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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: In the Last Hours, a so called black Swan ballerina

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Speaker 2: Ashley Bennifil has a date in court with Lady Justice

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Speaker 2: after she's charged with murdering her husband. I'm Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: That's right. In the Last Days, Ashley Banifil, dubbed the

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Speaker 2: Black Swan, showed no emotion a cold reaction in court

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Speaker 2: as she is sentenced for murdering her husband. The former

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Speaker 2: ballerina sentenced to twenty years behind bars after she's found

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Speaker 2: guilty of.

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Speaker 1: Fatally shooting the husband.

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Speaker 2: Benifield, convicted of manslaughter, has thirty days to appeal her

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Speaker 2: sentence after a drefinds she killed Doug Banifield in her

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Speaker 2: Florida home in septemb She claimed the act was self defense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what exactly happened?

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Speaker 3: Faney County nine on one?

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Speaker 4: What is the address of your emergency? All right? My

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Speaker 4: address is White Rock Terrorst. Okay, can you dress for

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Speaker 4: me to make sure I have it? Correcly, the house

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Speaker 4: next to honey? What's your address? Okay? As luis right next.

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Speaker 2: Door to me.

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Speaker 4: She just came over her strength husband attacked her, and

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Speaker 4: she says she shot him. Now we's not gone over

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Speaker 4: there yet. A doctor, okay, what is his name?

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Speaker 5: Heard?

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Speaker 4: His name is Doug fed Afield.

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Having worked at the Battered Women's Center for nearly ten

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Speaker 2: years while I was a prosecutor, I'm always suspicious when

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Speaker 2: I hear people say she claimed self defense?

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Speaker 1: Is there some issue? Let's listen to more of that

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Speaker 1: nine to one one call.

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Speaker 4: I had not gone over to her home. Okay, I

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Speaker 4: double that. I don't want you to go over there

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Speaker 4: and line. Just one moment, I'm gonna steck you over

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Speaker 4: the sheriff's dispatchoking. Okay, okay, one moment.

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Speaker 3: Calm down, Colm don What is your name, sir? My

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Speaker 3: name's John samp So.

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Speaker 4: I live next summer. But this guy's on recording line.

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Speaker 4: This is Gabby. How can I help you? Okay, Gabby,

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Speaker 4: it's Karen on the one one three, two seven. A

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Speaker 4: John singer on the phone. He's saying, the neighbor came over,

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Speaker 4: a female neighbor. It was a domestics.

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Speaker 1: She shot her husband, so where's the gun? Listen?

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Speaker 3: She came in.

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Speaker 4: She was quite hysterical. I didn't know who was then

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Speaker 4: when the door, said that he attacked her and she

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Speaker 4: shot him. Okay, I'm just getting that on the screen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, go ahead, ma'am.

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Speaker 4: Where's the gun? Is it with her? Or is it

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Speaker 4: just I have it right here? Ma'am is sitting on

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Speaker 4: the floor inside the door, and my door's locked in

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Speaker 4: case she isn't, we can't get off.

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Speaker 3: But I'm also on restauran Tia harm hosts, so everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, he's not coming after her. He's dead.

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Speaker 2: With me an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 2: what we are learning in the so called Black Swan

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Speaker 2: homicide trial claims that this young ballerina mom.

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Speaker 1: Is also a killer.

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Speaker 2: Straight out to Sophia Vottello, joining US investigative reporter WWSB,

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Speaker 2: joining us out of Sarasota in this jurisdiction. Sophia, thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Start at the beginning, what happened.

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Speaker 6: Very beginning of it all.

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Speaker 5: I just want to start with the two met in

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen out of dinner, Okay, at a Republican dinner.

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Speaker 5: She was twenty four, he was fifty four, So that's

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Speaker 5: already a first red flag right there.

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Speaker 6: They fall in love and in just thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Days, Stott, Sophia Vittello, wwsb, you got me drinking from

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Speaker 2: the fire hydrant here, too much, too fast? Okay, held on, Well, okay,

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Speaker 2: first of all, you said the age difference is a

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Speaker 2: red flag.

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Speaker 1: Tell me the age difference again.

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Speaker 6: Twenty four Ashley fifty four, Doug.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, probably not a red flag for him, did

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Speaker 2: I hear correctly? In thirteen days they're married. I don't

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Speaker 6: Yes, no engagement.

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Speaker 5: I mean we don't even know if they were fully

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Speaker 5: and got married thirteen days after meeting.

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Speaker 6: Thirteen days.

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Speaker 1: he rich?

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Speaker 6: I do believe he's well off. Let's just say that.

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Speaker 5: And I do know that Ashley was struggling with a

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, She also start her own ballet company that's

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Speaker 2: not cheap, and then suddenly, poof presto, here comes money bags. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 2: when I start a murder case, if at all possible,

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Speaker 2: I like to play the nine one one call in

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Speaker 2: the opening statement. Brian Foley is with me board certified

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Speaker 2: critical defense attorney, former Chief Prosecutor Harris County, and author

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Speaker 2: of What Prosecutors Don't Tell You. I don't know about that,

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Speaker 2: but Brian Foley, in order to play a nine to

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Speaker 2: offer a profit and get it admitted into evidence before.

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Speaker 1: You play it for a jury. But do you agree

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Speaker 1: or disagree that only a nine one one call.

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Speaker 2: Can take you back to the moment of the incident,

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Speaker 2: unlike any witness can.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: When I was a prosecutor, we love playing nine one

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Speaker 8: a little bit at the beginning of that quirk that

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Speaker 8: happens in nine one calls where the operator is stopping

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Speaker 8: the drama and asking, well, what's the address? And that

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Speaker 8: always that always ruffled my feathers because you can get

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Speaker 8: the neighbor saying they're that and consoling her. It really

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Speaker 8: it helps paint an audio picture for the jury. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so hey right there. Following up what Brian Foley

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Speaker 2: and guys hees a veteran trial lawyer out of Houston,

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Speaker 2: Sophia Vittello, was there any acting in her background?

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Speaker 5: You know, we can't prove that, but what I can

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Speaker 5: say is that watching the trial and she put on

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Speaker 6: She testified for four hours on.

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Speaker 5: Friday with the same facial expression, hysterically crying for four hours.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know if there's acting in

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Speaker 6: She's seemingly she had this practice. I mean, she had

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold, but I'm making notes as fast as I

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Speaker 1: Look presented to jury.

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Speaker 2: Did this so called black Swan ballerina murder her wealthy

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's listen to more than I will one call.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of concerned with her mother and the little

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Speaker 3: Don't go out there, Honda. Come on, I know, I know,

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Speaker 3: I know, come on, I know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I just want you guys to stand

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Speaker 3: I'm just with her.

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Speaker 2: You hear the neighbor who is consoling. We're calling her

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Speaker 2: the ballerina. Her name is Ashley Bennifield. She was twenty

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Speaker 2: eight at the time of the shooting. At the time,

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Speaker 2: her husband, then husband, Doug Benefield, was shot dead. Straight

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Speaker 2: back out to Sophia Vittello investigator reporter WWSB, tell me

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Speaker 2: about the location of the shooting, the specific location.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so this is right after you got to remember

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Speaker 5: Ashley had left South Carolina, that was where they lived together.

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Speaker 5: nice area, I gotta say, nice house in a clean,

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Speaker 6: Okay. So she was in her mother's home. Doug was

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Speaker 6: there to help her move. That raises another question. If

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Speaker 5: Violence, why did you invite the man who you say

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Speaker 5: abused you to help you move. So that's another situation

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Speaker 5: we have going on at her mother's house.

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Speaker 6: That is the situation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand something joining me is doctor Chloe Carmichael,

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Speaker 2: clinical psychologist and author of Nervous Energy Harness The Power

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Speaker 2: of Your Anxiety. I'm trying to do that right now,

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Speaker 2: doctor Chloe Carmichael, because after ten years, nearly eleven years

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Speaker 2: I never once heard of one of those ladies once

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Speaker 2: they had finally made it out, which is a huge

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Speaker 2: hurdle in itself, getting out of the home, successfully leaving

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Speaker 9: Yes, as a clinical psychologist, Nancy, I actually have seen

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Speaker 9: that before, so that back and forth can certainly happen. Also,

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Speaker 9: and I can tell you indeed they do have acting training.

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Speaker 9: They're quite skilled that portraying, you know, the dramatic arts.

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Speaker 9: I do also have a couple of questions for Sophia.

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Speaker 9: I'm curious with this very quick marriage and of course

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Speaker 9: having a child, as we're exploring, what is the financial background, Nancy,

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Speaker 9: you had asked about if this if this gentleman was wealthy.

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Speaker 9: I'm curious as well about if they had a pre

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Speaker 9: nuptial agreement and if we know anything about the life

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Speaker 9: insurance or if there could have possibly been any financial

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what very interesting that you said that,

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Speaker 2: doctor Chloe. My next question for our investigative reporter Sevia Fatel.

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Speaker 2: It's life insurance. That's what's scrolled right there. Nice insurance.

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Speaker 2: What do we know about that Sophia hotel? Have we

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Speaker 2: heard anything about that in the courtroom?

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Speaker 5: That is something that I have been looking into and

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Speaker 5: no one has been mentioning it. I've been finding that

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Speaker 5: tight lipped here. Even with you could think of the

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Speaker 5: restraining order that was out in South Carolina. We can't

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Speaker 5: know anything about that either, you know. So there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of things that are secret. What I do know

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Speaker 5: is that Doug was very much in love with Ashley.

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Speaker 5: So what I can tell you is that leading up

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Speaker 6: With her and make the marriage work. So if there

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Speaker 6: was any life insurance, her name was on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This and plus you've got the child. He has a

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Speaker 1: child with her of whirlwind romance. These two actually.

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Speaker 2: Marry thirteen days after meeting at some political fundraiser.

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Speaker 1: They're married, the date is done.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he has a vasectomy reversed

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Speaker 2: ouch so he and she can have a baby, and

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Speaker 10: Do you believe that your father was abusive toward his wife?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely not. He was the furthest thing from abusive in innue.

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Speaker 11: Do you think she intended to shoot and kill him?

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Speaker 9: Yes, I believe that it was actually intentional and it

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Welcome back in the last days.

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Speaker 2: The so called Black Swan ballerina Ashley Benefield's cold reaction

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Speaker 2: In court, Doug Benefield, her husband daughter, spoke saying quote,

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Speaker 2: shot my father, I've only had one question to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Why Why did you end my dad's life? Knowing he

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Speaker 2: the trial, the Black Swan ballerina Ashley of Benefeld took

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Speaker 1: Turned out to be a daughter. What the jury learn?

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Speaker 1: What happened? Joining me right now?

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, renowned death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor

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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, this issue comes up.

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Speaker 2: Over and over and over, self defense or murder.

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Speaker 1: What have you learned by studying the case.

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Speaker 10: It's fascinating to me, Nancy, that they're talking about self

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Speaker 7: If this had happened, we've got gunshot.

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Speaker 2: When I'm looking at the autopsy right now, And can

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Speaker 2: I tell you, Joe Scott, as if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, and I know, you know Brian Foley.

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Speaker 2: John's Creek. You guys know how critical the autopsy is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: To prove or what you're not going to try to

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Speaker 2: We've got a gunshot wound to the chest and gunshot

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? Blunt impact of head?

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Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, blunt impact of

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 10: Well, what that means is that his lung has obviously

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Speaker 10: if there is an attempt to you know, depressurize that

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Speaker 1: Let me just break it down.

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Speaker 2: I know it's hard for you not to talk like

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Speaker 2: You kept me to that moment, but then I think

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Speaker 1: Tube to try to save him. Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Which totally ruins your trajectory investigation.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it can it can. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we also got perforation of right, fifth and left

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Speaker 1: Stop place, ears, hurting, ears bleeding.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm just asking you, T ten vertebra there's a

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Speaker 10: It all depends on how compromised that vertebral body is. Now,

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Speaker 2: Small isolated blast laceration of A order, the A order.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get my head around the fact

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if he couldn't even move that projectile bullet

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Speaker 6: Shot three times three times.

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Speaker 2: That's the cod cause of death. Three separate gunshot wounds.

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Speaker 2: At trial, the so called Black Swan Ballerina insisted her

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Speaker 2: I just pulled the trigger. Wow, thats a lot like

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Speaker 2: The prosecutors say the shooting happened after she the ballerina,

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Speaker 1: Prosecutors also pointed out.

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Speaker 1: What more happened that night?

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Speaker 2: So Joskott Morgan, Professor FORENSAC Jacksonville State University death investigator

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Speaker 2: were three gunshot wounds. Okay, I think the word overkill

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Speaker 2: As a couple listened.

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Speaker 12: Still grieving the sudden loss of his wife, and Doug

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Speaker 13: Ashley tells Doug she wants to have a ballet company

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Speaker 13: in thirteen days after they meet. Doug Benefield Mary's Ashley

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Speaker 13: buyers it is a shocking turn of events for a

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand something, Sophia Vittello.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, when you said model, you didn't tell me

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Speaker 6: I mean, she's a gorgeous girl. She's a gorgeous girl.

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Speaker 6: But what I do know is, you know, swimsuit model.

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Speaker 6: We got to use it lightly. Her career was not

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Speaker 5: In that video, it says sudden dealing with a sudden

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Speaker 6: Guys, it was less than a year. It was less

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Speaker 2: Yes, and isn't it correct to Tello that his daughter

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Speaker 1: Yes, so this guy is reeling mm hmm.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he's reeling it, and so's his daughter. And Eva

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Speaker 5: Talked to her dad and he said, oh, I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm not going to get into anything fast.

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Speaker 5: And next thing, you know, Eva says her dad was

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Speaker 2: Okay, very quickly after the wedding, things turned sour Lissen.

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Speaker 12: In the first days of their wedded bliss, Doug and

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Speaker 12: Ashley Benifield argue loudly. Doug's daughter Eva asks if one

442
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Speaker 12: of her friends can move in with them for a while.

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Speaker 12: And now Doug has two teen girls in the house

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Speaker 12: and a wife who not only wants to create a

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Speaker 12: ballet company that Doug says he will help finance, she

446
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Speaker 12: also wants a baby. Doug starts making calls about the

447
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Speaker 12: ballet and about having his best sectomy reversed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you have to do to have a

449
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Speaker 2: sec tomy? Reversehous got Morgan in a nutshell.

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Speaker 10: You have to go back in and actually reattach the

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Speaker 10: vast deference and so that they're functional at that point

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Speaker 10: in time.

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Speaker 1: The vast difference.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're saying, man, what go

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Speaker 2: back into what the penis? It's anatomical you can say penis. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you.

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Speaker 10: Know I'm not talking about penis, Nancy, I'm not talking

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Speaker 10: about penis. I wouldn't have to ask, Well, we'll talk

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Speaker 10: about testicles. How's that instead of penie, we're talking about attachment.

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Speaker 2: Scott, I don't care. I know that the peanut gallery

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Speaker 2: may yiggle. But you meet a man in thirteen days

462
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Speaker 2: you're married, and you convince him to have surgery on

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Speaker 2: his testicles.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's love. So he has surgery on his testicles.

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Speaker 1: He has the best sake.

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Speaker 2: To me, it's kind of a snip, snip in and

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Speaker 2: out correct.

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Speaker 10: The best sectomy is yes, But now you're talking about

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Speaker 10: a reattachment to make it functional once again. And you know,

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Speaker 10: all I have to say is, if that's the case,

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Speaker 10: she must have been quite beguiling and bewitching, because this

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Speaker 10: is a really quick decision to make.

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Speaker 2: So how difficult is it and what does the man

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Speaker 2: have to undergo to have a vasectomy reversal?

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Speaker 1: And again there's no giggling. This is real.

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Speaker 2: The guys did he shot three times, once in the back.

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Speaker 2: It's not holding together from me, but into the thinking,

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Speaker 2: the thinking of these two.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know how difficult.

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Speaker 2: It is and what a man must endure to have

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Speaker 2: a asectomy reversal.

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Speaker 7: It's not very difficult at all.

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Speaker 10: It's done all the time, literally, and it can be

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Speaker 10: done actually on an outpatient basis. Most guys would like

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Speaker 10: to remain in the hospital if they could. There is

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Speaker 10: pain associated with this, make no mistake about that, a

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Speaker 10: lot of post operatives, swelling and this sort of thing.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, it takes tom and it is a painful

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Speaker 10: process to go through. So obviously you felt like she

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Speaker 10: was worth it.

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Speaker 2: Joining me right now, private investigator, owner of Buyers Investigative Services,

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Speaker 2: But for my purposes, Former police Chief John's Creek twenty

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Speaker 2: five years in l E Law enforcement, Chris Byer's It'll

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Speaker 2: be a cold day, cold frigid, cold day in HG

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Speaker 2: double L that I do not support a battered woman's

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Speaker 2: right to defend herself against her abuser.

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Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, absolutely, But.

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Speaker 2: I cannot turn away from physical forensic evidence. Forensic evidence

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Speaker 2: unless it's been tampered with, does not lie.

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Speaker 1: Now what do you think?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely in any of these cases, that's what you do.

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Speaker 11: You follow the evidence. And from what I'm hearing on

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Speaker 11: this as well, the three shots shot in the back,

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Speaker 11: it does not present as someone who was about to

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Speaker 11: receive imminent death or great bodily harm, which is what

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Speaker 11: you need for this self defense. So yes, with what

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Speaker 11: I'm hearing about the forensics of this, Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 11: far stretch to show self.

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Speaker 2: Defense crime stories with Nancy Grace. Oh what a tangled

510
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Speaker 2: web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The

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Speaker 2: Black Swan Ballerina Ashley Benefield married her husband when she's

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Speaker 2: twenty four, after just knowing him two weeks. His wife

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Speaker 2: had passed away just nine months earlier, when he was

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Speaker 2: fifty four, thirty year age difference. Their marriage included a

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Speaker 2: very difficult attempt to start a ballet company.

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Speaker 1: What more do we know about their poem?

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Speaker 2: Let me say to multus relationship, Okay, we know that

518
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: very quickly after the meet up at a political fundraiser,

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Speaker 2: the two get married within thirteen days, and she announces

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Speaker 2: not only does she want her husband to fund a

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Speaker 2: ballet company, which is not a cheap endeavor, that things

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Speaker 2: go south. Not only does she want the ballet company,

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Speaker 2: she also wants her husband to reversif s sectomy so

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Speaker 2: she can have a baby, which he does. Everything's going sideways,

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Speaker 2: including money woes.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 12: Doug Benifield, trying to hold together the ballet company that

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Speaker 12: was his wife's dream, arrives to find that Ashley and

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Speaker 12: her mother drive from Florida to Charleston, pack up Ashley's

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Speaker 12: personal belongings and leave a note for Doug the marriage

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Speaker 12: is over, calling him possessive and controlling. In the note,

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Speaker 12: she says she is fearful for her life and the

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Speaker 12: safety of her unborn child.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so she moves in with the mom. Listen.

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Speaker 14: Ashley Bennifield moves in with her mother in Florida and

536
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Speaker 14: begins a process to prevent Doug Bennifield from being involved

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Speaker 14: in the life of his own child. Frustrated, Doug Minnifield

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Speaker 14: uses an attorney to reach out to Ashley Bennefield by email.

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Speaker 14: Ashley has not kept Doug informed of anything with regard

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Speaker 14: to her pregnancy, and one day after receiving the email

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Speaker 14: from Doug's lawyer, Ashley Bennifield has labor induced even though

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Speaker 14: she's weeks away from her due date. Ashley then refuses

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Speaker 14: to communicate with Doug. He isn't even aware his daughter

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Speaker 14: is born for six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, Okay, Sophia Vittela joining US investigative reporter WWSB.

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Speaker 2: So she kept the birth of the baby a secret

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Speaker 2: and did not tell the husband.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is really the state's entire argument here

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Speaker 5: that Ashley decided she wanted to be a single mother

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Speaker 5: the second she got pregnant. That's their whole argument against her,

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Speaker 5: saying that it was self defense because there have been

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Speaker 5: all of these instances where she got pregnant.

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Speaker 6: She immediately moved right.

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Speaker 5: And then she made sure that he didn't even know

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Speaker 5: that the baby was born until six weeks after. So

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Speaker 5: she wanted him to have nothing to do with the

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Speaker 5: child that they share.

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Speaker 2: Talking about psychological warfare, doctor Chloe Carmichael with US clinical

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Speaker 2: psychologist Way and doctor Chloe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, Nancy.

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Speaker 9: I've just been bursting over here, so thank you for

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Speaker 9: playing that tape of the daughter. I just think it's

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Speaker 9: really important. When we look at the daughter testifying as

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Speaker 9: to her opinion regarding her father, we have to remember

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Speaker 9: a couple of things. First of all, the daughter herself

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Speaker 9: may have a financial motive. So, especially when you have

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Speaker 9: an opposite sex child, so a daughter in this case

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Speaker 9: whose father has now married another woman, there can actually

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Speaker 9: be a lot of rivalry between the daughter and the stepmother, right,

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Speaker 9: and so we even saw some of that reflected in

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Speaker 9: the text messages. Additionally, there could even be a financial

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Speaker 9: motivation because if perhaps we don't know a lot about

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Speaker 9: the life insurance or the estate, but if that was

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Speaker 9: set to go to Ashley, unless Ashley's a murderer, then

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Speaker 9: perhaps it would go to Ava, the daughter. And we

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Speaker 9: could also see through the text messages that the daughter

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Speaker 9: was indeed a source of conflict and Nancy, of course,

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Speaker 9: I agree with you that we don't want you to

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Speaker 9: disbelieve a battered woman.

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Speaker 1: On the other.

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Speaker 9: Hand, I think it can cheapen cases of battered women

582
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Speaker 9: when we don't do our due diligence and understand that

583
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Speaker 9: sometimes and I'm not saying it's the case here, but

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Speaker 9: women can have ulterior motives for sometimes actually being untruthful

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Speaker 9: and we just don't know what happened here.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: I want you to hear what is so called black

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Speaker 2: swan by the way, she doesn't like that.

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Speaker 1: Moniker has to say. Listen, Douglas Benefield was a violent abuse.

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Speaker 14: I said stop, and he like turned and he got

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Speaker 14: into this lake.

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Speaker 6: It's like a fighting stance.

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Speaker 1: Don't you gonna kill me? He started coming towards me

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Speaker 1: and then he lunched at me. Her bully the trigger.

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Speaker 2: Okay, again from our friends at Inside Edition. But Joe

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Speaker 2: Scott Morgan, did you hear what she just said? This

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Speaker 2: is critical, Joe Scott. She said he lunged at her.

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Speaker 2: If he lunged at her, the bullet should be front

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Speaker 2: to back.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, what he lunged at her with his shoulder blade.

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Speaker 10: That doesn't make sense at all. The calculus doesn't work

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Speaker 10: out here. Lunging means that you're moving toward the individual. Uh.

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Speaker 10: The indication is what we're hearing, is that he was

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Speaker 10: shot post heially. Now we don't know the precise the

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Speaker 10: precise trajectories here, but it just does. It just doesn't mesh.

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Speaker 10: And I got to tell you, Nancy, from a forensic standpoint,

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Speaker 10: this is one of the major benchmarks as to why

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Speaker 10: the police move forward with this case.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean one of the benchmarks as to

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Speaker 2: why police move forward?

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Speaker 7: The science doesn't say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: The beauty of this is that the science doesn't lie.

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Speaker 10: She's actually saying that he lunged toward her, and all

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00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 10: indications are is that these gunshot wounds, that this man

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Speaker 10: has sustained our posterior on his backside or at least lateral,

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Speaker 10: that it doesn't marry up with this so called fighter

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Speaker 10: stance whatever whatever the hell that means that he goes into.

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Speaker 10: According to her, the science doesn't marry up here. And

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Speaker 10: that's one of the big we use the term red

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Speaker 10: flag of moment ago for an investigator. That's a big

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Speaker 10: red flag when you've got when the police have spoken

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Speaker 10: with the EME, which I guarantee they did that day,

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Speaker 10: and try to marry.

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Speaker 7: This up with a statement that she's giving. The two

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Speaker 7: things just don't mesh okay.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to Sophia Vittillo joining US

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Speaker 2: investigative reporter WWSB. Are we correct that at least one

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Speaker 2: of the shots was to front.

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Speaker 5: According to dozens of hours, honestly of testimony from this

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Speaker 5: past week everything that we have heard in court was not.

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Speaker 6: He was facing the other way, and the defense has

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Speaker 6: tried to disprove that.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying he was shot in the back?

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Speaker 5: Very simply according to medical examiner's testimony, Yes, he was

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Speaker 5: shot in the back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then what she's saying cannot be true. And you know,

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Speaker 2: let me understand, Brian fully joining me, renowned criminal defense

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Speaker 2: attorney and author, Brian, it is possible that he is

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Speaker 2: shot in the back and.

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Speaker 1: Was attacking her.

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Speaker 2: He could have attacked her and then turned to get

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Speaker 2: a weapon. He could have attacked her and tried to

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Speaker 2: push off a dog. There are many reasons he could

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Speaker 2: have turned his back and still be the aggressor. However,

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Speaker 2: her story is impossible based on the bullet path trajectory.

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Speaker 8: Yes, and when we listen to a defendant give a

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Speaker 8: statement about a very traumatic event, these things really happen

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Speaker 8: a lot faster than people think. You don't have time

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Speaker 8: to react in between shots. You know, some people say, well,

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Speaker 8: why did you have to shoot him two more times

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Speaker 8: if he'd already been shot. He's not, you know, the

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Speaker 8: other two bullets aren't self defense, even if.

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Speaker 7: The first one was.

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Speaker 8: But these all happened way too fast for that to

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Speaker 8: be the case. And one thing I wanted to add

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Speaker 8: is the prosecution doesn't have to prove that she lied

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Speaker 8: about how it happened. You know, if the forensic evidence

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Speaker 8: shows that her statement is an accurate, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 8: that she's not doing it in self defense. They have

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Speaker 8: to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there's no other

663
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Speaker 8: possibility that it was in self defense. And nunc you

664
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Speaker 8: hit the nail on the head. They said she had

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Speaker 8: to run back.

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Speaker 1: That's not true.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has to prove no possibility beyond any doubt whatsoever,

668
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: just to a mathematical certainty like two and two pluses

669
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: four two and two eqals four. Now, that's not the

670
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 2: legal standard. The legal standard is beyond a reasonable doubt.

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00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: She has raised the affirmative defense of self defense, which

672
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: means affirmative defense. I did it, but I'm excused because

673
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: self defense, because accident, because insanity, different reasons.

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00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: But the state only has to pierce that.

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00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: Beyond a reasonable doubt, not to a mathematical certainty.

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00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: And the fact that while an attacker can.

677
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Rarely be shot in the back and still be the aggressor,

678
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: never happens. It's possible her story does not coincide.

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: With the wounds. That's what I'm saying, Brian Foley.

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00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 8: Well, her story does coincide a little bit there in

681
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 8: the fact that he has an abrasion on his head.

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00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 8: That would tend to show that there was a struggle,

683
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 8: maybe even an attack on her, and so that could

684
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 8: have happened before he was killed. You know, we don't

685
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 8: have the exact photos or anything like that.

686
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: It is okay, you know what, let's follow through with that,

687
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: Brian Foley. Did she say, Cyphia Vtello, that there was

688
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: a physical struggle and then somehow she hit him in

689
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: the head.

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00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: No, she said that he was trying to strike her

691
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 5: for the first time and she fired.

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00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 6: So it is believed that he did not he did

693
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 6: not reach her.

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00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Josky Morgan, what were you saying.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, one of the things that's very troubling to me, Nancy,

696
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 10: are these head injuries that he has sustained, because they're

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00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 10: calling one of them a laceration. As you well know,

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00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 10: that's blunt force trauma. And one of the things that

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00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 10: we think about when someone holding a weapon, if weapons

700
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 10: like this can be used almost like a hammer, they're

701
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 10: very blunted. And that's where you I can't imagine her

702
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 10: as quote unquote athletic as she may have been, that

703
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 10: she's going to score a hit to his head that's

704
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 10: going to generate a laceration that's severe blunt force trauma.

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 10: I'm wondering if there are trace elements of his blood

706
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 10: on this weapon, and did they try to match this

707
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 10: up with the injury he sustained to his head, because

708
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 10: how's she going to get in close enough in order

709
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 10: to generate that kind of force with her bare hands.

710
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 10: I think there's a high probability that once he's down,

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00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 10: she may have struck him in the head.

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00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: In other words, simply put bare handed.

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 10: Maybe stomping on somebody, but not bare handed.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, got it. One thing that's very disturbing.

715
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of eminent stating that this is

716
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: not self defense, but Selvia Matello, isn't it true that

717
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: Evans is that he the victim, hit the dog and

718
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: the cat out of anger.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So those are some things we have to look at,

720
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: and that is where the defense is pushing their entire argument.

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Speaker 6: We have his abuse. We don't know how many times

722
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 6: or what the situation specifically was towards the Pats.

723
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Speaker 5: We have a fists in the wall, we have a

724
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 5: bullet mark in the ceiling of their house. Okay, so

725
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: we see here that maybe there was some moments of

726
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 5: anger and we don't know exactly what happened, but that's

727
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Speaker 5: where the defense is using.

728
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 6: Hey, Doug was violent. Look he hit the dog, he

729
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 6: punched the wall. Why couldn't it have been Ashley Sophia.

730
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Speaker 2: I think this text purportedly is from him. I pussed

731
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Speaker 2: the dog because you got me so mad, like you

732
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Speaker 2: wouldn't stop about Eva always, Eva, every argument.

733
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Speaker 1: Eva? Who is Eva Sophia.

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Speaker 5: Eva is Doug's daughter, And I'd like to add have

735
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 5: talked to her several times and she tells me that

736
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 5: they were constantly together, touching each other, lovey dovey, And

737
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: so maybe there was a bit of jealousy on Ashley's end,

738
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Speaker 5: because I did not pick it up from Eva's end

739
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Speaker 5: while I was interviewing her.

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Speaker 1: So there you have it.

741
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Speaker 2: The Black Swan Ballerina Ashley Benefield sinist to hard jail

742
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: time twenty years behind bars in the shooting death of

743
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: husband Doug.

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Speaker 1: Her cold reaction.

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00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: In court as she sentenced says it all. I'm not

746
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: sorry I did it. I'm just sorry I got caught.

747
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Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen the last of the Black

748
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Swan ballerina Ashley Bennefield.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,