1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Everybody. I'm throwing back all the way to January. This one, 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: How Pet Psychics Worked. Boy oh boy, this one was 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: not great, But sometimes I like to pick those just 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: as a reminder of the peaks and valleys of this 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: show over the years. So here we go with How 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Pet Psychics Work. It's really not that bad. You'll probably 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Just give it a listen and then give 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: us a review on yelp. Three stars. Please. Welcome to 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w. Chuck. Right, 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: it's me. I mentioned myself already. Have I mentioned Jerry? Yeah? 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: I think so these just keep getting worse and worse. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Not the cheery's over there. We're all in the Christmas spirit. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: I think this is the last show we're recording this year, right, Yeah, 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: we're ahead of the game a little bit. Yea, So 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: we can have a cooshy couple of weeks. So, um, 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: we're hammered. Not true, No, not yet. You got your 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: coffee and I got my uh soda water laqua loquis 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: soda water. Yeah, my coffee is neither Spanish nor Irish. 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Nor anything like that. What a Spanish coffee. Oh, it's 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: the better of the two. What is it? Um? You 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: get a little well, it depends on your on your recipe, 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: but you get a little bit of rum. You get 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of triple sec or I can't remember 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: the other name for it, um, but good triple sec. 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Put them together in a like a tempered sniff ter 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: or an Irish coffee class fire tempered. Make sure it's 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: tempered or else you're about to hurt yourself. Bust on't 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: you light it? Um? You light the it's got to 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: be high proof from you like the rum uh triple 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: sec combo. Just let it burn out for a second, 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: or you could blow it up if you don't want 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: to burn off too much of the alcohol. And you 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: had some espresso, some kalua, and then top it off 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: with a little whip cream and nut. Mike, man, it's 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: good stuff. And that's just one version. There's plenty of 37 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: other versions of Spanish coffee that makes Irish coffee look silly. 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: They're just like I don't put down Irish coffee, coffee 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: and drinking pretty much. It's also called the eye opener. Yeah, 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I love the simplicity of the Irish just doing that 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: and I love that. Have you seen that country? I 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: don't know if it was a new one. Last week 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: I started watching The Simpsons again after like years off, 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: and it is. It's awesome back man, it is back. 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: There was one. I don't know if it was new 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: or not, but Crusty Um syndicated himself around the world 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: so he could make a lot more money. So there's 48 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: like a Jamaican Crusty. There's like a like all these 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: and then the Irish one. It was just like this 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: depressed alcoholic who would like sit at a at a 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: table on a chair and like the spare Room didn't 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: even do that really yeah, and like we just drink 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and say like these you know, really bleak depressing things. 54 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Is perfect and he ended up with his own like 55 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: stage show on Broadway and everything as the Irish Rusty. Yeah. Awesome, 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Have to check that out. Yeah, uh, 57 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: that was my intro to pet psychics. Alright, you know 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: that cat sitting over there knew everything. I was about 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: to say, Oh yeah, not many people know we have 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: a studio. Cat, No, man, I wish we did. How 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: awesome would that be? Studio CA. Yeah, it'd be great 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: to get game in here, wouldn't I it's already pretty 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: warm in here as it is. A cat would love that. Yeah, um, alright, 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: So pet psychics factor fiction? Uh their fiction? Are we 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: debunking right out of the thing? Well, you know, I'm 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I am of the forty and ilk alright, Like, I 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: think that using science as a means of avoiding scientific 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: investigation of something is a slap in the face of science, 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: and that science should be used to exhaust all avenues. 70 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: And just because we can't currently explain something using science 71 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I think that there's a 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: whole echelon of stuff out there that does exist that 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: we can't quite explain yet. Yeah. Sure, I don't know 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: if pet psychics fall into that one, but I'm not 75 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: one to just overtly poo pooh something out of hand. 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: That said, I had a hard time like taking this 77 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: entire article seriously. Well, you want to know something, Yeah, 78 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Emily just went to a pet psychic. I I thought 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: that there's probably like a nine chance that something like 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: that was going to come up. Yeah. Uh, you know, 81 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: we had to put Old Lucy down and Emily went 82 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: in the following week. We have a local pet psychic 83 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: and I'm there probably is, but um one near our house. 84 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: And she went and talk to this lady. Was it comforting? 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: It was? She said it was really interesting and um, 86 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: there was less talk about Lucy and more talk about 87 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: like me and our other animals. And um, she wouldn't 88 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: tell me a whole lot because she didn't want me 89 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: to poke fun at it, you know. And I tried 90 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: to be super supportive, and I was, Um, I thought 91 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: every instinct I had two. Uh, You're like, that sounds 92 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: like a great neat. How much was it? Um? But Emily, 93 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and she asked me not to say this, so of 94 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: course I'm going to say it. She is getting books 95 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: now herself to read and because she feels like she 96 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: is very intuitive with animals and and she is very 97 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: intuitive with animals, and so she's gonna poke around there 98 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: and not to do it for a living or anything, 99 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: just do with your own at home, Yeah, just to 100 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: see if she can become more in tune with our animals. Uh. 101 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: And they are called animal intuitives sometimes or communicators, not 102 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: necessarily pet psychics, because that makes you sound a little crazy. 103 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: It seems to be like a whole gamut of people 104 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: that would fall under the umbrella of pet psychics. Yeah, 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: like a horse whisper or Caesar Milan. Some people might 106 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: say as an animal communicator that they're just maybe more 107 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: in tune with the signals that animals send out, and 108 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: they can send signals to animals. Um, but that I 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: fully believe. Okay, So that's totally different from what a 110 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: person who claims to be a pet psychic says is 111 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: going on. Well, yeah, but not always like this lady 112 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Emily went to was sounded more like an animal intuitive 113 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: and communicator than uh, like a medium saying I'm talking 114 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: to Lucy. She's in a better place. She's playing with 115 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: your grandfather in heaven. Right. But there are pet psychics 116 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: that claim to do that, yeah, and charge people money 117 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: for that, Yeah, just like real psychics. Um, all right, 118 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Well I thought we already had, 119 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Well I guess we have. Um. I just wanted to 120 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: go ahead and drop that bomb about Emily. Um, I 121 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 1: think you're in trouble. So pet psychics, now, she didn't listen. 122 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: They they claim, Depending on who they are, there is 123 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: a spectrum of pet psychics like you said that claim 124 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: certain abilities, but some claim that they can actually telepathically 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: communicate with animals in mind and like one step beyond intuition, 126 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Like we're actually talking, right, Not only are we talking, 127 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: we're transferring images from one mind to another. UM. In 128 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: some cases they are talking like there's a pet psychic 129 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: UM who claims that when she speaks to animals, UM, 130 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: they respond to her in a childlike voice. That animals 131 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: have childlike voices, they speak like children, they do in 132 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: Disney movies, So why not UM? But the basically at 133 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: its most supernatural, I guess it's most extrasensory UM, pet psychics. 134 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: What they're claiming to do is a convergence of clairvoyance, 135 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: which is far sighte UM and telepathy, which is mind reading. 136 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: And they're putting these together. And then if you already 137 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: have a hard enough time swallowing that, you may have 138 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: an even harder time swallowing it when you realize that 139 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: they're saying they're doing this with animals, which may or 140 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: may not even be self aware. Yeah, Like it's tough too. 141 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: It's hard with humans to believe that someone might have 142 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: esp and telepathy and we speak the same language, so 143 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: it might be even a deeper reach to say that 144 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: you can do that with a dog. Let's say so, 145 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: kay Emily went to a pet psychic. Um. She went 146 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: after Lucy um passed on UM basically to find out 147 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: how Lucy was doing. Yeah. I think she was just 148 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: curious about the She had been curious for a while, 149 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: and this afforded her an opportunity to go see a 150 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: pet psychic. I think like it gave her a good reason. Okay, 151 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: so that's one reason people go see pet psychics UM 152 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: after the death of a pet. Another one is when 153 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: a pet is sick or injured or ailing. Tell me 154 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: if it's time to go. Um, which, man, that's gotta 155 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: be a lot to put on a pet psychic. That's 156 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: a lot to put on a vet, you know, although 157 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: I think vets are kind of like, yeah, let's just 158 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. No, that's not true. Um. 159 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: And then what if the what if the pet is 160 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: acting like a jerk all of a sudden. Yeah, that's 161 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: another reason people pets. My dog acting out, or maybe 162 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: my pet is lost. Can you tell me where my 163 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: pet is? Right? That's a little more of a niche thing. 164 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: Not all pet psychics will take on those cases, my 165 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: guess is because the success rate might not be great 166 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: and they don't want to you know, charge somebody for 167 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: something and not provide the service that they said they can. Yeah, 168 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: because I mean, unless you can talk to somebody into 169 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: giving up their bread for you just to say, yeah, 170 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: your dog will be home in a couple of weeks, yeah, 171 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: then you know, how are you gonna work that? Yeah, 172 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: you can't. But there are anecdotal success stories of locating 173 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: pets this way. If there weren't, this wouldn't be yeah 174 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: around and a skeptic will say that's just luck and coincidence, 175 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: like the dog was on its way home anyway, exactly, 176 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: This pet psychic didn't called to it with her mind, 177 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: that's right, Uh, psychics. Pet psychics say they UM use 178 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: electromagnetic energy to accomplish this, that there's this energy field 179 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: in the universe that science hasn't quite figured out yet, 180 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: but it exists, and we are able to pick up 181 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: on that energy and use that energy to speak to 182 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: your animals. UM, whether it's a childlike voice or like 183 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: I think most of them generally do it, and like 184 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: in pictures, which makes a little more sense to me. UM. 185 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: And this this this thing, this electromagnetic energy. There's this 186 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: guy who wrote a book. His name is Jay Alan Boone, 187 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: and he wrote a book called Kinship with All Life 188 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: and it apparently is the pet psychics Bible, and it's 189 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: um kind of his relationship with this German shepherd named Strongheart, 190 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: which was a Hollywood dog that he cared for starting 191 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I think the nineteen thirties, um and who he became 192 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: uh telepathically linked with intuitively linked to um. And basically, 193 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: Jay Alan Boone wrote this book on how to communicate 194 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: with animals and and it he mentions that all things 195 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: are connected by this thing called the primal cause midi 196 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Chlorean's right, and um, I think that's what the pet 197 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: psychic would say, Well, that's the electromagnetic energy. The point 198 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: is that since it binds all things, we can just 199 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: kind of use that too to connect to the mind 200 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: of another thing, human or animal. Right, because we're all 201 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: connected by this, right, It's a lovely thought. Uh. Animal 202 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Planet actually had a show, yeah, for a little while 203 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: about ten years ago called the Pet Psychic and the 204 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: lady on there, what's her name, Fitzpatrick. Yes, she claimed 205 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: that she picked up this in childhood as a result 206 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: of a hearing loss um, although other people say they 207 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: pick it up as adults after studying it and not 208 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: necessarily born with a gift. But they just studied how 209 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: to be more in tune with animals, right, and apparently 210 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them discovered that they had this gift 211 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: after they saw the pet psychic on Animal Planet. I 212 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: was that right, That's what Tracy says in this article. Okay, 213 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: I wonder what that sounds like one of those statements 214 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: the cheaty research on that. I don't know she do 215 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: a pole. Well, I think they definitely did kick off 216 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: a trend. If it didn't capitalize on it, it definitely 217 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: kicked it off. All right. So you go to your 218 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: pet psychic. You're gonna go into a room and they're 219 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna do something like this, Uh, not exactly like this, 220 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: depending on their methods, but they're probably gonna like just 221 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: relax until you to calm down, and they will make 222 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: contact with the energy of the animal and then they 223 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: will actually try and contact the said animal telepathically, right, 224 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: like ask a question of the animal, or they'll they'll 225 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: they'll call its name or something and get its attention 226 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: to yeah, or have a picture a lot of times, like, 227 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: you don't need the animal there necessarily. In fact, a 228 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: lot of times I think the animal is not there 229 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: because why do you need the animal? Now you don't. 230 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: You've got the great cause, the primal cause exactly. So 231 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: they go like this with their mind. If they do, 232 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: and then they well, except whatever response they get, relay 233 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: that back to you, ask you some more questions or 234 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: if you have any more questions, and basically act as 235 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: the go between between you communicating with your pet. Like 236 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: just like you would think it goes down, your pet 237 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: is saying that there. Uh, they're not happy with the 238 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: new couch and that's why they're being on it or 239 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: ever since you uh took that promotion into middle management, 240 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: you've changed man. Yeah, and I'm not happy with this 241 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: new you. That's why I keep chewing your suits exactly. Um, 242 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: they are going to Uh. It's it's pretty controversial, as 243 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: we pointed out, because there isn't any hard science behind it. 244 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: There's no proof of this electromagnetic energy, and a lot 245 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: of people believe in energy. I mean, electromagnetic energy does exist, yeah, 246 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: not this kind of magnetic Yeah. I just fun to 247 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: make sure everyone knew that we believe in electro magnetic 248 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: but they haven't picked up they haven't proven that there's 249 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: any actual like sensory organ in people or animals that 250 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: allow them to tune into this energy. Does that make 251 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: more sense? Yeah, so so during these pet psychic sessions 252 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: when the when the the purpose of this normally is 253 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of a problem, say like 254 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: we said, or to get some sort of comfort, or 255 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: even for decision making. Um. The problem is when a 256 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: pet psychic asks an animal what's going on and the 257 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: animals thought to respond, well, this, I'm doing this because 258 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: of this. So beyond the telepathy, beyond the clairvoyance involved, 259 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: there's still the question of whether an animal is capable 260 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: of that higher level of reasoning and thought. Yeah, right, 261 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that it would be aware of its own reasons for 262 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: its behavior. That in and of itself is a controversial 263 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: aspect of this whole topic. Yeah, that's self awareness. Like, Um, 264 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot of animal intuitives believe that animals are basically 265 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: kind of like people. They just can't talk, they experience 266 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the emotions there, they're self aware, um, and they're just 267 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: not trapped, but they're in an animal's body. Um. And 268 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: when you look at your pets. You may think they're 269 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: experiencing emotions, and it's a controversial subject because it's not 270 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: something you can prove. Well, it's been it's become more 271 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: and more proven over the years. Yeah, Like nowadays it 272 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: is accepted that animals can feel certain emotions. Yeah, especially 273 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: the basic ones like yeah, like stress, fear, fear, upsettedness. Yeah, um, 274 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: rage I think is one um lust, separation, distress. But 275 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to define emotion period, much less than in 276 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: an animal. Right. But the the idea that um emotions 277 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: just belong to humans or even humans and higher primates 278 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: is is definitely faded. Um. We are aware that animals 279 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: can't experience basic emotions. They can probably experience even higher 280 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: emotions too. Like if you look at a dog and 281 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: your dog looks sad and it's sad because you're leaving, 282 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: you may be correct. You know your dog pretty well. 283 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: And we've reached the point where science is starting to 284 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: come to grips with the idea that yes, animals can 285 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: experience some higher emotions as well. Sure, And there was 286 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: actually a conference at Cambridge University in two thousand twelve, 287 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: and uh it was a pretty heavy hitting conference. Um, 288 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: like I mean, the people involved were no louches, and 289 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: they came up with the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness and 290 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: they basically said that, um, the the components that you 291 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: need to experience emotions and consciousness are not relegated to 292 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: the cortex, meaning it's not just humans that have that 293 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: are capable. They have the hardware for experiencing consciousness, right. Um. 294 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: They also said that if you artificially stimulate um uh, 295 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: the neural circuits that are responsible for different aspects of 296 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: consciousness and humans, you can stimulate the same things in 297 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: animals too, which suggests that they have the same equipment. Um, 298 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: you can also disrupt those circuits using hallucinogens and humans 299 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: and animals and since they have all the equipment all 300 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: the science point to, said this group of neuroscientists and 301 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: um other professionals. They said, there is a pretty good chain. 302 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: It's that it's not just humans who are experiencing consciousness. 303 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: The things that the trappings of consciousness, like higher emotions, 304 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: self awareness, the things that make us human. Animals might 305 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: have that make them animals. But the people who think 306 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: that if your dog is sad, you're probably right, are right. 307 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: Dog likes you around and it might be happy when 308 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: you're home, yeah, and sad when you leave. And the 309 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: whole reason that this has been a thing is simply 310 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: because humans haven't been able to figure out how to 311 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: accurately test what is an emotion in an an animal. 312 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: Because animals can't say I'm feeling like this right now. 313 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: We can be like, that's love. You're feeling love. Yeah, 314 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: like when a mother cares for puppies, it's showing it 315 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: looks like it's showing love. Or is it oxytocin hormone 316 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: in the body that says you need to care for 317 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: your young Is it love or care? Or does animal 318 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: realize it's it's love or care? Well, that's the big one, 319 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: because you can say we have that same exact neural 320 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: circuit and we react to oxytocin the exact same way. 321 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: So you know, if it's love for us, why isn't 322 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: it love for the animal? Well, the key is is 323 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: we think about it. We're thinking, I feel so good 324 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: about taking care of my baby. That means I love 325 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: my baby. That makes me even happier. That's called metic cognition. 326 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: That's where most people are drawing the line with animals 327 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: these days. They might be able to experience some pretty 328 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: high um emotions. They may be self aware, but the 329 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: ability to think about their emotions and the implications of 330 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: their emotions or think about thinking, that's metic cognition. And 331 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: not everybody agrees on that one. That's the new threshold 332 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: that we're at. It seems like for animals, whether or 333 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: not they're capable of metic cognition. So if an animal 334 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: sees itself in the mirror, knowses itself, is that self awareness, Yeah, 335 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: which would be a form of metic cognition, But that's 336 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: that's not proven. That's where a lot of people. You'll 337 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: lose a lot of people now, whereas ten years ago, 338 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: even saying that an animal could experience happiness or joy 339 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: um would have lost a lot of people. So who knows. 340 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: In ten years from now, maybe everyone will agree that 341 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: animals experienced madiccognition. Yeah, grief is definitely one I've seen 342 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: firsthand a lot. Yeah, we talked about it in the 343 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: Grief episode. Yeah. Um, And when we put Lucy down, 344 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: they recommend that we did in our house, they recommend 345 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: that the pet not see that act, but then they 346 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: come in afterward so they see the body and so 347 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: they can understand what's going on, and so they don't 348 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: spend time looking for that animal. And uh, we did 349 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: that with Buckley and Charlie and let them back in, 350 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: and uh, Charlie was stressed. We didn't think about it. 351 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: She was a feral dogs, so she gets stressed when 352 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: other people are in the house. So we forgot this 353 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: vet lady was in there. So Charlie's just stressed running around. 354 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: Buckley goes up Sniff's Lucy and it was really sad, 355 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure. And he was different for about four or 356 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: five days, seem depressed to me. And when we would 357 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: take him on walks and come back, he would still 358 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: run around to all the rooms, I think looking for 359 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Lucy because he never had done that before. He usually 360 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: just walks in and lays down, but he literally would 361 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: go to each room. Um. So I definitely think there's 362 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: there are things like grief, whether or not the dog 363 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: realizes it's grief, Like who cares? You know, That's what 364 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, I mean, it's still experiencing on that 365 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: virtually the same level, right, Yeah, and at its most 366 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: profound level, that gut experience of grief. Yeah, And I 367 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: think the whole the fine line here with investigating or 368 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: talking about whether or not animals can experience these things. 369 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: Is you're walking this edge where on one side you 370 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: have anthropocentrism, where you're just like, no, they can't, only 371 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: humans can. Humans are the greatest ever, and you're forgetting 372 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: that we're animals as well. Then the other side you 373 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: have anthropomorphizing, where you're attributing you know, human attributes to 374 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: animals unduly. So it's kind of like you have to 375 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: so happy because we're putting up the Christmas tree exactly. 376 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: Buckley is happy because we're in there having a good 377 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: time and drinking some magnag and like the music so 378 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: onward dancing right exactly. So you have to resist both 379 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: of those temptations to just kind of keep plodding along 380 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: down the line scientifically. But I think ultimately, as we 381 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: go down that line, we're going to finally come to 382 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: as a species, hopefully the idea that like, animals should 383 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: not be in zoos or tested on or whatever, because 384 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: they are a lot closer to us consciousness wise than 385 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: we currently understand or want to admit right now. Agreed. Um, 386 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: All right, well we're gonna talk a little bit about 387 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: pet psychics and like contradictions between them, UM, and what 388 00:23:52,320 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: might be going on here right after this message break. Okay, 389 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: so there are some contradictions. UM. If you go to 390 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: tin pet psychics who are probably gonna have ten different, 391 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: eleven opinions, eleven different stories about what's going on, which 392 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: is one reason it makes it hard to swallow for 393 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: some people. UM. Again, I feel like since we went 394 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: to break and came back, it's this is a good 395 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: time to read it. Write like I'm not I'm not 396 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: poo pooing intuitiveness, No, I'm not poo pooing UM. And 397 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: some people's ability a greater ability than others to really 398 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: kind of connect to animals and and and understand them 399 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: or um deal with them however you want to put it. 400 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: It's when it strays into telepathy and clairvoyance that UM, 401 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: I start to become skeptical. Yeah, I know what you mean. 402 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: And I think I think some people are more in 403 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: tune with other humans than others. Some people have their 404 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: heads up their butts and are completely absorbed in their 405 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: own little universe. Other people, I think, seek out UM 406 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: input from other things, whether it's people or animals. They're 407 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: always looking for something. UM. Just you know justin his mom. Carrie, 408 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people, is one of the most 409 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: in tune intuitive people I've ever met in my life 410 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: because she's she's a studier of people like you can 411 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: see her man when there's a party going on, she'll 412 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: be sitting back and watching. Yeah. Yeah she's weird. No, 413 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: she's not weird at all. She's awesome. But she's she 414 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: watches and she's you know, I don't I don't know 415 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: if it's a gift as much as it is something 416 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: you can work on. Yeah, I think it remove your 417 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: head from your butt and pay attention. UM. So some contradictions, 418 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: like you might see a Fitzpatrick that says, um, your 419 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: animal ratted you out about something. You might go to 420 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: another Pet Sidekick that says animals would never do that, 421 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: they're loyal. So the story supposedly according to um Sonja 422 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick from the Pet Sidekick show, UM, animals are very 423 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: gossipy and um, they like to tell one another all 424 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: your secrets. That's hilarious to me. And she told the story. 425 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: She wrote a book called UM What the Animals Tell Me? 426 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: And she told the story about a turtle that she 427 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: was communicating with and the turtle told her that it 428 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: would love to have a fish friend as a pet. 429 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: So Sonia Fitzpatrick introduced a fish to this turtles tank 430 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: and the turtle was like, thanks, chump, and ate the fish. 431 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: And so she said, why did you eat the fish? 432 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: And the turtle said, well, I knew that if I 433 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: asked you for a fish to eat, you wouldn't give 434 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: it to me, So I just tricked you. Basically, So 435 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: animals are gossipy and wiley and have the potential to lie. Yeah, 436 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: you should not trust animals. Uh. Debbie McGillivray, she wrote 437 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pets like a Communication. Um, 438 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: she's the one that said no, no no, no, animals are loyal, 439 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: They're innocent. They would never write you out, they would 440 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: never lie to you like that or embarrass you. So um. 441 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: It makes it tougher to swallow when you have people 442 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: saying these wildly different things, not about what they're picking up, 443 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: but the fact that no animals do this, No animals 444 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: do this, like, which is it right? But you could 445 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: say the same thing about humans, you know, like if 446 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: you hang out with certain humans, you can be like 447 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: some humans like humans gossip they'll they'll tell other people 448 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: all of your terrible secrets. Other people might have hung 449 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: out with the Waltons and they're like, no, humans are 450 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: all loyal, it's all. It's all about your perception and 451 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: your experience. That's right. So what might be going on 452 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: here is what's known as a cold reading. Yeah, the 453 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: actual any success or what appears to be success, Yeah, 454 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: telepathically among pet psychics, cold readings. Yeah. Esp people use 455 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: cold readings to explain that fortune telling, tarot card palm reading, 456 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: crystal balls, you name it. Uh. A skeptic will say 457 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: that what a cold reading is is the following. They 458 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: are maybe stating the obvious. Your cat loves to your cats, 459 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: telling me it loves to lay in the window and 460 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: look at the world outside. And the person goes, oh 461 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: my god, the wizard loves that. All cats love that exactly, 462 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: So that might happen in your reading. Um. They might 463 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: also use very vague language like, um, so he says, 464 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: your dog says something has changed around here, and you go, oh, yeah, 465 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I just accepted this middle management promotion. And the pet 466 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: psychics says, yes, that's it. That that exactly, that's the 467 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: this new thing that's changed. And you said earlier that 468 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: your dog was chewing up your new shoes, and that's 469 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: why your dog is not happy with this change, so 470 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: he's chewing your shoes. I am a psychic. That's that's 471 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: how they finish every reading too. But they throw their 472 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: arms up in the area and shout that, Well, it's 473 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: interesting because what might be happening there is is your 474 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: dog might be chewing up your shoes because you did 475 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: get that job because you're working in extra fifteen hours 476 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: a week and your dog has separation anxiety, So ironically 477 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: it might be actually on the money. But uh, the 478 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: disconnect comes in when the psychic says that your dog 479 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: told him that exactly, Um what else? Um? Or about this? 480 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Here's another way to state the obvious, your dog. I'm 481 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: looking at a picture of your dog and they chew 482 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: on their paws all the time, and say they itch 483 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: And that's because in the picture they have like a 484 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: bandage on their pall. Or you went in and I 485 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: forgot you said, my dog is chewing their paws all 486 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: the time. What's the deal with that? Like they'll they'll glean. 487 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: These bits have been formation without you maybe even necessarily 488 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: recognizing that by asking you questions and then they make 489 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: that part of their cold reading. But then asking questions 490 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: is another one too. It's fishing for details. It's like 491 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: I see that your dog is wearing a green and 492 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: then you say blue blue collar. Your dog is wearing 493 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: a blue collar. Um, So every time something is that 494 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: that you indicate something is correct, it'll be restated, rephrased, 495 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: respoken as if the psychic is saying it, and you're 496 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: you're so unwrapped in this whole thing that you're just 497 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: missing the fact that you're feeding them the information that 498 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: they're giving to you as a psychic reading. Because this 499 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: isn't just pet psychics. No, Like generally, if you go 500 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: into a psychic, you are there because you want to 501 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: believe and you are seeking an answer. Um, if a 502 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: dude like you or I went into a pet psychic, 503 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have much luck because we would go 504 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: in there looking to shoot holes in it. And uh, 505 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: I did encourage Emily. I was like going there with 506 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: an open mind. You know, I would go in there 507 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: with an open mind. I see, I don't think I could. 508 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: I would, I wasn't invited. I would try at the 509 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: very least, I don't. I would if I were going 510 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: to go in there just to poop poo. I just 511 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't go. Well, yeah, you know, because I mean, who 512 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: wants to do that? Jerks? There are plenty of them 513 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: out there too. No, that's true. Um, But Emily did 514 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: say that she was she made a point to not 515 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: reveal too much and to sort of watch out for 516 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: those cold reading tricks. And she said, I didn't reveal 517 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: a whole lot, and she she gave me back something, 518 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: So she's a believer. Well, um that that whatever she 519 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: spent on that so dropping the bucket. Compared to what 520 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: people spend on their pets these days, it's a little 521 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: crazy these days, not just for pet psychics but just 522 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: in general. Yeah. Um, Americans spent sixty one billion dollars 523 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: billion with a B dollars in two thousand on their pets. 524 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: Sixty one billion dollars and that was up from thirty 525 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: six billion in two thousand five and seventeen billion. What's 526 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: the current number, sixty one billion? Boy? I mean things 527 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: have really, I don't want to they gotten out of hand, 528 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: but you definitely notice in the past decade more uh, 529 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: doggy spas and stuff like that around. Well, there's supposedly 530 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: more disposable income. Yeah. Uh, and there are more people 531 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: who are not having kids. Oh so they're just dumping 532 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: their money into their pets. Well, good get them off 533 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: the street people, That's what I say. The point is 534 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: for spending sixty one billion dollars on our pets, and 535 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: it keeps increasing, almost doubling every few years, now every 536 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: eight nine years. Um, petsichkicks are not going anywhere. No, 537 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: they're not there. Here is stay. I've got one more 538 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: um stat for you. There was a poll in two 539 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: thousand eight that found that sixty seven of pet owners 540 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: say they understand their animals purrs or barks or other noises, 541 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: and said that when they speak, their pet understands them 542 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: or at least they're intent. Um. And one in five 543 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: owners claim they their pets understand each other completely like 544 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: the two pets do. And one quarter of cat owners 545 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: say they completely understood their pet sounds. Only dog owners 546 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: said they were fluting barks. So I guess those are 547 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: two different poles that are wildly different in their numbers. 548 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: I think people can and animals since a lot of 549 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: subtle micro expressions and body language, and that is just 550 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that is communication. So don't you think that's 551 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: just a result of proximity around another living being, you know, 552 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: just living with something, whether it's a person or an animal, 553 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: like you get to know them in their mannerisms and 554 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: like you can read them. And that is, like I said, 555 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: micro expressions is a form of communication, I think. So 556 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: it's not like I think, Sure you can communicate with 557 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: your dog. Uh, but it may not be telepathically like 558 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: a conversation. But if it feels as easy as a 559 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: telepathic conversation, then you you've got it going on with 560 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: your pet. Yeah. And again, if you want to go 561 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: out and drop your dough on a pet psychic, more 562 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: power to you. You probably get something out of it. 563 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: Same here. Uh. If you want to know more about 564 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: pet psychics, type those words into the search bar at 565 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. And since I said search parts, 566 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: time for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this uh 567 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: go Figgi Puddings remember that in our alive Probably well, 568 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: I'll just go and read it the semester. Guys, I'm 569 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: studying abroad in the UK at the University of Hertfordshire. 570 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: During my travel exactly during my travels, your podcasts help 571 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: me pass the time of plane and train rides while 572 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: learning new things and hearing the American accent I miss 573 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: so much. I just listened to a zero scientific for me. 574 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: For funny, you mentioned Richard Wiseman from the University of 575 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Hertforshire and Josh said, go figgy Puddings, which was very funny. 576 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't have thought of that. You could not that quick. 577 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: I was a little taken aback guy, since you're always 578 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: dead on with your university team names, I regret to 579 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: inform you that u H does not have a team 580 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: called the Figgy Pudding Zo. They're actually the University of 581 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: Hertfordshire Hurricanes. It was this guy's joking right now, I 582 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: was joking. Oh yeah, well yeah, I think so boy, 583 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: I think so Andrew he knew Josh's joking, right, please 584 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: the Andrew. I think so. Um, we are the Hurricanes, 585 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: which is a little weird since they have more figgy 586 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: Puddings here than hurricanes. There's not a lot of hurricanes 587 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: over there and there. No, I don't think so they 588 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: tend to come this way. Yeah. The h Hurricanes are 589 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: actually one of the best British American football teams around, 590 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: with four national championships, but I think he corrected himself 591 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: in a subsequent email. I think there were five and 592 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: twelve division titles. Since just want to set the record straight. 593 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Also wanted to thank you guys for such a consistently 594 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: great show, and that is Andrew Million, go Kaine, and Um. 595 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: I think he I hope he knows you're joking. Well, 596 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: he said he was taken aback. I think he was kidding. 597 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: I hope I don't know that he was joking. Go 598 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: with that. 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