1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: The latest from Lakerland, the latest as well with the 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Warriors and the Suns, and the latest on the NBA 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: trade front with de Jontay Murray, Pascal Siakam, Zach Lavine. 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: All that. Next, you're on the latest edition of This 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: League Uncut. 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: four hour NBA News. This's you love, Chris Haines. It's 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: time work Stein. It's so time. This League Uncut is 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: underway and on fire. This should be a good one. 10 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome in to the latest edition of This 11 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: League Uncut. Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes with an H. Yes, 12 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: he still spells his name with an H. There is 13 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: a story behind that, but we're not going to get 14 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: into it now because it is January eighth, and the 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: NBA trade deadline is on February eighth. That means we 16 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: are basically a month away from the NBA's trade buzzer, 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: so we will naturally get into some trade business today. 18 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I know you want to hear the latest on Dejontay Murray, 19 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: on Pascal Siakam, on Zach Levine, but we have to 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: start with the Lakers after their big Sunday night victory 21 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: over the rampaging La Clippers, their co tenants at Crypto 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: dot Com arena the curse of the Ist banner. I 23 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: can't be completely sure that the curse has been lifted. 24 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: I also don't really know if there's an actual curse. 25 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I tend to be pretty resistant to the idea of 26 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: sports curses. I don't really like to feed into that, 27 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: but we're gonna have some fun with it here because 28 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers undeniably were mired in a three and eleven 29 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: tailspin since winning the IST and so that is where 30 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: any notion of curse talk comes from. But shaky in 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: crunch time. They did manage, though, to hold off the Clippers. 32 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: No Kawhi Leonard on the floor at the end. Tylo 33 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: said afterward that Kawhi Leonard was inching towards a minute 34 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: restriction and that's why we didn't see him late late, 35 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: late and crunch time and the Lakers, you can be sure, 36 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: we're very glad not to see Kawhi Leonard late, because 37 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers had won fourteen consecutive games with Kawhi Leonard 38 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: in uniform before Sunday night, before Norman Powell went in 39 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: and out with what would have been a crazy running 40 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: three to force overtime. Chris haynes I turned to you, now, Lakerland, 41 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: has the storm passed? Do you think that one win 42 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: is enough to quiet all the noise that has been 43 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: mounting about the Lakers and specifically about Darvin Ham in 44 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the coaches seat. 45 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Well, pus the band aid over it, for sure. 46 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: You know, any loss, when you compound these losses up, 47 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: they tend to get bigger and bigger, more scrutiny. And definitely, 48 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: if it was going to be a loss against the 49 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: Clippers in town rival, that would have definitely multiplied it. 50 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: But no, it puts a band aid on it, for sure. 51 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: They did what they had to do to win. This 52 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: is a desperate team, the Los Angeles Lakers, and they're 53 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: trying to find some continuity, trying to get used to 54 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: different roles, and different roles have been put out there 55 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: because you know, it's just been injuries has been in 56 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: at the lineup. Gabe Vincent really hasn't played much at 57 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: all this season. They had to They had to do 58 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: something with D'Angelo. He wasn't playing well with that starting 59 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: unit this season, so they had to put them in 60 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: a reserve role. So they're still trying to figure things out. 61 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: Now. 62 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: As far as Darvin Ham's future, I still you know, 63 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: there was nothing there was There wasn't anything indicating to 64 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: me that his seat was hot. But I will say 65 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: with the Lakers, the schedule that they had coming up, 66 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: you could have seen a scenario on if the Lakers 67 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: kept losing because the schedule just didn't look too good 68 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: for them, that you could see see the scenario where 69 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: that seat actually did get hot and where Darvin Ham 70 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: really was in jeopardy. But I didn't think we had 71 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 4: reached a point to where it was inevitable that Ham 72 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: was going to be relieved of his duty. So he 73 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: lives to fight another day. And so the team, so 74 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: they're they're hoping that they can, uh you know, just 75 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: keep keep building off of that win. I'll see, I'll 76 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: see the Lakers this on Thursday. I have the Lakers 77 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: and Sons, T and T in l A this Thursday. 78 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm interested in getting the uh good that's 79 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: yeahs Lakers and Son, Yeah, that's that's interested getting the peak. 80 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: Frank Vogel, you know, he's he's dealing, you know, dealing 81 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: with some stuff over there with the Sons and you 82 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: know they're not looking right. So that's uh, that's that'd 83 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: be a pretty good game to cover. 84 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, And I'm with you on Darvin Ham. 85 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: I think the notion that he was under pressure was 86 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: overstated based on all of my reporting and everything I've heard, 87 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: and I was getting this message strongly before the win 88 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: over the Clippers that he has Darvin Ham maintains very 89 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: strong support from both Genie Buss, the Lakers owner, and 90 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Rob Polenka, the vice president of basketball operations, and he should. 91 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: You know, Darvin Ham last year in year one, that 92 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: team got off to a two and ten start. People 93 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: forget the Lakers didn't climb over five hundred. They were 94 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: still thirty four and thirty seven before they went on 95 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: a nine and two finishing kick. And look, I know 96 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Darvin Ham took some heat the other day for some 97 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: stuff he said. And my take on it is I 98 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: think it was word choices that he probably wishes he 99 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: had a do over on because you know the way 100 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: he made it sound frankly, and you can understand why 101 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: this upset so many people. You know, he when you 102 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: say something like you know, I don't want I don't 103 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: understand why people live and die with these results. I mean, 104 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: it's because fans love their team that much. And I 105 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: totally understand it because I feel that way about my 106 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: cal State Fullerton Titans and the Buffalo Sabers and Manchester City. 107 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: And I got my seventeen year old here who, when 108 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Sunday was unfolding, wasn't even sure that his Buffalo Bills 109 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: were going to be in the playoffs. And then by 110 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: night's end and the roller coaster ride is over, the 111 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Bills are AFC East champions. So it's like, that was 112 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: not a wise thing to say, But I think he 113 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: has since come back in subsequent comments. And you realize 114 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: that when you coach the Los Angeles Lakers, there is 115 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: that level of scrutiny and expectation that comes with the job, 116 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: and if you don't want that, you can't coach there. 117 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: And both coaches you're going to see on Thursday, Darvin 118 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Ham and Frank Vogel have lived with that level of expectation, 119 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: so they both know it super super well. And again 120 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I would say, you know what you're when you're the 121 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: head coach of a team, and to NBA you are 122 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: your team's spokesman. And on a game day, they speak 123 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: three times a day to the general media, and there 124 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: are more media sessions with national broadcasters like Chris Haynes 125 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and all his friends at Turner Sports and team broadcasters. 126 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: But when you're Darvin Ham on a game day, you're 127 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: getting in front of the mic at shoot around if 128 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: there is one, and then before and after the game. 129 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: So there are gonna be times when you say something 130 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that you probably wish you had a do over on. 131 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: So he's taken some heat for those comments, and I 132 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: totally understand it, but I do think in general he's 133 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: going to weather this storm get past it. And like 134 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: you said, I don't think Gabe Vincent's absence is not 135 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: a small thing. The Lakers were expecting significant contributions from 136 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Gabe Vincent and because of injury, he's barely been out there. 137 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: And another another criticism that Darvin Ham has faced has 138 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: been why have the Lakers so infrequently used last season's 139 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: top lineup when things were going well, when they made 140 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the surge late into the season and then propelled themselves 141 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: into they got all the way to the Western Conference Finals. 142 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: So why haven't we seen Lebron James and ad with 143 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and Jared Vanderbilt and g'angelo Russell. Why haven't 144 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Why are we not seeing that combination frequently? But here's 145 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: the thing the Lakers on this Monday as we're taping, 146 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: even after this really good win over the Clippers, the 147 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Lakers awoke Monday at number twelve in defensive efficiency. They 148 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: have to be elite defensively to overcome for the offensive shortcomings, 149 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the lack of shooting around Lebron and ad. The Lakers, 150 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: for the fourth time in Lebron's six seasons in LA 151 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: are a bottom ten offense. They've got to be great defensively. 152 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: And the reason people were raving about them at the 153 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: end season tournament was because they put the clamps on 154 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: an Indiana team, the best offense in the league. And 155 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: we saw the Lakers in the IST title game and 156 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: when they absolutely routed New Orleans and the Semis, and 157 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: you looked at the Lakers and said, this is what 158 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: these guys are still capable of when they play their 159 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: a game defensively. But to be twelfth on defense league wide, 160 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean they're not even. They should not be out 161 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: of the top five. With as good as Anthony Davis 162 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: is and they've had Anthony Davis and Lebron They've only 163 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: missed five games combined. These guys are healthy, they're in 164 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: the lineup. So I think what Darvin Ham has been 165 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: searching for lineups that will function better defensively and play 166 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: to the level that the Lakers we know are capable 167 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: of defensively. I think that's what he's searching for. He's 168 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: not finding it. And when you lose and you're a 169 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: head coach, you're going to take criticism, you're going to 170 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: take heat, and he's certainly getting it. But to me, 171 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: playing that lineup that did well last year, if you've 172 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 1: got Reeves and D'Angelo Russell out there, you're vulnerable defensively, 173 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: and he's trying to get away from that. 174 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, and then Vanderbilt still has it. 175 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: He's still trying to get his legs up under him, 176 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 4: you know, he's still trying to get his way back, 177 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: and Haim is, you know, trying to gradually increase his load. 178 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: But yeah, the problem is, like D'Angelo seems like he's regressed, 179 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: and I think that is probably one of the center 180 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: center reasons to why he can't go back to that lineup. 181 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: Torrian Prince has shown to be a good serviceable definitely. 182 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: Not a scrub them that end. 183 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: He's been hitting the three at a pretty good clip 184 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: this season, so he's a plus for them on the 185 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: offensive end. But I mean, I don't know right now. 186 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: For some reason, Austin reason DiAngelo can't play well together. 187 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: Because those are guys, Austin, di'angelo and Lebron, they all 188 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: need the ball in their hands. And so that's why 189 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 4: they started bringing Austin Reeves off the bench initially because 190 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: Austin wasn't getting his touches and so Austin started to 191 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: explode off the bench. But then DiAngelo was it playing 192 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: up the par and said, now we're starting to see 193 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 4: him kind of try to go back to, you know, 194 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: resemblances of that of that lineup, of that core group 195 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: that he had last year. But it's gonna take some time. 196 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: And to your point, gave Vincent, Yeah, you know, that's 197 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: a big he was a big signing. They had big 198 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: plans for him. He's a guy that can hit really 199 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: clutch basket clutch baskets, I should say, take tough shots 200 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: and catch and shoot player, and he just hasn't been 201 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: able to get on the court, so you don't know 202 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: when he when when he's going to be able to 203 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: come back or even come back to play at the 204 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: level that we see him play at in Miami. So 205 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 4: there's a lot. There's a lot going on aside from 206 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: questioning what Darvin Ham is doing. I think Darvin Ham, 207 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: just like in all other situations, when the team is underperforming, 208 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 4: you blame the head coach, and this is no exception. 209 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: And to to what you said about Darvin Ham and 210 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: his you know, the his comments about everybody taking losses 211 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: like it's the end of the world. Yeah, he and 212 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: you you brought it Backstinn to what the problem was. 213 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,239 Speaker 4: The problem was that he's the head coach of the Lakers. 214 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: Just like if you're the manager of the New York Yankees, 215 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 4: you're the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, you can't 216 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: say that you know marquee teams, teams with championship aspirations, 217 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 4: the Boston Celtish, you can't say that. You can say 218 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: that on other teams, but there's different expectations that come 219 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: with coaching and managing those type of teams. So yeah, 220 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: I think definitely poor word choice on his part. I 221 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: think he'll take that back. But yeah, Lakers, it's not 222 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: the end of the world. They still can you know, 223 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: I think they still can figure things out. But most 224 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: definitely I think they have to look outside and start 225 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: canvas in the market to see what they you know, 226 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: what can be done. The problem is that they just 227 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: don't have a lot to offer other teams to be 228 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: able to get back an impact player. But you know, 229 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: the Lakers, they'll definitely try for sure. 230 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it's just limited options. I mean, from 231 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the moment Zach Lavine hit the market in November, the 232 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: Lakers have been mentioned. And obviously you know that's going 233 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: to happen because zach Lavine is a Clutch Sports client 234 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: and so the Lakers just automatically get mentioned. That's where 235 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: he's going. But if you really look at the way 236 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: the Lakers have tried to build this team around Lebron 237 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis, they've gone for the shortest possible 238 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: deals they can ruey Hatchemura is only a three year deal, 239 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Gabe Vincent is only a three year deal when they 240 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: could have been four year deals. They're trying to keep 241 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: these deals as short as possible. DeAngelo Russell is another 242 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: one where obviously you see it's a two year deal, 243 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: and from the moment that was signed, that was looked 244 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: at by people throughout the league as you know, that's 245 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: a potential trade ship rather than a loud, strong commitment 246 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: to D'Angelo Russell as a part of the future. But 247 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: the assets are limited. The Lakers don't have a ton 248 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: of draft capital to attach to sweeten any trade offers. 249 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: And so to me, zach Lavine certainly would address some 250 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: needs as a source of offense and a shot creator 251 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: on the wing. But are the Lakers really in position 252 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: to take on a player who's only in year two 253 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: of a five year, two hundred and fifteen million dollar 254 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: contract to be the third option? I mean, that's a 255 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: very pricey way to go, and the Lakers would have 256 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: to sacrifice a ton of depth to do that. And 257 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: then now they're looking at some of the same problems 258 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: they had before they traded Russell Westbrook. Last season, they 259 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: traded Russell Westbrook, brought in two three four new players 260 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: and having the depth served them much better. So are 261 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: the Lakers really going to make a bid for zach Lavine? 262 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: To this point, they've resisted it. Atlanta's Desonte Murray is 263 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: another name that has been mentioned in connection with the Lakers. 264 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I think you said that as well on your Bleacher 265 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Report live stream on Friday. And look, dejontey Murray's contract 266 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: is very reasonable for a player who has already achieved 267 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: All Star status. I mean, his contract should be movable. 268 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: But Atlanta is obviously going to be looking for a 269 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: very strong return given all the draft capital that the 270 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Hawks surrendered to get to Jontay Murray. So the Lakers 271 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: are not the trade partner who's going to furnish you 272 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: with that kind of draft capital. So are the Lakers 273 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: really an option for de Jonte Murray. I guess we'll see, 274 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: but it might have to be smaller moves around the edges. 275 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: And I do think that getting Gabe Vincent back on 276 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: the floor in the rotation, I think he can be 277 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: a difference maker for them. He was so good in Miami, 278 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Lakers have visions of the same 279 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: when he's playing regularly for them. 280 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: Stet, I just want to just say how much I'm 281 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: ecstatic about doing this pod, this episode right here, because 282 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: remember we said I said it a couple of weeks ago. 283 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 4: I said my new year's resolution. I wanted producer Ryan 284 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: to put take his video off mute when he's doing 285 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: our podcast, at least just one time, because people don't 286 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: know behind the scenes, producer Ryan a great producer, extraordinary here. 287 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: Every time he produces our pod, he puts his video 288 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: on mute, and we have a lot of a lot 289 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: of times we'll tell Ryan to cut that out. We're 290 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: gonna do it over again. And I've always wondered what 291 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: Ryan's face looks like when we're having to stop him man, 292 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: because it requires him to pay attention to every word. 293 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: It ain't like he could put the put on mute 294 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: and then leave and go make some dinner or something like. 295 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 4: He actually has to be here and so now. 296 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Can't order He can't order a pizza and get it 297 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: delivered while we're on the air. 298 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. 299 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: I think certain people on the show have done in 300 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: the past. 301 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: We can. 302 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: I mean I have the luxury of doing so. I mean, 303 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: if he orders a pizza, we probably will stop our 304 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: pod probably two times, you know, during the time he's 305 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 4: ordered a pizza. And so I've had great pleasure of 306 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: looking at Ryan's face because we've already stopped the pod 307 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: about four times already, and I'm just seeing how he 308 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: handles this, seeing if he gets frustrated, seeing if he 309 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: turns red. You know, I'm looking at everything styles, So 310 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: it's it's been a pleasure. I'm getting a joy even 311 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 4: though everybody else can't see. I'm getting the joy. 312 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: Of I haven't been so how have his what of 313 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: the reasons he's been okay? 314 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: No, No, he's been poised like you've stopped him three times, 315 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 4: three three times already. I haven't gotten him yet, but 316 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him. I'm gonna get him at some 317 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: point during this episode when he least expects it, because 318 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: I want to catch him off guard. 319 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: But no, he's been good. Start, he's he's handling like 320 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: a champ. 321 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm a static that your next TV assignment is Lakers 322 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: and Sons because there were three teams today. I was 323 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: sure we were going to discuss the Lakers, the Sons, 324 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: and the Warriors, and you're gonna see two of them, 325 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: so I know hopefully when we get together on front, 326 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna find a way to do a 327 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: pod Friday. After you cover that game. You will have 328 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: a very very good in person handle on both the 329 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Lakers and the Suns, and the Suns man Sunday night, 330 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: Phoenix had its big three all together, and we constantly 331 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: talked on this pod about how they never have their 332 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: big three together and what happens. Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, 333 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: Bradley Beal all in uniform and Phoenix loses at home 334 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: to the John morantless Memphis Grizzlies. So the Suns are 335 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: I mean, they're right back in the pressure cooker with 336 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: that loss, because you know, we've been waiting for ages 337 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: to see I don't know that I think Durant, Booker, 338 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: and Beale have played maybe five games together. I mean, 339 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: it's already twenty twenty four and we've barely seen this trio. 340 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: And so now they, you know, have a new crisis 341 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: to contend with. And the Warriors, to me the biggest 342 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: question marks because they just got absolutely smacked at home 343 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Sunday night by Toronto. Draymond Green has been reinstated from suspension. 344 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: We don't know exactly when Draymond Green will make his debut, 345 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: but he's back with the team this week, so he's 346 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: got to be days away from a return. But they've 347 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: just lost Chris Paul for four to six weeks to 348 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: a fractured hand, And I the question I probably get 349 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: from readers and listeners more than any right now, even 350 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: more than Laker questions, is what are the Warriors gonna do? 351 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: Trade wise? What move are they gonna make before the deadline? 352 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: And to me, on one hand, they're not. They're more 353 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: than one trade away from fixing this situation. So it's like, 354 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that just a trade. I don't think 355 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: that one trade is some sort of cure all. But 356 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: the other thing is there's been some really edgy headlines 357 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: coming out of the Bay Area, with Jonathan kuminga up 358 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: set with his playing time and Moses Moody not happy 359 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: with his role, and like, you are not used to 360 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: seeing those kind of headlines associated with the Warriors, So 361 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: they definitely have some decisions to make. You know, is 362 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: Chris Paul tradable given the fact that he's basically playing 363 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: on an expiring contract but is now going to be 364 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: injured beyond the February eighth trade deadline. When I talk 365 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: to other teams more and more, I'm hearing that there's 366 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: an anticipation now that the Warriors will be open to 367 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: trading Andrew Wiggins, because Wiggins and Kuminga have when they've 368 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: played together. The Warriors would be the first to tell 369 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: you it hasn't gone well. Wiggins. On one hand, you say, Okay, 370 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: this guy has a pretty trade friendly contract. He's in 371 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: year one of a deal that's only about one hundred 372 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: and ten million, like de jon Tey Murray. That's a 373 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: very tradable contract in today's NBA for a very good player. 374 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: But this is also the season. You know, Wiggins had 375 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: a down season last season, and this season he's lost 376 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: his place in the starting lineup. So what kind of 377 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: market do the Warriors even have for Wiggins at this point? 378 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of curiosity, a lot of questions about 379 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: the Warriors. And I mean you are obviously you spend 380 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot of time around that team. You still live 381 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Bay Area adjacent. I mean, do you do you agree 382 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: with the assessment that the Warriors are they're in an 383 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: even worse spot than the Lakers or the Suns right now? 384 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: Yes, because at least with. 385 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: At least with uh, yeah, I beat you, producer Rye, 386 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 4: I beat you a little inside joke going on with him. 387 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: But do you guys want your own pods to you, 388 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: like I kind of feel like I'm getting in the 389 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: way here today. Inside jokes private texts like you know, 390 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: I can leave, if I can leave, if I'm bothering 391 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: you guys. 392 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what's going on. STI. 393 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 4: Uh, we have somebody with inside that's trying to sabotage 394 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: this show. 395 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: And his name is Ryan. 396 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 4: I'm called them by day. Ryan is trying to sabotage 397 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 4: this show. 398 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: He's trying to sabotage the program. 399 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: You know, we we've heard that. Sounds like we heard 400 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: that last couple of days. But yeah, like Ryan's try He's. 401 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: The one who's He's the one who's leaking all this 402 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: bad information about us. He's gonna turn his camera off 403 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: if you continue with these scurless accusations. 404 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: Oh but no, What I was saying, Stid, is that 405 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: with the Lakers and the Suns, I still feel like 406 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 4: they have room to grow. Definitely with the Phoenix Suns, 407 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: this is a team that hasn't played together much that 408 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of new pieces, not just the 409 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: Big three. And then with the Lakers too, like they 410 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 4: still again we mentioned Gabe Vinci mentioned Vanderbilt being in 411 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: and out the lineup di'angelo as well for the last 412 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: few games. And so I still think those two teams 413 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: have room to grow. With Golden State. You know, I'm 414 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 4: not nostro dramas or anything. I can't tell the future, 415 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: but it seems like we're watching the end. It seems 416 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: like they've kind of plateaued. And so that's the difference 417 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: I get when I'm when you're talking about those three teams, 418 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: and you know, we'll see his championship pedigree, but remember 419 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: remember Steph had Steph would had the I believe it 420 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: was the record for most consecutive games with a three pointer, 421 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: and he ended that street. I want to say, it's 422 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: about three weeks ago he didn't get a three pointer. 423 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: He was zero four or whatever for seven eight and 424 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: then just his last game he was oh for nine 425 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: from three. You know, So he goes from Cosette, you know, 426 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: having the the longest streak of three pointers made in history, 427 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 4: to having two ophers in within the last month. Like 428 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: that just shows you where, you know, how much not 429 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: only he's struggling, but what this Golden State Warriors team 430 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: is at. So yeah, it's gonna be an uphill battle 431 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: for sure. 432 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he's gotta be. He's been asked to 433 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: carry this team and he's really been the only steady 434 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: force that they've mustered. And so I'm sure just the 435 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: nightly demands of trying to carry this team when it's 436 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: in such a funk has to be a burden on 437 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: Stephen Curry, like he hasn't faced for years and years 438 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: and years and really one of the few bright spots. 439 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: You know, we had him on the pod last week 440 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Pajemski and Trace Jackson Davis. You know, the Warriors 441 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: have been beaten up a lot in recent years about 442 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: their draft record, and I saw this stat. Our friend 443 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: Montie Poole had this stat in his piece today on 444 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: NBC Bay Area Sports dot Com that from twenty eighteen 445 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two, five drafts of the twelve players 446 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: picked by the Warriors, and those five drafts, only Kaminga 447 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: and Moody are still. 448 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: On the roster. 449 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: So there's been so much talk about how the Warriors 450 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: could have had LaMelo Ball, they could have had Tyrese Halliburton, 451 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: but they drafted James Wiseman at number two, and then 452 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: they had to hear about they drafted Moody two spots 453 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: in front of Shengoon and three spots in front of 454 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans Trey Murphy the third. So, I mean, there's 455 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: been a lot to talk here about the picks that 456 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: the Warriors have missed on or squandered, and so to 457 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: be getting so much from pajem Ski and Trace Jackson 458 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: Davis number nineteen and number fifty seven in the June 459 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: draft that has at least started the rebound on that front. 460 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: You know what, now that I think about it, I 461 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: want to push back though on something you said. If 462 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: there's stoppages and pauses in this pod, it's usually because 463 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: I'm coughing or I've run out of breath. It's not 464 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: like we're this mistake machine. I mean, man, you're just 465 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: Are you sure Ryan's the one leaking the bad stuff 466 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: about us? 467 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: Or are you trying? 468 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Are you trying to sabotage me? 469 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: I would? 470 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: I do have I do have some coughing and breathing issues. Man, 471 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I get too, I get too I just get too fired. 472 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 4: Up, right STI had to get that off his chest. Man, 473 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: it was bothering hill Star. It's okay, sty were You're 474 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: allowed to call, You're allowed to sneeze it's still a 475 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: stoppage in play. 476 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: I wish I was, man, I just I wish I 477 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a perfectionist. 478 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the and that is why I wanted 479 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: to see Ryan's face. That's why I wanted to see 480 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: his face. I want to see my. 481 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: New Year's My list of New Year's resolutions is always extensive. 482 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: But trying to fix that and stop myself from being 483 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: a perfectionist as i'm as I'm dribbling towards the age 484 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: of sixty, I don't see it happening. 485 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: Man. 486 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know, earlier in this pod you 487 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: said that you're not Nostradamus. But I gotta give I 488 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: gotta take my hat off to you because I heard 489 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: you say this on your live stream on Friday on 490 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report. But I actually I can't remember which specific 491 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: episode it was because of course, as I said, I'm 492 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: old now and my memory sucks. But there was a 493 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: recent episode. I'm pretty sure you told me you thought 494 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: Dejeantey Murray was getting traded like you've been. You've been 495 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: pretty co confident in that for like I said, in 496 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: my memory, for days, if not weeks now. So as 497 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: we get closer to the trade deadline now basically a 498 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: month away. Yeah, I mean the name. The three main 499 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: names are de Jonte, Murray, Pascal Siakam, and Zack Levine. 500 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: I still think it's going to be toughest for Chicago 501 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: to find a trade partner on Zack Levine. Maybe they 502 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: will surprise us here in the next month, but it 503 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: does seem more likely that Murray and or Siakam or 504 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: both will be dealt. And what makes you so like again, 505 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't we I don't think either one of us 506 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: has the team. I don't think we can give you 507 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: the destination on Murray. But what makes you What has 508 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: made you so confident that it's likely to happen? 509 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: I think based off of what Atlanta nee now, I 510 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: know they feel like this is something that they can 511 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: hold on to what I mean hold on to Gijonte. 512 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: They don't feel like they have to make a deal 513 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: by the deadline. They feel like they can revisit this 514 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: over the summer and see what comes about. But just 515 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: you know, executives that I've been talking to, it seems 516 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: like Atlanta is looking for another score. When you talk 517 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: to people over there with the Hawks, they'll tell you 518 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 4: about how many times, how many minutes they've been, how 519 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: many clutch minutes they've played in and haven't been able 520 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: to come through and during those times, and so they 521 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: feel like there's a necessity to have another guy that 522 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: can take the scoring load from Trey from Trey Young 523 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: because teams start to load up on him during those 524 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: clutch minutes. And so, you know, just listening to that 525 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: and just listening to how active certain teams are and 526 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: trying to see if it's real, see if Atlanta is 527 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 4: really open, And yeah, they would definitely be open, but 528 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: they're not going to do it for for for for peanuts. Now, 529 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: when you talk about the Johnte, I mean you mentioned 530 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: three of those players, Dejohonta, Pascal, and Zach Lavine. I 531 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: mean Pascal de Johnte might be a swap there. You 532 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 4: know that that might that that that definitely could happen. 533 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: Atlanta has been in the mix with for a very 534 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: long time, to the point where people thought was going 535 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: to end up with the Hawks last season. You know, 536 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: I talked to rival executive. They said it was closed. 537 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 4: It probably should have happened. There was something happened that 538 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: kind of ended that. And I don't know what that 539 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: is exactly, but you know, I wouldn't be surprised if 540 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: that deal started to resurface again. And uh, you know, 541 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: we all know that the concerns teams have for Pascal 542 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: is he going to sign an extension. Teams don't want 543 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: to trade trade away assets to get Pascal for a 544 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: rental because he's a free agent at the end of 545 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: this season. So teams understand that if they trade for him, 546 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: you know, they have to be a wink wink agreement 547 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: to you know, I know NBA teams don't do that, 548 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: but you know, there have to be some type of 549 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: wink wink agreement to to make make a team comfortable 550 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: with making that deal knowing that they'll be able to 551 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: resign them to an extension. So yeah, those three players, 552 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: those are three players we're keeping an eye on. As 553 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: of right now, it's still very much on my end, Steinn, 554 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: it's still relatively quiet on the trade front right now. 555 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: I think I expect things to pick up. 556 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, with Atlanta, I just wonder though if they're still 557 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: in that mode where Yes, in the summertime, there was 558 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: no question they were the most interested team in Siakam 559 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: but now you know, You're starting to hear rumbles that 560 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: the Hawks realize they've put themselves in quite a hole 561 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: this season. It's next season where they have to win 562 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: or they're going to forfeit a coveted draft pick to 563 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: San Antonio as part of the original de Jonte deal. 564 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: So there has been a suggestion out there that maybe 565 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: the Hawks try to make a deal that is heavy 566 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: on draft return if they eventually do find something with 567 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: de Jonte Murray, instead of a win now move, to 568 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: try to maybe get something good in this forthcoming draft 569 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: and really solidify themselves. 570 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 4: I'll say one for starn I'll say this. I'll say 571 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 4: I just want to put this out there. I hear 572 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 4: you on that that definitely could be a move that 573 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: the Hawks make. But Trey Young wants to win now now, 574 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 4: and so if the Hawks go that route or choose 575 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 4: to go that route, they would definitely have to have 576 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 4: a talk with Trey Young. He wants to win. He 577 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: wants players there that can play now. He's looking at 578 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: the last scape of the rest of his peers and 579 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: the help that they have and what they're the noise 580 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 4: that they're making, and you know, he's as competitive as 581 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: they come, and I think he'll tell you the same thing, 582 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: so that would be a little they The Hawks will 583 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 4: just have to make sure that their star players on 584 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 4: board with. 585 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: Bringing the young guys well. 586 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you bring Trey up because one 587 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: thing that was put to me last week, the way 588 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: a source described Atlanta's thinking to me was that at 589 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: this point they are building around Trey and Jalen Johnson. 590 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: Those are the two guys that they consider the core 591 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: to go forward with, and so that would seemingly put 592 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: everybody else to some degree on the marketplace. De Jontey Murray, 593 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter, Clint Capella. I actually think the most interest 594 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: that the Hawks will get for any of their perceived 595 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: available players will be Bogdan Bogdanovic. I think Bogdon, like 596 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: Boyan Bogdanovic and Detroit, absolute sniper on the wing, score 597 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: shooter and the kind of player that a lot of 598 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: teams would be looking for because everybody wants Everybody wants 599 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: wing defenders, but they want wing scoring to they want 600 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: floor spacers, three point shooters, and Bogdan Bogdanovic is one 601 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: of the league's best six men. So there's I think 602 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: the Hawks will certainly get calls on him. It'll be 603 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: interesting to see which way they go if they, as 604 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: you say, maybe have to take into account how Trey 605 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Young feels about wanting to stay competitive, or if they 606 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: make more of a trade for the future. But I'm 607 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: not gonna guarantee. I'm not guaranteeing a trade with anybody. 608 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: But I do think both Dejonte and Siakam I think 609 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: they are more likely to be traded at this point 610 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: than zach Levine. And again, the main issue there is 611 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: zach Levine's contract. It's just a very very large contract 612 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: to move. 613 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: It's time before we get out of here. 614 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 4: I just want to say at one thing off the 615 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: trade radar, but the Milwaukee Bucks are playing the Utah 616 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 4: Jazz tonight in Utah. Damian Lillard is not with the team. 617 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 4: He's taking care of a personal matter. But I am 618 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: told that he will be available for their next game 619 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 4: against the Boston Celtics on TNT Thursday. So I just 620 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 4: want to put that out there just in case people 621 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 4: are worried if this is going to be a prolonged absence. 622 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: I actually have a dame note too unexpectedly ahead that 623 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: is exclusively that's exclusively your domain I mean, it's it's 624 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: a it's a Dame adjacent note. But on my last 625 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: episode of the radio show I do in Dallas every Saturday, 626 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: the Saturday Steinline on ninety seven to one the Freak 627 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: in Dallas, which is the also an iHeart station and 628 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: the official home of Dallas Mavericks broadcast. The Blazers were 629 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: in town last week in Dallas for a baseball series, 630 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: so two games. Blazers were here for four days. Blazers 631 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: lost the first game by twenty nine. They weren't supposed 632 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: to practice. Chauncey Billups was so upset about the lopsided 633 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: nature of the defeat he changed his mind when he 634 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: woke up on Thursday and said, you know what, we 635 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: are going to practice. And I was thrilled because that 636 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: gave me the chance to attend a Trailblazers practice, which 637 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: is obviously not something that I typically get a chance 638 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: to do. And it also gave me the chance to 639 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: do a little interview with Scoot Henderson, the Blazers rookie, 640 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: And in that interview, I asked him a couple of 641 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: questions about Dame's return to Portland. So I just want 642 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: to tease that I'm not going to give away what 643 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: he said about it, but we we did a couple 644 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: questions about that, and it's are you gonna beat? January 645 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: thirty first, Yep, Damian Lillard at Portland with the Milwaukee Bucks, 646 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: the first time that Dame time will play against his 647 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: old team. I now know how excited Scoot Henderson is 648 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: about that game. Will Chris Haynes be at that game? 649 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 3: That game is in the thirty first correct? 650 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: January thirty first. 651 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 4: All right, So I have a game for TNT. I'm 652 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 4: in Golden State. Is the Sixers versus Golden State. So 653 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 4: that next morning I'm going from the Bay Area to Portland. 654 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: Stein. I was there for Dan's first game in Milwaukee. 655 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to be. 656 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 4: There for his first game back to Portland as a rod. 657 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I figured, I figured so, but I just wanted you 658 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: know I'm taking in twenty twenty four. I'm taking nothing 659 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: for granted. You're like, you're putting this show on blast. 660 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: You're calling out all my mistakes. 661 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 3: It's not like I contribute to I contribute to. 662 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: The calling out my you're calling out my podcasting style. 663 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: You've made Ryan turn the camera on. Now Ryan's watching 664 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: me closer. I feel like I'm I feel like I'm 665 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: under a Darvingham level of scrutiny right now. 666 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: The sabotage is under way. 667 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to I knew the answer had 668 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: to be yes, no way you would missed that game, 669 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: but I just I. 670 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 3: Just wanted to make sure. 671 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: I want to make sure, all right, if it's okay 672 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: with producer Ryan, I think we're going to put a 673 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: bow on this episode. I think he is given now 674 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: that that's actually good. We can actually see signal I 675 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: gave you. I still not yeah. I mean I think 676 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: we've done. I think we've done close to ninety of 677 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: these podcasts. Now I'm now, I don't. I have no 678 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: idea why his his camera has been off for the 679 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: first eighty nine of these, Like what you know, maybe 680 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't want This assignment is much better. 681 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: He's a part of Teams Star. It's much better when 682 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 3: we can see him. 683 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: And just so you know how to spell it, it's 684 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: m U S I C K. And he is the 685 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: one who carries this show. And I'm sure he's right 686 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: now regretting that he ever signed up to do this 687 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: with us, but we got him on a lifetime deal. 688 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: So there's no and there's no outs, no outs in 689 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: that contract. 690 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 4: All right, everyone, that's that's very very interesting. He has 691 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 4: a lifetime deal, but we don't how does that work. 692 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 4: How the producer has one but the talent does it well? 693 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: Because honestly, if you want to know the truth, this 694 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: show was his idea. Okay, like you, I wanted to 695 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: do a pod with you for years. It took us 696 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: three years from the time that the idea of an 697 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: iHeart podcast was broached to actually make it happen. But 698 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: the truth of it is, the true Hollywood story is 699 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Music is the one who suggested to me first, hey, 700 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: you should do a podcast with iHeart, And I said, 701 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: you know what, I love that idea. Let me see, 702 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: let me see if my dear friend Chris Haynes would 703 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: kindly join me. And it took three years for us 704 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: to make it happen. But we're almost in year two. Man, 705 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: our one year anniversary is coming up. I can't wait 706 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: to see what producer, Ryan, what special plans and celebrations, 707 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: what kind of special effects can be inserted into that 708 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: one year anniversary? 709 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: Apply to pressor Okay. 710 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: You guys have been full You guys have been full 711 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: court pressing me since we hit a chord on this thing. 712 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: I love it all right, everyone, I think I think 713 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: we've hopefully we've done enough damage for today on the 714 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: latest edition of This League Uncut. As always, if you 715 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: have not already, please follow the show, rate and review 716 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: the show wherever you get your podcasts. It's at Apple, Spotify, 717 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: any other podcast provider. And as promised, you heard the schedule. 718 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: Chris Haynes will be covering Suns at Lakers on Thursday 719 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: night on TNT and somehow Friday, amid his very busy schedule, 720 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,959 Speaker 1: on the morning after a game, we're going to figure 721 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: out how to get together for a pod and dig 722 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: into the notebook see what he's come up with, and look, Friday, 723 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: after a whole week, I'm sure there will be all 724 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: kinds of new trade discussions to be had, So stay tuned. 725 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Chris and I and producer Ryan all 726 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: back with you very very soon. 727 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 5: And now I'll do it for us. See you next time. 728 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 5: This League uncuttage an iHeartRadio Production 729 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: Circle Locka, Chris Haynes and Mark Stein