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Speaker 1: Welcome to Colts Round Table Live on ninety three five

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Speaker 1: Here's the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor. Hey, good evening, everybody.

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Speaker 1: last show of the two thousand and twenty two season,

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Speaker 1: as the campaign wrapped up. Yesterday for the Colts, they

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Speaker 1: and then converted a two point conversion to take the

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Speaker 1: with a record of four to twelve and one their

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Speaker 1: worst mark since the two thousand and seventeen season. The

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Speaker 1: Colts also dropped ten of their last eleven games to

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Speaker 1: end the year, and with a loss to Houston, the

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Speaker 1: Colts record against the AFC South this season was just

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Speaker 1: one four and one, their worst division record since the

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Speaker 1: AFC South was formed. On Sunday, Sam Ellinger started the

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Speaker 1: The Colts trailed by ten points on three different occasions yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately that in that game yesterday and microcouse him

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Speaker 1: Colts are set to pick fourth in the upcoming draft

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Speaker 1: in the spring. The last time the Colts picked in

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Speaker 1: back to twenty twelve when the Colts drafted Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot to get into. Tonight, as per usual,

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Speaker 1: we'll put the season to bed and talk about what

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Speaker 1: in the off season and just a bit We'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by former Colts Rick fin Terry and Joe Writes,

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Speaker 1: and we're taking your questions tonight on Twitter. Later on

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Speaker 1: Roundtable and we'll squeeze in as many of those as

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Speaker 1: we can tonight. And also, Jeff Saturday, interim head coach

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Speaker 1: Always appreciate the time and your insight, and it's always

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much joy? How much fun did you

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Speaker 1: Joe says, you're gonna take a deep breath and start

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Speaker 1: on the draft, free agency and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: But when you're undetermined like this, it's just torture because

427
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Speaker 1: now your mind goes from that total immersion and you

428
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Speaker 1: put not that you're not worried about job security, but

429
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Speaker 1: it's in the recesses of your mind man today, it's

430
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Speaker 1: in the frontal lobe and all of a sudden, now

431
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Speaker 1: you know, depending on your contract, you might be two

432
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Speaker 1: months away from you know, that contract being over. Um,

433
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Speaker 1: you know, you got a wife and kids to think about.

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Speaker 1: Miss Sherry reminded me today how happy we are that

435
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Speaker 1: we're not involved, and that's in the rearview mirror because

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Speaker 1: you know, we she reminded me, we lived in eighteen houses,

437
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Speaker 1: you know, eighteen homes over the years, and that doesn't

438
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Speaker 1: even that didn't even count the rentals. So I mean,

439
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Speaker 1: you know, it is a really tough deal. And you

440
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Speaker 1: you know, you start to network. More coaches have agents today.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have that in my days, so you know,

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Speaker 1: immediately you you start to network. I always wanted quick definition.

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Speaker 1: You know, you tell me if I'm going to be here,

444
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be here, and then I'll go on,

445
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Speaker 1: don't don't hang me up. That's the worst thing, because

446
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, these jobs fill and these assistance jobs. You know,

447
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Speaker 1: guys guys that get head jobs, they know who they're

448
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Speaker 1: going to hire. It's not like they go through a

449
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Speaker 1: big process after they have the job. You're not going

450
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Speaker 1: to get a job unless you could define a staff

451
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Speaker 1: before you get there to the owner and GM, I mean,

452
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. So, I mean, these things fill

453
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Speaker 1: up really quickly. So you know, all of a sudden,

454
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Speaker 1: you go from total immersion, you know, to this brutal

455
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Speaker 1: you know part of it that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's now I gotta take care of my family. All

457
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the family comes into focus big time,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, Well, let's talk about the offseason

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Speaker 1: primer here. So the off season is officially here for

460
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Speaker 1: the Colts, you know, closing the season on that seven

461
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: game skid to drop to four twelve and one, worst

462
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Speaker 1: record for the Colts since twenty seventeen. Joe and Rick.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Rick Venturi and Joe Rights here on

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Speaker 1: Colts Roundtable Live. I'm Matt Taylor. With that, Let's lay

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Speaker 1: out the blueprint for the Colts here in the off

466
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Speaker 1: season and get into some of the big questions that

467
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Speaker 1: the franchise is going to have to answer here in

468
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Speaker 1: the coming months. Let's talk about the coaching search with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday meeting with the media earlier today. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That was his last obligation as interim head coach. Of

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Speaker 1: the Colts. Jeff Saturday has stated that he wants to

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Speaker 1: be considered for the position on a full time basis,

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Speaker 1: but the Colts are obviously going to have to go

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Speaker 1: through that process. They're gonna have to adhere to the

475
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Speaker 1: Rooney rule coming up and interview a lot of different

476
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Speaker 1: candidates for this coaching job. Joe loaded question here. I know,

477
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Speaker 1: and Rick, I'll get your thoughts on it as well,

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Speaker 1: but one in seven eight games for Jeff Saturday, Joe,

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Speaker 1: how do you assess the job that Jeff did in

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Speaker 1: his eight game interim stint? I know there's a lot there,

481
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Speaker 1: There's a lot you can look at and unfold, but

482
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Speaker 1: how do you even go about assessing the job that

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday did considering he was thrown into a bad situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's really an eye in terms of the

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Speaker 1: old incomplete because Jeff doesn't have that previous head coaching experience,

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Speaker 1: so there's nothing else to go on versus eight games.

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Speaker 1: And I know Jeff, you know, commented earlier and spoke

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Speaker 1: to you know, he kind of came in midseason and

489
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Speaker 1: didn't get the chance to really put his stamp on

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Speaker 1: things right, and if he was there he would do

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Speaker 1: things differently. But certainly, I think what hangs over Jeff's

492
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Speaker 1: head is the magnitude of kind of some of these

493
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Speaker 1: historic losses, the thirty three point Dallas game, the thirty

494
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Speaker 1: three nothing, you know, debacle in Minnesota, and that is definitely,

495
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Speaker 1: I'm sure in the forefront of everybody's mind, including mister Ursey.

496
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Speaker 1: It started well, I guess in his interim ways and

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Speaker 1: I know coach, you know, Venturi talked about you're naturally

498
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Speaker 1: going to get that boost, but you know, things really

499
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Speaker 1: did fade towards the finish line, especially losing a home

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Speaker 1: to Houston yesterday. So I fully expect Jeff to you know,

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Speaker 1: he'll get an interview, and I'm guessing that there's been

502
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Speaker 1: three or four really serious candidates and he'll be one

503
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Speaker 1: of them into the mix. And you mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Rooney rule and adhere into that. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: Jim Ursay will make his decision which way he wants

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Speaker 1: to go and for the franchise. But I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess for me, it's really this offseason is just so

508
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Speaker 1: so important for the redirection of this franchise, reprogramming, whatever

509
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Speaker 1: you want to call it. But you know, There's been

510
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Speaker 1: a culture of winning at a high level for a long, long,

511
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Speaker 1: long time here in Indi Annapolis, and unfortunately that has

512
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Speaker 1: eroded over the last two years, really the last twelve months.

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Speaker 1: And if you're again Jim and the Ursay family, you've

514
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Speaker 1: got to get that back. That's what it's most important

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Speaker 1: to me, and that has to be at the forefront

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Speaker 1: of all these decisions for the franchise this offseason. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I come from a different world really,

518
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Speaker 1: you know, I've been through interim jobs myself. I've seen

519
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Speaker 1: interim coaches. I work for him, I've seen it happen

520
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Speaker 1: over the years. You know, in my world, he gets

521
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: a very poor grade, okay, and maybe no fault of

522
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Speaker 1: his own. I just feel like that, you know, he's

523
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Speaker 1: way over his head. You know. It's like you it's

524
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Speaker 1: like you take a chiropractor and you make him the

525
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Speaker 1: head surgeon at Ascension or at the Cleveland Clinic. It's

526
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Speaker 1: just you know, you're you're you're a snorkeler. You have

527
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Speaker 1: a surface knowledge of what this job is all about,

528
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Speaker 1: and you're in the You're in the ocean, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: with guys that have learned their craft and busted their

530
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Speaker 1: craft than our totally knowledgeable eight to Z and it's

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Speaker 1: just not it's just not the same. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we can rationalize, he can rationalize on why, you know

533
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Speaker 1: what he why he couldn't do this, But you know,

534
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's seven games. That

535
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: last seven games. I would say I was here in

536
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Speaker 1: the eighties, early nineties, you know, I remember ninety eight,

537
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Speaker 1: I remember two thy eleven, and I would say that

538
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Speaker 1: there is no worst stretch in the history of Indianapolis

539
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Speaker 1: Coast football than that last seven. I think it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think some of the games were historic.

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Speaker 1: I thought the you know, his quarterback decisions were really bad.

542
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Speaker 1: I mean, ellingers definitely should have played the last three games.

543
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Speaker 1: At worst. You know, we had runs of thirty one,

544
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: thirty two, and thirty three in different games, unanswered points.

545
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Speaker 1: Our fourth quarter was disastrous right down to yesterday in

546
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Speaker 1: a game management, game in and game out, which has

547
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with how many coaches you have or

548
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, what your philosophy is, just wasn't very good.

549
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Speaker 1: A matter of fact, yesterday the fans made the best decisions.

550
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: So I guess if he's the head coach, would have

551
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: to have a fanometer over there to figure out what

552
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: we're going to do. But it's not totally unexpected. Again,

553
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's really not qualified for this situation. And basically,

554
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say this to you, this is what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say about going forward, Okay, and I'm

556
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Speaker 1: going to use I use this yes last week in

557
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: a different context. And you look at those playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: those teams that are in it, right down to the

559
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Speaker 1: Pete Carrolls and some guys that somehow manage to get

560
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Speaker 1: their team in there. But I'm going to use the

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Speaker 1: two examples again to this week. First of all, you

562
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Speaker 1: have the Giants who go from four and thirteen to

563
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Speaker 1: a legitimate playoff going to be a contender here and

564
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Speaker 1: basically because they brought in legitimate, stated the art coaches

565
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Speaker 1: in day ball in Martindale. Then let's go over to

566
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who were three and fourteen a year ago,

567
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: just really a joke, and you bring in Peterson and

568
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: call Well to coach the defense, and all of a sudden,

569
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Speaker 1: that is a team that now ends up winning the

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Speaker 1: AFC South. So to me, it just proves just how

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Speaker 1: much really coaches matter. And I'll be honest with you.

572
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Speaker 1: If we don't go out at this point in time

573
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Speaker 1: and hire a state of the art NFL head coach

574
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Speaker 1: and who will have a staff, you know, basically who

575
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Speaker 1: is tactically superior, who coaches aggressively, creatively and can teach,

576
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: then we are gonna if we don't do that, we

577
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: are gonna be mired down into, as Jimmy Hendricks would say,

578
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: this purple haze of just woeful football. Now, I'll just

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Speaker 1: put it that way. Rick vent Terry right there, Joe

580
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: Rights is along tonight. This is Colts Roundtable Live, the

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Speaker 1: final edition of the show for the two and twenty

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Speaker 1: two season. I'm Matt Taylor. Let's quickly talk about quarterback

583
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Speaker 1: examination because as you look at it, Fellas, technically Matt

584
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Speaker 1: Ryan and Nick Foles are under contract for two twenty three.

585
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan spoke in the media today and said, as

586
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Speaker 1: long as I'm under contract, it's gonna be my you know,

587
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: routine to continue to to get ready to play for

588
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: the upcoming season. But it's it's fair to wonder if

589
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on the roster next season. With the

590
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Speaker 1: Colts holding the fourth overall pick in the draft coming up,

591
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: for now and also to a new head coach and

592
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: some changes there. We know about the financials for Matt

593
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: Ryan and Nick Foles has said that. He said a

594
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: couple of times that, you know, he signed a two

595
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: year deal with the Colts in the off season to

596
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: be reunited with Frank Reich, who's no longer on the

597
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: staff here with the Colts obviously, So Joe again loaded question,

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Speaker 1: I understand this, but but do you expect the Colts

599
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: to move on from Ryan and Foles this offseason and

600
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: to a different direction at quarterback with the Colts drafting

601
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: so high for the first time in a long time

602
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Speaker 1: in the upcoming draft. I do, And I think we've

603
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: been in this quarterback carousel really for the last three

604
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: years with veterans and you know, Philip Rivers to Carson

605
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: Wentz to now Matt Ryan, and you know, obviously things

606
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: didn't work out like mad At thought and everybody else

607
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: and myself included, I really thought he was going to

608
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: come in here and lead this team to playoffs. But

609
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, he was benched on really

610
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: two different occasions, and Nick Foles wasn't the number two,

611
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: and then he was the number two, and then he started,

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00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: and you mentioned him in Frank's close relationship. We've talked

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Speaker 1: at length about, you know, wish and Ellinger got some

614
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: more time to really see what he's about. But I

615
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: expected to be a different direction. I expect Ellinger to

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Speaker 1: be here and in this quarterback room next year, but

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some different faces for sure. Rick,

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Speaker 1: Is is it time? I mean, is now the time

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Speaker 1: to turn things over to that that high end drafted quarterback,

620
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: that young guy going forward? Yeah, I think it's absolutely time.

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Speaker 1: If we as an organization don't realize and don't see

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Speaker 1: that we have hit bottom. I mean, the only thing

623
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Speaker 1: that's preventing us from going to lower is there's no

624
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: more contest. I mean, you can't go lower than we

625
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: have in the last seven weeks. And it's you know,

626
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: you've basically become almost a laughing stock to the rest

627
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Speaker 1: of the league. And so if there ever is a

628
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Speaker 1: time to totally reshape how you live, what you do,

629
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Speaker 1: how you draft, how you coach, it's right now because

630
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Speaker 1: you're at the bottom. So let's take our first step

631
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Speaker 1: going forward. And the two most important things going forward

632
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: is going to be your head coach. As I just

633
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Speaker 1: mentioned before. Who really needs to be a state of

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Speaker 1: the art X and O leader, basically organized. Everything has

635
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: got to be there. That's one and one A and

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Speaker 1: they have to merge is you have to get a young,

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Speaker 1: top flight quarterback. I agree with Joe and you know,

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00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: you know Fols definitely he's not going to be here.

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00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Jim ever wanted him here in number two.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you release Ryan, you're gonna save seventeen

641
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: million dollars. And I don't I don't think anybody wants

642
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: to see him play any longer here. He's a great guy.

643
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's had a heck of a career, but

644
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: not here. I think what I've seen in a snapshot

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Speaker 1: of Ellinger is and you know, it's tough. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm half angry at the staff because they didn't

647
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Speaker 1: go with him after they decided to bench Ryan the

648
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Speaker 1: second time. I would have liked to see him in

649
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: five full games. But what I saw yesterday in a snapshot, again,

650
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Speaker 1: just like the Commanders, is a guy that can move us,

651
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: the guy that can score twice in the red zone,

652
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: that looked really good on his feet, that made plays

653
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: that weren't there, that gave you a college type play.

654
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: His two interceptions are both flukey. If you really break

655
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: him down on film, they're very, very flukey. He held

656
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: onto the ball one and tried to make a play.

657
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: The second one got tipped. But basically he gives you

658
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: more offense this It was more exciting with him in

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Speaker 1: there in both games that it has been the rest

660
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Speaker 1: of the year. And so I'm confident that he can

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Speaker 1: be a backup quarterback in the NFL. I am confident.

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Speaker 1: I would be willing to go on ahead and make

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Speaker 1: that statement, and he's going to be a low price backup.

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Speaker 1: Now you have to move up, and I think again,

665
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Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this at the game. I

666
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Speaker 1: think the best thing that happened to us is Chicago

667
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Speaker 1: getting the number one pick, because that means they're open

668
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Speaker 1: for business. They've got you know, they've got the quarterbacks,

669
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: so they don't have to get the quarterbacks. So they're

670
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: going to be open for business. And in my opinion,

671
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I haven't studied them totally yet. The guys that has

672
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: flashed more to me, he's not real big as Price young.

673
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of hurts. I'd like

674
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: the pedigree where he comes from. I like the class

675
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: kid he is, and he can do it all. He's

676
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: that you know, dual purpose guy that if you look

677
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: at all all the AFC playoff team, they all got

678
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: that young guy that can do it all. You know,

679
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: every single one of them have that. And so you know,

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00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Jim. And I know one thing

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Speaker 1: about Jim. If Jim, if you tell Jim, I've got

682
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: to get to that number one tick. I was here

683
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: when he did it with Jeff George, he will get

684
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Speaker 1: you that number one pick. And that's what my goal

685
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: would be. To get that number one tick and get

686
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Speaker 1: that quarterback who if whoever that guy is that you

687
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Speaker 1: think is that franchise guy and you go with him,

688
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: and then I think you you basically explained to the

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Speaker 1: fans that we're gonna be patient, much like the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not throw it in the towel. You

691
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: know the Steelers didn't throw the towel ended up Mike Tomlins. Yeah. Yeah,

692
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: sixteenth season without a losing team and pick it I

693
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: think was like seven and two at the end. And

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Speaker 1: you know, and basically I think we have that kind

695
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Speaker 1: of team. I don't think this team is nearly as

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Speaker 1: bad as the last seven games. I think it was

697
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: I mismanaged. I just think this team is better than that.

698
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Do I think it's a super Bowl team? Absolutely not.

699
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: But I think that if you've got a young kid

700
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Speaker 1: and you play with them and the fans understand, you're

701
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit patient, like you know, I mean,

702
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Tomlin just held his ground and you know, and now

703
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you wait, you wait till the

704
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: beginning of next season, they're going to be favored. And

705
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Speaker 1: I think you got to explain to the fans there's

706
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: got to be some patience. You know, we don't, don't

707
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: promise anything, just gonna be patience. But I think at

708
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Speaker 1: this stage, after the fans have watched this last seven

709
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: weeks and really the last nineteen games, they would be

710
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: happy with a bold move. Coach. Let me ask you

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00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: this because I haven't been in those rooms as much

712
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: as you coaching front office, But because the fact that

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00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Eberflus came from Indianapolis and that Chicago's in the NFC

714
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: the Colts AFC maybe make them a more likely trade

715
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: partner for the Colts than another franchise out there. You know,

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00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: it will all come down to the actual value. The

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00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: one thing with Eberfluss, he will have a better feel

718
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: for every single person. If you want to get an

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00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: active player, Let's say, okay, I want a one and

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Speaker 1: I want Quentin Nelson. I mean, he's gonna know every

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: single guy on this team, so he's gonna know what

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Speaker 1: that trade value is. So I think in that sense

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Speaker 1: there's probably a little advantage. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, you know, it'll come to you know, it'll

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00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: come down to what you know, how much somebody wants

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Speaker 1: to give for that pick, No doubt about it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Colts match Day season high with three takeaways on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. It's time for the mailbag. This is

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Speaker 1: so far. Nick is up first tonight, Rick asking who

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Speaker 1: are the players that you think we can really build

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00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: around for next season? How much of our roster, Rick,

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00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: is salvageable? Yeah, well, I think a lot of our

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00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: roster as salvageable. As I said earlier in the program,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think this team as as devastatingly

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00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: bad as it looks right now. I think it's a

762
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: combination of mismanagement. I think we lost our will to

763
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: some degree. I don't think we ever quit, but I

764
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: think we lost our will and our confidence, and we

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00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: need somebody to come in and bring that back. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think there are pieces here. First two pieces. Let

767
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: me talk defense, and I'm going to talk more about

768
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: guys that really had good years this year's There are

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Speaker 1: some other guys that you can play with. It are

770
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: either injured or not there, but guys that are coming

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00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: and fresh in my mind right now. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you know, Grover I think is established himself, is as

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00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: good a nose tackle as you're gonna fine. I don't

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00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: think there's any doubt about it. And then his running mate,

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00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: who I said so much about yesterday, Buckner, I can't

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00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: say enough about Buckner. Here we are in a game

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00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: that is quote meaningless to a lot of people, and

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Buckner played his guts out. I mean that guy, he

779
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: goes to the ball, he does what you want him

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00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: to do. I want to build around him. I think

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00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: Franklin same thing. I mean, he broke that tackle record yesterday,

782
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: and you know that's a real breaking. I'm always skeptical

783
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: Joe with tackles because sometimes they're great at a little

784
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: bit different and a lot of tackles by linebackers are downfield.

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: But Franklin is a man. I mean, he's a tough guy,

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Speaker 1: throwback in the line of scrimmage. Guy. He can play

787
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Speaker 1: with range, he can play the past. He's a brilliant kid.

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00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: You know how smart and charismatic he is. I want

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Speaker 1: to build around him. Now, the guy that has really

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Speaker 1: I think flat ash here in the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season. I try to mention that in the broadcast

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Speaker 1: yesterday is Dao. I think that Dao has shown more

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00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: playmaker ability than Pay now not to not pay. Don't

794
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I think Pay has his role. But

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Speaker 1: I see Dale as a guy you know that has

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Speaker 1: that autry type ability, and we saw it yesterday, inside play,

797
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: outside play. I mean he can run and make plays,

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Speaker 1: and then I don't know how much longer he can go.

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Speaker 1: I know he's got another year on the contract. But Gilmore,

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Speaker 1: Gilmore is a stone Pro Bowl player. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that I can legitimately put on almost

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Speaker 1: any top receiver in the league and feel like we

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Speaker 1: can hold our own. And so, you know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like those five guys to me really stand out

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Speaker 1: this year. And then on offense, unfortunately we lost in

806
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Speaker 1: but Taylor is a great football player. I mean we

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Speaker 1: forget him, but you know he is. He can be

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Speaker 1: the focal point of the offense, not just a focal

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Speaker 1: points driver, but he can be a home run hitter.

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Speaker 1: And on another level, I really like the way Mills played.

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Speaker 1: You know, if he would be at great backup if

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Speaker 1: that's what his role is. And then I think three

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Speaker 1: guys are you know, are our future and I would

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Speaker 1: use them differently. I would use Pittman differently. I think

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Speaker 1: Pittman is a guy you can win with if you

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00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: use him on the inside of the field, like a

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Speaker 1: slot or like a tight end where speed is not

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00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: a factor, where you're not trying to run by anybody.

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Speaker 1: You're using your physicality and your toughness inside. And then

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Speaker 1: I think the two young kids you got to build around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Pierce is a big deep

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Speaker 1: ball threat. You know, we couldn't figure it out. I

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Speaker 1: know we say we don't have enough coaches. I think

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Speaker 1: we have twenty coaches. And I don't think it would

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Speaker 1: take a genius. I think miss Sherry can figure out

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Speaker 1: to take about four shots a game to him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the guy runs a sub four four. You know,

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Speaker 1: he has a fourteen point five average. So we have

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Speaker 1: a deep threat in Pierce. And then the guy that

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Speaker 1: I think is money is Woods. I think Woods he's

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Speaker 1: going to become one of the hybrid players in the league,

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Speaker 1: one of the matchup issues that is going to be

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: very difficult downfield inside and Joe mentioned this, and if

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Speaker 1: you watch him closely, he's exactly right. He's a willing

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Speaker 1: blocker that's going to become a really good blocker. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna cover you up someday. And he pulled the other

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Speaker 1: day on a counter row. I just love that guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that guy's big time, so you know,

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Speaker 1: and isn't it. They're not the only guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's there's pieces to be built. You bring a really

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00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: top coaching staff in here, in a top quarterback, I

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00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: think you could see a big difference, like you did

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00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: Giants and like you did with the Jaguars. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's sneak in one more question here on the first

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Speaker 1: mail back segment. Let's go to Rod Joe. He's asking

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Speaker 1: how far behind are we in the AFC South. Do

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Speaker 1: needed to even worry about that? Yeah? Good, good question, Rod.

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Speaker 1: I think you tailor it to just really try to

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Speaker 1: compete in the AFC, and to do that you have

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Speaker 1: to win the South. And the reality is the other

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Speaker 1: three teams in the South have all won this division

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Speaker 1: now twice since the last time the Cols did, which

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Speaker 1: is just you know, yeah, yeah, for sure. But when

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Speaker 1: you think about it, what do all those teams have

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Speaker 1: in common? They have young talent, but they have a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. All those quarterbacks for the seven playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: they're all twenty five or younger. They all were drafted

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Speaker 1: in the first round, and they all can move. And

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Speaker 1: when I think about the NFL and I think about

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Speaker 1: what the Colts need and what they haven't had, it's

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Speaker 1: that guy like a Herbert or like a Toa, or

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Speaker 1: even Kenny Pickett who's not in the playoffs. You can

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Speaker 1: go Daniel Jones. We saw him in New York a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But somebody that can run. They

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Speaker 1: not necessarily a running quarterback. I don't think that's, you know,

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Speaker 1: in your long term best interests, like a fields, but

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Speaker 1: somebody that can move and make plays, get in and

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Speaker 1: out of the pocket. And that's where, like Coach said,

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Speaker 1: head coach and quarterback. You got to get those two

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Speaker 1: things figured out. And if there's one of these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that you like in the draft, you do everything you

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Speaker 1: can to move up and get that franchise guy, because

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Speaker 1: we see it seven teams in the FC, and to

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Speaker 1: win it and compete with it, you got to have

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Speaker 1: a guy back there behind center in that same zip code. Yeah. Hey.

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Speaker 1: To do that, Let's go to Kade's question to wrap

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Speaker 1: up here, Rick, do you think Gus Bradley should come

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Speaker 1: back and be retained by the next head coach, whoever

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Speaker 1: that might be. I would say retained, but I would

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Speaker 1: say basically qualified. Okay, there would I if I were

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Speaker 1: the new head coach. There's a lot of things about

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Speaker 1: Gus I like personally. I mean, he's got a system,

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Speaker 1: he's got great juice. I certainly like him personal and

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Speaker 1: there's things that you can point to. We're fifteenth total,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically on third down we were tenth and

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Speaker 1: sacks tenth, So you know, there's some good things. But

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Speaker 1: to me, some things that just are overwhelmingly have to stop.

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Speaker 1: Red zone thirty two, fourth quarter thirty one. That's awful.

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Speaker 1: You know, take take away a top guy. Cooks goes

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Speaker 1: right down and scores on us in the first series,

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Speaker 1: and then the passer rating against US is number thirty

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Speaker 1: and those four things have to stop. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if Gus were retained, I would demand this much much

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Speaker 1: less vanilla defense. Okay, we're playing way too much single

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Speaker 1: high and way too much vanilla over. You know, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be more creative. We've got to be more aggressive much.

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Speaker 1: I think you told me once we were fifty fifteen

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Speaker 1: percent blitz. We got to be much higher than that.

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Speaker 1: You can't be down that low. And then the thing

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Speaker 1: that disappoints me some is just game specifics, because I

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Speaker 1: grew up that way, is if you got a top guy,

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Speaker 1: you can't let that guy beats you if somebody else

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Speaker 1: beats you, but have more specific game plans to take

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Speaker 1: care of those guys. But the two biggest issues is

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Speaker 1: that red zone number thirty two, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter defense, which really just killed his team.

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Speaker 1: As bad as the offensive woes were, that fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: defense right down to the last drive, is what's cost

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Speaker 1: us game after game after game. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 1: to Coach's point, you're gonna be it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: new head coach that you want to be able to

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Speaker 1: dictate that. But I do think Gus brought an excitement.

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Speaker 1: He brought a more attacking play style. I think the

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Speaker 1: D line developed some of those young guys we talked

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Speaker 1: about in Nate Alie I know was big in that

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Speaker 1: so certainly was more impressed with the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the football than offense. Obviously. The other thing we haven't

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Speaker 1: talked we had of special teams. If there's a way

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Speaker 1: with the new head coach to keep Bubba Ventrone. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's a definite feather in your cap because I think

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Speaker 1: he is, if not the best, certainly in that top

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Speaker 1: two or three special teams coaches in the NFL. He's young,

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Speaker 1: he's still I think can get even better, and to me,

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Speaker 1: we got to try to retain him if we can,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Well said right there, that's all

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Speaker 1: the time we have. Tonight, fell As, we're up against it.

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Speaker 1: Rick Venturry, Joe Wrights, I'm Matt Taylor, fell As. Great

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Speaker 1: job as always discussing this Colts team on a week

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Speaker 1: to week basis, not only tonight but all season long.

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Speaker 1: I love the discussion on this show. I love where

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Speaker 1: you guys come from. So thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: guys do. You guys are awesome. Thanks, thank you, Thanks

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Speaker 1: to all the listeners. We don't have a show without you, guys.

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Speaker 1: So Matt, you and Rick are the best and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and enjoyed working with you all year. All right, my

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Speaker 1: thanks as well to Paris Campbell who joined the show

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Speaker 1: back in segment number one. And don't forget about us

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