Jim Donovan, Rest in peace.

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Speaker 5: When I joined the Browns in twenty nineteen, was there

459
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Speaker 5: for about a year. You know, there's a lot of

460
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Speaker 5: new faces, a lot of people that I got to

461
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Speaker 5: know very well. But nobody was kinder to me and

462
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Speaker 5: more welcoming to me when I showed up than Jim Donovan.

463
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Speaker 5: This is the guy I grew up listening to you

464
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Speaker 5: know on Brown's radio since nineteen ninety nine. I mean,

465
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Speaker 5: I remember when he called, you know a hail married

466
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Speaker 5: Kevin for the Browns first woman. They came back as

467
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Speaker 5: an expansion team over the Saints in the Superdome. Meeting

468
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Speaker 5: him was like a dream come true. Getting to know him,

469
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Speaker 5: becoming friends with him is even better. We'd be in

470
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Speaker 5: the locker room, he'd come up and just asked me

471
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Speaker 5: about an upcoming opponent and getting my take. He loved

472
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Speaker 5: the talk, He loved football, he loved people, and he

473
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Speaker 5: loved Cleveland, and when I left to come back here,

474
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Speaker 5: he was one of the first people to make an

475
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Speaker 5: emphatic statement of congratulations and best of luck. And he

476
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Speaker 5: took time when I worked on a feature about the

477
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Speaker 5: city of Cleveland a head of the draft. This is

478
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Speaker 5: a massive loss for the community. I know he stepped

479
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Speaker 5: away this year, but he will not be forgotten anytime soon.

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Speaker 5: He was a fantastic individil and it explains all the

481
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Speaker 5: emotion I'm feeling it right now that people had in

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Speaker 5: that stadium today. So rest in peace. He will be

483
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Speaker 5: forever missed.

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Speaker 1: Well said Nick. Let's go to our next game, and yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: rest in peace. Jim Donovan wheeling.

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Speaker 4: Down on one knee, arm extend and here's the standard.

487
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Speaker 4: Let's been made. The kick is up.

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Speaker 2: Man is God.

489
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Speaker 4: For a second week in a row.

490
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Speaker 2: Brandon Manas delivers the dagger and the.

491
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Speaker 7: Packers have defeated the Jaguars thirty to twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was a wild day. That was way Wayne

493
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Speaker 1: Larvie on wr.

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Speaker 4: In W.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 1: Game winning dagger from Brandon McManus again, set up by

497
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Speaker 1: Malik Willis, a fifty one yard pass. Unfortunately, Jordan Love

498
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Speaker 1: gets hurt again. He has a groin injury. More on

499
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Speaker 1: that in a bit, But Patrick Malik Willis comes in,

500
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Speaker 1: has a couple of runs that are important, and then yes,

501
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Speaker 1: an important throw to Jayden Reid to set up that

502
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Speaker 1: game winner. They're finding ways to win no matter who's

503
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Speaker 1: that quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Packers were down thirteen to ten when

505
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Speaker 3: Malik Willis comes into that game. Jordan Love injured himself

506
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Speaker 3: rolling to his right early on in the game. He's

507
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Speaker 3: kind of hobbling, not kind of, he was clearly limping

508
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Speaker 3: handing the ball off. They did have a couple of

509
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Speaker 3: scoring drops. I had a good ball to Romeo Dobbs

510
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Speaker 3: as well. But late this was Milik Willis making plays,

511
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Speaker 3: including a fifty one yarder to Jayden Reid in the

512
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Speaker 3: closing moments to set up that Brandon McManus field goal,

513
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Speaker 3: and also a huge play by Devonte Wyatt to get

514
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Speaker 3: to a strip sack of Trevor Lawrence late in the

515
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Speaker 3: game that set the Packers up deep in Jags territory

516
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Speaker 3: where it was really because so many times it's like, oh,

517
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Speaker 3: you know, you just wanted it more, and you say that,

518
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Speaker 3: it's like this guy's out there trying hard, but this

519
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 3: was really an explosive effort to beat the Jags to

520
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Speaker 3: that ball and to get it back. But again, having

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Speaker 3: a solid, young backup quarterback that could come in on

522
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Speaker 3: the road in these situations to get a win. It

523
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Speaker 3: makes me think of an AFC South team that probably

524
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Speaker 3: wouldn't mind to have Milik Willis watching him again do

525
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Speaker 3: it against another squad as he did against his former team,

526
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Speaker 3: the Titans earlier this year.

527
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Speaker 2: And it's coaching too, like it.

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Speaker 1: If Milik Willis was in Tennessee, wouldn't be having the

529
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Speaker 1: success if he was in Miami.

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Speaker 2: So a wonder can coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be having this success because Mike

532
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Speaker 1: McDaniel doesn't seem to be able to know how to

533
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Speaker 1: make it translate, and yet they do.

534
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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Matt Lafleur talk about Jordan Love's injury

536
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Speaker 1: because obviously that's a big takeaway from this game.

537
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Speaker 6: No idea, but obviously high level of concern anytime a

538
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Speaker 6: guy's in there, and he did it early in that

539
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 6: first drive, and I think you guys, I think everybody

540
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Speaker 6: could see him struggling to move around, and I just

541
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Speaker 6: got to a point where we didn't feel like and

542
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Speaker 6: he didn't feel like he could protect himself. So I

543
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 6: went with Malik, And can't say enough great things about

544
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Speaker 6: Malik willis the job that he's able to do to

545
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Speaker 6: go in there. You know, the moment's never too big

546
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Speaker 6: for him. And he made a lot of big time

547
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Speaker 6: plays in this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Jacobs did to one hundred and twenty seven

549
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Speaker 1: yards on the ground, a couple of touchdowns. Tucker Kraft

550
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Speaker 1: gets it done with another long score in this game.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the heroes that have been helping the

552
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Speaker 1: Packers get to six and two shook like Xavier McKinney

553
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Speaker 1: within an interception helps him get a win here. And

554
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: this win feels even bigger because they have the Lions

555
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Speaker 1: next week and we'll see it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see about love.

557
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Speaker 1: But in this division, you want to be banking those

558
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Speaker 1: wins as much as possible, especially if you're not going

559
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Speaker 1: to be you know, having your quarterback out there.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, any game where you gave up the lead late,

562
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Speaker 5: you had to fight back to take the lead, then

563
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 5: it looked like you were gonna run away with it

564
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Speaker 5: or at least you know, kind of coast to the

565
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Speaker 5: finish line, and all of a sudden, it's a tie

566
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Speaker 5: of ball game because of a great drive by Trevor Lawrence,

567
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 5: which we can get to in a second, because he

568
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 5: looked pretty good. But you know, you make the point

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Speaker 5: about coaching. I think this is the most impressive Malik

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Speaker 5: Willis appearance of the season because he had to do

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Speaker 5: it in the middle of the game. They didn't have

572
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Speaker 5: all week to build a game plan around his strengths,

573
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Speaker 5: you know, according to the team they were playing. He

574
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 5: just had to come in and figure it out. He

575
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Speaker 5: ends up going four for five for fifty six yards

576
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Speaker 5: in a touchdown pass and he makes a phenomenal throw

577
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Speaker 5: down the sideline to set up the end up the

578
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 5: eventual game winning field goal. I mean he also took

579
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Speaker 5: off with his legs to keep drives going. These are

580
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: things that he's kind of gaining confidence as he plays

581
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Speaker 5: more and realizes, look, these are my strengths, these are

582
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: my weaknesses, and this is what I should do within

583
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: the game. And now he's not overwhelmed anymore. So I

584
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Speaker 5: know he's still a backup quarterback, but I was just

585
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Speaker 5: very impressed by how he was able to step in

586
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Speaker 5: and they didn't really miss a beat. They were able

587
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 5: to fight back, take the lead, and end up winning

588
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: the game. Really really resounding, you know, statistically kind of

589
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 5: short appearance, but resounding appearance for him.

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Speaker 4: On Sunday, Yeah, and it was you mentioned that Examer.

591
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Speaker 3: You guys both talked about that Xavier McKinney interception could

592
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: have wound up being the difference in this game. Where

593
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior is running a clear out, trev looks

594
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Speaker 3: up and thinks that x is are going to go

595
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: with the speedy rookie, but McKinney hesitates, comes back across

596
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Speaker 3: his body and picks off a pass intended for Christian Kirk.

597
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Speaker 3: And the Jacks had to come back in this game

598
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Speaker 3: without Christian Kirk because there was a deep ball down

599
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: the middle of the field that got punched out late.

600
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Speaker 3: Christian Kirk lands directly on his shoulder, was on the

601
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Speaker 3: ground writhing in pain. It was it shook points out

602
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: another solid trev game where it was aside from that

603
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: play in the strip sack, this is what you want

604
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Speaker 3: from Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: They've got a good offense. I think we can officially

606
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Speaker 1: stamp it. They're a good offense for years.

607
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, especially when Tank Bixby ends up, you know,

608
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: carrying the load in the backfield. And Brian Thomas is

609
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 5: having a great rookie year, and Christian Kirk makes an impact,

610
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Speaker 5: but it all starts with Trevor, and a lot of

611
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 5: it before was Trevor not being consistently accurate, just near

612
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 5: misses here and near missus. They're a bad pick or

613
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: two in a game. He shook off a bad pick

614
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 5: in this game because they picked off Jordan Love and

615
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 5: then he instantly gives the ball right back to them.

616
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Speaker 5: Right he is able to come back from that. They

617
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Speaker 5: didn't have a first down until inside six minutes left

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Speaker 5: in the first half. Yeah, and they wake up all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden. He leads a touchdown drive, they lead

620
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Speaker 5: a field goal drive. Suddenly they're right back in the game.

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Speaker 5: He picks up where he left off in the second half,

622
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Speaker 5: and then they need a touchdown late and he goes

623
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Speaker 5: down the field again. It was frantic, but it was

624
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 5: kind of electric, Like I love seeing trev cook when

625
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 5: they didn't have a lot of time and the pressure

626
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: was on because in many situations he's wilted in the past.

627
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: So look, they're still two and six they have a

628
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 5: long way to go and everything else, But I, for

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Speaker 5: the first time in a while, feel kind of good

630
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Speaker 5: about his outlook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

632
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Offensively, sure, but he's having these good games. Then Yeah,

633
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: then the other team scores thirty and it just feels

634
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: like a long march.

635
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: But you never know.

636
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas was a great first pick, ends up with

637
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: three for sixty and a touchdown. Some outstanding plays within

638
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: there not a lot to feel good about.

639
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: Offensively.

640
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Speaker 1: We will see about Jordan Love and hopefully he can

641
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: get healthy for that Lions game next week. We're just

642
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: getting started here on NFL Daily. Oh, good games to

643
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: start with. Yeah, let's start rolling through that early window

644
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: when Scott Hansen was just like losing his mind.

645
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: We'll hit those games after the break. Cousins works in

646
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: a pistol.

647
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Speaker 7: Here, five claps and he gets a snap. You gonna

648
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 7: rip it for pants caught Kylen Stride twenty five, twenty fifteen,

649
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: ten five touchdown, The ball got knocked, loosers, pitch broke

650
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 7: the line. Oh this is close, this is really close.

651
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 7: They awarded him the touchdown.

652
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: That sigh of relief you heard from Tampa was from

653
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. It was from West Durham. It was from

654
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Dave Archer on w zg C. Yeah, that was a

655
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: forty nine yard touchdown catch where Kyle Pitts looked about

656
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: as fast as we've seen him since his rookie year,

657
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: but he lets up a little.

658
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: Bit at the end and Antoine Winfield he did it again.

659
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: He's he saved the Buccaneers season, I thought last year

660
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: with a play very similar to that against the Panthers

661
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: with about three weeks left of the season got them

662
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. And I understand why they couldn't overturn

663
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: it because there wasn't a totally clear view. But I

664
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: bet Bucks fans and people that picked him to win

665
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: this game like me, believe he got that ball out

666
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: before they got it over the goal line and just

667
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: couldn't overturn it. The Falcons hang on for a thirty

668
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: one to twenty six victory on a day shook where

669
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: you can just plug it in before the game even starts.

670
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield ends up with three touchdowns and two interceptions,

671
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: and somehow that's like super flattering to how he actually played. Meanwhile,

672
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, you might as well punch it in before

673
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: the game starts too. When he plays Todd Bowles lights

674
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: him up for four touchdowns. Kirk co is on fire

675
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: against this Bucks team.

676
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what kills me though about the

677
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: Falcons and not to put a damper on a win.

678
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: Nothing is easy with this team. It's a shootout of sorts.

679
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: In the first half, they pull away, it looks like

680
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: they're going to pull away at least, you know, they

681
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: go up by a couple scores, and then they let

682
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: it get close late because Baker does the same thing

683
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 5: he did a week ago after throwing two picks. Suddenly

684
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 5: he leads a comeback charge and they're in position to

685
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 5: potentially tie the game or maybe win the game. This

686
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 5: time they fall short. But it's just like young way

687
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: Ku miss is a field goal on. I'm just like Falcons,

688
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 5: come on for once, just make it a little bit easy.

689
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 5: That doesn't cast any sort of paul over the day

690
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 5: that Kirk Cousins had because he was excellent for the

691
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: vast majority of it, hooking up a Darnell Mooney for

692
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: a touchdown, Kyle Pitts Bijon Robinson. This offense was humming.

693
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 5: It's a good win for them in the division. But

694
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 5: my God, guys, make it a little bit easier on me.

695
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: You know, I already lost my hair. But make it

696
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 5: a lot easier on me.

697
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: Why just because you're writing it up or whatever and

698
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: you want it to be simple.

699
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Don't you want good football games? Shook?

700
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: No, I want a good football team to finish strong.

701
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: Are they a good football team?

702
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 5: I don't know.

703
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: We'll never know if it keeps. Because I've had the

704
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: same experience Nick did. We're you know, doing all the

705
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: doing all these different games. I look up, Okay, I

706
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about the falcon all right anymore.

707
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: I can pay attention to the rest of the games.

708
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: Then I look back up and there goes Bucky irving

709
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: on like and it's like, what where? Where's the consistency?

710
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: Like they needed a Jesse Bates incredible interception, uh to

711
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: keep this comeback from from even being more of a comeback.

712
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: Right Ku miss is a kick which he's done in

713
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: big spots a handful of times this year that the

714
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: safety was just a ridiculous play. Baker, I think is

715
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: costing this team. But I'm glad you mentioned Jesse Bates.

716
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: I just think it has to be mentioned. Starts the

717
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: game off with incredible peanut punch and then you know

718
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: caps it late with a beautiful interception. That just aren't

719
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: many safeties doing it like this. This team, I don't

720
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: think they're a good team. They do have a lot

721
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: are really good players, most of them are on offense.

722
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: It's not a good defense. It's the worst pass rush

723
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL statistically and by the eye test.

724
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: But my god, Jesse Bates is worth like a couple

725
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: wins alone. When when it's Antoine Winfield and Jesse Bates

726
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: going at it, it's like the best safety on safety

727
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: matchup in the NFL.

728
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 5: Yes, the clash of the safeties, and Baker Mayfield had

729
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: to pay for it a couple of times in this game.

730
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 5: You know, I do want to talk more about him because, please,

731
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: let's face it, he's he's operating without his top two receivers.

732
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: He's forced to play with the likes of you know,

733
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: Jalen McMillan, and you know, he's throwing his running backs

734
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: a lot, and he's throwing a Trey Palmer and like

735
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: Kate Otten's going off because he's probably his best target.

736
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 5: He had nine for eighty one and two touchdowns today

737
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: on National tight End Day. It's a shout out to you.

738
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: You got to got to pay a fine for mentioning that.

739
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: So oh no, well fine, I was ready to have

740
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: a pre show meeting and just say that rule, but

741
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I just figured everyone would understand.

742
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: But thank you too late.

743
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: I'm in jail. I'm in jail. I'm out for the

744
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: just silence me.

745
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: No.

746
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: But Baker also like missus, and he doesn't have as

747
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 5: much of a rapport with guys, and he's you know, energetic,

748
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: aggressive Baker, and he's always going to put his pedal

749
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: to the floor and get after it and it's going

750
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: to cost them. And it's kind of where he's been

751
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: the last couple weeks because you took Mike Evans out

752
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 5: of the equation and you took Chris Godwin out of

753
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 5: the equation, and he's operating with less than a full deck.

754
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: So this is kind of the outcome that I think

755
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 5: Bucks fans are probably gonna want to have to expect

756
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 5: from this offense for at least the next few weeks,

757
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 5: if not the rest of the season, and hopefully it

758
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 5: doesn't produce close losses like this.

759
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they now have the tie break obviously over the

760
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Buccaneers and the lead in the division.

761
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: It's a massive win for them.

762
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they can try to figure out their

763
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: weaknesses as they march towards the playoffs, because this is

764
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: an awful division with two of the worst teams in

765
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: the NFL in it, and you've already swept the other

766
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: team that's in the division. I want to watch this

767
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: game closer later. But you know, one of my working

768
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: theories lately is that Baker Mayfield's a problem for this team.

769
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Actually everything.

770
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 5: You live, you live and die by him what it is,

771
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: because he actually had a nice first half until the

772
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 5: picks started piling up, and you live and die by him.

773
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: But I think I think he's being set up for

774
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: success in a really meaningful way. I think the scheme,

775
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: it's getting guys open. They're protecting him well in the inconsistency,

776
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: and that's just Baker. I guess, like, why would you

777
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: expect it to be different? But don't sell me on

778
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: that it is different. It's right, it's right there on

779
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: the Dalton scale line, except I'd rather have someone like

780
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, who you kind of know what you're getting,

781
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: versus someone that's like over for a quarter and then

782
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: sinking you for a quarter. Patrick disagrees because he has

783
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: them in the MVP race.

784
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 4: Still, No, it's just tough.

785
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: It's tough to win those games where you're you're going out,

786
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: and we celebrate right players making plays like Jade Daniels

787
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: did it today or we saw Josh Allen talk about

788
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: him in a little bit. Yeah, and it's just like

789
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: Andy Dalton isn't doing that.

790
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: It's just Andy Dalton.

791
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: Baker's two interceptions that.

792
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: Came today on deep passes, you know, the one that's

793
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: going to Miller, right, it's a whole lot different if

794
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 3: that's if that's Evans.

795
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: The mist to McMillan. There's just it's just a little scattershot.

796
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: It's a little crazy. Maybe just not my style. Kirk

797
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Cousin's getting it done. Still, never move in the pocket,

798
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: never having a problem in this division. He's just standing

799
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: firm and he's making a Habit really says something about

800
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: his arm talent and his veteran savvy. He's seen a

801
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: lot and he's he's seeing this Bolls defense. By the way,

802
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Bulls just driving Bucks fans a little crazy. After the

803
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: game when he's like, hey, it's just the same stuff

804
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: we're always running. It's not basically saying like I'm not

805
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: adding anything fancy that they can't execute. It's just our

806
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: execution because we're running the same stuff that we usually

807
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: do well.

808
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: That's part of the problem.

809
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: You're running the same stuff that you usually do and

810
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: it never works against this team. It's never really working

811
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: this year in general, but it's definitely not working against

812
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Let's go to New England, where not many

813
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: things were working consistently, but it was pretty fun.

814
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: Smith is in the backfield line up as a fullback.

815
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: Stevens in the jail back. Henry motions left the right

816
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: Prishett hands a Kiver moderiate.

817
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 13: He runs into the right shock got it pauses ony

818
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 13: of the episode and.

819
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: The lead touchdown Patriots. It's a big point shot by

820
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: Jacoby Persett. It robers disbeliegue.

821
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 7: The Jets have choked another game away.

822
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: I want to put that out of the potential cause

823
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: of the year. Choked another gave away. There was twenty

824
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: two seconds left of the game.

825
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: There's plenty of time for Rogers after they kicked the

826
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: touchback to make a couple plays, but he didn't. He

827
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: was up and down all day, Jacoby Pressett was mostly

828
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: just up. That was a big boy drive. That was

829
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: the drive of the Patriots season, seventy yards in twelve

830
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: plays in under three minutes to stick a touchdown on

831
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: the Jets to win the game. They hit the two

832
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: point conversion as well. Yes, Prissette was in the game

833
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: for an injured Drake May who took a hard hit

834
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: to the head and was ruled out with a concussion.

835
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: And I was for Jacobi Brissett as as a Patriots

836
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: fan and as a person because he just seems like

837
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: one of the best dudes possible. Let's actually listen to

838
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette before we get the conversation started after the

839
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: game on the podium.

840
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 15: As no redemption. You know, I think this is a

841
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 15: testament to me believing in myself and not y'all. And

842
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 15: I'm very aware of that, and you know, I was.

843
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 15: I was very fortunate that, you know, to have this

844
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 15: opportunity and to go out there and you know and

845
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 15: get a win, you know, with our guys. You know,

846
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 15: it was you know sweet. I mean, you can't put

847
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 15: it into words, but you know, I'm not trying to

848
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 15: like be arrogant nothing, but I'm very proud of myself today.

849
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: It's so funny because he wasn't being remotely arrogant, and

850
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: like he's such like a humble, self effacing guy that

851
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: he's even saying, like I'm not trying to be arrogant,

852
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: Like we we are giving you this one.

853
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette, this was Patriots super Bowl.

854
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: If you could pick one game on the entire rest

855
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: of the schedule to win, and it might be the

856
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: only win on the entire rest of the schedule, this

857
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: would be the game because you are dragging your rival

858
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Jets into the Meyer. Except it feels even worse if

859
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: you're you know, the Jets, because the expectations are so

860
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: much higher. They're both two and six. The difference is

861
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots feel good about their young quarterback. They're disappointed

862
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: that he got hurt in this game, But for anyone

863
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: that didn't watch this game close, they wouldn't blame you.

864
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: There was a lot of good games in the early

865
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: one dy.

866
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: If you look at Brissett's stat line twenty five or

867
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: fifteen for twenty four one pint thirty two, it's like, oh,

868
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: it's kind of like Jacoby at the beginning of the year,

869
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: No zero running game help. Other than that touchdown run,

870
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: they just couldn't get it done. Their running backs went

871
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: twenty five for fifty six in this game. The drops

872
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: were absolutely insane. I counted six to seven drops. Almost

873
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: all of them would have been for first downs. Most

874
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: of them are on really good throws. There was a

875
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: holding penalty that called back one of Brissett's best plays,

876
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: which is forty yards.

877
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: Down the field.

878
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 1: The drops started with Drake Bay, but they mostly were

879
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: with Jacoby Verssett, and then the throw that Jacoby had

880
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: to Kishon Boody, who's like their best receiver, which is

881
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: hilarious on the final drive came on a blitz where

882
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: he's taking a hit right in the leg as he's

883
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: delivering at thirty four yards downfield. It was a really

884
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: good performance. He gave them mature quarterback play. I think

885
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: Drake May would have done well too. He started off

886
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: the game well because they were getting protected. And if

887
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: you protect your quarterbacks like these two quarterbacks show and

888
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: they can do it. It's a bad sign for the

889
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: Jets though, that they offered so little resistance to this

890
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: passing game.

891
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 4: Patrick. Yeah.

892
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: The Jets also saw the best runner on the day,

893
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: which was Drake may finished up right as the almost

894
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: the leading rusher on how many three for forty six

895
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: on seventeen fewer carries the Monterrey Stevenson three for forty

896
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: six yards and that touchdown that came on the opening drive,

897
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: leading us to the question are the Jets soft now?

898
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 9: Is?

899
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: Yes?

900
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: Is Softgate effectively over?

901
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Did girod Mayo not make the players sad and they

902
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: and they were all mad and quickly trying? Or was

903
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: that overwrought as Jacoby might have illuminated when he suggested

904
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: that he wasn't listening to those.

905
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Guys you're saying we soft. We're soft in the media

906
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: for making a big novel.

907
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: Particularly the people in the room that Jacoby Brissett were

908
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: talking to. Perhaps their reaction was a little bit overwrought

909
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: about softness and the soft conversation. Really it comes down

910
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: to the Jets aren't a good football team and the

911
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: Patriots might not be either, but today they were better

912
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: than the Jets.

913
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 4: They just were.

914
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: And if you look at Aaron Rodgers numbers a decent

915
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: passing passing day seventeen to twenty eight, two thirty three,

916
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, But it continues to be Aaron having to

917
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: get rid of the ball crazy early in plays, early

918
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: on in the progression, the time to throw. Aaron Rodgers

919
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: today thirty five percent of his attempts under two and

920
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: a half seconds.

921
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: Right, and it wasn't getting pressured much. So he's been

922
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: consistent to me in a weird way. He's kind of

923
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: the same guy every week, which is he the throws

924
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: are even either amazing like he spins it, kind of

925
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: like I've been talking about with Kirk Cousins. He had

926
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: some great throws today to Garrett Wilson, goes five for

927
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: one to thirteen. Wilson gets the benefit of not having

928
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzales on him, so he gets the better match

929
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: up against Marcus Jones. That shows you, Okay, that's the

930
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams trade helping them out. Or he looks old

931
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: as hell and just not comfortable under pressure, which is

932
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: not the Aaron Rodgers that we know.

933
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: Certainly not moving.

934
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: He's won for four outside the pocket for like no yards,

935
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: and they're just poorly run. It was comical they burned

936
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: three timeouts in the first half because they couldn't get

937
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: the play in on time in the first quarter. They

938
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: had another big one in the second half which ended

939
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: up losing large. They had two delay of games because

940
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: they couldn't get the plays off, including on the two

941
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: point conversion, so they had to go further. That ended

942
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: up being a big moment in this game late in

943
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: the game. So they just look poorly run on offense,

944
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: like disjointed players, not plays, kind of like decent players,

945
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: but not good enough plays. And on defense, they're just

946
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: kind of a bad defense. I think it's been long

947
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: enough to say that they're a below average defense and

948
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: Jeff Ulbrick is zero to three.

949
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 5: Nick Cook, Yeah, poorly run, which usually points to a

950
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 5: coach who's about to get fired, except they already fired

951
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: their coach and they demoted their offensive coordinator. You can't

952
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 5: make any more changes on the staff that are going

953
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: to affect you not being able to get plays in

954
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: and getting you know, operations, penalties. That's already that ship

955
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,479
Speaker 5: has sailed. And at the same time, this is Aaron

956
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: Rodgers not trusting his offensive line, by the way, because

957
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 5: I think that at this point he's accepted I don't

958
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 5: have time to throw. I'm not gonna be able to

959
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: sit back there except for maybe three or four times

960
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 5: a game and actually scan the field. Which then shortens

961
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 5: your entire offense. He lost the trust in the offensive

962
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 5: line because they didn't protect him well. Over the first

963
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: six or seven weeks, his average time to throw is

964
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 5: point two seconds slower than it was the previous four

965
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: seasons he played before he missed all of last season.

966
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: That's according to Next Gen's staff looked that one up

967
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 5: last week, and that's alarming because what was the strength

968
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: of Aaron Rodgers when he was with the Packers. He

969
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 5: trusted offensive line, He knew how to navigate the pocket,

970
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: and he would be able to find guys open with

971
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 5: receivers he trusted. He got a receiver he trusted. He

972
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 5: still doesn't good to go to him very often. This

973
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 5: whole offense is limited and shortened by the fact that

974
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: it starts with Rogers, not because he's necessarily playing poorly,

975
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 5: but because he knows he can't be his full self.

976
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, he's forty years old and

977
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: dealing with the pressure of a team that is now

978
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 5: two and six and seems to be going nowhere, especially

979
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: with the defense. They can't get a stop against the

980
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: freaking Patriots in the final three minutes of a football game.

981
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 5: That is embarrassing. I don't care how you slice it.

982
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: It's embarrassing. And you know what, one more tip of

983
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 5: the cap here to Scott Zolek, who a few weeks

984
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: ago was so despondent after their loss to the Dolphins

985
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 5: that he said, there's gonna be some changes that need

986
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: to be made, and if you don't want to make

987
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 5: those changes, it's going to be a dark year or

988
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: whatever something along those lines. He got that change at quarterback,

989
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 5: and then he had to eat his words when the

990
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 5: other quarterback came in and led him to victory today.

991
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: Okay, fair, I don't know if that's the changes that

992
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: he was looking for, and part of it, you're right,

993
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: And I was really upset about the failure of the

994
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: spotter the game and the failure of the officials, not

995
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: only to call the late hit on a slide to

996
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: the head of Drake.

997
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: May that clearly concustom.

998
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: If you're watching the broadcast copy, you saw in a

999
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: second like his teammates went over to celebrate, and he's

1000
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: woozy and like not getting up and he stays in

1001
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: for the next play to get sacked. It's just like

1002
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: and I saw the Boston Herald Karen Grugian note that

1003
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: he only went to the spot er in the tent

1004
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: after having a long conversation. No, not with like the

1005
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: medical professionals. First with Jacoby Presett. I think Jacoby was

1006
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: a dude in that situation. Was like, someone's got to

1007
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: go talk to Drake may He doesn't seem right right now.

1008
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: Rod Mayo said after the game he wanted to re

1009
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: enter the game. Well, thankfully eventually he did get into

1010
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: that tent. But I've seen this too often where pretty

1011
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: obvious concussions seemed to be happening and the plays just

1012
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: continue on. It's disappointing. Let's actually listen to Rogers. You

1013
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: mentioned the lack of conference he has in the offensive.

1014
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: I think he's just playing like he's not confident in himself,

1015
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: Like he's not confident to hold the ball too long,

1016
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: because like the Patriots pass rush is terrible and for

1017
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: the most part they weren't getting pressures, but a couple

1018
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: of times they did get pressures today, he handled it

1019
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: very poorly, like he panicked, and he doesn't look like

1020
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: a confident player.

1021
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 9: Uh.

1022
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 1: He reacted after the game to Jeff Olbrick, saying, yeah,

1023
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: this is a dark moment in this season.

1024
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've been in the darkness.

1025
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: You got to go in there make peace with it.

1026
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 5: Perfect. No better player to have that question asked.

1027
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: It's like almost almost seems like a bit with like

1028
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: the shadow over his eyes. If you're watching it on YouTube,

1029
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: it's intentionble it is. It is dark times right now.

1030
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: Uh in New York, those lights were literally too bright

1031
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: for Adam two and six on a day where I

1032
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: thought they had a lot of good things, like the

1033
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: running backs him so hard. Quinn Williams finally has the

1034
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: best game of his uh season. Let's go to Cincinnati,

1035
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: where we were gonna find something about about two teams

1036
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: who had just been fattening up on some soft opponents.

1037
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 16: Shut up, Hurts looks, he is rolling, he's looking, he's pumping,

1038
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 16: he is going deep downfield, and it is caught Davonte Smith.

1039
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: Touchdown football.

1040
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Yes, it's time for the Sunday Drive, presented by the

1041
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: all new hybrid Toyota Camry. That was Merril Reese wip

1042
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith. Sometimes it's about the players, not just the play.

1043
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: And look at Jack Stole got a nice block to

1044
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: help extend that play for Jalen Hurts, who just says

1045
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: hell Devanta's down there somewhere in an unbelievable catch. Jalen

1046
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Hurts throws those pretty deep throws and Davante made a

1047
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: great catch over the safety for a forty five yard touchdown,

1048
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: the most exciting play in what I thought was Jalen

1049
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Hurts's best game of the entire season. Not just sixteen

1050
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: to twenty through the air for two hundred and thirty

1051
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: six yards and that touchdown, but ten for thirty seven

1052
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: on the ground, three touchdowns, much better in the design

1053
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: run game that that three point seven yards per carry

1054
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with, like four push pushes

1055
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: in this game, which were mostly effective. You know, you

1056
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: see the touchdowns, but they also called some important design

1057
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: runs at key moments where he picked up first downs

1058
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: or big chunks with his legs, mostly rushing up the

1059
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: middle straight ahead like he did in the twenty twenty

1060
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: two season. Saquon Barkley finishes it out with one hundred

1061
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: and eight yards, but they really passed to take the

1062
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: lead and then they ran to win, and that's the formula,

1063
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: even without some of their offensive linemen. Shook I was

1064
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: really impressed with the way they physically held up in

1065
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: pass protection. And in the running game, they were just

1066
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: tougher than the Bengals today.

1067
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they started this trend. I think when they

1068
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 5: beat the Giants, I think they found they rediscovered themselves

1069
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 5: offensively when they got aj Brown and DeVonta Smith back,

1070
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 5: and then they've just kind of been building on that

1071
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 5: since then. I think that went over the Giants gave

1072
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 5: them a lot of c confidence that they needed to

1073
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: unlock this offense that was recently described by Lane Johnson

1074
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: as being constipated. It's not constpated anymore. I don't care

1075
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 5: what brand name lax it if you use, but that

1076
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 5: thing's flowing now. And just look at the score, the

1077
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 5: fact that you put thirty seven points on the board

1078
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 5: and three scores in the fourth quarter. I mean, this

1079
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 5: is an Eagles offensive explosion that we haven't seen since

1080
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 5: I don't know, the first half of last season, if

1081
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: not that their Super Bowl run the year before. It's

1082
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: been a long time, and I think it goes a

1083
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: long way toward your quarterback being comfortable when he puts

1084
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: up a stat line like this and then they're able

1085
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 5: to finish the game on the ground running the football.

1086
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 5: I mean that one possession they had to score their

1087
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 5: last touchdown to make it thirty four to seventeen, seven

1088
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 5: and a half minutes, twelve plays, eighty five yards and

1089
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 5: if you look at their possession chart overall, they punted once.

1090
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: When was the last time we saw.

1091
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: The Eagles be this productive as an offense. It's been

1092
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 5: a long time, So I'm feeling really good about the

1093
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 5: Eagles outlook after a game like this when they moved

1094
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 5: to five and two, and let's not chalk up the

1095
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: nfcast being Washington so fast that they keep playing football

1096
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 5: like this.

1097
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I it reminded me a lot of twenty twenty

1098
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: two because I think the defense that year it was

1099
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: compliment football, where the defense really wasn't that great when

1100
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: they played top tier opponents. And look, this game started

1101
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: with a ten minute drive by the Bengals. There are

1102
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: three drives in the first half. They either had touchdowns

1103
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: or field goals, or they had a field goal miss,

1104
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: and then they had a long touchdown drive to start

1105
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: the second half. So the defense was playing like cheeks

1106
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: basically through their first four or five possessions, but the

1107
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: offense was keeping up and eventually gave them the lead

1108
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: and a chance to settle down and at least make

1109
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: a couple plays Cooper Desine, Brandon Graham. I think they're

1110
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: a better team when they're playing, you know, with the lead,

1111
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: because they're a better pass defense and pass rush versus

1112
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: like stopping the run.

1113
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: And we saw that skill in the secondary, especially both

1114
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: rookies like Quinnon Mitchell making several plays down the field

1115
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: with Chase. Jamar Chase had nine catches, but they're able

1116
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: to keep it to fifty one yards. There was that

1117
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: touchdown where Nolan Smith is covering Jamar Chase.

1118
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 4: That's that's never gonna work.

1119
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: So it took a while to get there. I give

1120
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: him credit, he had him for.

1121
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 3: The first couple of seconds. In fact, I think it

1122
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: was Kevin Harlan on the calls like Jamar Chase is covered,

1123
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: and then Joe Burrow gives Jamar Chase to go that way.

1124
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: That's an edge rsher and it's it's instantly a touchdown there.

1125
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: But one of the big plays in the game speaking

1126
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: to Jamar Chase was the first guy almost never gets

1127
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, but Cooper dejen on a fourth and one

1128
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: lined up, Jamar Chase was able to get a shot

1129
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: on his hip and knock him back, which I think

1130
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 3: could have been a turning point in this game, considering

1131
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: that the DeVante Smith touchdown it just happened. There was

1132
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: no late toush push touchdowns for Jalen Hurts yet that

1133
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: that was a big play in the game.

1134
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: And the rookie stuff.

1135
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I think Zach Taylor showed something there. He said,

1136
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't trust my defense. I don't blame him. I

1137
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: think he was feeling the flow of this game that

1138
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: they weren't getting stops. It's very out of character for

1139
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor to go for a fourth and one on

1140
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: his own side of the field and people kill that play.

1141
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: Coff.

1142
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: I think it was just it was a good play

1143
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: by Cooper. Dezine has played really well the last couple

1144
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: of weeks. There are some good things he did in

1145
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: coverage in this game and last week. And the other

1146
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: big play defensively for the Eagles in this game was

1147
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: the interception by CD Gardner Johnson that was tipped by

1148
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: Isaiah Rodgers, who was replacing Darius Slay. So that was

1149
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: a good one on one throw where Rodgers really made

1150
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: a perfect play and it ends up getting intercepted. I

1151
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: know Bengals fans will look at the seventeen points in

1152
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: the interception and say, you know, they need more out

1153
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: of the offense, and I get it, but it's like

1154
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned, their first four drives, they had two touchdowns,

1155
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: a field goal and a missfield goal before that turnover

1156
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: on downs.

1157
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: That's not on the offense.

1158
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 4: Man.

1159
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I know they didn't keep up in what needed to

1160
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: be a shootout, but that's a hard way to win.

1161
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: It just meant the way the defense was playing today,

1162
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna They weren't gonna win against a real team.

1163
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: I think if you look at the pressures, it really

1164
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: tells a story. The Bengals had only five pressures the

1165
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: whole game, zero quick pressures, whereas the Bengals gave up

1166
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: fourteen pressures five quick pressures for the first almost three

1167
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: quarters full. I thought Burrow is playing like a perfect game,

1168
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: like he was literally playing absolutely perfect. And when that's

1169
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: not good enough, three quarters are perfect before things start

1170
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: going haywire. It means your defense and the surge that

1171
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: you had the last couple of weeks was really about

1172
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: playing some bad opponents and that your defense is a problem.

1173
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: And at three and five this season right now shook

1174
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: as a problem.

1175
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1176
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 5: I mean that's the story of their season, and especially

1177
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 5: the last month or so, is that you've well, actually,

1178
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 5: the whole season, you've been asking your offense to carry you,

1179
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 5: and the last three games they've scored seventeen, twenty one,

1180
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 5: and seventeen points. And if you need your offense to

1181
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: carry you, that's not enough to win most football games

1182
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 5: if your defense isn't good enough. And that's just who

1183
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 5: they are right now. I hate to say it because

1184
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 5: we know the potential of their offense, but we've seen

1185
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 5: enough of this defense now to think three to five

1186
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 5: is accurate. That is who this defense is at least,

1187
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 5: and that's probably who this team's going to be unless

1188
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 5: they can explode for points every week, which is just

1189
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: not a reliable way to win football games in the NFL.

1190
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: This was the worst game of the year. They probably

1191
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: should be about four and four with all those tough

1192
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: endings that they have, but they are. They are what

1193
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: they are, and they were without t Higgins I should

1194
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: have mentioned, had a late week practice injury and was

1195
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: not in this game. And they just they're a star

1196
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: driven team and they need every star on the field,

1197
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: and they didn't have a good job by the Eagles

1198
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: third straight victory. That was the Sunday Drive presented by

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00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,600
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1201
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: And yes, let's go to Seattle where like Bengals Eagles,

1202
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: I thought like, this is gonna be one of the

1203
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: games of the day between two good teams and it

1204
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be one sided.

1205
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: And I was wrong.

1206
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 17: Two tight ends set along with Hollins on the left

1207
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 17: Pullman on the right.

1208
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: It was the snap handoff goes to Cook right up the.

1209
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 17: Cut and into the end zone for his second rushing

1210
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 17: touchdown of the game, a seven yard touchdown run for

1211
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 17: James Cook and the Bills have turned it into a blowout.

1212
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: Brown on WGR wanted that play as the highlight because

1213
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: it just really showed how they were getting whatever they wanted.

1214
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: They just were kind of taking the Seahawks defense lunch money.

1215
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: Thirty one to ten the Bill's win in Seattle, and

1216
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: you can point towards the self inflicted mistakes. The Seahawks

1217
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: have their center, you know, snaps one over Gino's head

1218
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: and then he steps on Geno's foot on the next

1219
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: time they're on the goal line. But I don't think

1220
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: it would have mattered. At one point in this game,

1221
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: the yardage was four hundred and sixteen to one forty one.

1222
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: I mean, if finishes four forty five.

1223
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: To two thirty three, like the Seahawks couldn't get a

1224
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: running game going at all, one point three yards per

1225
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: carry for Kenneth Walker, Zach Charbonnay goes negative. Meanwhile, you

1226
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: got James Cook running for one hundred and eleven, you

1227
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: got Ray Davis going for five yards per carry, Like

1228
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: this was gonna be a one sided Bill's victory. I

1229
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: think no matter what happened, Patrick, I know it would

1230
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: have been closer obviously, like if you get a com

1231
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: point fourteen points is what I mean at point. What

1232
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean is that when Seattle had the ball, okay,

1233
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: there was some back and forth, right when Buffalo had

1234
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: the ball, there was no back and forth.

1235
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: It was just fourth.

1236
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was no opposition.

1237
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: So based on that, if that's the case for sixty

1238
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: minutes it never stopped, then eventually that team will win,

1239
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: and maybe it would have been more entertaining and it

1240
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: would have been thirty one to twenty one or something

1241
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: like that.

1242
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: But you're probably gonna lose.

1243
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were, and there was Josh job did get

1244
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: the first interception thrown by Josh Allen. Of other than

1245
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: that that that might have been the highlight for the

1246
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks on the day, who really couldn't do anything.

1247
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: There was no dk Metcalf in this game to kind

1248
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 3: of threaten that Bill's secondary And it was something that

1249
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: I thought coming into the game where the Seahawks defense

1250
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: really got healthy shook going up against a quarterback that

1251
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: couldn't move and Kirk Cousins and this is this is

1252
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: not Kirk Cousins.

1253
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: This is matter as far as a.

1254
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: Golf athletically from post Achilles Kirk Cousins to Josh Allen

1255
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four as you.

1256
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: Could possibly go. And the results were pretty obvious today.

1257
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Greg has made the point many times

1258
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 5: on this show, which is that Josh Allen is the

1259
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 5: most valuable runner in the NFL. And he was an

1260
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: a valuable runner, you know, in most situations, or as

1261
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 5: a scrambler, as a guy who extends plays as a

1262
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: quarterback and finds guys open and throws a ball a

1263
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 5: yard away from the sideline. They didn't need any of

1264
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 5: that because they won the battle up front. That's the

1265
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: only way to explain how you outgain a team four

1266
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 5: forty five to two thirty three and you win the

1267
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 5: time possession battle by sixteen minutes. Okay, you dominated them.

1268
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 5: They stuffed them in a locker. You want to talk

1269
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 5: about taking lunch money, They stuffed them in a locker

1270
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 5: in their place. Sure it was thirty one to ten

1271
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 5: by the look of it, though it could have been

1272
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 5: even more. Sure the turnovers played a part in it.

1273
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 5: But the Bills just went on the road. They flew

1274
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 5: all the way across the country, and they made a

1275
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 5: statement with a win, which just speaks to how unpredictable

1276
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 5: this league is. Because the Seahawks just came off of

1277
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 5: a resounding victory on the road in Atlanta. They come

1278
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 5: back home, they're all geared up and ready to play

1279
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: the Bills, and they come away just getting you know,

1280
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 5: kind of dominated at home and really tough for them.

1281
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: Right, The Seahawks defense has had so many terrible games

1282
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: this year, and you know they're coming off a game

1283
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: where they got healthy, literally like just their better players

1284
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: are on the field and they perform well in Atlanta,

1285
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: but this is a big step back. There's gonna be

1286
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. They did not have a quarterback

1287
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: hit today, and then they had the rare stat line

1288
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: where they got a team sack, which I'm trying to

1289
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: remember that play, but Josh Allen must have just run

1290
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: out of bounds at some point and they're not. They

1291
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: decided not to give anyone credit for that sack, and

1292
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: so that that's just a day where look, Gino Smith

1293
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: was facing pressure usually up the middle, like Connor Williams

1294
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: had a bad day, but nothing really was was working

1295
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: for this Seattle defense. They have the Rams next week.

1296
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: They're four and four the Seahawks. Okay, the Cardinals are

1297
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: four and four. The Rams are at three and four.

1298
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: This division is just getting started. It's a little bit

1299
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: of a mess, and I would just would be, you know, hesitating,

1300
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: because I follow a lot of Seahawks fans of like,

1301
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Speaker 1: you know, just let.

1302
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: It play out a little bit.

1303
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: The season is not over that this It is ugly,

1304
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: but one of these teams in the NFC West. I

1305
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: believe we'll figure things out at some point as we

1306
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: get closer to Thanksgiving in December, Seattle has a good

1307
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: basis to start with with their passing game, but everything

1308
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: else kind of needs work. The running game is just

1309
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: County on Ken Walker to make people miss, and the defense.

1310
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: You know, we've been over their issues.

1311
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: And again they the big mistakes were so big that

1312
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: it's it's tough to get a full evaluation of a

1313
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: lot of things, especially offensively. I know the metcalf being

1314
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: missing is kind of glaring, but they're like Kenneth Walker

1315
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: will turn a negative run into a positive. Will also

1316
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: sometimes go on little adventures as he did today on

1317
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: the on the bad snap where he's picking it up,

1318
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if he's going to try to throw the

1319
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: ball away instead. You know, it's a it's a massive loss.

1320
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: They go from first and goal to second and goal

1321
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: from the twenty six. It was just it was a

1322
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: very bad game from the Seahawks. But as you mentioned,

1323
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: they're not out of it in the division. Like if

1324
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: you are looking at who has what to be upset

1325
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: about and who has what to feel good about, you

1326
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: can make a case that Seattle could have more to

1327
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: feel good good about them than almost anyone other than

1328
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: the Rams.

1329
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 4: Getting everybody back and getting that win on Thursday, and think.

1330
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: The Rams are feeling excited, the Bills are feeling good

1331
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: about it because the rest of the NFC East, I mean,

1332
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: the AFC East is absolutely collapsing. They're six and two. Eric,

1333
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: my Super Bowl pick is looking good. You got your

1334
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: Dodgers rolling, you got your Bills rolling. Shakier goes nine

1335
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: for one oh seven. Tom Brady was loving him, Khalil Shakir.

1336
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: He was saying it reminded him of like a young

1337
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: Danny am Mondola or Julian Edelvis. I'll say he's closer,

1338
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: coming closer to Edelman than Amon Doola. What do you

1339
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: think he's sprit when he catches the ball, his feet

1340
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: or moving. No touchdowns today, but I felt like every

1341
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: other play was going to him, and he he has

1342
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: the ball, he's he's not looking to go down. It's

1343
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: great they I love that they were very targeted because

1344
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: the middle of the field of the Seahawks defense is

1345
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: absolutely the weakness. They just traded for Ernest Jones, but

1346
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: that's where they were targeting. Ken Coleman goes five for seventy.

1347
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper only has one catch for three yards on

1348
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: two targets, who knows, but the other wide receivers are

1349
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: eating more now that Amari Cooper is in the building.

1350
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: The running game has been pretty good all year. And yeah,

1351
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: the defense also just it's complete, it's healthier than it's been.

1352
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: The Bills are absolutely a Super Bowl contender. Let's take

1353
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: another break, and yeah, we'll start after the break with

1354
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: the favorite still for the Super Bowl.

1355
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: I guess they're just always the.

1356
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 3: Fat always shout out the Khalil secure for breaking the barrier.

1357
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 14: FIO three left in the game, Raiders are out of timeouts,

1358
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 14: second in goal to go.

1359
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: For the Chiefs with them nine sprint left action wide.

1360
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 18: Open, left side top Worthy left front, Thilan.

1361
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: Touchdown chains city Exavi.

1362
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 17: You are Worthy back into the end zone for the

1363
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 17: third time on a reception, fifth time in his rookie year, and.

1364
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: The Chiefs up blowing it open but two touchdowns.

1365
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: That was Zavia Worthy nine yards score WDAF Mitch Holtis

1366
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: on the call, Stop me if you've heard this one before.

1367
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: Some of the game is a little ugly for the

1368
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: Chiefs offense.

1369
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: They wind up with a big play late they win

1370
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: by one score.

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01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: We move on, Nick Suck. What was different about this

1372
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: Chief's victory? Over the Raiders.

1373
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes threw a couple of touchdown passes. That's the

1374
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 5: first thing that was different. So all of you who

1375
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 5: want to get on my Twitter mentions after the next

1376
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: qv Index drops and says, how is Mahomes in the

1377
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 5: top two? He's had a terrible year. Watch this game

1378
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 5: much like every other game, because the guy just creates.

1379
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,479
Speaker 5: When things are breaking down, he extends plays, he keeps

1380
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 5: drives moving and that's what he did again today. Couple

1381
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 5: that with a strong defense and this is the performance

1382
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 5: you get. And this happened after Mahomes had his hand

1383
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: hit on a throw out of the end zone and

1384
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 5: it was picked off and had the ball inside Kansas

1385
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 5: City's ten and they got nothing out of it. Because

1386
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 5: of that, Chiefs defense stood them up on the goal

1387
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 5: line on four downs and got the ball right back

1388
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 5: in Patrick Mahomes's hands and they end up coming away

1389
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 5: with a victory. That's twenty seven to twenty in the final.

1390
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 5: But the Raiders did score a touchdown in the last

1391
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 5: two minutes before they couldn't get the ball back, so

1392
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 5: you could kind of talk about it as twenty seven

1393
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: to thirteen. Chiefs turned defeated it's not pretty, but they're

1394
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 5: a damn good football team.

1395
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: A good football team that saw a solid Gardner Minshew

1396
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 3: game twenty four to thirty two touchdowns.

1397
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: The raid that's tired for Patrick to say, I mean

1398
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: that's through gritted teeth.

1399
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: No, I say it with a smile in my heart

1400
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: for Gardner Minshew because apparently Jacobe Myers was the missing

1401
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: piece to this offense. Because Jacoby Myers comes back, he

1402
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: has seven targets, six catches, fifty two yards and a touchdown.

1403
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: They got Trey Tucker involved as well. Alexander Madison did

1404
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: nothing in the ground game. They got that opportunity and

1405
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 3: Madison gets stopped and the Raiders elect to go for

1406
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: it on fourth down.

1407
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 4: Could have cut it to a one point.

1408
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: I think that's the at this point.

1409
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: You got to get touchdowns, right, Yeah, you don't have

1410
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: the players are necessarily play cause but what are you

1411
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna do?

1412
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: You gotta try to.

1413
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 5: Are you gonna ram are you gonna ram Madison up

1414
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 5: into the goal line? Like three times?

1415
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: You take it?

1416
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: Do you take a field goal?

1417
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: You're saying yeah, or you could take a field goal

1418
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 3: or but ultimately the rollout for Gardner Minshew, the Chiefs

1419
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: were all over that Drew Drew Trenkle with submarining plays

1420
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 3: for most of the game until he left the game

1421
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 3: in the late in the fourth quarter, uh with an injury.

1422
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: But it's there were so many opportunities, and you just

1423
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 3: you think that the Raiders team could have pulled this off,

1424
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: just like they not necessarily the way that they did

1425
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: December of last year, which was a defensive festival and

1426
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: Jack Jones is picking off Patrick Mahomes and Amo Connell's

1427
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: doing absolutely nothing. This was a completely different game. They

1428
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: were still in it, They had an on side kick

1429
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: opportunity that almost bounced their way, could have.

1430
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 4: You know, could have been a hil Mary situation for

1431
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew coming. But again it's all hypothetical.

1432
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think it would have been quite as like, no,

1433
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: you know beautiful.

1434
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: The arc of the ball would not have been as majestic,

1435
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: and probably the celebration wouldn't have been as raucous with

1436
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: maybe a fifty to fifty crowd right in Las Vegas today.

1437
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: But the Chiefs, you know, you said it, shok, They're

1438
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: inevitable and the best Kelsey game that he's had all season,

1439
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 3: ninety yards receiving in a touchdown.

1440
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten for ninety for Kelsey. That's awesome in a

1441
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: touch and was moving. Well, it's crazy that the Raiders

1442
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: had thirty three yards rushing and seven of those is

1443
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: like on a Trey Tucker and around. It just gets

1444
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: me to the point of, like, the Chiefs have so

1445
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: many good players. They're just so deep for such a

1446
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: team with like guys getting paid huge bucks. Ten different

1447
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: players had a quarterback pressure in this game on the

1448
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense, So they're just so deep defensively, And yeah, offensively,

1449
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: it's not as talented, but the offensive line is deep

1450
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: and you have enough guys including now DeAndre Hopkins that

1451
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: can catch passes from Mahomes. What was the offensive report

1452
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: from you shook throughout this game?

1453
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, offensively, not as talented, but schemed by one

1454
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 5: of the masters of offense and Andy Reid. And that's

1455
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 5: the most important part with this team because it's being

1456
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: operated by an elite quarterback. Now, the rest of the

1457
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 5: pieces around him, Sure, if they were great, they would

1458
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 5: be elevating the offense that he putting up a ton

1459
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 5: of points like they did four or five years ago,

1460
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 5: but it really doesn't matter all that matters is that

1461
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 5: they continue to move the chains. I mean, Kareem Hunt

1462
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 5: goes for two point eight yards per carry, and he

1463
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 5: kind of visually looked like he made a nice impact

1464
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 5: because he's running hard and he scored a touchdown. But

1465
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 5: it all starts with Mahomes and as long as they

1466
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 5: have him and they protect him well enough to at

1467
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 5: least allow him to buy time and get out of

1468
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 5: the pocket. I mean, there were so many times where

1469
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 5: I would go from one game to the next and

1470
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 5: it'd be third down and Mahomes would just bounce out

1471
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 5: of the pocket. He'd be scrambling and he'd find somebody

1472
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 5: six yards away for a first down. Just over and

1473
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 5: over and over again. Their paper cutting teams to death.

1474
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 5: And it's got to be miserable if you're a fan

1475
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 5: of the opposing defense to watch this every day. But

1476
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 5: it's really a work of art when you watch it

1477
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 5: from mahomes perspective, because we know what he could be

1478
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 5: when he's putting up these gaudy numbers. Now he's not

1479
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 5: doing that, and they're still winning football games. And a

1480
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 5: lot of it, almost all of it has to do

1481
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 5: at least offensively with him.

1482
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: A lot of teams that feel like you can stick

1483
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: a fork in him this year. I mean the Raiders

1484
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: are certainly one of them. At two and six. There

1485
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: are six teams in the AFC that have six losses.

1486
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: The Titans are one and six, the rest are two

1487
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: and six. A lot of teams just like without a

1488
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: lot of hope. Before Halloween, We're gonna talk about another

1489
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: one of them that traveled across the country to play

1490
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: across the sidewalk in Sofi Stadium.

1491
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: Second and ten.

1492
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 10: Here Herbert to throw and lobs at downfield for mccakee.

1493
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 10: Car mccackey right sideline defender falls to the twenty turn

1494
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 10: on the Jets, Lad to the fifteen to the ten

1495
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 10: upfield into the episode bad Lad touchdown Solgers fifteen is

1496
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,480
Speaker 10: a magic number.

1497
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 4: Lad mcconkee makes it fifteen to five.

1498
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: I love that. Lad mcconkee's got his own touchdown. Call

1499
01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: Matt money Smith our friend, I'm k y s are

1500
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: Wekaki added another touchdown later in the game. He ends

1501
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: up six for one to eleven and two scores.

1502
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 4: Hopefully receiver one this week.

1503
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: Hope you picked him up in your fantasy league.

1504
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: I saw him out there on some waiver wires twenty

1505
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: six to eight. The Chargers get it done in the

1506
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: most twenty twenty four Jim Harbaugh Charger way possible. He's

1507
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of grinding their opponent to a pulp. And yeah,

1508
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: the Saint's fault of two and six in the most

1509
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Saints way possible.

1510
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 2: Not a lot of hope, not a lot of highlights.

1511
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: One of the worst.

1512
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: Teams in the NFL, but let's give some flowers. Nick

1513
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: Shook to what I really respect out of the Chargers

1514
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 1: this year is that they're just like a professional outfit

1515
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: that wins games they should. Which when's the last time

1516
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: you could say that about a Chargers outfit?

1517
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: You're thinking about their losses. I'm not.

1518
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 5: I I was thinking about last week.

1519
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 16: I know.

1520
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: But to me, that's like two evenish teams when they've

1521
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: been in a situation where it's just like you should

1522
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: take care of business against a bad offense. It's like

1523
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: they just take care of business and swat the other

1524
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: one away. There's gotta be a coin flip games. They're

1525
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: not like a super Bowl champion team.

1526
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: Sorry, no, I know, I know. I just was like,

1527
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 5: we just talked about that last week.

1528
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: No.

1529
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 5: Look, there's a reason that the verb chargering exists and

1530
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 5: this is not that team. So hats off to you

1531
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 5: Chargers fans. Congrats. You have a professional outfit. As Greg

1532
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 5: just described, what you have is a quarterback who's got

1533
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 5: a swagger back in Justin Herbert. He threw a touchdown

1534
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 5: pass to Lad mccackey in the fourth quarter of this game,

1535
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 5: and then he started doing a little head nod and

1536
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 5: I was like, I haven't seen that demonstrative version of

1537
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 5: Herbert in probably two to three years. Like he's feeling himself.

1538
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 5: And a big reason why is because he knows he's

1539
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 5: got at least one guy he can trust, and it's

1540
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 5: the rookie with the last name mccaukey, who, like we said,

1541
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 5: six for one eleven and two touchdowns. How about this, He,

1542
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 5: according to Next Gen Stats, caught all three of his

1543
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 5: targets out of the slot for eighty four yards and

1544
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 5: two touchdowns. And they can move him around, he can

1545
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 5: make a difference. He's a reliable guy, which is what

1546
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 5: they've been missing, especially since Keenan Allen and Mike Williams

1547
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 5: left in the offseason. So another strong from Herbert. He

1548
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 5: got busy on the ground. They got a little bit

1549
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 5: from JK. Dobbins. It was just enough, and they played

1550
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 5: good defense. Physical defense. That's the most important part. Physical

1551
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 5: defense against a Saints team that can't protect their quarterback.

1552
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 5: And they also didn't have a quarterback who's really equipped

1553
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 5: to handle the speed or the responsibilities of being a

1554
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 5: starting NFL quarterback. Right now, They're in a bad spot offensively,

1555
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 5: no matter whether it's Jake Hayner who replaced Spencer Ratler

1556
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 5: just pulled you know, Rattler for Haner. He didn't do

1557
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 5: much better statistically, they were almost even. They both get

1558
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 5: the ball out and sometimes they don't know where it's going,

1559
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 5: and that's how you end up with eight points as

1560
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 5: an offense, as the Saints did today.

1561
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, some high throws as well.

1562
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: Kind of wasted a solid effort because Alvin Kamara made

1563
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 3: some plays today that were in a close game that

1564
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 3: could have ultimately been the difference, but the Saints couldn't

1565
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,879
Speaker 3: get a lot of production on the offense.

1566
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: Good to have Crystal Lovely back. They almost lost him again.

1567
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 3: He had to go in to be evaluated for a

1568
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: concussion on a similar looking play to the one that

1569
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: he got hurt where he kind of gets sent on

1570
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 3: a mission and blasted.

1571
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: Rattler has thrown some I like Rattler, but he's thrown

1572
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: hospital balls at a higher clip than any quarterback I've

1573
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:00,959
Speaker 1: ever seen.

1574
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: And so like, thankfully chrys Olave is able to come

1575
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 3: back into the game. I don't know who has high

1576
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: hopes for MVS coming in and replacing what sh Rashid

1577
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: Shaida had to offer, but I guess I got news

1578
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: for them if they missed the last five or six

1579
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 3: years of professional football. But my big takeaway because there

1580
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 3: was a play in this game where Justin Herbert had

1581
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: to throw late. Shepherd for the Saints is twisting his

1582
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: leg low, oh yeah, and Bradley Boseman immediately like this

1583
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: isn't like a post twist reaction like immediately pounces on Shepherd.

1584
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 4: Flags are thrown.

1585
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 3: But it showed to me like this, it kind of

1586
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: symbolized what a healthy Herbo means to this team and

1587
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: especially to this offensive line, because they're nothing without him

1588
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 3: and for him to and he goes off and has

1589
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 3: a huge run immediately after that. I mean, Justin Herbert

1590
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 3: averge twelve yards a carry in this game. He's doing

1591
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 3: everything and really didn't even need to do it against

1592
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: the listless Saints offense that really had nothing to offer today.

1593
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: I think he's been one of the best quarterbacks in

1594
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: the league since the bye, So that's only three weeks,

1595
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: but if the QB Index started in Week six whatever

1596
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: it was after their by we're just talking last three

1597
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, he's top five, top seven, like

1598
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is. He's playing at a very very high level.

1599
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: You know, his teammates didn't help him out last week,

1600
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: but you see the athleticism, you see the arm, and

1601
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: you start to believe in this lousy AFC that they

1602
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 1: got a shot, certainly to sneak into the playoffs.

1603
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1604
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 5: I mean at four and three, they're in a situation

1605
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 5: where they could definitely if they continue to pile these

1606
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 5: wins up. The thing is is like the eye test,

1607
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 5: you're gonna think, uh, they don't look like an impressive team,

1608
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 5: but they're a physical team with a good quarterback who's

1609
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 5: got a lot of arm talent and is able to

1610
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 5: when he's healthy, really handle the job very well. And

1611
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 5: I think that goes a long way, because if you

1612
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 5: can win at the point of attack and if you

1613
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 5: can get your ground game going, here and there. As

1614
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 5: long as you have that quarterback, you're gonna be in

1615
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 5: most games. It's this is not a litmus test against

1616
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 5: these Sames. They're definitely not a measuring stick. But if

1617
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 5: you can those are your staples. Those are a calling cards.

1618
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 5: Is physical defense, really good quarterback receivers that are starting

1619
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 5: to come into their own. Jalen Reager made a nice

1620
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 5: catch down the sideline. You don't expect a lot from him,

1621
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 5: but he made a nice play and I was like,

1622
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 5: all right, you didn't fumble at this time. That's a

1623
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 5: good step forward. Then you're gonna be in the mix.

1624
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 5: So there are at least a team that I can

1625
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 5: respect and watch every week and not think like, oh,

1626
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 5: they're going to blow it.

1627
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: You have six respect, Yes, Josh Balmer with a forty

1628
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: five yard or a twenty seven yard They are playing

1629
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: kind of that old school in Theory Harbaugh type of

1630
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: football where it's the running game needs to be better

1631
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: for really to make sense, but that the passing game

1632
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: does have shot plays and that's I think you need

1633
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: that to take advantage of who Herbert is. It's a

1634
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 1: low moment for the Saints in a season full of

1635
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: them Marshall Lattimore leaves with an injury. You wonder if

1636
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: that's his last snap as a Saint. Would not be

1637
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: surprised if he's traded before the deadline. Depends how serious

1638
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: I suppose that the injury is. Kamara goes for one

1639
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two yards from scrimmage, but you know

1640
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: there's not much pressure there. Joey Bosa came back for

1641
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: this game. Joe Alt the right tackle for the Chargers,

1642
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: had more pass sets without giving up a pressure than

1643
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: any rookie I think ever, or in any game according

1644
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: to Next Gen stat So he had a really strong game.

1645
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: But that also speaks to the lack of a pass

1646
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: rush that the Saints have. They don't really do anything.

1647
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 14: Well.

1648
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: They'll get Derek Carr back next week. I heard Mickey

1649
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: Loomis on Saints Radio this week talk about the rest

1650
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: of the season and say, like, yeah, we're not giving it,

1651
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: Like we look at our schedule and we don't see

1652
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: a team on there that we can't beat. I guess fair,

1653
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: but there's also not a team on that schedule that

1654
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: you can't lose to.

1655
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next one.

1656
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,879
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some Broncos let's talk about some Panthers.

1657
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: Man. This NFC South is.

1658
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 7: Tough bele outside of Mems in a slot left double

1659
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 7: tight end set with Atkins and Troutman in a wing

1660
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 7: right shotgunsnap, Nicks looks left floats.

1661
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 4: One of the anzoni was Troutman Trubbin one hand and

1662
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 4: touch touchdown Denver nineteen yard strike bow Knicks.

1663
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 7: To Adam Trutman who snagged him with one hands.

1664
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: Dave Logan on k o a Broncos beating him down

1665
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: covering that big spread twenty eight to fourteen. Bryce Young

1666
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: comes back in, gives him a little spark at first,

1667
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't flast. Bo Nicks throws for three touchdowns two

1668
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four yards through the air, and the

1669
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: Broncos go to five and three.

1670
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: Are you believing Patrick.

1671
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm believing that they have a good defense, they that

1672
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 3: pass defense that I'm glad that they have Patrick's with tanback,

1673
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 3: they picked off Bryce Young twice.

1674
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 4: Bryce Young, those two touchdown passes.

1675
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: Which is more that Andy Dalton had in the previous

1676
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 3: three games, are combined, but.

1677
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: It's one was with eighteen seconds left.

1678
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough.

1679
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 3: Garbage still counts, especially especially fantasy.

1680
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 4: Was I don't know who's starting.

1681
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: Bryce shot to you or Jalenkolker. Is that his name?

1682
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: It's Jay Cocher.

1683
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 3: I think it's well, there was because there was no

1684
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: Adam Thielen. Of course, Xavier Laguet, who scores a touchdown

1685
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 3: in this game, leaves as well. That was the state

1686
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: of the Panthers receiving corps because you know there was

1687
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: no Deontae Johnson coming into this game as well. But

1688
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: over on the other side, it was twenty eight to fourteen.

1689
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 3: You mentioned the spread being covered. It could have been

1690
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 3: worse because Sean Payton when it was twenty eight to seven,

1691
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: had a fake field goal attempt. Courtland Sutton on fourth

1692
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 3: and one threw a wide receiver pass when it was

1693
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: twenty eight to fourteen late in this game, Sean Payton apparently.

1694
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 3: I was trying to mind Twitter for resources, like, what

1695
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: did the Panthers do to Sean Payton?

1696
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1697
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 3: I guess they didn't interview him, which is interesting because

1698
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 3: there was a plan for him to go to Miami anyway.

1699
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 4: I just everything is very confusing.

1700
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: That might be that's a guess. I'm not I don't know.

1701
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: I just want to say, as Vicey though, as the

1702
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: host of NFL Daily, we are not fully attributing the

1703
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: reason for going for that trick play to the Panthers,

1704
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 1: not giving Sean Payton an interview. It's a good theory,

1705
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: It's an interesting theory. But I do feel like there

1706
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: has to be something going on there. But I don't

1707
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: know what it is.

1708
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: It could have been Dave Canalis with a funny look

1709
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 3: at the coaching something. I have no idea, But Sean

1710
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 3: Payton was doing everything he could to pour it on

1711
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 3: for some reason.

1712
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: Against He just wanted me to feel alive on a

1713
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon.

1714
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 9: You know.

1715
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: He just wants to have some fun. Life is short.

1716
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 1: It's fine, go for trick play, is up, big scores,

1717
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.

1718
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 2: I think it's great.

1719
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like he's been coaching this

1720
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 5: whole season just to like prove a point, and like

1721
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 5: week by week, as they start to stack wins with

1722
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 5: this good defense, he like gets more invigorated and he's

1723
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 5: got more gusto to him and he's just like, yeah,

1724
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 5: you know what, this week, I'm trying a fake field

1725
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 5: goal because why not. We're up by three touchdowns. No

1726
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 5: better time than now to test it. Out in a

1727
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 5: game against the team we know we're already gonna beat.

1728
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 5: Let's do it now. But yeah, you're right, Patrick, Like

1729
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 5: I don't. I can't get a solid read on bo

1730
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 5: Nicks because Bonix himself doesn't have like a consistent performance

1731
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 5: over four quarters. But this game pretty solid. They also

1732
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 5: jumped out to a twenty eight to seven lead, so

1733
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 5: you didn't really need to see him tested over four quarters.

1734
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 5: But I mean, anytime that you throw for you know,

1735
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 5: two or eighty four yards and three touchdowns and you

1736
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 5: beat you know, the lowly Panthers, what's a good day.

1737
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 5: And they're five and three, and because of that defense,

1738
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 5: we have to take them seriously and we'll see how

1739
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 5: they go offensively well.

1740
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: The first two drives though, end with a fumble by

1741
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey and then a punt and so you're

1742
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 1: you're down seven to nothing. That's a little bit of

1743
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: adversity going into the second quarter. And then to get

1744
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: touchdowns on three straight drives, it's I think it's a

1745
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: good step. I think bo Nicks has shown progress. Now

1746
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: he was starting at the very bottom, but he's shown progress,

1747
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: and we'll see, like it's still at a level where

1748
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: if they're playing a quality defense, major questions, but there's

1749
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: only so many of those, Like on the schedule. The

1750
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 1: Broncos have one of the few defenses in the entire

1751
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: NFL that you're like, that's a difference making week to

1752
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: week defense. There's a lot of bad defenses out there,

1753
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: not any as bad as the Panthers necessarily, but if

1754
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: Bonnicks can just be solid against like bad defenses, they

1755
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: could win a decent amount of games.

1756
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, in eight to thirty seven to eighty four three touchdowns.

1757
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: My concern would be Javante only having forty four yards

1758
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 3: on seventeen carries against this particular Panthers defense. Yeah, so

1759
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 3: maybe a sign of concern for the run game where

1760
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 3: that's that may be the frustration not getting things done

1761
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 3: there maybe results in Sean Payton taking shots late to

1762
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: try to make the scoreboard look like he feels it

1763
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 3: should look considering the mismatch of the teams on the field.

1764
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: Shout out to Courtland Sutton didn't get a target last week,

1765
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: He almost knew he was gonna go for a big

1766
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: game this week. Eleven targets, one hundred yards, eight catches,

1767
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: and shout out to Adam troutman, a man who when

1768
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: they brought him to Denver, I said, man, Sean Payton

1769
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: just will take any old old like x Saint, like

1770
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: they traded for him. Saints fans are like really, and

1771
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: here he is with like a big game, a great

1772
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: catch eighty five yards and a touchdown. All right, we're

1773
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna say goodbye to our good friend Patrick. I've enjoyed

1774
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: doing this program with you.

1775
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed it as well. I wish my football team

1776
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: would have won.

1777
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: They did not, but I still think they're in charge

1778
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: of that AFC North. We'll see Steelers on Monday night.

1779
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw to the Arizona Cardinals and the

1780
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Cam Wolf is gonna join us see in

1781
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: here Cam from Miami, and then we're gonna hear from

1782
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Patra on the other side of the break, and

1783
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: Shookie can rejoin me for the Sunday night football recap.

1784
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: I'll see you then, Nikki.

1785
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: Now, gool chairs baby, that's right now, to Arizona and

1786
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins in South Beach.

1787
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 7: One second left, Cardinals down to thirty four yard try,

1788
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 7: snap ball down, The kick from Ryland is up and

1789
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 7: the kick is.

1790
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 13: Good.

1791
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: And the Cardinals win it. The officials took a.

1792
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 7: Long time to signal the kick is good from Ryland,

1793
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 7: and Arizona wins it at the buzzer again twenty eight,

1794
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 7: twenty seven in Miami.

1795
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: That was Chad Ryland thirty four yard field goal Dave

1796
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: pash on Cam VP. Cardinals get the upset win in

1797
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: Miami twenty eight to twenty seven. Chad Ryland ghost for

1798
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: being one of the worst drafted kickers in memory in

1799
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: New England last year helped end Bill Belichick's career to

1800
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: a guy who's kicking clutch kicks week after week, including

1801
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: I think a fifty seven yarder in this win. And

1802
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: I am so excited for the first time here on

1803
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: NFL Daily to be welcoming in a man who was

1804
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: at this game in the locker rooms, on the field,

1805
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: Cam Wolf, you watched it up close.

1806
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Not the game we expected, was it?

1807
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 18: No? Not at all.

1808
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 13: The Cardinals had plans to ruin the feel good movie story,

1809
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 13: which it kind of felt like it was saiding up

1810
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 13: for you know two was returning after this concussion that

1811
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 13: everyone or a lot of people think he should retire from.

1812
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 13: And you know all his team Sames thinks it's going

1813
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 13: to galvanize them and save the team after a two

1814
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 13: and four start, and you forget the quarterback wasn't the

1815
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 13: only problem.

1816
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 18: And you know.

1817
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 13: Arizona came to play. Kyler had an amazing game. Marv

1818
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 13: Harrison and him finally got connected. I know that was

1819
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 13: a question mark for a lot of people, and Trey

1820
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 13: McBride had an amazing day. But really, to me, the

1821
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 13: story is the Dolphins and just more disappointment. Yeah, this

1822
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 13: that had huge expectations and now at two and five

1823
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 13: we're wondering has it already crumbled?

1824
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Two and five.

1825
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: You know it's not a death sentence, but it's a

1826
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: huge setback. And Cardinals fans will give you some love.

1827
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: You're at four and four. You're in the mix. This

1828
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: NFC West race is going to take to the end. Look, hell,

1829
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: you're in first place right now. So Cardinals will get

1830
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: to you in a second. But the too a story.

1831
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: What was the story coming into the week? You followed this,

1832
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: you know really closely. He comes out, He has twenty

1833
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: eight for thirty eight, two hundred and thirty four yards

1834
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. Mike McDaniel said after the game it

1835
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: looked more like the Dolphins offense, and that's true, and

1836
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: seventy seven yards overall, they go eleven for fifteen on

1837
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: third down. What was their locker room and just this

1838
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 1: this week like for you because it was a defiant

1839
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 1: to at the podium and then after the game kind

1840
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: of what did you pick up in the locker room

1841
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: and everything after everything that happened in this game.

1842
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 13: So I'll say this, I was a little worried about

1843
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 13: something like this happening. And you know, you talk to

1844
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 13: a guy like Tyreek Hill during the week, and of

1845
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 13: course he's predictably excited about his quarterback coming in. But

1846
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 13: the message that Mike we Daniel tried to give the

1847
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 13: team is like two is not our savior, and it

1848
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 13: seemed like that was a hollow message, like talking to

1849
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 13: guys around the team, talked to one guy in the

1850
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 13: locker room and he was kind of like, maybe we

1851
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 13: got too relaxed. Maybe we assume that, you know, Tua

1852
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 13: would save everything. And watched him on Sunday, it very

1853
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 13: much looked like, particularly on the defensive side of the ball,

1854
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 13: a group that like took a deep breath, like okay,

1855
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 13: we're good now. You know, we were been holding the

1856
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 13: offense ve for three weeks when these other guys are

1857
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 13: been in here, but now two is here and it's

1858
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 13: all good. And they got exposed by a Cardinals team

1859
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 13: that was hungry and ready to fight. And honestly, a

1860
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 13: lot of the questions around the Dolphins has been their grit.

1861
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 13: What type of physicality and grit and ability to win

1862
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 13: tough games comes out to In that second half, there's

1863
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 13: a lot of grit moments they lost, and I think.

1864
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 18: That's probably, to me the story of this team.

1865
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 13: A lot of talent, not as much grit, And you

1866
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 13: sort of look at this team and like you said,

1867
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 13: two and five, it's not a death sentence.

1868
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 18: But they're going to Buffalo next week. Buffalo is up three.

1869
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 13: And a half games in the division on them already.

1870
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 13: They could put four and a half on them with

1871
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 13: both tie breakers. With the win in Buffalo next week,

1872
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 13: I'm sure they'll be very heavy favorites. And so the

1873
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 13: Dolphins are at a precarious spot. And it's weird because

1874
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 13: Tua played well, The Dolphins played a lot better and

1875
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 13: they still lost, And so that kind of leads you

1876
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 13: with the what's next for a team that's really been

1877
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 13: all in for the last two years.

1878
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so second half they give up three straight scoring

1879
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: drives to end the game, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. Talk

1880
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: me through a little bit what you saw from the

1881
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: defense struggling, and yeah, that's part of the concern that

1882
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: I had coming in, Like they didn't look great when

1883
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 1: Tua was out there before he got hurt. The run

1884
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: blocking has maybe been up and down, like it was

1885
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: good the last couple of weeks, but they had a

1886
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: big play from h Hn today.

1887
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: But that's about it. Tell me what you saw kind

1888
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: of in the fourth.

1889
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Quarter as they were giving up what was a twenty

1890
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 1: to ten lead and then a twenty seven to eighteen

1891
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter.

1892
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, they really struggled to get Kyler Murray contained. Like

1893
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 13: he was very much the playmaker that a lot of

1894
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 13: us know him to be at his peak, where he

1895
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 13: gets stands plays, he runs around like you know, whatever

1896
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 13: adje of a person you can describe him as, and

1897
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 13: he makes plays like he threw a great touchdown to

1898
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 13: Marvin Harrison over Jaylen Ramsey that just came from him

1899
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 13: extending a play and getting.

1900
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 18: It across his body.

1901
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 13: I talked to Emmanuel Aguba, one of their pass rusher

1902
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 13: after the game, and he was like, that's one of

1903
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 13: the better quarterback games I can remember seeing, and we

1904
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 13: just really didn't take him down, like he was like,

1905
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 13: that was really it. Like we got him in our grasp,

1906
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 13: he kept breaking contain and it like broke everything within

1907
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 13: our defense. And so this is a team that like

1908
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 13: they've struggled to get pass rush, and I think that's

1909
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 13: really a core of what I've seen. I watched the

1910
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 13: game and there was a lot of times they tried

1911
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 13: blitzes and it seemed like everyone failed and they got

1912
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 13: big plays out of it. So there's not really an

1913
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 13: immediate answer of like how do you create a conflict

1914
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 13: and pressure on the quarterback? And I know, Anthony, we

1915
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 13: were trying different stuff, but you know, you lose a

1916
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 13: Jalen Phillips to a serious injury, Bradley Chubb's still not

1917
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 13: back from his torn acl and your your first round pick.

1918
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 13: Chop Robinson's just a little raw. He's he's pretty much

1919
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 13: a speed only pass rusher right now. They just don't

1920
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 13: have that juice and teams are exploiting that.

1921
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's be real, Campbell.

1922
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: If Kyler is represented here, I know like compared to us,

1923
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: he's not a real short king, but as NFL players go,

1924
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 1: he's a short king and he's representing well.

1925
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean when.

1926
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: Kalais Campbell like volleyball, spiked one of his pass early

1927
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: in this game, I thought, oh man, it's gonna be

1928
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: a long day for my guy.

1929
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 2: But he's running.

1930
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: Around here in three hundred and seven yards and two touchdowns.

1931
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: And sometimes you see him on film not take open

1932
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: throws or not see him like he's trying to make.

1933
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: The big plays.

1934
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: But the flip side is games like this where he's

1935
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: doing it and he's just magical. He's a different sort

1936
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: of player that than Tua. You mentioned the defense. Yeah,

1937
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: they only had one quarterback hit in this game, which

1938
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: is just brutal for an entire defense. And that wasn't

1939
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: even from the defensive line. That was from Jordan Hicks,

1940
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: So that that's where the loss has to go. Tell me,

1941
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I guess a little bit about where you think this

1942
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: organization is because in the fans too, because those fans

1943
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: will turn on this Dolphins team when they're bad. They'll

1944
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: get either disinterested or mad. And I heard there was

1945
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,480
Speaker 1: some fire Greer chance after the game, and like outside

1946
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 1: and fire McDaniel and everything kind of tell me where

1947
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: that's at and kind of what it's like in the

1948
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: city right now.

1949
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's it's not great.

1950
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 4: Greg. I'll tell you that this is a.

1951
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 13: Team that's really sold his self as like this is

1952
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 13: our year, We're all in, and you ask where do

1953
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 13: you go next?

1954
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 18: That's almost the more frustrating part. They've paid everyone.

1955
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 13: They paid Mike McDaniel, they paid to a tongue of Bailoa,

1956
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 13: Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle, Jaalen Ramsey, like everyone who you know,

1957
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 13: you're everyone who's the core of your team. Maybe you

1958
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 13: could argue the GM hasn't got an extension, but the

1959
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 13: core of your team is together, and you've paid them

1960
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 13: long term extensions and they're in the midst of their

1961
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 13: worst season in probably six or seven years, with the

1962
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 13: most talent they've had in six or seven years.

1963
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 18: And so I think that there's no immediate answer.

1964
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 13: I think they've got to look within and and really

1965
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 13: I think a lot of.

1966
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 18: This comes to like what is the culture of this team?

1967
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 13: And I remember being on the road a lot last

1968
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 13: year and talking to defensive coaches and coordinators and they

1969
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 13: were like, this is a video game team.

1970
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 18: But if we feel like.

1971
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 13: We punch them in the mouth, we get them in

1972
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 13: our type situations, they'll fold. And the Dolphins were really

1973
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 13: upset by that narrative. Mike McDaniel fought it all year

1974
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 13: that they can't beat winning teams, they can't win in

1975
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:06,719
Speaker 13: the cold, and this year I think it's more evident

1976
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 13: than ever that I don't know if they have the

1977
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 13: toughness to be able to withstand the playoff race, and

1978
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 13: teams like this show it even the games without Tua.

1979
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 13: If you're a team that you know one quarterback can

1980
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 13: take down the whole ship, I think it says a

1981
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 13: lot about.

1982
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 18: Who you are as a team. And you know, I'll

1983
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 18: just say this.

1984
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 13: Look, they made a decision to go away from Brian

1985
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 13: Flores a few years ago and Google tours Mike McDaniel.

1986
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 13: A lot of times teams do opposite coaching styles, right,

1987
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 13: and Mike McDaniel did a lot of great things for Tua,

1988
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 13: building this confidence up, bringing this offense to a level

1989
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 13: it never was. But I do wonder if some of

1990
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,520
Speaker 13: the discipline, some of the physicality, some of the toughness

1991
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 13: was missing from this team that maybe was in previous teams.

1992
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 13: They're one of the worst teams in the league in

1993
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 13: penalties the second straight year there towards the bottom of

1994
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 13: the league, and penalties operation has been an issue like that.

1995
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 13: That's a discipline thing, and you know you can't help,

1996
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 13: but know, you know, you got a fun loving group,

1997
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 13: got a fun loving coach. That kind of becomes your team.

1998
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 13: You just want to have fun. And fun is great

1999
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 13: until you start getting on a losing streak and you

2000
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 13: start losing games you shouldn't lose, and then you know

2001
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 13: it's not that much fun anymore. I start thinking, remember

2002
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 13: the Titans. You know fun, it is football.

2003
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Fun. Today was not fun. I mean, they have a

2004
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 2: twenty to ten lead.

2005
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: It's halfway through the second quarter or the third quarter rather,

2006
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a bad snap that maybe Tis

2007
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: said he could have maybe had at but it was

2008
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: a bad snap. It ends up being a safety. It's

2009
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 1: twenty to twelve. From that point forward. Here's what the

2010
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: defense did. They give up a seventy five yard nine

2011
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: play touchdown drive, a seventy yard eight play touchdown drive

2012
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. And then here here's the kicker, and

2013
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense hardly collapsed. I know they punted once

2014
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: in there, but they also scored a touchdown in there.

2015
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,839
Speaker 1: They only had seven drives in this game on offense.

2016
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: That is a light day of offense. Eight drives rather

2017
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: and they score twenty seven points. But to finish the game,

2018
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,919
Speaker 1: and this is where I want to give Cardinals their flowers,

2019
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,759
Speaker 1: their fans, their flowers. Drew Petsing has taken some slings

2020
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: and arrows this year. They're offensive coach, they're not that

2021
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: talented on defense. They get the ball back with five

2022
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 1: minutes left in the in the game, they go thirteen

2023
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: plays eighty three yards. That includes a penalty in there,

2024
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: so seventy three total before that game winning field goal.

2025
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: That is tough, smash mouth type football, James Connor, but

2026
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: it was more of the passing game McBride, Harrison, Wilson, Connor,

2027
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Murray putting it on the Dolphins and kind of to

2028
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 1: your point, showing who's the tougher team. And that is

2029
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: a galvanizing win for a Cardinals team that's just looking

2030
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 1: to be relevant. I couldn't believe this stat camp is

2031
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: the first time they've won back to back game since

2032
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one.

2033
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: That's wild. So they're a team. Now they're a real team.

2034
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: They're in this race, and props and give them their flowers.

2035
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 13: So that's a great stat because I actually talked to

2036
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 13: Marv Harrison year after the game of one on one

2037
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 13: for NFL Network and I asked him about the meaning

2038
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 13: of this, and that's the first thing you mentioned. He

2039
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 13: was like, this is the first back to back win

2040
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,759
Speaker 13: that most of the guys.

2041
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 18: In the locker room have ever seen.

2042
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 13: He was like, I know, it's my first year, but

2043
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 13: he's like most of the guys we talked about in

2044
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 13: the locker room, this is one of the first back

2045
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 13: to back wins they can remember seeing. And he's like,

2046
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 13: this is how you build a culture. And I thought

2047
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 13: that was very interesting because I didn't know the twenty

2048
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 13: twenty one stat. I just knew he said, and I'm like, oh,

2049
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 13: maybe all these guys have been here for one year,

2050
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 13: but that's three years since you've won back to back games.

2051
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 13: They started to have a little spurt at the end

2052
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 13: of last year. I remember that big win against Philly.

2053
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 13: I think they had one against Pittsburgh as well. But

2054
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 13: you just kind of see sprinkles and now you see

2055
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 13: more consistency in spurts. Winning against you know, the Chargers

2056
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 13: last week, winning against Miami this week, and I thought

2057
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 13: that final drive told a lot about the team, Like

2058
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 13: Miami is the team that has the most talent, They

2059
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 13: have a lot to play for their the expectations team,

2060
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 13: and every single play the Arnolds set seemed like they

2061
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 13: just had a little extra you know, Kyler made somebody miss.

2062
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 13: You know, Marv Harrison, who had I keep repeating because

2063
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 13: he had a great game, kept making plays in the

2064
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 13: open field. Trey McBride had an amazing game as well,

2065
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 13: and they kept putting themselves in situations where the Dolphins

2066
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 13: could have made a stop and they didn't. And you know,

2067
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 13: I just I just think that, you know, it won't

2068
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 13: be this year. I don't know if they're a playoff

2069
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 13: team this year, but I just think that, you know,

2070
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 13: this team is headed in the right direction with Kyler

2071
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 13: at the Mitts. I know there's often been the question of, hey,

2072
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 13: should they get a new quarterback. I saw everything I

2073
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 13: need to know in Kyler. He's not the issue.

2074
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 18: How to get the rest of the talent of their

2075
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 18: roster ready.

2076
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: Cam Wolfe NFL Network.

2077
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: Big time win for the Cardinals, big time win for

2078
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: us to get Cam on the show. We'll do it

2079
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: again down the road. Appreciate you, Cam, Appreciate you great.

2080
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: All right, we are.

2081
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 1: Going to take a quick break and we'll be back

2082
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: with the rest of the games.

2083
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 7: Sam's at the Colts fourteen Stroud under center, handoff, Mixon

2084
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 7: starts Wright, cuts left ten five, Mixon still Cohen, takes

2085
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,440
Speaker 7: out of defender.

2086
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 2: And takes the ball into the end zone. Jones couldn't

2087
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: bring him down.

2088
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 7: Mixon has six for Houston and they can tire the game.

2089
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 4: With the extra point.

2090
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 3: Mixing with a grown man run, get off me won

2091
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 3: a run by Joe Mixon.

2092
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 2: I am a fan.

2093
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Kilt Mark Vandermere, Joe Mixon just outrageous run. Now rageous

2094
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: runner this year when he gets the ball in space

2095
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: that only tied at ten to ten. But that was

2096
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: my favorite highlight, my favorite play in a game that

2097
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 1: was just a little weird that Texans end up winning

2098
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: this holding on twenty three to twenty. And yes, as

2099
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,839
Speaker 1: they mentioned before the break, bringing in our friend Kevin

2100
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: patra Uh, Hey, what is your biggest takeaway? Because to me,

2101
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, the Texans are in charge of this division.

2102
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: The loose Stefan Dicks to an injury in this game.

2103
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to feel about either one of

2104
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: these teams.

2105
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: But where do you want to start?

2106
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 19: Kevin Well how I started in the What we learned

2107
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 19: this week is defining it as the Texans survived.

2108
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 12: They survived.

2109
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 19: A near collapse, They survived with bad a really bad

2110
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 19: turnover on a pitch from c. J. Stroud and CJ.

2111
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 19: Stroud survived behind an offensive line that continues to be

2112
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 19: really bad as a pass protecting unit. He was under

2113
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 19: siege all day. I think it was like fifty seven

2114
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 19: percent pressure rate, something ridiculous, and he just couldn't get

2115
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 19: anything going on offense. Mixon was like the stabilizing force.

2116
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 19: He had a one hundred and two yards and that

2117
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 19: touchdown that we saw, and other than that, there was

2118
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 19: like it was up and down all game. And then

2119
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 19: when Diggs went out, you know, it was a funnel

2120
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 19: everything through Tank Dell. But as far as the Texans go,

2121
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 19: they really just kind of meandered their way through this

2122
01:36:55,800 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 19: and let Anthony Richardson kind of hand them the the

2123
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 19: victory there.

2124
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to it. So Richardson finishes ten for

2125
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:05,839
Speaker 1: thirty two.

2126
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,839
Speaker 19: Yeah, which is you know, where those ten came from. Honestly,

2127
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 19: it was he. I say, he did complete ten passes,

2128
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 19: Like that's how bad it was.

2129
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: He did have a couple good throws that I thought

2130
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 1: could have been caught, like one or two in there,

2131
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 1: like the touchdown throw to who was that to to down?

2132
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: Not not the touchdowns, not the long white not the

2133
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: long touchdown throw. I'm thinking of another one that that

2134
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: wasn't caught to the pylon or whatever, to eighty Mitchell.

2135
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful thrower. Like that's the one play

2136
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: where you look at it and you're like, see, that's

2137
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: what everyone wants to see him moving in the pocket,

2138
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: making a good decision and throwing an absolute dying But

2139
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: where just where do you think he's at with play?

2140
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 2: He reminds me the NFL level.

2141
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 12: It's weird.

2142
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 19: He he reminds me of like somebody who would have

2143
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 19: played in like the seventies or the eighties, like just

2144
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 19: bombs away, but like very poor accuracy on the intermediate routes,

2145
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 19: which is like something we don't see nowadays. Quarterbacks are

2146
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 19: like seventy five percent completion rate, like and he just

2147
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 19: and his misses aren't close. Really, I mean, he's putting

2148
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 19: in a guy's feet, everything is behind it. Receivers got

2149
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 19: to you know, twist their contort their body just to

2150
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 19: make it close. And then he uncorks a bomb and

2151
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 19: it could one got completed today, but most of them,

2152
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 19: you know, it was just off the marker, throwing it

2153
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 19: out of bounds.

2154
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 12: He's just very inconsistent.

2155
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 19: And I was really surprised that Shane Stykin kept putting

2156
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 19: the ball in his hands, especially with Jonathan Taylor back.

2157
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 19: And Taylor looked good when he carries for a bucko five.

2158
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 19: Uh So, I mean they could have rammed the ball more,

2159
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 19: and I think Colts fans would would say that that's

2160
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 19: what they were thinking about. I thought this whole game

2161
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 19: was like who's gonna run the ball and who's gonna

2162
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 19: make a play on the ground because the offensive lines

2163
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 19: could not pass protect at all.

2164
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 12: And what we haven't even gotten to is.

2165
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 19: Daniel Hunter was ridiculous today and so was Will Anderson,

2166
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 19: and the two coming off the edge made life miserable

2167
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 19: for Anthony Richardson and he couldn't escape from it.

2168
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 1: Well that makes more sense, like, look, they are a

2169
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 1: defense with stars that has created issues for much worse,

2170
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: much better offenses. Than this now, Jonathan Taylor, I agree,

2171
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: like looked fantastic in this play, but I mean in

2172
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: this game. But yeah, when Richardson was holding the ball

2173
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 1: more than two and a half seconds, he goes five

2174
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 1: for for twenty three.

2175
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that is just outrageous.

2176
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 1: And I know he was under pressure on some of

2177
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 1: those and he had some rushing ability, but it is

2178
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: a tricky spot.

2179
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 2: He also missed the play.

2180
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: It's going to become a big talking point that he

2181
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: said he was, you know, tired.

2182
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 19: You know, he got twisted down. So at the time,

2183
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 19: I was like, well, maybe he's a little banged up.

2184
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 19: It was third and long and they just handed. They

2185
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 19: just were like, okay, this is a give up play anyway.

2186
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 19: So I think the coaching staff would probably say it's

2187
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 19: not a big deal, but that mentality is, you know,

2188
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 19: that's going to be questioned moving forward.

2189
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 2: I don't think that is that big of a deal.

2190
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 1: I think not being able to really run a consistent

2191
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: NFL passing game is a bigger deal. That Michael Pittman

2192
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: goes from so valuable to six targets one catch. When

2193
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Richardson goes in, you just like lose the value of

2194
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: one of your best players.

2195
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 2: It's problematic.

2196
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Tell me what I'm not seeing in Stroud's day, because yeah,

2197
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: he was under a lot of pressure. He still ends

2198
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 1: up being able to complete twenty five of thirty seven

2199
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: for two eighty five, but without digs and without Nico

2200
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: collins Man.

2201
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 2: It's just it's tough living.

2202
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 19: And you could tell like the pressure was starting to win.

2203
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 19: And I would use the word annoy for him more

2204
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 19: than like, you know, make him. He can still complete

2205
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 19: passes and he makes plays out of structure like we

2206
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 19: saw last year, and he continues to do that, but

2207
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,839
Speaker 19: his pass were just a tick off, like a tick behind.

2208
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 19: Not as bad as Anthony Richardson's, but just like something

2209
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 19: wasn't right, and he just seemed like he was getting

2210
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 19: annoyed with himself and with the lack of protection. At

2211
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 19: one point they pulled left guard Green and replaced him,

2212
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 19: and then his replacement got injured, so he was right

2213
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 19: back like they clearly were trying to bench him, and

2214
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 19: then they couldn't because his replacement got hurt, so he

2215
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 19: was back in there. But it's just they needed four

2216
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 19: by the interior of that offensive line. I don't I mean,

2217
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 19: it's really hard to trade for offensive linemen right like

2218
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 19: ever in the middle of the season, but like if

2219
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 19: there was ever a team coaching he needed it.

2220
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coaching.

2221
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 12: He need need to figure it out.

2222
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: To your point, And now that I look at the

2223
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: next gen numbers, it's absolutely crazy. So I pointed out

2224
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: earlier in the show that the Bengals didn't have a

2225
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: single quick pressure on the day, which means under two

2226
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: and a half seconds. Dio Odingbo had five on his own.

2227
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:35,520
Speaker 1: He was one of seven Colts who not only had pressures,

2228
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: but quick pressures, Like, so multiple multiple quick pressures. So

2229
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: lots who had three, Pay had two, Buckaner had two,

2230
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 1: Brian had two. EJ Speed their linebacker right too. Those

2231
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: are the quick pressures. I could go into like the

2232
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: just total pressures numbers, and they're absolutely outrageous. And yeah,

2233
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: like the the Texans had a ton two Hunter at twelve,

2234
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Landers that at seven.

2235
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:58,679
Speaker 2: It was just a game of pressures.

2236
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: But if you look at like the quick numbers, it

2237
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: was even more dramatic on the Colt side, And then

2238
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely fair to kind of compare the

2239
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: two It's like one young quarterback who's one of the

2240
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 1: best young quarterbacks i've ever seen can make it work

2241
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: and make an NFL offense because he's so ahead of schedule,

2242
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: and the other quarterback absolutely can't because he's behind schedule.

2243
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: And if the Colts are really trying to win games,

2244
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. I think they start Joe

2245
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: Flacco next week, but I don't think they're at that point.

2246
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be either. I don't think honestly,

2247
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be. It's not all about

2248
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

2249
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 19: I think it's fair to ask that question, like, should

2250
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 19: they if they're you know, try now they're two games

2251
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 19: behind in the division because they lost this game. But

2252
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 19: if the goal is to Anthony Ridgardson to be your

2253
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 19: franchise quarterback, yo, yelling him in out of the lineup

2254
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 19: is not going to do anybody any good.

2255
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if at some point he gets bench

2256
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: for a couple of games and then reinserted after a few,

2257
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: we will see. Let's go to Detroit where quarterback controversies

2258
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: that's that's for bad teams. That is a long time

2259
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 1: ago that Detroit had quarterback controversies.

2260
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 11: Off out of the gun hands it to Jamior Gibbs

2261
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 11: gives their fifty.

2262
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 2: It's a foot race down the left sideline. Give twenty fifty.

2263
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 19: Ten five touch down.

2264
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 10: De Froyd Lions, Oh, maybe seventy yards.

2265
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 8: Smir Gibbs found the opening and they couldn't find him.

2266
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: That is Dan Miller and Lomas Brown on w x

2267
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: y T. Remember that stat a couple of weeks ago

2268
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 1: that Jamiir Gibbs had somehow not popped a twenty yard

2269
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 1: run all season, and in the last couple of weeks

2270
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: all it is is twenty yard runs.

2271
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 2: Seventy yard runs.

2272
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: He finishes with one twenty seven on the ground on

2273
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: only eleven carries. David Montgomery adds a rushing touchdown and

2274
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: a passing touchdown. The Lions dropped a fifty burger on

2275
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: the Titans at one point right through three quarters. At

2276
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: one point in this game, they had forty nine points

2277
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: in twenty six net passing yards. Jared Goff finishes with

2278
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: only eighty five yards through the air and three touchdowns.

2279
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 1: It's a laugher. This is what you can do when

2280
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: you're one of the best teams in the NFL. Kevin Patrick,

2281
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 1: how does it feel?

2282
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 19: It's hilarious because I was thinking. I was thinking during

2283
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 19: the game, I'm like, man, I remember these games. Yeah,

2284
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 19: being on the losing sides so many times of like

2285
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 19: just to just getting walloped and there's nothing you can

2286
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 19: do about it.

2287
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:29,799
Speaker 12: I mean this, it was crazy.

2288
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 19: The line started drives on the interception on the second

2289
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 19: drive started at Tennessee's twenty.

2290
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 12: Three, A big big kickoff.

2291
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 19: Return start at Tennessee's twenty five, and other interceptions started

2292
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 19: Tennessee's to what twelve. Another punt return started Tennessee's twenty two,

2293
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 19: then a kickoff return for a touchdown. I mean, the

2294
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 19: offense didn't have to do anything. This was a day

2295
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 19: off for Jared Goff. He didn't have to do anything

2296
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 19: at all. You know, he took some sacks. He might

2297
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 19: have been a little banged up with his ankle. We'll

2298
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 19: find out more going forward, because he did. He did

2299
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 19: get get rolled up on. But they didn't have to

2300
01:44:59,880 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 19: do after the Gibbs touchdown blast off, it was more

2301
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 19: like they were practicing red zone offense all they were doing.

2302
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 1: And what's awesome about that is that the defense can

2303
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 1: create big plays. You get the huge ninety yard touchdown

2304
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: return by Khalif Raymond, your special teams are making plays

2305
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: so that it doesn't all have to be about the offense,

2306
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: right and the offensive line. In a day where you're

2307
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: playing up against a pretty good pass rush and a

2308
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 1: pretty good run defense, you can still exert your will

2309
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 1: on the other team. Mason Rudolph starting the game. He

2310
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 1: ends up having a couple interceptions. Tony Pollard, who's like

2311
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 1: the only good part of this Titans team, has a

2312
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: nice day on the ground. And it was funny because

2313
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley was the squeaky wheel this week saying they

2314
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: don't get me the ball much in the first quarter,

2315
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: and he had one hundred yards in the first quarter

2316
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: and none of it mattered because none of them mattered.

2317
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: The Jets are, I mean, the Lions are just that good. Laporta.

2318
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: Nice to see him finally make some big plays. I mean,

2319
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: what are you even worried about right now? As a

2320
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Lions fan. It's going too well.

2321
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 19: The pass rush is going to be an issue. They

2322
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 19: need to make a move before the deadline. I mean,

2323
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 19: maybe they could get arden Key after they just played

2324
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 19: him and he had two sacks today on Jared Goff,

2325
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 19: maybe they can flip him. Since the Titans are, you know,

2326
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 19: in cell mode, but that was an issue early. I mean,

2327
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 19: Mason Rudolph was moving the ball up and down the

2328
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 19: field that Jamier Gibbs scored, and then the Titans answered

2329
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 19: with another touchdown, and then Detroit it was just then

2330
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 19: the bottom fell out for Tennessee and it was thirty

2331
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 19: eight straight points or whatever it was. So I think

2332
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 19: we're moving the ball and I do still have questions

2333
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 19: about that pass rush because the secondary. Aaron Glenn deserves

2334
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 19: a ton of credit for getting these guys in the

2335
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 19: secondary to play well. But if you can't get pressured

2336
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 19: better quarterbacks are going to pick you apart down the road.

2337
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 2: I love this division. There's so many division games left.

2338
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 1: So to say that next week's Packers Lions game is like, oh,

2339
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: that's the biggest game, It's like, no, we got a

2340
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of big games between all these teams left. We'll

2341
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: see if the Bears can hang with the other three.

2342
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Vikings can hang with the Packers,

2343
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: and the Lions. We'll see if any of them can

2344
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: hang with the line, because the Lions look that good lately.

2345
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: I loved what Dan Campbell said after the game on

2346
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: the podium and in the locker room after the game.

2347
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 2: This is him on the podium.

2348
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 20: We did come out to fight, and that's what we expected.

2349
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 20: You know. I felt that we were going to be ready.

2350
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 20: We were going to be ready. And it's like I

2351
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 20: told them, that's what champions do is and you come out.

2352
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 20: You don't care what time of day it is, what

2353
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 20: the records are, what the surface is. You just you

2354
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 20: come out and handle your business.

2355
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 2: That's absolutely right, Kim Petra. That is which champions.

2356
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 12: No trap game, There no trap game, right.

2357
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 1: They're up for every game and that it's always a

2358
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 1: sign of a great team who can stomp on the

2359
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: bad teams. Because we know the Lions are going to

2360
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: play the good teams tight or beat the good teams.

2361
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: We've established that, But who can stop and stay on

2362
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: their p's and q's.

2363
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell is getting it done. What a coach you found.

2364
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, Kevin Patra, a coach to match

2365
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 1: that beautiful head of hair. We say goodbye to Kevin

2366
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 1: Patra and we head to Sunday Night football.

2367
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 5: Here's Brock under center, Grendo the long back, the party plunch.

2368
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 7: He'll take it to the goal Line's perty in right

2369
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 7: up against the goal line touchdown San.

2370
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Francisco, the Rock Perty Plunch Rock Party takes it in

2371
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: from two yards out. That's Greg Papa on KNBR. I

2372
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: don't know if that was just an automatic play where

2373
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: where Perdy saw what was in front of him and

2374
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: he decided to take the two yards out were there,

2375
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: but his head's up quarterbacking, which he did for most

2376
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 1: of the night, especially on the ground, Perty ends up

2377
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: with fifty six rushing yards. Isaac Corendo in for an

2378
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: injured Jordan Mason gets eighty five on the ground with

2379
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: a touchdown. The forty nine Ers explode in the third quarter,

2380
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 1: come back from ten to three to make it twenty

2381
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: seven to ten, and then they hang on for your

2382
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: dear life. After almost doing what the forty nine ers do,

2383
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: which is blow a fourth quarter lead thirty to twenty four,

2384
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: their defense gets Dak Prescott to go four and out.

2385
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 2: At the end of the game, Nick Shook, It's like.

2386
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 1: Depending on which section of the game you watched, you

2387
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: could think that any unit on either of these teams

2388
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: is terrible or awesome. Like each offense or defense took

2389
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 1: turns not looking great or looking dominant. But the forty

2390
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 1: nine ers I think are the better team overall, and

2391
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 1: they got the win in the end.

2392
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you really want an assessment of the

2393
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 5: Cowboys offense, don't watch that last possession they had because

2394
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 5: it was dreadful. You know, down six points, you've burned

2395
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 5: all your timeouts. You need to go basically the length

2396
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 5: of the field, and you call up four of the

2397
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 5: worst plays possible and don't get a yard and four

2398
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 5: and out otherwise, you know, like you said, there was

2399
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 5: a period there. I know, right, I'd freezing for a

2400
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 5: second just because I'm like, wow, this game, I'm the

2401
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 5: forty nine ers are like world beaters for a quarter

2402
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 5: and then they look like, well they were gonna blow

2403
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 5: another lead in the fourth quarter. At one point late

2404
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 5: in the third quarter, I just thought to myself, they're

2405
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 5: gonna slaughter them, like is gonna be over with ten

2406
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 5: minutes left in the fourth quarter. And then the Cowboys

2407
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 5: mount a comeback and neither offense could do much in

2408
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 5: the first half, and at the end of the night,

2409
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 5: we're like, what do we know about these teams? We

2410
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 5: know one thing. The forty nine ers got to win,

2411
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 5: and that's a lot for them because it's been a

2412
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 5: rough Yeah, in five weeks and the Cowboys are still

2413
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 5: the Cowboys who are banged up defensively, got more banged

2414
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 5: up tonight and in the end came up short.

2415
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 2: Right, they're three and four and.

2416
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: Right now, what they're two games back in the lost

2417
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: column to Washington and Philadelphia. And there's just nothing consistent

2418
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: about this team. Dak Prescott's having the worst season of

2419
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: his career. Their offense is the worst that it's been

2420
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: in the Mike McCarthy era, really, or at least in yeah,

2421
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty one. If you look at their EPA

2422
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: per play numbers and their success rate, they've been top

2423
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 1: five in the McCarthy era, and this year they're outside

2424
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: of the top twenty. And it reminded me so much

2425
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 1: of the Ravens game where they fall way behind, they

2426
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: play their best football CD, Lamb and deck in Dak,

2427
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, looking great in the fourth ordered down by

2428
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 1: a handful of scores. I'm not gonna say it's garbage

2429
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: time because you got the ball back, as you mentioned,

2430
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: with four minutes to go, your defense stepping up with

2431
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: a chance to win. Actually, I do think those four

2432
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 1: players are the ones to watch, nick, because I think

2433
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 1: they're very telling about this season. First play on that drive,

2434
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: first and ten, Dak Prescott throws it into a forty

2435
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: nine ers team meeting. If Fred Warner doesn't break the

2436
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 1: ball up, dominor Lador is gonna pick it off and

2437
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: the game's over, like two or three forty nine ers,

2438
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know what Dak was thinking. And there's

2439
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 1: just been more of those plays than you would expect

2440
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: this year. Two interceptions in this game. One of them

2441
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: was a great defensive play, but still that was another one.

2442
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: So that's play number one. Then you try a deep

2443
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: shot to go Cavante Turpin, which was a great throw,

2444
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: could have been an absolutely great play, but just poor execution.

2445
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:56,679
Speaker 1: Turpin can't come down with it. But then you think

2446
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 1: about it and it's like we're throwing perimeter shots to

2447
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: our receiver because we don't really have anyone else to

2448
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: throw to. Then third down, he's under a lot of

2449
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: pressure and he throws it in completion or that that's

2450
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 1: the fourth down. And there was another where he was

2451
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: fleshed out and at the throw it out the sideline.

2452
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 1: It's just like, if it's not the offensive line, it's Dak,

2453
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I's not Dak, it's one of the receivers.

2454
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you get no running game tonight ten

2455
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 5: for thirty four from Zigil Elliott. But you're actually, you're

2456
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 5: absolutely right. Those four plays did kind of describe the

2457
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 5: Cowboys in a nutshell because, first off, situational football. Why

2458
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 5: are you calling those plays as if there's forty five

2459
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 5: seconds left with no timeouts? I mean, the shots of

2460
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 5: Turpin down the sideline was a perfectly placed ball by

2461
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott, but it's Turpid. It's a small guy who's

2462
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 5: mainly a returner who's become a receiver out of necessity.

2463
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 5: You're not throwing it up the ceed land. You're not

2464
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 5: thrown up to anybody with any size, and he doesn't

2465
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 5: make the play. Why are you taking shots or at

2466
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 5: least putting Dak in a situation where it feels like

2467
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 5: he's got to make a thirty yard completion just to

2468
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 5: keep them alive when there's ten yards to go and

2469
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 5: you're out of the two minute warning. That speaks to

2470
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 5: the Cowboys and their dysfunction offensively, which has been which

2471
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 5: has played them for most of the year. The other

2472
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 5: thing is this, why did it take them falling behind

2473
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 5: twenty seven to ten for them to wake up offensively.

2474
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 5: Not to take anything away from the forty nine ers,

2475
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 5: who played a great third quarter and deserve this win.

2476
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 5: They're the better team. But why did it take you

2477
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 5: that long? Why did it take you that long against

2478
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 5: the Ravens to wake up and actually move the football?

2479
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 5: This is just indicative of what they've dealt with all

2480
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 5: year and why I know you took a little bit

2481
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 5: of heat, but you also said the Cowboys were gonna

2482
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,839
Speaker 5: collapse this year. Oh weekly is watching the game like tonight.

2483
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 5: I'm on board with you. I think you're right. I

2484
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 5: think they're going nowhere fast.

2485
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was our step on the uh

2486
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 1: the tiny tiny table, tiny table, not the tiny box.

2487
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: Colleen. We would never step on.

2488
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 5: Her, would not step on Colleen.

2489
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 2: It's not looking good. I mean.

2490
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: CD made some nasty catches in this game, thirteen for one,

2491
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: six and two touchdowns. A lot of that came late,

2492
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: but he also had like an insane catch to start

2493
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: the game off on what ended up being a scoring drive.

2494
01:53:56,400 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 1: Like or they made good plays the forty nine ers,

2495
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: they just needed to get to their bye. You mentioned

2496
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 1: the injuries Bosa for most of the night really made

2497
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: a difference in this game, flushing Dak Prescott out, having

2498
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: a big sack, getting a lot of pressure, Perty made

2499
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 1: good decisions. Deebo Samuel gets a rib injury, so he

2500
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: plays and makes a big plays, has a big gainer

2501
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 1: in the first half four for seventy one overall. Pierce

2502
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: all gets involved four catches thirty eight yards and had

2503
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: a big time run in the second half, like Mason

2504
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 1: goes down, and you get good rushing production out of

2505
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Grendo and pretty This was just a survive in advance

2506
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: game for them. Get to the by, you get Tampa,

2507
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: who's been very erradicalming out of the by, and hopefully

2508
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 1: you get see you know, Christian McCaffrey back after the bye,

2509
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: and you have a chance. We're in an NFC West

2510
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: where all four teams have four losses. The Rams are

2511
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: at three and four, the other three are at four

2512
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 1: and four, and it's probably not gonnae of them.

2513
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 5: None of them look like world beaters, Like no is

2514
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 5: totally for the taking the forty nine. If there was

2515
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 5: every a year for the forty nine ers to have

2516
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 5: their lumps and have all these injuries and still be

2517
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 5: in the hunt, it's this year. He's winning a game

2518
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 5: like tonight puts them in a great spot.

2519
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point that you could look at

2520
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: it two ways, that the forty nine ers are ripe

2521
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: to be picked off, or you can look at another

2522
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: way like this, right now, we don't see a team

2523
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: like let's say the twenty twenty three Rams or certainly

2524
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Rams, where just a team that

2525
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 1: looks ready to take over this division, and the forty

2526
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: nine ers have gone about it the other way being

2527
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 1: the world beaters. Maybe they can figure out a way

2528
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: to be playing their best in December, which just feels

2529
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 1: like miles away right now. I did think it was

2530
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: important for Purdy to go out there and have a productive,

2531
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: efficient game against a very vulnerable defense. The Cowboys will

2532
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: get Micah Parsons back maybe next week, DeMarcus Lawrence at

2533
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: some point, but overall they just didn't have enough answers.

2534
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: You had all the answers though today shook.

2535
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Greg, I have one question for you

2536
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 5: before we wrap y, where is brock Party in your

2537
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 5: mind right now? Because he's had some stinkers. This Wow,

2538
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 5: this was not one of those he created, and he

2539
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 5: did throw the ball well, but he's had some stinkers.

2540
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad you ask it's they've been in the last month.

2541
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 1: We have Quarterback Island returning, So if you're listening, let

2542
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: us know who you think deserves to be on who

2543
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve to be on Quarterback Island. Maybe we'll take

2544
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: that into consideration before we tape a perty will be

2545
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:25,919
Speaker 1: an interesting discussion.

2546
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 2: He was an easy one the first one around.

2547
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 1: This time he won't be I think as much of

2548
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 1: a slam dunk, but I've got some opinions.

2549
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 2: I'll hold him for now. And yes, thank you for listening.

2550
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: If you made it this far, if you like these

2551
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: these juicy shows, this was a no bye week show,

2552
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 1: and yet we tried to get as much of the

2553
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 1: sound in as we can. Like, maybe this show is

2554
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: too long. I don't know, it's all in my head. Eric,

2555
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: like it is two hours too long. Let's say goodbye

2556
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 1: before it gets any longer. Let us know we love

2557
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: we love our listeners on NFL Daily, especially.

2558
01:56:56,040 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 2: The ones who are asking. Is Walker out of NFL

2559
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 2: Security prison?

2560
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 9: He is?

2561
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: He enjoyed the games at home today for Nick Schuck, Campwolf,

2562
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybahn, everyone behind the glass Randy Shop is Eric Roberts, H, Yeah,

2563
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys are blown it in primetime, you know

2564
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 1: football is back.